[02:14] <lightwise> hello, i have a quick question, something i havent noticed before with any distro. when i do a uptime in bash it says 0 users, is this normal?
[02:18] <holstein> lightwise: are you familiar with navigating TTY's?
[02:18] <lightwise> no
[02:18] <holstein> you get to them like this... but *dont* do anything just yet
[02:18] <holstein> or you'll get somewhere you dont know how to get back from
[02:19] <lightwise> my main concern is
[02:19] <lightwise> is this normal?
[02:19] <holstein> let me tell you how to get back to where you are...
[02:19] <holstein> control+alt+F7
[02:19] <lightwise> ive ran quite a few distros and havent seen 0 users before in an uptime
[02:19] <holstein> you can navigate to TTY1
[02:19] <holstein> login
[02:19] <holstein> and run uptime
[02:19] <holstein> then, you'll see users 1
[02:19] <lightwise> ah
[02:19] <lightwise> i appreciate your help, like i said, i was just curious something funny wasnt going on
[02:19] <holstein> control+alt+F*
[02:19] <holstein> thats how you get between them
[02:20] <holstein> and 7 is likely where you are
[02:20] <holstein> you dont *have* to test it this way though
[02:20] <holstein> you could log in as a different user you make in the GUI
[02:22] <lightwise> holstein:
[02:22] <lightwise> so this is ok then? its supposed to say 0 users?
[02:23] <holstein> lightwise: i mean, it says 0 on my termimal
[02:23] <lightwise> yes
[02:23] <holstein> then i login somewhere else, and it says 1
[02:23] <lightwise> but you arent answering my question
[02:23] <lightwise> hehe
[02:23] <lightwise> this is ok?
[02:23] <holstein> i havent looked at any documentation
[02:23] <holstein> and i wont say 'everything is fine' when i dont know for sure
[02:23] <holstein> but, it looks normal
[02:23] <lightwise> 21:23:43 up 7 days, 20:31,  0 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
[02:24] <lightwise> haha
[02:24] <holstein> right
[02:24] <holstein> thats what mine says, and has said
[02:24] <lightwise> ok
[02:24] <lightwise> im not worried then
[02:24] <lightwise> a couple others have said it also
[02:24] <holstein> i just assumed that was the way it is supposed to be
[02:24] <lightwise> like i said, i never saw that before in an uptime
[02:24] <lightwise> there was always at least 1-3 users being displayed
[02:24] <lightwise> i love lubuntu
[02:25] <holstein> yeah, its nice
[02:25] <lightwise> i believe this is my new favorite distro flavor
[02:25] <holstein> im using xubuntu right now
[02:25] <lightwise> ive ran that one too
[02:25] <holstein> but, i have lubuntu installed a couple places
[02:25] <holstein> and i use the live CD often now
[02:25] <lightwise> i think ive ran just about everything in the top 30 on distrowatch.com
[02:25] <lightwise> lol
[02:25] <holstein> its light and elegant
[02:30] <lightwise> yep
[02:34] <lightwise> thanks again man
[03:33] <Ahmuck> how do i add fonts to the system?
[03:35] <Unit193> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[04:01] <etfb> Hi. Is there a way to install fonts without fiddling with the shell?  "Standard" Ubuntu has the Font Viewer, with which I can just click Install and the font is ready to use.  Is there an equivalent in Lubuntu?
[04:02] <holstein> etfb: you can have that.. its called 'font viewer' ?
[04:03] <holstein> gnome-font-viewer - font viewer for GNOME
[04:03] <holstein> ^^ you think thats it?
[04:04] <holstein> i would select it and see if it wants to pull in a bunch of gnome stuff
[04:04] <holstein> if not, just use it :)
[04:05] <etfb> holstein: Ah, I forgot about Gnome's slack-arse "namespacing" workaround in their packages. Thanks!
[04:05] <etfb> Yes, it's only pulling in gnome-utils-common. Let's see if it works...
