| LancsMike | ok....sorry, I have another question..... | 00:06 |
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| LancsMike | On OpenShot, how do you add bullet points to animate into the pictures you are setting up in the timeline? | 00:06 |
| LancsMike | Thanks all and good night!! | 00:22 |
| AlanBell | ●◎○ | 00:24 |
| AlanBell | bullets | 00:24 |
| === PaulW2U is now known as G4MBY | ||
| knightwise | Good morning everyone | 06:37 |
| sagaci | hi knightwise | 07:00 |
| knightwise | how are you today | 07:07 |
| awilkins | Bloke here on train with about 5,000 lines of C# in one file >_< | 08:09 |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: as long as it's not in one function... | 08:09 |
| awilkins | No, not that bad. | 08:11 |
| awilkins | Can't really read it discretely across the aisle. He has a Thinkpad, that engenders a certain degree of respect. | 08:12 |
| awilkins | We're going Dell for our workstation class laptops, apparently. | 08:12 |
| sagaci | just awkwardly cough *cough* I use patent-encumbered Mono *cough* | 08:13 |
| awilkins | I like C# as a language, not sure how I feel about the patent thing. | 08:14 |
| awilkins | On the one hand I think it's really unlikely that MS will brave the wrath of the EU by suing someone for using Mono. | 08:15 |
| awilkins | On the other, I'm mostly a Java coder these days... | 08:16 |
| AlanBell | morning all o/ | 08:21 |
| awilkins | \o | 08:21 |
| * AlanBell dabbles in all languages, but not c# so far, never come across it | 08:22 | |
| AlanBell | python, php, java, javascript normally | 08:23 |
| MartijnVdS | Perl for work, Python at home. Java when I try my hand at Android apps. | 08:24 |
| MartijnVdS | And C# when Banshee breaks | 08:24 |
| MartijnVdS | oh and javascript at work | 08:25 |
| AlanBell | I use kill -9 when banshee breaks | 08:25 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: sure, but my banshee breaks in interesting ways | 08:26 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: it doesn't recognise my phone, for example | 08:26 |
| MartijnVdS | so I added some logging | 08:26 |
| awilkins | Banshee usually kills itself.. | 08:26 |
| MartijnVdS | and I found out it doesn't even try | 08:26 |
| awilkins | Not sure about all the new bits of C# sine 2.0 | 08:30 |
| MartijnVdS | I don't know anything about C# other than "If I type this and recompile, new stuff gets logged" | 08:31 |
| MartijnVdS | copy/paste trickery | 08:32 |
| AlanBell | some languages like to sprinkle semicolons everywhere, others don't. | 08:36 |
| AlanBell | that is all you need to know about programming | 08:36 |
| daubers | Morning | 08:50 |
| danfish | morning | 08:51 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: also, {} vs spaces | 08:51 |
| AlanBell | TheOpenSourcerer: christmas tree chap just phoned me back to confirm | 08:55 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Thanks - I booked too the other day. | 08:55 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Same place and time | 08:55 |
| MooDoo | moring all | 08:58 |
| MartijnVdS | Mooring, MooDoo | 09:03 |
| MooDoo | hello MartijnVdS | 09:04 |
| DJones | Morning all | 09:13 |
| czajkowski | morning | 09:16 |
| * daubers needs stronger coffee | 09:21 | |
| daubers | and the postman to bring his components he ordered | 09:22 |
| daubers | and a book on grammar | 09:22 |
| AlanBell | eats shoots and leaves | 09:23 |
| * AlanBell wonders if there is an excuse to go to London this afternoon | 09:23 | |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: London Eye? | 09:24 |
| AlanBell | something more businesslike :) | 09:24 |
| JamesTait | I can't believe it's that time already, but Happy December everyone! :) | 09:33 |
| bigcalm | Morning peeps | 09:34 |
| JamesTait | bigcalm: o/ | 09:35 |
| oimon | http://www.t3.com/news/apple-employee-fired-for-facebook-rant | 09:39 |
| DJones | oimon: I saw that a few days ago, apparently Apple employees aren't allowed to say anything detrimental about Apple | 09:48 |
| oimon | it's funny, i'm re-reading 1984 atm .. | 09:48 |
| oimon | it was only a boy cursing his phone | 09:48 |
| MooDoo | oimon: detremental to the companies image....personally i would of decked the person who grassed | 09:54 |
| popey | bah | 09:54 |
| popey | lug.org.uk is down | 09:54 |
| MooDoo | you broke it popey ? | 09:54 |
| popey | no | 09:54 |
| JamesTait | jnick_tait: Hi! o/ | 10:10 |
| jnick_tait | JamesTait: hello | 10:11 |
| daubers | AlanBell: I'm tempted to goto the science museum for the robot exhibition | 10:11 |
| JamesTait | Nice to see a fellow Tait around. :) | 10:13 |
| gord | if only we had an Alan Tait | 10:15 |
| oimon | or tait modern | 10:15 |
| daubers | gord: I thought we'd already exceeded our Alan Quota | 10:15 |
| AlanBell | there is no quota | 10:15 |
| JamesTait | My dad's middle name is Alan. | 10:16 |
| gord | we have enough for them to spoil any and all broths | 10:16 |
| JamesTait | Not quite the same. | 10:16 |
| MooDoo | gord: we also need a titfur | 10:16 |
| jnick_tait | JamesTait: the cool thing is that my first name is James too | 10:17 |
| MooDoo | arrrrrrrrrrrr two james taits? | 10:17 |
| daubers | AlanBell: Because all Alans are one? | 10:17 |
| JamesTait | jnick_tait: Let the world cower in fear. :) | 10:17 |
| jnick_tait | :-) | 10:17 |
| gord | oh right | 10:31 |
| gord | happy mailman day! | 10:31 |
| MooDoo | oh no :( | 10:32 |
| MooDoo | lol | 10:32 |
| dogmatic69 | my ubuntu10.10 is getting real slow :( after opening a terminal window it takes about 30 seconds before the prompt shows | 10:38 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: what does "top" say? is something running at 100% CPU? | 10:38 |
| dogmatic69 | i just rebooted and load average is 10 | 10:39 |
| dogmatic69 | chrome is 50% | 10:39 |
| MartijnVdS | try latencytop | 10:40 |
| j0nr | I have given up on chrome, seems to slow everything down | 10:41 |
| MartijnVdS | j0nr: at least it's not firefox | 10:41 |
| dogmatic69 | MartijnVdS: installed that, what am i looking for? | 10:41 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: the top of the screen -- apps doing massive amounts of i/o | 10:42 |
| j0nr | MartijnVdS: Well running Firefox things don't seem to slow down | 10:42 |
| dogmatic69 | fsync 750ms | 10:42 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: yes that's the call.. but it should be telling you which process is doing that | 10:42 |
| AlanBell | can anyone think of a reason why postgres might fail to support TLS when connected to from a particular IP address? | 10:43 |
| dogmatic69 | if i click fsync, it has jbd2_log_wait_commit ext4_sync_file vfs_fsync_range etc | 10:43 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: pg_hba.conf not having "ssl" in the entry for that host? | 10:43 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: _click_?> | 10:43 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: latencytop isn't a gui app | 10:43 |
