[00:48] <dobharcru> Hi there, I'm having trouble setting up bluetooth on my inspiron 1525 under ubuntu. When I type sudo dellWirelessCtl --sw_bt 1 --bt 1 into the terminal I get this " File "/usr/sbin/dellWirelessCtl", line 36, in <module>
[00:48] <dobharcru>     locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, '')
[00:48] <dobharcru>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/locale.py", line 531, in setlocale
[00:48] <dobharcru>     return _setlocale(category, locale)
[00:48] <dobharcru> locale.Error: unsupported locale setting." Does anyone know what this means?
[10:46] <ApOgEE> ...
[12:07] <dmtarmey> hello chat room
[12:08] <dmtarmey> hi in using cairi doc and iv li
[12:08] <dmtarmey> iv lost wifi
[12:16] <dmtarmey> hello Robinj and Snicksie
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[15:57] <asterismo> hi people
[15:57] <asterismo> i need help with something
[15:57] <ApOgEE> hi asterismo
[15:57] <ApOgEE> how can i help you?
[15:57] <asterismo> it seems that remote desktop is completely broken in 11.10?
[15:57] <asterismo> is that right?
[15:58] <asterismo> i need to establish remote desktop control in machines inside my local network and outside it
[15:58] <asterismo> but i cannot do any of those
[15:59] <ApOgEE> remote desktop to windows?
[15:59] <asterismo> ubuntu to ubuntu
[15:59] <asterismo> simple as that
[15:59] <asterismo> i do not use windows anymore since 2007
[15:59] <asterismo> but remote desktop used to work... and now it does not}
[16:01] <ApOgEE> so, it is Desktop Sharing in ubuntu 11.10
[16:03] <ApOgEE> asterismo: did you follow this? https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-help/sharing-desktop.html
[16:03] <asterismo> let me see
[16:04] <asterismo> this is vino-preferences, right?
[16:04] <Sidewinder1> asterismo, Just as an aside, I had some problems with ubuntu desktop to in ubuntu desktop, 10.04 version when the monitors were drastically different, ie: std. size mon. to large screen, hi-def monitor...
[16:06] <asterismo> i was able to do this in maverick
[16:07] <ApOgEE> asterismo: desktop sharing... look at this image http://i.thiyagaraaj.com/_/rsrc/1322737375201/articles/articles/remotedesktopsharinginubuntu1110/Ubuntu_Desktop_Sharing_2.png
[16:07] <asterismo> i was forced to migrate to oneiric since gnome 2 is no longer supported
[16:07] <asterismo> so im using XFCE
[16:08] <asterismo> i think it still vino-preferences with another name
[16:08] <ApOgEE> asterismo: i see, i thought u're using unity
[16:08] <asterismo> i have already configured that
[16:08] <asterismo> yeah, sorry
[16:08] <ApOgEE> suppose to show something like this http://i.thiyagaraaj.com/_/rsrc/1322737490298/articles/articles/remotedesktopsharinginubuntu1110/Ubuntu_Desktop_Sharing.png
[16:09] <asterismo> yes
[16:09] <asterismo> that is vino-preferences from the command line
[16:10] <asterismo> but that is not working now
[16:11] <Sidewinder1> asterismo, Also as an aside, 10.04 (which uses gnome2, I think) will be supported (desktop), until 04/2013; it maybe too late if you already upgraded. :-( Please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29 for update and support time periods for the various versions. HTH.
[16:13] <ApOgEE> asterismo: you may try x11vnc on xfce
[16:13] <asterismo> 'll try that
[16:13] <asterismo> thanks}
[16:13] <ApOgEE> asterismo: http://web.nzyes.com/viewthread.php?tid=28004
[16:15] <ApOgEE> asterismo: wait... did u start your vino-server already?
[16:16] <ApOgEE> I found something you may like to try... http://www.ehow.com/how_6980234_enable-xubuntu-remote-desktop.html
[16:17] <ApOgEE> perhaps your vino-server isn't started yet
[16:20] <asterismo> this are last 3 lines of terminal output
[16:20] <asterismo> 02/12/2011 02:19:40 PM Advertising authentication type: 'VNC Authentication' (2)
[16:20] <asterismo> 02/12/2011 02:19:40 PM Advertising security type: 'VNC Authentication' (2)
[16:20] <asterismo> Segmentation fault
[16:21] <asterismo> i guess its not working at all
[16:22] <ApOgEE> which one? vnc or vino-server?