[04:05] <holstein> cool, thats not too bad
[04:06] <etfb> Aaaaand... nothing.  Bunch of error messages.
[04:06] <holstein> how so?
[04:06] <holstein> what errors?
[04:06] <etfb> Oh, hang on - after the messages, a usage hint.
[04:06] <holstein> it really shouldnt matter
[04:06] <holstein> lubuntu = ubuntu
[04:07] <etfb> (The messages were all along the lines of "can't find theming engine")
[04:07] <etfb> So you wouldn't expect that to matter.  Will try with a filename in the command.
[04:10] <etfb> Woot! It worked!
[04:10] <etfb> Thanks for that, holstein!
[04:11] <holstein> etfb: :)
[04:14] <etfb> Hey, any idea if LibreOffice will Just Work in Lubuntu?  I would use AbiWord but LO doesn't appear to read its document files.
[04:16] <Unit193> Save them ask ODT files, it should work. If you don't want to do that, just remember LibreOffice isn't as lightweight
[04:16] <Unit193> s/ask/as/g
[04:18] <Unit193> etfb: You may also want to install libreoffice-gtk so it fits better with the theme
[04:21] <_SuperVillain> been using lubuntu 11.10 for a few days now, love it, super fast :) great job lubuntu team
[04:22] <Unit193> Well, we like it ;)
[04:23] <Unit193> skaet: You're not identified, how do I know you're not the evil clone? ;)
[04:25] <Folklore> how can I run the same app over and over, trying to stress test a server
[04:25] <Folklore> need simple script or something to run like 1000 copies of an app
[04:27] <skaet> Unit193,  have identified now, not evil clone,  just sleepy release manager about to go zzz  :)
[04:31] <Unit193> Folklore: Server? And have you looked in the repo for a good program? Maybe one like crashme?  apt-cache search stress test   gave a few
[04:32] <Folklore> the server is my code
[04:32] <Folklore> i just need a script I can run to run the client app 100 times
[04:32] <Folklore> 10000 times
[04:32] <Folklore> to see if it handles it locally
[04:38] <Unit193> I've slacked off a bit with scripting, but here's a guide :P http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[04:38] <Folklore> thanks I probably just need a simple loop
[04:38] <Folklore> for i=1,i++
[04:38] <Folklore> ./clientapp
[04:39] <Folklore> for i=1,i=10000,i++
[04:39] <Folklore> kinda thing
[04:39] <Folklore> heheh
[04:43] <etfb> Folklore: for added stress-testing, make it ./clientapp&, so all the instances are running simultaneously...
[04:43] <Folklore> never seen the &
[04:44] <etfb> Yep. A command like foo ; bar runs 'foo' first, waits until it exits, then runs bar.  Whereas foo & bar runs foo and then, as soon as foo has loaded and started, it runs bar as well.
[04:45] <etfb> So if there's nothing after the &, it basically means "load the program and run it but go on to the next command line without waiting.
[04:46] <etfb> I'm rusty on Bash, but I think this is what you want, Folklore:
[04:46] <Folklore> etfb awesome, you rock sir
[04:46] <etfb> for (( i = 1; $i < 10; i ++ )); do MYCOMMAND& ; done
[04:47] <Folklore> found some bash script to try too
[04:47] <etfb> Ah, leave out the semi-colon after the ampersand.
[04:49] <etfb> I just tried it myself, using gnome-font-viewer since it was one program I had to hand.  Quite amusing: it sits there for a second thinking, and suddenly your screen is full of windows.
[04:49] <Folklore> LOL
[04:49] <Folklore> nice :D
[04:49] <etfb> ... Which I now have to go and close, dangit...
[04:49] <Folklore> it amazes me how fast lubuntu boots
[04:49] <Folklore> how little harddrive and cpu it uses
[04:50] <Folklore> this things a work of art, no other distro been so smooth
[04:50] <etfb> Oh, and of course gnome-font-viewer ignores both Ctrl+Q and Alt+F4... d'oh!