| dogmatic69 | :O | 10:43 |
| dogmatic69 | MartijnVdS: sudo apt-get install latencytop, then ran 'latencytop' and it complained about sudo, so 'sudo latencytop' which opened up a little window | 10:44 |
| MooDoo | AlanBell: does the ip in the cert match the hostname of the calling server? | 10:45 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: strange | 10:45 |
| * MartijnVdS tries | 10:45 | |
| MooDoo | AlanBell: just read that from the net... | 10:45 |
| AlanBell | MooDoo: no certs, anonymous TLS | 10:45 |
| dogmatic69 | MartijnVdS: it does not look like the screenie here http://www.latencytop.org/ | 10:45 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: hey it's graphical now | 10:46 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: Check the "targets" list | 10:46 |
| dogmatic69 | hehe | 10:46 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: which program is at the top? | 10:46 |
| dogmatic69 | global | 10:46 |
| dogmatic69 | then, sendmail | 10:46 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: sure, that's always on top | 10:46 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: I guess you have a large sendmail queue? | 10:46 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: try "mailq" | 10:46 |
| dogmatic69 | 8k | 10:47 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: 8k? as in 8kb or 8000 mails? | 10:47 |
| dogmatic69 | latter | 10:47 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: that's waht causing your slowness | 10:47 |
| MartijnVdS | sendmail tries to read/send all those files | 10:47 |
| MartijnVdS | check /var/log/mail.log | 10:47 |
| dogmatic69 | bah | 10:48 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: you may want to fix that :) | 10:48 |
| dogmatic69 | i think so | 10:48 |
| dogmatic69 | checking the log now | 10:48 |
| AlanBell | let me rephrase my question because I am full of fail /o\ | 10:48 |
| AlanBell | can anyone think of a reason why post*fix* might fail to support TLS when connected to from a particular IP address? | 10:49 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: because it has a blacklist entry in its configuration? | 10:49 |
| dogmatic69 | MartijnVdS: log is full of Dec 1 10:48:53 ultra-magnus sm-mta[1772]: pASB0MG7026736: to=root, delay=2+23:29:09, xdelay=00:00:00, ... | 10:49 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: "something" is sending an email | 10:49 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: probably cron jobs | 10:49 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: you need to configure (or remove) sendmail, or install a replacement and configure that properly (nullmailer, for example) | 10:50 |
| MartijnVdS | then the mails will end up in YOUR mailbox and you can see what's wrong | 10:50 |
| dogmatic69 | MartijnVdS: my + sudo crontab is empty | 10:51 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: sure, but /etc/cron.d/ isn't (or /etc/cron.daily, etc.) | 10:51 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: you might be able to look at the email content in /var/spool/ somewhere | 10:51 |
| dogmatic69 | var/spool/mail is empty | 10:52 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: that's delivered mail | 10:52 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: I don't know where sendmail stores those files, please look around in /var a bit :) | 10:53 |
| dogmatic69 | ah, it would be empty... hence the problem :D | 10:53 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: you might be able to fix it by doing dpkg-reconfigure sendmail | 10:53 |
| dogmatic69 | var/spool/mqueue | 10:54 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: and then selecting "Local delivery only" | 10:54 |
| dogmatic69 | sudo dpkg-reconfigure sendmail- | 10:55 |
| dogmatic69 | sendmail-base sendmail-bin sendmail-cf | 10:55 |
| dogmatic69 | which one? | 10:55 |
| MooDoo | omg i'm so sick of support right now :D lol | 11:06 |
| dogmatic69 | MartijnVdS: not figured out the config yet, but its much better now | 11:06 |
| popey | golly. john lewis sell chromebooks now http://www.johnlewis.com/Chromebooks/Chromebooks/Chromebooks/SubCategory.aspx | 11:22 |
| MooDoo | oooo yeah, 299 for the basic one :) | 11:23 |
| oimon | popey: i didn't have the same experience as you with mint - i get ubuntu security updates i think | 11:24 |
| gord | heh, i like that "Login" is one of the things they eliminated to increase how fast you "get to the web" | 11:24 |
| oimon | haven't heard about chrome for a while | 11:25 |
| davmor2 | morning all | 11:26 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 11:26 |
| popey | oimon: you do get them, but mint recommend you dont install them | 11:33 |
| DJones | Definition of a hard drive according to the john lewis website "Built in memory used for storing your audio and video files etc" | 11:34 |
| DJones | I guess its right in its simplest form | 11:34 |
| * AlanBell slaps CISCO firewalls very very hard | 11:40 | |
| DJones | Interesting recruitment method http://www.canyoucrackit.co.uk/ | 11:40 |
| DJones | Linked from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15968878 | 11:41 |
| popey | thats one for ali1234 & AlanBell ☺ | 11:41 |
| * davmor2 lends AlanBell one of his WORK YOU *ADD EXPLETIVE* Mallets if you're going to do a job don't do it half hearted hit it with this :) | 11:41 | |
| AlanBell | it intercepts and interfers with SMTP traffic | 11:42 |
| iclebyte | anyone here good with the suits? | 11:42 |
| ali1234 | popey: i think i broke the canonical recruitment page :/ | 11:42 |
| AlanBell | strips out STARTTLS from the server response amongst other stuff | 11:42 |
| popey | heh | 11:43 |
| ali1234 | popey: precisely | 11:43 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: who needs privacy! | 11:43 |
| AlanBell | we just spent 2 hours tracing this thing with telnet to port 25 | 11:45 |
| kvarley | Are there any sites you know of where I can find out how to build a compact, low power, fanless pc? I saw on youtube a guy made one from an Intel Desktop Board with an atom processor to run Ubuntu on was all | 11:51 |
| MartijnVdS | kvarley: there aren't many sites that teach you that one specific thing | 11:51 |
| MartijnVdS | it's just "building a PC" while buying the least noisy parts :) | 11:51 |
| occupy64k | I'm using a mini-itx board which is fanless | 11:51 |
| oimon | iclebyte: what's your question? | 11:53 |
| kvarley | occupy64k: What CPU and case do you have? | 11:53 |
| occupy64k | It's an atom CPU. The motherboard is Intel D525MW | 11:54 |
| occupy64k | And I'm running off of a USB thumb drive, so no hard disk | 11:54 |
| popey | kvarley: why do you want to build one, why not just buy one? | 11:54 |
| occupy64k | The case is, well, "home made" | 11:55 |
| MartijnVdS | Welded sheets of iron? | 11:55 |
| kvarley | popey: The few ones I looked at were the cost of a gaming rig for an eighth of the power | 11:55 |
| occupy64k | Almost | 11:55 |
