=== PaulW2U is now known as G4MBY [01:30] How to update to java 1.7.0.1 from repository ? [02:57] валасымае валасы [02:57] !ru | xubuntu038 [02:58] xubuntu038: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [04:32] hi people i need help with something [04:33] im using ubuntu 11.10 with XFCE [04:34] and i do not have the network icon in thunar to see the network [04:34] i have a home network [04:41] asterismo: samba you mean? [04:41] i have been using gigolo to connect to ssh shares and other things [04:41] i forget who suggested it... Unit193 ? maybe? [04:41] i like it anyways... [04:42] Could have been, just remember to install gvfs-backends on new Xubuntu Oneiric install as it isn't in by default [04:49] i installed ubuntu oneiric and then installed XFCE desktop [04:49] and set XFCE by default [04:50] but its wierd, because i have the "network" shortcut in 2 machines but not in another one [04:50] That's not going to be the same as Xubuntu >_> [04:52] anyway i want to set up my public share in my home network and i cannot acces any public of any ubuntu machine [04:52] and i installed samba [04:52] i share via ssh these days [04:53] and i use http://www.swish-sftp.org/ when i need to have windows access a linux box like that [04:54] Unit193 > gvfs-backends need to restart? [04:55] Nope [04:56] and what it does? [04:56] i need to fix this [04:57] i have no network icon in my left side icon shortcut in thunar [04:57] and i do have that icon in my laptop [04:57] i use gigolo [04:57] asterismo: is that XFCE ? [04:57] Allows you to use gigolo more easily [04:58] holstein > is a desktop environment [04:58] asterismo: the machine that is 'working', is that XFCE? xubuntu? [04:59] ubuntu + XFCE [04:59] and xfdesktop [04:59] xfwm4 [05:00] almost xubuntu [05:00] ;) [05:00] im not sure what you are looking for [05:00] in thunar [05:00] the file manager [05:00] but, if you want to browse, and connect to a samba share, id try gigolo [05:01] there is network icon [05:01] just like nautilus [05:01] ok [05:01] but there is missing in one of my machines [05:01] mabye tis a plugin or something you didnt pull in [05:01] Are you looking for xfce4-places-plugin ? [05:01] that sounds like it ^^ [05:01] (Ubuntu + Xfce != Xubuntu) [05:01] Do Ubuntu FIrefox version numbers correspond with Firefox's version numbers? I'm running version 3.6.24 here on Xubuntu 10.10, and a webmaster is telling me the latest version is 8.x [05:02] its not that far off though n2diy [05:02] they've been moving fast [05:02] Ubuntu Firefox is the same as normal Firefox versions [05:03] you can try https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable [05:03] Unit193 > do you use xfce? [05:03] Xubuntu uses Xfce, so yes I do [05:03] asterismo: did you try that plugin? [05:03] the places plugin? [05:04] i installed but maybe i need to restart [05:04] Unit193 > go to XFCE menu > Settings > Desktop [05:04] icons tab [05:04] i have no network icon there, only file system, and stuff [05:05] maybe the plugin i need to re login [05:05] its in thunar [05:05] the 'network' icon [05:06] Ok, maybe I'm running 10.04 here, but it is Firefox 3.6.24. I'm playing with an interactive Python tutorial at www.learnpython.org, and it isn't working for me here, with Firefox or Xonquer. The webmaster is suggesting I upgrade to Firefox 8.x. Seems to me, he should be supporting as many browsers as possible? [05:06] yes [05:06] n2diy: you can add that PPA i linked [05:06] in thunar and in the desktop as well [05:06] so [05:06] n2diy: you can read there.. 'its aimed at lucid....' [05:06] i cannot acces to network folders [05:07] asterismo: im not sure what you have or dont have, but gigolo is quite nice [05:07] holstein, I'll take a look, thanks. [05:08] holstein > in thunar file manager > "Go" menu [05:08] and there should be "network" in there [05:08] asterismo: sure.. but i have it ;) [05:08] you have thunar? [05:08] yes [05:08] What's that cabbage the Chinese bury in the ground for about a week? [05:08] so i have to reinstall thunar? [05:08] i have thunar, running in xubuntu, in XFCE [05:08] bump [05:09] asterismo: i have no idea [05:09] i think theres a plugin you dont have [05:09] i thought the 'places' one sounded promising [05:09] but which one [05:09] there are few thunar-options in apt-get [05:10] apt-cache search thunar turns up a few [05:10] see