[04:25] morning superfly and everyone else thats up so early [04:25] Kilos: By the way, drubin on freenode told me "tell Kilos it is always a pleasure!" 7 hours, 59 minutes and 16 seconds ago [05:01] hi Kilos [05:02] ja, veels te vroeg wakker vanoggend [05:02] wow you early Kerbero [05:02] het jy die bed nat gemaak [05:02] vakansie+voor 1 gaan slaap [05:02] lol [05:03] lo jpm [05:03] hi === Kerbero[hp-netbo is now known as Kerbero[hp-nb] [05:19] mornin dougx [05:19] gooie more Kilos [05:19] skuus man [05:19] cremora [05:20] i forget who is englikaans and who is afrigish [05:24] eks nie seker of dit die ouder of die dom is nie [05:27] lol - i'm frenglish [05:28] ha ha ha [05:28] you do that parley thing too? [05:29] yes - parlez ( i presume ) [05:30] ya [05:32] nice now we just need someone that can speak martian [05:33] who of you's is studying at varsities [05:34] everyone that is still asleep [05:34] ha ha ha [05:35] i was just wanting some feedback on why ubuntu is growing so slowly with the freedom toasters at the varsities [05:36] one would think that everyone there would get ubuntu especially because its free [05:39] freedom toaster? [05:39] lol [05:39] that is soo old [05:39] we just use ftp.sun directly [05:39] much easier and cheaper [05:39] dont you know about the freedom toasters Kerbero [05:39] oh my [05:39] yes i do [05:40] and that no-one is using it anymore [05:40] then whats stopping all the students going ubuntu? [05:40] they like windows [05:40] they like gaming [05:40] eish [05:40] the others use ubuntu [05:40] oh ya [05:40] like me [05:40] but yes, ubuntu is growing a lot [05:41] im sure the linux guys are working on the gaming side [05:41] but with all the unity bugs people are a bit more hesitant than in the past [05:41] there was someone here about a year ago that gamed on ubuntu all the time [05:41] to reach more people the default install should word [05:41] *work [05:41] ya [05:41] and with unity it is not always the case [05:42] i did play my fare share of games in ubuntu [05:42] but i don't like gaming [05:42] methinks unity shoulda been stabilised before they switched [05:42] yeah [05:42] and don't understand me wrong, i like unity [05:42] i have it on both my netbook and pc [05:42] but it is buggy [05:43] and if you not an IT guy then its hassles [05:43] and having to restart my computer because things started to lagg is not nice [05:43] exactly [05:43] ya but dont forget the common message on windows [05:44] you have moved your mouse windows needs to restart [05:44] lol [05:45] yes but seriously now, these day one can get much better uptime from a winXP or win7 install than a ubuntu 11.10 or 11.04 install [05:45] my 10.04 boxes are stable though [05:45] at least here i can install stuff and it works immediately [05:45] i heard people say that of windows [05:45] what do you mean by uptime? [05:45] and i had it myself too [05:46] type uptime in a terminal [05:46] time between restarts [05:46] na i got my daughter in aus to install pidgin on xp and it didnt work till restarting [05:47] weird [05:47] especially for something FOSS like pidgin [05:47] miles@P4:~$ uptime [05:47] 07:47:11 up 1:28, 3 users, load average: 0.03, 0.06, 0.09 [05:47] what does that mean [05:47] almost 8 hours [05:48] the best i got here in my flat was 100 days [05:48] for who or what [05:49] i havent been on for 8 hours [05:49] no [05:49] i read it wrong [05:49] it is now 7:47 [05:49] and the system has been up for 1:28 [05:50] and where are the 3 users [05:50] open terminals? system users (daemons)? [05:50] ah [05:51] oh like my evolution xchat and 1 terminal [05:51] hmm [05:51] no i don't think so [05:51] i had a terminal open and xchat and only had one user [05:52] oh and iftop is running [05:52] that needs sudo [05:52] so yes [05:52] ya [05:52] that counts i guess [06:18] hi fulcrum [06:18] mourning [06:19] so... whats new? [06:23] why you mourning [06:25] peeps getting ready to go home for the hols [06:26] thats