| popey | kvarley: whats it going to be used for? | 11:56 |
| kvarley | popey: Web browsing / Instant Messaging / Playing video | 11:56 |
| kvarley | I realise that if I want passively cooled I will likely have to sacrifice the video playing part | 11:56 |
| MartijnVdS | nah | 11:57 |
| MartijnVdS | recent CPUs (and GPUs) come with built-in H.264 decoders | 11:57 |
| MartijnVdS | so even 1080p should be possible | 11:57 |
| kvarley | =] | 11:58 |
| popey | kvarley: get a revo? | 11:58 |
| popey | revos do have fans but they generally only kick in when the GPU is in heavy use | 11:58 |
| popey | (I have two on my desk here, they're by no means noisy | 11:58 |
| kvarley | popey: But they do have fans? | 11:59 |
| popey | it has a fan on the gpu | 11:59 |
| popey | a tiny one | 11:59 |
| kvarley | hhmm | 11:59 |
| kvarley | You're running Ubuntu on them? | 11:59 |
| popey | http://images.techtree.com/ttimages/story/105218_inside.jpg | 11:59 |
| popey | yes | 11:59 |
| popey | my mum has one as her desktop pc | 12:00 |
| popey | she basically does email, facebook, youtube | 12:00 |
| kvarley | Ah yes, I recall mumbuntu from the uupc =] | 12:00 |
| bigcalm | I have a revo on my desk that acts as my web dev server, fan only kicks in when it needs to do heavy number crunching | 12:01 |
| kvarley | popey & bigcalm: What model of revo do you have? | 12:02 |
| bigcalm | Bother, 128gb ssd are still expensive | 12:02 |
| bigcalm | r3600 | 12:02 |
| popey | sa,e | 12:02 |
| popey | *same | 12:02 |
| popey | 3 of them | 12:02 |
| kvarley | popey & bigcalm: Thanks | 12:02 |
| kvarley | popey: They're good then? ;) | 12:02 |
| popey | heh | 12:02 |
| popey | I have SSD's in two of them | 12:02 |
| awilkins | Joy, my router has crashed | 12:03 |
| popey | and upped to 4GB RAM | 12:03 |
| bigcalm | I upgraded to 4gb ram but currently it has a 32bit 10.04.3 on it :( | 12:03 |
| bigcalm | Will rectify that with 12.04 next year | 12:03 |
| bigcalm | I wonder how it will cope with unity | 12:04 |
| andylockran | guys, is there a command to cat the 27th line of our a file? | 12:04 |
| kvarley | popey & bigcalm: Is the esata port on the back esatap or just esata? (Does it provide power to the hdd or not?) | 12:04 |
| bigcalm | Pass | 12:04 |
| bigcalm | You'll have to look it up | 12:04 |
| popey | dunno | 12:04 |
| popey | however I dont think the newer revo has esata at all | 12:05 |
| bigcalm | Aye, our revos are the old versions that I don't think are available any more | 12:05 |
| kvarley | I'll look at various nettops I guess, thanks for the help | 12:06 |
| bigcalm | Welcome | 12:06 |
| kvarley | I want a more powerful companion to my RaspberryPi when I get it | 12:06 |
| AlanBell | life is a minestrone, and so is my lunch | 12:13 |
| oimon | anyone else had update-apt-xapi making ubuntu 11.10 vista-like? | 12:13 |
| oimon | i terms of unusable performance | 12:14 |
| brobostigon | oimon, i had that problem, many years ago, didnt figure out why, not seen it recently. | 12:16 |
| * davmor2 saw the mine part of AlanBell's last message and thought Oh God even AlanBell is talking about life and MineCraft now :) | 12:17 | |
| oimon | brobostigon: which distro you runnign right now? | 12:18 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: there's only one minecraft....ONE MINECRAFT | 12:18 |
| brobostigon | oimon, debian sid + experimental. | 12:19 |
| oimon | DE? | 12:19 |
| brobostigon | oimon, plain gnome3 with gnome-shell. | 12:19 |
| oimon | + gnome shell extensions? | 12:20 |
| brobostigon | no. | 12:20 |
| oimon | have you tried them? | 12:21 |
| brobostigon | no. | 12:21 |
| brobostigon | oimon, are you refferring to mint extensions? | 12:21 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: You say that but there is MineCraft Mobile too :P | 12:21 |
| brobostigon | mints* | 12:21 |
| oimon | yes, i think so, however they are installable in deb/ubuntu | 12:22 |
| oimon | (of course) | 12:22 |
| brobostigon | oimon, in which case, no, i havent tried them, and there is dicussion about packaging them into debian. | 12:22 |
| oimon | they make gnome shell usable :) | 12:23 |
| brobostigon | oimon, i am happy, how gnoome-shell is now, for the most part, there are sopme niggly issues, but nothing hugely major, for me. | 12:23 |
| oimon | i cannot get over the number of clicks required to do anything in the default shell# | 12:24 |
| brobostigon | oimon, i do very little clicking, i do most stuff from my keyboard. | 12:25 |
| popey | +1 | 12:25 |
| popey | keyboard > mouse | 12:25 |
| davmor2 | just me still using the mouse then | 12:26 |
| oimon | davmor2: me too | 12:26 |
| davmor2 | oimon: that one reason I prefer Unity over gnomeshell all the apps down the side that I need 1 click | 12:27 |
| oimon | mouse shuffle then click | 12:27 |
| kvarley | popey & bigcalm: The revo looks remarkably good. Quiet, powerful, loads of useful ports and stuff. = | 12:35 |
| gord | i should get another revo, its been a few months since i have bought one | 12:35 |
| kvarley | gord: Haha, addicted to buying revos? | 12:36 |
| monsterwizard | is there a site where Ican do excerices involving linux commands | 12:36 |
| bigcalm | Still pondering replacing my parents' Viglen MPC-L with a Revo. Maybe get myself a newer one | 12:36 |
| oimon | brobostigon: the window list extension is a bit ugly looking, hopefully that can be tarted up. oh look, there's update-apt-xapian-index eating my machine http://i.imgur.com/omnGn.png | 12:43 |
| brobostigon | oimon, ah, let me look. i am familier with what update-apt-xapian can do. :) | 12:47 |
| oimon | i think it happens because i was dual booting | 12:47 |
| oimon | when i boot back into ubuntu it shags it for the first 15 mins | 12:48 |
| smittix | Afternoon all | 12:48 |
| oimon | because i hadn't booted into 11.10 for a while | 12:48 |
| oimon | need to renice it lower i guess | 12:48 |
| oimon | stuff that is set to run ASAP after boot like that is not friendly to the user, and rather windows-ish | 12:50 |
| popey | pretty sure update manager doesnt run right after boot | 12:52 |
| popey | it has a built in delay of some minutes, so it doesn't punch you in the face after boot | 12:52 |
| ging | mine used to pop up at the exact same time each day, then it stopped doing that, now it's random | 12:56 |
| oimon | it's seizing up a system that used to be OK with earlier releases. what is it actually doing? | 12:58 |
| DJones | Does anybody use the lovefilm service? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/12/01/lovefilm_dumps_flash/ Moving to MS Silverlight | 13:00 |
| dogmatic69 | silverlight was dropped by MS | 13:03 |
| dogmatic69 | sure ive read something like thtat | 13:03 |
| gord | i use it, but via the ps3 | 13:03 |
| DJones | dogmatic69: I've seen reports of rumours its going to be dropped, don't think its been confirmed | 13:03 |
| DJones | dogmatic69: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/10/microsoft_killing_silverlight_rumours/ | 13:04 |