[16:23] <asterismo> vino server
[16:36] <ApOgEE> asterismo: i haven't tried xfce on 11.10 ... currently using 10.04 LTS
[16:37] <ApOgEE> couldn't help much on that, sorry
[16:47] <holstein> asterismo i have that issue from one 10.04 machine as well
[16:48] <holstein> i have added ppa's and messed with it a lot
[16:48] <holstein> vnc work with other 10.04 installs
[16:49] <holstein> vino works that is... so i assume i broke it
[21:10] <suzanna> I have mutliple issues with my networking....usually samba times out; I'm trying to get a remote NAS drive set up to backup to and have been told I need to "map" the drives...also my dual boot netbook gets hostname comfusion...how do I set either witndows or ubuntu to a different IP/MAC to avoid this?
[21:21] <escott> suzanna, what do you mean by hostname confusion?
[21:22] <suzanna> i get text saying hostname could not be resolved and then whatever it is I"m trying to do may or may not work but usually not correctly or in full
[21:23] <suzanna> If I watch the text as it is loading or shutting down I always see the error that hostname could not be resolved
[21:23] <escott> what is the output of hostname and what are the contents of /etc/hosts
[21:30] <suzanna> escott, current output of hostname is  'thread' which is the ubuntu boot hostname
[21:30] <suzanna> 127.0.0.1       localhost
[21:30] <suzanna> 192.168.1.18    thread
[21:30] <suzanna> 192.168.1.10    needle
[21:30] <suzanna> 192.168.1.14    Pattern
[21:30] <suzanna> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[21:30] <suzanna> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[21:30] <suzanna> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[21:30] <suzanna> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[21:30] <suzanna> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[21:30] <suzanna> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[21:31] <suzanna> I haven't listed the windows host in the file yet....it is zipper.....the other boot on this machine
[21:31] <escott> suzanna, you are missing a line 127.0.1.1  thread after the first line (localhost) in /etc/hosts. add that and your hostname warning should go away
[21:32] <suzanna> ohhh....didn't know about that entry....thank you! should I add that to the desktop hosts file as well only using that hostname?
[21:33] <escott> suzanna, as a matter of style you probably should be appending your modifications to the hosts file at the END of /etc/hosts not in the middle
[21:33] <escott> suzanna, not sure what you mean by the desktop hosts file?
[21:33] <suzanna> my other computer...sorry    the host named needle
[21:35] <escott> suzanna, needle should have 127.0.0.1 localhost and 127.0.1.1 needle and then all the ipv6 stuff and then whatever 192 related things you want to put. if your router is any good (ie dd-wrt or the like) you can put all this hostname stuff into it, and then use dhcp on your local network. save you a fair bit of work syncing hosts files
[21:36] <suzanna> escott so is this better?    127.0.0.1       localhost
[21:36] <suzanna> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[21:36] <suzanna> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[21:36] <suzanna> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[21:36] <suzanna> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[21:36] <suzanna> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[21:36] <suzanna> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[21:36] <suzanna> 127.0.1.1       thread
[21:36] <suzanna> 192.168.1.18    thread
[21:36] <suzanna> 192.168.1.10    needle
[21:36] <suzanna> 192.168.1.14    Pattern
[21:37] <escott> the 127.0.1.1 is a standard required line so i would recommend 127.0.0.1, then 127.0.1.1 then the ipv6 then #non-standard modifications to /etc/hosts follow
[21:38] <escott> suzanna, the 127.0.1.1 was relatively new and caught a lot of people off guard (including you it seems) so its helpful to be very clear about what is standard and coming from the stock install, and what you are doing manually
[21:38] <suzanna> okay gotcha on that......as far as router...I'm dual router.....a netgear for networking and the motorola surfboard for modem/gateway....but networking is disabled onit
[21:40] <escott> suzanna, you don't have to do anything with the netgear, its just if you wanted to you could do so. the thing to keep in mind is that your /etc/hosts now defines thread as being *.18, but the assignment of that ip is more than likely dictated by the netgear. so it would make sense to tell netgear to always put the mac address of your computer on *.18, and then to run a dhcp server that forwards dhcp requests but identifies thre
[21:40] <escott> ad as being on *.18
[21:41] <suzanna> escott, I have static IPs assigned to everything except cell phones at the netgear  router
[21:41] <escott> right now if the netgear decided to put thread on *.19 then your local network would be broken and you would have to update /etc/hosts on 3 different machines
[21:41] <escott> if its not a big deal for you then dont worry about it
[21:42] <escott> so that leaves the only problem as the NAS correct?