about all thats new methinks [06:26] aren't they already on holiday? [06:27] ? [06:27] you tell me [06:28] morning Kilos [06:29] hiya superfly all well there? [06:29] Kilos: mostly [06:30] whats news superfly [06:30] any prospects [06:31] Kilos: not really... haven't had anyone ask me to come for an interview yet [06:31] what about the old place or isnt that an option? [06:32] not mourning anything [06:33] Kilos: what peeps are getting ready for the hols from where? [06:33] superfly: where are you? [06:34] i thought all the students were and also the guys who work at companies that close down over the festive season [06:34] fulcrum: cape town [06:36] superfly: ah 'k [06:36] * fulcrum is also looking for new employment [06:37] superfly, have you thought about freelancing [06:38] or even opening your own shop? [06:38] Kilos: yes, there's not enough work [06:38] eish [06:38] superfly: Kilos doing linux stuff or ...? [06:38] I'd need to make a bunch of business contacts first, and I don't have time for that, I need food on my table [06:38] fulcrum: Python development [06:39] aaah... [06:39] fulcrum, any IT work [06:39] even windows if need be [06:39] fulcrum: my job title at my previous company was Application Architect [06:39] if there isnt linux work then fixing windows pcs can still keep one going [06:41] superfly: where did you work before? [06:41] ČareerJunction [06:41] Kilos: you working or also looking? [06:41] superfly: thats... ironic? [06:41] fulcrum, na i old already [06:42] retired? ;-P [06:42] um [06:42] disabled kinda [06:43] oooh ok on disability? [06:43] na [06:43] workmans comp too fulla to get things going [06:44] superfly: have you looked at those places where they put up work and you bid on it... [06:44] fulcrum: Kilos took a knock to the head a number of years ago, but the government didn't accept his claim/application [06:44] cant remember them now... [06:44] gave up after 5 years of trying to get a disability pension [06:44] fulcrum: no, I haven't [06:44] ty superfly [06:44] Kilos: so how you coping now? [06:44] my sister supports me fulcrum [06:45] and i help out on the plot where i can [06:45] and fix her windows pc [06:45] hehe [06:45] cool, good to have family [06:46] wheres your plot [06:46] just west of pretoria [06:46] family is everything [06:46] yer, got 2 boys and another on the way [06:47] partly the reason I need another job closer to home [06:47] yeah its no good not being together [06:48] you know I missed the birth of my second son... cos I was in pta, and my wife had a precipitate labour in randburg [06:49] I still got there before the doctor did though [06:49] whew [06:49] but I should of been there damnit instead of working overtime [06:50] eish [06:52] superfly, have you placed your cv with employment agencies [06:52] only prob is they get hits from all over the world [06:55] superfly: you only looking local? [06:56] I assume you have googled python jobs [07:00] mmm never heard of careerjet before... [07:26] zeref: 30/11 22:36:49 hmmm [07:27] hi Tonberry inetpro [07:27] more [07:32] heh, good morning everyone [07:32] Happy Mailman Day! [07:32] haha [07:32] whats that inetpro [07:33] Kilos: you don't subscribe to mailing lists? [07:33] only ours [07:34] actually have had one for quite a while now [07:34] Mailman is a popular mailing list manager and every 1st of the month you get password reminders from all those lists you subscribed to [07:34] eish [07:37] Kerbero / Kerbero[hp-nb]: wb [07:37] thnx [07:38] what's with the nick? [07:38] lol [07:40] hp-netbook [07:40] was too long [07:41] anyone had a look at this... http://www.ftacademy.com [07:41] heheh [07:41] Kerbero[hp-nb]: ahh [07:41] fulcrum: het jy nie werk om te doen nie :P [07:42] in fact I do [07:42] is jy pada se boetie? [07:42] doubtful [07:42] ok [07:42] this isnt the fulcrum you looking for ;-P [07:42] hehe [07:48] Kilos [07:48] hoe gaan dit oom? [07:48] yessir [07:48] hows ya [07:49] goed en self [07:49] wen