[03:02] <ojwb> is there an easy way to take an "alternate" ISO and include the updates since the release?
[03:02] <ojwb> and produce a new ISO image
[03:02] <mwhudson> it's probably distressingly hard
[03:03]  * ojwb wondered if creating a second repo on the ISO would actually be easiest
[03:03] <mwhudson> the current process for producing an iso involves baling twine
[03:03] <mwhudson> aiui
[03:04] <ojwb> and perhaps then nuke the original packages for space
[03:05] <chilts> ojwb: is this because a dist upgrade from where the newly installed image would be too slow?
[03:05] <ojwb> not sure about "too slow" but it does make it take longer
[03:08] <ojwb> for LTS releases, they do at least roll up point versions
[03:20] <ojwb> hmm, I wonder if I can just unpack, fiddle with the pool, run dpkg-scanpackages, sign stuff
[03:53]  * ajmitch stabs unity through its black heart
[03:56] <ajmitch> thumper: sorry, there doesn't appear to be a crash dump to submit from unity dying on me again
[04:04] <G> ojwb: is this for local installs or for sharing with others I wonder?
[04:18] <thumper> what's happening
[04:55] <ojwb> G: local stuff
[04:55] <G> ojwb: I do some whacky stuff with nginx, and just use a PXE image, point it to nginx, and install newist stuff that way
[04:56] <ojwb> uhuh
[04:56] <ojwb> not sure that's really an improvement from what we already have - i was aiming for less fetching of packages across the network
[04:56] <ojwb> rather than more
[04:57] <G> ojwb: basically nginx proxy cache's pool/ etc, and proxy_pass (& caches) the repodata
[04:57] <G> ojwb: depends, because I only fetch once over the internet, but many times over LAN
[04:58] <G> (I know apt-proxy/apt-cache can do that, but I don't like either, and the server that is doing it isn't running Ubuntu yet
[05:01] <ojwb> i think I still prefer an ISO image with stuff on
[05:01] <ojwb> less to go wrong
[05:01] <ojwb> and for me to have to debug remotely
[05:02] <G> yeah, was just throwing it out there
[05:02] <ojwb> worth thinking about - network probably beats DVD these days
[05:03] <G> (I did the same for when I was using Fedora everywhere at home too, but the RH-repo structure is by far messier
[06:44] <hads> G: Stock arrived, but umm... it seems I ordered 2 UY2 connectors instead of 200.
[06:44] <ojwb> better than order 100 times too many I guess
[06:45] <hads> Valid point.
[06:45] <ojwb> if poorly typed
[06:48] <hads> Must have been tired this morning. Ordered a 15m cable AND a 20m cable but was only meant to order either or.
[06:49] <ojwb> the next few days could be interesting I guess
[07:37] <G> hads: oh whoops
[07:40] <G> TelstraClear on twitter: "Due to unprecedented demand, some of you may be experiencing intermittent or slow internet..."  - I wonder why
[07:41] <G> hads: I definately need more than 2 of the UY2 connectors, the reason why I said just send a hundred was because I was thinking we'd be able to use them elsewhere (model trains etc)
[07:43] <hads> G: Yeah, I thought I was ordering two packs, turns out it was just two. I'll order two packs on Monday, I hope the extra days delay won't be an issue.
[07:43] <G> hads: nah it's fine
[07:43] <hads> Cool
[07:45] <G> I've got everything else next to me now, but I need to do a bit of prep (such as cleaning/drilling/moving stuff out of the way) work anyway, so I'll just start doing that and do the rest during the week
[07:47] <G> must say, the PDL stuff looks really good too, got the RJ-45 module with the plastic lid etc, fits in with everything else and doesn't look out of place or anything like that
[08:03] <G> hads: btw if you are interested: https://code.launchpad.net/~dev-nigelj/+junk/tv_grab_nz-py
[19:02] <ojwb> morning
[22:16] <lamba> lo all