[00:00] <ramone_> hello people
[00:00] <reisio> hi just you
[00:00] <Emiru> How to I get grub back ? Im on a live CD and sudo grub-install /dev/sda says /dev is busy
[00:00] <Emiru> cant umount either
[00:00] <ramone_> it's my first time back in IRC since..like...hum... 15 yeras?! lol
[00:01] <reisio> Emiru: --no-floppy ?
[00:01] <reisio> ramone_: welcome back, suckah
[00:01] <ramone_> thank you mate!
[00:01] <haylox> wheres th drive?
[00:02] <Emiru> reisio: As a parameter ? sudo grub-install --no-floppy /dev/sda ?
[00:02] <reisio> right
[00:04] <Emiru> I get /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).
[00:04] <reisio> Emiru: are you chrooted?
[00:05] <ramone_> guys, I have a    rtl8781l wireless chipset but, using wireshark, I don't know the difference between capture in promiscuous mode and monitor mode. Monitor Mode means to capture every packet that my wireless card can detect ?
[00:05] <Phr3d13> So how come f10 doesn't appear to apply boot edits in the grub configuration option
[00:05] <Emiru> reisio: chroot ?
[00:06] <reisio> Emiru: so no
[00:07] <warfaren> chroot means change root, so right now your root is your live cd environment and thats why you need to chroot
[00:07] <Emiru> lol I guess not
[00:07] <reisio> Emiru: try this stuff: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[00:07] <Emiru> reisio: Will do thanks
[00:08] <skypent> If I decide to downgrade, uninstall 11.10 & install 9.04;  Is there a way I can stop the os from updating to later versions?
[00:08] <reisio> skypent: it shouldn't on its own
[00:08] <reisio> skypent: why 9.04, though
[00:09] <skypent> There's a glitch with drive reading with 9.10 and 11.10 that the forums I'm looking at (the users can't resolve)
[00:09] <skypent> So I'd rather just go down and not deal with it.
[00:09] <lewis1711> I keep getting "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade: E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." when trying to do 11.04 -> 11.10. I've used computer janitor, disabled my third party sources, and autoremove. halp?
[00:13] <almoxarife> lewis1711: you familiar with synaptic?
[00:14] <lewis1711> almoxarife: yes
[00:15] <a_p3rson1> can someone help me with mounting another drive (windows) at startup? 10.10
[00:15] <almoxarife> lewis1711: look at 'local/obsolete' tab, is part of your system showing up with all ppa's unchecked?
[00:15] <mbeierl> how does one remove all the ppa's on a system in order to prepare for dist-upgrade?
[00:15] <ohzie> Hey guys.
[00:16] <warfaren> a_p3rson1: add it to /etc/fstab
[00:16] <ohzie> When I type "mv *.jpg sort/" I get an error message. "invalid option: -- '1'" <--Which is weird because I checked my aliases and I don't have any aliases, and this command used to work.
[00:16] <reisio> ohzie: you might have a - in a filename, try mv -- *.jpg sort/
[00:16] <a_p3rson1> warfaren: i could use some help on that one.
[00:16] <lewis1711> almoxarife: where's that tab? does computer janitor not remove the obsolete ones anyway?
[00:17] <reisio> ohzie: to be clearer, you might have a file starting with, for example, '--1'
[00:17] <reisio> ohzie: which the application has trouble discerning as a parameter or not
[00:17] <warfaren> ok first open fstab in a text editor as root
[00:17] <reisio> ohzie: -- means 'no more params'
[00:17] <ohzie> reisio: I have one file that starts with '-'
[00:17] <ohzie> it is '-1.jpg'
[00:17] <reisio> ohzie: that's probably the culprit
[00:17] <warfaren> for example sudo nano /etc/fstab
[00:17] <ohzie> is that doing this?
[00:17] <reisio> ohzie: most likely
[00:17] <ohzie> Oh man thank you
[00:17] <a_p3rson1> ok then working on it
[00:18] <reisio> ohzie: the program 'detox' I believe takes care of those in filenames, as well as various other things
[00:18] <a_p3rson1> warfaren: ready
[00:18] <reisio> ohzie: personally I tend to just use foo -- bar and ignore it :p or rename on a case-by-case
[00:18]  * reisio is lazy
[00:18] <warfaren> would someone else please help him with the fstab syntax. cant remember it on top of my head and not at my computer now
[00:18] <almoxarife> lewis1711: did you load up ppa's on your system?
[00:19] <lewis1711> yes. they're gone now
[00:19] <almoxarife> lewis1711: gone? how did you gone them?
[00:19] <Emiru> In Boot-Repair, the Grub tab is grey and empty, any one knows what to do?
[00:19] <warfaren> a_p3rson1: i guess your windows drive is ntfs?
[00:19] <mbeierl> yes... I'm curious as I'd like to gone mine too :)
[00:19] <a_p3rson1> this is true, yes.
[00:20] <bsmith093> whens the next lts release?
[00:20] <lewis1711> almoxarife: synaptic->settings->repositories, removed them from "Ubuntu software" and "authentification"
[00:20] <reisio> probably 'round about the same time of year the last one was
[00:20] <Xeneth> how do I add personalized commands?
[00:20] <mbeierl> bsmith093: I think it's 12.04
[00:20] <mbeierl> !LTS
[00:20] <reisio> Xeneth: you can use 'alias' (help alias) or functions with Bash
[00:20] <warfaren> alright so if no1 else can help you with that just google add ntfs to fstab
[00:21] <reisio> Xeneth: talk to #bash to learn more, or man bash
[00:21] <a_p3rson1> warfaren: is there any specific syntax to only do auto-mount?
[00:21] <Xeneth> help alias
[00:22] <warfaren> and it should be clear probably. you need to know your device name for your ntfs partition. and no, anything in fstab will be automounted
[00:22] <reisio> Xeneth: in a terminal
[00:22] <robin0800> bsmith093: yes 04 12 as we say here
[00:22] <almoxarife> mbeierl: to rid them safely ( and its still not safe 100%) requires a 'ppa purge' then if you are lucky you might have a virgin ubuntu system, and that is not what usually happens
[00:22] <Xeneth> reisio, yea, just had wrong window active
[00:22] <reisio> 'help' is Bash's built-in command for information on its built-in commands
[00:22] <reisio> ah :p
[00:22] <a_p3rson1> warfaren: got it, found a page on the ubuntu wiki on automounting, shows all the syntax needed.
[00:22] <a_p3rson1> thank you,
[00:22] <warfaren> youll have to choose and set a permanent mount point tno
[00:22] <Xeneth> reisio, thanks
[00:22] <warfaren> sweet :)
[00:22] <reisio> Xeneth: somewhat more simply, alias foo="bar" in ~/.bashrc
[00:22] <mbeierl> almoxarife: ah.  Thanks!
[00:23] <reisio> Xeneth: and source ~/.bashrc if you want to use the new alias in the existing session
[00:23] <reisio> Xeneth: there are probably some in there already you can use as examples
[00:24] <almoxarife> lewis1711: you unchecked the ppa, and that is where you left it?
[00:26] <Xeneth> reisio, May make it a bit more clear if I explain.  I want to use minicom with 4 serial ports to network devices.  Want to make a simple command in place of typing out the command with all the augments.  Example:  "R1 = minicom -s ttyS1"  (I know that's not exactly right, but not on my server right now.
[00:28] <Phr3d13> Finally got my Ubuntu to boot, thanks to all that got me started
[00:28] <reisio> Xeneth: oh
[00:28] <reisio> Xeneth: you can just dump all the commands on separate lines into a file
[00:28] <reisio> Xeneth: and run sh filename in the future
[00:32] <Phr3d13> Apparently f10 doesn't do the same as ctrl - x
[00:32] <reisio> Phr3d13: really?
[00:32] <reisio> doesn't it say use either?
[00:32] <Phr3d13> Yup
[00:32] <reisio> more GRUB2 fun...
[00:32] <reisio> gj trying both
[00:32] <faro> algum brasileiro ai
[00:32] <xangua> !pt | faro
[00:32] <Phr3d13> Shame on me for wanting to be lazy and only hit one button I guess
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Phr3d13: np man :)
[00:32] <Xeneth> reisio, Thank, that's what I was looking for.  I assume that it will not stay through reboot so should I make a script to run at start that redoes it?
[00:32] <a_p3rson1> how would i include spaces in a drive label in fstab? the wiki says uses \040
[00:33] <faro> #ubuntu-br
[00:33] <reisio> Xeneth: if you want, I don't know what you're doing
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> a_p3rson1: I'd change the label
[00:33] <reisio> Xeneth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RcLocalHowto
[00:33] <a_p3rson1> ActionParsnip: really? any limitation to it?
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> a_p3rson1: just keep it short and without spaces
[00:33] <a_p3rson1> and, thats also the preset drive label ("Windows 7")
[00:33] <Xeneth> reisio, Basicly trying to simplify connection through multiple serial ports.
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> a_p3rson1: I beleieve you can escape spaes in fstab, or you may be able to use quotes
[00:33] <Emiru> reisio: Boot-repair's grub tab are grey and nothing is on them, any idea ?
[00:33] <a_p3rson1> it says escape spaces by using \040   does that mean replace the spaces with that?
[00:33] <reisio> Xeneth: more simply without calling 'sh' you can put #!/bin/bash at the top of the file, and chmod +x it
[00:33] <warfaren> a_p3rson1: maybe you should consider relabelling the drive tho? it wont affect windows in any wah
[00:33] <reisio> Xeneth: then just ./file would work
[00:33] <warfaren> way
[00:33] <reisio> Emiru: what's the problem, again?
[00:33] <zacarias> pdf viewer and editor (drag and drop pages, etc.), any suggestion?
[00:34] <reisio> there is one just for page reordering
[00:34] <reisio> I've forgotten the name
[00:34] <Emiru> reisio: oh nvm ill google it :P
[00:34] <reisio> zacarias: pdfshuffler
[00:34] <web1109> places -> connect to server. why does it not have a tick for "reconnect when system starts up"
[00:35] <zacarias> reisio: tx, I'll look for it
[00:35] <reisio> as just a viewer my favie is evince, it inverts on its own
[00:35] <reisio> (xcalib -i -a can invert your whole session)
[00:40] <albert> Is there a way to amplify the master volume beyond 100% (like in vlc)?
[00:41] <albert> (ubuntu 11.10)
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> albert: there is the option in the sound icon on the panel
[00:41] <reisio> albert: with Pulse there should be, yes
[00:42] <albert> ah, using fluxbox, do you know the command?
[00:43] <albert> for the systemtray icon i guess
[00:44] <zacarias> and a software for pdf annotating?
[00:47] <albert> Where are the gnome2 autostarts stored?
[00:48] <almoxarife> albert: sound settings gui allows over 100%
[00:49] <albert> yeah, searching for the command to start the systemtray icon for the fluxbox startup
[00:49] <albert> thanks though!
[00:49] <Akiyama-san> how can i apply this patch into my system -> https://lkml.org/lkml/2007/9/5/289 ?
[00:49] <Akiyama-san> can someone please help me/
[00:50] <reisio> Akiyama-san: it's from 2007, so if it was worth having at all, it's already applied
[00:50] <reisio> Akiyama-san: otherwise you would need a copy of the kernel from 2007, which is not the sanest approach
[00:50] <Akiyama-san> well, anyway, how can i apply patches like this one?
[00:50] <reisio> okay like this one
[00:50] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patch_%28Unix%29#Usage_examples
[00:51] <reisio> also for a patch that simple it's a no brainer to do it manually
[00:51] <Akiyama-san> thx reisio
[00:51] <reisio> find line 1371, remove the line with a -, add the lines with +
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> Is there an app that connects to the remote app in VLC which isn't the web browser?
[00:53] <reisio> lost me
[00:57] <YawningAngel> Highly random question: anyone know if, in French "de hauteur" abbreviates to "d'hauteur" or not?
[00:57] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: note sure I understand your question...
[00:57] <mbeierl> c/note/not/
[00:57] <Pici> !ot | YawningAngel
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: I run vlc on a server and I connect to it using vlc remote on my android phone and control it remotely, I can also do the same on my laptop but I use the web interface
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: was curious if there was an application, kinda like transgui is to transmission
[00:59] <YawningAngel> Oh please, it's a one-line question with a simple yes/no answer
[00:59] <YawningAngel> I'm quite sure that the policies will manage
[00:59] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: ah, understood now.  And for a moment had read VNC, not VLC.  I'm not familiar with the remote in VLC, so sorry to get your hopes up...
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> YawningAngel: yes it will as far as I recall
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: vncis nasty
[01:00] <YawningAngel> Thanks very much, thought so ;p
[01:00] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: yes. which is why I started piping up :)
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: you can enable the remote http console in advanced settings, then edit the .hosts file to allow your network subnet, you can then control VNC with a remote app or web interface rather than slow VNC
[01:02] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: ... wait ... I'm getting confused between the N and L again.  Are you really referring to VLC in the last statement, or the desktop control software?
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: yes, I do not use and hate VNC
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: http://hobbyistsoftware.com/images/VLCImages/win-prefs.png
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: http://blog.npike.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/vlc-http.JPG
[01:04] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: ok.  because that last statement sounded quite off for a VNC server.  Yes, I have turned that on before, back in my days of trying to do cheap monitoring via a webcam.  Had it stream the cam over vlc
[01:04] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: but I gave that up in favour of an auto-answer skype session.  it just worked better :)
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: I use it to control VNC, I have an app on my phone, but was curious if an app existed
[01:05] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: you mean VLC, not N, correct?
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: always L, VLC by videoLan
[01:05] <mbeierl> Sorry :)
[01:06] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: and now that we've generated enough traffic, I'm hoping someone else might be able to chime in ... ?  Bueller?
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: I agree
[01:07] <a_p3rson> I noticed that when I turn my machine on, at the plymouth splash screen, I now get an "Errors were found while checking the drive for /" message, with options to fix, recover, ignore and skip...ignoring works, but is there any fix to this?
[01:09] <mbeierl> a_p3rson: don't ignore?  tell it to fix/recovery
[01:09] <robin0800> a_p3rson: think that is an error in fstab when something called is not mounting
[01:09] <infekted> anyone know how to change expo to not have the gap when you move unity launcher to bottom of screen?
[01:09] <a_p3rson> robin0800: it works fine if I hit ignore
[01:09] <balistic22> is there a mac osx lion channel?
[01:10] <robin0800> a_p3rson: maybe it just needs extra time!
[01:10] <ghufran> hi. is it possible to create an NTFS partition while installing ubuntu?
[01:11] <a_p3rson> any idea how to give it more? its not really a problem, but i cant push "i" automagically...
[01:11] <xangua> !apple | balistic22
[01:11] <beri> jeeze
[01:11] <reisio> ghufran: probably
[01:12] <a_p3rson> robin0800: any idea on how to do that?
[01:12] <ghufran> i am in the middle of the install process. i am changing the partitions. i only see option to make fat32 partition which is supported by windows ..
[01:13] <balistic22> thank you ubotto
[01:13] <balistic22> #ubuntu-powerpc
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> ghufran: what do you desire?
[01:13] <ghufran> ActionParsnip: NTFS
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> ghufran: I'd only make that in windows personally, it is proprietary to Microsoft
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> ghufran: you can install ntfsprogs and can format NTFS though
[01:14] <reisio> even if it isn't simple from the install media, you can post-install, yes
[01:14] <mbeierl> ghufran: just leave the space (an empty partition) for it during the install, then like ActionParsnip says, after the install is complete, you may choose to use ntfsprogs to make an NTFS filesystem for you
[01:15] <ghufran> ActionParsnip: hmm .. okay. but i dont have internet access on the laptop i am trying to install it on ..
[01:15] <robin0800> a_p3rson: no not really and not sure what fix/repair does either perhaps worth a try
[01:15] <ghufran> ah.. ok
[01:15] <mbeierl> ghufran: but, be forewarned: the support for file ownership/acls is limited in Linux, so once NTFS is mounted, it treats all files as being owned by the UID which did the mounting.
[01:15] <reisio> mkfs.ntfs/mkntfs
[01:16] <ghufran> mbeierl: that's okay. i dont really care about file permissions. i just don't want the 4GB / file limitation of fat32
[01:16] <mbeierl> a_p3rson: I am pretty sure that error message is from the fsck disk check on boot, and it is telling you there are problems on the file system.  it will wait for your input on EVERY boot until you get the file system corrected
[01:16] <mbeierl> ghufran: it's not there anymore :)
[01:16] <warfaren> a_p3rson: can you pate your entire line in fstab that mounts your ntfs drive?
[01:17] <warfaren> paste*
[01:17] <a_p3rson> egh...let me look
[01:17] <a_p3rson> was gonna say, pate is a delicious treat, not something you can do on IRC.
[01:17] <ghufran> mbeierl: what do you mean? :S i get errors on one of my far32 disks
[01:17] <hsmod> hey all.  is there an app i can use to transfer mp3s ON to my iphone4?
[01:18] <ghufran> also. is it possible to change the language of ubuntu after the install?
[01:18] <reisio> hsmod: bluetooth would probably be simplest
[01:18] <mbeierl> ghufran: most of the portable USB disks that you get (like 1TB ones from WD) are formatted using FAT so they can be used in Windows, Mac and Linux.  They are definitely not NTFS
[01:18] <reisio> oh?
[01:18] <xangua> hsmod: rhythmbox, banshee, gtkpod
[01:18] <xangua> etc
[01:18] <a_p3rson> warfaren: mbeierl: the full line is:                UUID=9e0e836c-d89c-46c3-b95f-f5f58a7d3be9	/	ext4	errors=remount-ro	0	1
[01:18] <hsmod> Reisio i can do bluetooth mp3 transfer ?
[01:18] <reisio> I have only seen NTFS formatted ones
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> ghufran: sure you can run language support
[01:18] <warfaren> yeah sorry im typing on my smartphone, not the best keyboard
[01:18] <reisio> hsmod: bluetooth can transfer anything
[01:18] <a_p3rson> warfaren: know the feeling.
[01:18] <mbeierl> ghufran: same with USB sticks.  they are not limited to 4GB for a single filesystem either, yet that are FA
[01:19] <ghufran> ActionParsnip: ok thanks!
[01:19] <warfaren> it says ext4.. u sure thats the right line?
[01:19] <hsmod> xangua, which is the best?
[01:19] <mbeierl> reisio: NTFS for usb sticks?  Not usually.
[01:19] <reisio> oh sorry, I read external for some reason
[01:19] <reisio> oh right
[01:19] <reisio> because you said 'like 1TB from WD'
[01:20] <warfaren> i use NTFS on one of my USB sticks but performance is horrible and safe removal in windows is bitching a lot so not recommended
[01:20] <ghufran> ActionParsnip, mbeierl : what is the significance of the mount point for partitions that are not '/'
[01:20] <mbeierl> reisio: and then also USB sticks :)  For camera cards too.
[01:20] <reisio> maybe
[01:20] <reisio> but a "1TB WD" is probably going to be NTFS, or nothing at all
[01:20] <abstrakt> how do I know if a file is 1080i or 1080p? Here's the output of `ffmpeg -i clip.avi` Stream #0.0: Video: h264 (Main), yuv420p, 1920x1080 [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9]
[01:20] <ghufran> i mean.. will setting the mount point make it auto mount on that location always?
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> ghufran: its how you interface with block devices
[01:21] <mbeierl> ghufran: the mount point is where in the directory structure the file system is going to be shown to you the user
[01:21] <reisio> abstrakt: the aspect ratio would suggest i
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> ghufran: if you define it in /etc/fstab it wil mount to where you say
[01:21] <reisio> abstrakt: #ffmpeg might know more
[01:21] <warfaren> a_p3rson: did you paste thr right line from fstab? it said ext4 not ntfs
[01:21] <a_p3rson> abstrakt: 1920x1080 i believe is 1080p
[01:22] <mbeierl> ghufran: there can be only one "/", which represents the start of the entire file system.  On MS Windows, that is in a way synonymous with "My Computer" (except in Windows, that is not the real root of the filesystem)
[01:22] <a_p3rson> warfaren: different problem now, got the one with the ntfs drive fixed, automounts perfectly
[01:22] <reisio> actually they're both that aspect ration :p
[01:22] <ghufran> ActionParsnip, mbeierl : so i am making three partitions. one is mounted to '/'. one for swap area. and the last one for data and if i set the mount point to /home/Data it will mount it there?
[01:22] <warfaren> u sure? i think 1080i would be considered 1920x1080 too
[01:22] <reisio> yeah
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> ghufran: yes, with the options you set, it will mount at boot
[01:23] <JusticeZero> One: If I were to install xubuntu-desktop, would/could that disrupt anything and makethe computer not work right till fixed? Two: Why won't it let me download it?
[01:23] <warfaren> well maybe the error you have now is because of the automount of ntfs?
[01:23] <reisio> abstrakt: does it mention 'interlace/ing'?
[01:23] <mbeierl> ghufran: yes.  The "/" partition will have /home and then /home/Data and the contents of /home/Data will be the contents of the partition
[01:23] <ghufran> ActionParsnip: so i won't have to put it in fstab?
[01:23] <warfaren> or did you have it before too?
[01:23] <abstrakt> reisio, no that's the only data it has for the video part
[01:23] <abstrakt> that's why i ask
[01:24] <a_p3rson> warfaren: abstrakt: 1080i is 2 frames of 1920x580, 1080p is 1 frame of 1920x1080.
[01:24] <a_p3rson> and, this problem was before the other one.
[01:24] <ghufran> mbeierl: so thats the right 'convention' ?
[01:24] <eigar> ub 11.10. When I disable mouse polling in "copmiz config settings manager" teh manager crashes and closes. Is thre other processes that depends on this then those listed here: http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Mousepoll ? (I use none of them)
[01:24] <eigar> The mousepoll is enabled by default
[01:24] <a_p3rson> ntfs automounting is fixed, this is not.
[01:24] <reisio> abstrakt: how about mplayer -v
[01:24] <aeon-ltd> JusticeZero: first one, no xfce is relatively stable - nothing will happen (besides saving and moving files) until you log out then log into a xfce session
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> ghufran: yes you will have to put it in fstab if you want it to mount in a specific folder
[01:25] <warfaren> yes i know how interlacing kinda halves it but.. would it really change the res showing?
[01:25] <mbeierl> ghufran: yes.  it is a different way of thinking about partitions than Microsoft, but yes, that is the idea
[01:25] <aeon-ltd> JusticeZero: two, lots of reasons - tell the channel more details
[01:26] <warfaren> alright well you said it gave you the option to fix during fsck right? what happens if you do?
[01:26] <eigar> I am trying to get rid of some pointer mess. Sometimes the pointer jumps
[01:27] <a_p3rson> i dont know, should i try it?
[01:27] <JusticeZero> OK, I just don't want any risk of it dislodging any of unity's quirky touchiness. I went to the software center and put in 'xubuntu-desktop' and tried to install it. I get two error dialogs within seconds: "Failed to download package files", then "Requires installation of untrusted packages".
[01:28] <abstrakt> reisio, ok so what would I be looking for in this output
[01:29] <zorba> Anyone here use radeon HD 6000 series? Does it work with gnome 3 or does it artifact?
[01:29] <abstrakt> reisio, does this "MainAVIHeader.dwFlags: (272) HAS_INDEX IS_INTERLEAVED" mean that it's 1080i or is interleaved different than interlaced?
[01:33] <JusticeZero> I don't know what is giving me those two errors when it has my password, permission, and a passable connection.
[01:35] <dewanna> hello i need help
[01:35] <gizmobay> how do you use the find command to find a file with an extension? find / -name vmdk -print doesn't find files with .vmdk
[01:35] <urlin2u> JusticeZero,  "Requires installation of untrusted packages" means 3rd party stuff basically the other explains itself look in software sources as to what repos are open, and maybe change the mirror.
[01:36] <dewanna> can anyone help with my wireless connection
[01:36] <urlin2u> dewanna, you have to describe what the problem is first.
[01:36] <urlin2u> in detail
[01:36] <trism> gizmobay: find / -name '*.vmdk' -print
[01:38] <dewanna> in the panel it shows the internet bars with a"!" beside it when i click to connect it just sys wired connect and it just did this randomly one day and i cant seem to figure it out
[01:40] <arvut> hi. I have a question about tunneling (yes, using ubuntu atm)
[01:42] <warfaren> well go on
[01:42] <_jason> arvut: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[01:42] <arvut> if I would like to reroute all the irc traffic from pc 1 thru router A to router B and then out in the internet, but both routers being on different wan ips (yes I do have full access to them both), as in ipsec or vpn but without need to reach the other lan
[01:42] <dewanna> anyone?
[01:42] <arvut> _jason: =)
[01:43] <arvut> been here before, a lot in the past =)
[01:43] <arvut> !alot
[01:43] <arvut> =)
[01:43] <dewanna> well you guys are alot of help thanks
[01:44] <dewanna> not
[01:44] <warfaren> well personally i use ssh tunnels and tsocks to soksify irssi but im sure theres a better way
[01:44] <arvut> the general idea is to just reroute irc traffic from PC 1 on router 1's lan to router 2 and then from router 2 out on the www
[01:45] <arvut> warfaren: the routers doesnt have ssh servers installed :/
[01:45] <arvut> cheap home equipment
[01:46] <arvut> if I could then I would have a real serverbox behind each lan to handle everything via ssh and whatnot
[01:46] <warfaren> oh.. sorry i was thinking of a machine behind the router.. oh well
[01:46] <arvut> yeah, would be much easier
[01:47] <warfaren> perhaps if you can install dd-wrt or tomato on the router you could run an ssh server on them tho?
[01:47] <warfaren> i hear it will let you do tons of cool stufd
[01:47] <arvut> not opensource routers, so cant do
[01:47] <warfaren> stuff
[01:47] <warfaren> i see :/
[01:48] <warfaren> ok sorry cant help you then. hope someone else can
[01:48] <arvut> common dlinks actually, they support some stuff but never enough
[01:49] <pokpong> i just installed Xorg onto a fresh install of Ubuntu Server 11.10 but after startx the keyboard is not even workin ?!? can someone help me please?
[01:49] <lowkie> arvut, is this for a specific protocol?  irc? http?
[01:49] <arvut> lowkie: yes, I want to tunnel my irc traffic
[01:49] <arvut> can it be encapsulated in ipsec?
[01:50] <BernSamson> how do you terminate a program?
[01:50] <Tech-1> pkill
[01:50] <arvut> or kill
[01:50] <BernSamson> pkill in terminal?
[01:50] <Tech-1> ya
[01:50] <BernSamson> pkill 'app'
[01:50] <Tech-1> ^
[01:50] <BernSamson> thanks
[01:50] <lowkie> arvut, there used to be a program called bounce.  You run it on a server and force it to one irc server.  You use your client to connect to the bounce server and it will "proxy" you to the irc server
[01:50] <Tech-1> np
[01:51] <reisio> abstrakt: sounds like a question for the internet, or #mplayer
[01:51] <pokpong> why does the keyboard works in tty but not in xorg??
[01:52] <BernSamson> didn't work
[01:52] <BernSamson> still up
[01:52] <lowkie> arvut, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_(software)
[01:52] <tf_enya> can I use Realtek ALC883 codec in Ubuntu 10.10?
[01:53] <arvut> lowkie: yeah, but as I mentioned, these routers are only cheap home equipment for setting up a small lan. can't install bouncers on them
[01:53] <Tech-1> try pkill -9
[01:53] <arvut> but ty anyway
[01:53] <warfaren> try ps aux | grep -i appname to find the exact processname
[01:53] <warfaren> or pgrep to get the pid
[01:53] <Tech-1> BernSamson,  + u may have to use proper name
[01:53] <lowkie> arvut, can you setup a tunnel between them?
[01:54] <lowkie> arvut, and use a system behind the 2nd router?
[01:54] <arvut> lowkie: I hope so
[01:54] <arvut> no, the lan on router2 is to be untouched
[01:54] <BernSamson> brb
[01:55] <BernSamson> is it safe to do a restart when an app is hung?
[01:55] <arvut> i go thru router 1, to router 2's wanport, then out again from router2
[01:55] <reisio> BernSamson: safe enough
[01:55] <warfaren> well you shouldnt need to
[01:55] <arvut> kill app first BernSamson
[01:56] <lowkie> arvut, then your only option is if the routers support VPN…you can route ALL traffic over the vpn tunnel
[01:56] <pokpong> anyone knows about configuring Xorg?
[01:56] <BernSamson> I've tried all kindsa ways...I even tried kill --help and it said there was no such thing as --help
[01:56] <BernSamson> brb
[01:56] <reisio> pokpong: what about it
[01:57] <gizmobay> trism: thanks!
[01:57] <x_> what program runs the on screen display?
[01:57] <pokpong> reisio, when I do xstart I get stuck in a terminal but I cant type anything!
[01:58] <arvut> lowkie: hmm, doubt they do. I'm gonna investigate ipsec a bit more tho (and pptp)
[01:58] <almostroot> I'm attempting to do an "apt-get build-dep sage" on 12 machines, but they all return an error about dependencies. (http://pastebin.com/Ev2vWUxs) When I try to install the dependencies, it returns an error about broken packages. (http://pastebin.com/btsT79Zu) I'm used to yum, so any help would be appreciated.
[01:59] <willwh> hi folks - anyone use screen & irssi? seems there is a bug somewhere - after some indeterminable time, my irssi starts spewning, "can write to away.log (or any log) - file not found" - if I open a new terminal inside screen, I wind up at, willwh@web~$(unreachable) - but, if I do an 'ls' - I am in /home/willwh....... any ideas how on earth I go about debugging this?
[01:59] <reisio> pokpong: is it all black?
[01:59] <reisio> willwh: #screen or #irssi might know better
[01:59] <_jason> willwh: are you confident the issue does not exist with irssi outside screen?
[02:00] <willwh> _jason: 100%
[02:00] <Reikoku> Anyone else having issues with Empathy connecting to MSN?
[02:00] <willwh> I will try #screen tho - good call reisio :)
[02:00] <_jason> willwh: how did you start irssi and screen exactly?
[02:01] <pokpong> reisio, yes and i was even able to startx -e x-terminal-emulator which brought me into a white terminal instead but still no keyboard working
[02:01] <maheanuu> I have some very large files that I have downloaded (larger than 6 gigs) and I want to transfer them to a portable external drive so that I can share them with others and not have to carry my computer to do so, is there any way that I can do this without splitting the file into smaller sections?
[02:01] <x_> isn'ty notify notify-osd but how can I manually start it. I can't find an executable
[02:01] <x_> I want to run it w/ fluxbox.
[02:02] <_jason> maheanuu: sure, don't use vfat
[02:03] <willwh> _jason: screen -S irc && irssi
[02:03] <willwh> basically
[02:03] <willwh> I've also tried with byobu
[02:03] <willwh> I just ssh in to the box and it connects to my running session
[02:03] <_jason> willwh: what did you run in your terminal before that?
[02:03] <willwh> this is with all fresh terms
[02:03] <willwh> I gtg for dinner
[02:03] <willwh> back in a bit - I'll pm ya _jason
[02:03] <willwh> :)
[02:03] <maheanuu> _jason,  what should I use, I was thinking of using NTFS but I have had a lot of probs on corruption of the drive between Ubuntu and NTFS
[02:04] <_jason> mediat0r: ntfs if you need to deal with windows users.  What exactly does "corruption of the drive" mean?
[02:06] <maheanuu> I have to deal with windows users (family) and the drives become unreadable I have 3 at present that have all my photography files on them and I am trying to save 15 years of photos on those
[02:06] <maheanuu> _jason, they all worked wonderfully then slowly became unreadable
[02:06] <dr_willis> maheanuu:  ddrescue the drives to a image file, and try to recover from the image file. is what i did the other day for a failing 1 TB hd.
[02:08] <_jason> maheanuu: how do they *slowly* become unreadable?
[02:08] <maheanuu> _jason, I was getting read errors intermittently then they quit
[02:09] <bagels> hi guys.  I just bought a Dell Inspiron Duo, and want to know how to install drivers for the touchscreen and screen rotation?
[02:10] <Lizard_> Aww man
[02:10] <Lizard_> Lizard is already in use :'(
[02:10] <Lizard_> By the way, I'm new to the community
[02:10] <Lizard_> Nice to meet you all
[02:10] <reisio> pokpong: is there some reason you're not using a login manager (lightdm, gdm)?
[02:10] <Tech-1> crawl over to a new nic
[02:10] <Tech-1> lol
[02:10] <Lizard_> =\
[02:10] <maheanuu> dr-willis,I have a 1t and a 1.5t along with a 500 gig that are not readable
[02:10] <reisio> bagels: got a model number?
[02:11] <x_> can someone tell me where to find / how to start notify-osd manually ( I have it installed but can't find how to start it lolz)
[02:11] <dr_willis> maheanuu:  if you are lucky ddrescue will recover them.. and/or photorec..  it took me a week to recovery my 1tb.. but i got like 99% of the files from it.
[02:11] <dr_willis> x_:  what are you wanting to do to it? its installed/used by the default gnome..
[02:12] <x_> dr_willis, im on fluxbox checking it out, can I run notify-osd on fluxbox ?
[02:12] <pokpong> reisio, i have installed Xorg on ubuntu server and only want to startx when I want to watch a movie
[02:12] <eigar> ub 11.10. When I disable mouse polling in "copmiz config settings manager" the manager crashes and closes. The polling does not get disabled either. Where is the config file for this?
[02:12] <leonardo-gois> que comando posso usar para tira o convidado?????????
[02:12] <bagels> reisio As far as I know, "Inspiron Duo" is the model, i couldn't find one on the bottom of the computer.
[02:13] <dr_willis> x_:  cant say ive really tried. its a service startred by the gnome/ubuntu desktop. theres some notify-osd command that lets you create custom notificatoons. Its most likely started as part of the gnome system services.
[02:13] <x_> dr_willis, info on the ubuntu website says it should be notify-osd but I can't find that anywhere and I know it's installed....
[02:13] <reisio> pokpong: okay, did you install a window manager?
[02:14] <reisio> pokpong: are you sure you wouldn't prefer just using framebuffer?
[02:14] <dr_willis> x_:  i only have a 'notify-send' here as a command.
[02:14] <reisio> bagels: can you pastebin what's in /dev/input/by-id/
[02:15] <Dr_Azil> I just made the mistake of checking how many channels there were...
[02:15] <pokpong> reisio, i did not install a window manager since i just want to display one application output, my movie player
[02:15] <x_> dr_willis, me too ;\
[02:15] <pokpong> reisio, framebuffer??
[02:15] <reisio> pokpong: okay
[02:15] <dr_willis> x_:  i think those docs may be outdated.
[02:15] <reisio> pokpong: mplayer can play to the framebuffer
[02:15] <reisio> pokpong: you don't need X
[02:15] <pokpong> wow
[02:15] <dr_willis> pokpong:  even in such a case. ive always used a minimal window manager.
[02:15] <pokpong> reisio, ill check that!
[02:15] <SuperNoeMan> hey what kernel version is ubuntu 11.10
[02:16] <reisio> pokpong: I don't know what particulars there might be for Ubuntu Server; here are the details for Gentoo some of which will remain relevant: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Mplayer_on_Framebuffer
[02:16] <dr_willis> last i looked mplayer in the framebuffer had limitiations in some res's and other features. but it may be better now.
[02:16] <reisio> never had a problem with it
[02:16] <reisio> I've played widescreen, not widescreen, subtitled
[02:16] <reisio> anyways, beats having X on a server
[02:16] <yeats> !info linux | SuperNoeMan
[02:16] <dr_willis> the geexbox disrto moved from using mplayer in framebuffer to usingit in a minimal X server setup. but this was 2 yrs ago they switched.
[02:17] <Tech-1> huh, mandrivia just came out w/a new player which is inbetween mplayer and smplayer
[02:17] <PeDor> hi, someone knows a equalizer that works with ubuntu 11.10?
[02:17] <reisio> that's their problem :p
[02:17] <reisio> Tech-1: yeah, what?
[02:17] <Tech-1> ya
[02:17] <Tech-1> i aint tried it yet tho
[02:18] <pokpong> reisio, thanks a lot
[02:20] <x_> dr_willis, actually I just ended up using xfe4-volumed since thats all I needed anyway :-D
[02:20] <reisio> Tech-1: ...does it have a name?
[02:21] <Tech-1> do a search, it was dayviewed on linux-today about 3 days ago
[02:22] <almostroot> Okay, so I've narrowed my issue down to the system won't update. It looks like it is getting the repo information, and not returning any error codes, but an apt-get update returns 0 packages to be updated, yet I am seeing outdated packages.
[02:23] <noahk11> Hello
[02:23] <dr_willis> almostroot:  how are you seeing outdated packages?
[02:23] <noahk11> I got free time to help so just holler :)
[02:24] <almostroot> dr_willis: Dependency issues and I'm using kernel version 2.6.32-28-generic on 10.04 when I know the current is 2.6.32-35-generic.
[02:25] <dr_willis> almostroot:  tried a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and see what it suggests?
[02:25] <reisio> bagels: ?
[02:25] <almostroot> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:26] <pokpong> reisio, will play only as root....and no sound
[02:26] <dr_willis> work time for me.. bbl.
[02:26] <x_> so, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop restarts X leaving me at login screen. But how would I go about killing x, completely and going to a text terminal in the same tty.
[02:27] <Black19> I need some help with Banshee, some one?
[02:27] <Black19> plz
[02:28] <gunfire007> Black19: what help ?
[02:28] <kantxx> anyone here have issues w/ ubuntu 11.10 as a virtualbox guest? i cant install vboxsf modules
[02:28] <Black19> Thanks gunfire007, I cant add an Itunes podcast,
[02:28] <PeeOnYou> oh my god
[02:28] <PeeOnYou> i reinstalled ubuntu a few weeks back because i lost the unity stuff
[02:29] <reisio> pokpong: mplayer -ao help
[02:29] <PeeOnYou> and couldn't for the life of me figure out how to get it back
[02:29] <PeeOnYou> :@
[02:29] <reisio> pokpong: also I've no idea if the server edition comes with ALSA setup
[02:29] <PeeOnYou> just did it again and found the most simple solution
[02:29]  * PeeOnYou facepalms
[02:29] <gunfire007> Black19: try converting the format of the podcast or use Amarok which has a good support
[02:29] <reisio> PeeOnYou: ask next time :p
[02:29] <PeeOnYou> well at that time i didn't have any irc clients
[02:29] <gunfire007> reisio: :)
[02:30] <PeeOnYou> and i didn't know what to google
[02:30] <PeeOnYou> :P
[02:30] <Black19> ok, let me see gunfire007
[02:30] <reisio> PeeOnYou: google webchat.freenode.net
[02:30] <gunfire007> Black19: :) have fun
[02:30] <PeeOnYou> aye
[02:30] <PeeOnYou> ill remember that
[02:30] <a111> does canada still use miles for distance?
[02:31] <almostroot> So both aptitude and apt-get report zero packages to be upgraded, but the whole system is outdated.
[02:31] <pokpong> alll: no
[02:31] <reisio> a111: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avoirdupois
[02:31] <LittleLost> can somebody help with easycap (video capture card) failure after upgrade to 10.04 2.6.32-35 kernel.
[02:32] <almostroot> It is a fresh 10.04.2 Xubuntu install.
[02:32] <kantxx> bbl
[02:32] <sausagesquatch> hello
[02:32] <reisio> hi
[02:33] <pokpong> alll: no, official unit is km
[02:33] <pokpong> !pin g
[02:33] <bagels> how do I use a touchscreen in ubuntu?