jy daar [07:52] grrrr [07:52] kbmonkey, [07:52] hehe\ [07:56] ag so very busy Kilos [07:57] thats good? [07:57] i hope [07:57] its good [07:58] and yourself? [07:59] i so miss my internet! [07:59] you still havent got sorted yet [07:59] no geek news, no slashdot, no irc, madness I tell you [07:59] thats bad [07:59] ha ha you know how telkom runs ;) [08:00] eish [08:00] ten minutes on a call, then they say im in the wrong dept cos their answering masjien is such a mess of options [08:00] ha ha ha [08:01] sounds like vodacom [08:01] then another ten and they cut me off due to 'technical difficulties' (read: incompetence) [08:01] they keep transferring me to other sections [08:01] but after 5 months of bitching they actually sending someone here today to test [08:02] yesh they have an intricate network of options and misguided answers to keep you on the call for long as possible [08:02] it's kinda like... pergatory? [08:02] ya maddening [08:02] the seventh circle of hell [08:02] hehe [08:03] somewhere between lawyers and apple consultants [08:04] eish lawyers [08:04] prokerowers [08:32] kbmonkey, wb [08:36] sorry got dc [08:36] ran out of battery [08:36] will have to run just now, got to paint some more walls :D [08:37] have a good one ubuntu-za [08:38] you too laddy [08:38] good luck with everything you try [08:40] thanks oom :) [10:10] yay vodacom fixed their power and even came to test from here [10:11] with my modem as well [10:13] inetpro, ^^ [10:13] how far are your queries with them [10:14] heh Kilos, and did they fix anything? [10:14] well i am getting 80% signal strenght on my nm [10:15] Kilos: wow, how are your packet losses now? [10:15] and shows hsdpa on their windows xp lappy [10:15] wait i check [10:16] some 0% and others at 20% and here and there 80% [10:17] eish [10:17] what did he say about that? [10:18] he says most of their probs are because telkom does the connection to the tower [10:19] vodacom is busy upgrading their towers to optic fibre then he says signal will fly [10:20] but i have his fone number so if it drops i goona bomb him direct [10:20] lo bakuman [10:21] inetpro, he says telkom is whats holding them back at the moment [10:21] Kilos: haha, good excuse [10:22] he showed me my modem can do 3m/s [10:22] the packet losses are between the tower and your modem [10:22] yeah but thats the sa way [10:22] pass the buck [10:23] what strings did you pull in order to get him there? [10:23] * inetpro is still waiting [10:23] i mailed their CEO [10:23] sjoe [10:23] told you to do the same [10:23] hmm... maybe that's what we need to do then [10:24] you can just complain to him on twitter [10:24] hurrrmmmm [10:24] i got his twiiter id and mail addies if you interested [10:24] lo zeref [10:24] lo Kilos [10:25] just watched a sick movie, Antitrust [10:25] "Human Knowledge belongs to he world" [10:25] zeref, i have a ibm P3 you can have if you like [10:25] just needs ram [10:26] Kilos: so do you see a difference with your connectivity? [10:26] yeah [10:26] mail comes quick now again like 6 months ago [10:26] hmmm, ram for p3, thats expensive [10:26] cool [10:26] how much ram do you have atm? [10:27] i will have to go check it zeref . i think i took it all out for my P4 [10:27] kk [10:32] sorry zeref its all in here [10:34] :P [10:34] pieter@vodacom.co.za [10:34] ceo@vodacom.co.za [10:34] http://twitter.com/#!/uyspj [10:34] inetpro, ^^ [10:35] Kilos: thanks [10:35] yw [10:35] oh no [10:35] np [10:35] hehe [10:36] Kilos: remind me to mail him on Saturday, or Monday [10:36] they also said that a booster helps if you got a very weak signal [10:36] to busy here [10:36] ok will try member for you [10:43] bbl [10:46] superfly: have you seen this? http://www.careerjet.co.za/python-jobs.html [10:49] fulcrum: yup, but I'll look again [10:52] cool [10:59] fulcrum: careerjet btw, is just an aggregator, they pull jobs from various sites [11:00] yeah I noticed... [11:01] superfly: seems to do a decent job of it :-) [11:51] superfly: can't you do freelancing for canonical? [11:51] inetpro: do they need someone? [11:51] surely drussell should be able to lign you up with something? :-) [11:53] we're always after talent! https://tbe.taleo.net/NA3/ats/careers/jobSearch.