| AlanBell | is there a siri gtk app? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Azelphur | hehe | 00:00 |
| shauno | but most the reason I buy apple is because I want it to work out of the box. I don't want to be proud of my duct-tape creation anymore | 00:00 |
| Azelphur | AlanBell: dunno, wouldn't be that difficult to make one | 00:00 |
| HOHOHaney | yeah, it would be cool to reverse engineer it | 00:00 |
| AlanBell | it has been reverse engineered and documented somewhere I think | 00:00 |
| AlanBell | http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/11/a-look-at-how-applidium-reverse-engineered-siris-protocol.ars | 00:01 |
| siya | Argh... Running 11.04 w GNOME3, not able to dist-upgrade to 11.10 | 03:54 |
| siya | Something about pinned packages (which I don't have) etc. Can't find any reason... :( | 03:55 |
| siya | Anyone still awake out there w any clue? | 03:55 |
| siya | "sudo aptitude remove nspluginwrapper" (got there by looking at the log files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/) | 04:05 |
| popey | morning | 08:02 |
| daubers | Morning | 08:03 |
| popey | yo | 08:04 |
| daubers | popey: You down with the kids now? | 08:11 |
| DJones | Morning all | 08:11 |
| popey | word | 08:24 |
| danfish | morning | 08:33 |
| danfish | a squirrel chewed through a piece of cat5 I've got on the outside of the house :( | 08:34 |
| danfish | cat5 does not look in anyway nut-like | 08:34 |
| danfish | must have been a myopic squirrel | 08:35 |
| daubers | maybe it was expecting nuts over TCP? | 08:36 |
| daubers | Or just wanted to steal your interwebs to buy nuts on ebay? | 08:36 |
| MartijnVdS | Metal pipe \o/ | 08:37 |
| danfish | daubers: so if I open up the wifi for them thay should leave the cable alone! | 08:45 |
| MartijnVdS | danfish: only if you tell them the passwords | 08:45 |
| MartijnVdS | but you'd be nuts if you did that | 08:45 |
| danfish | quite | 08:46 |
| daubers | danfish: OR! You could just give them some nuts to go away | 08:48 |
| daubers | Might be cheaper | 08:49 |
| daubers | Or use PoE :D | 08:49 |
| daubers | *nom* *nom* *nom* *BANG* | 08:49 |
| MartijnVdS | PoE is great, I'm going to configure some PoE access points tomorrow :) | 08:49 |
| MartijnVdS | Providing wifi to a camping in a forest | 08:49 |
| danfish | daubers: haha | 08:51 |
| MartijnVdS | daubers: too bad PoE is only 48V DC | 08:51 |
| danfish | I wonder what squirrel tastes like? | 08:51 |
| MartijnVdS | danfish: Nutty | 08:51 |
| MooDoo | morning all | 08:55 |
| MooDoo | it's a bit cold this morning :S | 09:01 |
| danfish | crisp and sunny here :) | 09:02 |
| MooDoo | cold on the bike :) | 09:07 |
| oimon | i asked a question in the irc channel for a certain fashionable distro about how to check some settings, and got the fanboy answer, which was essentially, don't worry about it, $distro is $otherdistro done right! | 09:20 |
| oimon | i found out that was certainly not the case | 09:21 |
| danfish | ooh, nice. My current fav android ROM are getting their ICS build ready http://t.co/afzWeCfL | 09:23 |
| * oimon wants ICS on touchpad NOW | 09:24 | |
| * MartijnVdS has ICS on his phone | 09:27 | |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ Galaxy Nexus | 09:27 |
| MooDoo | MartijnVdS: what phone and cm9? | 09:28 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: Galaxy Nexus and stock firmware :) | 09:28 |
| MooDoo | cool | 09:28 |
| oimon | MartijnVdS: thoughts? | 09:33 |
| MartijnVdS | It's huge :) | 09:36 |
| MartijnVdS | but it's fast | 09:37 |
| oimon | solves the android on tablet problem? | 09:39 |
| MartijnVdS | oimon: it's a phone, not a tablet | 09:39 |
| MartijnVdS | I don't have ICS on my Xoom yet | 09:39 |
| MartijnVdS | But honeycomb on Xoom isn't bad either | 09:40 |
| bigcalm | Oh sod | 09:41 |
| bigcalm | I missed yesterday's meeting at lunchtime | 09:41 |
| bigcalm | Hi peeps :) | 09:41 |
| bigcalm | What did I miss? | 09:42 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: you got the taking-over-the-world bit? | 09:42 |
| === awilkins_ is now known as awilkins | ||
| awilkins | Darn, my phone has been listening to this channel jabber all night | 09:43 |
| bigcalm | I always thought that sabdfl was up to something | 09:43 |
| awilkins | New router arrived.... Muahahahaha | 09:44 |
| awilkins | Soon I will have 30Mbit/s of pulsating power bandwidth | 09:46 |
| MartijnVdS | only 30? :P | 09:46 |
| awilkins | I find 10 to be pretty luxurious | 09:46 |
| awilkins | I got 30 because the download throttling thresholds are getting a bit low | 09:47 |
| awilkins | And because my Mother-in-law doesn't hang round the house all day anymore so I saved money by cancelling the unlimited calling package | 09:47 |
| awilkins | More bandwidth for less cash, bargain | 09:48 |
| awilkins | Right, time to lose carrier | 09:49 |
| JamesTait | Merry Friday, everyone! :D | 09:50 |
| MooDoo | TFIF!!! | 09:51 |
| daubers | Oooh, forgot about yesterdays meeting, was with a surveyor looking at a house | 09:52 |
| JamesTait | MooDoo: That about sums it up, yes. :) | 09:54 |
| monsterwizard | I didn't know Iran calls us Little Satan | 09:56 |
| monsterwizard | it's kinda cute | 09:56 |
| andyloughran | howdy | 09:58 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 10:07 |
| MooDoo | morning czajkowski how are you this fine day? | 10:10 |
| czajkowski | ntb | 10:11 |
| czajkowski | just relaxing | 10:11 |
| MooDoo | you in IE now or going later, can't remember what you said | 10:11 |
| czajkowski | plans changed so stayed in London | 10:11 |
| MooDoo | booooooo | 10:11 |
| awilkins | Oooh. | 10:16 |
| awilkins | Well, the web UI is very pretty on it | 10:16 |
| andyloughran | heya | 10:19 |
| andyloughran | awilkins: may I ask what (dont' have the scrollbag ability) | 10:19 |
| awilkins | VirginMedia superhub | 10:19 |
| awilkins | Heard mixed reports of it's goodness | 10:19 |
| awilkins | TBH I'm not sure I want to give up my stalwart Buffalo running OpenWRT | 10:20 |
| awilkins | I shall definitely need to work out how to keep my SSH server on it working | 10:20 |
| * BigRedS has trouble believing anything from Virgin to be good | 10:21 | |
| awilkins | Muhahahah, 30Mbit/s down 3Mbit/s up | 10:21 |
| awilkins | Ahem | 10:21 |
| * awilkins gathers his composure | 10:21 | |
| awilkins | They did implement a "modem mode" | 10:22 |
| awilkins | So you can just turn it into a dumb CM | 10:22 |
| awilkins | Which I'm inclined to use from the get-go | 10:22 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 10:23 |
| popey | i have mine in modem mode and use a different Wireless access point with mine | 10:25 |
| awilkins | popey, I'm probably going to do the same, TBH. | 10:26 |
| awilkins | popey, My existing access point is ancient and only supports ermmm. b? | 10:26 |
| awilkins | I can't keep track of all these letters | 10:26 |
| awilkins | But it runs OpenWRT nicely and gives me a SSH and WOL server | 10:27 |
| awilkins | So I can pretty much get into anything on my network remotely from there, even if it's off | 10:27 |