| chrisjrob | they have confirmed that they are concentrating on HTML5 | 13:04 |
| chrisjrob | which is tantamount to the same thing | 13:04 |
| chrisjrob | would have thought silverlight was a very peculiar decision | 13:04 |
| chrisjrob | for love film | 13:04 |
| gord | microsoft is a biiiiiiiiig company, the left hand saying they are concentrating on HTML5 does not mean that the right hand is also doing that | 13:05 |
| * chrisjrob nods | 13:06 | |
| chrisjrob | true | 13:06 |
| chrisjrob | but their default browser will probably not support it | 13:08 |
| chrisjrob | metro IE | 13:08 |
| chrisjrob | tbh it is almost immaterial whether they kill it or not - HTML5 will win by being better, it'll just take time | 13:09 |
| gordonjcp | anyone got any pointers on tracking down suspend problems in 11.10? | 13:09 |
| gord | i don't think html5 is in a state where it is "better", however, it is more accessible, coming by default in modern browsers and phones | 13:10 |
| chrisjrob | and doesn't need plugins | 13:10 |
| gord | especially audio in html5, which is damn near awful | 13:10 |
| chrisjrob | i have tried implementing video in HTML5 and it's a bit basic and not universally supported | 13:11 |
| davmor2 | gord: I think the advantage comes from the fact that you don't have to refactor all of you code to work on different platforms it just magically works | 13:11 |
| gord | davmor2, with html5? ehhhh, you'll always need (if browser == "browser_that_thinks_its_special) { do_different_thing() }) | 13:12 |
| chrisjrob | less so these days | 13:12 |
| chrisjrob | in fact quite surprisingly good in IE these days | 13:13 |
| davmor2 | gord: yeah but it's a minor code change rather than a complete code rewrite to work with flash or silverlight or ...... | 13:13 |
| gord | Dart might make that kind of stuff less annoying, though honestly no one is going to use Dart | 13:13 |
| gord | davmor2, remind me, next thurs at the lighthouse right? | 13:15 |
| bigcalm | Yeah, during my week off! | 13:19 |
| directhex | silverlight is on its deathbed | 13:21 |
| directhex | but the big studios want moar DRMs | 13:21 |
| directhex | just you wait for DRM-enabled <video> tags. that's what MS will mean when they keep saying "native html5" | 13:22 |
| directhex | IE-only DRM'd <video> | 13:22 |
| daubers | Anyone else getting suckered into the code breaking thing that went up today? | 13:32 |
| gord | hrm? | 13:33 |
| awilkins | I looked and mused about some of the odd sequences | 13:33 |
| awilkins | GCHQ are recruiting with games. | 13:33 |
| awilkins | They could at least have posted the code as text. Unless it's a red herring and the answer is steganographically hidden in the PNG | 13:34 |
| oimon | https://twitter.com/#!/BBCClick/status/142209117904322560 << response to livefilm announcement? | 13:34 |
| AlanBell | awilkins: I was wondering about that, seems unneccessarily hard | 13:35 |
| AlanBell | awilkins: they could have put it as text in the source or something | 13:35 |
| oimon | daubers: link? | 13:36 |
| daubers | http://www.canyoucrackit.co.uk/ | 13:36 |
| awilkins | Real crypto is virtually impossible to crack, not sure who this kind of crossword puzzle stuff recruits these days. | 13:36 |
| awilkins | But I suppose they need a mix. | 13:37 |
| awilkins | "Overspecialize and you breed in weakness. It's slow death." | 13:37 |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: real crypto is surprisingly easy to crack if you know who has the key | 13:37 |
| * MartijnVdS gets his torture machines | 13:37 | |
| oimon | http://www.canyoucrackit.co.uk/15b436de1f9107f3778aad525e5d0b20.js | 13:40 |
| awilkins | No! Not the X-Factor Tour Album! | 13:41 |
| awilkins | Now it looks more interesting. | 13:43 |
| davmor2 | gord: possibly I'm looking to see who else is coming at the moment might just be you and me in which case I might postpone till January | 13:43 |
| gord | davmor2, cool cool, just let me know | 13:44 |
| DJones | daubers: the canyoucrackit test has been up since the beginning of November according to bbc website | 13:44 |
| DJones | Just not been publiscised | 13:44 |
| danfish | 42 <- there, that's that crypto thing solved | 13:47 |
| chrisjrob | danfish: ah, but what was the question? | 13:47 |
| smittix | Don't suppose anyone knows a plugin for wordpress that will auto share a new post on wordpress? | 13:48 |
| danfish | chrisjrob: could tell, have to kill you blah blah blah - I'm with GCHQ now :P | 13:48 |
| chrisjrob | :( | 13:49 |
| * chrisjrob orders a new danfish to be built | 13:49 | |
| czajkowski | danfish: when we going rugby watching | 13:50 |
| AlanBell | oimon: how did you get to that? | 13:50 |
| danfish | chrisjrob: thankfully they broke the mould after me :) | 13:50 |
| danfish | czajkowski: def in the new year - fancy going to quins? | 13:50 |
| MooDoo | woohoo quins :D | 13:51 |
| czajkowski | danfish: yup | 13:51 |
| czajkowski | definately | 13:51 |
| MooDoo | my fave team :D | 13:51 |
| czajkowski | as long as the weekend of FOSDEM is out | 13:51 |
| czajkowski | we should start to plan this | 13:51 |
| oimon | AlanBell: i'd like to give you a fancy answer..but it's google | 13:51 |
| danfish | which weekend is FOSDEM? | 13:52 |
| directhex | 5th i think | 13:52 |
| czajkowski | smittix: what do you mean autoshare | 13:52 |
| directhex | 4th/5th | 13:52 |
| czajkowski | aye | 13:52 |
| oimon | AlanBell: site: command | 13:52 |
| directhex | i'll be there, as always | 13:52 |
| directhex | i hope my talk proposal is accepted | 13:52 |
| czajkowski | can it have less cats please | 13:52 |
| AlanBell | oimon: well that one looks like a very straightforward challenge | 13:53 |
| danfish | czajkowski: I know quins need to rearrange their schedule a bit - should be finalised next week apparently | 13:54 |
| AlanBell | not easy, but straightforward | 13:54 |
| AlanBell | implement the function to the spec provided and it will spit out the answer | 13:54 |
| czajkowski | danfish: cool then we should create an event and folks can buy tickets :) | 13:55 |
| czajkowski | and the beer and nibbles aftterwards | 13:55 |
| czajkowski | danfish: do not have a conference clashing and get a day pass! | 13:55 |
| oimon | AlanBell: maybe unrelated | 13:56 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski: danfish damn you two that's my fave team....i might have to come to that one | 13:56 |
| danfish | czajkowski: definitely - I don't even have to research a pub - the Turk's Head is the bees knees | 13:57 |
| danfish | MooDoo: you should do | 13:57 |
| MooDoo | danfish: yeah as it's quins, i'm going to have to try for this one. | 13:58 |
| AlanBell | oimon: well this is stage 2 of the puzzle, solving it presumably tells you where stage 3 is | 13:58 |
| czajkowski | danfish: coool well once we have a date set lets get this underway | 14:00 |
| MooDoo | :D | 14:01 |
| danfish | czajkowski: no probs. | 14:02 |
| czajkowski | yay | 14:02 |