[02:33] <pokpong> !ping
[02:34] <neil_ubuntu> Good day to all
[02:34] <neil_ubuntu> Good day
[02:36] <neil_adroid> !seen anc
[02:37] <neil_ubuntu> !ping
[02:38] <milamber> almostroot: what do you mean whole system is outdated?
[02:38] <Guest89514> 嗨！大家好，有没有人会说中文？
[02:38] <milamber> !cn
[02:39] <Guest89514> 嗯，谢谢
[02:39] <almostroot> milamber: It is a fresh install. No updates have run.
[02:39] <almostroot> run==installed
[02:41] <Guest95867> Pessoal. Novato na area. Como eu uso isso aqui?
[02:42] <milamber> almostroot: what is the output of uname -v?
[02:43] <almostroot> milamber: "#55-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 10 23:42:43 UTC 2011"
[02:43] <Guest95867> Anyone there?
[02:43] <jjjrmy> Help!
[02:43] <milamber> almostroot: sorry, uname -r
[02:44] <jjjrmy> How can I open up the file explorer as sudo?
[02:44] <almostroot> milamber: 2.6.32-28-generic
[02:44] <Tech-1> Its the holiday season, help may or not be found on an immediate basis, please be patient.
[02:44] <mmfei> sudo nautilus
[02:44] <milamber> jjjrmy: you shouldn't run any graphical applications w/ sudo, run: gksu nautilus
[02:44] <willwh> no
[02:44] <willwh> you should not use sudo nautilus
[02:44] <willwh> gksudo if you are opening GUI stuff as root.
[02:44] <willwh> gksudo?
[02:45] <reisio> gksu
[02:45] <willwh> ubottu:
[02:45] <reisio> although I hardly see the difference
[02:45] <milamber> !gksu
[02:47] <reisio> "Why is it an issue?\nWell, to be perfectly honest, most of the time it isn't." :p
[02:47] <jjjrmy> milamber: I just downloaded a .deb file, how do I install it?
[02:47] <Tech-1> click on it
[02:47] <Tech-1> lol
[02:48] <e75> hey
[02:48] <Guest89514> dpkg -i a.deb
[02:48] <ii8ii> Newbie to Ubuntu for about a few months now.  Ditched Windows....out the window.
[02:48] <e75> how do i restart alsa on ubuntu? my microphone isn't working. sometimes it will work on ubuntu, other times it won't
[02:49] <sausagesquatch> why cant i get ubuntu to boot i used wubi to download and install whats the prob
[02:49] <reisio> jjjrmy: a deb file of what?
[02:49] <reisio> sausagesquatch: what happens when you try to have it boot?
[02:49] <reisio> ii8ii: fun?
[02:49] <flowingfirefly> fun?
[02:50] <reisio> flowingfirefly: what's that
[02:50]  * reisio goes back to work
[02:50] <sausagesquatch> windows starts it doesent ask whitch os to start and i looked on the os choices menu and its not present
[02:52] <willwh> sausagesquatch: grub got hosed
[02:52] <willwh> or windows overwrote your MBR
[02:52] <jeroth> Question: I have set my power settings to never Hibernate. Where do I change the option to Not turn off my monitor? My computer still goes black and wont recover? Thanks!
[02:52] <reisio> willwh: he used wubi
[02:52] <willwh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:52] <willwh> ohh
[02:52] <reisio> jeroth: somewhere around the same pref area I would think
[02:52] <reisio> sausagesquatch: ignore that
[02:52] <sausagesquatch> well i looked in the grub folder and it is empty
[02:53] <sausagesquatch> so is the boot folder
[02:53] <reisio> sausagesquatch: I imagine the manual way to fix that would utilize EasyBCD
[02:53] <jeroth> reisio: Power options under system settings only has two options. Suspend and Hibernate. Which are both off. I cant find the option for monitors?
[02:53] <sausagesquatch> whats easy bcd
[02:56] <sausagesquatch> reisio: what is easy bcd
[02:56] <sausagesquatch> sausagesquatch
[02:57] <meshuggah> heya everyone
[02:57] <meshuggah> is there any ubuntu application to control webcam?
[02:57] <meshuggah> focus, sharpness, this kind of things?
[02:57] <sausagesquatch> so what shall i do
[02:57] <boxbeatsy> hi all, i just installed ubuntu 10.04 on a fresh system, and i have no internet connection.  i've found a thread on the forums that addresses my problem.  however, they're asking me to install build-essentials from my install CD, but when i enabled the CD in Software Sources, i got a unable to download error and when i try to apt-get install build-essentials, the terminal showed some errors and was not installed
[02:58] <boxbeatsy> does anyone know why i can't instal build-essentials from my install cd?
[02:58] <reisio> sausagesquatch: it's a Windows app for managing boot loading
[02:58] <reisio> sausagesquatch: 'fraid I don't know anything about broken Wubi installs
[02:58] <sausagesquatch> ohh ok
[02:59] <reisio> boxbeatsy: how're you trying to?
[02:59] <reisio> meshuggah: guvcview?
[02:59] <rypervenche> `/b 1
[02:59] <rypervenche> oops
[02:59] <boxbeatsy> reisio: well i enabled the cd as a software source via synaptic
[02:59] <meshuggah> reisio, thank u i will try
[02:59] <boxbeatsy> reisio: and then i installed build-essentials with apt-get
[02:59] <boxbeatsy> both yielded errors though
[02:59] <LinuxRants> Does anybody know of any good video conversion applications for ubuntu?
[03:01] <sausagesquatch> where do i get easy bcd for free
[03:03] <rypervenche> LinuxRants: ffmpeg
[03:03] <Mirx> Hello
[03:03] <willwh> LinuxRants: handbrake.fr
[03:03] <willwh> it's awesome if you want something with a gui etc etc
[03:04] <boxbeatsy> when i try to apt-get install build-essentials, i get a series of error messages starting with "failed to fetch cdrom: [Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS ...]
[03:04] <willwh> other than that though - ffmpeg ftw (but always build from source) :)
[03:04] <willwh> boxbeatsy: open up your Software Sources
[03:04] <flowingfirefly> I can't find Chinese chanel, 杯具啊！
[03:04] <CarlFK> boxbeatsy: i doubt build-essentials is on the cd
[03:04] <litheum> how can i cause an upstart job to depend on a SystemV script?
[03:05] <willwh> flowingfirefly: #ubuntu-cn
[03:05] <willwh> I believe
[03:05] <Mirx> Can any1 direct me to a channel on IRC newbies
[03:05] <willwh> ubottu: irc?
[03:05] <willwh> irc?
[03:06] <willwh> Mirx: feel free to pm me with IRC questions... :]
[03:06] <willwh> Mirx: also, type, /topic - and check out the links ;)
[03:06] <gischy> ^^
[03:06] <flowingfirefly> bot, can you teach me how to creat a bot?
[03:07] <boxbeatsy> willwh: i've got sofware sources open, and the CD option selected
[03:07] <CarlFK> irc! | Mirx
[03:07] <willwh> boxbeatsy: so deselect
[03:07] <willwh> :)
[03:07] <Mirx> CarlFK:  irc!
[03:07] <boxbeatsy> willwh: but, i dont' have internet connection, so i have no other source to get build-essentials from
[03:07] <willwh> and then, refresh your sources / run sudo apt-get update from a terminal
[03:07] <willwh> :)
[03:07] <willwh> oh
[03:07] <willwh> ohhh
[03:07] <milamber> !cn | flowingfirefly
[03:07] <FloodBot1> willwh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:08] <boxbeatsy> this thread addresses my issue, and it seems corroborated that the live cd is supposd to have build-essentials on it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1505697
[03:08] <Mirx> irc!
[03:08] <willwh> it should, but I think you can also create CDs/DVDs of current packages
[03:08] <milamber> !irc > Mirx
[03:08] <willwh> boxbeatsy: how are you on IRC without internet access? ;)
[03:09] <boxbeatsy> willwh: primray computer, i bought a new laptop today and i'm trying to move over :P
[03:09] <Gaijin> hello - trying to compile something but getting error asking me to specify locations of 3 items, where would these be on a 64 bit build? GMP 4.2+, MPFR 2.3.1+ and MPC 0.8.0+.
[03:09] <Mirx> ubottu: irc
[03:09] <boxbeatsy> willwh: is there a tutorial somewhere tha twill show me how to create a CD of build-essentiasl?
[03:09] <Mirx> milamber: irc
[03:09] <willwh> boxbeatsy: I would just plug your lappy in to the router and install :)
[03:09] <CarlFK> boxbeatsy: where do you see build-essentials on that ubuntuforums page?
[03:10] <meshuggah> is there any ubuntu application to control webcam, focus, sharpness, this kind of thing?
[03:10] <milamber> boxbeatsy: you just have to edit your sources list and comment out the cd
[03:10] <boxbeatsy> CarlFK: #6
[03:10] <quixotedon> dear all, how to delete a program you have installed through wine?? the fact is i used wine on 11.04 after upgrading to 11.10, wine is gone/removed but the programs i installed are still there in the app list
[03:11] <boxbeatsy> milamber: the CD is the source I need to get build-essential from though.  or, is there another?
[03:11] <milamber> meshuggah: try the program cheese?
[03:11] <boxbeatsy> willwh: the problem im fixing is that i have a disabled network card so that's not anoption
[03:11] <willwh> on a brand new laptop?
[03:11] <pist0l-fish> gcc is giving me errors about ANY library i try to link to the program i'm compiling. for example, -lpthread gives me things like, "undefined reference to `pthread_create`"
[03:12] <pist0l-fish> is anyone else experiencing this? i'm on 11.10
[03:12] <willwh> boxbeatsy: it's probably just disabled in the bios
[03:12] <willwh> enable it and save yourself the pain
[03:12] <milamber> boxbeatsy: can you be more specific about what errors you were getting?
[03:12] <boxbeatsy> willwh: it works when i boot into windows though
[03:12] <CarlFK> boxbeatsy: I am pretty sure build-essential is not on the cd.  but don't give up.. you can use a usb stick... just a sec
[03:13] <boxbeatsy> kk
[03:13] <willwh> boxbeatsy: you're talking about the wireless?
[03:13] <boxbeatsy> both wired/wireless dont work
[03:13] <CarlFK> boxbeatsy: actually it is kinda odd that wired doesn't work.   might want to invistigate that
[03:13] <Mirx> Any other information about IRC for a beginner
[03:13] <willwh> Mirx: google it.
[03:14] <Mirx> ubottu didn't tell me much
[03:14] <willwh> the #ubuntu channel is not really the place to ask for basic IRC stuff
[03:14] <the_cyber_guy> i have somehow messed up with ubuntu network drivers for the wifi and mobile broadband devices, how can they be repaired ?
[03:14] <boxbeatsy> CarlFK: according to the forum thread, my ethernet hardware is new and doesn't have driver support in Ubuntu 10.04
[03:14] <boxbeatsy> CarlFK: however, there's a driver included in the compat-wireless stack that i can use
[03:14] <almoxarife> !info build-essentials
[03:14] <Mirx> willwh:  i know and am trying to find where to go
[03:14] <boxbeatsy> CarlFK: problem is, to install it i need build-essential
[03:15] <Dr_Azil> Having difficulty downloading Ubuntu
[03:15] <willwh> Mirx: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=IRC+basics
[03:15] <Mirx> willwh:  I willl check that out now.  Thx
[03:15] <boxbeatsy> milamber: when i tried to enable the CD as a software source via synaptic, it tried to dl some repository related files but failed to do so.  and then when i tried to apt-get install build-essential it spits out a series of errors all starting with "failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS]....
[03:15]  * willwh facepalms
[03:15] <pist0l-fish> can anyone help with the linker errors?
[03:16] <willwh> pist0l-fish: I haven't had an issue like that (running 11.10)
[03:16] <Mirx> ubottu: hacking
[03:16] <pist0l-fish> willwh: where is your pthread library located, out of curiosity
[03:16] <CarlFK> boxbeatsy: weird.  so in syaptic, File, "generate download script" which will let you download all the .deb files you need for build-essential.  put them on a usb sitck, stick in laptop.. and.. ummmm pray :)
[03:16] <willwh> Mirx: if you are interested about learning more about security etc - check out backtrack.
[03:17] <Mirx> ubottu: backtrack
[03:17] <Mirx> willwh:  Backtrack?  Where
[03:17] <Mirx> A channel?
[03:17] <willwh> Mirx: stop trolling
[03:17] <reisio> unless it comes with a manual, Backtrack won't learn you any more than Ubuntu, anyways
[03:17] <Mirx> willwh:  What's trolling
[03:17] <willwh> Mirx: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
[03:17] <Mirx> ubottu: trolling
[03:18] <pist0l-fish> i think my installation is missing all libraries...
[03:18] <CarlFK> Mirx: you are posting too much that is off topic.
[03:18] <pist0l-fish> willwh: can you just tell me where the path is to your libraries?
[03:19] <pist0l-fish> ...no?
[03:19] <CarlFK> boxbeatsy: I don't suppose the laptop has firewire?  and you have cables...
[03:19] <milamber> boxbeatsy: here is the answer to you question: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptMoveHowto/simple
[03:19] <Mirx> CarlFk, Sorry
[03:19] <willwh> pist0l-fish: yes, sorry
[03:19] <willwh> /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread-2.13.so
[03:19] <milamber> boxbeatsy: if you are getting that many other errors, you may have something else going on
[03:19] <willwh> /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
[03:19] <Mirx> ubottu: troll
[03:19] <KeySatara> Buuuenas
[03:19] <willwh> but that box is only 32bit
[03:19] <willwh> I am assuming you're running x64?
[03:20] <pist0l-fish> willwh: yes
[03:20] <boxbeatsy> milamber: ok, i will try that
[03:20] <the_cyber_guy> how can i get back the default ubuntu drivers for wifi and mobile broadband ?
[03:20] <boxbeatsy> CarlFK: nope
[03:21] <pist0l-fish> i seem to have both... grumble.
[03:21] <pist0l-fish> screw developing on ubuntu, i don't have the time nor the patience to figure this out
[03:22] <milamber> pist0l-fish: can you pastebin the compile command you are using and the errors? you haven't really provided specific enough info for anyone to be able to help
[03:22] <yeats> pist0l-fish: this isn't really a developer channel... more straight up system support
[03:22] <pist0l-fish> milamber: http://codepad.org/Cbtg8Jil
[03:23] <pist0l-fish> also, i couldn't find where apt-get put libsqlite3's library files, although i did find the header file
[03:24] <willwh> pist0l-fish: sudo updatedb && locate whateveryouarelookingfor
[03:24] <sodani> can i install ruby 1.9.2 on ubuntu with apt-get?
[03:24] <willwh> ?
[03:24] <yeats> !info ruby
[03:24] <CarlFK> boxbeatsy: oh, once you have that script, you run it on a box with net access, then put it back in laptop and run the option right under it "add downloaded packages"
[03:24] <yeats> !info ruby1.9
[03:25] <pist0l-fish> willwh: oooo file indexing, i am not used to such luxuries. this is way better than using `find`
[03:25] <willwh> :]
[03:25] <willwh> pist0l-fish: don't write ubuntu off just yet ;]
[03:26] <pist0l-fish> willwh: haha okay i will not
[03:26] <milamber> pist0l-fish: did you find your missing library?
[03:26] <pist0l-fish> so it seems like everything is in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[03:26] <willwh> pist0l-fish: what have you been developing on prior? :]
[03:27] <pist0l-fish> willwh: arch linux, i installed ubuntu on this system because i already had a bootcamp'd imac, and was lazy
[03:27] <pist0l-fish> (used wubi)
[03:27] <willwh> ah :)
[03:27] <willwh> yeah arch is nice, but, tbh, I don't have the time
[03:27] <willwh> give me something with a vibrant community & precompiled packages
[03:27] <willwh> to be fair - a few things I do compile from source (eggdrop / ffmpeg etc)
[03:28] <pist0l-fish> you'd be surprised- there's very little compilation in arch, and the community is pretty big. most people get the popular packages as binaries
[03:28] <willwh> I guess that is Arch though - it's been a long time since I've touched it
[03:28] <willwh> it's pacman right?
[03:28] <willwh> the arch package manager
[03:28] <pist0l-fish> yeah... i love pacman
[03:28] <pist0l-fish> so i wonder why the appropriate env variables do not get set on gcc to use the path i just wrote down. should i report this as a bug for x64?
[03:29] <willwh> I'd certainly take a look at launchpad
[03:29] <willwh> for existing bugs
[03:29] <willwh> launchpad? > pist0l-fish
[03:29] <willwh> is that the righ syntax for ubottu?
[03:30] <milamber> !launchpad
[03:31] <willwh> thx milamber :)
[03:31] <milamber> willwh: factoids are preceded with the exclamation point. a | will send it to the user on the channel and a > will send a pm
[03:31] <kookykookie> Hi, i compiled and installed a lucid kernel on maverick. The new kernel is missing build from lib/module
[03:31] <pist0l-fish> hmm, i added that to my library paths and it still gives me linker errors. actually, that makes sense, because it would have failed before the linker had it not found the right libraries
[03:31] <milamber> !ubottu | willwh
[03:32] <willwh> milamber: is he an eggdrop or what? totally custom? :)
[03:32] <kookykookie> is there a workaround to get the kernel-dev?
[03:32] <yeats> willwh: supybot with custom plugins
[03:32] <milamber> willwh: she's actually a she :)
[03:33] <milamber> willwh: supybot i think
[03:33] <kookykookie> do i make sense?
[03:34] <milamber> !compilekernel | kookykookie
[03:34] <PeeOnYou> jeez anytime i make a change in ccsm it crashes
[03:34] <PeeOnYou> and i have to do unity --reset
[03:34] <willwh> I'm out o/
[03:34] <kookykookie> lol Thanks
[03:35] <threonine> what program creates an iso for a DVD avi,mkv etc file?
[03:35]  * pist0l-fish gives up on ubuntu
[03:35] <milamber> kookykookie: wish i could be more help, but custom compiling the kernel is not something i am familiar with. if you come back later there may be someone more comfortable to help
[03:36] <milamber> threonine: do you have a file you want to turn in to an iso or do you have a dvd you want to make a backup of?
[03:37] <e75> how can i restart alsa?
[03:37] <kookykookie> Thats ok. I found some packages i can try installing on that wiki page
[03:37] <threonine> milamber, i am trying to make DVD movies
[03:37] <milamber> !avidemux
[03:38] <Northwoods> how can i open /home/extra/ with all rights to change it
[03:38] <Tech-1> devede
[03:38] <Northwoods> although i'm logged in as root
[03:38] <milamber> threonine: i believe you can do it w/ avidemux
[03:38] <Northwoods> it doesn't let me manipulate folders
[03:38] <Northwoods> i did nautilius
[03:38] <milamber> Northwoods: how did you open nautilus?
[03:39] <Northwoods> nautilus
[03:39] <Northwoods> simply typed this in terminal
[03:39] <milamber> Northwoods: try: gksudo nautilus
[03:40] <Northwoods> yes worked , thanks
[03:40] <milamber> Northwoods: np
[03:41] <threonine> milamber, avidemux doesn't let you create a DVD that you can play on your dvd player
[03:41] <Tech-1> threonine,  devede
[03:42] <Tech-1> threonine,  if you do use it, and are in the usa, make sure its set to ntsc
[03:44] <threonine> Tech-1, thanks but Devede has bad quality compared to ConvertXtoDVD thats the only reason i need it.
[03:45] <Tech-1> i c
[03:46] <kookykookie> can i use dpkg to fetch dependencies for a .deb?
[03:47] <tensorpudding> apt-get build-dep
[03:47] <vicsar> .
[03:48] <kookykookie> the .deb package isnt listed in apt-get
[03:48] <emmetea> what command would i use if i wanted to add other operating systems to grubs menu since installation didn't notice them?
[03:49] <Tech-1> sudo update-grub
[03:49] <Tech-1> then u may have to reboot
[03:49] <hilarie> Hey you guys are smart.. I am install znc on my server, and its asking for an ident
[03:49] <hilarie> Whats that?
[03:49] <emmetea> Tech-1, but when i do that it only find the linux partitions
[03:50] <Tech-1> huh, u got windoze on it 2 ??
[03:50] <emmetea> well and the memtest image
[03:50] <emmetea> yeah, two flavours
[03:50] <Tech-1> huh, you may have to go and redo the mbr in win
[03:51] <Tech-1> ive only done it once and got lucky
[03:51] <brewster> what is up with brasero and all of the other disk writing programs
[03:52] <brewster> they all think that dvd's are 1gb
[03:52] <e75> so
[03:52] <Tech-1> lol
[03:52] <e75> anyone
[03:52] <e75> know how i can restart alsa?
[03:52] <brewster> last time i checked that wasn't the case
[03:52] <Tech-1>  /etc/init.d start alsa ?
[03:53] <Tech-1> brewster,  k3b is awesome
[03:53] <brewster> tried it
[03:54] <brewster> it said i didn't have all the video files
[03:54] <brewster> and i was writing movie files to a dvd
[03:54] <brewster> then it closed
[03:54] <Tech-1> ya, it can be buggy the first time around, but it catches on
[03:54] <CaptAnon> Help: I downloaded the source of that game airstrike and now I want to learn how to compile(install?) it
[03:55] <CaptAnon> Can anyone help me with this?
[03:55] <brewster> CaptAnon: usually ./configure; make; sudo make install
[03:55] <brewster> given you have all the requirements
[03:56] <CaptAnon> brewster,  brb testing
[03:56] <brewster> wait
[03:56] <brewster> or you can just download it from the software center
[03:56] <Loshki> brewster: I've always found brasero to be particularly bug-ridden. How about burning from the command line?
[03:56] <brewster> that always works for me
[03:57] <brewster> uhh not my favorite thing to do
[03:57] <Tech-1> brewster,  do you have libdvdread4  and libdvdcss2 installed ?
[03:57] <CaptAnon> brewster, I can do that but I'm learning how to compile and better myself
[03:57] <boxbeatsy> milamber: hi, after getting to step 4 of the tutorial you sent me, i'm getting an error saying that the Packages.gz file does not exist.  it seems like apt-move update isn't actually creating the Packages file.  do you know what my problem might be?
[03:58] <brewster> CaptAnon: you should google c tutorial if you want to learn that sort of thing
[03:58] <hilarie> sooo, lets say you don't have access to the server and you get this while sshing :'( Agent admitted failure to sign using the key.
[03:58] <CaptAnon> ok but how do you know it is c?
[03:58] <brewster> you learn the most from figuring it out ;]
[03:58] <brewster> or c++
[03:59] <brewster> if you have to compile it then it's typically java c or c++
[03:59] <brewster> or C#
[03:59] <brewster> Tech-1: must they be the -dev's
[03:59] <almostroot> So I've yet to resolve my issue, but inside of /var/lib/apt/lists, the files reflect the current versions. For some reason, apt is refusing to compare the installed packages with the new ones. Is there some hidden option that would prevent updates from being processed?
[03:59] <Tech-1> its in medibuntu repos
[03:59] <Tech-1> or
[03:59] <edgy> Hi, how can I create a qcow2 image from virt-manager to install on it? I couldn't find the option in the wizard!
[04:00] <Tech-1> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:00] <CaptAnon> brewster,  ok the install file in the source( i think its the source) says I need a c compiler, does this mean c or could it be one of those variants of c you mentioned?
[04:01] <brewster> CaptAnon: ubuntu usually comes with a c compiler
[04:01] <CaptAnon> yes I have gcc
[04:01] <brewster> just use those above commands
[04:01] <Tech-1> brewster,
[04:01] <Tech-1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[04:01] <Tech-1> its all there
[04:01] <brewster> oh you were talking to me then
[04:02] <CaptAnon> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[04:02] <brewster> are there any .sh files?
[04:03] <brewster> they'll typically say something like automake or autoconf or something similar if i'm remembering correctly
[04:03] <CaptAnon> in the utils folder there is
[04:03] <html> how do i fix the login mangers ?
[04:03] <CaptAnon> I'm going to be too much work, I will just find a tutorial
[04:03] <html> hi
[04:04] <brewster> CaptAnon: hold on
[04:04] <CaptAnon> ok
[04:05] <CaptAnon> How much practise with programming will it take for me to be able to produce something useful?
[04:05] <Guest43213> hello, I'm using ubuntu 11.10, is there a way to replace the kernel 3.0 by the kernel 2.6
[04:05] <Guest43213> ^
[04:05] <Guest43213> ?
[04:05] <Guest43213> thanks
[04:05] <brewster> CaptAnon: i find that taking a class is a good place to get comfortable with programming
[04:06] <brewster> although some people learn better by teaching themselves
[04:06] <threonine> how do I get wine to notice my DVD/CD drive?
[04:06] <brewster> if i were to teach someone how to program i would teach them python or java
[04:06] <Tech-1> Guest43213,  if its in the official repos you x=can, if not, i wouldnt
[04:06] <CaptAnon> brewster, Hahaha I'm trapped on a farm in australia
[04:07] <brewster> but i wouldn't start with c
[04:07] <brewster> but you do have internet ;]
[04:07] <brewster> python.org
[04:07] <CaptAnon> well I would like to play with that game, just mess with the code
[04:07] <brewster> ^go there
[04:07] <dr_willis> python gets my vote.
[04:07] <brewster> hellz yeah
[04:07] <CaptAnon> I would like to change the physics of the aircraft
[04:07] <brewster> python ftw
[04:07] <CaptAnon> Yeah I heard python is good
[04:08] <dr_willis> but i know more perl and rexx then i do python
[04:08] <html> Guest43213,  please for the sake of all, and and the comfort of knowing who ,or which "guest "we are talking to ...so please change your name and in the end it is more productive this way
[04:08] <Dr_Azil> My download for Ubuntu has just sped up :)
[04:08] <html> hi doc
[04:08] <html> hi all
[04:08] <Dr_Azil> Y'ello
[04:08] <CaptAnon> His name was Jacob_ but he changed it
[04:09] <Dr_Azil> My name?
[04:09] <html> wait we have 2 doctors in here?
[04:09] <Dr_Azil> Someone was already using my normal name, Lizard, so I just used Lizard backwards
[04:09] <kla> either C or lua. python schmython </ot>
[04:09] <Tech-1> lol
[04:09] <Tech-1> backwards
[04:09] <Tech-1> nice
[04:09] <brewster> CaptAnon: for now install from the software center. Go learn some python if you're interested in programming. Then build your way up to the c's with java then c++ then c
[04:10] <Dr_Azil> One of the rare moments I show some wit
[04:10] <Tech-1> cool, well done
[04:10] <hot2trot> I virtualize ubuntu 11.10 through vmware fusion, and when I un-suspend an instance of ubuntu, and if I had a sshfs mounted, and I try to ls that directory, it just infinitely hangs... any ideas?
[04:10] <Tech-1> brb
[04:11] <Dr_Azil> Danke
[04:11] <CaptAnon> brewster,  That will take years
[04:11] <brewster> nah
[04:11] <brewster> it took me a month to learn python
[04:11] <CaptAnon> my attention span will only give me a few hours
[04:11] <CaptAnon> from scratch?
[04:11] <brewster> yep
[04:11] <html> does any one know about logon mangers? cuz im stepped in it really deep this time..
[04:11] <brewster> maybe 2 to learn c++
[04:11] <almostroot> I recommend against python, as per my professor. I agree with him that it makes you lazy and teaches you bad habits.
[04:11] <brewster> the same for c
[04:12] <CaptAnon> ok and how many hours a day, and what could you do at the end of that month?
[04:12] <reisio> almostroot: what does he recommend?
[04:12]  * brewster glares at almostroot
[04:12] <almostroot> reisio: He jumped straight into C, then Fortran. All in a semester.
[04:12] <reisio> ah, can't argue with that
[04:12] <kla> !ot
[04:13] <reisio> C is where they're all derived, no better place to start; though you _can_ start from anywhere and come back
[04:13] <reisio> almostroot: what school is this, if you don't mind saying?
[04:13] <brewster> CaptAnon: maybe a couple of hours a day no more than 2. by the end of the month you should know all the basics including networking and maybe threading
[04:13] <almostroot> reisio: He no longer teaches here, but a two-year technical school with a specialized programming degree.
[04:13] <CaptAnon> How did I start a debate about programming languages all I wanted was to compile some source???
[04:14] <Dr_Azil> :P
[04:14] <CaptAnon> cool
[04:14] <tensorpudding> fortran is a useless language to teach people as their first experience
[04:14] <tensorpudding> especially if it's the old, outdated fortran
[04:14] <Skummel> Is fortran still used?
[04:14] <tensorpudding> yes
[04:14] <brewster> tensorpudding: thank you
[04:14] <tensorpudding> it's significantly popular in high-performance computing
[04:14] <brewster> fortan and c are for more experienced programmers
[04:15] <brewster> for they are very old
[04:15] <tensorpudding> but mainly because it's tailored for speed and easy parallelism and has decades-old libraries for everything
[04:15] <kla> fortran never seemed more than programming language snobbery to me
[04:15] <brewster> they say you can never fully know fortran
[04:15] <almostroot> It is a great programming langue for implementing complex algorithms. I use Fortran 2003 right now. Supercomuting is almost all C and Fortran for the serious science.
[04:15] <brewster> because of how big it is
[04:15] <html> CaptAnon,  we your lucky, cuz most of the time people with thoughs kind of skills dont come around much
[04:16] <tensorpudding> it's too specialized
[04:16] <almostroot> tensorpudding: The course is focused in high-performance computing. In that world, C and Fortran reign.
[04:16]  * dr_willis misses 'Can Do' on his amiga
[04:16] <brewster> CaptAnon: if you can program in your area you can make the benjamins later in life
[04:16] <html> CaptAnon,  so learn all you can , next ubuntu release they'll be back....
[04:16] <l0n> For really high performance stuff, assembler is the way to go :)
[04:17] <dr_willis> comal! ;)
[04:17] <almostroot> l0n: Speed vs time is not comparable. Also, by using a higher-level language, you can port it to other machines, where assembler requires a complete rewrite.
[04:17] <CaptAnon> Programming will never be more then a hobby for me, flying is my thing
[04:17] <tensorpudding> there's plenty of books which cover python from a total beginner's perspective
[04:17] <brewster> oh
[04:18] <CaptAnon> but I wanted to change the physics in the game to be more realistic, and make it more fun for multiplayer
[04:18] <brewster> well if it's just a hobby use languages like python or java
[04:18] <html> almostroot,  that is a good point, and for a nob like me rewrites are bad
[04:18] <brewster> i hear ruby is fun too ;]
[04:19] <tensorpudding> changing the game physics can be terribly involved
[04:19] <oobiloz> help, ubuntu won't show pics from my fuji finepix when i plug it in
[04:19] <oobiloz> it shows when i do lsusb though
[04:19] <reisio> oobiloz: libgphoto2?
[04:19] <almostroot> html: Even worse in the HPC world, where most machines have a 5 year maximum life span. There are physics simulation programs that have been around for decades, and could never be ported.
[04:20] <kantlivelong> anyone here able to use ubuntu 12.04 as an ubuntu guest w/ vboxsf module?
[04:20] <oobiloz> it's there...
[04:20] <brewster> 12.04 is out 0.0
[04:20] <html> almostroot, hpc world? means?
[04:21] <almostroot> html: High-performance computers. Supercomputers.
[04:21] <Tech-1> run linux
[04:21] <brewster> CaptAnon: if you learn the programming basics, changing the game physics would be as easy as changing a couple of numbers
[04:21] <CaptAnon> I played I little bit with ruby, the language seems fun to write
[04:21] <CaptAnon> chomp gets puts
[04:22] <brewster> chomp?
[04:22] <CaptAnon> chomp.gets I think
[04:22] <CaptAnon> can't remember its like input but a quote, or a string or somthing
[04:22] <brewster> oh is that perl?
[04:22] <CaptAnon> ruby
[04:22] <jjjrmy> fortune | cowsay
[04:22] <brewster> oh
[04:23] <brewster> um
[04:23] <almostroot> So I installed using pxebooting with kickstart to direct the install to grab packages via a web server and pre seeding to answer the questions. Could that be part of the reason why my system refuses to see new packages?
[04:23] <html> how about program a simple  kids card matching game?
[04:23] <sausagesquatch> hello can anyone help i used wubi to download and install ubuntu and it wont boot it does not exist in the os choices menu what should i do
[04:23] <brewster> what are we talking about XD
[04:24] <brewster> install it again
[04:24] <almostroot> Reinstall the system?
[04:24] <sausagesquatch> i did 3 times still the same result
[04:24] <brewster> sausagesquatch: try it from the boot disk
[04:25] <sausagesquatch> i have no cd
[04:25] <This_nickname_is> sausagesquatch use LIVECD
[04:25] <brewster> sausagesquatch: flash drive?
[04:25] <captanon> I had xchat running in a terminal and I closed it
[04:25] <sausagesquatch> no flashdrive
[04:25] <captanon> did not know it would kill xchat
[04:25] <sausagesquatch> whats live cd
[04:25] <brewster> why do the best nicks have to do with food?
[04:25] <This_nickname_is> sausagesquatch: you can write the iso img to a usb
[04:26] <captanon> Live cd is a bootable cd I think
[04:26] <html> sausagesquatch,  first comfirm its there http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ , this will do everything you need and more, so boot in to live check , or delete the bad install
[04:26] <sausagesquatch> no usb
[04:26] <brewster> is cornonthecob here?
[04:26] <This_nickname_is> sausagesquatch: then reboot and reinstall from that
[04:26] <CornOnTheCob> ye
[04:26] <CornOnTheCob> yes
[04:26] <kantlivelong> ubuntu is gonna be dead soon :)
[04:26] <Dr_Azil> Ubuntu takes forever to download...
[04:27] <captanon> you trying to make a bootable usb?
[04:27] <almostroot> Dr_Azil: Try a torrent.
[04:27] <html> kantlivelong,  what are you taking about?
[04:27] <Dr_Azil> Would a torrent be as reliable?
[04:27] <CornOnTheCob> kantlivelong: i'm offended
[04:27] <captanon> yeah torrents are good
[04:27] <kantlivelong> html: its being butchered to the most dumbed down OS out there
[04:27] <html> Dr_Azil,  there are some REALLY fast torrats
[04:27] <CornOnTheCob> troooool
[04:27] <kantlivelong> it even has +1 on MS right now.. (until windows 8)
[04:27] <almostroot> Dr_Azil: It checkpoints as it downloads, and you can always check the md5 sum afterwards.
[04:28] <CornOnTheCob> troll
[04:28] <This_nickname_is> captanon: ya,sometimes it,s much easy than wubi
[04:28] <captanon> Torrents are the nuts!!
[04:28] <kantlivelong> CornOnTheCob: srry but ive used alot of distros.. n i was happy w/ ubuntu for awhile.. its crap now
[04:28] <Dr_Azil> Alrighty. Thanks all
[04:28] <html> kantlivelong,  where are you reading your news?
[04:28] <Dr_Azil> Had Ubuntu downloaded and installed at one point. Can't remember why I got rid of it
[04:29] <kantlivelong> html: nowhere.. just my prediction
[04:29] <captanon> I made a bootable usb before, worked fine.
[04:29] <jjjrmy> How do I make Ubuntu look like I'm a hacker?
[04:29] <captanon> hahhaha
[04:29] <kantlivelong> html: you seriously think unity is good for multitasking/development?
[04:29] <captanon> go into terminal
[04:29] <Monsanto> rrrrrrrr
[04:29] <Monsanto> ofllllllll
[04:29] <Brewster> kantlivelong: why in the world would you come to #ubuntu and spread such negativity
[04:29] <oobiloz> i've hte library right enough, but it just won't let me see the photos
[04:29] <kantlivelong> jjjrmy: sudo rm -rf /
[04:29] <jjjrmy> Yeah, but I want everything green and black
[04:29] <jjjrmy> kantlivelong: sorry, no. I'm not THAT stupid
[04:30] <kantlivelong> jjjrmy: i tried lol
[04:30] <Brewster> lol
[04:30] <captanon> jjjrmy,  now I want that too
[04:30] <html> Dr_Azil,  just MAKE sure its ubuntu 10.04  or 10.10,  anything else you run into extra problems?
[04:30] <html> Dr_Azil,  just MAKE sure its ubuntu 10.04  or 10.10,  anything else you run into extra problems
[04:30] <kantlivelong> jjjrmy: install fluxbox + rxvt + conky
[04:30] <jjjrmy> also, how do I get rid of this Unity shit?
[04:30] <kantlivelong> jjjrmy: ^
[04:31] <Brewster> jjjrmy: kde plasma ftw
[04:31] <captanon> jjjrmy,  just get used to it.
[04:31] <captanon> its too hard to fight
[04:31] <Brewster> fight the power
[04:31] <kantlivelong> lol get used to unity?
[04:31] <almostroot> kantlivelong: rm has a preserve root flag enabled by default. Read the man pages for how to override it.
[04:31] <pangolin> !language | jjjrmy
[04:31] <Lizard_> Woops
[04:31] <captanon> the biggest problem with unity is i cant let anybody use my computer
[04:31] <kantlivelong> almostroot: the heck u talkin about?
[04:31] <Brewster> jjjrmy: kde plasma is a good alternative to unity
[04:31] <kla> plasma ftw
[04:32] <almostroot> kantlivelong: rm will refuse to remove the root of the filesystem by default.
[04:32] <almostroot> kantlivelong: Look at the man pages for rm
[04:32] <Brewster> almostroot: the command was funny though XD
[04:32] <kantlivelong> almostroot: is this new?
[04:32] <almostroot> kantlivelong: Not really.
[04:32] <Brewster> imagine if you got someone to do that XD
[04:32] <kantlivelong> hmm
[04:32] <almostroot> Brewster: As I said, it won't work without an additional option.
[04:32] <Monsanto> if you sudo rm -rf / you're eff'd
[04:33] <almostroot> Monsanto: Untrue. Read the man pages.
[04:33] <pangolin> !danger
[04:33] <Monsanto> Do it.
[04:33] <Brewster> LMAOOO
[04:33] <kantlivelong> lol
[04:33] <kantlivelong> bbl
[04:33] <Brewster> ubottu XD
[04:33] <Monsanto> Run it
[04:33] <sausagesquatch> i have no cds or usbs i need a intelligent answer please everyones answer involves buying somthing
[04:33] <almostroot> pangolin: It is not a dangerous command.
[04:33] <almostroot> pangolin: Since it will not work.
[04:33] <captanon> Hey how do I change the colour on the terminal, I do like the idea of that hacker mode
[04:34] <jjjrmy> captanon: I found a theme to do it :p
[04:34] <jjjrmy> Also, how do I get rid of the Unity Sidebar?
[04:35] <kla> captanon: kernel options maybe?
[04:35] <milamber> jjjrmy: just change the profile in the terminal?
[04:35] <almostroot> jjjrmy: Do you mean the terminal, as in text-only, or the terminal as in the application that you can open that emulates the terminal?
[04:35] <captanon> found it
[04:36] <almostroot> ^That was misdirected. Sorry.
[04:36] <html> kantlivelong,  agreed, and as linux MUST have a os as a big seller , then use our name to bluid more,better faster ,.... but all the linux fans know it takes money, and some how to feed there family for those that make it. also  ubuntu is betteeer then kde, in ,less broken packages and the new .deb manager is making it a favorite among new users which we all know we need...
[04:36] <kla> sausagesquatch: would you please describe your problem in more detail. Apologies if you've already done so.
[04:36] <tucemiux_mob> how do you disable the virus that constantly tries to configure networking upon startup?