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1 [11:53] superfly: or ask around in the #ubuntu-community-team [11:55] superfly: I believe you have the right skills to make a difference [11:55] drussell: hrm, that looks interesting [12:00] drussell: where are you based? [12:02] superfly: personally I'm based in the UK [12:02] ah right, I see so [12:16] superfly: another option would be to consider some of our partners in SA... LSD or Obsidian [12:17] drussell: yeah, the only problem is that most of them are based in Joburg, and I'm in Cape Town [12:17] but I'll investigate [13:57] arent there a lot of startups in cape town? [14:54] go home safe all you workers [14:54] Maaz, coffee on [14:54] * Maaz washes some mugs [14:57] hey Kilos [14:57] hey superfly [14:58] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [14:58] Maaz, ty [14:58] Enjoy Kilos [18:16] hallooooo [18:23] shame poor afrodeity asked for help last night and everyone ignored him [18:32] inetpro, must i just remind you to mail them or must i remember where those addresses are so that i cant give them to you again on saterday [18:34] hmmmm [18:34] 1gb ram R500 [18:34] for p3 [18:34] FFFFFFUUUUUUUU [18:34] where from zeref [18:35] some comp shop next to campus [18:36] cheaper than when i got. maybe they starting to worroy that just now they gonna sit with it [18:36] but shop around [18:36] try find someone near the dumps to check for thrown away pcs every coupla days [18:37] its sdr hey [18:37] not ddr [18:38] meh, think i'll just get a new momboard [18:38] if you can get one with ram and cpu go for it [18:39] i have one i was planning to upgrade with but dual dore cpu's arent cheap either [18:39] or core 2 i think its called [18:40] upgrading is an investment [18:40] yeah [18:41] then put debian on it xD [18:41] i think a core 2 duo with 2g ram will fly with ubuntu [18:41] and leave ubuntu? [18:41] whew [18:42] this pc will still use ubunttu [18:42] ah ok [18:42] but the server will be debian [18:43] but i am think of going back to debian [18:43] as a server you dont need much ram [18:43] *thinking [18:43] superfly, ran an old pc with min ram as a server [18:44] yeah it is possible [18:44] Kilos: ran? I still run a server with 128 megs of RAM [18:44] there you go zeref [18:44] its the gui that eats ram [18:44] at the shop they did not have 256 or 512 [18:44] am i right [18:45] do they have 1g sdr ram cards? [18:46] out of stock [18:46] you can google [18:46] hmmm, bday is next week, i'll ask folks for a old pc [18:46] look for chinese pc shops [18:46] lulz, forgot bout my bday :P [18:47] lol [18:47] i saw an add somewhere sometime back [18:48] there are mpeeps that sell P4's for a grand [18:48] think they were in the cape but it said postage included [18:49] or look on gumtree [18:49] always stuff for sale there [18:49] hmmm [18:50] 01001111 01101110 01101100 01111001 00100000 [18:50] ffs, wrong chact [18:51] what you working out? [18:51] lol [18:52] playing around with bit shifting [18:52] with a homiw [18:52] *homie [18:53] superfly, do you know whats happening with our monthly meeting [18:54] im scared i missed something with being offline so much [18:54] Kilos: I haven't seen one for a while [18:55] yeah we missed this months one then i saw a mail from kbmonkey asking if anyone would arange one [18:55] so nothing has happened [18:55] maybe we wait till apie gets connected [18:56] hehe [18:56] nuvolari, ping [19:21] Kilos: I couldn't help with the last one, that was about the time I got back from the USA [19:21] this next one I could probably chair [19:21] does it matter if we skip a month superfly [19:21] Kilos: not really [19:22] not gonna affect membership or something [19:22] no [19:22]