| awilkins | And apparently, my work laptop can't detect either of my access points now.. ? | 10:28 |
| awilkins | Perhaps this is some unrelated thing | 10:28 |
| awilkins | Or they are jamming each other | 10:28 |
| popey | yeah, mine is a netgear wndr3700 running ddwrt | 10:30 |
| awilkins | Hmm, laptop can't detect the neighbours routers either | 10:33 |
| awilkins | I guess it's soft-borked or something | 10:33 |
| * bigcalm detects poptarts and ingests | 10:34 | |
| awilkins | Ah, unplugging the wire has restored it's ability to see wireless | 10:34 |
| Myrtti | OMG Harry Potter ♥ listening to the last few paragraphs of Deathly Hallows | 10:35 |
| bigcalm | popey: every day is a slipper day | 10:35 |
| awilkins | Survival instinct, I suppose. Or ICT have installed something to stop it bridging our network into a wireless access point | 10:35 |
| gord | i just read an article that EA games has created a "subscription service" for tetris, being part of it you get an "xp booster" so you can "level up" faster... tetris changed from what i played as a kid didn't it. | 10:35 |
| awilkins | gord, that HAS to be satire, surely? | 10:36 |
| bigcalm | Oh my | 10:36 |
| awilkins | Hmm. Superhub network connection 3 times faster than ancient router | 10:37 |
| awilkins | (wireless) | 10:37 |
| awilkins | Decisions, decisions | 10:37 |
| awilkins | urrrrrrrgh | 10:38 |
| AlanBell | bigcalm: I have slippers on right now | 10:38 |
| AlanBell | (and other stuff, to be clear) | 10:38 |
| awilkins | popey, Does your redirect DNS requests to a VM server if they fail? | 10:38 |
| bigcalm | awilkins: when the superhub wigs out (and it will), do you want it to stop you from accessing the rest of the LAN at the same time? | 10:38 |
| awilkins | popey, Or did it, before you put it into modem mode | 10:38 |
| BigRedS | awilkins: that's an opt-out thing with VM AIUI | 10:38 |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: phew | 10:38 |
| BigRedS | AlanBell: Phwoar | 10:39 |
| bigcalm | o.O | 10:39 |
| daubers | gord: I remember playing tetris against my brothers with a cable connecting the two game boys | 10:39 |
| popey | awilkins: i switched thet off | 10:39 |
| awilkins | popey, Isn't that what earned Verizon so much ire.... honestly | 10:40 |
| * popey shrugs | 10:40 | |
| popey | i switched it off and no longer care ☺ | 10:40 |
| bigcalm | Same here | 10:40 |
| awilkins | If it's mediated by the hub, it goes into modem mode tout suite | 10:40 |
| popey | mediated? | 10:41 |
| popey | it isnt, its a setting at the VM end which you can opt out of | 10:41 |
| awilkins | Well, doesn't the hub do your DNS reqeusts? | 10:41 |
| bigcalm | You have to enable/disable it via the VM site | 10:41 |
| awilkins | Ah | 10:41 |
| popey | and no, my modem doesnt do my dns requests | 10:41 |
| bigcalm | You'll get a link to it upon the 1st DNS SNAFU | 10:41 |
| popey | my desktop has dns servers setup directly | 10:41 |
| bigcalm | I do like DHCP, it means I have to fiddle with the multitude of devices just a little bit less | 10:43 |
| * awilkins turned it off | 10:43 | |
| awilkins | Yick | 10:43 |
| Daviey | right, but you can put a different dns server in dhcp :) | 10:43 |
| awilkins | That's better | 10:43 |
| awilkins | That would have totally fubared some of my PAC scripts amongst other things | 10:44 |
| bigcalm | I let my Linksys router handle DNS and DHCP | 10:44 |
| Daviey | bigcalm: I thin you'll get crap odds on that bet! | 10:44 |
| awilkins | Yup, all my IP addresses are defined in the hosts file of my router | 10:44 |
| bigcalm | Daviey: its running ddwrt, I'm happy | 10:45 |
| awilkins | Fill up /etc/hosts and /etc/ethers and wake-on-lan works very nicely | 10:45 |
| Daviey | bigcalm: Are you using ipv6? | 10:45 |
| awilkins | Do VM even offer IPv6? | 10:45 |
| bigcalm | Daviey: not yet, no | 10:45 |
| bigcalm | awilkins: no | 10:45 |
| awilkins | Or do you have to fuddle with tunnels | 10:45 |
| Daviey | bigcalm: you used to be cool, not now. | 10:46 |
| bigcalm | Haha | 10:46 |
| oimon | youtube changed the homepage and doesn't let me remove alan pope's poledancing video from my front page :( | 10:46 |
| danhg_ | mrevell | 10:46 |
| bigcalm | Computers are a tool for me these days. My tinkering days are a little behind me | 10:46 |
| mrevell | Hey danhg_ | 10:47 |
| awilkins | Well, modem mode, here we go. Back in a mo. | 10:47 |
| awilkins | (dem) | 10:47 |
| bigcalm | :) | 10:47 |
| andyloughran | I'm upgrading to the VM SuperHub on the 7th Dec. | 10:48 |
| andyloughran | Currently still using a Surfboard 4100 | 10:48 |
| bigcalm | andyloughran: and the 1st thing you'll do is switch it into modem only mode? ;) | 10:48 |
| andyloughran | I need to read back through the conversation | 10:49 |
| * andyloughran doesn't have the benefit of scrollback | 10:49 | |
| andyloughran | er - any particular reason why? | 10:49 |
| * HOHOHaney hasn't felt the need to do that yet | 10:50 | |
| awilkins | It seems modem-mode involves reflashing the firmware, it's been downloading something for some time now..... | 11:00 |
| awilkins | Thank heavens for 3G | 11:00 |
| greg__ | just joined, you referrinf to the superhub? | 11:00 |
| awilkins | Yes | 11:00 |
| popey | 15 | 11:00 |
| popey | bah | 11:00 |
| greg__ | awilkins I asked to join the beta test team on the virgin media forums, I have had it for a while | 11:01 |
| awilkins | Modem mode was just there in the options, didn't want to have to reconfigure all my network | 11:02 |
| awilkins | ... still downloading | 11:02 |
| Myrtti | popey: how long has it been again since I've last declared my undying love to you? ♥ (re: mailing list) | 11:02 |
| popey | haha | 11:03 |
| MooDoo | o_O | 11:03 |
| * Myrtti bows to popey | 11:03 | |
| MooDoo | steady on Myrtti you'll give him a big head | 11:04 |
| Myrtti | MooDoo: I thought his hairdo takes care of that already | 11:04 |
| Myrtti | no need for me to do anything | 11:04 |
| MooDoo | you being nice will make it bigger lol | 11:04 |
| Myrtti | MooDoo: he knows me and knows what I mean, I doubt it really has any effect on his head | 11:05 |
| MooDoo | Myrtti: i know i'm just teasing :) | 11:05 |
| bigcalm | Indeed, nice post | 11:05 |
| popey | borders on STFU but hey ho | 11:06 |
| BigRedS | Oooh. A mailing list post about Unity. Fancy that :) | 11:07 |
| davmor2 | morning funksters | 11:08 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: prod | 11:08 |
| HOHOHaney | THAT'S IT, I'M MOVING TO ARCH! | 11:08 |
| BigRedS | Nono, it's Mint this month | 11:08 |
| andyloughran | :p | 11:08 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: brat | 11:08 |
| oimon | i'm on using linux munge..new distro - heard of it? | 11:08 |
| davmor2 | HOHOHaney: No be a rebel use Ubuntu | 11:08 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: czajkowski do you two need to go on the naughtystep? | 11:09 |
| MooDoo | FEDORA ftw! | 11:09 |
| * HOHOHaney ho ho ho | 11:09 | |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: I'm already there dude | 11:09 |
| MooDoo | hehe | 11:09 |