if you have those installed [05:11] installing everything [05:11] ;) [05:12] sure, as long as you dont blame me ;) [05:12] i'm a gnome refugee [05:12] yeah, me too [05:12] won't complain [05:12] xfce its been good so far [05:12] and since i found gigolo, i havent bothered with anything else [05:12] but there are this minor details [05:13] how do i set up a public folder in it? [05:13] asterismo: i use ssh [05:13] I'd recommend you install Xubuntu as it will be easier for you to use, and easier for others to help you [05:13] i have my home wireless network and laptop, desktop [05:13] i dont do samba anymore [05:13] you set up samba shares just like before though [05:32] holstein, is upgrading Firefox with Launchpad going to confuse my package/upgrade manager? [05:33] Not at all, just remember to reload the package list [05:34] ok [06:46] hi, i installed gedit onto my xubuntu OS and wanted to know how to change the font of my embedded terminal. Here is a pix of what I mean. http://picpaste.com/-0DE32bmV.png [06:59] hi, i installed gedit onto my xubuntu OS and wanted to know how to change the font of my embedded terminal. Here is a pix of what I mean. http://picpaste.com/-0DE32bmV.png [06:59] repeating doesn't help [07:00] gedit is defalult in ubuntu. not xubuntu, you probably have better luck in #ubuntu [07:01] Sysi: true, i thought that it could be some settin in the os itself [07:01] that is y [07:02] and i couldnt know if someone is actually there since there is low activity [07:05] then you should just be patient [07:11] i will [07:44] hello? i've never used IRC, so excuse my noobness [07:45] i have a question about the sound settings [07:52] vancevep: lets hear your question [07:53] for some reason, i have to crank the volume on both my desktop and laptop just to hear videos very well [07:53] I've checked the volume control within the video and they are turned up [07:55] with Ubuntu, I didn't need to turn the volume up so high, but Xubuntu is a whole different story === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [08:25] Morning. Can someone recommend me a lightweight music programme like Rhythmbox for my old AMD Duron machine? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [10:25] does anyone know how to get the config options back in vinagre? [10:57] anyone able to get bluetooth headset work with xubuntu 11.10 [11:10] my issue with blueman on xubuntu 11.10 concerning connecting to headset is related to this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/blueman/+bug/892318 [11:10] Launchpad bug 892318 in Blueman "cannot turn on PulseAudio module in Blueman" [Undecided,New] [12:06] bigbrovar, not sure it helps but did you try checking "Advanced audio receiver" in the local services window? [12:06] (click on the blueman icon in your system tray, then click local services) [12:06] ehm right click on the blueman icon that is [12:07] oh and in plugins there seems to be a pulseaudio plugin, if you havnt tried that it might be worth checking out [12:09] locate blacklist [12:09] ehm [12:09] how can i deactivate and blacklist the OSS module? [12:26] hello there [12:26] I just want to know couple of things [13:14] ablomen, I did try that, when I try to enable the pulseaudio plugin I get this http://pastebin.com/QVJLAtUP [13:14] seems to be a blueman bug [13:16] lol i see the problem [13:16] or a problem anyway [13:17] yeah a bug has been filed on the issue [13:17] the plugin just checks if the third number (15 in 0.9.15) is bigger or equal to 15, but it is now version 1.0.0.. [13:17] so its just bad coding [13:18] if your up for it, you could try commenting a few lines of code, but ofc this is at your own risk etc [13:29] ablomen, yeah I think so, too. would let u know how it goes thanks [13:35] if i want to defince a shortcut for XF86AudioPrev, which command do i need for it? [13:36] kraut: I dunno if there's an easy way to do it systemwide in Xubuntu, but I enabled editable accelerators and assigned next and prev. track in banshee if that works [13:37] hmm, ok [13:37] from my understanding i just need to define the global xfce commands for such things but can't find any list for that [13:37] (it does require switching to your media player, of course, so that may not be ideal) [13:38] I don't know for sure that there is a list for it as a system event a la gnome [13:39] my