[21:42] <escott> and resolving that really depends a lot on what particular NAS it is and how it is configured
[21:42] <suzanna> except the windows host....also uses the same IP and mac as thread.....is that an issue I need to worry about
[21:43] <suzanna> the NAS is an Iomega Home Media drive with cloud
[21:43] <escott> so you want the dual boot to have a different ip address and hostname?
[21:44] <suzanna> I don't care if the windows is part of the network at all.....I can access those files from thread and if I need them elsewhere should be able to copy them to Pattern (NAS) for access
[21:44] <escott> suzanna, you could certainly use some tools to tell the network card to use a different MAC address, but im not sure if that change would be permanent across reboots, and I don't know how to change MAC addresses in windows. you might end up having to hook into the windows boot process (however that works) and run some command to set the MAC
[21:45] <escott> suzanna, windows does have a hosts file and you could enter thread pattern into that.
[21:46] <escott> suzanna, if your only concern is that you are defining the network, but windows doesn't know the names you are assigning thats easy. if you want the same hardware to have two different hostnames depending upon what os it is running thats more challenging
[21:46] <suzanna> well then I'll leave it be.....as far as NAS.....Their software is compatabile and can be installed on thread (32 bit) but won't work on the 64 bit computer
[21:47] <suzanna> so I need help getting local access to the shares and firguring out how to use the remote drive for backups, etc
[21:49] <escott> i dont know anything about the iomega. presumably it has some kind of web interface at https://Pattern
[21:50] <escott> and it more than likely is exporting a samba share. what software do they have you install on thread to work with this device?
[21:54] <suzanna> escott, sorrry....dealing with low blood sugar as well as slow netbook...working on thesoftware answer.....
[21:56] <escott> suzanna, its not a problem
[21:58] <suzanna> escott, the software is called Iomega Storage Manager.....version for linux supports Debian, redhat, etc, but not ubuntu specifically
[21:59] <suzanna> yes it is samba based
[21:59] <escott> i really hate when companies do that. there are perfectly adequate integrated solutions that their software is based on
[22:00] <suzanna> but my samba is still sporadic....I get a lot of time outs when trying to connect to samba shares
[22:00] <escott> in any case i doubt theres is doing much, you could probably install their debian version, but why bother, i doubt it will clear up the underlying samba issues
[22:00] <escott> suzanna, does the iomega box go into automatic power saving?
[22:01] <suzanna> I think it has that option but I don't believe I enabled it
[22:02] <suzanna> my goal is to have it on 24/7 but not my pcs....then if I need to access information remotely the NAS is up and available without the pcs needing to be on
[22:02] <escott> so we have a buffalo device, and there is a windows client which is a very simple little wrapper around windows samba shares, and a wake on lan packet generator
[22:02] <suzanna> huh?
[22:02] <escott> all i need to do is pump a bunch of wakeonlan packets at the device, and it comes out of its sleep state, i would investigate if you need to do that with your iomega device
[22:03] <escott> especially if you are noticing a pattern to the timeouts with samba
[22:03] <escott> like it times out when your other computers are off, but works when the computer with the iomega software installed is on
[22:04] <suzanna> so it might be going into sleep mode and not responding when it should
[22:04] <escott> i would not be surprised if thats all their "debian/redhat" client does
[22:04] <escott> send the magic packets, wait while the thing powers up, then start trying to communicate over samba
[22:05] <suzanna> okay.....that would likely explain why the HP cannot access the share for network storage even with their software going
[22:06] <suzanna> if it were a blank generiic remote drive what would be the easiest way to access and use it?
[22:06] <escott> http://iomega.nas-central.org/wiki/Category:Home_Media
[22:07] <suzanna> awww...have the cloud version....small difference but it is different
[22:08] <suzanna> but I willl look at the wiki...need all the info I can get
[22:09] <escott> afraid i cant seem to find much about the device. i would investigate the software that you have installed on thread. i bet you can figure out what it is doing by looking at that
[22:10] <suzanna> ohhh....the wiki talks about installing kernels and using apt-get.....gonna be interesting and likely helpful
[22:11] <suzanna> iomega tells me that it will not support any server apps......but they have a built in media server and mail server although I haven't found anything about accessing that yet
[22:12] <escott> the wiki is fairly clear thats not a good approach to take, you would also lose the cloud sync features
[22:12] <suzanna> basically the software provices a control panel for setting on the drive and in windows it facilitatess mapping each sare as a network drive so they are in your local file system
[22:13] <escott> can you point me to a link for their software
[22:13] <suzanna> yeah....I'm not looking to reformat and install a kernel...too much work
[22:13] <suzanna> give me a minute and I'll have it for you!