| HOHOHaney | http://open.spotify.com/track/5T9bJG4tMNms1fsib8Azvq :3 Christmas song of the day | 11:09 |
| HOHOHaney | not terrible like yesterday's, promise | 11:09 |
| davmor2 | HOHOHaney: I bet it is | 11:09 |
| * HOHOHaney sulks | 11:10 | |
| daubers | Oooh, I saw emmy the great live a couple of years ago | 11:11 |
| Myrtti | you know what's really funny tho | 11:11 |
| Myrtti | I've used Xubuntu for years | 11:11 |
| MooDoo | Myrtti: lee evans? | 11:11 |
| davmor2 | My xmas pick for the day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tNbsQ8eDbA | 11:11 |
| HOHOHaney | I saw her live a month or so ago | 11:11 |
| Myrtti | with 11.10 I moved back to Ubuntu :-D | 11:11 |
| HOHOHaney | was good | 11:11 |
| bigcalm | Myrtti: you don't need multi monitor support then? :) | 11:11 |
| Myrtti | bigcalm: no, but on the tablet Unity/GnomeShell are quite nice. Better than Gnome2, but still need work | 11:12 |
| Myrtti | and then Unity grew on me and I decided to have it on the laptop as well | 11:12 |
| daubers | bigcalm: I use unity on multi monitors..... | 11:12 |
| bigcalm | I agree. And I'm looking forward to returning to Unity once I can use it on 3 monitors without it being silly | 11:12 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: I saw the demo of the upcoming multimonitor support trust me it will be AWESOME! | 11:12 |
| * daubers obviously uses his monitors wrong compared to everyone else | 11:13 | |
| bigcalm | davmor2: goodo :) | 11:13 |
| bigcalm | daubers: how so? | 11:13 |
| * HOHOHaney sits atop his xmonad-built ivory tower | 11:13 | |
| HOHOHaney | still figuring out multi-montior support down there? | 11:13 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: by the way you'll like my xmas pick | 11:13 |
| * HOHOHaney quaffs some port | 11:13 | |
| daubers | bigcalm: People complain about multimonitor support, but I've not had an issue..... | 11:14 |
| bigcalm | My added complication is my 2nd monitor is rotated 90 deg | 11:14 |
| Myrtti | daubers: Intel or AMD? | 11:14 |
| BigRedS | I always think that if X Just Worked it'd take a lot of the fun out of Linux for many people | 11:14 |
| daubers | Myrtti: nvidia | 11:14 |
| Myrtti | ooo, you're speshul | 11:14 |
| bigcalm | nvidia is special? I have 2 nvidia gfx cards in this machine to get something close to what I need | 11:15 |
| gord | multimonitor works pretty well on my nvidia system and intel :( | 11:15 |
| gord | easier to fix things when they break for you too | 11:15 |
| daubers | gord: We must be doing it wrong or something | 11:17 |
| gord | the process kind of sucks on everything though, i just want to plug in a second monitor and have everything magically work | 11:20 |
| daubers | if wishes were horses, we'd all be eating steak | 11:21 |
| oimon | anyone else tried the unity launcher on the bottom yet? | 11:22 |
| oimon | here it is in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYH13qQZZe8 | 11:25 |
| MooDoo | think i quite like it at the bottom | 11:26 |
| oimon | me too | 11:27 |
| oimon | it's the small things that make some people happy :) | 11:27 |
| === Window_Licker is now known as WindowLicker | ||
| === WindowLicker is now known as Window_Licker | ||
| popey | oimon: what resolution is your screen? | 11:39 |
| oimon | thats my kitchen sink box | 11:40 |
| oimon | probably 1280x1024 | 11:40 |
| oimon | it's got every DE going installed on it | 11:40 |
| popey | heh | 11:40 |
| popey | mine's 1920x1080, makes no sense having the launcher at the bottom | 11:41 |
| oimon | my other box is 1920x1080 | 11:41 |
| oimon | my docky is at the bottom on it | 11:41 |
| oimon | i tried docky on the side and hated it | 11:42 |
| dwatkins | What's a DE, oimon? | 11:51 |
| dwatkins | desktop extension? | 11:51 |
| === funkyHat2 is now known as funkyHat | ||
| oimon | desktop environment, e.g. LXDE, Gnome, KDE, etc | 11:52 |
| dwatkins | ah I see | 11:52 |
| dwatkins | What about fvwm, twm, xfce and cde? ;) | 11:52 |
| oimon | i have xfce on there too :) | 11:53 |
| dwatkins | oh, and 4Dwm... | 11:53 |
| oimon | as we approach 12.04 LTS i am trying to decide which distro and DE i will go forward with on my machines | 11:53 |
| oimon | lucid has served me well | 11:53 |
| oimon | but i have tons of PPAs | 11:54 |
| Myrtti | funkyHat: fixed the connection yet? | 11:54 |
| oimon | gnome shell is about to become usable with the extensions so i am tempted | 11:54 |
| funkyHat | Myrtti: it's not a connection issue, I haven't figured out what it is yet though | 11:55 |
| Myrtti | you just flooded all my channels so much I lost track on which channel I'm on | 11:55 |
| funkyHat | ⢁( sorry | 11:56 |
| * dwatkins has joins, parts, quits on ignore in most places | 11:56 | |
| czajkowski | indeed | 11:56 |
| czajkowski | I do also | 11:56 |
| dwatkins | occasionally I'm talking to someone and they disappear, reboot etc. but tab-complete is enough to let me check someone's online. | 11:57 |
| czajkowski | nods | 11:57 |
| Myrtti | I find it difficult to be an op with having them ignored | 11:57 |
| Myrtti | so I don't | 11:57 |
| gord | same reason | 11:57 |
| gord | plus its not too big of an issue 95% of the time | 11:57 |
| funkyHat | After my server reboots irssi seems to go a bit mad. It seems to get started up more than once, then the instances fight each other for my nicks... I guess | 11:57 |
| czajkowski | Myrtti: per channel might help, unless you're an op in here | 11:57 |
| dwatkins | Myrtti: what sorts of things do you need them for, and could you have two logins, one you rarely use but that has them enabled? | 11:57 |
| funkyHat | I'm not sure why it gets started up more than once | 11:57 |
| Myrtti | I don't have them showing up in my irssi status bar tho | 11:58 |
| czajkowski | ah ok | 11:58 |
| Myrtti | czajkowski: I'm an op on all the channels we share and he flooded in | 11:58 |
| Myrtti | including this | 11:58 |
| czajkowski | nods | 11:58 |
| Myrtti | dwatkins: two logins is too much of a hassle, it's not too bad usually. Need to check for joinfloods, banevasion etc | 12:00 |
| dwatkins | ah I see, yes | 12:00 |
| dwatkins | I used to keep a 2nd login to a channel I'm an op on in case I needed to check when someone went on/offline | 12:00 |
| dwatkins | I guess we don't get much ban-evasion there, and when we do it's pretty obvious from the username etc. | 12:01 |
| gord | irc proxies \o/ | 12:01 |
| dwatkins | gord: you mean like running irssi inside a screen session on the other side of the atlantic... *whistles* | 12:01 |
| gord | dwatkins, i mean like running znc or something :) something you connect something else like irssi or xchat or whatever to | 12:01 |
| gord | irssi has a proxy mode itself, its pretty crap though | 12:02 |
| Myrtti | I use the proxy mode to use with a mobile phone client | 12:02 |
| dwatkins | not tried that yet | 12:03 |
| Myrtti | haven't for a long time tho, irssi connectbot is such a nice ssh app so it doesn't really matter anymore | 12:03 |
| dwatkins | I like it when code.google.com pages have a qrcode on them :) | 12:04 |
| gord | is that like an android market link or something? | 12:04 |