[04:37] <captanon> Also if there is another computer running on my home network can I open stuff up on it from the terminal on another computer
[04:37] <milamber> captanon: yes.
[04:37] <tucemiux_mob> captanon,  openssh
[04:37] <captanon> kla,  by kernel is that another word for terminal
[04:37] <sausagesquatch> yup
[04:37] <captanon> thanks tucemiux_mob
[04:38] <kla> captanon: nope, I just thought you were talking about  the virtual consoles
[04:38] <kla> tucemiux_mob: you sound pretty sure it is indeed a virus
[04:38] <captanon> is that ssh as good as it sounds?
[04:39] <tucemiux_mob> kla, it sure acts like a virus
[04:39] <html> tucemiux_mob,  try this, but this to scan it whith out the pc on ,"live mode"
[04:39] <dr_willis> !ssh
[04:39] <sausagesquatch> i used wubi to download and install ubuntu and it will not boot it does not appear in the os choices menu and i have no cd's or flash drives
[04:39] <tucemiux_mob> html, my real question is, how do I boot up ubuntu without it forcibly wanting to have an IP?
[04:39] <sausagesquatch> and no money please help
[04:40] <reisio> sausagesquatch: you could try running the installer again
[04:40] <captanon> how did you use wubi without a cd or flash?
[04:40] <sausagesquatch> did it 3 times
[04:40] <reisio> captanon: virtual mount
[04:40] <sausagesquatch> still no boot
[04:40] <captanon> ok
[04:40] <dr_willis> sausagesquatch: id just use virtualbox. i dont like wubi
[04:40] <html> tucemiux_mob,  dont connect to the net?
[04:40] <captanon> did you put it onto a partition?
[04:40] <reisio> sausagesquatch: there's not much we can do if you don't have any media and the installer isn't working from a virtual mount
[04:40] <sausagesquatch> is the boot and grub folders supposed to be empty
[04:40] <OerHeks> sausagesquatch, maybe your antivirus protection is too tight
[04:41] <reisio> sausagesquatch: ideally you'd install from a live CD/DVD/USB after resizing your Windows partition
[04:41] <kla> tucemiux_mob: update-rc.d networking disable ?
[04:41] <sausagesquatch> well i cannot do that reisio
[04:41] <kla> tucemiux_mob: then you can ifup/ifdown interfaces at will
[04:42] <html> sausagesquatch, did you burn the os  to a cd? and what are you spec of your computer?
[04:42] <captanon> Hold on with putty I can control a windows pc from my linux computer???
[04:42] <kla> captanon: if the windows PC is running an SSH server
[04:42] <tucemiux_mob> html, im not connected to the net but ubuntu keeps forcibly waiting to get an IP upon startup
[04:42] <milamber> captanon: other way around
[04:42] <sausagesquatch> no cd's i used wubi
[04:42] <kla> captanon: "control" is an overstatement though
[04:42] <kla> or a dramatization
[04:43] <html> tucemiux_mob,  which one ? outbound or in bound?
[04:43] <tucemiux_mob> kla, so ubuntu will forcibly ask for an IP even though you have no internet connection?  That's a BUG or a virus
[04:43] <milamber> captanon: windows does not come with ssh installed. putty is an ssh client for windows
[04:43] <sausagesquatch> 1.78 ghz processor 1.5 gb ram 80 gb hdd
[04:43] <Brewster> tucemiux_mob: no such thing as linux virus
[04:43] <tucemiux_mob> html, sideways o.O
[04:43] <kla> tucemiux_mob: neither I'd say.
[04:44] <html> tucemiux_  smartypants
[04:44] <tucemiux_mob> Brewster, ok time to file a bug reporr then
[04:44] <Brewster> indeed
[04:44] <tucemiux_mob> **report**
[04:44] <Brewster> or sudo modprobe -r eth0
[04:44] <tucemiux_mob> Brewster, yes but I shouldn't have to do that, it should just boot up and work!
[04:44] <sausagesquatch> hello mr potato head
[04:44] <html> sausagesquatch,  and what os are you loading ?
[04:45] <sausagesquatch> ubuntu
[04:45] <kla> Brewster: how come??
[04:45] <kla> eth0
[04:45] <captanon> Do you have a partition sausagesquatch ?
[04:45] <html> sausagesquatch,  what version?
[04:45] <Brewster> kla: how come wat?
[04:45] <kla> Brewster: modprobe -r eth0
[04:45] <sausagesquatch> no partition
[04:45] <dr_willis> cant say ive noticed any ussues with my unnetworked ubuntu machines
[04:46] <Brewster> removes internet module
[04:46] <sausagesquatch> the one off the ubuntu site
[04:46] <Brewster> you could put a startup command as gksu modprobe -r eth0
[04:46] <captanon> I can't remember but I think when I did it from the wubi I put it into a partition
[04:46] <Brewster> that way it'll happen automatically
[04:46] <kla> Brewster: I never thought such usage case was possible. Can anyone else please confirm this??
[04:47] <Brewster> i wouldn't recommend it
[04:47] <sausagesquatch> ubuntu 11.10
[04:47] <Brewster> why would you want to remove your internet
[04:47] <Tech-1> why not rid of the virus
[04:47] <Brewster> what if you can't put it back?
[04:47] <Brewster> no such thing as ubuntu virus
[04:48] <Tech-1> didnt he say he had a virus?, thought he had windoze
[04:48] <kla> paranoia (sp?) is quite the motivator
[04:48] <captanon> ok if I us ssh on an other ubuntu computer, can I log in as root and use my sudo powers
[04:48] <captanon> Is that the point of ssh?
[04:48] <captanon> I will google ssh
[04:49] <kla> captanon: indeed. you will have the same capabilities and powers as you would otherwise have
[04:49] <sausagesquatch> come on i need some ideas
[04:49] <html> sausagesquatch,  i take it your new at this, so i will save you the pain (click the 32bit verison) http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[04:50] <milamber> captanon: ssh is just a way to access your machine. you can log in with your regular credentials, you don't have to use sudo to remote in
[04:50] <dr_willis> !ssh | captanon
[04:50] <sausagesquatch> very new to ubuntu
[04:51] <dr_willis> sausagesquatch: id just use virtualbox. i dont like wubi
[04:52] <dr_willis> sausagesquatch:  that would let you have both os going at the same time
[04:52] <captanon> Wow that is cool that is what I've allways wanted
[04:53] <kla> captanon: Be careful though.. with great power comes great... ah just a lot of power :)
[04:53] <captanon> does anyone have a spare computer I can ssh into?
[04:53] <sausagesquatch> i cant buy a cd
[04:54] <milamber> captanon: once you install the server (usually: sudo apt-get install openssh-server) you can ssh into your own box
[04:54] <dr_willis> captanon:   ssh localhost         :-)
[04:54] <captanon> hahha
[04:54] <captanon> ok I will try that
[04:55] <html> sausagesquatch,  this one will be of the few that are better for you computer, also puppylinux, and lubuntu ( for slower and older pcs) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[04:55] <hilarie_> Okay, so my seedboxes default ubuntu image, has only 1 user, and that user is root... how do I get back to what I normally do with ubuntu? like have my own username, and a password, and use sudo, isn't being logged in as root, a bad idea?
[04:58] <captanon> OMG I just hacked into my own computer
[04:58] <html> sausagesquatch,  the dr_willis  is one of the best mind in here, and is a respected member . we are here to help
[04:59] <hilarie_> Anyone, point me in the right direction? there are alot of programs that say they wont run as root :(
[04:59] <captanon> sausagesquatch,  Have you tried putting the wubi into a different partition from the windows one?
[05:00] <Monsanto> captanon: How so
 OMG I just hacked into my own computer
[05:00] <captanon> hahha ssh
[05:00] <dr_willis> i dident thik wubi worked on a different partition.
[05:00] <captanon> Maybe its been a long time since I used it.
[05:01] <milamber> !details | hilarie_
[05:01] <dr_willis> i cant stand wubi. ;) id vote for its removal from the install cd..
[05:01] <captanon> I can't remember quite how I did it when I did it
[05:01] <Tech-1> brb
[05:01] <almostroot> So when I installed via net boot, the system used the server it grabbed the copied ubuntu CD image off of as the default repo. Is that why the machine refuses to see updates?
[05:01]  * milamber would second that removal
[05:01] <oobiloz> anyone have any ideas so i can see photos from my camera?
[05:01] <oobiloz> it says camera detected when i plug it in but cannot open divvrectory
[05:01] <oobiloz> *directory
[05:02] <kla> almostroot: yep, configure update sources
[05:02] <oobiloz> it's all greyed out in gthumb and f-spot when i try to import
[05:02] <hilarie_> I am running a custom ubuntu 11.10 server edition image, provided by my seedbox host, the only way for me to log in is ssh root@myip and then I am logged in as root, isn't there a way to add a username, give it sudo priviliges, and disable root?
[05:02] <almostroot> In other words, anyone experienced with pre seeding and pxebooting to install?
[05:02] <dr_willis> oobiloz:  perhaps its not in usb storge mode. or you need to mount it by hand
[05:02] <html> dr_willis, can i pm you?
[05:02] <oobiloz> lol
[05:02] <milamber> !adduser | almostroot
[05:03] <oobiloz> the mount it by hand makes me nervous
[05:03] <dr_willis> html:  you can. but im at work so may have to leave at any time to do real work.. ;)
[05:03] <oobiloz> it says here on grey screen it's on usb mode?
[05:03] <oobiloz> well not usb mode but
[05:03] <html> ok
[05:03] <almostroot> milamber: ... I don't think you read my issue.
[05:03] <oobiloz> there is a usb icon and it says usb.....
[05:03] <captanon> how do I keep a program running that I opened in terminal If I want to close the terminal?
[05:03] <dr_willis> oobiloz:  learning how mount works is rather fundamental ;)
[05:03] <oobiloz> dr willis... sorry i did try googling it earlier
[05:03] <oobiloz> and i've done it before
[05:03] <oobiloz> a couple of times
[05:04] <almostroot> kla: I copied over a known good sources.list to no avail. It's receiving the new lists, but not comparing the local installed to the remote updated.
[05:04] <oobiloz> i have memory issues
[05:04] <milamber> almostroot: my fault, wrong person
[05:04] <FloodBot1> oobiloz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:04] <dr_willis> captanon:   command &    then 'exit' to close the terminal
[05:04] <dr_willis> !mount | oobiloz
[05:05] <oobiloz> thnaks
[05:05] <CaptAnon> Didn't work.
[05:05] <milamber> !adduser | hilarie_
[05:06] <sausagesquatch> how shall i partition the hdd for free
[05:06] <dr_willis>  sausagesquatch  gparted from a live cd/usb is how i normally do it
[05:06] <CaptAnon> sausagesquatch,  I think you should just buy a flash drive, It will make things so much easyer
[05:07] <CaptAnon> wait
[05:07] <CaptAnon> forget that
[05:07] <dr_willis> windows 7 has some decent resizeing features
[05:07] <sausagesquatch> i have o dollars for weeks i want this up now if there is a way i want to find out
[05:08] <dr_willis> sausagesquatch:  perhaps go back to the beginning and clarify the whole story/problem
[05:08] <sausagesquatch> dr willis ok
[05:08] <threonine> can someone help me add my cd/dvd drive to wine?
[05:09] <sausagesquatch> i used wubi to download and installed ubuntu and it wont boot it does not show up in os choices menu
[05:09] <sausagesquatch> i have no cd no usb no money
[05:09] <threonine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/756755/
[05:09] <milamber> sausagesquatch: did you run chkdsk /r on your win install?
[05:10] <sausagesquatch> md5?
[05:10] <CaptAnon> I'm using ssh on my localhost but when I try to open xeyes it says error; can't open display
[05:10] <dr_willis> sausagesquatch:  and your system specs and windows version are?
[05:10] <dr_willis> CaptAnon:  read up on x forwarding via ssh.
[05:11] <milamber> CaptAnon: to enable x forwarding you have to do: ssh -C -X <server>
[05:11] <sausagesquatch> 1.78 ghz processor 1.5 gb ram 80 g b hdd
[05:11] <dr_willis> CaptAnon:  ssh -X remotebox       ;)
[05:11] <sausagesquatch> windows xp professional sp3
[05:11] <CaptAnon> wilco dr_willis
[05:12] <sausagesquatch> dr wilis should the folders grub and boot be empty
[05:12] <dr_willis> sausagesquatch:  personally, id forget wubi and use virtualbox.  it wont be as fast. but it will work. will work great with lubuntu.
[05:12] <dr_willis> sausagesquatch:  i dont use wubi any more. its just too problematic
[05:13] <sausagesquatch> how do i get virtualbox for free
[05:13] <almostroot> So frisk is different than what I'm used to. How can I specify the partition type when creating it?
[05:13] <almostroot> fdisk*
[05:14] <oobiloz> i'm reading the page... i honeslty don't know what is ii'm supposed to mount here. it shows on lsusb but not in df -h.. how else will i know where tis supposed to be... (i'm not even sure if i'm saying this right, ehehe)
[05:14] <dr_willis> sausagesquatch:  at the vbox homepage... its free
[05:14] <dr_willis> oobiloz:  check sudo fdisk -l
[05:14] <sausagesquatch> ok will you be on here for a while
[05:14] <dr_willis> !vbox
[05:15] <oobiloz> O.O command not found?
[05:15] <oobiloz> lemme do this again
[05:15] <oobiloz> phew
[05:15] <html> "will you be on here for a while" lol   well some of us live on here
[05:15] <oobiloz> uh..
[05:16] <html> lol
[05:16] <html> case and point
[05:16] <oobiloz> what is the page for me to post output again?
[05:16] <dr_willis> !pastebin
[05:16] <Tech-1> pastebin
[05:17] <oobiloz> k thanks
[05:17] <sausagesquatch> so please give a brief description of how to do this
[05:17] <html> do you know how to load a dvd ?
[05:18] <dr_willis> sausagesquatch:  download, install virtualbox. start it.. tell it to boot iso.. follow the wizaed.. it has a manual at its homepage. vbox manual that is..
[05:18] <tomato_c> sausagesquatch:well, i think you should re-download a iso img file
[05:18] <oobiloz> hellow?
[05:18] <oobiloz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/756760/
[05:19] <dr_willis> the wubi installer had the iso file downloaded somewhere. he could use than. but i normally use lubuntu in vbox
[05:19] <html> sausagesquatch,  what os are you running ? windows 7 ? vista? what?
[05:19] <sausagesquatch> yup i used wubi so that means i have the wrong file format?
[05:19] <sausagesquatch> html win xp professional
[05:19] <dr_willis> wubi downloaded the iso... somewhere
[05:20] <CaptAnon> ok on the computer im sshing into do they have to have a user with the same user name that I have?
[05:20] <CaptAnon> and password?
[05:20] <milamber> CaptAnon: no, but you would have to specify the correct user and pass when you run the ssh command
[05:21] <milamber> CaptAnon: for the manual: man ssh
[05:21] <CaptAnon> man ssh
[05:21] <CaptAnon> oh
[05:21] <CaptAnon> in the terminal
[05:21] <CaptAnon> thanks milamber
[05:21] <dr_willis> oobiloz:  only 1 hd is seen on that system.
[05:21] <CaptAnon> just wondering, how come help ssh does not work?
[05:21] <dr_willis> CaptAnon:  clarify what you mean.
[05:22] <dr_willis> dont work.. most likely user error...
[05:22] <dr_willis> ;)
[05:22] <CaptAnon> how come "help ssh " does not give me help like it usualy does?
[05:22] <dr_willis> never noticed a help command...
[05:22] <html> sausagesquatch,  i can help you out,  or is someone else doing that?
[05:22] <oobiloz> well i took a fat leap and did the mount /dev/sdb1 anyway and now i'ts going on about fstab or mtab
[05:23] <sausagesquatch> well html just you and dr wilis
[05:23] <dr_willis> oobiloz:  the system sees no sdb.   untill fdisk -l shows the other drives.. you cant mount it.
[05:23] <dubey> hello
[05:23] <dubey> my ubuntu10.04 doesn't recognize inbuilt monitor
[05:24] <dubey> and even i didn't find xorg.conf file
[05:24] <iceroot> CaptAnon: "info ssh" or "man ssh"
[05:24] <CaptAnon> like with "help cd" or "help help"
[05:24] <html> sausagesquatch,  ok from now on i will be talking to you , without highlighting your name,
[05:25] <sausagesquatch> how do you highlight
[05:25] <oobiloz> i'm in fstab and my eyes are glazing over
[05:25] <iceroot> sausagesquatch: just write the nick
[05:25] <oobiloz> lol
[05:25] <CaptAnon> Ice does info work with most things?
[05:25] <iceroot> CaptAnon: yes
[05:25] <dr_willis> CaptAnon:  cant say ive ever used 'help command' in my 13+ years of linux ussage
[05:26] <CaptAnon> Thanks iceroot
[05:26] <dubey> anyone pls.
[05:26] <oobiloz> thanks ... reading mroe into it
[05:26] <iceroot> CaptAnon: normally you want the manpage with "man command"
[05:26] <dr_willis> man is the original 'documentation' system from years and years ago... then there was a push to the 'info' type system.. ;)
[05:27] <html> sausagesquatch,  when you say my name , that its what i mean,
[05:27] <CaptAnon> but info and man are the same thing and they are here to stay?
[05:27] <iceroot> CaptAnon: they are not the same
[05:27] <CaptAnon> oh?
[05:27] <sausagesquatch> s o when i type html you see it highlighted
[05:27] <dr_willis> CaptAnon:  they are not going away any time soon
[05:28] <html> yes
[05:28] <CaptAnon> cool
[05:28] <html> sausagesquatch, yes
[05:28] <dr_willis> CaptAnon:  man has been aroud for 20+ yes
[05:28] <dr_willis> years
[05:28] <html> sausagesquatch, yes and only those that i say those ppls names
[05:28] <iceroot> hm strange, what viewer is "info" using. its not "less"
[05:28] <fabio_> xdcc send 36
[05:29] <sausagesquatch> ive got 4 min on the virtualbox download
[05:29] <dr_willis> iceroot:  i thought info had its own
[05:29] <iceroot> dr_willis: yes seems so
[05:29] <dr_willis> iceroot:  try info info    ;)
[05:29] <iceroot> info --vi-keys :)
[05:30] <dr_willis> there some gnome-help-viewer app that does man and info in a nicer gui i recall
[05:30] <iceroot> dr_willis: man info :)
[05:30] <html> sausagesquatch,  which version?
[05:30] <sausagesquatch> 4.1.6
[05:30] <dr_willis> too many times i see info docs that are just the output of 'command --help'
[05:30] <html> 32 bit or 64?
[05:30] <sausagesquatch> for x86
[05:31] <sausagesquatch> proccessors
[05:31] <sausagesquatch> anyone know any good hacking channels
[05:32] <dr_willis> 'hacking' is a rather vague term these days
[05:32] <LargePrime> yes we know the good hacking channels
[05:32] <sausagesquatch> well to be specific aircrack how do i get a invite
[05:33] <LargePrime> we are not telling you
[05:33] <fabio_> ist
[05:33] <fabio_> xdcc list
[05:33] <tensorpudding> they're might be some netsec channels on freenode, but read the freenode guidelines, which covers some activities which are offtopic on this network
[05:33] <dr_willis> sausagesquatch:  it may be regiestered nicks only. register your nick
[05:34] <CaptAnon> Most words seem pretty vague these days
[05:34] <sausagesquatch> what do you mean by nick
[05:34] <html> sausagesquatch,  that is a toucher subject then then politics  and church combine  in here
[05:34] <LargePrime> google it sasuage
[05:35] <LargePrime> also #help
[05:35] <tensorpudding> there is no aircrack channel here, try somewhere else
[05:35] <LargePrime> lol
[05:36] <mohsinhijazee> Hi all
[05:37] <sausagesquatch> html what is touchy ? hacking?
[05:37] <mohsinhijazee> I have Toshiba L640 with Broadcom wireless network adaptor
[05:37] <dr_willis> !register
[05:37] <mohsinhijazee> Installed the closed source dirvers but still nothing shows up
[05:37] <html> sausagesquatch, yes  very touchy
[05:38] <mohsinhijazee> the ifconfig is here http://pastebin.com/7nN3RmZi
[05:38] <mohsinhijazee> Can anyone guide me about it?
[05:38] <mohsinhijazee> It was previously working :(
[05:39] <html> sausagesquatch,  what linux os are you running?
[05:40] <sausagesquatch> im not
[05:40] <html> sausagesquatch,  what linux os are you running? or plan to use?
[05:40] <sausagesquatch> its xp
[05:40] <LargePrime> lol
[05:40] <sausagesquatch> i want ubuntu
[05:40] <html> what linux os are you going to use and version?
[05:40] <LargePrime> i want sausages now
[05:40] <html> lolollololololololoolololololololololololol!!!!!!!!!
[05:41] <sausagesquatch> i just had a sausagesquatchinisim
[05:41] <LargePrime> you are being helpful and crap, so i should shut up
[05:43] <ruslan_osmanov> hi. is there a way to add my custom server address to the gui window providing standard mirrors?
[05:46] <ruslan_osmanov> in other words, is the list of servers hadrcoded there or it reads some config file?
[05:49] <windparadise> hello good morning, I have installed ubuntu on vmware, but it boot in a shell mode. how do I launch the graphical mode?
[05:50] <dubey> hello
[05:50] <nevyn> windparadise: honestly re-install with the non-server version will be quickest.
[05:50] <ruslan_osmanov> windparadise, you should have provided not enough graphics/ram memory for the guest. It should output some warning on startup
[05:51] <nevyn> hrm that's a possiblity
[05:51] <sausagesquatch> dr wilis the virtual box software has not passed windows logo testing should i proceed
[05:51] <windparadise_> please I don't get tht part, I was disconnected.
[05:51] <windparadise_> do you mean I should reinstall everything? I didn't install ubuntu in server mode.
[05:51] <nevyn> windparadise: how much memory did you give the guest?
[05:51] <windparadise_> I first 2GB
[05:52] <windparadise_> but later changed it to 1500
[05:52] <ruslan_osmanov> :O do you mean space on hard drive?
[05:52] <windparadise_> no, ram, HDD size is 30 GB
[05:53] <ruslan_osmanov> what about video memory ?\
[05:53] <Ashu> hi, I am trying to setup a socks proxy in ubunutu. I set up ssh for port forwarding, but when I try to connect using my rsa key, it complains the key is not is rsa1 format. Which is right, b/c i have an rsa key.  shouldnt be able to recognize that the key is not rsa1?
[05:54] <windparadise_> it's set on auto-detect mode
[05:54] <windparadise> using the host settings
[05:54] <windparadise> what do i do ?
[05:55] <dubey> need help to set resolution
[05:55] <Braden`> How do I tell what runlevel I am in?
[05:55] <dubey> Braden: runleve
[05:56] <dubey> Braden: runlevel
[05:56] <Braden`> it says /var/run/utmp does not exist
[05:56] <Braden`> so I created it
[05:56] <Braden`> now it just says "unknown"
[05:56] <windparadise> any answer please
[05:56] <windparadise> ?
[05:57] <Braden`> windparadise:  Repase your question
[05:57] <dubey> my dell 5050 uses vga16fb
[05:57] <windparadise> I was having problem starting ubuntu in GUI  mode, I have installed it on vmware on allocated ram of 1500m, 30G of HDD size
[05:57] <windparadise> after installation, ubuntu runs on shell mode
[05:57] <dubey> how can i change  resolution
[05:57] <Braden`> What error does it give you?
[05:58] <windparadise> i see no error, it starts normally and stay on shell mode
[05:59] <Braden`> dubey:  Look up xrandr
[05:59] <Braden`> windparadise:  Type:  startx
[05:59] <dubey> Braden: will you help me ?
[06:00] <Doctorly> Am I allowed to ask for help in here?
[06:00] <Doctorly> Just making sure I have the right channel before I upser anyone
[06:01] <windparadise> thanks
[06:01] <Braden`> Doctorly:  Do not ask to ask, just ask.
[06:02] <Doctorly> Wanted to make sure I had the right channel. How do I load a custome Unity theme in 11.10? All the tuts I have found are pointing me at gnome.
[06:03] <jiltdil> Is there any better image editor than gimp in ubuntu?
[06:03] <Braden`> Isn't Unity gnome?
[06:03] <Doctorly> Yeah, but a gnome theme isnt the same
[06:04] <almostroot> Doctorly: I found dozens of themes and how to install it with a quick google search.
[06:05] <nevyn> josephliu: better how?
[06:05] <nevyn> jiltdil: ^^
[06:05] <Doctorly> Yes, but I need to install a custom theme for unity specifically. Most will get from the repos and autoload into the settings, but not a custom theme
[06:06] <almostroot> Doctorly: http://www.noobslab.com/2011/11/delta-black-theme-for-gnome-shell-32.html Found using google.
[06:06] <jiltdil> nevyn, ??
[06:06] <Doctorly> No
[06:06] <almostroot> A link on the first result.
[06:06] <Doctorly> that isnt it
[06:06] <nevyn> jiltdil: define better.
[06:06] <Doctorly> [#ubuntu]
[06:06] <Doctorly> That is gnome shell
[06:07] <josephliu> nevyn, Hello?
[06:07] <nevyn> jiltdil: technically more capable, easier to use, easier to learn ...
[06:07] <nevyn> josephliu: sorry bad completion
[06:07] <dubey> anyone ?
[06:07] <josephliu> nevyn, it's okay. :-)
[06:08] <jiltdil> Nevyn, technically more correct and more features
[06:09] <Doctorly> I need to load a custom Unity theme, and no, unity is benchmarked much faster recently if used properly actually. It was fine in 11.04 but canon actually remvoed the features for custom loading for less confusion. Thanks for answering with exactly what I asked you not to answer with though, I will find the answer elsewhere.
[06:09] <almostroot> Doctorly: Try google. Found this: http://www.noobslab.com/2011/11/pink-theme-for-ubuntu-1110-unity-for.html And this: http://www.noobslab.com/2011/11/transparent-swar-red-unity-theme-for.html And #10 on this page: http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/09/08/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-11-10/
[06:09] <almostroot> Le sigh.
[06:09] <nevyn> jiltdil: there's cinepaint which supports greater bitdepth per channel
[06:10] <nevyn> what sorts of features are you after?
[06:10] <jiltdil> nevyn,  thanks a lot
[06:10] <jiq98> hey can someone exlpain what this EFI Boot is as opposed to having a /boot partition
[06:11] <nevyn> jiq98: read mjg's blog like everyone else?
[06:11] <geohacker> I just did a system update in Natty and seems like metacity has crashed. decorators don't show up.
[06:11] <geohacker> any clue?
[06:13] <almostroot> Solving my problem by creating a local repo mirror and installing the clients form that as opposed to the ISO.
[06:13] <dubey> xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed
[06:13] <nevyn> jiq98: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/4125.html
[06:15] <Vivin> test
[06:15] <nevyn> fail
[06:15] <Vivin> how to chat privately?
[06:16] <nevyn> /query Vivin
[06:16] <Tech-1>  /j #vivin
[06:16] <Sinister> hey was wondering, is it possible to unzip multizip files? I've tried with 7z and unzip but it doesnt seem to work.
[06:17] <Sinister> only unzip 1 part and asks to overwrite the information already extracted
[06:17] <html> i need help with logon manager , i dont know how to reset the ubuntu 10.10
[06:17] <nevyn> Tech-1: doesn't it need +i  ;)
[06:18] <Tech-1> Info:      Processes 168 Uptime 44 min Memory 528.8/4023.2MB Client X-Chat 2.8.8 inxi 1.7.27
[06:21] <Sinister> hey was wondering, is it possible to unzip multizip files? I've tried with 7z and unzip but it doesnt seem to work.
[06:21] <Sinister> only unzip 1 part and asks to overwrite the information already extracted
[06:25] <lwizardl> I was wondering what was the best way to take a LibreOffice calc sheet and export the fields to a pdf file while having it setup a certain layout ? basically what I am looking to do is take stuff like this www.wizardsarcade.com/example.ods and export the data like this www.wizardsarcade.com/example.pdf I can do it by hand but when I add the checkboxes to a couple of the lists libreoffice hangs due to having so many checkboxes (one l
[06:25] <lwizardl> ist has over 700 titles, and 4 checkboxes per title = 2800 checkboxes total)
[06:25] <FloodBot1> lwizardl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:25] <xen> hey Sinister
[06:25] <xen> #sinsiter
[06:25] <lwizardl> wasn't a flood it was a single line for my xchat

[06:26] <xen> ?
[06:26] <xen> there?
[06:26] <xen> @<Sinister>
[06:26] <Sinister> yup xen
[06:26] <xen> yea
[06:26] <xen> listen try this cmd
[06:27] <xen> tar -xvf filename.zip filename.txt
[06:27] <xen> let me know if it works for you

u may also try unzip filename.zip filename.txt
[06:28] <html> lwizardl,  do it parts
[06:28] <lwizardl> html, ?
[06:29] <lwizardl> html, are you saying have like 5-10 pdf files for them ? I would prefer not to do that I would prefer to just have a single pdf file to print off
[06:30] <Sinister> xen: will try when I get home! ty for tips anyhow but the unzip one is already tried. Unzip even writes on their site that it dont support multizip yet.
kk try tar -xvf
should work for you
[06:30] <Sinister> ait
[06:30] <xen> :)
[06:31] <html> lwizardl,  do it in such a way that you just put half and half, think of the slower computers? its going to take a good 5 min just to open
u can feed these kind of datas using some kind of IDE like Visual Studio...
[06:34] <remexnux> halo
[06:35] <xen> using drag and drop u can create tables and then feed in the data as per required
[06:35] <xen> hello remexnux

[06:35] <xen> ?
[06:35] <xen> y:d
[06:35] <remexnux> can you help me
yea feel free to ask
[06:36] <lwizardl> html, exactly which is what happens if I just use Writer. So I was looking to have it as a spreadsheet in calc to see if there is a smaller version that is complete. and the PDF files load very quickly just the  ods or odt files that take a long time to open
[06:38] <xen> ?
[06:38] <EvilResistance> remexnux, what do you need help with>
[06:38] <EvilResistance> just ask the channel in general
[06:39] <EvilResistance> xen, its not necessary to have the < and > around nicks in order to hilight someone
[06:39] <EvilResistance> xen, just sayin is all
[06:39] <remexnux> i need link repository linux
[06:39] <EvilResistance> remexnux, there is no central linux repository for all linuxes.  what specifically are you looking for
 actually its like i just copy the name of the person i am conversing with... and then just paste it everytime i need to refer to him... :D
[06:40] <EvilResistance> xen, tabcomplete
[06:40] <EvilResistance> xen, type in "evilr" and then hit the "tab" button
[06:40] <remexnux> ok thanks,..
[06:41] <remexnux> i try
[06:41] <xen> EvilResistance, oh thnxx man...
[06:41] <EvilResistance> remexnux, is there something you specifically need in a repository?
[06:43] <html> lwizardl,  so then go and fine tune it to make it faster
[06:43] <Tech-1> jobs is gone
[06:43] <Tech-1> whew
[06:45] <EvilResistance> remexnux, if you need the Ubuntu repositories they're already loaded onto your system, you simply need to know what you're looking for, and we can try to help you find it
[06:45] <Tech-1> synaptic
[06:45] <remexnux> ok wait brow
[06:45] <Tech-1> sys/admin/synaptic
[06:45] <EvilResistance> remexnux, sorry, it was about 5 minutes since you said anything so ;P
[06:45] <EvilResistance> Tech-1, can we help yopu?
[06:46] <EvilResistance> you*
[06:46] <Tech-1> ya, gimme a loan
[06:46] <EvilResistance> !offtopic | Tech-1
[06:46] <Tech-1> nice
[06:47] <Tech-1> are u an op ?
[06:48] <EvilResistance> Tech-1, no, but i can call them if necessary.  and i definitely do not want to do that if i dont have to.
[06:48] <Tech-1> then stop bosing people
[06:48] <Tech-1> thanks!
[06:48] <pangolin> Tech-1: Please stick to the channel topic.
[06:48] <pangolin> I am an op. inb4uask
[06:48] <Tech-1> i have no problem w/ that
[06:49] <pangolin> thank you.
[06:49] <Tech-1> no problem
[06:50] <html> new channel op?
[06:50] <Tech-1> orly?
[06:50] <EvilResistance> !offtopic | Tech-1 and html
[06:50] <EvilResistance> btw, that's policy
[06:50] <EvilResistance> pangolin will likely support that ;P
[06:50] <html> btw means?
[06:51] <v_v> by the way
[06:51] <html> thanks
[06:51] <Tech-1> we know what the policy is, being the room was at a stand still we just decided to create some chatter, no harm meant by it
[06:53] <html> yes and chattness mean people see it busy so i stick around,, i dont like a ghought channel
[06:53] <oobiloz> ghought?
[06:53] <Tm_T> please don't make noise here, this channel is active enough even without offtopic chatter
[06:54] <html> ghouts,,,, like  boo,, holloween?
[06:55] <elky> html, i think you mean ghosts
[06:55] <elky> either way, discuss ghosts in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[06:55] <EvilResistance> i think you mean ghosts.  but as ubottu said, and pangolin and Tm_T have both kindly supported... #ubuntu-offtopic is for the non-support chat.  either that, or #defocus (reenode chat channel)
[06:55] <html> yeah that
[06:56] <html> elky,  will i see you there ? lol
[06:57] <elky> html, you'll know if you join there
[06:57] <oobiloz> eheh
[06:57] <oobiloz> i joined
[06:57] <jehoshua02> Is there a quick way to install RMagick on Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS?
[06:58] <jehoshua02> (or, what is the quickest way?)
[06:58] <benbloom> anyone have an idea how i would create an empty mp3 file with lame? I know it's off topic, but i'
[06:58] <abhinav_singh> i am confused between dates ..http://pastebin.com/Pi5nLEjh
[06:58] <benbloom> 've had a long day, and just looking for an easy answer. sorry if that's a pain
[06:58] <jonathon> What's the command to have GRUB update itself after removing an OS?
[06:59] <ghufran> hi. i just installed ubuntu on my laptop. it said "installation complete and restart". i did so and it showed GRUB. but after selecting ubuntu, it doesn't show anything at all .. just the cursor at the start of the screen :S
[06:59] <ghufran> can someone please help?
[07:00] <CaptAnon> where is python suppose to get these bmp images from http://cs.simpson.edu/?q=bitmapped_graphics.py
[07:01] <CaptAnon> test
[07:01] <kla> CaptAnon: #python
[07:03] <jonathon> SOmeone know the command to have GRUB update it's boot menu after I remove an OS?
[07:04] <ghufran> jonathon: i don't know but i think you can edit you grub menu by hand also. though its a bit risky :P
[07:04] <jonathon> Yea, But I figured the auto command would be easier
[07:04] <reisio> jonathon: update-grub, innit?
[07:04] <kla> jonathon: update-grub
[07:04] <CaptAnon> #python
[07:04] <CaptAnon> ?
[07:05] <jonathon> That works I suppose
[07:05] <jonathon> Thanks
[07:05] <Tech-1> sudo update-grub
[07:06] <vox> any ubuntu devs around? i need to tear someone a new outlet.
[07:06] <reisio> vox: Ubuntu dev, what's that
[07:06] <vox> reisio: heh
[07:09] <reisio> looking at something that says Canonical had 4500 commits to GNOME
[07:09] <reisio> during some period in 2010
[07:09] <vox> i just want to strangle someone
[07:09] <reisio> which is not a lot
[07:09] <reisio> vox: why for?
[07:09] <Tm_T> vox: reisio: please take this offtopic discussion to some more suitable place, thanks
[07:10] <adammw111> Hi, my sister wants to use the computer, how do I get a guest session in Ubuntu 11.10?
[07:11] <Yahosain> Hi is there any variable that gives me a device label?for example I have a cd named "pictures" in sr0.
[07:11] <Tm_T> adammw111: hmmm, isn't it as an option on the login screen?
[07:11] <vox> i'll ask it as question then. How do i stop ubuntu insisting that i cant boot with a degraded raidset, even tho the system lives on a seperate single disk, and the raidset is only used for file storage. ubuntu constantly dropping to busybox is not a solution. any ideas?
[07:11] <reisio> Tm_T: is it off topic to want to know what problem a user is having?
[07:11] <andyn> adammw111, Tm_T: there should be an option in the top right corner menu, too, if i am not mistaken
[07:11] <Tm_T> reisio: no, but the way he was putting it was offtopic (:
[07:11] <reisio> Yahosain: variable? for what?
[07:12] <reisio> Tm_T: mmm
[07:12] <adammw111> Tm_T: nope, where would it be? I only see my name and other... Only battery level in top right i think
[07:12] <Yahosain> something which would tell me the label of sr0 for example
[07:12] <adammw111> I was expecting it to be in the user menu like it was in 10.10 but its not there either
[07:12] <reisio> vox: couldn't you mount it after boot?
[07:13] <reisio> Yahosain: oh, it shows as PICTURES in another OS?
[07:13] <Yahosain> yes
[07:13] <reisio> Yahosain: if you look at it in a file manager (Nautilus, for example), it'd probably show
[07:13] <Yahosain> no I want it for a bash script
[07:13] <Yahosain> haha
[07:14] <Yahosain> something like a terminal command
[07:14] <vox> reisio: it will not boot. at all. since 11.10, if it cant start a raidset during boot time, it gives you an option to either a: not start the raidset and drop to busybox(not useful) or start the raidset and boot normally.. and then when the raidset wont start, because it's degraded, it drops to busybox anyway. so you cannot boot. at all.
[07:15] <pacal> Hello #ubuntu. My friend's unable to choose between the OS's on the list that GRUB gives. His keyboard is unresponsive except for when he pressed alt+ctrl+delete (at which point the computer just restarts, probably due to the BIOS). I've googled the problem, but it yields only solutions we've already tried: He has legacy support enabled on his usb-connected keyboard.
[07:15] <reisio> Yahosain: ah
[07:16] <reisio> Yahosain: there's a package for cd info somewhere, with a name something like 'cdinfo'
[07:16] <reisio> but IIRC you can grab a lot of info from /proc/
[07:18] <ghufran> installer for ubuntu 11.1 is stuck at "saving installed packages". installed earlier but couldn't boot into it due to some disk mounting issues. so now i am installing again.. but it appears it is stuck now .. :S
[07:18] <adammw111> I tried also /usr/share/gdm/guest-session/guest-session-launch and my session locks but nothing else happens
[07:19] <reisio> Yahosain: cdrecord -v 127 -toc ?
[07:19] <kla> reisio: probably doesn't include such 'high-level' data as labels
[07:20] <html> ghufran,  do back to the good old 10.04 or 10.10  and its well documented if something goes amiss
[07:20] <reisio> never be able to find this in my log
[07:21] <Yahosain> reisio:wodim: No write mode specified.
[07:21] <Yahosain> wodim: Assuming -tao mode.
[07:21] <ghufran> html: thats much more trouble for me ..! though the power button has an option "Restart to complete updates" in red color .. does that mean its complete?
[07:21] <Yahosain> wodim: Future versions of wodim may have different drive dependent defaults.
[07:21] <Yahosain> wodim: Badly placed option. Global options must be before any track.
[07:21] <kla> Yahosain: isoinfo
[07:21] <reisio> Yahosain: is it just for Ubuntu or any distro?
[07:22] <html> yes, or its goona comeback and finsih it up
[07:22] <Yahosain> no just for ubuntu
[07:22] <reisio> Yahosain: is the label used for the mount name in /media/ ?