| danfish | will prob need a 'pick me up' in Jan/Feb - cruel months | 14:03 |
| MooDoo | danfish: how come? if you don't mind me asking | 14:04 |
| danfish | MooDoo: post-xmas, always dark going to and coming from work. | 14:04 |
| awilkins | Can't move the volume slider with keyboard either, AlanBell | 14:04 |
| AlanBell | awilkins: yeah, indeed | 14:05 |
| AlanBell | unity is a funny mix of only really working with a keyboard, and only really working with a mouse | 14:06 |
| MooDoo | danfish: ah that old chestnut | 14:06 |
| MooDoo | i think we should have a pre christmas ubuntu uk hangout on google + :) | 14:06 |
| AlanBell | MooDoo: we should! | 14:07 |
| awilkins | Unity 2D is a funny mix of being 2D, but needing OpenGL compositing or it looks like ass. | 14:07 |
| oimon | is there still a 10 person limit on hangout? | 14:07 |
| gordonjcp | urgh | 14:07 |
| awilkins | Little bits of redraw corruption everywhere | 14:07 |
| gordonjcp | that middle-click bug in Ubuntu's firefox package is annoying as hell | 14:07 |
| gordonjcp | especially since updates obliterate locally-changed files | 14:08 |
| MooDoo | ok everyone, any suggestions for the date of a pre christmas google+ hangout :D | 14:08 |
| oimon | wondering whether to use ubuntu + add bits from mint + remove other bits , or use mint and add bits from ubuntu | 14:08 |
| awilkins | Switched to Nouveau / 2D because nvidia / Unity was hard-crashing my machine too much. | 14:08 |
| AlanBell | gordonjcp: middle click closes tabs for me, what did you want it to do? | 14:08 |
| oimon | check the capacitors on the video card awilkins | 14:08 |
| gordonjcp | AlanBell: paste URL into an open tab | 14:09 |
| oimon | had that problem and the caps had spewed up some froth | 14:09 |
| gordonjcp | ie. select URL in another window, middle click on a firefox window and it opens the URL | 14:09 |
| gordonjcp | AlanBell: it has been deliberately spragged in Ubuntu | 14:09 |
| AlanBell | gordonjcp: middle click in the url bar pastes the url for me | 14:09 |
| gordonjcp | not in the URL bar, in the content pane of the window | 14:09 |
| awilkins | No name : I'll have a peek, but it's rock steady on Windows / games. | 14:10 |
| AlanBell | err, but that does the scrolly thing | 14:10 |
| gordonjcp | much easier since you don't have to clear the URL bar without accidentally selecting, or creating a new tab | 14:10 |
| gordonjcp | AlanBell: not that I've noticed... | 14:10 |
| AlanBell | for me middle clicking a firefox window with scrollbars makes a circle appear with a dot in it and up and down arrows, I can then move the mouse relative to the circle to control the scroll speed | 14:11 |
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| AlanBell | gordonjcp: might be because I have autoscrolling selected in the advanced preferences | 14:13 |
| gord | i enable auto-scroll because middle click (used to at least) open a new empty tab | 14:16 |
| oimon | brobostigon: ah, i discovered that update-apt-xapian-index has a -u switch | 14:21 |
| oimon | -u incremental update, reindexing only those packages whose version has changed since the last run | 14:21 |
| MartijnVdS | WTF is xapian? | 14:22 |
| gord | considering reducing the noise my phone makes when i have a meeting to go to to 30 seconds and replacing the noise with the countdown music... | 14:22 |
| oimon | a gremlin that lives inside your machine and jumps on the CPU and hard drive | 14:22 |
| davmor2 | MartijnVdS: iirc it is the DB for package searching in most of the package managers | 14:23 |
| funkyHat | MartijnVdS: a library/thing for doing indexed searching of stuff | 14:23 |
| daubers | gord: But get the people from IT crowd doing t rather than the real music! | 14:23 |
| gord | i like that episode :) | 14:24 |
| davmor2 | MartijnVdS: http://xapian.org/ | 14:25 |
| MartijnVdS | ah so it's apt showing its internals on the outside | 14:25 |
| MartijnVdS | ewww :) | 14:25 |
| oimon | once a week it rebuilds the index, but wondering if really necessary as it kills the machine. so why not just update the index | 14:26 |
| oimon | the machine has ubuntu+xubuntu+kubuntu+lubuntu+gnome shell on it | 14:26 |
| MartijnVdS | so lots of installed packages | 14:27 |
| oimon | a few :$ | 14:27 |
| funkyHat | MartijnVdS: no, it's an optional extra component that significantly speeds up searching (and possibly also dependency resolution, but don't quote me on that, I'm basically just going with what's potentially possible) | 14:28 |
| popey | gord: willcooke has the BBC startup sound when he logs in, it's ace. Boop-beep! | 14:39 |
| popey | I want that on my phone | 14:39 |
| MartijnVdS | is that like the Gameboy startup sound? | 14:40 |
| MartijnVdS | http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/gp2x.cgi?0,0,0,0,59,2681 ? | 14:41 |
| MartijnVdS | http://8bs.com/sounds.htm ? | 14:41 |
| oimon | i had an electron...not such a beefy sound | 14:42 |
| * oimon is floating in nostalgia land | 14:42 | |
| * MartijnVdS had a clone PC (8MHz) | 14:43 | |
| MartijnVdS | it did weird things with it floppy and printer motors at boot | 14:43 |
| MartijnVdS | then the hard disk started to "beep" while reading | 14:43 |
| MartijnVdS | or whistle | 14:43 |
| gord | someone should make a ZXSpectrum emulator for phones, you could load the games by playing the taps on a tape player and having the phone listen to the sound | 14:44 |
| oimon | think i might change my text message sound | 14:44 |
| davmor2 | gord: nice free time project for you by the look of it :) | 14:45 |
| gord | davmor2, my free time is dominated with saving princess zelda | 14:47 |
| gord | someone has to | 14:47 |
| oimon | i'll help after dec 25th with a gold wii controller | 14:48 |
| davmor2 | gord: you're a sad sad man ;) | 14:49 |
| oimon | in the meantime i'm playing oblivion | 14:50 |
| oimon | not sure if it's worth the time investment yet though | 14:50 |
| oimon | seem to be running around in caves a lot atm | 14:50 |
| gord | davmor2, you misspelled "fantastic" | 14:50 |
| daubers | gord: Your princess is in another castle | 14:51 |
| gord | daubers, wrong game series ;) | 14:52 |
| davmor2 | gord: no pretty sure it's alway zelda | 14:52 |
| daubers | gord: I always felt that they should mix the two | 14:52 |
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| gord | princess is in another castle is from mario ;) about peach | 14:53 |
| MartijnVdS | Princess Preach | 14:53 |
| davmor2 | gord: peach I thought it was toadstool | 14:54 |
| MartijnVdS | davmor2: Toad said it about Peach | 14:54 |
| gord | toad isn't a princess! | 14:54 |
| gord | daubers, http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/534416 there you go | 14:55 |
| davmor2 | MartijnVdS: Peach is her first name now it makes sense | 14:55 |
| davmor2 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Peach | 14:55 |