[22:22] <suzanna> escott, I'm still here...this thing is just dragging....lol  really need that full backup so I can wipe & reformat....
[22:23] <suzanna> https://iomega-eu-en.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/26108
[22:23] <suzanna> now if I recall they might go through a log in before you get to the actual link....let me know if so I'll log in and repost link
[22:26] <suzanna> https://iomega-eu-en.custhelp.com/app/answers/custom_detail/a_id/28277https://iomega-eu-en.custhelp.com/app/answers/custom_detail/a_id/28277
[22:26] <suzanna> oops....double copied
[22:27] <suzanna> http://iomega.com/support/life_checkup/linux/setup-1.2.4.45773.bin
[22:27] <escott> suzanna, yeah it wants me to sign in. if you take that deb you downloaded and run dpkg --contents filename.deb it will say what the contents are
[22:27] <suzanna> That is the actual download link
[22:29] <suzanna> well as you can see its a .bin will dpkg work the same way iwth it?
[22:29] <escott> ok downloading now
[22:29] <escott> ill look into what is inside it
[22:30] <suzanna> okay.....compiling and figuring out what kind of file to do what to is something I need classes in
[22:34] <escott> so this thing is just a zip, and you can unzip it
[22:36] <escott> god i hate stuff like this... there are sooo many problems with what they are shipping, including that it probably won't work on 11.10 and higher
[22:36] <suzanna> and then it is supposed to install itself.....did fine and dI have panel shortcut that opens the program....but the shares are still not accessible through file manager
[22:37] <suzanna> its funny how hard they work to make open source ugly isn't it
[22:40] <escott> it always makes more work for themselves in the long term, because when we dont know what it does we cant fix it
[22:41] <escott> there is a file in that bin (when you unzip it) called pcloudd
[22:41] <escott> ill bet that does the wakeup stuff
[22:42] <suzanna> that actually is the setup for the "cloud" which is just the new way to have access over the internet and share files with your chosen few
[22:42] <suzanna> It gives you an actual "cloud" application....LOL
[22:43] <escott> alternately you could just run a local traffic monitoring tool on the machine which has this software installed
[22:43] <suzanna> so you can have ubuntu cloud, apple cloud windows cloud, personal cloud.....yikes
[22:43] <escott> that may be the easiest approach
[22:43] <suzanna> traffic monitoring?
[22:44] <suzanna> I searched through some of those types of apps....but wasn't sure whatI would want or need or why
[22:44] <escott> but it is definitely wakeonlan related. the pcloudd has numerous references to "keep alive" packets
[22:45] <suzanna> so the traffic monitoring would be something to wake the thing up when a "call" comes in?
[22:46] <escott> so i would turn on the machine that works
[22:46] <escott> and then install wireshark, and then close everything else network related
[22:46] <escott> so no browser, no chat applications etc. so that the only thing running is the application that is trying to talk to the iomega
[22:46] <escott> and then start up wireshark
[22:47] <escott> you should be able to see what your computer is sending to the iomega device
[22:47] <escott> and the keep alive packet (assuming there is one) will be something repeated every few minutes-seconds
[22:47] <suzanna> okay....does it matter whether I'm sending viea the web access or the local access?
[22:47] <suzanna> *via
[22:48] <escott> so for this you dont want to be using the samba device or using the web access of the iomega device
[22:48] <escott> you dont really want to be interacting with the iomega device
[22:48] <escott> you just want to see what the iomega software sends to the device to make it ready for you to be able to access it with samba
[22:48] <escott> does that make sense?
[22:49] <suzanna> Yes I think so.....so not the windows...but hopefully thread here will work....wireshark....wonder if I still have it installed
[22:50] <escott> you could do this from windows and use whatever wireshark there is for windows
[22:50] <escott> it doesnt really matter
[22:50] <suzanna> Its okay....sounds like a plan.....between cleaning up hosts file and this maybe I will see what I need to do next!
[22:51] <suzanna> Thank you so very much for your time and brain!
[22:52] <suzanna> I'm off to try this out!...
[23:33] <kristian-aalborg> hi
[23:33] <kristian-aalborg> is there a way to get rid of the XP hidden partiotion without DBAN or so?
[23:33] <JackyAlcine> o/
[23:35] <kristian-aalborg> hi JackyAlcine
[23:35] <Unit193> GParted won't do?
[23:35] <Unit193> Also, may need to update drub
[23:36] <JackyAlcine> or Disk Manager.
[23:37] <JackyAlcine> s/drub/grub