[07:22] <html> yes, or its goona comeback and finsih it up ghufran
[07:23] <Yahosain> no the label is used for sharing a device like DVDRW or USB hdd or any other on public network
[07:23] <Yahosain> im gonna mount the devices in public folder
[07:23] <ghufran> html: its the same thing. still trying to mount /media/Data even though i selected this time not to use that partition..
[07:23] <Yahosain> I thought it will be nice to put the devices labels on the folders
[07:24] <reisio> okay, well
[07:24] <reisio> if it's just for Ubuntu, you can just figure out what nautilus uses :P
[07:24] <nowimproved1> who likes gnome3 or whatever flavor of bs ubuntu uses?
[07:25] <kla> oh darn let me look..
[07:25] <Yahosain> if it is complicated i will just use sr0,sda4 ... for the names
[07:25] <reisio> nowimproved1: some people
[07:26] <reisio> Yahosain: you catch kla's suggestion?
[07:26] <kla> Yahosain: isoinfo -i /dev/sr0 -d | awk '/Volume\ id/{ print $3; }'
[07:28] <zosky> hi yall. what is the best (easiest!) way to scrape a <div> tag by name in my BASH script ?
[07:28] <Yahosain> isoinfo -i /dev/sr0 -d | awk '/Volume\ id/{ print $3; }' did it thankyou verymuch but the problem is that it will only give me the label for a cd or dvd not a hdd partition
[07:28] <nowimproved1> if you ask me they should have expanded on gnome2 and made it cleaner more simple.. win 7 style  people dont want that weird shit although gnome3 is better than unity bs
[07:28] <reisio> zosky: you want the info inside the tag?
[07:29] <reisio> Yahosain: oh
[07:29] <reisio> Yahosain: mmmm, blkid does that, but I don't recall if you need root
[07:29] <zosky> yes, raw (with all the contained <tables> and all)
[07:29] <kla> Yahosain: I'm not quite sure I understand your requirements but.. have you tried looking under /dev/disk/by-id/uuid/label ?
[07:30] <nowimproved1> ubuntu should ship with e17 def
[07:30] <reisio> zosky: there are a couple things in CPAN for doing it properly, otherwise you can use any number of nasty regex
[07:30] <reisio> nowimproved1: ha, imagine purple/orange/brown e17
[07:31] <nowimproved1> it could be good though reisio better than unity .. better than xfce and kde
[07:31] <Yahosain> I think I can do it by using both blkid and isoinfo
[07:31] <omido> can i install ubuntu and install its grub on its root partition and chainload its grub2 to my other Distro's bootloader?(which is grub legacy)
[07:32] <nowimproved1> they should find something and stick with it.. or make their own desktop environment
[07:33] <nowimproved1> things need to be more standard
[07:33] <reisio> good luck finding a commercial organization that'll agree with you on that
[07:33] <html> do what?
[07:33] <reisio> omido: chainload grub2 _from_ grub1?
[07:33] <ikonia> nowimproved1: what are you talking about at all ?
[07:33] <nowimproved1> ikonia, i dont even know
[07:34] <ikonia> nowimproved1: ok, best to stop then
[07:34] <nowimproved1> k
[07:34] <ikonia> thanks
[07:34] <nowimproved1> np
[07:34] <omido> reisio:  yeah .cause for me grub2 has been an unstable piece of crap.(maybe just for me )
[07:34] <ikonia> omido: how is grub2 unstable ?
[07:34] <Yahosain> blkid and isoinfo is the way thank you kla and reisio
[07:35] <omido> ikonia:  i had pclinuxos 2011 with pae kernel installed and then installed ubuntu 11.10 and choosed to install grub2 on MBR(where pclinuxos's grub was installed). ubuntu showed me pclinuxos in the bootloader selection but faild to boot it .
[07:36] <nowimproved1> install gentoo
[07:36] <ikonia> omido: define "failed to boot it"
[07:36] <ikonia> nowimproved1: again - what are you talking about ?
[07:36] <nowimproved1> holy instant. fast typer bubs
[07:36] <ikonia> nowimproved1: please stop talking nonsnese.
[07:36] <ikonia> nowimproved1: the channel is for ubuntu support discussion, can you keep to that topic please.
[07:36] <omido> ikonia:  i wonder when exactly you wanna stop being just a fan boy and become a real helper. cause you have always been like that
[07:37] <ikonia> omido: I'm asking you to define your problem so I can help you
[07:37] <omido> it faild to boot it showing errors which i dont exactly remember . now my issue is that i want to chainload ubuntu to another distro. isnt that clear enough ?
[07:37] <kla> or in canadian English: what are you taking a-boot?
[07:37] <ikonia> omido: I didn't see the question about you wanting to chainload, I just saw you stating grub2 is unstable, which is wrong and was trying to help
[07:38] <ikonia> omido: where is the grub1 bootsector installed on your system ?
[07:38] <omido> ikonia:  on MBR
[07:39] <ikonia> omido: ok, where is grub2 boot sector installed ?
[07:39] <omido> ikonia:  its not installed yet . i want to make sure if i can chainload it and then do the actual installition . i want to intall ubuntu's bootloader in its root partition
[07:40] <ikonia> omido: sure, you can chain load any other boot loader you want.
[07:40] <omido> i can easily chainload the distros which use grub legacy .i can also edit grub1's files and add other grub1 os. but i'm total noob when it comes to grub2 (seems like its a little diffrent)
[07:40] <ikonia> omido: just keep in mind, that if you install grub2 to the MBR, grub1 will be gone, so you'll need to install grub1 to somewhere else AND update the place it looks for the config files
[07:41] <ikonia> omido: why don't you just use grub1 instead of grub2 then ?
[07:41] <omido> ikonia:  thats exactly what i want to do . for me grub1 is better but i want to have ubuntu too .
[07:41] <ikonia> omido: ok - so you don't want to chainload at all then, you just want to install grub1
[07:42] <html> how do i fix the login mangers ?
[07:43] <omido> ikonia:  i have Grub1 installed(i installed PClinuxOS 2011 which uses grub 1 as default bootloader)
[07:43] <ikonia> omido: ok, so all you need to do is configure grub1 to point at the ubuntu boot files
[07:43] <ikonia> omido: don't need to install grub2 at all, and don't need to chain load
[07:44] <omido> ikonia:  i suck at command line or editing configuration files .
[07:44] <omido> thats why i came here to ask for help
[07:45] <ikonia> omido: if you need help, you'll get better help if you ask the right/proper question, eg: how do I edit grub1 to boot ubuntu, rather than "I want to chainload grub1 from grub2 and grub2 is unstable"
[07:45] <arooni-mobile> i have 11.10; i'm plugged in via ethernet.  how do i create a wireless network that allows other devices to connect (and share) my connection?   i have a thinkpad t420; with a Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 wireless card;   i have already tried 2-3 guides
[07:45] <ikonia> !ics | arooni-mobile
[07:47] <adam__> any gurus out there
[07:47] <ghufran> how do i edit proxy settings in ubuntu 11.10?? there used to be a global proxy tool earlier. but now there isn't ..
[07:47] <ikonia> omido: do you use a shared /boot partition between the 2 OS's ?
[07:47] <faLUCE>  Hi. I installed lubuntu 11.10 on a Intel BOXDG41AN mini-itx mobo (with Pentium dual core E5700). Then I installed few programs and created my own live distro, lubuntu 11.10 based, with Remastersys. Then I booted on another pc (Intel DH67CF LGA-1155 mini itx mobo, with cpu i5 2400) with this distro but the graphic card does not work. I can make it work only at low resolution with nomodeset. The rest is ok  How can I solve? Where can be the problem?
[07:47] <ikonia> adam__: just ask the question about the problem you are having
[07:48] <ikonia> faLUCE: we don't support your custom spins
[07:48] <faLUCE> ikonia: what a stupid answer
[07:48] <ikonia> ghufran: that tool should still be there, let me see if I can find the application name to call it,
[07:48] <ikonia> faLUCE: no, it's the factual answer, you are making your own ubuntu spin, we only support the official builds in this channel
[07:48] <faLUCE> ikonia: in addition, talk for yourself
[07:48] <adam__> lol i have a toshiba satellite with a realtek 8176 wireless  and i cant get the on board wireless to work
[07:48] <faLUCE> ikonia: stupid answer
[07:48] <ikonia> faLUCE: please drop the attitude, I'm just making you aware that your custom spin is something we don't support
[07:49] <faLUCE> ikonia: ok, I'll simply ignore you
[07:49] <omido> ikonia:  no i dont have.  right now the only operating system that i have installed is pclinuxos
[07:49] <html> yes we do, there parts that are known to be used in ubuntu
[07:49] <adam__> i have ubuntu 11.10 installed
[07:49] <ghufran> ikonia: its strange really. internet is working fine with "system settings". but installing software doesn't work.
[07:49] <html> yes we do, there parts that are known to be used in ubuntu (spins)
[07:49] <omido> faLUCE: ikonia is a knowledgable user. you have to respect him
[07:50] <omido> altough he is too much of an ubuntu fan booy
[07:50] <ikonia> omido: what are you talking about ubuntu fanboy ?
[07:50] <html> adam__,   well i know updating you grub it a must for that brand
[07:51] <omido> ikonia: when someone has issues with ubuntu you offend him/her
[07:51] <adam__> sorry semi noob and it has been a while
[07:51] <ikonia> omido: no, I don't
[07:51] <adam__> but it is fully updated
[07:51] <ikonia> adam__: are you comfortable using the command line at all ?
[07:52] <adam__> sorta
[07:52] <adam__> i am not on that pc atm
[07:52] <adam__> what do you have in mine
[07:52] <omido> i believe ubuntu needs something like YaST or Mandriva(mageia) control center ..
[07:53] <adam__> mind*
[07:53] <ikonia> omido: it has it, it's called software center, synaptic, aptitude, there are many package managers
[07:53] <ikonia> omido: and there are many configuration tools
[07:54] <html> adam__,  plug it in to a lan (wired connection) and see if it works and update it, and put this in
[07:54] <html> sudo apt-get upgrade grub
[07:54] <ikonia> adam__: just need you to get onto that PC and do "sudo iwconfig" see if any of the cards it sees have "wireless extensions"
[07:54] <omido> ikonia:  as a linux guru you know that YaST is a little bit diffrent ..
[07:54] <ikonia> omido: not really, it's just a package managment and configuration editor
[07:54] <RooTSh3LL> any one help me
[07:54] <reisio> RooTSh3LL: okay
[07:55] <html> yes?
[07:55] <RooTSh3LL> any gui php editor creator out there. I need one
[07:55] <adam__> ok i dont have wired available but i can use a usb wireless adapter
[07:55] <html> adam did you plug ur latop in?
[07:56] <reisio> RooTSh3LL: geany, bluefish, gphpedit
[07:56] <adam__> would that be acceptable
[07:56] <ikonia> adam__: are you talking to me ?
[07:56] <RooTSh3LL> reisio thanks for reply
[07:56] <adam__> hmm how do i specify whom i am talking to
[07:57] <RooTSh3LL> Why you all slow
[07:58] <adam__> hmm how do i specify whom i am talking to
[07:58] <qin> !tab | adam__
[07:58] <html> type the name and press "tab"  apon entering  you see lettering in red adam
[07:58] <RooTSh3LL>  '<
[07:58] <adam__> html, ok i dont have wired available but i can use a usb wireless adapter
[07:59] <html> try really hard to get wired in
[07:59] <adam__> is there one on one chat?
[07:59] <ikonia> adam__: just say the name first
[07:59] <html> yes
[07:59] <ikonia> adam__: as I'm doing to you now
[08:00] <adam__> lol ok
[08:00] <adam__> ikonia,  ok
[08:00] <html> thanks ikonia
[08:00] <adam__> html,  I DO NOT HAVE THE WIRELESS ROUTER NEAR BY
[08:01] <qin> !caps | adam__
[08:01] <adam__> html, sorry
[08:02] <adam__> html,  so yes it would be difficult
[08:02] <html> without one it makes helping u hardeer
[08:03] <html> fine adam__
[08:03] <alkisg> in which backported Lucid package can I find /lib/firmware/htc_9271.fw, to use along with linux-image-generic-lts-backport-natty  ?
[08:03] <adam__> html,  i see
[08:04] <adam__> html: i am sorry
[08:05] <adam__> html,  is there a nother way?
[08:05] <abstrakt> what do I need to do to install DVD support on 11.10?
[08:05] <abstrakt> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs only covers up to 11.04
[08:06] <adam__> hmm i am still here
[08:07] <html> do you have an andriod?
[08:07] <shovell> html,  no i do not?
[08:08] <html> i was meaaning that for adam
[08:08] <shovell> html, sorry name changed from adam to shovell
[08:09] <html> cellphone?
[08:09] <shovell> yes i have a cell
[08:09] <shovell> it is nothing special
[08:10] <html> can you use that as a hotspot ,preferred wired
[08:10] <buck76> how can i make a script that checks MAC address every 5secs and then plays a sound and runs another script if the MAC address is not what it should be?
[08:11] <One> Hello, i search a book for learn unix administration. And to learn administer web server, dns server, etc... I search a complet book for learn unix administration. Can you help me ?
[08:11] <shovell> html,  no i can not i am on a different pc atm can i wire to it?
[08:11] <paradox1> One, Google
[08:12] <shovell> html,  like internet sharing in windows
[08:12] <html> paradox1,  are u channel op?
[08:12] <tycel> hello:)
[08:12] <Haffe> One: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596003432.do ?
[08:12] <paradox1> Yes.
[08:12] <paradox1> Server admin
[08:12] <abstrakt> One, http://tldp.org/guides.html
[08:12] <Newb> why am I in here 5 seconds and got DCC spam?!
[08:12] <markskilbeck> Linux Mint is the best. Right?
[08:12] <abstrakt> Newb, cuz... you're... a... noob?
[08:12] <One> paradox1, Yes i already search, but i would like council
[08:13] <Newb> abstrakt: I guess
[08:13] <html> shovell,  try it  , but back up that os first
[08:13] <Newb> I am not a noob... I am a newb
[08:13] <paradox1> Linux mint is good
[08:13] <One> Haffe, abstrakt, Thanks
[08:13] <abstrakt> what exactly is Linux Mint
[08:13] <Newb> isnt mint ubuntu?
[08:13] <shovell> html,  huh
[08:13] <abstrakt> i've read about it once before, but I forgot what it was instantly
[08:13] <paradox1> a distro
[08:13] <tycel> Mint is Linux halftime?:P
[08:13] <abstrakt> what is the purpose/goal?
[08:13] <paradox1> its ubuntu
[08:13] <buck76> is it even possible to make a script that checks the MAC address every 5 secs? is #!/bash/bin the right format for such an operation?
[08:14] <Benkinooby> !mint
[08:14] <heph|wins> oheyguys
[08:14] <DanAKAHollywood> buck76, Yes it is. Use ifconfig and slee
[08:14] <DanAKAHollywood> sleep*
[08:14] <markskilbeck> The goal: not give users shitty Unity.
[08:14] <paradox1> buck76: /sbin/ifconfig | grep HWaddr
[08:14] <abstrakt> One, specifically you probably want to read http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html and http://tldp.org/LDP/nag2/index.html
[08:14] <Newb> OOOOO HE SAID A BAD WORD!
[08:14] <tycel> wanna hack gnome3? oh wait...you did?
[08:14] <heph|wins> OPS!!! LANGUAGE!!!
[08:14] <heph|wins> :P
[08:14] <abstrakt> One, also you will want to learn bash very well
[08:15] <abstrakt> One, /join #bash
[08:15] <buck76> thanks.
[08:15] <Newb> is cyanogenmod9 out yet?
[08:15] <Newb> anyone got an ETA on that?
[08:15] <heph|wins> for terraria?
[08:15] <shovell> html, i am confused as to what you arre asking me to do
[08:15] <heph|wins> hurr hurr
[08:15] <abstrakt> One, http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[08:15]  * Newb saw a ninja panda earlier
[08:16] <abstrakt> One, read those three documents I just linked you, SAG, NAG and BashGuide, and you'll be a decent Linux administrator
[08:16] <One> abstrakt, Ok thanks you very much
[08:16] <paradox1> buck76: it would be a really small script easy to write
[08:16] <paradox1> few lines
[08:16] <abstrakt> One, actually I would recommend learning Bash before you learn anything else, personally, because Bash is the centerpiece of all *nix administration
[08:17] <Newb> what about ash?
[08:17] <Newb> cant forget ash
[08:17] <abstrakt> One, for your practical purposes this is true, there are other shells than Bash, but Bash is by far the most common and if you learn it, then other shells will make sense as well
[08:17] <abstrakt> bleh
[08:17] <abstrakt> zsh ftw
[08:17]  * Newb is more of a taco shell fan
[08:18] <One> abstrakt, Thank you for your help
[08:18]  * tycel drinks his tea and waits.
[08:18] <buck76> paradox1: i'm on it. thank you, i'll pop back for peer review! ;)
[08:18] <Newb> OK, so I am confused...
[08:18] <Newb> why is there no root account?
[08:18] <paradox1> buck76: Paste me your code when your done :)
[08:18] <Newb> you have to activate it?
[08:19] <Newb> and why to this day, will no one answer this question for me?
[08:19] <auronandace> !roroot | Newb
[08:19] <abstrakt> One, this may be of interest to you as well https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting_to_know_and_work_with_your_system because it is Ubuntu specific
[08:19] <auronandace> !noroot | Newb
[08:20] <abstrakt> Newb, because you don't need it
[08:20] <ikonia> Newb: the sudo permissions model is used for security, that is why the root account is locked by default
[08:20] <abstrakt> Newb, sudo works fine
[08:20] <tycel> but what about zem z0mg|linux|wizards that use there root for everything?:D
[08:20] <Newb> so ubuntu take the apple approach to this?
[08:20] <One> abstrakt, Ok thanks
[08:21] <ikonia> Newb: no, but the concept is similar
[08:21] <Newb> protect the end user = because they will hurt themselves?
[08:21] <kazuo> hi folks
[08:22] <DanAKAHollywood> sudo bash and you are root...
[08:22] <DanAKAHollywood> That simple
[08:22] <ikonia> DanAKAHollywood: no
[08:22] <Newb> so why not just leave it and let the end-user make the decision?
[08:22] <ikonia> if you need a root shell use "sudo -i"
[08:23] <ubuntu|hasroot> lol
[08:23] <cherva> can someone explain to me that is the status of my mdadm array http://pastebin.com/HVRQEuUu :?
[08:23] <ikonia> Newb: if you are comfortable setting the root password and working as root, good for you, and you should know how to do that, in which case, you are fine. Most people don't so the security decision is taken to protect them
[08:23] <DanAKAHollywood> Then when you are in a root shell type passwd and set a password. That's it
[08:23] <ubuntu|hasroot> its really easy to get root access permanently on ubuntu
[08:23] <ubuntu|hasroot> 1) sudo su -
[08:23] <ikonia> cherva: oh dear, that looks bad, it looks like you've split your array
[08:23] <ubuntu|hasroot> 2) passwd root
[08:23] <ikonia> ubuntu|hasroot: no
[08:23] <ubuntu|hasroot> 3) done
[08:23] <ikonia> do not use "sudo su - "
[08:24] <ubuntu|hasroot> yes. do use it
[08:24] <ikonia> I have given the correct to get a root shell
[08:24] <ikonia> ubuntu|hasroot: please do not suggest that
[08:24] <tycel> So, I heard linux users pwned windows users at the meet?:D
[08:24] <Reikoku> ubuntu|hasroot: It's easier than that: 1) sudo passwd && su
[08:24] <ubuntu|hasroot> yes, lets hold everyone's hands
[08:24] <ubuntu|hasroot> let them make mistakes. :P best way to learn
[08:24] <ikonia> cherva: what has happened to put the array in that setup
[08:24] <ikonia> ubuntu|hasroot: correct, yes, thats the idea, help them not make mistakes/learn
[08:24] <ikonia> ubuntu|hasroot: no, we are not here to push people into mistakes
[08:24] <ubuntu|hasroot> you learn by mistakes. not by having everything working all the time.
[08:25] <ubuntu|hasroot> sometimes the best way to learn is to break something :)
[08:25] <Newb> amen
[08:25] <ikonia> ubuntu|hasroot: YOU do, not everyone, like I said, we are not here to push people into mistakes
[08:25] <html> what the command to find out whats on the os/hardware?
[08:25] <DanAKAHollywood> If ubuntu users want root by default they can always use ubuntu server...
[08:25] <ikonia> html: lspci will show you the pci devices, based on your earlier question I assume that's what you want
[08:25] <ikonia> DanAKAHollywood: the server root password is also locked by default
[08:25] <ubuntu|hasroot> sudo su -  << gives you $100, a new PC, a new car, and a new girlfriend. try it out!
[08:25] <Newb> so did this anti-root attitude come about at the same time that OEMs started shipping ubuntu?
[08:26] <ubuntu|hasroot> newb probably
[08:26] <html> differant question
[08:26] <ikonia> Newb: it's not "anti-root" it's a security model as the factoids you've been given show
[08:26] <ikonia> Newb: have a proper read of them
[08:26] <ikonia> html: ok, what are you looking for ?
[08:26] <Newb> factoids?
[08:26] <ikonia> !sudo | Newb
[08:26] <ikonia> !noroot | Newb
[08:27] <ikonia> !root | Newb
[08:27] <ikonia> Newb: check out the links there
[08:27] <windparadise> hello, pls what are the virtualisation alternatives to ubuntu, such apart from vmware ? which runs perfectly?
[08:27] <DanAKAHollywood> ikonia, can you explain why when I installed Ubuntu Server on my six latest servers, it went directly to a root shell when I logged in?
[08:27] <html> ikonia, side note ? why did you kick him?
[08:27] <ikonia> DanAKAHollywood: nope
[08:27] <cherva> ikonia, I assembled the array everuthing worked ok then restarted before the sync finished and because I forgot to add the array in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf I had to asamble the drives at boot ... "mdadm --assamble --scan" and here am I .... that array is my /home and a few mail boxes ... one guy called and said that he misses a mail so I thing i realy splitted them up :(
[08:27] <auronandace> windparadise: virtualbox and qemu
[08:27] <Newb> hmmm
[08:27] <ikonia> windparadise: look into "kvm"
[08:27] <Newb> !root
[08:27] <itbcn8> hi all, quick question. Every time I start my PC the dimness is turned all the way down. It is a Packard Bell OneTwo, running Ubuntu 11.10, and has integrated intel graphics. any ideas?
[08:27] <Newb> hmmm
[08:27] <Reikoku> ikonia: Some functions need a root password, I had to set one for an install process, I think it was fglrx beta drivers
[08:27] <windparadise> auronandace: can we install windows on them and share the folder with ubuntu ?
[08:28] <kazuo> has anyone installed the new 3.2.0.2 kernel yet ??
[08:28] <Newb> so wait... you give me help that just gives me a command to make a bad matrix reference?
[08:28] <ikonia> cherva: ok, I think you've gotten yourself into a bad situation to be honest,
[08:28] <auronandace> windparadise: yes with virtualbox, i use it a lot
[08:28] <windparadise> ok, let me look at it
[08:28] <Newb> wth
[08:28] <ikonia> Newb: read the links, not just the factoid
[08:28] <Newb> what links?
[08:28] <ikonia> cherva: you need to mount both devices and look at which one has the data you want, then issue a sync command with that one as the primary
[08:28] <Newb> all I saw was bad reference scrolls
[08:29] <ikonia> cherva: bringing the other one into sync
[08:29] <ikonia> Newb: I'll send them to a pm for you
[08:29] <Newb> nevermind
[08:29] <ikonia> !root > Newb
[08:29] <ikonia> !sudo > Newb
[08:29] <Newb> PM?
[08:29] <ikonia> !noroot > Newb
[08:29] <ikonia> Newb: you should have a private message from the user ubottu
[08:29] <Newb> wow, kinda rude to PM without asking aint it?
[08:29] <html> how do i fix the login mangers ? or how do i reinstall the default ubuntu 10.10  login screen ? lxde was the one i used , but i took it off and now im in "safe mode "
[08:29] <cherva> ikonia, can I mount them now or I have to stop the array first
[08:29] <Newb> I give up
[08:29] <ikonia> cherva: you need them running to mount them
[08:29] <Newb> I wont get a solid answer
[08:29] <html> Newb,  hes the channel op
[08:30] <ikonia> Newb: if you read the links that has been sent in a pm to you, you'll find good info
[08:30] <Newb> html: so?
[08:30] <Newb> ooooh so ops dont have to follow rules?
[08:30] <Newb> lol I get it
[08:30] <html> Newb,  well whats the rules say?
[08:30] <auronandace> Newb: you won't get an answer if your not willing to look for it
[08:30] <ikonia> Newb: what are you talking about ????
[08:30] <ikonia> Newb: the info is waiting for you, have a read through the links ubottu just sent you,
[08:30] <Newb> etiquette rather... not rules
[08:31] <Newb> yeah I will read
[08:31] <kazuo> has anyone had webcam issues with the new 3.2.0.2 ubuntu kernel ???
[08:31] <KNUBBIG> Hi, I set my Tomcat7 to use Java 7 and now the manager app is in some language (maybe chinese or persian, dunno) and the admin app is in spanish. Any idea why that happens?
[08:31] <ubuntu|hasroot> no, i use a HID webcam
[08:31] <ubuntu|hasroot> works on everything.
[08:31] <cherva> ikonia, let me think for a sec the only thing missing is 1 mail that is beeing resend ... so if I sync one drive to the other no mather which one I'll be ok ?
[08:31] <ikonia> cherva: I don't see that as an issue at all
[08:31] <ikonia> cherva: infact I think that will bring you to a better place to move forward
[08:31] <Newb> none of those links inlcude the info that I was asking about
[08:32] <ikonia> Newb: apologies, what is the info you are looking for ?
[08:32] <Newb> ok, I guess I wont get it answered... I will try another distro
[08:32] <Newb> nevermind
[08:32] <kazuo> his| any idea why my Logitech C60 webcam suddenly stopped working on 3.2.0.2 but works great on anything before
[08:32] <ubuntu|hasroot> its still a better policy to explain to your community the risks and rewards of using administrative access (root), than to just say "DONT USE ROOT" and reply with "JUST DONT OK??" when they ask why. :P
[08:33] <ubuntu|hasroot> sudo su - < use it!
[08:33] <auronandace> kazuo: checked kernel newbies to see the difference between them?
[08:33] <kazuo> couldnt see anyting aimed at cams...  3.2.0.1 was fine
[08:33] <sattu94> Hi!
[08:34] <cherva> ikonia, I'll look for that mail .....
[08:35] <cherva> ikonia, hmm can't mount /dev/sdb1 i get
[08:35] <buck76> paradox1: http://pastebin.com/3E9uk2tj
[08:35] <cherva> ikonia, hmm can't mount /dev/sdb1 i get "mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'"
[08:36] <buck76> paradox1: how's that look?
[08:36] <paradox1> ill see
[08:36] <ikonia> cherva: probably not synced
[08:36] <buck76> that's not my real MAC tho, but the idea is the same.
[08:36] <ccolorado> Hi can anyone tell me what is the purpose of /etc/mysql/debian-start and how can i disable it ?  I get a log of log entries saying <DATE> <HOSTNAME> /etc/mysql/debian-start[XXXX]: FATAL ERROR: Upgrade failed
[08:37] <shovell> html,  did i lose you?
[08:38] <cherva> ikonia, so i do "rsync -aH /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1" and I'm good to go having the now active drive synced to sdb1 ?
[08:38] <ikonia> cherva: whoaaa now
[08:38] <ikonia> no
[08:38] <buck76> paradox1: actually, i'll rewrite it. i'll get back in five.
[08:38] <ikonia> I meant start the single array with both drives included so it does a sync within mdadm
[08:38] <paradox1> ok
[08:39] <shovell> ok i think i lost html
[08:39] <sattu94> shovell: lol.
[08:39] <shovell> yep
[08:40] <cherva> ikonia, not exactly sure how to do that ....
[08:40] <shovell> so i post my question again
[08:40] <ikonia> cherva: ok, stop the array md0 and md_d0
[08:40] <ikonia> cherva: create an array using sda1 (as you know it has good data on it - correct me if I'm wrong)
[08:41] <ikonia> cherva: create the array with /dev/sda1 and "missing"
[08:41] <ikonia> cherva: then add /dev/sdb1 to the array once it's running, and it will sync the data from sda1 to sdb1 and you'll have a stable array
[08:41] <ikonia> then update the mdadm.conf and you will be fine
[08:42] <cherva> ikonia, got it :) I just have to find a way to check that i really have good data on sda1
[08:42] <windparadise> auronandace: when installed virtualbox on ubuntu, have you been able to run windows programms on virtualbox successfully? or there were errors on some of the programs?
[08:42] <ikonia> cherva: cool, any issue just ask
[08:42] <audifahrer> hello
[08:43] <auronandace> windparadise: they run fine
[08:43] <windparadise> ok, the second concern is about sharing virtualbox folder with ubuntu, how did you took care of that ?
[08:44] <auronandace> windparadise: open the settings of the vm and check out shared folders, its rather straightforward
[08:44] <windparadise> i.e I want to share My DOcument folder on virtualbox to be access in ubuntu
[08:44] <windparadise> ah, ok, thanks
[08:45] <KNUBBIG> shouldn't localepurge remove locales that are listed via locales -a if I select the right locales to keep?
[08:45] <cherva> ikonia, mdadm --examine /dev/sda1 says "faulty removed" and sdb1 says "active sync   /dev/sdb1" .......
[08:46] <cherva> ikonia, maybe sdb1 is the rigth dribe
[08:47] <cherva> ikonia, maybe sdb1 is the rigth drive*
[08:48] <ikonia> maybe
[08:49] <cherva> ikonia, one last thing can I do this in init level 1 and then go to level 5
[08:51] <ikonia> cherva: sorry, 2 minutes just doing 2 things
[08:51] <cherva> ikonia, no problem
[08:52] <N1Nja_> Omg why is it quiet?
[08:52] <KNUBBIG> Hm the language of tomcat is only incorrect if I connect from a Mac and use Opera, nice :D
[08:53] <ak47_> I need to speak with Mark Shuttleworth, is he around? I have some concerns with the future of Ubuntu.
[08:53] <ak47_> Thanks.
[08:54] <worstadmin> How come when two hosts have an iscsi lvm mounted, they dont sync changes in files? I edited the file on one host, after mounting the iscsi disk - and the other host didnt show the change until I remounted
[08:55] <ejv> if you don't like ubuntu, fork it ak47_
[08:56] <ejv> great thing about F/OSS software ;)
[08:56] <Shovell> underdog?
[08:56] <ak47_> Ok, I'll just use Debian.
[08:56] <ak47_> Thanks.
[08:57] <llutz_> shuttleworth will be sad :(
[08:59] <KNUBBIG> ak47_ will be sad I think
[09:00] <Randolph> hi all
[09:00] <Reikoku> Hi
[09:06] <xuser1> hi
[09:07] <Shovell> help can not connect with onboard wireless realtek 8176
[09:07] <xuser1> will ubuntu 12.04 have gnome 3 (no unity)?
[09:07] <Shovell> i hope so]
[09:07] <xuser1> i hate unity
[09:07] <xuser1> :D
[09:08] <xuser1> can i make a modificated ubuntu cd with other programs ...?
[09:09] <xuser1> what software can i use to modify a ubuntu iso image?
[09:09] <Shovell> ikonia:  are you there?
[09:09] <Fudge> hi looking for photobook software for a friend, they just bought something online and the software with it is only for windows/osx
[09:09] <ikonia> Shovell: no, sorry I'm not, I'm busy
[09:09] <deej1976> !info remastersys | xuser1
[09:10] <deej1976> !remastersys | xuser1
[09:10] <napsy> Hello. I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 and getting strange linker problems if I try to compile a simple gtk+2.0 program. With gcc `pkg-config --libs --cflags gtk+-2.0` sample.c ... and I get a bunch of 'undefined reference to ...' errors. Any ideas what's wrong with the linker?
[09:10] <cherva> ikonia, did this and I think everythink is ok now http://pastebin.com/fEHFPsSi
[09:10] <Fudge> deej1976  you can use older versions of it though on oneiric
[09:10] <deej1976> !remaster | xuser1
[09:10] <Fudge> xuser1  sorry
[09:10] <ikonia> cherva: I'm sorry, I can't help at the moment
[09:10] <xuser1> ok
[09:10] <xuser1> thanks
[09:11] <deej1976> !enter | xuser1
[09:11] <Fudge> deej1976  having fun
[09:11] <deej1976> Fudge: Yes thanks
[09:11] <Fudge> :p deej1976
[09:12] <xuser1> can i use these tools to modify a linux mint 12 image(based onm ubuntu 11.10) ?
[09:12] <Fudge> probably
[09:12] <researcher> how to know what version is m ubuntu system?
[09:13] <deej1976> xuser1: I'd say ask in #mint but theres only 6 nicks active
[09:13] <faLUCE> [10:09] <elky> faLUCE, if you boot it up, and the video works, that xorg.conf can be saved to a flash drive, for example, and then you can replace it on your new machine when you use your remastered livecd. i don't know how you'd make this permanent to the remastersys livecd thingie though
[09:13] <oCean> xuser1: this channel cannot help you with mint questions
[09:13] <xuser1> but mint is ubuntu based
[09:13] <deej1976> researcher: lsb_release -r
[09:14] <llutz_> !mint | xuser1
[09:14] <oCean> xuser1: yes, there are actually many derivatives. Mint is not supported
[09:14] <researcher> gcristian: thanks
[09:14] <xuser1> ok
[09:14] <Shovell> ubottu:  are you a computer?
[09:15] <faLUCE> now the question becomes: how can I backup the xorg conf on a xorg.conf file?
[09:16] <buck77> paradox1: http://pastebin.com/e7HqSuNk
[09:16] <Shovell> ubottu: thats what i thought
[09:16] <xuser1> i will try ubuntu customization kit
[09:16] <xuser1> is easy to use
[09:16] <ajah> i`m running in ubuntu 2d session how can i bind applications in unity different from numeric for example super+z
[09:16] <xuser1> :D
[09:17] <buck77> paradox1: think that works well! only worried if it's a problem to have it running in the background all the time? and also - how to make it start up at boot?
[09:17] <html> if i have a usb wireless adater , how do i go about posting it to known hardware  on the ubuntu site?
[09:17] <faLUCE> popey: any idea?
[09:19] <xuser1> is uck for kde?
[09:20] <deej1976> !info uck | xuser1
[09:21] <KNUBBIG> It says official Ubuntu Live CDs
[09:21] <KNUBBIG> so it's very possible it will break your mint
[09:21] <KNUBBIG> Why don't you ask them first, saving you a lot of work? :)
[09:25] <is_null> hi all, how to disable "pointer on left edge shows dock" on oneiric ?
[09:25] <pirlo> hi
[09:26] <deej1976> !ccsm | is_null
[09:27] <paradox1> buck77
[09:27] <paradox1> you might want to get a second opinion
[09:28] <buck77> paradox1: ok?
[09:28] <buck77> paradox1: it's no good?
[09:28] <paradox1> ask someone else
[09:28] <paradox1> i dont know programming very well
[09:28] <paradox1> i cant say
[09:28] <buck77> paradox1: haha. ok! thanks tho! think i nailed it! =)
[09:29] <Fudge> xuser1  you can use remastersys like you initially asked though
[09:29] <N1Nja_>  
[09:29] <N1Nja_>  
[09:29] <N1Nja_>  
[09:29] <FloodBot1> N1Nja_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:29] <Fudge> it is no longer supported, also consider looking at relinux
[09:29] <buck77> paradox1: amazing what google can teach you in five mins...
[09:30] <N1Nja_>  
[09:30] <N1Nja_>  
[09:30] <N1Nja_>  
[09:30] <FloodBot1> N1Nja_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:30] <oCean> N1Nja_: stop that
[09:30] <keda87> anyone, can u help me to enable jack audio in my ubuntu maverick
[09:30] <N1Nja_> Ok
[09:31] <is_null> thanks deej1976
[09:32] <deej1976> is_null: No problem
[09:32] <is_null> i've read in the review that it was not compatible with oneiric
[09:32] <paradox1> why would your mac address change buck77 ?
[09:32] <N1Nja_> What does it mean when this pops up where going backwards?
[09:32] <deej1976> !info compizconfig-settings-manager | is_null
[09:32] <conntrack> What a nonce
[09:33] <ikonia> conntrack: hey, please tone that sort of comment down
[09:33] <DarsVaeda> Hi, I can not set my date manually, it always reverts to the current date
[09:33] <DarsVaeda> how do I ?
[09:33] <keda87> anyone, can u help me to enable jack audio in my ubuntu maverick?
[09:34] <buck77> paradox1: i think it might happen when the wifi goes out of bounds, for example, and network manager start trying to take care of business. i don't know, but it happens. i'm pretty sure it's network manager that does it too. sometimes it just resets the MAC.
[09:34] <buck77> paradox1: but not anymore!
[09:35] <Shovell> looking for drivers for a realtek 8176 wireless can any one help i tried the forums
[09:35] <DarsVaeda> ha works in the shell
[09:35] <deej1976> buck77: The mac address of the network/wifi card is hard set and shouldn't change unless you specifiy one.
[09:35] <faLUCE> how can I backup xorg configuration? I don't have xorg.conf
[09:35] <buck77> deej1976: i'm spoofing it, but it keeps changing back sometimes.
[09:35] <deej1976> faLUCE: find /etc/X11 -name xorg.conf ?
[09:36] <abstrakt_> why is rvm broken on ubuntu :(
[09:36] <faLUCE> deej1976: there's not
[09:36] <abstrakt_> this used to work fine
[09:36] <DarsVaeda> baww now it doesnt revert back to automatic date -.-
[09:36] <abstrakt_> i added my user to the rvm group, I logged out and back in
[09:36] <abstrakt_> I even rebooted
[09:36] <LjL> N1Nja_: how's about you quit it, it's not fun
[09:37] <N1Nja_> Quit what?
[09:37] <LjL> N1Nja_: i'm sure you know what
[09:38] <N1Nja_> Im not doing anything in this channel I stopped
[09:38] <slobro> wat. my network interface just broke.
[09:38] <buck77> quit
[09:38] <deej1976> faLUCE: Yep your right under 11.10, in vmplayer I've not got one either, hmmm
[09:40] <DarsVaeda> wtf I tried to install the package ntp and it removes linux-headers...
[09:40] <is_null> deej1976: god you're good ! maybe i can newblyshamelessly plug a question about the keyboard shortcuts dialog: http://askubuntu.com/questions/84282/keyboard-shortcut-editor-does-not-intercept-keypresses and be lucky xD
[09:40] <DarsVaeda> do I get them back just be reinstalling the linux-headers package?
[09:41] <deej1976> faLUCE: Have a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/67129/how-come-xorg-refuses-to-generate-an-xorg-conf-file-for-me
[09:42] <slobro> My ISP had some problems on their end, and they restarted my connection. now when I start my computer, my conky script tells me that eth0 has no interface. when i put ifconfig eth0 down, and then up, it starts but doesnt connect to my adsl box. theres 2 other computers connected to the same box, and they work just fine..
[09:42] <slobro> anyone have any clues? s:
[09:43] <ikonia> solars: possibly wants a new dhcp address
[09:43] <oCean> N1Nja_: Please stop what you are doing with the floodbot now
[09:43] <deej1976> slobro: does ifconfig -a show the correct information
[09:44] <deej1976> is_null: Sorry, lucked out, haven't set many keyboard shortcuts before
[09:44] <researcher> WHY I can update from Synaptic but can not  from Ubuntu software center?