| dwatkins | yeah, like this: http://code.google.com/p/irssi-connectbot/ | 12:05 |
| funkyHat | I use the regular connectbot with a saved thing for irssi | 12:05 |
| dwatkins | strange, it doesn't actually work, but I like the idea | 12:05 |
| Myrtti | oh man, I feel blue now | 12:07 |
| MartijnVdS | da ba dee? | 12:07 |
| Myrtti | Harry Potter ;____; | 12:07 |
| czajkowski | aye irssi connectbot is excellent | 12:07 |
| dwatkins | I enjoyed the last HP film, the one before it was rather meh, though. | 12:08 |
| czajkowski | I'm just glad it's all over tbh | 12:08 |
| dwatkins | Also, what's with them touting 3D everywhere? | 12:08 |
| czajkowski | dwatkins: aye why do all films now have to be in £D | 12:08 |
| dwatkins | czajkowski: yeah, to be honest, I was a little glad of that side of ti too. | 12:08 |
| czajkowski | 3D | 12:08 |
| czajkowski | I get that its funky and nice to do | 12:08 |
| czajkowski | but really.... most films dont do it well | 12:08 |
| dwatkins | czajkowski: I think it's the film industry trying to attract people back to the cinema instead of staying at home watching HD movies on their plasma TV | 12:09 |
| gord | i just bought a bunch of 3d movies :P | 12:09 |
| gord | for my hd 3d tv! | 12:09 |
| czajkowski | gord: you would | 12:09 |
| czajkowski | :) | 12:09 |
| * gord stays at home | 12:09 | |
| dwatkins | gord: do you require glasses to watch them? | 12:09 |
| gord | yup | 12:09 |
| MartijnVdS | My TV is 3D-capable, but I don't have 3D glasses | 12:09 |
| Myrtti | I don't think I've seen any of the movies past HP2 | 12:09 |
| MartijnVdS | So no 3D for me | 12:09 |
| MartijnVdS | also, headaches | 12:09 |
| dwatkins | what happens if there are more people than glasses? | 12:09 |
| gord | i get that some people don't like glasses, thats fine, whatever, i don't mind :) | 12:09 |
| czajkowski | MartijnVdS: so why on earth dd you buy one | 12:09 |
| Myrtti | have tried to have read the book before the movie and I just finished 6 and 7 this week | 12:09 |
| gord | they are damn expensive... stood on one once, whoops, £100 down the drain | 12:09 |
| czajkowski | gord: blame the cat next time | 12:10 |
| MartijnVdS | czajkowski: The TV is fine, it just didn't come with 3D glasses :) | 12:10 |
| Myrtti | I hugely dislike the 3D movies in the cinema | 12:10 |
| MartijnVdS | czajkowski: it just has the option for 3D if you decide to buy glasses later | 12:10 |
| MartijnVdS | czajkowski: main reason is the built in satellite tuner though :) | 12:10 |
| czajkowski | Avatar was the best still by far | 12:10 |
| czajkowski | all others have been a massive let down | 12:10 |
| gord | to be honest movies still aren't that great in 3D, there are a few that are absolutely fantastic, but not many. video games are good with 3d :) | 12:10 |
| dwatkins | I find 3D tends to be badly adjusted in cinemas so there's bleed-through from one eye's image to the other | 12:11 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: that might explain the headaches | 12:11 |
| gord | most cinema's will also use regular bulbs instead of the once that are twice as bright, which you need for 3d.. so you get a dim image | 12:11 |
| Myrtti | oh dear | 12:11 |
| Myrtti | just had to check how much the audiobooks would be as CDs | 12:12 |
| Myrtti | what a ripoff | 12:12 |
| dwatkins | ah that's why it's a bit dim, thanks gord | 12:13 |
| czajkowski | really hope they don't ruin pirates of the Caribean by doing 3D in the future | 12:13 |
| * Myrtti spanks gord for a typo | 12:13 | |
| gord | czajkowski, 4 was 3D | 12:14 |
| MartijnVdS | Myrtti: But JK Rowling and Stephen Fry have to eat too! | 12:14 |
| czajkowski | gord: ahhh ddidnt notice that | 12:14 |
| gord | ones/once. same thing! | 12:14 |
| Myrtti | MartijnVdS: I know, that's why I thought of buying them | 12:14 |
| Myrtti | gord: tis not | 12:14 |
| czajkowski | ohh I'd listen to stephen fry tell a story | 12:14 |
| czajkowski | nice soothing voice | 12:14 |
| gord | czajkowski, to be honest... three already ruined pirates of the Caribbean ;) that was a hard movie to make it through... | 12:14 |
| czajkowski | gord: shush or no bickies for you | 12:15 |
| Myrtti | perhaps I'll just save up to get them on Audible | 12:15 |
| dwatkins | I listen to a lot of audio books driving between Edinburgh and London, you can pay 4 pounds a month for a subscription to audible.co.uk and get one free audio book a month. | 12:15 |
| awilkins | Hmm, the red light and misleading uplink flashing wasn't the modem getting a new firmware. | 12:15 |
| dwatkins | saves a lot, that | 12:15 |
| czajkowski | wow ubuntu-uk ml is rather talkative this morning | 12:15 |
| awilkins | Just needed to reboot my router to get DHCP address | 12:15 |
| awilkins | Grragh, just sat waiting for an hour for no reason <-- plonker | 12:16 |
| Myrtti | dwatkins: yeah, I had that for some time but I've cut my excess spending since - I've got loads of audiobooks still in there that I haven't finished so I'm not terribly worried | 12:16 |
| dwatkins | Myrtti: yeah, I have about 4 credits yet to use, but am taking the train there tonight, so may get another one for this trip. | 12:16 |
| Myrtti | now the only splurge I allow myself is Spotify, partly because a friend gave me 40EUR as a present on paypal that had nothing else than spotify payments | 12:17 |
| popey | my tolerance for ubuntu haters is low today ☺ | 12:17 |
| czajkowski | popey: nice replay re trademarks | 12:17 |
| czajkowski | only issue I have with them is it takes more than a week to get a reply from them. but it is the only place to get a definate reply and ok from | 12:18 |
| dwatkins | Myrtti: I'm fearful of Spotify, if you stop subscribing don't you lose your music? | 12:18 |
| popey | yes dwatkins | 12:19 |
| popey | but it's not your music anyway ☺ | 12:19 |
| popey | no commerical music ever really is | 12:19 |
| Myrtti | dwatkins: one of the reasons I keep paying for it, but it doesn't matter to me that much anyway - I know I could get the music cheaper somewhere else - it's the ease of user experience that I pay for | 12:20 |
| Myrtti | a) 95% of the time everything I look for is in Spotify and I don't have to look anywhere else 2) it works on my Ubuntu 3) it works on my phone 4) I can make my own playlists and share them | 12:21 |
| Myrtti | for the same reason I've paid for audible, last.fm and other services in the past | 12:23 |
| dwatkins | I considered investigating Spotify, Sky Music etc. but havn't done so yet. | 12:24 |
| dwatkins | I bought an album by Feist because of the song 1,2,3,4, then realised I prefer the version she did on Sesame Street ;) | 12:24 |
| Daviey | popey: but it's not free software!11! | 12:24 |
| Myrtti | shock horror | 12:25 |
| Myrtti | news at 11 | 12:25 |
| dwatkins | I know I don't own the music on my phone/mp3 player, but I like to be able to listen to it when the label has gone bust or I'm in a tunnel ;) | 12:25 |
| DJones | Anybody interested in these games? http://marathon.sourceforge.net/ | 12:33 |
| andylock1an | wow | 12:35 |
| andylock1an | :D | 12:35 |