[04:50] <Unit193> etfb: killall is your friend :P
[04:50] <Folklore> is there a easy way to kill all the processes after via script
[04:51] <Folklore> or should I have server just send a cmd to do it
[04:51] <Folklore> yeah ill just do that via network
[04:51] <Folklore> that way can stress test send and recieve
[04:51] <Folklore> ontop of connects
[04:52] <Folklore> server uses epoll and pthreads
[04:52] <etfb> Folklore: Yes, I'm impressed with Ubuntu.  I had a couple of old desktop Win98 boxen that were useless for anything else.  Cost me $100 each at the computer fair in Canberra.  Now they're running Lubuntu and there's zero lag.
[04:52] <Folklore> I found epoll wrapper code for kqueue yesterday, rocks
[04:52] <etfb> s/Ubuntu/Lubuntu/; of course.
[04:52] <Folklore> nice :D
[04:52] <etfb> Tried Ubuntu 11.04 on them and Unity barfed.
[04:53] <Folklore> ubuntu was a resource HOG
[04:53] <etfb> Folklore: I'm old enough to remember when Windows 95 was a resource hog.
[04:53] <etfb> "16 colour screen *required*? What are they, fascists?"
[04:56] <Folklore> hehe
[04:58] <Folklore> reminds of old mac commericals for some reason
[04:58] <Folklore> when they were bragging about like 2 mbs of ram
[04:59] <Folklore> or something like that :P
[04:59] <Folklore> idk my first pc was a pentium 1
[04:59] <Folklore> was around the time AOL dialup was popular
[04:59] <genoobie> hey all
[04:59] <genoobie> I mapped a network drive using pcman
[04:59] <Folklore> heya
[05:00] <genoobie> how can I get it so that in file dialogs I can browse to that location?
[05:01] <genoobie> so if I am in an application, such as "libreoffice"
[05:01] <genoobie> I can  find that mapping...
[05:01] <genoobie> hrm.
[05:22] <Folklore> there a easy way to download a random http file via bash
[05:22] <Folklore> and save to a path
[05:23] <Folklore> ahh wget cool
[05:23] <bioterror> curl -O :D
[05:27] <Folklore> I been using dropbox to upload source files to access them via lubuntu in vbox
[05:27] <Folklore> getting of tired of typing in firefox URL bar for each file
[05:27] <Folklore> this bash script thing makes it LOT easier lol
[05:27] <Folklore> just delete old copies and grab new and compile
[05:28] <bioterror> why not just install dropbox application?
[05:28] <bioterror> or am I missing something?
[05:28] <Folklore> install it where
[05:29] <Unit193> bioterror: Yeah, you're missing that they use U1 now ;)
[05:29] <bioterror> is it better?-)
[05:29] <bioterror> I'm still living in the past and using scp and server some where in a datacenter
[05:33] <Folklore> this bash script works
[05:33] <Folklore> if I ./ in a already open terminal
[05:34] <Folklore> but trying to double click it lets me execute or in a terminal
[05:34] <Folklore> neither is workin and it shows nothin
[05:34] <Folklore> any ideas why
[05:38] <Folklore> eh doesn't matter
[07:20] <Folklore> the entire freenodes is quiet right now
[08:04] <Ahmuck> what is the mic program for lubuntu?
[08:05] <bioterror> do you mean sound recorder?
[08:07] <shiva_n> Anyone get lubuntu 12.04 working on VirtualBox? I have a problem explained at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1889114 , which I am sure has some known fix that I am not able to find
[08:08] <Ahmuck> like for skype
[08:08] <Ahmuck> i have a mic, but no sound is happening
[08:08] <bioterror> Ahmuck, open terminal and run command: alsamixer
[08:09] <Ahmuck> hrm, shows mic
[08:12] <Ahmuck> where are fontś normally installed on lubuntu?
[08:12] <bioterror> shiva_n, y u 12.04 when there's no alpha released?