[09:44] <deej1976> researcher: Update what?
[09:45] <slobro> deej1976: yeah.. except any IPs.. the lo interface shows inet addr and mask.
[09:45] <researcher> deej1976: updates of application installed
[09:45] <researcher> deej1976: can not install or download a software
[09:45] <hackbert130> researcher: maybe u try running both at the same time?
[09:45] <ikonia> solars: so there is no ip on eth0 ?
[09:46] <researcher> hackbert130: no
[09:47] <xuser1> U.C.K doesnt work http://paste.ubuntu.com/756875/
[09:48] <deej1976> is_null: Click the Disabled label, than keypress
[09:48] <slobro> hmm.. the adsl box though shows that theres a computer connected to the ethernet port
[09:48] <deej1976> is_null: *then
[09:48] <ikonia> slobro: does eth0 have an IP address?
[09:48] <slobro> nope
[09:48] <ikonia> slobro: ok, so that is the core issues
[09:49] <ikonia> slobro: simple test, can you reboot, see if your router gives it a new one ?
[09:49] <slobro> i tried it a few times, it does the same thing again, and i have to restart the eth0 interface
[09:49] <ikonia> slobro: when you restart the eth0 interface does it get an IP ?
[09:50] <hackbert130> slobro: whats in your /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:50] <slobro> ikonia: now it has an inet6 addr. o.O
[09:50] <ikonia> slobro: are you using ipv6 ?
[09:50] <slobro> no
[09:50] <ikonia> slobro: ok, so lets step back to get some background
[09:51] <slobro> hackbert130: auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[09:51] <ikonia> slobro: your machine has how many network cards in it ?
[09:51] <slobro> sony vaio laptop with 1 lan and 1 wlan
[09:52] <ikonia> slobro: ok, so your network card is configured by gnome-network-manager I assume (the desktop applet for configuring the network card)
[09:52] <xuser1> where can i get remastersys ?
[09:52] <slobro> yes
[09:53] <ikonia> slobro: ok, can you just confirm that eth0 is setup and enabled in the application as a dhcp network card ?
[09:53] <ikonia> slobro: (lets remove the basics to find the real problem)
[09:53] <deej1976> !info oem-config-remaster | xuser1
[09:54] <deej1976> xuser1: Or in a terminal: sudo apt-get install oem-config-remaster
[09:54] <callaghan> Hello, I just upgraded to Oneiric. When I run htop in the terminal, I have to press F10 to quit. Now however this activates the global menu. Is there a new shortcut to send F10 to a program?
[09:57] <geirha> researcher: It sounds like the policykit isn't running for whatever reason.
[09:57] <un1baiat> hello
[09:57] <un1baiat> can i change language on ubuntu?
[09:57] <AlanBell> callaghan: if you install compizconfig-settings-manager you can disable the F10 key to get to the first panel menu, or set it to something else
[09:57] <researcher> geirha: what should I DO
[09:58] <AlanBell> callaghan: it is a setting in the unity plugin in the settings manager
[09:59] <geirha> researcher: If you open a terminal and run:  ps -ef | grep '[p]olkit-gnome'   # does it output anything?
[10:00] <AlanBell> un1baiat: in the settings manager there is a Language Support option, that may prompt you do download language packs for the languages you want
[10:00] <researcher> gertidon: no
[10:01] <callaghan> AlanBell: Thank you, that's good to know.
[10:01] <researcher> gertidon: it show this sign >
[10:01] <geirha> researcher: In the same terminal, run it manually:  /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
[10:01] <geirha> researcher: Oh, that means you mistyped the command
[10:01] <AlanBell> callaghan: do let me know if you find another way to do it
[10:01] <geirha> researcher: Hit Ctrl+c and try again
[10:01] <researcher> geirha: it show this sign >
[10:02] <geirha> researcher: You probably forgot the ending ' quote
[10:02] <Shovell> i need a guru
[10:02] <deej1976> !ask | Shovell
[10:03] <researcher> geirha: got this output "taran     1344  1266  0 14:24 ?        00:00:00 /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 "
[10:04] <Shovell> i have a toshiba satellite with a realtek 8176(?) wireless that i cant get to work
[10:04] <geirha> researcher: Ah ok, it's running, then my guess was wrong :/
[10:04] <deej1976> !realtek | Shovell
[10:04] <BenHur> Shovell, did you try jockey-gtk?
[10:05] <Shovell> BenHur:  no i havent what is it
[10:05] <meadhikari> please help me recover my usb drive, when i insert it, two new files(sdc.sdc1) show up in /dev
[10:05] <meadhikari> but i can not mount them
[10:05] <researcher> geirha: yes.its running.But sometime when I try to download and installa software I have problems. Im behind a proxy
[10:05] <Fudge> hi i am trying to use gdm in oneiric, anyone had success with making it work?
[10:05] <BenHur> Shovell, open a terminal an type jockey-gtk
[10:06] <BenHur> Shovell, jockey is a software the will find closed source drivers for you
[10:06] <geirha> researcher: What type of proxy?
[10:06] <xoveruk> I used to have a throughput tool for ubuntu but forgot the name of it.
[10:06] <xoveruk> What are good ones?
[10:06] <researcher> im in office
[10:07] <researcher> geirha: im in office having a firewall
[10:07] <callaghan> AlanBell: Well there are two promising checkboxes in the terminal under Edit/Keyboard Shortcuts (Enable Menu Access Keys, Enable the Menu Shortcut Key). But they have no effect as far as i can tell...
[10:07] <geirha> researcher: Well, there shouldn't be any difference in downloading a package with the software center and synaptic
[10:07] <deej1976> researcher: What happens if you run: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:07] <deej1976> researcher: pastebin any errors please
[10:08] <BenHur> xoveruk, what's a throughput tool?
[10:08] <Shovell> BenHur:  well it found a diffferent problem i didnt know i had yet
[10:08] <researcher> geirha: I get this "W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  407  Proxy Authentication Required "
[10:08] <xoveruk> interface throughput.
[10:08] <AlanBell> callaghan: yeah, I should think compiz steals keystrokes before anything else gets a look at them
[10:09] <BenHur> Shovell, what problem?
[10:09] <meadhikari> please help me recover my usb drive, when i insert it, two new files(sdc.sdc1) show up in /dev
[10:10] <deej1976> researcher: http://askubuntu.com/questions/77449/how-to-configure-proxy-authentication-to-work-with-ubuntu-software-center
[10:10] <callaghan> AlanBell: that explains it... but does that mean when using Unity 2D they should work?
[10:10] <Shovell> BenHur:  ati display drivers installing them noe
[10:11] <Shovell> BenHur:  that did not find my realtek wireless
[10:11] <Fudge> meadhikari  sdc1 is where the files are sdc is the drive
[10:11] <BenHur> Shovell,  then follow the link given to you
[10:11] <researcher> geirha: thanks.bye
[10:11] <meadhikari> Fudge, how to get the files?
[10:11] <sanjeev__> whois sanjeev
[10:12] <deej1976> sanjeev__: you forgot the / in front of whois
[10:12] <AlanBell> sanjeev__: you are! or add a /
[10:13] <Shovell> BenHur: looking now
[10:13] <AlanBell> callaghan: probably, but I can't tell right now, running unity2d in a VM and F10 doesn't get captured by the VM because unity3d in the host gets it!
[10:14] <omlx> hi everybody, how can I share my 3g connection to my phone?
[10:15] <AlanBell> omlx: can you clarify the direction you want to share it, and what phone?
[10:15] <Shovell> BenHur:  i have tried the link provided before with no sucess
[10:16] <AlanBell> Shovell: perhaps you could clarify where you exactly you got stuck
[10:16] <omlx> AlanBell: I have usb dongle to connect to internet. Now I want using internet into my android phone.
[10:16] <aum___> Hello everyone, how to login as root automatically and graphically...
[10:17] <BenHur> Shovell, hm... i don't think i can help you further then.
[10:17] <AlanBell> aum___: that is not a good idea, sorry
[10:17] <AlanBell> omlx: probably by installing the android SDK, but it is more of an android question in that direction
[10:18] <Shovell> i believe it is not the correct driver ibelieve have a realtek 8176
[10:18] <aum___> AlanBell, i know but in kiosk system no one is there to start the application manually...
[10:18] <omlx> AlanBell: is there any thing like hotspot for 3g connections?
[10:18] <oCean> aum___: we don't support enabling the root account
[10:18] <AlanBell> omlx: or, create a new wireless connection
[10:19] <AlanBell> aum___: don't run the application as root (even more so as a kiosk)
[10:19] <Shovell> AlanBell: i believe it is not the correct driver i believe have a realtek 8176	
[10:20] <aum___> oCean,  i am a software developer and in the technical specification i have to login as root
[10:20] <oCean> aum___: maybe so, but in this channel we cannot support that
[10:20] <AlanBell> aum___: what does it do that you think needs root access?
[10:21] <omlx> AlanBell: I did but it not appear in the phone.
[10:22] <slobro> my problem with not getting any ip works now without problems with wicd
[10:22] <aum___> AlanBell, i have some external drivers and their default headers are default to root...
[10:23] <slobro> ikonia: sorry for the delay, but I just found out that gnome-network-manager doesnt show up in the taskbar anymore.
[10:23] <AlanBell> Shovell: bug 795770
[10:24] <Fudge> anyone using oneiric watch media over a network and get d/c'd often?
[10:24] <ikonia> slobro: very interesting
[10:24] <AlanBell> aum___: I think you need to fix that if you want it to run on Ubuntu. There is no way it is a good idea to run a kiosk application as root
[10:24] <geirha> aum___: Use a regular user and configure sudo to allow that user to run the app as root
[10:24] <slobro> Ive been using openbox for a long while, logging into gnome now and then
[10:25] <ikonia> slobro: ok, well lets do a test, are you free now ?
[10:25] <slobro> yes
[10:25] <ikonia> slobro: ok, can you open a terminal and do "sudo dhclient eth0"
[10:26] <Shovell> AlanBell: i guess i dont quite understand
[10:26] <slobro> ikonia: it says: eth0 ERROR while getting interface flags: no such device
[10:26] <slobro> 2 times
[10:26] <ikonia> slobro: can you do "sudo ifconfig eth0"
[10:26] <slobro> I just restarted my computer
[10:27] <slobro> yeah sec
[10:27] <Fudge> slobro  you did use sudo as well?
[10:27] <slobro> it doesnt give me any IP addresses, only mac address and some other info.
[10:27] <slobro> yes
[10:28] <AlanBell> Shovell: comment 13 looked quite promising
[10:28] <slobro> oh sorry, i didnt notice this: after sudo dhclient eth0, it said also: SIOCSIFADDR: no such device
[10:28] <Fudge> slobro  if the output  for eth0 shows other info but no ip sudo dhclient eth0 should work
[10:28] <ikonia> slobro: try again then "sudo dhclient eth0"
[10:28] <Fudge> ikonia  would dhclient try to bring it up if it was down?
[10:29] <ikonia> Fudge: who said it's down ?
[10:29] <slobro> ikonia: now it didnt say anything. waited for a while, and stopped.
[10:29] <Fudge> ikonia  just a thought, i dont believe anyone said it was'
[10:29] <ikonia> slobro: now run sudo ifconfig
[10:29] <ikonia> Fudge: ahh, it is possible
[10:29] <slobro> !
[10:30] <slobro> IP addresses showd up
[10:30] <ikonia> Fudge: sorry, I thought I'd missed part of the info
[10:30] <ikonia> slobro: ok, so the issue is the card is not getting an address
[10:30] <aum___> AlanBell, Please understand i want only "root" to login automatically no other user (its in the specification) i know some way to auto login graphycally ie. through "mingetty" and then "startx" now tell me is this is the only way...
[10:30] <bhaskar> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhi
[10:30] <slobro> and i can access the internet now
[10:30] <ikonia> slobro: the most probably reason for this is because you no longer have network-manager on your desktop configuring the card
[10:30] <slobro> okay
[10:31] <AlanBell> aum___: sorry, the specification is wrong, if you want to use Ubuntu as the platform
[10:31] <Myrtti> aum___: that is so against every security principle the Ubuntu developers have decided to go with that it it boggles mind and draws all light from the universe
[10:32] <Fudge> ikonia  np mate
[10:32] <deej1976> aum___: Who wrote this specification, what software are you trying to use?
[10:33] <Fudge> slobro  perhaps check, dpkg -l | grep network-manager
[10:34] <slobro> Fudge: weird, "grep: command not found o.O
[10:34] <Fudge> aum___  you're wanting a desktop manager to allow root to login?
[10:35] <slobro> and it Is installed
[10:35] <ikonia> slobro: echo $PATH
[10:35] <Fudge> perhaps youre on a UK keyboard layout, did you use the pipe | not "
[10:36] <Shovell>  AlanBell i tried to download but no luck
[10:36] <slobro> finnish keyboard, grep works by itself, echo $PATH gives /usr/local/sbin:usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin/usr/bin/:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[10:37] <pisskidney> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04, which Java Sdk would you recommend for installation if I'm interested in ease of installation / use?
[10:37] <slobro> how did my ubuntu get to messed up..
[10:37] <Fudge> slobro  not a good idea to ask :p
[10:37] <AlanBell> Shovell: you might be better off getting a cheap USB wifi dongle and waiting for that thing you have to be supported in a later release of the kernel
[10:37] <Shovell> AlanBell: nvm
[10:38] <deej1976> pisskidney: openjdk-6-jdk
[10:38] <slobro> hah.. c:
[10:38] <Shovell> got it going
[10:38] <pisskidney> deej1976: thanks
[10:38] <CaptAnon> HI omlx
[10:38] <Tony1> Moin :)
[10:38] <CaptAnon> what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:41] <CaptAnon> omlx is your computer connected through a usb dongle
[10:41] <Northwoods> how do i install unity 3D ?
[10:42] <popey> Northwoods: its installed by default in 11.04 and 11.10.
[10:42] <slobro> Okay, now everything works; I found out that gnome-network-manager and network-manager wasnt installed, which was weird because i didnt remove them. I installed them again, restarted the computer and now it works automatically.
[10:43] <slobro> thank you all very much for your help. :)
[10:43] <sajjad> 10
[10:44] <ikonia> slobro: well done
[10:45] <kltrg> Hi. I've got a webserver problem on my Ubuntu 11.04 server edition. If I point my webbrowser to a certain directory, I get a 403 error. I have to type http://foo/dir/index.php. Then, it works. How come? Why doesn't the webserver automatically redirect the browser to the index.php file?
[10:46] <ikonia> kltrg: probably not got options "indexes" enabled on that directory
[10:46] <kltrg> ikonia, How do I change that?
[10:46] <unannounced> connected to the internet using p-t-p(modem) on my desktop.want to bridge the connection with the lan so that my ap picks from it.
[10:46] <ikonia> kltrg: apache config, look up, Option Indexes
[10:49] <kltrg> ikonia, Sorry, but I don't get it
[10:50] <Timmmm> Hi. I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 and Windows 7 on separate drives. I'm trying to dual-boot, but I can't even get the grub menu to show up! I changed the timeout to 10, but all I see is a single number counting down from 10 on a dark purple background.
[10:50] <ikonia> kltrg: there is an options directive called "Indexes" under <Directory>
[10:51] <ikonia> kltrg: so, <Directory /usr/share/docs /n option indexes /n </directory>
[10:51] <ikonia> kltrg: for example
[10:51] <Timmmm> It feels like the ubuntu splash screen is messing things up, so I tried removing "quiet splash" from the boot options (although now that I think about it, it shouldn't even get that far), and then it wouldn't even start X!
[10:51] <fff> hy
[10:51] <Timmmm> There must be a way to get to the grub menu...
[10:52] <aum___> AlanBell, ok tell me how to run a program without entering a sudo password
[10:53] <sanjeev90an> how to start system from initramfs?
[10:53] <Shovell> AlanBell: i have results it did not work
[10:53] <Shovell> alanbell:  can i send you term output
[10:54] <deej1976> !pastebin : Shovell
[10:54] <aika>  hey
[10:54] <deej1976> !pastebin | Shovell
[10:54] <oCean> aum___: use the sudo configuration  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Remove_Password_Prompt_For_sudo
[10:54] <sanjeev90an> how to start system from initramfs?
[10:55] <deej1976> !patience | sanjeev90an
[10:55] <AlanBell> aum___: tell me why it needs root access?
[10:56] <aum___> oCean, thank you...
[10:56] <kltrg> ikonia, I added the line 'Options +Indexes' in the <Directory /usr/share/myfolder/> section in the /etc/apache2/conf.d/myfolder.conf but the 403 error is still there.
[10:56] <oCean> kltrg: did you restart/reload apache?
[10:56] <Shovell> AlanBell:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/756928/
[10:57] <kltrg> oCean, No, I'll do that.
[10:57] <unannounced> ikonia: any help?
[10:57] <ikonia> unannounced: what ?
[10:57] <oCean> kltrg: if that does not work, see /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dir.conf, that's where the various index.* files are specified
[10:58] <aum___> AlanBell, i told you earlier proprietary driver and the database both needs root privilege
[10:58] <histo> Shovell: you need firmware for some of those realtek cards
[10:58] <is_null> thanks deej1976 !!!!
[10:58] <is_null> it's my lucky day after all xD
[10:58] <AlanBell> aum___: so the driver makes something in /dev appear?
[10:58] <Shovell> histo: it is internal
[10:59] <ernesto__> hi! i've got a server on ubuntu karmic 9.10 and cannot launch "apt-get update" anymore
[10:59] <AlanBell> databases don't need root access
[10:59] <aum___> AlanBell , yes
[10:59] <deej1976> is_null: Was sure if you sure my reply here, so posted as well :D
[10:59] <ikonia> ernesto__: the OS is end of life, so the repos have been removed and put on the archive server
[10:59] <AlanBell> aum___: right, so you need to set it so that that device node can be used by the kiosk user
[10:59] <ikonia> ernesto__: http://oldreleases.ubuntu.cpom
[10:59] <ikonia> com
[10:59] <Shovell> histo i guess i dont understand
[11:00] <deej1976> !eol | ernesto__
[11:00] <unannounced> need help on bridging. i pick internet using p-t-p on my desktop and want to connect my wan port to the lan of the desktop so that other pdas pick from the ap.
[11:00] <unannounced> wan port of the ap
[11:00] <is_null> deej1976: i just accepted the answer there ;)
[11:01] <ernesto__> ubottu: i know it is an old release but won't there be any optional sources list for me to keep on installing certain packages?
[11:01] <unannounced> running natty
[11:01] <histo> Shovell: is this a wireless card or wired?
[11:01] <usalabs> hi all, I have a problem,,, how do I assign separate VNC IP addresses to each vm guest in kvm?,,, they always seem to default to localhost (127.0.0.1)
[11:01] <deej1976> !old | ernesto__
[11:01] <aum___> AlanBell, there are lots of other module i cannot check every thing ...
[11:02] <Shovell> histo: wireless onboard a toshiba satellite
[11:02] <unannounced> got me @ ikonia?
[11:03] <ikonia> unannounced: sorry, I'm not paying attention to what you are saying, you just keep hilighting me
[11:03] <Timmmm> Ah this is fucking annoying. How can the default be that you can't access the grub menu?!
[11:03] <oCean> Timmmm: control your language here, please
[11:03] <unannounced> read back please
[11:03] <unannounced> would appreciate
[11:04] <rich3> if i have a drop-down menu in ms-windows, the next click outside the menu actuallly does something.  in LXDE, it doesn't do anything.  so i open a menu, then change my mind, and something eats my next click as i click outside the menu.  is it possible to change this to like ms-windows?
[11:04] <AlanBell> aum___: if you are doing a kiosk project you should be aiming for a locked down machine, with a minimal set of permissions for the user the app runs as
[11:04] <Myrtti> Timmmm: you've tried shift-key?
[11:04] <Timmmm> Myrtti: Yep. I basically get a single digit count-down, that only updates when I press a key. I think the menu is there, I just can't see it.
[11:05] <AlanBell> Timmmm: hold shift from power on (it is one of the few keys the BIOS doesn't complain about being held down)
[11:05] <Timmmm> AlanBell: I did.
[11:05] <andi2342346> how can i change the system language of ubuntu on commandline (no desktop) ?
[11:06] <Sidewinder1> !rootirc | Guest 59163
[11:06] <ikonia> Timmmm: what are you trying to do ?
[11:06] <anony8> Anyone knows where can i get free proxy for the IRC?
[11:06] <usalabs> how do I use remote VNC to access various VM guests running under a KVM? if each guest display VNC is allocated only the localhost (127.0.0.1) IP?, which to me means that I can only access them from the same machine the KVM is running on.
[11:06] <Timmmm> ìkonia: Get into the grub menu.
[11:07] <ikonia> Timmmm: to do what ?
[11:07] <AlanBell> Timmmm: there is no countdown, holding shift gets you to grub.
[11:07] <Timmmm> ikonia: Dual boot windows.
[11:07] <ikonia> Timmmm: is the dual boot setup ?
[11:07] <Timmmm> AlanBell: Ah, in that case I guess it isn't detecting my key presses for some reason...
[11:07] <Timmmm> ikonia: Not yet.
[11:07] <ikonia> Timmmm: can you boot ubuntu ?
[11:08] <kes> good morning. I'm having a problem with Upstart, when I try to launch my daemon through upstart it gets killed pretty much instantly. however when I execute the script through terminal the daemon launches fine. see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11503571 for more detail
[11:08] <Timmmm> ikonia: Yep. It does that itself after the timeout.
[11:08] <AlanBell> anony8: this isn't the right channel to ask that question
[11:08] <ikonia> Timmmm: as a work around, have you considered putting a menu option and along time out in the grub config, from within ubuntu
[11:08] <kltrg> My apache2 behaves strangely. When I stop it using /etc/init.d/apache2 stop, it is still reacable. Does it restart automatically?
[11:08] <Timmmm> AlanBell: I should also say  I added the timeout....
[11:09] <Timmmm> ikonia: Yeah I added a timeout, but it doesn't display the menu...
[11:09] <ikonia> Timmmm: remove the hidenmenu option
[11:09] <Timmmm> ikonia: I wanted to add the boot option from the menu since it is a bit easier to find out which hd(x,y) to use there... And update-grub doesn't detect my windows install.
[11:09] <ikonia> Timmmm: (hiddenmenu, or hidemenu, can't remember what it's called)
[11:09] <unannounced> well thanks for ignoring me ikonia
[11:10] <ikonia> unannounced: what ?
[11:10] <Timmmm> ikonia: Hmm, I can't find that... where is it?
[11:10] <unannounced> should i repeat myself?
[11:10] <ikonia> Timmmm: let me see if I have a machine with grub2 on to find the setting
[11:10] <Timmmm> ikonia: Thanks!
[11:11] <Timmmm> ikonia:  Did you mean GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET? I already set that to false.. :-/
[11:11] <ikonia> that maybe it
[11:11] <ikonia> it used to be called hiddenmenu or hidemenu in grub1 - trying to find the same grub2 option
[11:12] <Timmmm> ikonia: What I can't work out is why the screen is purple before it even gets to the linux boot... Must be something ubuntu have changed to make the boot process seem more seamless.
[11:12] <unannounced> any staff in here to help?
[11:12] <ikonia> Timmmm: it's possibly an incorrect setting on your videocard mode
[11:13] <FreeWilly> hey ubuntu community peepz, can anyone suggest a irc chat room for networking issues?
[11:13] <kltrg> oCean, index.php is listed in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dir.conf. I still get the 403 error
[11:13] <ikonia> Timmmm: just to be clear you've tried holding down the shift key during boot?
[11:13] <unannounced> i thought so FreeWilly
[11:13] <Timmmm> ikonia: Yeah seems like something like that. I might try the GRUB_TERMINAL=console option, although it says it only works for grub-pc. Not sure about that.
[11:13] <ikonia> FreeWilly: ##networking
[11:13] <Timmmm> ikonia: YEah I have.
[11:13] <harsh343> I am trying to run titanium on ubuntu 11.10 but unable to run any idea ?
[11:13] <Timmmm> ikonia: I will try once more. brb.
[11:13] <ikonia> Timmmm: just double checking
[11:14] <harsh343> means unable to install android sdk
[11:14] <oCean> kltrg: and you're sure you have something like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/756943/ with "Indexes" specified in your vhost file?
[11:14] <D0minat0r> Creative Optia AF and ubuntu 11.10 not working anyone have any ideas why? or has had similar problems?
[11:15] <FreeWilly> ikonia: thanks
[11:15] <D0minat0r> creative webcam that is...
[11:15] <kltrg> oCean, What is my vhost file? I didn't check a file with a such name
[11:15] <FreeWilly> unannounced: that was a bot'ish reply
[11:16] <AlanBell> unannounced: have you asked a question about Ubuntu?
[11:16] <ikonia> Timmmm: anything ?
[11:16] <Timmmm> ikonia: Aha! With the console option it not isn't purple, and says "Error: no video mode activated"
[11:16] <Timmmm> *now
[11:16] <oCean> kltrg: by default the webroot is located in /var/www, this is specified in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default configuration file (=vhost configuration) If you created a new location (say /var/mydir) then you have to create a new vhost file with the correct specifications
[11:16] <ikonia> Timmmm: ok, so there is a suggesting that your card may need some certain boot options to work
[11:17] <ikonia> Timmmm: FYI: researching I found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 quite a good source of info
[11:17] <Timmmm> ikonia: Yeah at least now I have something to google!
[11:17] <oCean> kltrg: actually you don't need another vhostfile, you can also add another <Directory> directive in the existing vhost file
[11:17] <airtonix> oCean: bad habits are bad
[11:17] <oCean> airtonix: well, yes
[11:19] <unannounced> AlanBell: i am running natty so i bet i am in the right channel
[11:20] <Sidewinder1> AlanBell, ^ unannounced said " need help on bridging. i pick internet using p-t-p on my desktop and want to connect my wan port to the lan of the desktop so that other pdas pick from the ap."
[11:20] <Timmmm> ikonia: I found a bug report with a workaround. Cheers!
[11:20] <ikonia> Timmmm: well done
[11:20] <`-`> grr
[11:22] <AlanBell> unannounced: OK, I didn't see the question (no question mark) and now I have, I don't understand the question. What is p-t-p, what is the wan port of the lan, what is a pda in this context?
[11:23] <AlanBell> unannounced: and what exactly is the question you want answered?
[11:23] <unannounced> desktop picks internet via point to point(modem). clear?
[11:23] <Sidewinder1> AlanBell, I'm guessing p-t-p means "Point to point tunneling protocol?
[11:23] <kltrg> oCean, I tried to add this but I'm not sure if restarting apache2 works properly since it's still there even if I stop it
[11:24] <kltrg> oCean, So perhaps, that's my issue
[11:24] <kes> would anyone like to confirm that I am unlikely to get any useful repsonse to my upstart problem at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11503571 , should just accept that it won't work and move on?
[11:24] <unannounced> so i want to bridge the ppp0 interface with my lan eth0 interface s
[11:25] <AlanBell> Sidewinder1: I was wondering if it was pptp or peer to peer. turns out neither, it is ppp
[11:25] <AlanBell> unannounced: so you want to share your internet connection with the local network
[11:25] <unannounced> connect the AP to the lan port so that other clients pick from the ap
[11:25] <Sidewinder1> AlanBell, You're not the only one that's somewhat confused. :-)
[11:26] <AlanBell> unannounced: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[11:27] <unannounced> Sidewinder1: are you confused by the question?
[11:28] <`-`> kes never give up
[11:28] <`-`> that's failure whispering to you - ignore it
[11:28] <AlanBell> unannounced: "how can I share my internet connection with other computers?" would have been a way to phrase the question to get a quicker answer
[11:29] <unannounced> i am sharing the connection with an AP not other computers
[11:29] <Sidewinder1> unannounced, I humbly apologize, but yes, I do not fully understand your question; not that i would have an answer even if I did.. :-(
[11:29] <unannounced> its a different scenario
[11:29] <kes> thanks mr facenick :-)
[11:30] <AlanBell> an AP being a wireless access point. Not very different, might need a crossover cable if it isn't autoswitching
[11:30] <`-`> kes your also expecting response too fast.. it may take a few days
[11:31] <`-`> so.. instead lets try something different.. how about you look for a guide on how to start a service based on an event
[11:31] <unannounced> well i apologize for not being straight forward but will look through the link
[11:31] <unannounced> thanks....
[11:32] <Sev7en> hey
[11:33] <kes> `-` I've tried doing that indeed. if I am not being specific about what I'm looking for there are only windows and bluetooth related hits. if I do get specific, google just spews my own forum posts back at me
[11:35] <kes> also, forums and places like that seem to get snowed under in questions, leaving mine for more than the first 4 hours doesn't seem to result in any more views
[11:35] <kes> I do not wish to bump indefinitely
[11:35] <Us3r_Unfriendly> has anyone tried using gnome terminal as a desktop environment?
[11:36] <AlanBell> Us3r_Unfriendly: err, gnome *terminal*?
[11:37] <Us3r_Unfriendly> AlanBell: well, i guess kinda
[11:37] <Us3r_Unfriendly> may i post a link to explane what i mean?
[11:37] <Sidewinder1> kes, as `_` said, sometimes it takes a couple of days for response in the forums and I'm sorry I can't answer your question.. :-(
[11:37] <`-`>  Us3r_Unfriendly sure
[11:37] <faiob1> hi, :-D there is peapol know what is tcp6? and how to disabel this ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/756950/
[11:38] <AlanBell> faiob1: that is the IPV6 support, it is normally harmless, why do you want to disable it?
[11:38] <AlanBell> !ipv6
[11:38] <harsh343> how to force the program stop in ubuntu
[11:39] <Us3r_Unfriendly> changing/modding ~/.bashrc ...this guy got his desktop to look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_W9nM6C7ow&hd=1
[11:39] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ...and I was wondering if anyone has tried it?
[11:39] <kes> then I shall practise meditation for now. thanks for the help people
[11:39] <faiob1> because in my computeur, i'have disabel ipv6 in my /etc/sysctl.conf and i'dont went use this ipv6
[11:40] <harsh343> deej1976, there ?
[11:40] <deej1976> harsh343: yes
[11:40] <`-`> kes
[11:40] <deej1976> harsh343: What program?
[11:40] <`-`> you may need to escape the device echo
[11:40] <harsh343> titanium studio
[11:41] <pietrubens> Hello
[11:41] <`-`> why the -option device ?
[11:41] <Us3r_Unfriendly> hi
[11:41] <AlanBell> Us3r_Unfriendly: funny! no I haven't tried that
[11:41] <`-`> ahahahaha
[11:41] <deej1976> harsh343: ps -ef | grep titanium
[11:41] <harsh343> deej1976, they show me only loging
[11:41] <pietrubens> HP: win7, has already 4 partions, want to install ubuntu 11 but it only shows options install over win7 or other
[11:41] <`-`> Us3r_Unfriendly - hilarious
[11:41] <szal> trollolol
[11:41] <harsh343> deej1976, volition  2284  2229  0 17:11 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto titanium
[11:42] <Us3r_Unfriendly> AlanBell: I thought it looked awesome...I was actually thinking that was one feature I would like to have permently
[11:42] <`-`> pietrubens - you have too many partitions
[11:42] <pietrubens> with other, it shows the partions, but how can i install ubuntu alongside win7?
[11:42] <AlanBell> Us3r_Unfriendly: go for it, it is your desktop
[11:42] <`-`> you should only have either 2 or 3 by default with 7
[11:42] <pietrubens> wel, my HP came with 4, and all are necessary :s
[11:42] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ...on a tablet
[11:42] <`-`> 2 if you installed it - 100MB and the main partition, and 3 if from an oem that gives you  a recovery partition
[11:42] <deej1976> harsh343: kill 2284
[11:42] <`-`> anyway pietrubens
[11:43] <`-`> !wubi
[11:43] <AlanBell> pietrubens: yes, this is a pain, and a known issue
[11:43] <harsh343> no such process deej1976
[11:43] <`-`> btw
[11:43] <`-`> harsh
[11:43] <deej1976> harsh343: sorry not that
[11:43] <harsh343> deej1976, ok
[11:43] <`-`> ps fauxwwe|grep something|grep -v grep
[11:43] <`-`> get used to it :)
[11:44] <pietrubens> so, i'm a newby, and really scared to create problems with my win7 during install, any easy suggestions?
[11:44] <lupigang> lupigang
[11:44] <AlanBell> pietrubens: wubi, or rather complicated procedure moving partitions elsewhere, resizing things and moving back into extended partitions.
[11:44] <`-`> pietrubens
[11:44] <`-`> that's why i say wubi
[11:44] <`-`> it runs fine, it can modify the windows bootloader, and it can uninstall
[11:44] <`-`> it can install in its own partition or a file on your windows partition
[11:44] <`-`> go
[11:44] <`-`> look
[11:44] <`-`> now!
[11:44] <`-`> :)
[11:44] <FloodBot1> `-`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:45] <pietrubens> wubi is the installer for ubuntu in win7, is that correct?
[11:45] <`-`> shush FloodBot1
[11:45] <`-`> pietrubens yes
[11:45] <`-`> bt Us3r_Unfriendly i wouldnt do that
[11:45] <kes> `-`: no dice on either using script/end script tags in myservice.conf or using exec myscript.sh
[11:45] <harsh343> deej1976, what i can do now they continuous boring me now i want to open new titanium studio
[11:45] <faiob1> ubottu: thank you
[11:45] <AlanBell> pietrubens: yes, it kind of runs as a windows application then looks like a dual boot
[11:45] <kes> I've changed the daemon launch command to output to /dev/null too
[11:46] <`-`> kes -- what i'm trying to get at is do you really need that device name?
[11:46] <`-`> can you use a friendly name instead?
[11:46] <kes> ah
[11:46] <pietrubens> hmmm... to understandcorrectly, I am then not actually installing a complete version, but a version that runs under win, or am i wrong?
[11:46] <deej1976> harsh343: ps -fu volition | pastebinit
[11:46] <`-`> heh
[11:46] <`-`> ps fauxww
[11:46] <lupigang> 五笔
[11:47] <saju_m> have any way to specify password in "su" command , like "su smith -p password" ?????
[11:47] <`-`> lupigang eh?
[11:47] <`-`> !chinese
[11:47] <faiob1> ubottu: ok also thank for the man or womane to creat this boot ;-)
[11:47] <kes> avoiding the whole 'grep mydevice' etcetera? or am I making the daemon not output the 'Display name: :0'?
[11:47] <harsh343> deej1976, http://pastebin.com/LV8WYmi6
[11:47] <speeedh> ok
[11:47] <`-`> well
[11:47] <redlegoreng> hi ! i'd just like to report a small problem. i was trying to install ubuntu from a flashdrive on my macbook pro, and followed exactly the instructions at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download ... however, the flashdrive does not seem to be bootable (does not appear on boot drive selection at startup)
[11:48] <`-`> can you give an example of what your device should be normally now?
[11:48] <deej1976> harsh343: kill 1894 2298
[11:48] <`-`> what does the grep actually output?
[11:48] <szal> redlegoreng: what version?
[11:48] <saju_m> i want to avoid  password prompt
[11:48] <redlegoreng> the last (11.10 32 bits)
[11:48] <harsh343> deej1976, kill: No such process
[11:49] <szal> saju_m: you don't want to use su, you want to use sudo
[11:49] <kes> currently my device is /dev/input/event5
[11:49] <pietrubens> after installing wubi, i will have dual-boot and work with ubuntu the normal way?
[11:50] <deej1976> harsh343: try: kill 2313 1911
[11:50] <histo> saju_m: you can disable the password prompt for users in the sudo group by editing the sodoers file using visudo
[11:50] <harsh343> deej1976, now works
[11:50] <deej1976> These are the parent process of the two Titanium processes
[11:50] <histo> saju_m: I would caution against this
[11:50] <harsh343> thanks again for helping me
[11:51] <histo> saju_m: and to answer your original question no you can't specify the password in the command
[11:51] <histo> saju_m: if you are trying to run a command as root as part of a script there are other ways.
[11:53] <histo> saju_m: you could      echo password | sudo -S some_command
[11:53] <saju_m> histo: yes, i want that
[11:54] <saju_m> histo: how run a command as root as part of a script ??
[11:54] <dmtarmey> anyone able to help i installed cairo-doc and then i lost my wireless i un istalled unity and then i tried installing wifi radar and many other network managers but i still can get wireless only cable
[11:54] <aum___> how we can reset user account on reboot i mean ( wallpaper change, folder or file creation browser settings etc...)
[11:54] <histo> saju_m: Is this script going to be run at a scheduled time?
[11:55] <deej1976> !lockdown
[11:55] <dmtarmey> my wifi keep trying to find my ip address
[11:55] <`-`> !harden
[11:55] <`-`> wth
[11:55] <histo> !botabuse
[11:55] <`-`> it knows lockdown and not harden??
[11:56] <`-`> !spam | histo
[11:56] <`-`> lulz
[11:56] <histo> i'm merely pointing out that you shouldn't be querying the bot like that in channel
[11:56] <`-`> histo
[11:56] <`-`> and i'm pointing out your acting like a twat. please lay off
[11:57] <histo> !language
[11:57] <oCean> `-`: such comments are not acceptable here, stop it immediately
[11:57] <`-`> yes oCean
[11:57] <`-`> but i'd like to point out histo's response was the same action i was taking
[11:57] <`-`> also the bot is chan responsive
[11:57] <`-`> also i had pingd no flood bot
[11:57] <oCean> `-`: no, use /msg ubottu !bot
[11:58] <`-`> point being the word i used was a much better one than i wished.
[11:58] <`-`> and the bot can be used in chan so i will thx :)
[11:58] <AlanBell> histo: `-`: this channel is for asking questions about Ubuntu, and responding to them, can we stick to that please
[11:58] <histo> saju_m: Are you planning on scheduling your script to run at a certain time?
[11:58] <histo> AlanBell: I am
[11:58] <goudkov> hi guys, is there a difference in apt source lists for repositories between 32-bit and 64-bit systems?
[11:58] <`-`> yes
[11:58] <dr_willis> goudkov:  not that i have ever seen.
[11:58] <oCean> `-`: you don't understand. For private query of bot factoids use /msg ubottu !factoid. Only use in-channel if addressing someone else
[11:58] <histo> goudkov: just that one is 32bit packages and the other is 64 bit
[11:59] <`-`> oCean, please use the eyeballs and read up - i was ;)
[11:59] <histo> goudkov: sorry miss understood your question. No the sources.list is identical
[11:59] <goudkov> histo: right, but do they have different names?
[11:59] <goudkov> ok, ok
[11:59] <deej1976> aum___: Read up on :http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/ofris-deep-freeze-like-application-for.html
[11:59] <goudkov> how does it know which packages to pull?
[11:59] <goudkov> i was wondering about names specifically
[11:59] <goudkov> if "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-security main restricted" is for 32-bit
[11:59] <goudkov> then what's for 64?
[11:59] <`-`> the apt repo list?
[12:00] <histo> goudkov: architecture is defined in several places
[12:00] <`-`> that's the same for the most part
[12:00] <harsh343> deej1976, again same thing happens
[12:00] <histo> goudkov: but not in the sources.list
[12:00] <goudkov> histo: ok, thanks.
[12:00] <harsh343> deej1976, output volition  2098  1988  0 17:30 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto titanium
[12:00] <harsh343>  of ps -ef | grep titanium
[12:01] <seb___> bash question: I want to list the files in a directory. The ls command lists directories as well and I can't find a way around it. Any suggestions? Ty
[12:01] <goudkov> histo: would you know where is should look for such differences?