understanding comes from gnome, maybe xfce differs in that point [13:42] yeah, I went hunting for a global media-key event sort of like the gnome keyboard shortcuts control when I switched, too :) [13:43] I don't think it's in Xfce, but don't quote me [13:45] no prob [13:45] i do this know with the rhythmbox tools [13:45] since gnome3 i don't care about gnome anymore [13:46] I keep trying to get into either Unity or Gnome 3 [13:46] I lived in Unity for 11.04, but I'm happy I switched to Xubuntu for 11.10 [13:47] i hated unity from the beginning ;) [13:47] hehe. [13:47] Apple's doing some of the same stuff to my OS X, too, sigh. [13:54] media keys usually work if you set gnome-services to be launched at startup [13:55] oooh, I hadn't thought about that :) [13:55] how much of gnome do I need to install along with? [13:56] I think most of it is there already [13:56] hm, lemme go play. (cool beans!) :) [14:31] Hey guys, I'm using xubuntu 11.10 and was wondering if theres any way to completely turn off the touchpad, since I have a trackpoint, that I mainly use. [14:38] hrrrrm, how is this volume applet called, if i want to start it by hand? [14:53] kora-chan: synclient TouchpadOff=1 [14:54] Sysi: thanks, worked perfectly [14:56] you can put that to settings -> sessions and startup -> autostart [14:57] 0 instead of 1 enables touchpad, you could set hotkeys for that too [14:57] (theme might be toggle too) [14:59] I use my laptop by itself at home and at work I plug it into a large monitor. Every day I have to bring up Applications/Settings/Settings Manager/Display and click "use this monitor" to get video out to start working. Is there a shortcut key combo, or a way to make a shortcut icon, to do this? [15:00] Sysi: hm true, i could map it to my fn keys, where it belongs anyway, but i think i'll just add it to the startup since this touchpad is too small to use anyway ;) [15:01] When I restart firefox (xubuntu 11.10 oneiric) it comes up with all of the firefox windows in background in the same virtual desktop. I then spend a while alt-tabbing to them and rearranging them across my virtual desktops. Every time I drag one, I go back to that window and I'm looking at the wallpaper. I have to alt-tab to make the next firefox window visible so I can drag it around. Is there a way to bring them all to foreground [15:01] at once? [15:02] puff: you could maybe get them to open straight to right desktop with devilspie [15:03] puff: you can export script with arandr and put that to hotkey or panel launcher [15:03] latter for display [15:05] arandr? [15:05] * puff googles. [15:05] Sysi: thanks. [15:06] !info arandr [15:06] arandr (source: arandr): Simple visual front end for XRandR. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.4-1 (oneiric), package size 48 kB, installed size 376 kB [15:21] Lo, does anyone know a menu editor other than Alacarte that won't depend on 225mb of extra gnome stuff? [15:23] apt-get install --no-install-recommends alacarte [15:28] Sysi, course :P thanks - damn that much depends on it! [15:28] or rather is recommended by it [15:29] rather impressed by the way with xubuntu 11.10 - last time I tried xubuntu i think it was 6.06 [15:29] must have loads of unity/gnome3 haters coming your way :P [15:30] * puff raises his hand. [15:30] Recent convert... not so much hating but when I jumped from 10.4 to 11.10 and saw the dramatic drop in performance, well... [15:30] been using lxde for a while - but it's very incomplete in parts... however at least pcmanfm has tabs, thunar doesn't by looks of it [15:33] I hate tabs on filemanager [15:34] Sysi, right but it wouldn't get in your way if it had the feature - you just wouldn't open a tab [15:38] it would because I couldn't open folders to new windiows sith middleclick [15:39] Sysi, so you'd expect the middle click would become new tab - a default option that could be changed back [15:48] what is the default pdf reader recommended for xfce? [15:48] evince is heavy I fear [15:48] llpp? [15:48] urthmover, i'm on xubuntu 11.10 and it comes with evince [15:48] ok Lantizia [15:50] I'm gonna try epdfview [15:51] 4MB vs 40MB [15:51] we'll see if it looks alright [15:53] awesome epdfview is perfect [15:53] thanks for speaking up Lantizia [15:58] Hi all, I need help with sharing folders with samba. I have shared a folder in my network, but