| andylock1an | he's back :D | 12:35 |
| andylock1an | :D | 12:35 |
| Myrtti | dwatkins: I happily use Spotify offline | 12:36 |
| === andylock1an is now known as andylockran | ||
| andylockran | well that was a bit of hassle | 12:42 |
| Myrtti | *phew* | 12:47 |
| andylockran | yeah | 12:47 |
| Myrtti | that was a display of *why* I don't ignore joins and quits and such | 12:47 |
| andylockran | how come? | 12:47 |
| gordonjcp | Myrtti: ? | 12:47 |
| Myrtti | `-` joined pretty much all the ubuntu channels there are | 12:48 |
| Myrtti | excess flooded themselves out on the first attempt to announce the world that #ubuntu ops suck, but eventually got k-lined | 12:49 |
| Myrtti | amazing how much excess time and malice people have in the world | 12:49 |
| davmor2 | gord: I think it's gonna be cancelled for december we'll sort out a date for January instead | 12:50 |
| gord | davmor2, no prob, platform rally in early jan though remember | 12:51 |
| davmor2 | gord: we can make it latter it was only early to catter for xmas and parties ect | 12:51 |
| gord | yeah | 12:51 |
| Myrtti | is there any kind of clipboard management for Ubuntu 11.10? | 12:58 |
| Myrtti | or something that you'd recommend? | 12:59 |
| gord | my dash tells me that klipper exists, it has 3/5 stars on software centre | 12:59 |
| Myrtti | klipper sounds like a KDE thing | 12:59 |
| gord | it does ;) it is! | 12:59 |
| gord | maybe glipper? | 12:59 |
| gord | is that a thing? | 12:59 |
| Myrtti | I'll have a look at clipit and glipper then | 12:59 |
| popey | /4/27 | 13:01 |
| popey | bah! | 13:01 |
| awilkins | Did you just accidentally post the Pangolin release date? :-p | 13:02 |
| gord | thats the 26th :P | 13:04 |
| Myrtti | clipit seems to be exactly what I was looking for | 13:04 |
| === bigcalm_ is now known as bigcalm | ||
| dwatkins | Myrtti: yeah, I meant in terms of the streaming-only alternatives, I appreciate you can use Spotify via the app offline if you still have a subscription :) | 13:36 |
| popey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k-QuvfednM I made a video! | 13:36 |
| dwatkins | you make it sound so simple, popey :) | 13:37 |
| dwatkins | do people ask questions on this? | 13:37 |
| andylockran | yeah | 13:39 |
| dwatkins | I'm surprised, although I admit I wasn't aware it actually existed. | 13:40 |
| gord | popey, might want to use the hd version when linking people to it so its not in blur-o-vision. its mostly static images so the hd version doesn't take up much bandwidth | 13:41 |
| popey | gord: I'd rather let people choose resolution themselves | 13:42 |
| popey | if they full screen it then yt will auto switch to HD anyway wont it? | 13:42 |
| popey | good point tho, ta ☺ | 13:42 |
| gord | depends on their settings, some of us (me) disable that because when i switch to fullscreen it goes to a video format that my connection can't handle | 13:42 |
| popey | ah | 13:43 |
| popey | i didnt know you could override that | 13:43 |
| * daubers mqtt-ises a few workshop tools | 13:53 | |
| andylockran | gord: you should do a screencast on it - make it recursive! | 13:53 |
| AlanBell | did youtube just get a lot better? | 13:53 |
| dwatkins | they changed the theme | 13:55 |
| dwatkins | it may also have html5 enabled now | 13:55 |
| dwatkins | not sure if that's still in beta | 13:55 |
| AlanBell | resizing stuff and resolutions seem to have some relationship now, and you can select the resolution when fullscreened | 13:57 |
| dogmatic69 | i have a dir, that when cd into, crashes my pc. load average hits 50 / 60 and ram shoots right up to 4gigs | 14:02 |
| dogmatic69 | any way i can see what is going on in there? | 14:02 |
| dogmatic69 | its a git repo | 14:02 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: I'd force an fsck on the next boot | 14:06 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: what kind of fs are you using? | 14:07 |
| dogmatic69 | default | 14:07 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: ext3? ext4? | 14:07 |
| dogmatic69 | i done sudo su www-data then cd there and its not as bad, still crashed when i did git status | 14:07 |
| dogmatic69 | how could i check that? | 14:07 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: "mount" | 14:08 |
| dogmatic69 | sda1 is ext4 | 14:08 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: sudo touch /forcefsck | 14:10 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: then reboot | 14:10 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: if it's a separate partition, unmount it and fsck | 14:10 |
| dogmatic69 | k, thanks.. brb (if this does not take 5 years) | 14:10 |
| dogmatic69 | that was quick, no errors | 14:15 |
| dogmatic69 | MartijnVdS: http://i.imgur.com/rc9Ql.png | 14:20 |
| === HOHOHaney is now known as Laney | ||
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: what kind of git repo is it? | 14:38 |
| dogmatic69 | just some work code, php | 14:41 |
| dogmatic69 | with some submodules | 14:41 |
| Myrtti | oh man I really really hate Gwibber | 14:44 |
| oimon | Myrtti: does it still suck after the re-write | 14:44 |
| Myrtti | well it sucks bowling balls on 11.10 | 14:46 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: what happens if you create a fresh clone somewhere? | 14:46 |
| oimon | wow, how sad | 14:46 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: does that also exhibit that problem? | 14:46 |
| oimon | i'm still using hotot quite happily for my twitter requirements | 14:46 |
| davmor2 | Myrtti: so add bugs to improve it | 14:46 |
| * MartijnVdS uses chrom | 14:46 | |
| MartijnVdS | e | 14:46 |
| dogmatic69 | MartijnVdS: no, then its fine | 14:47 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: OK, do that, remove the old tree and replace with fresh clone | 14:47 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: you did the fsck? | 14:47 |
| Myrtti | davmor2: it doesn't take away the pain of using it *now* though :-< | 14:47 |
| dogmatic69 | MartijnVdS: there is a branch on the old one that i need | 14:47 |
| Myrtti | perhaps I'll just ... suffer Tweetdeck on Chrome again | 14:47 |
| dogmatic69 | fsck ran fine | 14:47 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: try it from a live CD, maybe that works. | 14:47 |
| dogmatic69 | hmm | 14:47 |
| davmor2 | Myrtti: agreed but it will make it less painful for 12.04 maybe | 14:47 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: Different version of Ubuntu (= different version of FS code) | 14:48 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: I have no idea | 14:48 |
| dogmatic69 | fsck from live cd? | 14:48 |
| dogmatic69 | or view the repo from a live cd | 14:48 |
| gord | just had to google for the command to make a tar file... how do i even get anything done on linux | 15:20 |
| kirrus | gord: by googling? :P | 15:24 |
| Myrtti | hm, is it possible to make the workspace switcher to wrap around in 11.10? | 15:24 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I have a quick Python query... | 15:24 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I have a string: 12345:09876 | 15:25 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I want to return only the bit left of the colon. | 15:25 |