[12:01] <deej1976> ps -ef | grep Titanium
[12:01] <histo> saju_m: if you want to schedule the script you can just add it to root's cron. sudo crontab -e   then you don't need to worry about a password
[12:01] <goudkov> is -> I
[12:01] <`-`> seb___ investigate find
[12:01] <dr_willis> seb___:  find command is very flexiable
[12:01] <`-`> :)
[12:01] <AlanBell> goudkov: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/b/bcmwl/ one will pick the i386 the other amd64 version from the same pool
[12:01] <harsh343> deej1976, http://pastebin.com/r9CEek8V
[12:02] <histo> goudkov: uname -a     cat /etc/issue
[12:02] <seb___> I'll investigate find, ty
[12:02] <saju_m> histo: i want to add an interface "eth0" using script, but that need root prvilege ..
[12:02] <deej1976> harsh343: kill 1757
[12:02] <seriously> saju_m: its not possible
[12:02] <histo> saju_m: then I would echo password | sudo -S some command blah blah
[12:02] <dr_willis> im not sure sudo  can work that way...
[12:02] <saju_m> ok
[12:03] <histo> dr_willis: sure it can
[12:03] <harsh343> deej1976, yes works thanks
[12:03] <goudkov> ok, thanks
[12:03] <histo> saju_m: I strongly recomend putting the root password in a script though
[12:03] <histo> dr_willis: that's the point of the -S option
[12:03] <`-`> wth
[12:03] <dr_willis> ive seen people fight with scripting the password into  sudo in the past.. its definatly a security hole.. wonder what the output of ps ax would show in such a case.
[12:03] <`-`> histo why would you say that
[12:03] <saju_m> ok
[12:03] <`-`> saju_m?
[12:04] <goudkov> would it be possible to use debootstrap running on a 32-bit system to install 64-bit distro and move everything to root? i did it with 32 on 32, but never 64 on 32.
[12:04] <aum___> deej1976, thanks
[12:04] <seriously> goudkov: no
[12:04] <andyn> saju_m: you can allow sudo to run certain commands without password
[12:04] <goudkov> seriously: i'm not talking about running it in chroot. but about installing the system on another partition. not possible?
[12:04] <deej1976> aum___: also Gofris
[12:05] <deej1976> aum___: no 11.10 option
[12:05] <dr_willis> goudkov:  i think you may run into issues.. since debootstrap basically does a chroot if i recall.
[12:05] <`-`> deej1976 btw - if your going to bother to kill a process kill -9 it
[12:05] <histo> '-' I can't type your name due to a binding issue here. Why would I say what?
[12:06] <deej1976>  `-`: to harsh, -9 next option
[12:06] <dr_willis> Hmm.. -9 should not be  the kill option of first choice...
[12:06] <goudkov> dr_willis: does it have a "-foreign" option? wouldn't that work?
[12:06] <`-`> put root pass in a script..
[12:06] <dr_willis> goudkov:  been years since i last tried debootstraping..
[12:06] <andyn> hah, -KILL should be the last option
[12:06] <histo> dr_willis: -S will accept password from stdin so i'm not sure
[12:06] <`-`> dr_willis i disagree
[12:06] <`-`> if your going to kill it kill it
[12:06] <`-`> if its not worth doing right, do something else
[12:07] <`-`> like, there's top
[12:07] <dr_willis> histo:  yea. password needs to end in a newline. :) still  not a good idea.
[12:07] <andyn> alwaya try HUP and/or TERM first
[12:07] <`-`> >.>
[12:07] <vjacob> hi. my gnome menu suddenly stopped working since yesterday evening. basically it does not respond to clicks with the built-in pointing device. any ideas how to troubleshoot this?
[12:07] <dr_willis> `-`:  rather silly  i belive.. theres a reason -9 is not the default.
[12:07] <goudkov> dr_willis: my other option it to use pivot_root on a running box. and i don't want to do that.
[12:07] <seriously> vjacob: dont use gnome
[12:07] <dr_willis> goudkov:  never done that. :)
[12:07] <histo> dr_willis: nope. then he has to worry about the access to the script. No admin would like the way he wanted to do it.
[12:07] <`-`> !kill
[12:08] <dr_willis> histo:  yep. sudoers is most likely the 'proper' way to do it i guess..
[12:08] <`-`> wow, that's a big surprise on the output for that input
[12:08] <histo> dr_willis: I would just execute the script as root or with sudo would make more sense
[12:08] <goudkov> is there any reason to use cdebootstrap instead of debootstrap?
[12:08] <histo> You can make suggestions to the bot if you want to chang eit
[12:08] <BluesKaj> hi all
[12:09] <`-`> the point of sudo is that root doesnt have to HAVE a password anymore
[12:09] <histo> dr_willis: sudo somescript.foo
[12:09] <`-`> this makes your system more secure from a cracking kiddy due to not being able to auth
[12:09] <`-`> once you set that pass.. it goes downhill fast
[12:09] <`-`> sudo is good.. trust the sudo.. remove the 15minute cache from your sudo..
[12:10] <`-`> and in gtk us gksu :)
[12:10] <Sev7en> hellow
[12:10] <`-`> herrow Sev7en :)
[12:10] <seb___> I'm trying to list all files ina directory. This "find . -maxdepth 1 -type f > test.txt" does what I want but puts a "./" before the filename. How can I remove the "./"? ty
[12:10] <`-`> ok
[12:10] <`-`> seb
[12:10] <`-`> find -type file /path/to/dir > output.file
[12:10] <`-`> ah
[12:10] <seriously> `-`: sudo is bad
[12:11] <`-`> find -type file /path/to/dir |cut 2- > output.file
[12:11] <`-`> i think 2- outputs char 3 and on but you may need to cut 3-
[12:11] <aum___> deej1976, ok thanks.
[12:11] <andyn> you could use cut -d/ -c1
[12:11] <vjacob> the version of gnome I am using is 2.30
[12:11] <andyn> ah
[12:12] <histo> seriously: how's that?
[12:12] <`-`> ah delimiter - andyn is right
[12:15] <seriously> let introduce me, my name is mohammed. I have ms certified for 10 years long you call me liar?
[12:15] <ikonia> ?
[12:15] <oCean> seriously: ?
[12:16] <dr_willis> 'vague statements are vague'
[12:16] <`-`> seriously youve been certified for 10 yrs on ubuntu? impressive!
[12:16] <dr_willis> but back to support...
[12:16] <`-`> especially since its not that old..
[12:16] <dr_willis> he said ms cert... but back to support..
[12:16] <seriously> i dont lie
[12:16] <`-`> i know..i couldnt help it.. sorry seriously ;)
[12:17] <llutz> a troll is a troll is a troll
[12:17] <dr_willis> and 2 trolls...
[12:17] <`-`> and yet.. whats your issues seriously? seriously!
[12:17] <seriously> what is issue
[12:17] <`-`> yours?
[12:18] <`-`> do you have problem right now?
[12:18] <randy2009> Hi, can i use public key autorisation with the user root? I have 2 servers, i did 'ssh-keygen' on server 1 and copied it into the autorizedkey of an specific user on server 2. When i try to connect 'ssh userx@192.1.1.2' i have to fill in an password
[12:18] <`-`> windows certs teach you to think reboot is health.. linux certs teach you reboot is depreciated mostly :)
[12:18] <`-`> randy2009
[12:18] <oCean> `-`: ok, please drop the discussion
[12:18] <_jason> randy2009: you can if you want to
[12:18] <seriously> i would make a lamb stew out of linux
[12:18] <Sev7en> s
[12:18] <ikonia> enough now
[12:18] <`-`> oCean does seriously need some help or not
[12:19] <oCean> `-`: don't continue. Last warning
[12:19] <randy2009> how can i find out what the problem is?
[12:20] <_jason> randy2009: I don't understand why you asked a question about root and then described some situation not involving root
[12:20] <llutz> randy2009: you shouldn't use ssh logins as root at all (PermitRootLogin forced-commands-only or no). ssh -vvv  to get more details
[12:20] <seb___> got there in the end: find . -maxdepth 1 -type f |cut -c 3-
[12:20] <randy2009> jason, the user on server 1 is root
[12:20] <`-`> Ocean; perhaps you are having trouble comprehending my plain english so lets try a little harder. I am asking if the user seriously needs help with something. this channel is a help channel and i'd appreciate it if you'd quit trolling me. ive stated a few things jokingly and then went back to being serious. you sir, apparently cannot do plain english, so please pm me and explain verbosely
[12:20] <`-`> exactly what your issue is. then i will try to help.
[12:20] <randy2009> i thought this could be problematic
[12:20] <`-`> randy2009
[12:21] <_jason> randy2009: what are you doing that requires you to ssh as the root user?
[12:21] <`-`> you can definately make any user use ssh key to login bypassing the password prompt - please see my earlier comment
[12:21] <randy2009> not verry nessasery
[12:21] <randy2009> backup/rsync
[12:21] <seriously> `-`: do not insult
[12:21] <`-`> seb___ ah it was cut 3- - noted :)
[12:21] <_jason> randy2009: if root is not necessary, do not use root :)
[12:22] <`-`> seriously i am not insulting. there was a joke in there. and i thought you were saying you were ubuntu certified for 10 yrs -- i missed the ms; i will call anyone if i think they are really lying.
[12:22] <`-`> i do not apologize but i was not insulting. the seriously seriously is fun to say out loud. also not as fun to type.
[12:22] <randy2009> debug3: Could not load "/root/.ssh/id_rsa" as a RSA1 public key, ???? id_rsa is the private key
[12:22] <`-`> please consider a humor plugin.
[12:23] <seriously> `-`: not funny
[12:23] <llutz> randy2009: you can use rsync as root with passphrase-less key, just use "PermitRootLogin forced-commands-only" in sshd_config
[12:23] <randy2009> where is the sshd config in ubuntu?
[12:23] <`-`> /etc/ssh/
[12:23] <llutz> randy2009: /etc/ssh
[12:23] <dr_willis>  randy2009  /etc/ssh/   last i looked
[12:23] <_jason> randy2009: /etc/ssh/sshd_config, why?
[12:24] <randy2009> go ti
[12:24] <seriously> randy2009: C:\Windows\System32
[12:24] <randy2009> lol
[12:24] <`-`> seriously seriously?
[12:24] <Myrtti> seriously: please be helpful when helping
[12:24] <`-`> i thought it was c:\$USER\%appdata%\.ssh\something
[12:24] <seriously> no
[12:24] <seriously> you wrong
[12:24] <`-`> cygwin?
[12:24] <dancek> `-`, please stop flooding non-help
[12:25] <`-`> dancek we're on topic.
[12:26] <llutz> randy2009: this is an example how to do that http://troy.jdmz.net/rsync/index.html
[12:27] <randy2009> failing also as non root user
[12:27] <randy2009> debug3: Incorrect RSA1 identifier
[12:27] <randy2009> debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-----BEGIN'
[12:27] <randy2009> debug3: key_read: missing keytype
[12:28] <conntrack> opps, "stay on target.."
[12:28] <deej1976> !pastebin | randy2009:
[12:28] <llutz> randy2009: how did you create those keys? seeem to be gpg not ssh-format
[12:28] <randy2009> ssh-keygen
[12:29] <llutz> randy2009: does it start with "-----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY ..."
[12:30] <andyn> afaik you can export them in so called ascii armored format
[12:30] <andyn> there is a command line flag for that
[12:30] <aum___> how to install gnome through apt-get not the ubuntu-desktop ...
[12:30] <andyn> they look like pgp keys
[12:31] <morning> Am trying to install Thinkfan, following directions online. Am asked to issue the command "thinkpad_acpi configure." But this returns "command not found." What to do?
[12:31] <deej1976> !notunity | aum___:
[12:31] <deej1976> aum___: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell gnome-tweak-tool
[12:32] <randy2009> llutz, yes
[12:32] <`-`> wow, i see the ops are still nazis.
[12:33] <randy2009> http://paste.ubuntu.com/756983/
[12:34] <prophead> whois -
[12:34] <randy2009> http://paste.ubuntu.com/756987/
[12:35] <aum___> deej1976, i think gnome-shell is not in ubuntu 10.04
[12:35] <randy2009> ah, i know i think
[12:35] <randy2009> something with hostname? see latest pastebin
[12:35] <deej1976> aum___: Nope, and gnome should be install by default on desktop. Is this a server?
[12:36] <aum___> deej1976, no, i installed command line system through alternate cd
[12:37] <dr_willis> it pays to state  Your ubuntu version :)
[12:37] <dr_willis> for 10.04 it would be just 'gnome' wouldent it?
[12:38] <dr_willis> easier way would be to install ubuntu-desktop and just select gnome at the login screen.
[12:38] <deej1976> aum___: ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package if you look at the contents it will list the packages
[12:39] <aum___> deej1976, i know but it installs many other applications which i do not want
[12:40] <aum___> and in the login screen its not showing gnome session
[12:41] <deej1976> aum___: I said look at the package not install it, it will list all the packages that make ubuntu-desktop including the gnome related packages
[12:42] <deej1976> aum___: e.g. gnome-session
[12:43] <aum___> deej1976, do you know how to create an icon in a panel of icewm?
[12:43] <deej1976> aum___: Nope never used icewm
[12:44] <Sidewinder1> aum___, If it's somewhere in your menus, right click on it and "add to panel"?
[12:45] <aum___> Sidewinder1, i didn't find "add to panel" like thing in icewm ...
[12:45] <Sidewinder1> aum___, Sorry, it was just a thought..
[12:45] <dr_willis> icewm has config files yoyu edit for that aum___
[12:46] <dr_willis> aum___:  icewm used to have some gui config tools.. but i dont think they have beenupdated in ages.
[12:46] <svSinner> где я ? Х_х
[12:47] <aum___> dr_willis, thanks, i am in search of it from last 2 days...
[12:47] <Sidewinder1> !ru | svSinner
[12:48] <svSinner> набрал
[12:48] <chambakka> how to ligin with ubuntu classic in 11.10
[12:48] <Sidewinder1> !nounity | chambakka
[12:49] <dr_willis> aum___:  the icewm homepage/docs should mention the config files. ive not used icewm much in years. :)
[12:50] <almoxarife> in 11.10, what constitutes 'classic' , unity2d?
[12:50] <dr_willis>   aum___  /var/lib/doc-base/documents/icewm-faq
[12:50] <deej1976> !classic
[12:51] <almoxarife> !notunity
[12:51] <aum___> dr_willis, thanks.
[12:52] <kish> my ubuntu software center isn't laoding
[12:53] <kish> it just shows a grey window but nothing in it!
[12:53] <Gentoo64> kish: tried rebooting?
[12:53] <kish> never!
[12:53] <dr_willis> kish:  close it. try a sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade from terminal, then try it again.. from terminal if you want to see error messages
[12:53] <Sidewinder1> kish, Perhaps you currently have another package manager running?
[12:54] <kish> 34 days on a  laptop uptime
[12:54] <dr_willis> your lap must be tired.
[12:54] <kish> maybe
[12:54] <Gentoo64> ive never understood why people care about uptime
[12:54] <Gentoo64> lol
[12:55] <kish> because it takes 20 mintues for me to setup my desktop the way i like it
[12:55] <Gentoo64> you mean arranging windows? or you on livecd
[12:55] <kish> no i mean starting programs, running commands
[12:56] <RaTTuS|BIG> there are such thngs as startup scripts
[12:56] <kish> i don't know how to script
[12:56] <RaTTuS|BIG> nows as good as time as any ....
[12:57] <almoxarife> RaTTuS|BIG: startup scripts at the user level only require log out/in
[12:57] <insmod> kish: kill the pid
[12:58] <kish> there is this other thing
[12:59] <kish> i have spotify for linux running and i'm curious about some aspects of sound reproduction
[12:59] <Andy80> hi all
[12:59] <almoxarife> kish: software center really is bloated though, consider slimming down to synaptic
[12:59] <kish> i tried recording the sound in order to watch the spectrum in audacity
[12:59] <kish> but htat really doesn't work
[12:59] <Andy80> a little OT question: does anyone of you know how the 13'' Ubuntu sleeves is ok for a 12'' netbook?
[12:59] <kish> audacity doesn't want to record the sounds i'm hearing
[12:59] <kish> almoxarife, i use aptitude actually
  use ardour
[13:00] <Tony1> cu
[13:00] <kish> but i wanted software center this one time because it's easy to find decent programs
[13:00] <Tony1> cu
[13:00] <kish> ardour, thanks
[13:00] <kish> i will try that insmod
[13:01] <insmod> :)
[13:01] <goldenboy87> hello, please i need your help, suddenly i get "error: no such partition
[13:01] <goldenboy87> grub rescue>"
[13:02] <goldenboy87> how can it be, yesterday i used normally my ubuntu 11.10
[13:02] <goldenboy87> and today it's gone!
[13:02] <dr_willis> any usb thumb drives or other things plugged in goldenboy87 ?
[13:02] <goldenboy87> no, it was my first thought, but no :(
[13:03] <dr_willis> how many hard drives?
[13:03] <goldenboy87> i had also win7 installes
[13:03] <goldenboy87> 1 hdd, laptop
 does df -u list it?
[13:04] <goldenboy87> if i write ls, then i get only hd with msdos
[13:04] <insmod> df -h
[13:04] <goldenboy87> no, unknown command :(
[13:05] <dr_willis> hes in the grub prompt if it says    grub rescue >        i think...
[13:05] <goldenboy87> yes
[13:05] <dr_willis> so limited commands..
[13:05] <dr_willis> goldenboy87:  you have a live cd handy?
  use rescue or the live cd
[13:05] <pisskidney> Hi, I just installed openjdk 6. I can compile a foo.java file with "javac foo.java" but when I try to run the bytecode with "java foo", I get an "Could not find the main class: Foo. Program will exit" . Any ideas why?
[13:05] <goldenboy87> i tried to reinstall ubuntu and went til the place where i could chose the disk where to install and the partition with ubuntu was just gone!
[13:06] <goldenboy87> only one windows paritition and the swaps where there :(
[13:07] <goldenboy87> is rescue or live cd for free?
[13:07] <dr_willis> goldenboy87:  so this is now a new install that seems to have a failed grub
 how are you installing
[13:07] <dr_willis> The Ubuntu Installer  Desktop cd is a live cd...
[13:07] <Learner> hi, im trying to fint out the supported refresh rate on my monitor on 11.10. ?
[13:07] <faLUCE> how can I backup xorg configuration? I don't have xorg.conf
[13:07] <pisskidney> anyone?
[13:07] <goldenboy87> no, no new install
[13:07] <dr_willis> faLUCE:  if you have none.. then you dont need one. X auto configures
 you will fint it out soon!
[13:08] <goldenboy87> i wanted to see the disks, so i tried to reinstall
[13:08] <svSinner> омг... а чего все молчать?
[13:08] <goldenboy87> i think reinstall would work, but i had my ubuntu 11.10 nice configured :(
[13:08] <faLUCE> dr_willis: I need one for some special reasons. how can I obtain it?
[13:08] <AlanBell> !ru | svSinner
[13:08] <goldenboy87> i don't want to lose it :(
 ieufrhr jeue jwsuuew ?
[13:08] <pisskidney> Hi, I just installed openjdk 6. I can compile a foo.java file with "javac foo.java" but when I try to run the bytecode with "java foo", I get an "Could not find the main class: Foo. Program will exit" . Any ideas why?
[13:09] <dr_willis> faLUCE:  depends on yoru  video chipset/gfx card.
[13:09] <afeijo> how to delete files older than 30 days? I try find -atime +30 | ls -laht, but it returns all files
[13:09] <Learner> thast the problem,in ccsm its set at 50 htz but thats imposible, i remember it was 60hz or higher
[13:10] <AlanBell> pisskidney: sounds like a bug in your java, or possibly a case sensitivity issue, maybe ask in a java channel
[13:10] <faLUCE> dr_willis: I have a live cd. it boots properly. Now, I want to save the associiated xorg configuration. how can I do?
[13:10] <goldenboy87> so is everything lost now?
[13:10] <dr_willis> faLUCE:  mount your installed system.  look in its etc/X11/ directory
[13:10] <dr_willis> goldenboy87:  depends on how you did the install.
[13:10] <AlanBell> pisskidney: ##java is the channel on freenode that might help
[13:11] <RaTTuS|BIG> learner - have you LCD ? or CRT and where in the world are you
[13:11] <faLUCE> dr_willis: I don't have any conf file in /etx/X11
[13:11] <dr_willis> faLUCE:  not /etc/X11  the etc/X11 directiory on your installed system...
[13:11] <dr_willis> faLUCE:  /etc/X11 would be the X11 dir on your live cd...
[13:11] <Learner> LCD and Mexico, but bought it from the USnA
[13:11] <goldenboy87> dr_willis, i didn't install it, i did everything til the step, where to chose the disk
[13:11] <AlanBell> faLUCE: why do you think you need to back up your configuration?
[13:11] <llutz> faLUCE: stop X on liveCD, run "sudo Xorg -configure" and backup the created xorg.conf.new file
[13:12] <dr_willis> goldenboy87:  see what partitions and disks  'sudo fdisk -l' show from the live cd.
[13:12] <faLUCE> llutz: ok, that's a good tip. how can I stop X ?
[13:12] <RaTTuS|BIG> Learner then it should be 60Hz - 50 is UK
[13:12] <goldenboy87> ah, ok, thanks
[13:13] <llutz> faLUCE: service gdm stop
[13:13] <andyn> luckily many switching power supplies support a multitude of voltages
[13:13] <llutz> or is ith lighdm now? whatever dm is used, stop it faLUCE
[13:13] <BetArk> Hi! Can someone help me with a permission problem on the /var partition? I have separate it from the / root partition
[13:13] <BetArk> but I get no 755 errors and so on
[13:13] <goldenboy87> anyway i don't understand it, yesterday it was there and today not :(
[13:14] <BetArk> Now I read the following thing: for var directories 755, executables 755, files 644. The /tmp dir should be 1777. How did you move then anyway?
[13:14] <insmod> better if it was from Canada
[13:14] <andyn> my electric shaver accepts from 12 to 240 v
[13:14] <faLUCE> llutz: I understand. But should I do this op on another non graphic session? (alt+Fx) ?
[13:14] <BetArk> *giving by someone at the archlinux channel
[13:14] <llutz> faLUCE: sure
[13:14] <faLUCE> ok let's try
[13:15] <xangua> goldenboy87: as i understand, you installed windows yesterday over ubuntu partition
[13:15] <llutz> BetArk: mount new /var to lets say "/mnt/var" then "sudo rsync -aux /var /mnt/var"
[13:15] <LiNuX`sup> where are the wallpapers located in ubuntu 11.10?
[13:16] <xangua> goldenboy87: if that is not how happened, then please start to speak Clear
[13:16] <goldenboy87> dr_willis, i get only /dev/sdb1
[13:16] <BetArk> llutz: thanks, I'm booted right now, I read something about single mode?
[13:16] <llutz> BetArk: best to be done from livecd, not from running system
[13:16] <BetArk> do I need to chroot?
[13:16] <llutz> BetArk: no, just mount the partitions you need
[13:17] <BetArk> llutz: thanks, do I need to mount / also?
[13:17] <goldenboy87> xangua, no i had windows7, ubuntu 11.10 for a few month. Yesterday i used ubuntu last time, today i start my laptop and everything is gone
[13:17] <goldenboy87> with fdisk i get sda1-sda5
[13:18] <llutz> BetArk: i'd dolike : mount /dev/old-rootfs /media/old,  mount /dev/newvar /media/new, then "rsync -aux /media/old/var /media/new"
[13:18] <BetArk> llutz: can you explain what the command does? Sorry for the question.. new at linux
[13:18] <llutz> BetArk: just copying and preserving permissions
[13:19] <llutz> BetArk: "man rsync" for more info
[13:19] <goldenboy87> sda1: hidden ntfs (maybe windows recovery), sda2 and sda3: hpfs/ntfs/exFAT ; sda4: Extended; sda5: Linux swap
[13:19] <BetArk> llutz: Oke, I have  a clean installation, so I have doine this at install.. I said that there is a / root, and a /var on my HDD
[13:20] <BetArk> llutz: so this isn't afterwards..
[13:20] <dr_willis> goldenboy87:  you may want to pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' for the channel to see.  Was there anything on you rlinux install you wanted to recover?
[13:21] <BetArk> llutz: should I do a clean install and afterwards move the /var permission?
[13:21] <bagels> hey guys help! I have a netbook and after my update my touchpad doesn't work!
[13:21] <llutz> BetArk: sry busy. you could tell the installer to mount /var to a different partition i think. if reinstall is fine for your, why not.
[13:22] <BetArk> llutz: I don't want to do a clean install.. I have it installed, also defined in fstab, but I get the errors like not a 755 filesystem
[13:22] <BetArk> Do I need to remove /var from fstab?
[13:23] <goldenboy87> dr_willis: i would like to know how could it happen, that my ubuntu installation just gone
[13:23] <xangua> tried the function keys to enable/disable it BetArk
[13:23] <llutz> BetArk: if your old /var still exists
[13:23] <xangua> sorry, that was for bagels:  tried the function keys to enable/disable it ¿
[13:23] <BetArk> llutz: no, it is a clean install. So yeah cant delete it from fstab.. sorry.. :P..
[13:24] <llutz> BetArk: repairing broken ownerships/permissions isn't that easy, because not all files/dirs in /var/ are root:root 644/755
[13:25] <BetArk> llutz: yes, I think is better to do a clean install (again), and then move it to a diff partition?
[13:25] <BetArk> Could idea?
[13:25] <bagels> xangua I have a function key that disables the touchpad but that didn't do it
[13:25] <goldenboy87> that's the output http://pastebin.com/r19BcKEc
[13:26] <llutz> BetArk: would be a clean solution and maybe easier for you. backup your $home and changed configs from /etc before
[13:27] <ghufran> ok so i am here after getting frustrated for hours and searching on the internet.
[13:27] <randy2009> llutz, can you see something weird here?: http://paste.ubuntu.com/756987/
[13:27] <BetArk> llutz: thanks, could I use this http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/ for both the var and home partition?
[13:28] <llutz> BetArk: if you do a fresh install, you can tell the installer to do that. no need to move that later
[13:29] <llutz> randy2009: no
[13:29] <Sidewinder1> !ask | ghufran
[13:29] <BetArk> llutz: I have done that, but it says my permissions are not right and needs to be 755
[13:29] <_calum> hey all. Whats the name of programs which take ASM code from a DLL file and show the code?
[13:30] <goldenboy87> dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/r19BcKEc can you take a look please?
[13:30] <llutz> BetArk: was the partition holding /var now empty before?
[13:31] <BetArk> llutz: it was empty, clean format
[13:31] <llutz> BetArk: "ls -ld /var" says what?
[13:31] <almightydaemon> How do I install via ehdd?
[13:32] <AlanBell> almightydaemon: what is ehdd?
[13:32] <llutz> randy2009: backup your userx id_rsa, generate a new one using ssh-keygen. "ssh-copy-id userY@host" then and try again from userx: ssh userY@host
[13:32] <_calum> sorry, I should reword my question. Is it possible to bring up machine code of a dll file in Ubuntu?
[13:32] <randy2009> what is going wrong here?: http://paste.ubuntu.com/756983/ did ssh-keygen and ssh-copy-id user@ip, key is in autorized keys
[13:32] <BetArk> llutz: drwxr-xr-t 1 root root 96  2 dec 11:51 /var
[13:33] <almightydaemon> AlanBell: external hdd
[13:33] <randy2009> llutz, i did it 4 times now
[13:33] <llutz> BetArk: sudo chmod 755 /var
[13:33] <llutz> randy2009: everytime same error? reads like a broken id_rsa file
[13:33] <BetArk> llutz: I have done that, there is no more error, but I think the permissions are not right anymore :(
[13:33] <AlanBell> almightydaemon: treat it like a USB device (or just use a USB device)
[13:34] <llutz> BetArk: you set sticky bit on /var , why?
[13:34] <almightydaemon> AlanBell: I have
[13:34] <almightydaemon> AlanBell: I get grub loader prompt
[13:34] <almightydaemon> I tried to mess around but only command is ls... no help or anythign :(
[13:34] <randy2009> yep, same error
[13:35] <BetArk> llutz: I don't know? Only the chmod command, chmod 1755 /var
[13:35] <AlanBell> almightydaemon: ah, right grub is probably confused with partitions now you have removed the external drive
[13:35] <randy2009> does the public certificate login look @ the hostname?
[13:35] <bagels> Help! I tried enabling the touchpad through the terminal, with the fn keys, I can't get my touchpad mousee to work!
[13:35] <BetArk> llutz: chmod does it for all files and directories, right?
[13:35] <llutz> BetArk: sudo chmod 0755 /var        don't use 1755
[13:35] <almightydaemon> AlanBell: let me rephrase... I'm tryign to use ehdd as if it was simply the iso disk to install on internal hdd
[13:36] <_calum> does Ubuntu have an equivalent free program to IDA Pro?
[13:36] <AlanBell> almightydaemon: have you installed it and it now won't boot from the internal, or are you trying to boot from the external drive to start the install?
[13:37] <randy2009> how can i change hostname? In my bash i see my hostname = hg, but in the certificate my hostname = hg.xx.nl
[13:37] <almightydaemon> AlanBell: the latter
[13:37] <randy2009> certificate==public cert (ssh-keygen)
[13:37] <AlanBell> almightydaemon: ok, right, how did you create the image on the external drive? unetbootin or something?
[13:37] <llutz> randy2009: user@host in pub-key is ok, its just an info where the key comes from
[13:38] <almightydaemon> AlanBell: it's just the iso... copy pasted it
[13:38] <AlanBell> almightydaemon: ok, there is a bit more to it than that
[13:38] <almightydaemon> AlanBell: i noticed :)
[13:39] <llutz> randy2009: just use "ssh-keygen -t rsa"
[13:39] <AlanBell> !unetbootin | almightydaemon
[13:40] <AlanBell> almightydaemon: that should show you how to put the iso on a USB device, I *think* it will work with a USB hard drive but it is written for USB flash devices
[13:41] <dr_willis> pendrivelinux also has tools for putting an iso on a drive.
[13:41] <almightydaemon> Ic interesting
[13:41] <almightydaemon> thanks
[13:42] <cablop> question: does a swap on top of LVM has a lower performance than a swap on a primary partition?
[13:42] <dr_willis> cablop:  i wouldent think so.
[13:43] <dr_willis> cablop:  using swap at all.. is the biggest hit
[13:44] <Sidewinder1> almightydaemon, You also might find this helpful: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/usb
[13:44] <door_a> Ubuntu 10.04 has auto-updated kernel to 2.6.32-36, yet the grub boot menu only gives the option to boot kernels up to 2.6.32-34. Anyone know what's causing this?
[13:46] <_calum> Are the programs which translate dll machine code to assembly called assemblers?
[13:46] <door_a> they're disassemblers
[13:46] <_calum> ahh right
[13:47] <_calum> do you know if Ubuntu has disassembler programs?
[13:47] <cablop> dr_willis: yes, but i have fw ram now, so willing to cope with that for a time until i get more
[13:47] <chambakka> anybody know how to minimise windows in gnome
[13:49] <chambakka> anybody know how to minimise windows in gnome
[13:49] <cablop> but it seems i have a harder problem now, i was migrating some LVM extents from one physicalvolume to another one, whren the computer rebooted
[13:49] <saltnpepa> hi, i have a fresh install of 11.10, when trying to install propietary graphics driver it gives me 2 options, the regular one and "post-release updates" what to do? i had issues in the past i dont want to screw up.
[13:50] <_calum> saltnpepa:Don't install the post release ones, they didn't work on mine I did the same by accident
[13:50] <dr_willis> cablop:  unity? gnome shell? or what exactly. :)
[13:52] <cablop> dr_willis i was on gnome-shell when moving my lvm logical volume to a new physical volume... and... now linux won't boot and i ended with a weird LV called vg-pvmove0... and i don't know what to do now
[13:52] <dario_> helloworld
[13:53] <saltnpepa> thhank yoou calum!
[13:53] <randy2009> i tried to login with pub cert the other way, that works
[13:53] <saltnpepa> trying them right now.
[13:53] <_calum> no problem. glad to help :)
[13:53] <dario_> anyone familar with VW-linux problems
[13:53] <dario_> WM-linux problems
[13:53] <deej1976> !sk | dario_
[13:53] <deej1976> !ask | dario_
[13:54] <dr_willis> dario_:  clafiry the problem some more
[13:54] <dario_> i installed spoonwep in Ubunto running on VM in win7
[13:55] <dario_> it wont show the card in the first screen
[13:55] <dario_> it shoul show card like wlan0 or something
[13:56] <Pici> dario_: virtual machines are just that, virtual, they do not have direct access to the hardware that their hosts have.
[13:56] <dario_> yes thx i thought so!
[13:57] <intgr> Hi all! Is there a supported way to prevent a package upgrade from restarting the service? I'd like to upgrade PostgreSQL files on disk first and then perform the restart later manually to minimize downtime.
[13:58] <randy2009> llutz, i found something :) Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /home/userY
[13:59] <JerryNJ> I need some help _ I just vmotioned an ubuntu image to a new esx host and I need some help with a network issue
[14:00] <deej1976> randy2009: check permissions on ~/.ssh should be 700
[14:00] <VP> gnome ppp can not connect because of not being root, pl advice
[14:00] <dario_> is there any good qt3-4 video-tuts site anyone?
[14:01] <JerryNJ> I need some help _ I just vmotioned an ubuntu image to a new esx host and I need some help with a network issue
[14:01] <VP> gnome ppp can not connect because of not being root, pl advise
[14:01] <_calum> will KVM work OK for running a Windows XP guest? I want to try it, normally I would be using virtualbox but I want a change
[14:01] <Pici> _calum: Yes, it will work.
[14:01] <_calum> ok thanks Pici
[14:02] <VP> gnome ppp can not connect the USB modem because of not being root, pl advise:)
[14:03] <llutz> VP: pls whats the output of "ls -l $(which pppd)"?
[14:06] <stefano> hi, can someone help me about a script?
[14:06] <VP> llutz:  ls -l $(which pppd)"?
[14:07] <llutz> VP: open a terminal, type               ls -l $(which pppd)    and paste the line it prints out
[14:08] <ranjan_> Hi all how to set gdm banner in ubuntu natty?
[14:09] <michaela> hello i installed miro and wanted to watch hulu and it says i need to have flash installed but that doesn't make sense becouse i also installed the ubuntu restricted extras
[14:09] <michaela> can any one help
[14:11] <michaela> how do i install flash on miro
[14:11] <michaela> i already have ubuntu restricted extras
[14:12] <goldenboy87> can anyone tell how to install super grub disk on usb flash drive?
[14:13] <llutz> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/SGD_Howto_make#How_to_make_a_Super_Grub_Disk_USB. goldenboy87
[14:14] <goldenboy87> thanks
[14:15] <michaela> can anyone tell me how to install flash on miro i already tried to install ubuntu restricted extras
[14:15] <ranjan_> anybody on setting banner before GDM 2?
[14:16] <jeroen__>  /join mijntestchan
[14:17] <michaela> i dont think anyone can see my messages
[14:17] <RaTTuS|BIG> michaela we can
[14:17] <RaTTuS|BIG> whats a miro
[14:18] <lowsmoke> j ubuntu-no
[14:18] <michaela> its an application that streams media
[14:18] <xangua> michaela: as far as i know, miro uses vlc as backend player, why would it need adobe flashplugin¿
[14:19] <bhaskar> hi
[14:20] <michaela> when i click to watch hulu ot pbs it says i need flash
[14:20] <michaela> or-
[14:20] <f0_o> #ubuntu-cn
[14:20] <goldenboy87> llutz:is there other possibility to make iso on flash drive without linux?
[14:21] <f0_o> ping
[14:21] <Razec> ack
[14:21] <ThinkT510> goldenboy87: do it from windows or mac?
[14:21] <goldenboy87> yes, how?
[14:22] <goldenboy87> i use windows
[14:22] <urthmover> hmm
[14:22] <llutz> goldenboy87: if you would have read the link i provided, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[14:22] <sheenobu> Interesting: a guy I work with was told during linux training that no one uses ubuntu server in production. FUD or reality?
[14:22] <RaTTuS|BIG> goldenboy87 http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[14:22] <goldenboy87> it was another one
[14:23] <RaTTuS|BIG> sheenobu fud
[14:23] <sheenobu> I can definitely see it going either way, with my experiences with ubuntu server
[14:23] <llutz> sheenobu: #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[14:23] <urthmover> sheenobu: we do here
[14:23] <urthmover> have about 8 postgres runing on ubuntu server
[14:23] <f0_o> #ubuntu-cn
[14:23] <urthmover> do it for the large community support and current sec updates
[14:23] <goldenboy87> thanks
[14:24] <sheenobu> urthmover, yeah we do here but because it has no 'wizards' the windows people I work with don't like touching it.
[14:24] <sheenobu> I'll take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:26] <urthmover> sheenobu: pure debian also has no wizards as do most other distros....oddly enough we have the 8 servers are xserves that I put ubuntu-server on instead
[14:26] <michaela> does anyone know how to get flash on miro
[14:26] <ThinkT510> !flash | michaela
[14:26] <dario_> and does it work with Pentium dual core2.3Ghz,4GBram windowsXP inside ubuntuVM running also inside Win7 which is also inside Win7VM
[14:27] <sheenobu> urthmover, yeah we wouldn't use pure debian over ubuntu, we'd go RPM-based I imagine
[14:27] <ThinkT510> dario_: does what work?
[14:28] <dario_> the operating system inside those other Virtual Machines
[14:28] <urthmover> I prefer apt/dpkg to rpm
[14:29] <ThinkT510> dario_: why wouldn't it?
[14:29] <deej1976> dario_: Are you nesting VM's
[14:29] <dario_> yes
[14:29] <michaela> i already did that im not talking about firefox im talking about the software miro and it needs flash to play hulu an pbs
[14:30] <michaela> i already installed ubuntu restricted extras
[14:30] <xangua> michaela: well miro uses mozilla's code, tried already to play hulu videos on a browser¿
[14:31] <x-kent> !ping
[14:31] <eternalulz> !ping
[14:32] <dario_> Is thre a GUI for netcat
[14:32] <urthmover> hah dario_ you're funny
[14:32] <faLUCE>  I don't see the screen. here's dmesg:   http://pastebin.com/NEX8aPnD  and xorg's log:  http://pastebin.com/a2EY0mf9 where can be the problem ?
[14:33] <urthmover> guess there is a gtknetcat
[14:33] <deej1976> michaela: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1126991 it's old though
[14:34] <michaela> yes hulu works on firefox but its kind of onoing to have the option of viewing hulu and pbs and not being able to use it
[14:34] <urthmover> dario_: http://shinnok.com/rants/2011/03/25/say-hello-to-my-little-friend-netcatgui/
[14:34] <urthmover> dario_: google
[14:35] <michaela> i already have ubuntu restricted extras
[14:35] <dario_> ok
[14:36] <VP> trying to connect Huawei E1550 3G usb modem  with DOCOMO card. one strange thing, it gets connected   thru   network setting  in top panel very well, but not thru ppp (actually ppp shows it connected, but speed is always 0KBps. can not ping to DNS as wel):)
[14:36] <michaela> does anyone use miro
[14:37] <deej1976> michaela: try #miro, from that post it been disabled on linux due to poor performance and crashing
[14:37] <urthmover> dario_: what are you trying to do here?  and does it work with Pentium dual core2.3Ghz,4GBram windowsXP inside ubuntuVM running also inside Win7 which is also inside Win7VM
[14:37] <urthmover> ?
