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dholbachgood morning08:07
mainerrorMorning.08:54
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om26erbug 885544 anyone have thoughts?12:35
webbugsLaunchpad bug 885544 in unity (Ubuntu) "Pressing OS Key shows Lens in FullScreen Apps/Games" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88554412:35
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AlanBellom26er: you can change or turn off the hotkey in unity preferences in ccsm14:13
AlanBellI did that as the host was grabbing it when working in VMs14:13
AlanBellI think that is a reasonable solution to someone accidentally pressing it14:13
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mhall119AlanBell: do you happen to have a Pencil template for Phone/Tablet too?18:13
AlanBellno, but I did find a great android sketching collection18:27
AlanBellhttp://code.google.com/p/evoluspencil/ download available here18:28
mhall119AlanBell: I was looking for something to mockup Unity on tablets and phones18:29
AlanBellyes, I was planning on doing that once it was a success in -tv, which I think it is18:31
AlanBellthe android stencil set has a great phone template in it18:31
AlanBellwhat is the aspect ratio of a tablet?18:32
AlanBellthey will need landscape and portrait orientations18:39
mhall119I'd call Pencil a success, yes18:53
jderoseAlanBell: seems most android tablets are 16:9, som 16:10, and i believe the ipad is 4:318:54
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MrChrisDruifHi everyone21:53
MrChrisDruifHow's it going here?21:54
Ronniehey MrChrisDruif, also into design?21:58
MrChrisDruifRonnie; Yeah, just a bit =)21:59
MrChrisDruifWe've got a bit of a design dilemma @ #ubuntu-phone21:59
MrChrisDruifAnd imnichol thought I was the better communicator of the two of us =')22:00
MrChrisDruifSo naturally I laughed, but still here I am ;-)22:00
Ronnie;)22:01
MrChrisDruifimnichol; I know Ronnie from my LoCo22:02
RonnieMrChrisDruif: i didnt know there was a ubuntu-phone project. where can i find some info about it?22:04
MrChrisDruif /join #ubuntu-phone22:04
MrChrisDruifAll the info is in the topic22:04
MrChrisDruifRonnie; you might also like #ubuntu-tv and #ubuntu-tablet22:04
Ronnieoh, these are very wide projects22:05
MrChrisDruifWell, me and imnichol thought we have to do much for ubuntu-tablet22:06
imnicholI think you mean "won't have to do much"22:06
MrChrisDruifYeah, typo over there =)22:07
MrChrisDruifSorry aboot that (Yes, I said that like a Canadian according to South Park ;-) )22:07
Ronniebig difference typo ;)22:07
MrChrisDruifWe can't be all perfect Ronnie & imnichol ;-)22:08
imnichol;)22:08
Ronniei won't even try to be ;)22:08
MrChrisDruifAnyhow, about that design dilemma...22:09
MrChrisDruifWith the current Unity design for Desktop/Tablet we've got no problems. However with the small screens of Phones, we've got an issue22:12
MrChrisDruifUnity is more design for screens in landscape orientation, whereas Phones natural position is portrait orientation22:13
MrChrisDruifimnichol mentioned webos or something like that, which is similar to Unity except for the location of the Unity bar, which is on the bottom. I think it would be a smart thing to do for Ubuntu Phone in portrait mode22:17
MrChrisDruifThought anyone?22:20
AlanBelldunno, sketch up a few options and show them to sabdfl22:37
MrChrisDruifThat might be a good idea22:39
sabdflhello22:43
sabdflissue with bottom launcher is density and width22:44
sabdflalso, thumb flex22:45
sabdflperhaps an android app to test on your favourite phone?22:45
MrChrisDruifI didn't know sabdfl was here =)22:45
sabdflI AM EVERYWHERE ;-)22:45
MrChrisDruifHaha ='D22:45
MrChrisDruifSo you think we should keep the bar on the long side?22:47
AlanBellMrChrisDruif: there is a set of android templates for pencil which includes a perfectly good empty phone frame to draw stuff in22:47
MrChrisDruif(There are pro's and con's to either decision I think)22:47
AlanBellworkspace switcher is important on a phone22:48
imnicholIs it/22:49
imnichol*Is it?22:49
AlanBellmore important than on a TV22:49
AlanBellpossibly22:49
MrChrisDruifYes, you want to switch applications regularly on a phone22:49
imnicholBut that doesn't mean switching workplaces22:49
MrChrisDruifAnd on a phone they should be full screen22:49
AlanBelltrue imnichol22:49
imnicholIf all apps are full screen, there's no reason to have workspaces22:50
MrChrisDruifWell, I think there is =)22:50
AlanBellI was actually thinking about my android home page with 5 swipeable pages of apps22:50
imnicholThat's a different thing that I actually agree with22:50
AlanBell7 pages actually22:50
imnicholMy pre has 322:50
MrChrisDruifYou can switch workspaces more easily then apps on the same screen I think22:50
AlanBellwith widgets and app launcher buttons22:50
MrChrisDruifTo lure users to the Ubuntu Phone things like widget are pretty useful/necessary22:51
MrChrisDruifI think22:52
MrChrisDruifAlanBell; do you happen to know where to find those templates of android phone for Pencil?23:21

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