[08:13] <bioterror> shiva_n, if you run development releases, you really should know what to do with bugs
[08:14] <bioterror> last time I checked, ubuntuforums is not ubuntus bug tracker site
[08:23] <Ascavasaion> Morning.  Can someone recommend me a lightweight music programme like Rhythmbox for my old AMD Duron machine?
[08:24] <Ascavasaion> Audacious does not have enough features like sorting artists, etc.
[08:26] <bioterror> I have my music categorized at the directery level
[08:26] <bioterror> like Music/Rock/Artist/Album/
[08:26] <bioterror> and I use MOC ;)
[08:26] <Unit193> !crosspost | Ascavasaion
[08:26]  * Ascavasaion Googles MOC
[08:26] <Ascavasaion> Well, excuse me.
[08:27] <shiva_n> bioterror, I dont think its a bug with Lubuntu. I was trying to do some ISO testing.
[08:27] <bioterror> even if it's a bug in ubuntu lubuntu kubuntu xubuntu edubuntu, it should be posted to launchpad
[08:29] <shiva_n> I have a feeling its got something to do with VirtualBox or something I am doing wrong (though I cant imagine what since I am doing a default install)
[08:29] <shiva_n> I need to confirm this, so I thought I will ask on here if anyone got it running on VBox
[08:30] <Unit193> bug 894768
[08:32] <bioterror> shiva_n, is that a AMD64 or i686?
[08:32] <bioterror> sorry, i386
[08:32] <bioterror> "we are dropping support from i586 cpu's, but we still keep naming the isos with i386"
[08:35] <shiva_n> i686
[08:35] <shiva_n> oops sorry that is AMD64
[08:36] <shiva_n> brain fading...need food...missus calling...away for dinner!
[08:49] <bioterror> just made 12.04 usb stick
[08:49] <bioterror> booting for the first time, takes few mins to install
[09:08] <bioterror> first boot!
[09:09] <bioterror> hahaha
[09:09] <bioterror> blinking
[09:09] <bioterror> between something and init
[09:10] <bioterror> hahaha, cant even go to tty
[09:52] <bioterror> I have to admit I have no idea what's wrong with that 12.04 installation
[09:53] <bioterror> there's no init 5 any more, and lxdm is replaced with lightdm
[10:22] <faLUCE> hi, I'm using the integrated graphics of a i5 2400 CPU. Unfortunately, the os doesn't detects it and I'm forced to use vesa at low resolution. how can I solve?
[11:27] <Ascavasaion> I have an old AMD Duron 1300MHz PC with 384Mb RAM.  I might be able to get my hands on 3 x 256 = 768Mb RAM.  I presume the old thing will run reasonably better with the jump from 384Mb to 768Mb RAM?
[11:29] <JohnDoe_71Rus> more ram better anyway
[11:30] <Ascavasaion> Thank you.  Guy just SMSed me to say that he only had 128Mb DIMMS and not the 256Mb DIMMS he claimed in the classified ad.  :(  So bleh!
[11:32] <bioterror> I have here on my table 2x 256MB DDR2 SDRAM, you can come and pick them ;)
[11:33] <Ascavasaion> bioterror: I wish hehe  But a tad far from South Africa :)
[11:33] <JohnDoe_71Rus> dimm is simple. i can't find rambus :(
[11:33] <bioterror> hahaha
[11:33] <bioterror> RD800!
[11:34] <bioterror> RDRAM800
[11:34] <JohnDoe_71Rus> yes
[11:34] <bioterror> you have Xeon?