[14:38] <michaela> that suck ok thanks
[14:39] <urthmover> michaela: only on my ipad
[14:39] <deej1976> dario_: Have you got all the VM's setup and running ?
[14:40] <urthmover> I can't possibly think of a logical reason to have more than 2 levels of nested vm's
[14:40] <urthmover> really you can just utilize the vnetwork and just run all 1st level guests
[14:40] <deej1976> dario_: urthmover: I've never got VMware player to run another inside one.
[14:40] <Sidewinder1> dario_, I seem to remember reading, somewhere, that in order to get a modem working, you need to disable "Networking;", but I'm not sure, it was a long, long time ago..
[14:41] <llutz> that setup with 4GB RAM makes no sense at all urthmover
[14:41] <urthmover> llutz: I was responding to dario_ ...I was quoting him/her
[14:41] <deej1976> michaela: Have you tried the last miro : http://www.unixmen.com/software/1345-miro-35-is-released-enjoy-hd-tva-free-hd-video-player
[14:42] <Sidewinder1> dario_, Perhaps this'll help; if you haven't already seen it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[14:42] <researcher> while accessing this site http://geetnet.com///song/song-play?songId=215 for Karaoke recording I get the message "you must allow flash player access to your mic" what to do?
[14:46] <VP> trying to connect Huawei E1550 3G usb modem  with DOCOMO card. one strange thing, it gets connected   thru   network setting  in top panel very well, but not thru ppp (actually ppp shows it connected, but speed is always 0KBps. can not ping to DNS as wel):)
[14:47] <researcher> while accessing this site http://geetnet.com///song/song-play?songId=215 for Karaoke recording I get the message "you must allow flash player access to your mic" what to do?
[14:47] <Sidewinder1> !repeat > researcher
[14:47] <deej1976> michaela: more research : http://tinyurl.com/bqjswza : Still the same a month ago
[14:49] <deej1976> ranjan_: Try this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-unix-linux-change-gnome-login-banner.html
[14:50] <george_> hello. When I sudo alsactl store, I get Home directory/home/user not ours. Help?
[14:50] <researcher> how to allow flash player access to my mic?
[14:51] <llutz> researcher: doesn't flash come with "flash-player-properties"? try it
[14:52] <Sidewinder1> researcher, Since no one knows the answer to your issue, have you searched/posted at: http://ubuntuforums.org/ ? Just a suggestion..
[14:52] <researcher> llutz: how do I work on it? i am new
[14:52] <Sidewinder1> oops; to slow. :-)
[14:52] <Sidewinder1> me, not you llutz
[14:53] <researcher> llutz: where do I find flash-player-properties?
[14:53] <llutz> researcher: start a terminal and then " flash-player-properties"
[14:53] <mkjackson> hey folks, was looking forward to making an Ubuntu USB drive but it seems that I can't really use it as a "portable drive" as much as a "fast install CD" is there a way to have it behave as a true install (like just put in the CD and put all the partitions on the USB drive)?
[14:53] <Justus> hi, I have trouble with my nntp access. Since the last update thunderbird does not load message bodys anymore, it frequently asks me for username or password (seldom both at the same time) and throws stupid errors like: "Insert username" "Insert Password" and then "Authentication Error: No Password"
[14:54] <milamber> !bug 301140 | researcher
[14:54] <ThinkT510> !usb | mkjackson
[14:54] <Mirx> ubottu:  ubuntu flash drive
[14:55] <Mirx> ubuttu: usb flash drive
[14:55] <Mirx> ubottu: usb flash drive
[14:55] <Sidewinder1> :D
[14:55] <ThinkT510> Mirx: what do you want to know?
[14:56] <student> student
[14:56] <researcher> ok.thanks
[14:58] <mmmmmrob> anyone here running 11.10 as a guest in vmware fusion?
[14:58] <deej1976> !ask | mmmmmrob
[14:58] <ThinkT510> deej1976: i think you were looking for the !anyone factoid
[14:59] <ThinkT510> mmmmmrob: why not use virtualbox?
[14:59] <milamber> mkjackson: the link that ThinkT510 put up is correct - what you are referring to is known as a persistent install
[15:00] <deej1976> ThinkT510: Thanks haven't seen that one used to much, will add it to the list
[15:00] <mmmmmrob> I have a vmware fusion image downloaded from the marketplace (http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/va/1259373/download) it boots and loads the unity desktop and seems to be fine apart from networking. It isn't getting a network connection. I have other VMs that are working fine.
[15:00] <mmmmmrob> ThinkT510: I have Fusion and it has been working well for me for a few years now
[15:01] <ThinkT510> mmmmmrob: fair enough, i prefer open source apps
[15:01] <mmmmmrob> ThinkT510: me too, on the whole.
[15:02] <Mirx> ubottu: programming
[15:02] <ThinkT510> !bot | Mirx
[15:04] <Guest67345> mmmmmrob: So you are trying to solve a networking problem?
[15:05] <mmmmmrob> Guest67345: yes, though the vmware fusion networking may also be relevant
[15:05] <dario_> www.programiraj.com/wp
[15:05] <dario_> WWW.INVESTMENTOPORTUNITY.COM
[15:06] <HAICK> Anyone has installed a cadence daemon on flexlm on ubuntu ?
[15:06] <Guest67345> mmmmmrob: I've only used vbox as well.
[15:06] <faiob1> hi, i use ubuntu 10.04, gnome x64, today after upgrade, i can't use Xauthority for ssh, there is peapol have idea ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/757129/ :-D
[15:07]  * mmmmmrob tries re-installing the vmware tools
[15:07] <Timewarper> i want to run ubuntu as livecd inside virtualbox. Should i add it as a cdrom at the IDE or the SATA controller?
[15:08] <HAICK> i have the error: error while loading shared libraries: libpthread.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or Directory
[15:08] <deej1976> mmmmmrob: does ifconfig -a show anything?
[15:08] <apol> hi, how can I change the GTK theme in ubuntu?
[15:08] <mmmmmrob> deej1976: shows that it has not been given an ip address from dhcp
[15:09] <Guest67345> mmmmmrob: The network options in vbox are nat, Bridged Adapter, internal network, and host-only adapter.  What options do you see in vmware?
[15:09] <deej1976> mmmmmrob: So eth0 is there. Is there anything in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:09] <mmmmmrob> Guest67345: much the same - currently set to NAT but same effect when set to bridged as well
[15:10] <Guest67345> mmmmmrob: try Bridged Adapter
[15:10] <mmmmmrob> deej1976: yes, eth0 is present as is the loopback adapter
[15:10] <glebaron> Macbook Pro 7,1: I insert 10.04 install cd and it throws me to a busybox screen and says "not init found. Try passing init= bootarg."
[15:10] <glebaron> Any suggestions?
[15:10] <popey> glebaron: i have that laptop
[15:10] <deej1976> mmmmmrob: anything in /etc/network/interfaces relating to eth0
[15:11] <popey> glebaron: I dont think i ever ran 10.04 on it, only releases after that, and are you booting in BIOS or EFI mode?
[15:11] <glebaron> popey: it would be sweet if I could get ubuntu on it.
[15:11] <popey> glebaron: I have Ubuntu 11.10 on mine
[15:11] <Guest67345> mmmmmrob: You might try temporarily setting an IP that is not yet used, and see if you can ping the router or anything else.
[15:11] <glebaron> popey: How do I change the mode?
[15:11] <popey> glebaron: are you planning to dual boot OSX or single install Ubuntu?
[15:12] <Guest67345> mmmmmrob: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.91 ; ping 192.168.1.1
[15:12] <glebaron> popey: single install
[15:12] <popey> glebaron: I dont think 10.04 will work in EFI mode out of the box
[15:12] <Timewarper> i want to run ubuntu as livecd inside virtualbox. Should i add it as a cdrom at the IDE or the SATA controller?
[15:13] <popey> glebaron: boot the laptop and hold down ALT and it should give you a menu. I think you can choose there whether to boot in EFI or BIOS mode
[15:13] <glebaron> popey: newer versions will?
[15:13] <ubuntu> hi just add it a second internal hard drive on my computer i have windows 7 and am trying to install ubuntu on the second harddrive how would i do that doing a replace windows 7 with ubuntu install or install ubuntu alongside windows 7 install
[15:13] <popey> glebaron: yes, 11.10 works
[15:13] <popey> glebaron: I have 11.10 in EFI mode which is a problem because nVidia binary driver doesn't work in EFI mode ☹
[15:13] <Guest67345> mmmmmrob:  and toggle back and forth between nat and bridged
[15:13] <Myrtti> are there any other wallpapers that change according to the time than the ocelot one on oneiric?
[15:14] <mmmmmrob> Guest67345: yes, setting static IP good idea to see what's what
[15:14] <VictorCL> top does show the ram the process is using?
[15:14] <VictorCL> is it VIRT?
[15:15] <deej1976> Myrtti: wallch?
[15:15] <Timewarper> i want to run ubuntu as livecd inside virtualbox. Should i add it as a cdrom at the IDE or the SATA controller?
[15:15] <glebaron> popey: when I hold down option key, it just shows me the boot from cd choice.
[15:15] <Guest67345> ubuntu: If you want a DualBoot, leave Win7 as is, install Ubuntu on second HD, write grub to  MBR of first HD and that should do it
[15:15] <glebaron> popey: computer is currently wiped.
[15:16] <popey> glebaron: does it show two cdroms or one on screen when you hold down alt?
[15:16] <oCean> VictorCL: RES is the resident size used in physical ram. VIRT is also shared libs, data and swapped out stuff
[15:16] <glebaron> popey: one.
[15:16] <popey> hmm
[15:17] <Guest67345> ubuntu: ... but I must admit that I'm not at all sure what your question was.
[15:19] <popey> glebaron: not sure, sorry, i used 11.10 and it pretty much works okay
[15:20] <popey> glebaron: some glitches
[15:20] <Guest67345> ubuntu: The only part I understand is that you, "just add it a second internal hard drive on my computer i have windows 7 and am trying to install ubuntu on the second harddrive. How would i do that?"  And the answer to that is that the install program will have pretty clear options for just such a project.
[15:20] <ubuntu> thanks Guest67345 what i want is dualboot ubuntu with windows 7 but install ubuntu on the second drive not the one windows is in but there is only one drive showing up there when i try to install ubuntu alongside windows 7
[15:21] <glebaron> popey: I had it on my older macbook.
[15:21] <glebaron> popey: guess I will have to try the dual boot.
[15:21] <glebaron> popey: just don't like the newer versions.
[15:22] <alFReD-NSH> Can I have a little help here? I'm having CouchDB, Mysql and apache web server all running on startup. How can I remove them from startup and later on when I needed them, just normally run it with command line?
[15:22] <Guest67345> ubuntu: Are you sure the BIOS recognized the other drive? Are there jumper settings that need to be changed on the new drive or the old one? (We should eliminate hardware issues first.)
[15:22] <dyd> guys, when i browse a folder on my external hd with 10 movies nautilus get VERY slow, is it related to some kind of preview icon?
[15:23] <Guest67345> ubuntu: Are these ata or sata drives, or scsi or...?
[15:23] <deej1976> alFReD-NSH: have a look at update-rc.d
[15:23] <Myrtti> deej1976: thanks but it doesn't look like what I was looking for
[15:24] <Guest67345> ubuntu: And also, are you sure you are seeing all the available options in the screen that shows  partitioning options?
[15:24] <Lxndr> I purchased a Dell laptop back when they were loading ubuntu on them. Recently, I've had to kill the entire hard drive, and renistall the original Ubuntu (hardy heron 8.04). I am attempting to upgrade to the most recent version being offered by the upgrade manager (10.04) but I am getting errors that cause the upgrade to abort.
[15:24] <alFReD-NSH> deej1976: thanks...
[15:25] <dr_willis> Lxndr:  it may be easier to just install 10.04 or 11.10 from scratch then to upgrade
[15:25] <mmmmmrob> right, giving up on that. Downloading virtualbox and image of ubuntu 11.10 for that
[15:25] <ubuntu> Guest67345its a sata ata drive
[15:25] <Guest67345> alFReD-NSH: Why not just leave them running?
[15:26] <alFReD-NSH> Guest67345: I wanna speed up my startup
[15:26] <Lxndr> dr_willis: How can i do that? I have no access to any CD burner, and as far as I'm aware the only way to install 'from scratch' is to have some sort of a removable medium like a burned CD or the like.
[15:26] <alFReD-NSH> Guest67345: And I don't usually use them...
[15:26] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu, First step, I believe, is to format the second drive to ext3, or ext4..
[15:28] <AlanBell> Lxndr: what laptop is it exactly?
[15:28] <dr_willis> Lxndr:  how did you install  the 8.04?
[15:29] <AlanBell> Lxndr: you can install using a USB stick, but I want to know if it was one of the atom laptops that ended up with the lpia build which has been dropped (not a problem for a fresh install but will stop your upgrades at some point)
[15:29] <ubuntu> i got this drive here the drive is recognized buy windows so its working http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Seagate+-+Barracuda+500GB+Internal+Hard+Drive+for+Desktops/8294632.p?id=1172880157923&skuId=8294632
[15:30] <Lxndr> AlanBell, it's a Dell XPS M1530
[15:30] <ubuntu> Sidewinder1
[15:30] <Lxndr> dr_willis, I installed the 8.04 from the Dell recovery utility which is auto-installed on the box
[15:31] <AlanBell> Lxndr: ok, regular CPU in that, you should be fine upgrading (or doing a fresh install), what were the errors?
[15:32] <szal> ubuntu: no use in typing nicknames and nothing else; either append your message directly to the nickname, or leave it all alone :)
[15:32] <meadhikari> hello please help me format a usb drive in /dev/sdb
[15:33] <ThinkT510> meadhikari: gparted to the rescue!
[15:33] <Guest67345> ubuntu: It is possible that you overlooked it in the partitioning options page.
[15:33] <Lxndr> AlanBell, all I remember is that the error message started with 'could not commit' and blamed openoffice. Let me see if I can get to it again.
[15:33] <meadhikari> ThinkT510, Gparted doesnot even shows
[15:33] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu, This site should give you step-by-step instructions: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index Just don't go anywhere near WUBI!
[15:34] <meadhikari> ThinkT510, I recovered data using testdisk but how do i format
[15:34] <ThinkT510> meadhikari: then something is wrong, you sure it isn't in the dropdown list?
[15:34] <Guest67345> ubuntu: If you are sill in Windows, just delete what ever partitions are on it and try again.
[15:35] <meadhikari> ThinkT510, i can not find in the dropbown on gparted
[15:35] <Lxndr> AlanBell, It says "Eror during commit. Couldn't configure pre-defined openoffice.org common for openoffice.org-vokiko. probably a dependency cycle. Restoring original system state."
[15:36] <meadhikari> ThinkT510, i get mkdosfs: unable to open /dev/sdb1
[15:36] <ThinkT510> meadhikari: what is the output of sudo fdisk -l?
[15:37] <AlanBell> Lxndr: openoffice.org-voikko that is (unless it really said vokiko?) that is the finnish spell checker
[15:37] <meadhikari> ThinkT510, i get no output
[15:37] <ThinkT510> meadhikari: that shouldn't be possible
[15:37] <PeeOnYou> my god.... seriously
[15:38] <Guest67345> meadhikari: Maybe it has yet to be partitoned.  What does fdisk say about it?  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[15:38] <PeeOnYou> how do i turn off these ridiculous Disk Utility messages?
[15:38] <PeeOnYou> anyone? buehler buehler?
[15:38] <AlanBell> PeeOnYou: what messages? do you have a failing disk or something?
[15:38] <PeeOnYou> thats what it thinks
[15:39] <AlanBell> um, maybe you err, have a failing disk?
[15:39] <PeeOnYou> its just 1 disk operating outside parameteres
[15:39] <PeeOnYou> yeah
[15:39] <PeeOnYou> that may be
[15:39] <meadhikari> Guest67345, the oupput of fdisk -l dev/sdb is also nothing
[15:39] <PeeOnYou> but i dont need 5000000 messages about it
[15:39] <Guest67345> meadhikari: If it does not have any partitions, create one:  sudo fdisk /dev/sdb and then p  to see what is really there and then  n  for new partition.  (m for help).
[15:39] <Timewarper> I have been hearing that backtrack 5R1 is more integrated with KDE than GNOME (becase KDE has been used a bit longer than GNOME). Is this true? And if so, what are the practical differences?
[15:39] <Lxndr> AlanBell, Hmm, while I know several Finns, I don't really need a finnish spell-checker. I'm hoping uninstallign it will help.
[15:39] <ThinkT510> meadhikari: can you pastebin the output please? you should get something from sudo fdisk -l
[15:39] <Guest67345> meadhikari:  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[15:39] <Guest67345> meadhikari: sudo
[15:39] <ikonia> Timewarper: as the guys in #backtrack-linux
[15:40] <szal> PeeOnYou: sudo smartctl --all /dev/sdX | pastebinit <- doesn't turn off the messages, but might give an insight into disk health
[15:40] <Guest67345> meadhikari:  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb  | pastebinit    #Send us the URL and we'll have a look.
[15:40] <PeeOnYou> that's the thing
[15:40] <AlanBell> Lxndr: worth a shot
[15:40] <PeeOnYou> i've done the smartctl
[15:40] <PeeOnYou> its an end-to-end error
[15:40] <PeeOnYou> i get it.. i've known this for a long long time
[15:41] <meadhikari> Guest67345, i really get no output
[15:41] <PeeOnYou> i just dont want these messages :(
[15:41] <Guest67345> meadhikari: Then do as szal suggests.
[15:41] <ThinkT510> meadhikari: are you logged in as root?
[15:41] <szal> Guest67345: please watch who you're mixing up ;)
[15:41] <PeeOnYou> http://paste.ubuntu.com/757181/
[15:42] <PeeOnYou> oops
[15:42] <PeeOnYou> lol
[15:42] <PeeOnYou> sorry
[15:42] <szal> lol
[15:42] <meadhikari> ThinkT510, Guest67345 i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/757182/
[15:43] <Guest67345> meadhikari: Is it even being recognized by the system as it is plugged in?  (To find out do this:  open a terminal, type tail: -f /var/log/messages Plug it in and see what comes across the screen in that terminal.
[15:43] <ThinkT510> meadhikari: so you do get output, its listed there /dev/sdb1
[15:43] <Lxndr> AlanBell, Looks like uninstalling it helped. At least, it's not freezing up at the same place... Wish me luck as it continues the upgrade.
[15:43] <AlanBell> great!
[15:43] <meadhikari> Guest67345, ThinkT510 yes it is listed
[15:44] <ThinkT510> meadhikari: why did you say you get no output?
[15:44] <meadhikari> ThinkT510, I was not getting it before :_
[15:44] <PeeOnYou> http://paste.ubuntu.com/757186/
[15:44] <Guest67345> meadhikari:  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb  | pastebinit    #Send us the URL and we'll have a look.
[15:44] <goldenboy87> if i install ubuntu with windows already installed, where will it be installed then?
[15:45] <ThinkT510> goldenboy87: on a different partition
[15:45] <Guest67345> goldenboy87: That is up to you.
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> goldenboy87  on a partition next to windows
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> goldenboy87: you can use wubi to install to a file on your NTFS, or you can resize NTFS and install to it's own partition
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> ouch wubi
[15:45] <ThinkT510> ActionParsnip: please no wubi
[15:45] <meadhikari> Guest67345, ThinkT510 i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/757189/
[15:45] <ThinkT510> it makes me cringe
[15:46] <Guest67345> goldenboy87: The install program will ask you where to install it, and you will be given options for creating free space for the install.
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> ThinkT510: its an option, i don't like it either
[15:46] <nerdy_kid> why is it when I add 'UBUNTU_MENUPROXY="" audacity' to audacity's .desktop file, the desktop file no longer works, but yet if I run the exact command in the shell it works?
[15:46] <ubuntu> is installing ubuntu alongside windows a full install or a wubi
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> if you want to get used to the GUI, don't use wubi, use a live cd
[15:46] <goldenboy87> yes but default what will it be? i accidentally clicked on install with windows, instead of manually install
[15:46] <PeeOnYou> is there a way i can overwrite the SMART data ?
[15:46] <PeeOnYou> that way i can shut ubuntu up for good
[15:46] <ThinkT510> ubuntu: full
[15:46] <Guest67345> meadhikari: So what command did you use to try and format the partition /dev/sdb1 ?
[15:46] <ubuntu> ok thanks guys
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> goldenboy87: if you boot to the install CD you will more than likely resize NTFS
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> PeeOnYou: disable smart in BIOS
[15:47] <deej1976> PeeOnYou: have try smartctl -s off /dev/sd##
[15:47] <PeeOnYou> deej1976: i did
[15:47] <PeeOnYou> ActionParsnip: ill try that
[15:47] <meadhikari> Guest67345, i used gparted
[15:47] <PeeOnYou> ActionParsnip: not sure if i have an option to tho
[15:47] <szal> PeeOnYou: I wouldn't trust that disk another minute
[15:47] <ofaurax_boulot> hello ! I struggle to try to build an update to a package
[15:47] <PeeOnYou> szal: it's been this way for like 6 months
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> PeeOnYou: true, i'd grab a new disk sooner rather than later
[15:48] <PeeOnYou> ya
[15:48] <AlanBell> PeeOnYou: your system is trying to tell you something important!
[15:48] <meadhikari> Guest67345, ThinkT510 Thanks guys it worked :)
[15:48] <PeeOnYou> yes well it told me
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> PeeOnYou: or just be more vigilant with backups so if it dies, you don't care
[15:48] <Guest67345> meadhikari: Well, I don't know... You might just use mkdosfs
[15:48] <PeeOnYou> honestly if it does die
[15:48] <PeeOnYou> i dont care
[15:48] <Guest67345> meadhikari: Ok, good
[15:48] <ofaurax_boulot> debootstrap fails because I have a custom mirroir which don't have a Release in it
[15:48] <meadhikari> Guest67345, ThinkT510 Thanks a lot
[15:49] <szal> Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0 sounds promising, but as I understand it, End-to-End_Error is more of a defect of the data transmission chain
[15:49] <ofaurax_boulot> what is the work of debootstrap ?
[15:49] <ofaurax_boulot> I removed my repository from the apt config
[15:49] <PeeOnYou> hm
[15:49] <ofaurax_boulot> but debootstrap tries to find the Release file in it
[15:50] <szal> PeeOnYou: "End-to-End error S.M.A.R.T. parameter is a part of HP's SMART IV technology and it means that after transferring through the cache RAM data buffer, the parity data between the host and the hard drive did not match."
[15:50] <PeeOnYou> ah
[15:50] <ofaurax_boulot> how can I make debootstrap ignore my custom repository ?
[15:51] <szal> ofaurax_boulot: comment it out?
[15:51] <alFReD-NSH> Does any normal program, uses sendmail? I wanna remove it, any problem with it?
[15:51] <Guest67345> alFReD-NSH: Shouldn't be a problem.
[15:52] <deej1976> PeeOnYou: Start up disk utility, click the disk, view smart data, and tick box at the bottom "Don't Warn if the disk is failing"
[15:52] <PeeOnYou> deej1976: i wish it was that easy
[15:52] <awsoonn> I'm having a horrible time with my bluetooth devices after upgrading to 11.10 and need some help. I've had problems with bluetoothd crashign on me and now I'm even gettign daily Kernel panics when using BT devices.
[15:53] <szal> alFReD-NSH: sendmail is used internally to send system messages to root and/or other users; the average home user doesn't configure their e-mail client to read system messages though, so you should be able to safely disable/remove it
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> PeeOnYou: the ultimate boot cd will have a low level tester for the drive too, from the manufacturer. May tell you more
[15:53] <ofaurax_boulot> szal: done in apt.list, but desbootstrap try to find it anyway
[15:53] <deej1976> PeeOnYou: Is the option not there?
[15:53] <PeeOnYou> deej1976: for what ever reason disk utility does not have a smart data button
[15:53] <PeeOnYou> so then i can't check that box
[15:53] <PeeOnYou> just for that drive
[15:53] <PeeOnYou> the others all have it
[15:54] <ofaurax_boulot> szal: I commented it in sources.list and tried apt-get update
[15:54] <deej1976> PeeOnYou: Type re-enable smartctl -s on /dev/sd#
[15:54] <ofaurax_boulot> szal: then I tried "$ sudo pbuilder create" and it complained
[15:54] <PeeOnYou> :O
[15:54] <PeeOnYou> oh my god
[15:54] <deej1976> PeeOnYou: Try*
[15:54] <PeeOnYou> i disabled it
[15:55] <PeeOnYou> and now it shows up in disk utility
[15:55] <PeeOnYou> now i can check it!
[15:55] <FloodBot1> PeeOnYou: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:55]  * PeeOnYou jumps for joy
[15:56] <PeeOnYou> i really really hope that stops the messages
[15:57] <Guest67345> we do to
[15:57] <PeeOnYou> hehe
[15:57] <unannounced> failed to get my ap up.
[15:58] <unannounced> what i was trying to do is share my internet connection of my desktop with my AP
[15:58] <Guest67345> unannounced: And so, where did you go wrong?
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> !ics
[15:59] <unannounced> my connection to the internet is via ppp and i have connected the AP to the lan port of the desktop
[15:59] <Guest67345> unannounced: That's a good start.
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> unannounced: as long as you know the interface names, you are smug
[15:59] <ikonia> unannounced: repeating the question, won't change the teqnique you where given before
[15:59] <ikonia> unannounced: you need to state the problems you had with the ICS technique you where given before
[16:00] <unannounced> ikonia: i already read and followed what was on the link but have failed
[16:00] <muhaz> ...........
[16:00] <ikonia> ok - so you need to say what's not worked
[16:00] <unannounced> so i have the rights to ask again
[16:00] <ikonia> of course you can ask again
[16:00] <Guest67345> unannounced: Then look again.  You more than likely missde a detail or 2
[16:01] <unannounced> don't be mean to me then... :P
[16:01] <ikonia> unannounced: however, the way to do it will be the same as before, so you need to fix what went wrong, rather than ask for a different way to do it
[16:01] <ikonia> unannounced: no one is being mean to you,
[16:01] <Guest67345> unannounced: You have yet to ask a question.
[16:03] <norwack> Hey folks
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> hi norwack
[16:04] <norwack> airmon command in terminal, is that a built in our something i need to download?
[16:05] <norwack> no help?
[16:05] <ikonia> norwack: apt-cache search airmon
[16:05] <ikonia> that will tell you if it's available in the ubuntu repos
[16:05] <Guest67345> norwack: I for one, do now know what airmon is.
[16:06] <lalaland1125> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/airmon-ng.1.html It is in here
[16:06] <lalaland1125> I think
[16:06] <norwack> im trying to learn how to jack someones internet, im moving this weekend and we wont get internet there for a couple days
[16:06] <lalaland1125> According to the man page, sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng should do it
[16:06] <ikonia> norwack: ok, we are not going to help you with that
[16:06] <ThinkT510> norwack: you are asking in the wrong place
[16:07] <unannounced> norwack: its illegal but try #aircrack-ng
[16:07] <lalaland1125> ikonia, ThinkT510: He is just asking for which package provides airmon.
[16:07] <norwack> => I Dont care about laws :-)
[16:07] <conntrack> Clearly
[16:07] <ikonia> norwack: we do, so please don't ask for help with it in this channel, thank you
[16:07] <unannounced> we care telling you howto
[16:08] <norwack> ikonia: I Did not ask for help on how to do it, i just couldnt get that command to work.
[16:08] <ikonia> norwack: no problem.
[16:08] <norwack> how to i find the name of my wireless card?
[16:08] <ikonia> norwack: we are not supporting you with this
[16:08] <lalaland1125> norwack: Try installing aircrack_ng, sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> norwack: sudo lshw -C network
[16:09] <lalaland1125> And you guys, there is nothing wrong with asking which package provides a service.
[16:09] <ikonia> lalaland1125: and he's been given the information.
[16:09] <ThinkT510> lalaland1125: in some countries that may be called aiding and abetting
[16:09] <norwack> lalaland1125: Couldn't locate package location
[16:09] <Guest67345> norwack: aircrack-ng - wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities
[16:11] <aa___> hello whats wrong with my conf file http://pastebin.com/wQ3jQ3L3 ?
[16:11] <Guest67345> norwack:  lsb_release -a | pastebinit  #Send us resulting URL
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> aa___  depends on the error
[16:12] <aa___> what you mean?
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> aa___  what error do you get?
[16:12] <aa___> v Syntax error on line 6 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mecci.conf.save: <VirtualHost> cannot occur within <VirtualHost> section
[16:13] <andyn> ikonia: there is nothing illegal in aircrack.
[16:13] <unannounced> but its illegal to dive into someone's metwork without permission
[16:13] <ikonia> andyn: I didn't say there was
[16:13]  * PeeOnYou claps... so far no more disk utility messages :)
[16:13] <unannounced> network*
[16:13] <PeeOnYou> if only i'd known i had to disable smart to actually be able to turn the messages off
[16:14] <ThinkT510> andyn: technically you are correct, it's what you intend to do with it that may or may not be illegal
[16:14] <Guest67345> andyn: Keep your shirt on, no-one is making any accuasations, but as stated above, this chanel should not be about the business of hacking into networks. It's been said so just drop it.
[16:14] <andyn> so, there is no reason not to discuss about it
[16:14] <faLUCE> I'm using a live usb ubuntu, created with persistent additional space. Now, If I add files, modify configuration etc., all is persistent in the usb live mode, but If I try to install this "snapshot", all these modifications are not installed. why?
[16:15] <ThinkT510> andyn: he made his intentions clear, that was why ikonia didn't want to help him
[16:15] <dr_willis> faLUCE:  the persistant save file is a special 'overlay type filesystem'   the installer does not see those changes.
[16:15] <faLUCE> dr_willis: how can I make the installer see these changes?
[16:15] <dr_willis> faLUCE:  i have done a normal install to usb, installed stuff. then used dd to image that  flash to clone it to several other hd's
[16:16] <dr_willis> faLUCE:  as far as i know.. you dont.
[16:16] <jisaacs1207> So... I am trying to run a mincraft server on Ubuntu 11.10. I am getting steady "out of memory" errors despite allocating enough memory and using 64bit. I tried on Centos and it works fine, but I hate centos.
[16:16] <jisaacs1207> Any other complaints from people about this?
[16:16] <jisaacs1207> I have 16gb on the server, and am using about 2gb of it.
[16:16] <jisaacs1207> Ubuntu just doesn't seem to allow java to have this memory.
[16:16] <Guest67345> For all we know, norwack's intentions could be perfectly legal and I do not think we should speculate otherwise. nufsaid
[16:17] <norwack> <3
[16:17] <dr_willis> jisaacs1207:  it could be which java package you have installed..
[16:17] <ikonia> Guest67345: not when he's announced it
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> jisaacs1207: which java are you using?
[16:17] <faLUCE> dr_willis: in this case, how can I make my own distro (with lot of compiled from scratch programs and desktop configuration) ? I tried remastersys but it doesn't work well
[16:17] <jisaacs1207> java 6 hotspot
[16:17] <dr_willis> faLUCE:  no idea. I dont bother making my own.
[16:17] <DemonWitch> hey
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> jisaacs1207: try 1.7
[16:17] <dr_willis> !remaster
[16:17] <jisaacs1207> java version "1.6.0_26"
[16:18] <jisaacs1207> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_26-b03)
[16:18] <jisaacs1207> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.1-b02, mixed mode)
[16:18] <Guest67345> ikonia: Ok, but what ever norwack was up to, we don't need to discuss/speculate about it any further. IMHO
[16:18] <jisaacs1207> I did try 7, with the same issues.
[16:18] <DemonWitch> can i use ubuntu livecd to restore windows bootloader?
[16:18] <szal> DemonWitch: no
[16:18] <ikonia> Guest67345: no-one is speculating further, he's using it for hacking someones wifi network, we won't support/help with that, discussion over
[16:18] <DemonWitch> szal: can i install grub just to load windows? ( i have no linux in this pc)
[16:18] <jisaacs1207> ActionParsnip : I've tried with 6 and 7 on ubuntu, both 64 bit. Both give the thread4 memory error.
[16:19] <jisaacs1207> Centos works fine with 6 and 7.
[16:19] <Guest67345> ikonia: I think it is enough to say that we do not condone or promote anthying like that here.  Yes, good idea, discussion over.
[16:19] <norwack> ikonia: Im not asking for help! Im just asking how to get the neccesary information from the computer to do so. Idi.....
[16:19] <jisaacs1207> I was just curious what could be limiting ubuntu memory usage.
[16:19] <szal> DemonWitch: no, the Grub will chainload Windows, and for that to work a Windows bootblock needs to be present
[16:19] <lalaland1125> DemonWitch: If windows is already installed and working, grub can daisy chain the bootloader to run windows
[16:20] <ThinkT510> norwack: you think asking for the info to do it isn't asking for help?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> jisaacs1207: are there any options you can set when you run the server to give more ram? Have you tried running it as root to test
[16:20] <lalaland1125> norwack: Look on the aircrack-ng site. That is all the advice we will give you here.
[16:21] <unannounced> norwack: go to #aircrack-ng. you will find your coleagues
[16:22] <paolo> salve
[16:22] <Guest67345> unannounced: lalaland1125 norwack This is OffTopic, plain and simple, it is not a ubuntu support issue.  DROPIT
[16:22] <kubanc> how to start terminal from live CD, I would like to use lspci command
[16:22] <norwack> THinkT510: Actually, No. Not when i need help to find out of the wireless card name.
[16:22] <DemonWitch> lalaland1125: right now i have only a partition with windows, no linux. can i install grub to run windows from a livecd?
[16:23] <paolo> qualche italiano?
[16:23] <oCean> !it | paolo
[16:23] <Guest67345> kubanc: DO you want a console mode or a gui terminal?
[16:23] <Guest67345> norwack: iwconfig
[16:23] <Norwack> I Know that now.
[16:23] <jisaacs1207> ActionParsnip : I do allocate it enough ram.
[16:24] <jisaacs1207> ActionParsnip : run as root as in, log in as root to run it?
[16:24] <lalaland1125> DemonWitch: When you install ubuntu, and get to the partition format screen, it will show an option to install linux alongside windows.
[16:24] <faiob> hi, i use ubuntu 10.04, gnome x64, today after upgrade, i can't use Xauthority for ssh, there is peapol have idea ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/757218/
[16:24] <kubanc> Guest67345, i would like to use command lspci, and i would like to get the fastest method (graphic terminal or console mode), but i don't thing that console mode supports lspci command?
[16:24] <lalaland1125> DemonWitch: Like so http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nG-oz1TX1R4/TmelsFLMLxI/AAAAAAAAAIQ/a3rLm-PEW8c/s1600/install1.png
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> kubanc  ctrl-alt t
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> jisaacs1207: no, just run the command with sudo
[16:25] <unannounced> kkk
[16:25] <szal> DemonWitch: what do you want?  install Linux?  or simply restore a screwed Windows bootloader?
[16:25] <Guest67345> kubanc: Open a terminal and type   lspci   lspci will list all PCI devices
[16:25] <DemonWitch> szal: i want to just install grub bootloader, not install linux
[16:25] <DemonWitch> szal: so it will be windows + grub
[16:26] <Guest67345> kubanc: And yes, console mode supports lscpi command as well as any others that do not envoke GUI applications.
[16:26] <szal> DemonWitch: superfluous, and to my knowledge not possible
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> DemonWitch  grub is part of linux
[16:26] <ThinkT510> DemonWitch: maybe you should look for a different bootloader, grub requires a partition to install onto
[16:26] <jisaacs1207> oh. yes.
[16:26] <lalaland1125> Which package holds the old pre-unity ubuntu desktop manager?
[16:26] <jisaacs1207> ActionParsnip : Yes, I do that.
[16:27] <Sidewinder1> DemonWitch, Just out of curiosity, why would you want to do that?
[16:27] <szal> DemonWitch: what would you need/want it for anyway if you have only 1 OS and that isn't even Linux?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: not strictly, but its bundled inn distributions ;)
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  i'd say, for newbees, distro = linux ;)
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> jisaacs1207: normally? or did it just work as root?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: indeed :D;)
[16:28] <DemonWitch> FUCK LINUX
[16:28] <Night-hacks> why removing package with aptitude doesn't removes the init scripts ? any good way to do so ?
[16:28] <ThinkT510> lalaland1125: you want gnome2?
[16:28] <unannounced> is it sudo iptables-save | sudo tee /etc/iptables.sav?
[16:28] <szal> trollolol..
[16:29] <Night-hacks> DemonWitch: Linux <3 !
[16:29] <Sidewinder1> Kids?...
[16:29] <ikonia> unannounced: to save you rules ?
[16:29] <yanightmare> Hello there. I've got a serious prob. A friend has a laptop with Xubuntu. But since yesterday, when she boots, There's a poor login manager (very ugly). When she connects, back to the login manager, and again, and again... So i'm on weechat now, talking to you via a tty, and i don't know what to do... Any help ?
[16:29] <kubanc> Guest67345, Thnx for info
[16:30] <Guest67345> unannounced: Sure you don't want to create a firewall script?
[16:30] <Guest67345> NP
[16:30] <unannounced> or sudo iptables-sav | sudo tee /etc/iptables.sav
[16:30] <unannounced> yes to save the rules
[16:30] <Guest67345> unannounced: I always  just use a script.
[16:31] <jisaacs1207> ActionParsnip : The issue arises for both.
[16:31] <Guest67345> unannounced: If you create and maintain a script ofyour own, it is simplier IMHO
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: which release?
[16:31]  * szal has a couple of iptables rules saved to a file & restored on boot by an init script
[16:32] <Guest67345> unannounced: YOu can use /etc/rc.local if you want.
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> jisaacs1207: are there bugs reported, or do others have the same issue online?
[16:32] <Night-hacks>  why removing package with aptitude doesn't removes related init scripts ? any good way to do so ?
[16:32] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip: I think it's Natty
[16:32] <deej1976> Night-hacks: apt-get purge packagename
[16:32] <llutz> unannounced: sudo iptables-save > /etc/iptables.sav
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> Night-hacks: are they still present but disabled instead
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: lsb_release -sc    will say
[16:33] <Guest67345> Norwack: apt-get pruge <package-name-here>
[16:33] <deej1976> apt-get
[16:33] <mkjackson> milamber & ThinkT510: Excuse the delay, thanks for pointing me in the right direction! Linux4Eva! ;-) Have a great weekend
[16:33] <Night-hacks> ActionParsnip: no they are not disabled
[16:33] <llutz> unannounced: sudo iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.sav         to restore later
[16:33] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip: yep, Natty
[16:33] <Night-hacks> ActionParsnip: excatly like befor removing
[16:34] <ThinkT510> mkjackson: i can't remember how i helped but your welocome :)
[16:34] <Norwack> Now i got a issue here, sudo apt-get install php5-cli dont work, nor any others packages, any help?
[16:34] <RaTTuS|BIG> Norwack -  what error
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: so the only issue is the look of the graphical login screen?
[16:34] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip: it happened after installing a GUI for R (cmdr)
[16:34] <Norwack> norwack@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:34] <Norwack> [sudo] password for norwack:
[16:34] <Norwack> Reading package lists... Done
[16:34] <Norwack> Building dependency tree
[16:34] <Norwack> Reading state information... Done
[16:34] <FloodBot1> Norwack: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:34] <Norwack> E: Unable to locate package build-essential
[16:34] <mkjackson> ThinkT510: usb persistent install :-)
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> !info build-essential
[16:35] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip: No... when i connect it gives me back on the login screen
[16:35] <Sidewinder1> !pastebinit | Norwack
[16:35] <Norwack> okey
[16:35] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip: I can't access anything. I'm on a tty
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: what happens if you run:  startx    does it run ok?