when i try to open it from other computer, it need a password and user, Where can I disable it?? [16:01] does anyone know a wireless usd adapter that would work out of the box with wpa personal also being able to work? [16:06] Yes. [16:07] Is TP-LINK TL-WN422G [16:07] By Atheros. [16:07] k [16:07] thank you [16:07] Is not expensive also... [16:07] U r welcome. [16:08] i just cant ffind one that will work with wpa under linux [16:08] ive been having hell with it [16:08] thank you thank you [16:08] You may have problem with the Network manager... [16:08] That may also be an issue... [16:08] im sure i dont lol [16:09] Than your router may have ASCII instead of HEX password in WPA. [16:10] its aeu [16:10] wpa 2 personal [16:10] aes i mean [16:10] typo [16:10] I have solved my network prolemas, other question is how can I run a .jar file if it doesn't have the option of make it executable? D: [16:12] java -jar filename.jar [16:12] Try that... [16:16] it works :D, thanks [16:16] U r welcome 2. [16:16] :) [16:17] i have to run it with this always? [16:18] You can link to it... [16:19] ln -s [16:22] or a "shortcut" in menu with that [16:23] A launcher. [16:23] Leftclink on desktop - Create launcher... [16:24] command java -jar [16:24] working directory /dir/yourfile.jar [16:26] ok [16:29] Is an official from Xubuntu arround here? [16:40] CiPi: how "official" and for what matter? [16:40] Lantizia: I think I can't configure it on nautilus or dolphin, I think pcmanfm still uss HAL [17:01] Hello [17:33] hi 2 all [17:34] heed help( [17:35] mkisofs -D -r -V «$IMAGE_NAME» -cache-inodes -J -l -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -o ../myubuntu-10.04.iso <-I correctly entered? or bug === CiPi is now known as Cipi [17:57] where have all the options that vinagre used to have gone? [17:58] i know the ubuntu team thing removing all the features is a good idea, but it is really irritating when you can't set the remote desktop resolution [17:58] could have been upstream [17:58] im not missing anything... [17:58] weird [17:59] vinagre --geometry ?? [18:00] you used to be able to set it in the ui, not from the cli [18:01] i dont recall that [18:02] but, i ran the LTS til this cycle mostly, so i could have missed something in 10.10 or 11.04 [18:21] it was 11.10 that vinagre changed from a v2 to a v3 === Cipi is now known as CiPi [19:56] what's the difference between xubuntu and xfce login? [19:57] Benkinooby: the layout of panels at the first login [19:58] Benkinooby: xfce one will use the xfce defaults, xubuntu will use defaults that are more similar to ubuntu === CiPi is now known as cipi [20:22] would there be a differnec in result when isntalling xubuntu or using ubuntu minimal and the istlal xubuntu-desktop? [20:23] Benkinooby: probably not much difference [20:33] contains xubuntu the ubuntu sftware center too? [20:33] and this ubuntu one stuff? [20:35] Benkinooby: yes [20:37] baizon, so if i don't want it i'd have to go for ubuntu minimal and then isntall xubunut-desktop? [20:40] Benkinooby: maybe install xfce not the xubuntu-desktop meta package [20:44] well_laid_lawn, the packages list says it xubuntu-desktop relies on software center [20:45] Benkinooby: you want the software center? [20:45] well_laid_lawn, no [20:46] Benkinooby: then you'll need to use something other then xubuntu-desktop [20:46] like install xfce + apps you want [20:46] well_laid_lawn, yep... that's what i'll do [20:46] cheers [20:46] well_laid_lawn, but i will start from the ubuntu minimal cd [20:47] Benkinooby: I do that [20:47] :) [20:47] it's a good learning experience [20:47] on this system i use ubuntu minimal and fluxbox [20:48] but i hope that xfce will bring most auto-things (liek auto mount, power management,...) so that i don'T have to add them manually like i had to with fluxbox [20:49] it should set things up right as it is a desktop environment [20:49] fluxbox is just a window manager [20:49] well_laid_lawn, yep... hm, no "make startup disk" doesn'T like minimal iso :( [20:50] Benkinooby: what doesn't like it? [20:50] well_laid_lawn, i con't choose it as iso in the disk creator [20:51] Benkinooby: checked the iso? [20:51] !md5 [20:51] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [20:52] md5 is ok [20:53] well_laid_lawn, if i want to add it to the isos it won't go [20:53] Hi I have a question [20:54] Benkinooby: maybe the iso isn't ok - check it first [20:54] !hi | xubuntu551 [20:54] xubuntu551: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [20:55] I am currently installing xubuntu as we speak but I am curious, I am installing on a different system then the one I want to run it on because the dvd drive wasnt working on the computer this is meant for [20:55] is it like windows where you can't swap it around between computers?? [20:58] bah, how to disable this awfull nautilus, grabbing desktop from xfdesktop in LTS ? [20:58] xubuntu551: you can swap the hdd's ok [20:59] nikolam: use nautilus --no-desktop [21:00] I guess I would need to make script doing that instead of /usr/bin/nautilus ? [21:00] since i do not even start it, it is there by himself started [21:00] probably is in a saved session [21:01] use exo-preferred-applications to set up nautilus --no-desktop [21:01] I see it in "session and startup" in xfce settings [21:01] remove it from there then [21:02] I wish I could. It seems non-editable [21:04] but pstree is saying xfce4-session is starting it. So yes, seems I need to configure some xfce file or logout without remembering session... [21:08] nikolam: I think you'll have to remove it from sessions and startup [21:08] try the settings editor [21:10] * nikolam would like to understand what in its startup invokes nautilus in first place. [21:13] at a guess it could be the ubuntu login manager [21:28] hi, is there a way to see the full window content instead of the windows borders only when alt-tabbing. i'd need it to differentiate differente windows of the same program [21:33] Benkinooby: with default window manager, no [21:33] :( [21:35] I also have multiple (say 7 xfdesktop processes running, too :) [21:36] I can kill them one by one with kill -9 pid but it seems they accumulate somehow. Maybe because I used to get xfce desktop instead of gnome, by kill xfdesktop to restart it. [21:41] I fixed nautilus starting, by turning ON "Display chooser on login" under General>Session Chooser in Session and startup Xfce settings. [21:41] And I made/named new session and now nautilus is gone :D [21:42] Question: Is it possible to upgrade from a broken 9.04 to 11.10 using the 11.10 cd? [21:43] After that I turned it off, saved session on logout and on next loging, in, .. it behaves :) [21:47] hmm. [22:53] hello, Does compiz work on the xde interface? [22:53] yep [22:53] !compiz [22:53] Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz [22:54] hmmmm, its not working for e :-/ [22:54] me* [23:13] hello, i have compiz installed on xubuntu and i cant get the desktop cube to work, any ideas? [23:13] !compiz | seanmc98 [23:13] seanmc98: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz [23:13] everything else works but the desktop cube though [23:13] just didnt know if there was someone in here willing to help [23:14] we generally don't know much about compiz, try at #compiz [23:14] ok thanks TheSheep [23:18] was just wondering: are there supposed to be up/down arrows for the scroll bars in 11.10? i don't seem to have any [23:23] hey i have a issue with my workspaces. it says i have 4 but when i try to move to them it is really only 2. any ideas? [23:25] are you using ctl+alt left/right? [23:25] he's using compiz, not xubuntu [23:25] no compiz is disabled [23:25] for now [23:26] do you have 2 rows of workspaces? [23:26] you may need to use ct+alt+up/down [23:26] to reach the other rows [23:27] i have four boxes up top but only allows me to use 2 of them, if i put the window at the botom left or right that fills up the boxes on the workspace switcher [23:28] nevermond [23:28] looks like it was a compiz issue, odd though why compiz will only allow mw 2 workspaces [23:37] afternoon ladies and gentlemen [23:37] :) [23:38] I was curious if anyone knew how or if it is even possible to configure lightdm to prompt for the username to be typed in [23:38] as opposed to listing them and having you click on them [23:51] found it [23:51] greeter-hide-users=true [23:56] dvance do I need to restart lightdm to apply that change? [23:56] I tested it via a full boot [23:56] but I would imagein so [23:58] alright [23:58] xubuntu is acting funny for me lately, every time I reboot it just sits at the xubuntu screen and I have to TTY and start lightdm manually [23:59] update-rc.d lightdm defaults perhaps?