[11:34] <JohnDoe_71Rus> P4
[11:34] <bioterror> close enough
[11:34] <bioterror> RDRAM is expensive
[11:35] <JohnDoe_71Rus> intel D850MV
[11:35] <bioterror> I have couple of "terminators" or what are those blank thingies you put into mobo when you dont use all the RDRAM slots
[11:36] <JohnDoe_71Rus> i have only 2x256Mb, not enouth
[11:36] <bioterror> I had hmm
[11:36] <bioterror> cant remember
[11:36] <bioterror> it was a dual core xeon, I think it was couple of gigs
[11:36] <bioterror> or dual socket, to be honest
[11:37] <bioterror> from wikipedia: In 2002, benchmarks pointed out that single-channel DDR400 SDRAM modules could closely match dual-channel 1066 MHz RDRAM in everyday applications
[11:37] <bioterror> ;)
[11:38] <JohnDoe_71Rus> or find motherboard with ddr memory
[11:40] <Ascavasaion> If a motherboard takes a certain type of processor, but only speeds of "500 to 1GHz or higher", is there no way to get a 2.2Ghz processor to run in it?  I know it is not, but I can only hope hehe
[11:40] <bioterror> it's about the sockets
[11:41] <JohnDoe_71Rus> Ascavasaion: Hope springs eternal
[11:41]  * Ascavasaion chuckles.
[11:42] <bioterror> my mother board uses AM3+ socket
[11:42] <bioterror> and I can use almost any AM3+ CPU
[11:42] <bioterror> I can upgrade my Athlon X2 to Phenom II X6 ;)
[11:45] <bioterror> JohnDoe_71Rus, http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=RDRAM&_sacat=0 ;)
[11:45] <JohnDoe_71Rus> bioterror: i know
[11:46] <JohnDoe_71Rus> but, bay hardware by post...
[11:48] <bioterror> I just got email from ebay that my percel is mailed ;)
[11:50] <JohnDoe_71Rus> bioterror: and i need shipping russia
[11:50] <bioterror> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-2GB-4X512MB-PC800-45-ECC-Rambus-RDRAM-Memory-/260859640109 here's world wide
[11:51] <bioterror> chinaman has lots of RDRAM PC800
[11:53] <JohnDoe_71Rus> bioterror: i think about
[11:54] <Ascavasaion> Okay, thank you all.  Bye.
[12:30] <fasos> hi
[12:30] <bioterror> howdy
[14:13] <Ascavasaion> HOw do I play mp3s through lubuntu?
[17:08] <skaet> heya,  just wanted to let you know lubuntu alpha 1 is released now.
[18:28] <Cipi> Does anyone know how to boot lubuntu and install it from USB stick?
[18:29] <Cipi> Can be installed with UNetBootin - ubuntu ?
[18:29] <Cipi> Anyone know this?
[18:32] <michaelrawson> Cipi: Yeah, you can do it.
[18:32] <michaelrawson> Format the USB and make a partition over the lot.
[18:32] <michaelrawson> (unless you have something on there, in which case, don't)
[18:32] <michaelrawson> then download the lubuntu ISO
[18:33] <michaelrawson> then use the "ISO" option of unetbootin, select the ISO, and the USB, and away you go.
[18:33] <Cipi> Yep, Thanks alot man.
[18:33] <Cipi> Another question. Does lubuntu have ubuntu software center and Additional drivers manager ?
[18:43] <Cipi> Thanks. I will give lubuntu a try.
[20:05] <Mr_EE1> hello
[20:06] <Mr_EE1> can anyone help me with compiz how to install it, please its my first time in ubuntu and compiz
[20:22] <eimis> hi, can i ask for help here directly?
[20:24] <eimis> hello?
[20:24] <bioterror> sure
[20:24] <bioterror> !ask | eimis
[20:26] <eimis> I have hp pavilion dv7-6153ea laptop, and screen brightness is always at 100% with lubuntu. Win7 is ok. I googled for an answer but without luck. Could you help me?
[20:28] <bioterror> sorry, no idea what could be wrong
[20:28] <bioterror> can you adjust brightness?
[20:28] <eimis> no,that is the problem.
[20:29] <eimis> f2 and f3 should do that but they don't
[20:29] <bioterror> remember to press fn button too?
[20:30] <eimis> that doesn't help
[20:44] <shiva_n> bioterror greetings. did you get a chance to try lubuntu precise on virtualbox vm?