| dogmatic69 | MartijnVdS: using git --git-dir=... i was able to see what is going on. just ditched all the unstaged changes and now i can cd in without the system crashing but terminal is hanging still | 15:25 |
| deej1976 | Myrtti: not in ubuntu by default http://mein-neues-blog.de/xplanetFX/ | 15:25 |
| dogmatic69 | memory usage is going up slowly and load average still at 0.5 | 15:25 |
| dogmatic69 | getting there slowly | 15:26 |
| dogmatic69 | think i found the issue... http://i.imgur.com/AJ10h.jpg | 15:34 |
| fwereade_ | TheOpenSourcerer, s.split(":")[0] | 15:35 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | fwereade_: Yeah - Thanks. Just worked it out too :-) | 15:36 |
| fwereade_ | TheOpenSourcerer, cool :) | 15:36 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | fwereade_: OK - It's a bit more complicated than I thought. ;-) My string could actually look like this "12345:09876 : ABCDEFG" | 15:47 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I want to split and return everything left of the <space:<space> bit. | 15:48 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I just tried split(' : ') but that still split on the first colon | 15:48 |
| fwereade_ | TheOpenSourcerer, that's odd: | 15:49 |
| fwereade_ | >>> "foo:bar : hcde:jeoi".split(" : ")[0] | 15:49 |
| fwereade_ | 'foo:bar' | 15:49 |
| AlanBell | split('abc') splits on a and b and c, not the string 'abc' | 15:50 |
| AlanBell | I think | 15:50 |
| fwereade_ | >>> "helloabchello".split("abc") | 15:50 |
| fwereade_ | ['hello', 'hello'] | 15:50 |
| fwereade_ | >>> "helloabchello".split("cba") | 15:50 |
| fwereade_ | ['helloabchello'] | 15:50 |
| fwereade_ | >>> | 15:50 |
| AlanBell | no, I am wong, don't mind me | 15:51 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | fwereade_: You are right. Just tried it in a python console and it works. | 15:51 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Better check my template... Probably typo. | 15:51 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Yay! My bad - that works! | 15:52 |
| daubers | woo!! | 16:00 |
| daubers | Things in the workshop tell me when they're finished now :) | 16:00 |
| danfish | daubers: mqtt? | 16:00 |
| matti | ;] | 16:00 |
| matti | TheOpenSourcerer: <ruby lover mode> Try Ruby ;p </ruby lover mode> | 16:01 |
| daubers | danfish: Indeed :) | 16:01 |
| danfish | yeh! | 16:01 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | matti: I have to use Python for that one. | 16:01 |
| matti | TheOpenSourcerer: :) | 16:01 |
| danfish | daubers: just need a nanode mqtt port now | 16:02 |
| daubers | danfish: Yeah, that'll take a long while as memory on the chip the nanode uses for ethernet is a bit lacking | 16:03 |
| danfish | ah - didn't realise that was the reason | 16:03 |
| daubers | danfish: Did get my first arduino ethernet today though \o/ | 16:03 |
| danfish | excellent. knolleary's update the client for that one IIRC | 16:04 |
| daubers | danfish: This was from a discussion I had with someone http://groups.google.com/group/reading-hackspace/msg/ff54bb13cb211c0d states the exact problem | 16:05 |
| daubers | danfish: He has! It's the same wiznet chip on the arduino ethernet shield, it's more an update for the arduino 1.0 IDE | 16:05 |
| danfish | hmm whether to get a nanode rf....or a raspberry pi? | 16:10 |
| daubers | (raspberry pi) | 16:10 |
| daubers | I really want an Arduino Due as I have a project that will benefit from the extra processing umpf of the ARM chip | 16:11 |
| daubers | but they're not out yet :( | 16:11 |
| monsterwizard | oooo Ardunio user | 16:12 |
| monsterwizard | What projects have you made? | 16:12 |
| daubers | Mostly toys or simple sensor rigs | 16:12 |
| danfish | I missed the announcement about the Due | 16:12 |
| daubers | It was part of the makerfaire announcements | 16:13 |
| danfish | monsterwizard: some home automation/monitoting stuff | 16:13 |
| daubers | I might try and through together an MQTT over easyradio library | 16:14 |
| monsterwizard | oh sweet | 16:20 |
| daubers | EasyRadio's are expensive :( But so very very easy to use | 16:23 |
| monsterwizard | danfish where do you buy your electronics? | 16:25 |
| MooDoo | http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/01/geeks-lose-minds-recreate-first-level-of-super-mario-land-with/ | 16:37 |
| MooDoo | awesome, minecraft mario :D | 16:37 |
| danfish | monsterwizard: a number of places - rapid, coolcomponents, proto-pic | 16:37 |
| scoundrel50a | ok, I am running Ubuntu 11.10 on a Lenovo laptop, and had a problem with an upgrade which caused me to loose the desktop, which was a whilst it was in Beta. I had to create a new User and things are working ok. I log in using the new username and password, but when I go to open Synaptic, it shows my old username on the pop up password box, and wants my old details, even though I no longer have that username and password, would anybody know | 16:59 |
| scoundrel50a | why this is happening. | 16:59 |
| AlanBell | hi scoundrel50a | 17:06 |
| bigcalm | The old user has the uid of 1000? | 17:06 |
| bigcalm | Is your new user in the sudo list? | 17:07 |
| AlanBell | new user isn't in sudoers | 17:07 |
| bigcalm | (doubt that'll make a difference though) | 17:07 |
| AlanBell | or isn't in the admin group | 17:07 |
| bigcalm | Listen to AlanBell | 17:07 |
| * bigcalm goes back to stabbing SQL | 17:07 | |
| AlanBell | that will be it, it is like my kids computers want me to log in to do updates because they are not admins | 17:07 |
| AlanBell | scoundrel50a: ok, so if you run the users and groups tool (just type "user" in the dash and it should find it) | 17:08 |
| AlanBell | then click your new user then click advanced | 17:09 |
| AlanBell | you will have to log in as the old user at this point | 17:09 |
| scoundrel50a | ok, will take a look now, one sec | 17:10 |
| AlanBell | then on the user priviledges tab click the administer the system checkbox and anything else you feel like ticking there | 17:10 |
| scoundrel50a | ok, where do you find that in Ubuntu 11.10. I dont see it anywhere | 17:11 |
| daubers | scoundrel50a: Are you in the users tool? | 17:13 |
| daubers | or trying to find it? | 17:13 |
| scoundrel50a | daubers: no cant find the users tool | 17:13 |
| daubers | scoundrel50a: Ok, if you open the dash (the Unity thing that lets you search) and just type users it should appear in the list | 17:14 |
| * AlanBell goes to cook sausages, it is there somewhere in the dash scoundrel50a | 17:14 | |
| AlanBell | ooh, is it not because you are not an admin?? | 17:14 |
| AlanBell | someone carry on with this . . . | 17:14 |
| daubers | Should still appear shouldn't it? | 17:14 |
| scoundrel50a | there is user accounts, and it has my name as admin, but I cant do anything with it, I cant do what you said with it, its not like the old version | 17:15 |
| daubers | scoundrel50a: Hang on, let me upload a screenshot to make sure we're looking at the same thing | 17:16 |