| ali1234 | if anyone is interested, that GCHQ code posted earlier appears to be a DOS .com file. i'm not going to attempt to run executables from spying agencies on any computers i care about... | 15:10 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: you can run it through a disassembler | 15:11 |
| oimon | in a VM | 15:11 |
| daubers | gord: Afternoon productivity -10000 | 15:13 |
| * oimon has a little snigger when people think my made-up-name account is a real person | 15:14 | |
| oimon | e.g. jacob jaguar , barry badger and tom cat | 15:14 |
| * AlanBell suspects the .com file will just output 15b436de1f9107f3778aad525e5d0b20.js | 15:17 | |
| shauno | eh, I came across at chap by the name of "randy sailor". I find most names believable now | 15:17 |
| AlanBell | oh, maybe it outputs a word that you type into the page to get to the javascript | 15:18 |
| dogmatic69 | shauno: his parents must have a good sense of humor | 15:19 |
| oimon | i knew a randy walerus too | 15:19 |
| shauno | I believe it doesn't carry the same meaning in the US | 15:20 |
| oimon | for their loss | 15:20 |
| DJones | They're as good as the couple we had at work booking their honeymoon, it was a Miss O. Something was marrying a Mr Krap, I can't image anybody wanting to be known as "Mrs O Krap" | 15:21 |
| popey | AlanBell: dosbox? | 15:23 |
| shauno | why's deadbeef written big-endian? | 15:26 |
| czajkowski | DJones: dr. I'm missing Mr. Krap | 15:26 |
| czajkowski | sooo soo many jokes | 15:26 |
| KrisDouglas | I cannot get my head around the ubuntu distro names, surely a panda is cuter than a pangolin. | 15:29 |
| popey | they're not supposed to be cute | 15:30 |
| popey | warthog? | 15:30 |
| KrisDouglas | popey, but everyone knows cute is better :P | 15:30 |
| popey | OSX Lion? | 15:30 |
| KrisDouglas | lions are cute | 15:31 |
| gordonjcp | lions are cute | 15:31 |
| popey | small ones, yeah ☺ | 15:31 |
| gordonjcp | big snuggly cats | 15:31 |
| popey | ☺ | 15:31 |
| KrisDouglas | Is there a document that actually explains the naming? | 15:31 |
| AlanBell | ice cream sandwich | 15:31 |
| popey | yes | 15:31 |
| gordonjcp | you just don't want to encourage them to start play-fighting | 15:31 |
| popey | mark explains each name in a blog post / mailing list post | 15:31 |
| KrisDouglas | because I always get laughed at when someone hears the name of the current ubuntu release | 15:31 |
| popey | or jono | 15:31 |
| gordonjcp | need to make sure that they know you are the Big Cat and they are the Little Cats | 15:31 |
| KrisDouglas | my grilfriend still loves that heron | 15:31 |
| czajkowski | KrisDouglas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames | 15:31 |
| popey | KrisDouglas: dont give the name then | 15:31 |
| popey | use version numbersa | 15:31 |
| gordonjcp | KrisDouglas: the heron graphic for the desktop was lovely | 15:32 |
| gordonjcp | also | 15:32 |
| popey | yeah, still the best t-shirt | 15:32 |
| KrisDouglas | popey, in an office full of geeks they always ask me what the name is now | 15:32 |
| AlanBell | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/784 | 15:32 |
| KrisDouglas | it's a running joke | 15:32 |
| gordonjcp | Heron-era Ubuntu had a way nicer colour scheme | 15:32 |
| gordonjcp | the current colour scheme is frankly horrific | 15:32 |
| DJones | KrisDouglas: If the ubuntu codenames are odd, try these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_kernel_names | 15:32 |
| popey | see also fedora names | 15:32 |
| popey | Beefy Miracle anyone? | 15:33 |
| AlanBell | KrisDouglas: android has sillier names, osX has big cat names, fedora has ridiculous names | 15:33 |
| gordonjcp | the white, grey and purple thing, jeez | 15:33 |
| * BigRedS is currently using Squeeze and Wheezy :/ | 15:33 | |
| gordonjcp | looks like my desktop has septicaemia | 15:33 |
| DJones | beefy miracle sounds like Bovril | 15:33 |
| KrisDouglas | I think the food names has worked really well for Android | 15:33 |
| AlanBell | DJones: for reasons nobody understands beefy miracle is associated with a pork sausage in a bun | 15:33 |
| KrisDouglas | food names have** | 15:33 |
| czajkowski | KrisDouglas: ah yes cause who doesn't want to go to a sweet shop after reading them | 15:34 |
| dogmatic69 | :O Sheep on Meth | 15:34 |
| czajkowski | I am not looking forward to Q name | 15:34 |
| DJones | AlanBell: That must be something American | 15:34 |
| KrisDouglas | I wish there was another release before the end of this year. Rabid Reindeer. | 15:34 |
| czajkowski | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames#Q suggestions | 15:34 |
| KrisDouglas | I had to skip Q because that one is rubbish | 15:34 |
| KrisDouglas | Quail? | 15:34 |
| popey | Quagga! | 15:35 |
| czajkowski | KrisDouglas: oddly nobody has suggested reindeer for R | 15:35 |
| KrisDouglas | I <3 reindeer. | 15:35 |
| czajkowski | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames#Q | 15:35 |
| czajkowski | bah | 15:35 |
| DJones | Quirky Quokka | 15:35 |
| czajkowski | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames#R | 15:35 |
| quagga | yeah! Quagga! | 15:35 |
| KrisDouglas | Randy Raccoon?? | 15:36 |
| czajkowski | no chinny raccoon :) | 15:36 |
| czajkowski | as it should be from lugradio | 15:36 |
| KrisDouglas | R should be roadrunner | 15:36 |
| czajkowski | KrisDouglas: anyone can add suggestions to the wiki | 15:37 |
| KrisDouglas | I will, trust me :) | 15:37 |
| KrisDouglas | Ruthless Ringworm | 15:38 |
| KrisDouglas | I can't see myself using an OS with that name :) | 15:38 |
| KrisDouglas | Not that that has any real bearing on it | 15:38 |
| oimon | i'm going to use beefy miracle even if it's rubbish | 15:39 |
| gordonjcp | KrisDouglas: that doesn't fit the naming scheme | 15:40 |
| gordonjcp | since ringworm is a fungal infection rather than actually a worm | 15:40 |
| KrisDouglas | gordonjcp, foiled. | 15:42 |
| KrisDouglas | oimon, what is beefy miracle? | 15:42 |
| oimon | the next defora release Kri | 15:42 |
| KrisDouglas | sounds like a newborn anal-dwelling buttmonkey. | 15:43 |
| oimon | fedora | 15:43 |
| MooDoo | o/ beefy miracle :D | 15:45 |
| KrisDouglas | What was going though their minds when they thought of that? | 15:45 |
| MooDoo | http://beefymiracle.org/ | 15:45 |
| MooDoo | hehe we had fun picking that one :d | 15:45 |
| oimon | it's brilliant | 15:46 |
| MooDoo | we had it before but it got rejected for previous releases :D | 15:46 |
| oimon | better than all those poncey names | 15:46 |
| KrisDouglas | All of the other options that people voted for were rubbish to be fair. | 15:46 |
| oimon | does chromium have a master password thingy like firefox? | 15:51 |
| popey | \o/ Jabber | 15:55 |
| MattJ | Jabber \o/ | 15:56 |
| gord | \o/ Jibber \o/ | 15:56 |
| brobostigon | xmmp ? | 15:56 |
| daubers | \o/ jabber | 15:56 |
| AlanBell | Quit yo . . . | 15:56 |
| davmor2 | popey: where's czajkowski I'll jab her :D | 15:56 |