| scoundrel50a | I can do that in 10.10.not 11.10 it is different | 17:16 |
| andylockran | lol, I need a guru :p | 17:17 |
| andylockran | a MySQL guru.. | 17:17 |
| andylockran | for hire :D | 17:17 |
| daubers | scoundrel50a: Are you seeing this window? | 17:17 |
| daubers | http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=5848 | 17:18 |
| daubers | (if so I think this is the wrong tool.... but we'll get there in a moment) | 17:18 |
| scoundrel50a | yes, but you cant get in any further, it doesnt allow, or at least I cant find a way in | 17:18 |
| daubers | ok | 17:18 |
| daubers | when you type users in the dash, there should be another one called "Users and Groups"? | 17:19 |
| czajkowski | nods | 17:19 |
| scoundrel50a | I enter my log in details but it doesnt give any more options to do what you suggested | 17:19 |
| daubers | rather than user accounts | 17:19 |
| scoundrel50a | nope | 17:19 |
| scoundrel50a | not there | 17:19 |
| scoundrel50a | not in my 11.10 | 17:19 |
| czajkowski | scoundrel50a: hmm I'm seeing it here in 11.10 | 17:20 |
| scoundrel50a | ok I typed users and groups in and nothing comes up, | 17:21 |
| scoundrel50a | so where has Users and Groups gone, and how do I get it back | 17:23 |
| AlanBell | that is a bit of a puzzle | 17:23 |
| popey | its called user accounts | 17:24 |
| popey | not users and groups | 17:24 |
| daubers | popey: They're different UI's | 17:24 |
| scoundrel50a | ok, I have user accounts.....but there are no Privalages options in it | 17:25 |
| scoundrel50a | even if I enter the password | 17:25 |
| daubers | scoundrel50a: Are you set as an administrator in that UI? | 17:25 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Of course you could just type: sudo usermod -a -G admin username | 17:26 |
| scoundrel50a | ok, one sec, I'll see if I can get an image of what I see and show you | 17:26 |
| daubers | Thanks :) | 17:26 |
| AlanBell | su oldname first | 17:26 |
| daubers | AlanBell: We should check he's not in the admin group first | 17:27 |
| daubers | double check even | 17:27 |
| AlanBell | ok | 17:27 |
| * daubers needs to disappear to a squash game | 17:30 | |
| daubers | can somone carry on with this please? | 17:30 |
| scoundrel50a | sorry, can work out in 11.10 how to take screen shot | 17:31 |
| daubers | scoundrel50a: There's a screenshot tool | 17:31 |
| daubers | scoundrel50a: Throw screenshot in the dash and it should popup | 17:31 |
| scoundrel50a | flippin heck, that was hard work, http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=5849 | 17:33 |
| scoundrel50a | bottom name not locked | 17:34 |
| daubers | scoundrel50a: can you run users-admin from a terminal please? | 17:34 |
| scoundrel50a | ok, need to install it, give me a sec | 17:34 |
| daubers | ok, that's the users and groups tool me and AlanBell were thinking of | 17:35 |
| scoundrel50a | ah | 17:35 |
| daubers | I really have to vanish or I'm going to be late, but hopefully someone else can continue with you if you get stuck in that tool | 17:35 |
| scoundrel50a | ok | 17:35 |
| scoundrel50a | thank you so much for your help | 17:35 |
| daubers | Hope you get it fixed :) | 17:36 |
| scoundrel50a | yay, I got it back | 17:36 |
| scoundrel50a | I have this in 10.10 | 17:36 |
| scoundrel50a | where is Synaptic in Users and Admin, Synaptic is calling my old username and password | 17:37 |
| scoundrel50a | ok, I will give it another go, I added my name as admin, see if it works | 17:38 |
| scoundrel50a | need to reboot, brb | 17:38 |
| scoundrel50a | nope, that didnt work, Synaptic is still asking for my old password, it has called my old uesrname | 17:40 |
| scoundrel50a | I cant get into Synaptic because of it | 17:41 |
| scoundrel50a | I can update using the updater, and via the terminal | 17:42 |
| scoundrel50a | the only way I can get into Synaptic is if I open run as root, enter Synaptic into it, and then it accepts my new password | 17:44 |
| scoundrel50a | and then it opens | 17:45 |
| pr0ph3t | hi all | 17:46 |
| pr0ph3t | would you be able to advise me about a pdf reader with advanced features such as highlighting bookmarking etc? | 17:46 |
| scoundrel50a | ok, it seems I looked in the Users and Groups section, and it seems that both accounts point to the old username and password, even though logging in I can use the new uesrname and password | 17:48 |
| scoundrel50a | very odd | 17:49 |
| * AlanBell returns with a tummy full of sausages | 17:50 | |
| brobostigon | :) | 17:50 |
| brobostigon | yummy. | 17:51 |
| pr0ph3t | any suggestions about the pdf reader of my dreams? possibly for free! | 17:52 |
| pr0ph3t | (it is for Ubuntu if anyone is wondering) | 17:52 |
| AlanBell | pr0ph3t: file bugs against evince | 17:53 |
| * AlanBell wonders if scoundrel50a had ubuntu-desktop installed | 17:54 | |
| AlanBell | certainly things adrift if user-admin was not installed | 17:54 |
| pr0ph3t | AlanBell, you can't highlight with evince though you can bookmark pages | 18:01 |
| AlanBell | pr0ph3t: so file a bug against evince saying you can't highlight stuff with it | 18:02 |
| pr0ph3t | my ezPDF reader on my android phone is super | 18:02 |
| pr0ph3t | that a bug? | 18:02 |
| AlanBell | sure, if it isn't as awesome as you want it to be then it's lack of awesomeness is a fixable bug | 18:02 |
| AlanBell | it is a feature request really, but they all go in as bugs | 18:02 |
| AlanBell | ubuntu-bug evince | 18:03 |
| pr0ph3t | plus I'll get karma! | 18:03 |
| jutnux | Mmmmm clotted cream ice cream! | 18:05 |
| pr0ph3t | Bug #656363 | 18:12 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 656363 in evince (Ubuntu) "missing 2.32 feature: add annotations" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656363 | 18:12 |
| pr0ph3t | I don't see that fix and I'm using Oneric Ocelot | 18:12 |
| AlanBell | pr0ph3t: good question | 18:33 |
| AlanBell | pr0ph3t: works for me! | 18:36 |
| AlanBell | pr0ph3t: ok, so in the help for evince it tells you how to do it, in the sidebar select annotations, then add, then select the thing you want to annotate, it works for me | 18:37 |
| pr0ph3t | AlanBell, that's cool, but how about underlining etc, is that possible? | 18:40 |
| AlanBell | dunno, I have never ever annotated a PDF before, still not quite sure why you would want to! | 18:42 |
| Myrtti | how annoying, on oneiric my laptop resets the display brightness after every time the screen has gone blank | 19:01 |
| czajkowski | dinner has been ordered | 19:03 |
| czajkowski | yay | 19:03 |
| * popey goes to obtain curry | 19:11 | |
| czajkowski | pr0ph3t: what we ordered also | 19:12 |
| czajkowski | 45mins and counting | 19:12 |
| czajkowski | popey: | 19:12 |
| czajkowski | damn tab completion | 19:12 |
| pr0ph3t | so it's curry tonight | 19:13 |
| * AlanBell had sausages | 19:15 | |
| davmor2 | we had pizza | 19:15 |
| AlanBell | and now has beer | 19:15 |
| * davmor2 is now working again | 19:16 | |
| * jutnux had pot noodle. "luvin lyfe 2k11" | 19:16 | |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ proper patch panel installed | 19:22 |
| davmor2 | pr0ph3t: for a mere $60 you can install Q PDF Studio from Software Center and it will be able to do anything you need to a pdf :) | 19:24 |
| jutnux | Mere? | 19:24 |
| * davmor2 waits to hear the thump of pr0ph3t 's jaw hitting the floor | 19:25 | |
| jutnux | Ah | 19:25 |
| zleap | this wrong direction thread on the list is good | 19:25 |
| davmor2 | jutnux: in comparison to Adobe PDF tools at $200+ yeap mere | 19:25 |
| pr0ph3t | what's that in pounds? 5 quid? | 19:25 |
| jutnux | My school has PDF tools | 19:25 |
| jutnux | I fail to see what it is good for | 19:25 |
| davmor2 | pr0ph3t: about £40 | 19:26 |
| jutnux | Other than printing PDFs, which PDFCreator does on Winslows and what you can do on Ubuntu anyway | 19:26 |
| davmor2 | jutnux: I know it's aim at professionals rather than you're average user :) | 19:26 |
| pr0ph3t | I see interesting | 19:26 |
| jutnux | davmor2: Haha, don't really have a use for PDFs to be honest ;) | 19:27 |
| pr0ph3t | - illegal comments censored - | 19:27 |
| pr0ph3t | online somewhere | 19:27 |
| davmor2 | jutnux: the big advantage for Office users is they can create a pdf form that can be published online the results saved and signed as pdf and therefore a binding contract etc so it does have uses but again I'm guessing more of a pro thing than you're average joe tool :) | 19:30 |
| jutnux | I'm on Ubuntu so I guess I don't have uses for that ;) | 19:31 |
| czajkowski | jutnux: some offices use Ubuntu and may need it :) | 19:31 |
| jutnux | Probably, ah well - the wonders of being young and not having a job 'ey? | 19:33 |
| jutnux | So how are we all? | 19:33 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski: bastubis tells me that charities need PDF form stuff for grant applications. Can't say I have ever come across a PDF form myself | 19:33 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: bastubis | 19:34 |
| AlanBell | generally people want PDF to be for output they don't want other people to mess with, like invoices | 19:34 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski: Paula, that is her IRC nick | 19:34 |
| czajkowski | ahhh | 19:34 |
| AlanBell | I have no idea why | 19:35 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: aye my old place in ie used to have an online form but really it was the back end of a pdf | 19:35 |
| czajkowski | http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/39826/ folks might find this an interesting read | 19:38 |
| AlanBell | read it :) | 19:39 |
| AlanBell | funnily enough | 19:39 |
| czajkowski | :) | 19:40 |
| czajkowski | in between all of the emails today | 19:40 |
| czajkowski | how ever did you find time | 19:40 |
| AlanBell | read it months ago! | 19:40 |
| * TheOpenSourcerer had fish fingers & mash earlier and will be going out for a curry later :-) | 19:41 | |
| czajkowski | gah 15 more mins for dinner to arrive | 19:43 |
| czajkowski | please hurry up | 19:43 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski: looks like they lost the argument about stamping "unclassified" on every page! | 19:44 |
| czajkowski | eh ? | 19:44 |
| AlanBell | the LSE report, the cabinet office lawyers interfered with it | 19:46 |
| czajkowski | oh lovely | 19:48 |
| AlanBell | I think they only did that, plus decided they wanted copyright to HMSO or something, the license is their version of creative commons | 19:48 |
| AlanBell | (c) 2011 Queen's Printer and Controller from HMSO | 19:48 |
| czajkowski | ahh I see | 19:50 |
| czajkowski | huzzah! dinner has arrived | 19:50 |
| AlanBell | oh /o\ conflicting permissions on that LSE stuff on page 1 | 19:50 |
| AlanBell | and a typo on the link to the OGL | 19:52 |
| * AlanBell goes to send an email | 19:52 | |
| AlanBell | twice!! | 19:53 |
| MartijnVdS | And once the next morning! | 19:53 |
| AlanBell | it was all spelled correctly in the draft that was CC licensed | 19:54 |
| popey | quiet evening ☺ | 21:18 |
| * popey tickles daubers | 21:21 | |
| * bigcalm scribbles in his journal | 21:22 | |
| * Myrtti considers sleep | 21:22 | |
| * popey considers google hangout | 21:23 | |
| bigcalm | I thought your webcam didn't work | 21:23 |
| popey | i have two | 21:24 |
| popey | the 12.04 one doesn't | 21:24 |
| popey | laptop does | 21:24 |
| bigcalm | I haven't taken part in a hangout in all the time that g+ has been around | 21:25 |
| popey | heh | 21:25 |
| bigcalm | I'm amazed that my webcam works within their thingy | 21:27 |
| Myrtti | bigcalm: me neither | 21:27 |
| jacobw | google hangout sounds odd | 21:27 |
| popey | tis fun | 21:28 |
| Myrtti | ooohhh | 21:30 |
| jacobw | i imagine its like party where no one can touch each other | 21:30 |
| Myrtti | talking of Google Hangouts | 21:30 |
| Myrtti | looks like the inventor of IRC is working for Google on developing Hangouts | 21:30 |
| jacobw | who is the inventor of irc? | 21:30 |
| popey | a finnish person | 21:31 |
| Myrtti | Jarkko Oikarinen | 21:31 |
| jacobw | so the finns invented irc and linux | 21:32 |
| popey | bigcalm: wanna test it? | 21:32 |
| bigcalm | popey: Sure, let me get an ale | 21:34 |
| * AlanBell starts a hangout from the ubuntu uk page | 21:34 | |
| popey | Fetched 723 kB in 213503982334601d 7h 0min 14s (0 B/s) | 21:39 |
| Myrtti | awwww | 21:39 |
| bigcalm | o.O | 21:39 |
| popey | hmm, something busted here | 21:40 |
| popey | might switch to chrome | 21:40 |
| * AlanBell is hanging out | 21:42 | |
| * daubers considers hot chocolate | 21:44 | |
| * Daviey tucks AlanBell back in | 21:45 | |
| * jacobw is exploring G+ | 21:51 | |
| * ubuntu <3 G+ | 21:57 | |
| === ubuntu is now known as ndf | ||
| * ndf <3 G+ | 21:58 | |
| ndf | lol | 21:58 |
| monsterwizard | really | 21:58 |
| monsterwizard | ?? | 21:58 |
| ndf | i do. | 21:58 |
| ndf | you seem shocked, are you not impressed? | 21:59 |
| * jacobw <3 G++ | 22:14 | |
| jacobw | its all about polymorphism | 22:14 |
| AlanBell | that was fun | 22:14 |
| monsterwizard | is it wrong to listen to audio while programming? | 22:25 |
| monsterwizard | or learning | 22:25 |
| jacobw | music is supposed to stimulate your mind | 22:27 |
| jacobw | as long as isn't nirvana | 22:28 |
| jacobw | <newsflash> asimo on qi <newsflash> | 22:28 |
| Myrtti | Rupert Grint to depict Eddie "The Eagle" Edwards in a biopic movie? ahhahahahahahahaha | 22:33 |
| jacobw | wow | 22:38 |
| monsterwizard | is it wrong to do programming without coffee? | 22:45 |
| jacobw | monsterwizard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTVE5iPMKLg | 22:49 |
| monsterwizard | errr that was a very educational video | 22:53 |
| AlanBell | danfish: is the pub selection settled yet? | 22:54 |
| awilkins | Hmm. So far the computer has failed to crash. Apparently the solution to my instability problem was to remove the video card and wiggle it a bit. | 23:05 |
| awilkins | One can only hope this persists | 23:05 |
| Myrtti | oh no... | 23:20 |
| === funkyHat_ is now known as funkyHat | ||
| monsterwizard | who else is forever alone on a friday night? | 23:48 |
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