| MattJ | XMPP \o/ | 15:56 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: allow me sir, czajkowski jab jab jab jab jab | 15:57 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: quit your jibber jabber you fool! | 15:57 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: the irish Mrs T | 15:58 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: i wouldn't mes.. | 15:59 |
| GrahamIRC | Hi all. Does anyone have any experience of 10Gig nics on Linux? | 15:59 |
| MooDoo | that's just plain greedy :) | 16:00 |
| GrahamIRC | haha | 16:00 |
| daubers | GrahamIRC: In what way? | 16:00 |
| GrahamIRC | actually I want them so I can do some iPerf testing of 10G links | 16:00 |
| popey | heh | 16:01 |
| GrahamIRC | so really just traffic generation | 16:01 |
| popey | we had them at my last place of work | 16:01 |
| * daubers has hundreds of them :) | 16:01 | |
| popey | we 'tested' them by rsyncing TB's of data over the wire | 16:01 |
| daubers | I do something similar | 16:01 |
| GrahamIRC | what nics did you use and what were your results? | 16:02 |
| AlanBell | GrahamIRC: no, but I would imagine you want to increase your MTU to get the throughput | 16:03 |
| daubers | Myricom ones are pretty good, have saturated supermicro ones (1090MB/s or there abouts) | 16:03 |
| GrahamIRC | I've found some useful info on tuning - RWIN etc - but it's more NIC recommendations I'm looking for | 16:03 |
| GrahamIRC | from what I've read the Intel ones are not ideal for iPerf type testing | 16:04 |
| daubers | GrahamIRC: I've always stuck with supermicro (rebranded intel really, but cheaper than intel) or myricoms | 16:04 |
| [DumB]SGR | mleh, default server connection fail. | 16:04 |
| GrahamIRC | I seem to be having problems getting to the myricom sute at the mo | 16:04 |
| daubers | hmmm odd | 16:05 |
| GrahamIRC | I'm sure it'll reappear at some point! | 16:06 |
| GrahamIRC | have you used them with RHEL? | 16:06 |
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| daubers | Mostly with Ubuntu, but some of our end users have RHEL stacks with theirs | 16:06 |
| daubers | I think they had myricoms because they needed SFP+ type connections rather than CX4 | 16:07 |
| GrahamIRC | btw, there's lots of useful info here: http://fasterdata.es.net/ | 16:07 |
| GrahamIRC | yes I do really need SFP+ since these will be test boxes and will be moved around to test differing connections | 16:07 |
| GrahamIRC | ok, I'll have a dig around the myricoms | 16:08 |
| daubers | meh, (on the website) I've got a storage box that easily saturates the number of 10GbE cards I can get in the unit | 16:08 |
| GrahamIRC | what's that? | 16:09 |
| daubers | 24 SSD's with a funky raid setup. Suprising how many people will buy them for £30-40k | 16:09 |
| GrahamIRC | :-) | 16:09 |
| daubers | ran out of client machines when I hit ~6GB/s | 16:10 |
| GrahamIRC | I've started using SSDs at home and they are definitely QUICK! | 16:10 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | How quick are they? | 16:10 |
| MooDoo | mine rocks | 16:10 |
| GrahamIRC | on asus m/b getting around 300-400MB/sec | 16:11 |
| GrahamIRC | and pretty much zero seek time which really helps | 16:12 |
| popey | heh | 16:15 |
| popey | i have no spinning rust in my machines now | 16:15 |
| MooDoo | yaya | 16:15 |
| popey | only servers have them | 16:15 |
| MooDoo | yay i meant | 16:15 |
| gord | popey, the water cooling thing work out okay? | 16:15 |
| popey | no ☹ | 16:16 |
| popey | doesn't fit in my desktop | 16:16 |
| GrahamIRC | hmm can anyone resolve myricom.com ? | 16:17 |
| gord | ah that sucks, it didn't fit in my desktop either, but it was crampt in there anyway so i got a new case too | 16:17 |
| gord | massive corsair thing, really nice, really spacey :) | 16:17 |
| popey | heh | 16:17 |
| gord | is it just the fan size? | 16:18 |
| daubers | gord: You put your computer inside Kevin Spacey? | 16:21 |
| popey | yeah, its too big for the back of the case | 16:21 |
| gord | yeah same thing as me, oh well | 16:22 |
| gord | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHi_nsofbhA is very nice if you want a case ;) | 16:24 |
| * Laney wibbles | 16:32 | |
| Laney | http://open.spotify.com/track/4TPs7jNczGXpjYlc7HHeV7 Christmas song of the day | 16:32 |
| Azelphur | Hmm, I'm running the Mono version of KeePass and it's really messed up half following my GTK theme | 17:00 |
| Azelphur | anyone know how I might fix that? | 17:01 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Andrew] SlickPanel 0.02 Released! - http://whyareyoureadingthisurl.wordpress.com/2011/12/01/slickpanel-0-02-released/ | 17:05 |
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| awilkins | I need beer. And pizza. | 18:21 |
| jutnux | I have tea but no food as of yet. | 18:22 |
| awilkins | Something with pork meatballs and cheese | 18:23 |
| awilkins | No chance for at least another hour | 18:23 |
| awilkins | Frowny face. | 18:23 |
| jutnux | Sucks to be you my friend. | 18:27 |
| awilkins | Tram-gamble : win, I'll actually get home on time, hooray. | 18:31 |
| jutnux | You at work awilkins? | 18:32 |
| awilkins | Commuting home | 18:32 |
| jutnux | Bus? | 18:32 |
| jutnux | Or train? | 18:32 |
| awilkins | Tram, ATM | 18:32 |
| jutnux | Ah right. | 18:32 |
| awilkins | Crossing Manchester to next train | 18:33 |
| jutnux | Ah, take it you have a long commute. | 18:34 |
| awilkins | 2:20 | 18:34 |
| awilkins | Happily don't do it much anymore. | 18:35 |
| jutnux | Woahj | 18:35 |
| jutnux | Woah | 18:35 |
| jutnux | Lucky you have a laptop though ;) | 18:35 |
| awilkins | This is my phone. | 18:35 |
| jutnux | Ah. | 18:35 |
| awilkins | Not enough space to get the lappy out usually | 18:36 |
| * popey just commuted home | 18:39 | |
| popey | 10 feet or so | 18:39 |
| popey | I'm _exhausted_! | 18:39 |
| mgdm | how are you finding working from home? | 18:40 |
| * mgdm is almost certain it wouldn't work for him | 18:40 | |
| popey | pretty good | 18:40 |
| awilkins | 10 feet up a rope would be challenging | 18:40 |
| popey | i go to the office now and then | 18:40 |
| awilkins | I'm ok with it too,lall my games are on Windows | 18:41 |
| awilkins | Well, not *all* my games. | 18:41 |
| awilkins | Maybe they should just do a panopticon service for home workers - randomly illuminates your webcam light and yu're never sure when they are actually watching :) | 18:43 |
| awilkins | I work better at home, really. Less distracting than our vast open plan shoutfest of an office. | 18:45 |
| jutnux | Seeing that I don't have a job can't really comment | 18:45 |
| jutnux | But I do work quite well at my own desk. | 18:45 |
| popey | jutnux: looking for work? We're hiring! :D | 18:48 |
| awilkins | popey: what are the requirements? | 18:48 |
| popey | depends on the role | 18:48 |
| popey | http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/careers | 18:48 |
| awilkins | (checks mail) | 18:49 |
| awilkins | Phooey, no response to application for Ubuntu One Windows dev. | 18:50 |
| * Myrtti sighs | 18:50 | |
| awilkins | The channel with existing devs seems lively | 18:50 |
| jutnux | popey: A bit too young, probably ;) | 19:00 |
| jutnux | Enjoying the video though! | 19:04 |
| awilkins | "At Canonical, we won't imprison you in the basement and feed you on rodent pellets." | 19:05 |
| jutnux | Good god, installing XP. The shame ;) | 19:06 |
| mgdm | I did that the other day (in a VM) | 19:07 |
| awilkins | XP in a VM runs faster than our corporate install of XP on a real machine. Even when the host IS that machine. | 19:08 |
| jutnux | Hah | 19:09 |
| jutnux | Presumably they have a load of rubbish on there. | 19:09 |
| jutnux | I'm doing it in a VM for a friend's mother who's scanner only works in XP. | 19:10 |
| AlanBell | awilkins: not much basement on a 27th floor office | 19:48 |
| czajkowski | http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/29/qa-installing-software-on-linux/ | 20:12 |
| smittix | Evening all | 20:20 |
| smittix | Any wordpress users here? | 20:20 |
| Darael | !anyone | smittix | 20:21 |
| lubotu3 | smittix: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. | 20:21 |
| smittix | meh | 20:21 |
| Darael | Incidentally, I have a blog on wp.com as a gap-fill measure until I can get my ex-laptop server (where my wp.org install is hosted) back up, when I return to the UK. | 20:22 |
| smittix | Was wondering if anyone here used any auto post to twitter plugins? I have tried two but they won't work even though they supposedly support 0auth. | 20:23 |
| MartijnVdS | smittix: did you do the oauth dance? | 20:24 |
| HOHOHaney | did you know that you can't donate blood if you've been to the states in the preceding 28 days | 20:24 |
| HOHOHaney | i now do | 20:24 |
| MartijnVdS | (click from your site to twitter and back with twitter asking for a password) | 20:24 |
| MartijnVdS | HOHOHaney: Just in case you picked up Americanism | 20:25 |
| smittix | Yeah. | 20:25 |
| HOHOHaney | MartijnVdS: west nile virus apparently | 20:47 |
| HOHOHaney | also this stupid nick doesn't have hilights | 20:47 |
| * Myrtti drools | 21:17 | |
| Myrtti | making pearl barley pudding | 21:17 |
| andyloughran | heylo | 21:39 |
| popey | howdy howdy howdy | 21:39 |
| jutnux | HELLO | 21:39 |
| jacobw | syn | 21:40 |
| mgdm | ack | 21:41 |
| andyloughran | rst | 21:42 |
| jacobw | \o/ | 21:42 |
| andyloughran | It's a mini TCP party | 21:42 |
| === PaulW2U is now known as G4MBY | ||
| daubers | Hmm... new arduino UI is a bit ....... turquoise | 21:44 |
| jacobw | what are all doing this evening? | 21:44 |
| andyloughran | I've killed my server | 21:44 |
| jacobw | whoops | 21:44 |
| daubers | andyloughran: Shotgun out the back? | 21:44 |
| andyloughran | been testing out percona | 21:44 |
| andyloughran | the toolkit in particular | 21:44 |
| jacobw | andyloughran: perhaps you need a juju charm to revive it :p | 21:45 |
| andyloughran | it looked pretty good and want to use it for some proper production stuff | 21:45 |
| andyloughran | anyone else got experience with it? | 21:45 |
| andyloughran | mysql master->slave | 21:45 |
| andyloughran | instead of just having the relay logs playing on the slave, you can get the servers to sync (through some clever script work) every X days.. if they're not already in sync (or to see if someone has accidentally written to the slave) | 21:46 |
| andyloughran | some of the functionality is purely script-based (percona toolkit) but they've also released a mod of MySQL | 21:47 |
| andyloughran | I'll take that as a no regards other's experience | 21:47 |
| andyloughran | or at least those of you awake and reading my </monologue> | 21:47 |
| andyloughran | not sure if it's quiet tonight or this IRC client is no good. | 21:53 |
| AlanBell | its oh so quiet | 21:53 |
| AlanBell | </bjork> | 21:53 |
| andyloughran | ah ok | 21:53 |
| jacobw | are there any gnome/gtk applications for reading epubs? | 21:54 |
| andyloughran | jacobw: not that I can help you with | 22:02 |
| AlanBell | jacobw: apt-cache search epub | 22:17 |
| AlanBell | calibre is reputed to be good | 22:18 |
| jacobw | i'm aware of calibre, i plan to use it manage my ebooks | 22:19 |
| Azelphur | hmm, disk usage analyser is being funny. It says I have a 188.4GB home folder, but the contents add up to nowhere near that. The ring chart is actually only 50% of a ring | 22:28 |
| Azelphur | what is this madness | 22:28 |
| andyloughran | weird | 22:30 |
| dwatkins | Azelphur: hidden files? | 22:31 |
| Azelphur | dwatkins: seems like it's managing to read hidden files fine, maybe it's a permissions thing | 22:32 |
| dwatkins | ah yes, I'd check with 'du' to be sure where the space is used. | 22:33 |
| AlanBell | gvfs as well can confuse it | 22:33 |
| jacobw | is it confused by soft/hard links? | 22:33 |
| Azelphur | looks like it isn't showing files in the directoy | 22:33 |
| Azelphur | directory* | 22:34 |
| Azelphur | it's just showing folder sizes | 22:34 |
| jacobw | afaik its only supposed to show directories | 22:34 |
| Azelphur | that's kinda silly :P | 22:34 |
| Azelphur | I love the way that Siri sneakily avoids the question when you ask it where it was made | 22:59 |
| Azelphur | and replies with "I was designed in California by Apple" | 22:59 |
| jacobw | can it do a 'portal' voice? | 23:01 |
| Azelphur | xD | 23:01 |
| popey | the uk version is female | 23:04 |
| popey | or is it | 23:04 |
| popey | no, other way round | 23:04 |
| popey | I never use it | 23:05 |
| shauno | it's a male voice in the UK .. but the only way to change voices, is to change localization :/ | 23:13 |
| popey | yeah | 23:14 |
| shauno | hm, lucid wants to update grub again. last time I let it touch grub, I was left unbootable :/ | 23:16 |
| Myrtti | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSH6JgAQb14 | 23:16 |
| popey | you should hear that in the uk voice | 23:18 |
| popey | very odd | 23:18 |
| popey | http://people.canonical.com/~alan/daisy.ogg | 23:25 |
| jacobw | lol | 23:28 |
| Myrtti | popey: did I just hear you mutter under your breath :-D in the end of the recording | 23:38 |
| Myrtti | ahhahahahahahahahhaa | 23:38 |
| Myrtti | :-D | 23:38 |
| Myrtti | naughty popey. tut-tut | 23:39 |
| Azelphur | popey / Myrtti / jacobw android version of that http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/misc/December%202011/singmeasong.ogg | 23:47 |
| Azelphur | it's just like...what | 23:47 |
| Azelphur | I think it's singing in Chinese or something haha | 23:48 |
| shauno | that was .. rather unexpected | 23:50 |
| Azelphur | haha | 23:51 |
| shauno | and yeah .. daisy sounds really wrong with the 'daniel' voice | 23:52 |
| Seeker` | uk siri voice is the announcer on weakest link | 23:57 |
| shauno | I haven't even looked at upgrading yet. I've got an awful feeling I'd end up having to use the US voiceset | 23:58 |
| Azelphur | shauno: you know Siri just uploads the ogg to a remote server, and you can do the same thing on pretty much any phone? :D | 23:59 |
| shauno | yeah | 23:59 |
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