[16:36] <Norwack> Here is the error i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/757240/
[16:36] <deej1976> Norwack: sudo apt-get update
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Norwack: run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:37] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip: it says I've already got one server loading. When i kill X (pkill -9 X) it comes back
[16:37] <smatic> I set up a ubuntu server with DRBL diskless thin clients for 8, while some will crash or slow client machines
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: can you log in as another user?
[16:38] <yanightmare> I tried purging and installing fglrx (maybe the ATI driver has problem i thought). No change. I have done "sudo aticonfig --initial" it says "fail to linkg to fglrx-libglx.so"
[16:39] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip: /\
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: can you log in graphically as another user?
[16:39] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip: there's not another user
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: make another to test...
[16:39] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip: ok
[16:40] <yanightmare> sudo adduser blabla
[16:40] <yanightmare> ?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: notice how fast I replied
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: because it was pre-typed
[16:40] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip: :D
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: yes, that's the command
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: everyone says it, like ubuntu can only hold one local user
[16:41] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip: same prob with another user
[16:42] <ChickenSoup> is this a graphics card/driver issue?
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: ok so you know its the system, not the user. How much free space do you have?
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: try:   sudo apt-get clean    then try graphically logging on
[16:43]  * Norwack Got it working, fixed some changes in the package gui thing(dont remember the name) lol
[16:43] <deej1976> yanightmare: also sudo apt-get autoclean
[16:43] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip: :o it worked
[16:44] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip: I've got many free space, but sudo apt-get clean worked :/
[16:44] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip: I don't understand but thanks
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: you have low system space, free some up
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: if you have low free space, things start working
[16:44] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip: 25 GO free space
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: uninstall old kernels may also help
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: do you have a separate /home partition?
[16:45] <Augustuen> clear
[16:45] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip: Nope.
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: ok can you give a pastebin of:   df -h
[16:46] <yanightmare> wait i reconnect under GUI :)
[16:47] <incorrect> how can i stop drm_kms_helper from loading?
[16:47] <yanightmare> I'm back
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> \o/
[16:48] <yanightmare> So what did you want me to pastebin you ?
[16:48] <ThinkT510> df -h
[16:49] <x0r_> Is there a way to roll back to a state before the last apt-get upgrade?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: df -h; lsb_release -a      thanks
[16:49] <ThinkT510> x0r_: if you made a backup you can restore it, otherwise i don't think so
[16:49] <yanightmare> ok you were right, it's a separate partition for the home but no prob with free space : http://pastebin.com/r0vy92Hc
[16:50] <x0r_> I though so
[16:50] <x0r_> something has changed
[16:50] <x0r_> now my vnc sessions listen on tcp6
[16:50] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip, /\
[16:50] <x0r_> instead thsy used to listen on tcp(4)
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: 124Mb free on /    that's not a lot at all
[16:51] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip, : http://pastebin.com/nbQh9JqF
[16:51] <ThinkT510> yanightmare: no problem with free space? / is 97% used up
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: that's why you are getting issues
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: can you pastebin the output of:   uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image-             run it as ONE command and pastebin the output please
[16:52] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip, wow shit i didn't understand it
[16:52] <ThinkT510> !language | yanightmare
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: thats why logging on was an issue, what is the output. I may be able to free space for you
[16:52] <szal> yanightmare: no need to understand, just copy & paste; the command is visibly separated
[16:53] <mkjackson> another quick question, if i got an OLD machine runing 8.04 but I want to "freshen it up", will it work just as well on 11.04 or are the requirements more demanding?
[16:53] <yanightmare> http://pastebin.com/7zH9yRD3
[16:53] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/7zH9yRD3
[16:53] <mkjackson> I mean, sure, the requirements seem reasonable but what about performance
[16:53] <mkjackson> :-)
[16:53] <ThinkT510> mkjackson: what are the system specs?
[16:53] <szal> obviously Natty
[16:54] <ThinkT510> mkjackson: if 8.04 works very well, chances are 11.04 will too
[16:54] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip, yeah so a "sudo apt-get autoclean" should solve the prob for a while ?
[16:54] <mkjackson> can't remember the proc so much but I know that it's only got 512 mb
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic linux-image-2.6.38-11-generic linux-image-2.6.38-12-generic ; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[16:54] <mkjackson> centrino @ ~1Ghz
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: will free you up about 500Mb
[16:55] <yanightmare> ActionParsnip, ok thanks
[16:55] <ThinkT510> mkjackson: 512mb ram is a little limiting, i'd run xfce or lxde with that
[16:55] <mkjackson> when I moved out a few years back I left my father the laptop but WinWhatever would always get spammed up and die... cautiously I put him on Ubuntu and for the most part I've never had a problem reinstalling since :-)
[16:56] <yanightmare> thank you very ActionParsnip :) problem solved
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: i suggest you install bleacbit, close as many apps as you can and run it as root then as your user. Watch settings as you will remove settings you want and also avoid options which say that will take a long time or are experimental
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: you have a small space for / so you have to be vigilant with space or you'll get issues
[16:56] <mkjackson> ThinkT510: ty again, all the love of ubuntu w/o the overhead of gnome/unity
[16:56] <mkjackson> :-)
[16:57] <mkjackson> nobody canna cross it
[16:57] <mkjackson> ;-)
[16:57] <ThinkT510> mkjackson: i'd normally run xfce anyway (my favourite)
[16:57] <ThinkT510> mkjackson: i've never liked gnome2/3 or unity
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> mkjackson: ubuntu-minimal + openbox or fluxbox = fast
[16:58] <go^> q8
[16:58] <szal> go^: we don't sell petroleum here ;)
[16:58] <go^> lool
[16:58] <mkjackson> do you guys think I should reinstall? I mean, sure it would be nice but as long as he can still update what's the difference to him? it's basically a chromeOS machine from his perspective... :-)
[16:58] <Basti_> hi everybody. is there a possibility to get an ip-address per dhcp only if eth0 has a link? i got multiple DHCPDISCOVER messages in my syslog.
[16:59] <ThinkT510> mkjackson: a reinstall will be a whole lot easier and trouble free
[16:59] <yanightmare> Ok thank you ActionParsnip :)
[16:59] <yanightmare> bye everyone :)
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> yanightmare: np man
[16:59] <mkjackson> ThinkT510: what I mean is, should I even bother getting him on the latest rev?
[16:59] <ThinkT510> mkjackson: since 8.04 up to 9.10 are no longer supported
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> mkjackson: I'd clean reinstall with Oneiric
[17:00] <mkjackson> kk, then I'll just get my hands on xubuntu 11.04 for when I head back down there
[17:01] <ThinkT510> mkjackson: go with an lts if you know you're not going to update for a while
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> mkjackson: feeling brave, Precise is in Alpha 1 ;)
[17:01] <ThinkT510> mkjackson: 10.04 is current lts, 12.04 is the next one
[17:01]  * MonkeyDust tries mini-ubuntu in vbox
[17:06] <dimitri> how can i connect android and ubuntu to sync folders ?
[17:07] <ChickenSoup> dimitri: i use the ubuntu one app
[17:07] <dimitri> may i use ubu one with android ?
[17:07] <ChickenSoup> yeah
[17:08] <lalaland1125> You can also use dropbox.
[17:08] <ChickenSoup> is drop box free?
[17:08] <theadmin> ChickenSoup: Up to 2GB yes
[17:08] <ChickenSoup> just cuious
[17:08] <ChickenSoup> curious
[17:08] <lalaland1125> Dropbox provides very good service for general backup.
[17:08] <ChickenSoup> ubu one gives you 5gb free
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu one with non-ubuntu systems?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: yes, there is an app in the market
[17:11] <ChickenSoup> works with windows
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> hmm
[17:11] <ChickenSoup> too
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> nice
[17:13] <tensorpudding> there's an ubuntu one app for android and ios too
[17:14] <theadmin> Yeah, but not for other Linux systems apparently
[17:14] <omido> ikonia:  are you there?
[17:14] <ChickenSoup> not even for debian?
[17:14] <tensorpudding> it might not be dfsg
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: the specifications are available so its up to the distro maintainers to make their own clients
[17:15] <theadmin> Hm...
[17:15] <serega_by> Hi all. I've got to disk. The first disk is boot default. I've got on second disk, how i can make it for bootloading default?
[17:15] <serega_by> two*
[17:15] <omido> i have PCLinuxOS 2011 installed(no windows) and installed ubuntu on another partition and told ubuntu to install its bootloader on its root partition . now i need help with adding ubuntu to pclinuxos's grub legacy.
[17:15] <ikonia> omido: what's up ?
[17:15] <theadmin> Well, I found one for Arch: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30081 xD
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> serega_by: set it i n BIOS
[17:15] <omido> ikonia:  i did that . now i need help with adding ubuntu to bootloader
[17:16] <omido> i'm 100% noob in that aspect
[17:16] <ikonia> omido: sorry, did what,
[17:16] <ikonia> omido: I just saw you ask for me
[17:16] <omido> ikonia:  few lines above
[17:16] <ghufran> i installed 11.1. its connected to the internet but i can cant update/install new software from the software center or the terminal. can someone please tell me how to set the proxy settings for everything to work? also, i don't see the global proxy settings option anymore ..
[17:16] <omido> ikonia:  i have PCLinuxOS 2011 installed(no windows) and installed ubuntu on another partition and told ubuntu to install its bootloader on its root partition . now i need help with adding ubuntu to pclinuxos's grub legacy.
[17:16] <ikonia> omido: I don't have logging enabled
[17:16] <ikonia> omido: why did you tell ubuntu to install grub2 - I told you not to use grub2
[17:16] <ikonia> then you didn't need to chain load
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> ghufran: run:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt.conf
[17:17] <omido> ikonia:  i didnt know how to install grub1
[17:17] <ikonia> it's already installed
[17:17] <ikonia> PCOSLinux installed it
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> ghufran: sorry:   ksudo gedit /etc/apt/apt.conf
[17:17] <omido> i can reinstall
[17:17] <ikonia> omido: doesn't matter
[17:18] <omido> right now pclinuxos 's grub legacy is the default system bootloader and is installed to MBR
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> ghufran: add this text and change it as needed: http://pastie.org/2955855
[17:18] <ikonia> so you need to chainload grub2 from PCOSLinux's setup
[17:18] <ikonia> omido: have you looked up the basic syntax for chainloading ?
[17:19] <omido> ikonia:  pclinux has a boot utility in its control center. but i cant understand some parts . here is a shot : http://img.susepaste.org/images/d7d51452.jpeg
[17:19] <ghufran> ActionParsnip: okay. thanks.
[17:19] <ghufran> let me try
[17:19] <ikonia> omido: that setup is going to boot ubuntu directly from PCOSLinux grub, is that what you want, or are you going to chainload grub2 ?
[17:20] <omido> ikonia:  i dont know . if thats easier i'm ok with that . i want pclinuxos's bootloader be the main system bootloader but i want to have ubuntu in its entries too
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> ghufran: also add: export http_proxy=http://username:password@proxy.thing.com:8080/     to ~/.bashrc        as well as:   export ftp_proxy=http://username:password@proxy.thing.com:8080/
[17:21] <ikonia> omido: I suggest you chainload grub2 then
[17:21] <omido> ikonia:  can you help me with that ?
[17:21] <ikonia> omido: I'd suggest using the PCOSLinux support resources as this is their grub and their config
[17:21] <omido> i really like both OS's. both have their good points .
[17:21] <ikonia> omido: the generic chainload options should be enough though
[17:21] <ghufran> ActionParsnip: where do i add these? to apt.conf?
[17:22] <omido> ikonia:  can you please help me with that configuration tool ? i dont know what shoud i enter in image selection and other blank fields
[17:22] <ghufran> oh. to .bashrc
[17:22] <ikonia> omido: that configuration tool is not usefult you as you want to setup a chainload entry
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> ghufran: its a blank file afaik, so just add it
[17:22] <ikonia> omido: the guys in PCOSLinux support resources should be able to help you set that up
[17:22] <omido> ikonia:  i just want to boot ubuntu . no matter if its chainloaded or something
[17:22] <ikonia> omido: it does matter
[17:23] <ikonia> omido: hence why I'm advising you to chainload based on how you've set things up
[17:23] <omido> ok thnx
[17:23] <ghufran> ActionParsnip: bashrc is not empty..
[17:23] <szal> a text editor would be faster for that; Grub1 can be easily edited, in contrast to Grub2
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> ghufran: no but apt.conf is, add the lines wherever you want in bashrc
[17:24] <theadmin> szal: A vanilla grub2 setup can also be easily edited (just edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg)
[17:25] <theadmin> szal: Not the case with Ubuntu though
[17:26] <djmitche> I'm having some trouble mapping keyboards into X11 sessions on Lucid.  /lib/udev/keymap -i shows kernel keyboard events on input/event2, but no keyboard or mouse interaction has any onscreen effect in X11.
[17:27] <djmitche> Any pointers on where X11 looks to figure out what keyboard/mouse to use?
[17:27] <lalaland1125> xorg.conf?
[17:28] <djmitche> it doesn't exist, hmm
[17:29] <theadmin> djmitche: It doesn't normally exist, xorg autoconfigures itself in case it doesn't
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> djmitche: if one exists, it will be obeyed'
[17:29] <ghufran> ActionParsnip: do you know if these settings can be managed from an interface? because i am installing ubuntu for someone and they don't know anything about it
[17:29] <Augustuen> anyone solved this yet? http://www.canyoucrackit.co.uk/
[17:29] <djmitche> thanks
[17:29] <gribouille> hi
[17:29] <Augustuen> hello
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> ghufran: once its setup, you won't need to mess with it again
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> Augustuen  wrong channel
[17:30] <Augustuen> woops
[17:30] <Augustuen> sorry about that
[17:30] <ghufran> ActionParsnip: yes but the settings keep changing. like at the univ. residence, its different. on campus, its different
[17:30] <gribouille> under oneiric, when running gvim, I get the following error : "(vim:5458): Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module 'libgail-gnome' which is needed to make this application accessible", "(vim:5458): Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module 'libgail' which is needed to make this application accessible" ERROR:accessible.c:556:spi_accessible_construct: assertion failed: (o)" what does it mean?"
[17:31] <theadmin> gribouille: Something accessibility-related
[17:32] <gribouille> theadmin, I know. how can I solve the problem?
[17:32] <teddie> install oen of the libgail packages ?
[17:32] <gribouille> teddie, I did it already
[17:33] <gribouille> isn't it possible to disable accessibility?
[17:33] <Guest67345> gribouille: How did you install gvim?
[17:33] <Fresz> hi
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> !proxy
[17:33] <gribouille> Guest67345, with apt-get
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[17:36] <A|i3N> I'm trying to ssh into another networked ubuntu box but i think the IP address changed when the router got reset a couple times - how can I find out what IP's are currently on the network?
[17:38] <Shovell> i have a toshiba satellite and i can not get my touchpad options
[17:38] <djmitche> A|i3N: nmap can do that
[17:38] <A|i3N> alrighty installing now. :) Thanks
[17:39] <Shovell> the touch pad works but i need a program to adjust  the options
[17:40] <iromli> i cant find zlib.so in /usr/lib ... where does oneiric put this file?
[17:40] <ghufran> does this look okay for mounting a disk? /dev/sda6       /mnt/DataDrive  vfat    users,owner,ro,umask=000 0 0
[17:40] <Guest67345> grandrew: You installed 11.10 64bit or 32bit?
[17:41] <serega_by> I've got A partition that has not enough free space. Which program can increase free space for A part dividing other partition that has more free space?
[17:41] <theadmin> Shovell: nano. Edit xorg.conf correspondently.
[17:41] <theadmin> serega_by: gparted can do that. But you need to do it from a livecd.
[17:42] <Shovell> that is not what i asked
[17:42] <A|i3N> What would be the basic usage command for this djmitche? lot of options
[17:43] <gizmobay> You don't need to put sudo infront of commands in the etc/rc.local file?
[17:43] <theadmin> gizmobay: You don't
[17:43] <haakonness> gizmobay: no
[17:43] <Guest67345> I guess gribouille is gone now...
[17:44] <gizmobay> wonder why my command stopped starting
[17:44] <dospod> can somebody help me generate a pgp key, I keep getting a couldn't generat pgp key generall error
[17:44] <Guest67345> gizmobay: no
[17:44] <gizmobay> usr/local/bin/noip2
[17:44] <home> hi all
[17:44] <ghufran> i get wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock ... when trying "/dev/sda6       /mnt/DataDrive  vfat    users,owner,rw,umask=000 0 0 " in fstab .. any clues why?
[17:44] <gizmobay> It's worked for years
[17:45] <Guest67345> gizmobay: We'd have to see what commands you used.
[17:45] <llutz> ghufran: pastebin "sudo fdisk -l" please
[17:45] <gizmobay> Works from command line
[17:45] <A|i3N> Nevermind djmitche, figured it out. :)
[17:45] <gizmobay> It's the No-ip biz script to update the dns
[17:46] <dospod> can somebody help me generate a pgp key, I keep getting a couldn't generat pgp key generall error
[17:46] <Shovell> theadmin: that is not what i asked i think i need the drivers for my touchpad  or something i just want to change how it works
[17:47] <ghufran> llutz: http://pastebin.com/d5kM5mZJ
[17:47] <theadmin> Shovell: This is what you want... You can edit the touchpad behaviour via xorg.conf
[17:47] <OerHeks> !pgp | dospod
[17:47] <ivellios> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 8.04 as a server/router in my network. Yesterday I had an update and now I cannot resolve any names by ping: I get the message: ping: unknown host google.com. Everything in the network works fine (routing too; since I can write with you), but cannot connect from the terminal. Any ideas? DNS are up and fine (from my ISP).
[17:47] <acu> can I have different backgrounds wallpapers in each workspace ?
[17:47] <llutz> ghufran: and pastebin "sudo blkid" please
[17:47] <Guest67345> gizmobay: How did you install noip2?
[17:48] <kio_http> Hi, I have performance issues with Unity and gnome-shell the UI is a bit laggy e.g drawing menus typing text etc ... KDE performes excellantly on the same machine with all desktop effects
[17:48] <theadmin> ivellios: Can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[17:48] <ivellios> yeah, I tried to change DNS to google's, but ping returns: ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[17:48] <theadmin> wut
[17:49] <ghufran> llutz: http://pastebin.com/9KD7WUf9
[17:49] <ivellios> theadmin: ping 8.8.8.8 returns: ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[17:49] <Shovell> theadmin:  ok maybe i am not asking the right question i would like a GUI program nto change how my touchpad works
[17:50] <llutz> ghufran: "sudo fsck.vfat /dev/sda6"    seems the fs is somehow broken
[17:50] <theadmin> Shovell: Okay, well, try to find one. I hate GUI setting programs myself.
[17:50] <xpartak> ahoj>umi nekdo z vas cesky ?
[17:50] <theadmin> !czech | xpartak
[17:50] <kio_http> ANy ideas?
[17:50] <ghufran> llutz: can i format it? its empty anyway.. i created it while installing ubuntu
[17:50] <Shovell> i would not be here if i hadnt tried
[17:51] <llutz> ghufran: "sudo mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/sda6"   then
[17:52] <gizmobay> Guest67345: I just downloaded the script from the no ip biz web site. I installed it years ago. It's run for years
[17:52] <llutz> ghufran: btw: why vfat?
[17:52] <[twisti]> hi, i run an ubuntu server, how can i change it so mail to disfgdsjkgkjh@server.com goes to another account (or is deleted) ?
[17:53] <llutz> twiringer: check /etc/aliases
[17:53] <ghufran> llutz i don't know.. which one should i prefer? btw, it mounted successfully. but it doesn't show up like the "filesystem" does ..
[17:53] <ivellios> So, any ideas, why I cannot resolve names?
[17:53] <llutz> ghufran: if you just use linux on that machine, ext4 would be fine
[17:54] <Guest67345> gizmobay: So it worked before the upgrade, and now it doesn't?  Is that it? Where are you now? lsb_release -a
[17:55] <gizmobay> Guest67345: Release:        11.10
[17:55] <Guest67345> gizmobay: sudo apt-get upgrade noip2
[17:55] <leandro_rc2010> como adionar grupos no ubuntu 11.10
[17:55] <ivellios> Anyone?
[17:55] <theadmin> !it | leandro_rc2010
[17:56] <llutz> [twisti]: check /etc/aliases
[17:56] <leandro_rc2010> mas em modo grafico
[17:56] <gizmobay> okay, I installed manually since there wasn't a package at first. Will this start automatically?
[17:57] <qbert_> how can I fix missing images when I alt-tab for third party tools ( Intelli-J ) in the new unity interface, 11.10
[17:57] <acu> I want to add a text on the foreground of the desktop - without modifying the wallpaper - something like Annotate in compiz - but I want to TYPE - can anyone help ?
[17:58] <Guest67345> gizmobay: Or have you determined if it is running  or  not? ps -A | grep noip2
[17:58] <ubuntunoob> .
[17:58] <Guest67345> gizmobay: Yea, I would suggest installing via apt
[17:59] <ivellios> I will rewrite my question: I am using Ubuntu 8.04 as a server/router in my network. Yesterday I had an update and now I cannot resolve any names by ping: I get the message: ping: unknown host google.com. Everything in the network works fine (routing too; since I can write with you), but cannot connect from the terminal. Any ideas? DNS are up and fine (from my ISP). Ping 8.8.8.8 returns: ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted.
[17:59] <Guest67345> gizmobay: And yes, it should start automatically.  ps -A | grep noip2
[17:59] <dospod> -_- this whole key thing is making me mad
[17:59] <soj200> In "System Info".. what does "Experience:  Standard" mean? Is that the best experience or i should mess around with my unknown driver.
[18:00] <dospod> thunderbird won't import my key file and neither will passwords in system tools
[18:00] <leandro_rc2010> como adcionar grupos no ubuntu 11.10 em modo grafico ?
[18:00] <Pici> !br | leandro_rc2010
[18:01] <llutz> ivellios: have you set/changed any iptables-rules?
[18:02] <ivellios> Ilutz: no, I havent... everything was running great till yesterday
[18:02] <Guest67345> ivellios: It is ok for a gateway to not resolve domain names.
[18:03] <llutz> ivellios: temporarily  remove any iptables-rules and check ping then
[18:03] <ivellios> But it was working before, it is also my server and client for irc bots :/
[18:03] <soj200> I would be better to have stars to indicate the experience rather than ambiguous terms like "Standard". That way if stars are greyed out, i know i don't have the best experience and need to tweak things. "Standard"  could mean anything
[18:03] <ivellios> Illutz: how to remove "temporarily"
[18:04] <Guest67345> ivellios: llutz If it is a nat sever and he unloads iptables rules, it will break the LAN
[18:04] <llutz> ivellios: save your rules into a file, unset all rules, test, reload rules
[18:04] <gizmobay> Guest67345: Thanks!
[18:04] <rekalzj> whois soj200
[18:04] <ivellios> yeah, I think that too... I am working through my LAN
[18:04] <Guest67345> ivellios: Are the clients unable to resovlve domain names? Or just the server?
[18:05] <Guest67345> gizmobay: NP
[18:05] <ivellios> just server, I am working on the computer in LAN and everything is fine
[18:05] <Guest67345> ivellios: Look at /etc/resov.conf and see what you have there.
[18:05] <ivellios> I looked before: DNS of my ISP
[18:06] <Guest67345> ivellios: BUt... does it NEED to resovle domain names  for any particular reason?
[18:06] <ivellios> nameserver 62.179.1.62
[18:06] <ivellios> nameserver 62.179.1.63
[18:06] <Guest67345> ivellios: Can you ping that first one?
[18:06] <mallaithe> Hey guys, I've just installed Ubuntu alongside Windows 7 on my Thinkpad x121e. The installation seemed to go fine, but it doesn't look like the bootloader was installed at all. I'd rather keep the existing WIndows 7 installation and just be able to boot (by default) into Ubuntu. Any suggestions?
[18:06] <ivellios> well... yes, since I am using it as a host for my IRC bots
[18:07] <ivellios> Guest67345: I get Operation not permitted
[18:07] <mallaithe> I installed 11.10 and chose the option to install alongside the other operating systems, just can't manage to boot into Ubuntu now =)
[18:07] <ivellios> AFAIK it is good response for DNS
[18:08] <Guest67345> Operation not permitted?  ping ?
[18:08] <ivellios> to DNS ? I think so... don't know
[18:08] <Guest67345> Doesn't sound like a network problem
[18:08] <llutz> sound like ICMP DROP
[18:09] <Guest67345> ivellios: What command was that?  ping 62.179.1.62  ?
[18:09] <ivellios> yes
[18:10] <ivellios> well... if it were network, why would my computer work fine in the network?
[18:10] <Guest67345> ivellios: sudo ufw allow icmp
[18:10] <DeltaEpsilon> I am in  love with gnome3 + ubuntu
[18:10] <DeltaEpsilon> what do I do?
[18:11] <qwebirc25001> someone help please!
[18:11] <konaya> DeltaEpsilon, counselling.
[18:11] <ivellios> Guest67345: Error: Bad port ?
[18:11] <Guest67345> ivellios: Is this server still 8.04 ?  If so, you really need to upgrade it.
[18:11] <ivellios> I know, have no time sadly :/
[18:11] <qwebirc25001> I enabled atlantis cube and my unity dock is gone. ctrl alt t not working either
[18:12] <ivellios> I am not expert in administration, so setting everything from basics is... a trouble for me. So tried not to upgrade as long as possible :/
[18:13] <konaya> Ubuntu Server with a rolling release model would be my dream.
[18:13] <DeltaEpsilon> how do I add a folder to my favo list in nautilus?
[18:13] <llutz> konaya: you don't want rolling releases on servers
[18:13] <konaya> DeltaEpsilon, just drag it there.
[18:13] <DeltaEpsilon> konaya, can :\
[18:13] <DeltaEpsilon> can´t
[18:13] <ivellios> second problem is... I cannot ping my server from outside :/ don't know why, my services are not available :/
[18:13] <konaya> llutz, tell that to all the thriving Gentoo and Arch servers :)
[18:14] <chaz|afk> firewall
[18:14] <konaya> Although you can't really use Arch on a server without looking like a fool, but yeah
[18:14] <chaz|afk> wynocks chewing through the cables?
[18:14] <llutz> ivellios: pastebin output of "sudo iptables -vL" please
[18:14] <Guest67345> ivellios: Actually, if it's ubuntu-server you still have some time yet....
[18:15] <Ferii> 5on5 on cs 1.6
[18:15] <A|i3N> ok this is weird - I'm trying to set up an SSH key on my other box. It would appear it worked, I did "ssh-keygen -t rsa" and copied to server with ssh-copy-id but it's not asking me for the password for the key
[18:15] <ivellios> Ilutz: http://dpaste.com/665002/
[18:15] <konaya> A|i3N, did you supply ssh-keygen with a password when creating the key, then?
[18:15] <A|i3N> i don't think the host is configured to allow key based logins - how do I change it?
[18:15] <konaya> Or did you just press enter?
[18:16] <Guest67345> ivellios: You may have an iptables rule restricting icmp on the outside nic
[18:16] <ivellios> Ilutz: one thing in line 37.
[18:16] <konaya> Or did I misunderstand you now?
[18:16] <A|i3N> Yes I did but like I just said I don't think I set it up to allow key logins
[18:16] <A|i3N> but I don't know how to change that setting :)
[18:16] <ivellios> I see in 37. line my old IP (it changed yesterday) :/
[18:16] <chaz|afk> A|i3N: /etc/sshd/sshd.conf
[18:16] <konaya> A|i3N, it's enabled by default.
[18:16] <ivellios> (or today)
[18:16] <A|i3N> yea I think I might have turned it off but I don't know lol. Thank you I'll check there
[18:16] <Frogging101> I think I broke Unity or some part of the Ubuntu GUI. I was doing something and in the process I (stupidly) ran "sudo killall -9 gnome-session" now the sidebar thing doesn't show up anymore, and all I see at the top of the desktop screen is file, view, bookmarks etc. menus. Alt-tab doesn't work and I have been using the TTY to start programs since I can't get to any useful menus. How do I fix it?
[18:17] <Frogging101> I restarted and it didn't fix
[18:17] <chaz|afk> reboot three times
[18:17] <ivellios> Guest67345: but it was working fine, why would I have such iptable entry now?
[18:17] <llutz> ivellios: change that rule, set your actual ip
[18:17] <Frogging101> chaz|afk: Would that actually work?
[18:17] <konaya> Try starting unity from the command line, see what happens
[18:17] <ivellios> how to change it... i still cannot understand chains (read about it for about 10 times :/ )
[18:18] <chaz|afk> or /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[18:18] <Frogging101> konaya: I did, it doesn't seem to change anything
[18:18] <Frogging101> chaz|afk: I'll try it
[18:18] <Frogging101> One sec
[18:18] <konaya> Frogging101, but what does it say? Stuff usually spit something out in the console.
[18:18] <chaz|afk> and rebooting three times usually only works the first time. :+)
[18:18] <Frogging101> konaya: I'll check
[18:18] <ivellios> Ilutz: on the line 12. too
[18:18] <ivellios> but still don't know how to change it
[18:19] <Frogging101> konaya: Hmm, it says unity-panel service process is not found. I'll try starting it and report
[18:19] <konaya> Frogging101, try making another user account on your computer and log in with that. If it works from that account but not from your usual account, something's messed up in your home directory.
[18:21] <llutz> ivellios: http://gr8idea.info/os/tutorials/security/iptables9.html   follow this, it should show you the way to change the rules
[18:21] <Frogging101> konaya: Apparently... that's not a process :(
[18:21] <Frogging101> konaya: I'll try that solution
[18:21] <Frogging101> Thanks
[18:21] <konaya> No problemo
[18:21] <Frogging101> konaya: How do I create a new user account? I don't have access to anything useful, except for the TTY
[18:21] <dluzius> need help going from a dual boot laptop to a triple boot
[18:21] <ssta> Frogging101: sudo adduser username
[18:21] <Frogging101> ssta: Thanks
[18:22] <Guest67345> ivellios: Was working fine until _______________?
[18:22] <elb0w> So my system locks up daily since upgrading to newest ubuntu
[18:22] <elb0w> wtf?
[18:22] <dluzius> is there a way to install the third OS to a particular partition
[18:22] <threexk> hello.  How can you report a bug with Ubuntu packaging?  I am getting errors about packages not being from genuine sources on a vanilla 11.10 install.
[18:22] <zagabar> How can I see where a loaded ELF file searches for a particular .so file? I do have the file on my system but it cannot find it.
[18:22] <Guest67345> dluzius: Sure.
[18:23] <ivellios> Guest67345: until yesterday: host restarted itself twice, I have made alle updates and then my dynamic IP has changed :/
[18:23] <dluzius> please tell me how...
[18:23] <Guest67345> zagabar: find
[18:23] <ivellios> Guest67345: the change of IP wasnt problem before
[18:23] <Guest67345> zagabar: or locate
[18:24] <elb0w> anyone else get an issue where all of a sudden their screen starts flickering
[18:24] <ivellios> Guest67345: but self-reseting never happened
[18:24] <zagabar> Guest67345: I am not looking for the file itself. I am looking for where the ELF file looks for it.
[18:24] <elb0w> and the system becomes unusable until a reboot?
[18:24] <zagabar> something similar to strace or such.
[18:24] <zagabar> To see where the file tries to load the .so file from.
[18:24] <Pici> threexk: That is usually due to an uncompleted apt-get update or a mirror that hasn't synced fully.  Can you try running sudo apt-get update manually and then trying again?
[18:24] <Guest67345> ivellios: dynamic IP of the server changed?
[18:25] <ssta> zagabar: ldd
[18:25] <ivellios> Guest67345: Yes, IP from my ISP
[18:25] <konaya> threexk, even better: sudo apt-get -f update
[18:26] <zagabar> ssta: Thanks.
[18:26] <threexk> Pici, konaya: thanks much, I am trying
[18:26] <ivellios> Ilutz: new iptables: http://dpaste.com/665005/
[18:28] <Timewarper> i have a flash usb which i bought 3-4 years ago, it was relatively cheap. is it possible that it has wear-leveling?
[18:28] <dluzius> how do I specify the partition when installing a 3rd OS
[18:29] <ivellios> Ilutz: but still ping is not working :/
[18:29] <threexk> Pici, konaya: After running sudo apt-get update I was able to complete the package update without errors.  Thanks.  So I had bad package indexes somehow...
[18:30] <ivellios> llutz: http://dpaste.com/665005/ new iptables, but still not working (I have also deleted old entries)
[18:30] <Guest67345> dluzius DO you have any free space?
[18:30] <omido> i just installed ubuntu and i want to install some software but its progressing on "Enabling component of the distribution" and it seems to take for years .
[18:31] <Guest67345> omido Patience is a virtue
[18:32] <threexk> konaya, Pici: I still get this error: W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[18:32] <threexk> konaya, Pici: that is upon running sudo apt-get update
[18:33] <sskalnik> Timewarper, what is the make and model of the drive?
[18:34] <raven> how to deny complete domains like *.google.com?
[18:34] <Guest67345> raven: iptables
[18:34] <ssta> threexk: try "apt-key net-update"?
[18:35] <pransalad> Hi guys. trying to install ubuntu server right now, but booting CD gives me this error: gfxboot.c32: not a COM32R image. The cd works in a different machine. any ideas?
[18:35] <raven> Guest63969, how exactly
[18:35] <threexk> ssta: tried it, but same error :/  I'll give Google a shot
[18:36] <Djehuty> Gthoth
[18:36] <ssta> threexk: there's a package that autogets missing keys somewhere
[18:36] <konaya> threexk, odd. It shouldn't behave like that out of the box.
[18:36] <konaya> Sure didn't for me.
[18:37] <ssta> threexk: umm, ISTR it's in some ppa
[18:37] <ssta> threexk: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/12/import-missing-gpg-keys-even-behind.html
[18:37] <sskalnik> pransalad, Which version of ubuntu server?
[18:38] <Guest67345> raven: iptables -A INPUT -i eth0  -p tcp -s 74.125.159.0/24 -J DROP  #Or something like that.
[18:38] <pransalad> sskalnik: latest. 11.10
[18:38] <sskalnik> pransalad, Try typing "live" at the boot prompt.
[18:38] <ghufran> what exactly happened with the settings of ubuntu? nothing seems to be in place .. can't set default applications in 11.10. the only way to set (a few) of them is through system info and that doesn't work anyway .. does anyone know a solution?
[18:38] <raven> Guest63969, tnx
[18:38] <MeirD> I have SSH connection between 2 computers on my network. Is there anyway I can how one computer's folder as a folder in the other computer?
[18:38] <Guest67345> ghufran: Unity?
[18:39] <ssta> ghufran: it's a "feature"
[18:39] <MeirD> show*
[18:39] <sskalnik> pransalad, Also, is this a literal CD or a USB installer from a Cd image?
[18:39] <pransalad> sskalnik: its doing *something*...
[18:39] <pransalad> CD
[18:39] <ghufran> ssta: i don't know what is unity and what isn't anymore .. its the default installation one would do.. off of the cd
[18:39] <Guest67345> ghufran: sudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop  #If you want to try xfce
[18:40] <pransalad> sskalnik: typing live into boot option seems to just leave it hanging there
[18:40] <Guest67345> ghufran: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[18:40] <MeirD> any ideas?
[18:40] <pransalad> ill try a reboot and try again though
[18:40] <MeirD> I want to use Aptana on one computer to edit files on the other
[18:40] <Guest67345> MeirD: nfs
[18:40] <sskalnik> pransalad, OK. And this CD works on another machine?
[18:40] <ghufran> Guest67345: what will that do? i don't mind the current interface. will it let me see more options? or get back the old way of doing things?
[18:40] <dr_willis> or sshfs
[18:40] <Gthoth> hi, having trouble with my "wacom bamboo pen" sensitivity since 10.10. That was the last version in witch my tablet worked fine. does anone have any clues about it? thanks for your time.
[18:41] <threexk> ssta: I don't know if it was a good idea, but I moved /var/lib/apt/lists to /var/lib/apt/lists.old, then reran sudo apt-get update, and no errors...
[18:41] <Guest67345> ghufran: Would put you back to old way
[18:41] <pransalad> sskalnik: yes. works on a typical workstation. it is currently failing on a dell server
[18:41] <MeirD> samba is not enough?
[18:41] <threexk> ssta: per someone's advice on ubuntuforums.org
[18:41] <dr_willis> MeirD: that can work
[18:41] <Guest67345> ghufran: xfce is not exactly like gnome2 but similar
[18:41] <MeirD> how? (I already have samba installed)
[18:42] <dr_willis> !samba
[18:42] <ghufran> Guest67345: so the new interface is limited in terms of control? or i just can't find it?
[18:42] <MeirD> ok thnx
[18:42]  * jiltdil gnome2 is better option to use  rather than xfce
[18:42] <ssta> threexk: hmm, not sure how that would help, but of it works, fine :)
[18:42] <pransalad> sskalnik: yea 'live' just makes it hang there with nothing more
[18:42] <dr_willis> MeirD: sshfs is more straight foward i find.
[18:42] <Guest67345> MeirD:  Are you talking about sharing a directory between two linux PCs?
[18:42] <MeirD> yes
[18:42] <threexk> ssta: OK, hopefully I have not subtly messed up something on my system
[18:43] <ghufran> Guest67345: like 10.04?
[18:43] <dr_willis> MeirD:  sshfs is very handy for that
[18:43] <MeirD> thnx, will try that
[18:43] <ssta> threexk: doubt it.  If you move the lists, they just get rebuilt the next time you update I think...
[18:43] <Guest67345> ghufran: Yes, limited in terms on control or customization. That is the usual complaint - to which the common solution is to switch to xfce
[18:43] <dr_willis> !sshfs
[18:43] <rodhash> Hi all... could someone give me some help to pair a bluetooth keyboard ?? (microsoft keyboard 6000)
[18:43] <Guest67345> ghufran: Yes, like 10.04
[18:43] <mushy> dr_willis, you were right using upgrade kept my personal documents!
[18:44] <sskalnik> pransalad, Interesting. Only seen that issue on USB sticks, where the "live" or "help" options are a workaround.
[18:44] <mushy> dr_willis, however since i installed the netbook edition initially it deleted my gnome and xfce install
[18:44] <mushy> ]=
[18:44] <dr_willis> mushy: of course it did :-)
[18:44] <Guest67345> ghufran: In fact, with a little configuration, xfce can be made to look and feel almost exactly like gnome2.  /join #xfce
[18:44] <ssta> sshfs is cool unless you're on a really slow system
[18:44] <sskalnik> ghufran, Yeeees join usssss
[18:44] <mushy> the 11.10 netbook gui is def improved but it still hinders my workflow
[18:45] <dr_willis> mushy: netbook thats old versio?.
[18:45] <ghufran> Guest67345: gnome2 is what i am supposed to have right now?
[18:45] <Guest67345> I just use nfs
[18:45] <mushy> dr_willis, it was 10.10 not an old version
[18:45] <qwertz> Hello, after mounting my laptop with empty battery, it does not boot anymore. It says: http://pastebin.com/LMFfSTe6
[18:45] <pransalad> sskalnik: any idea where i can go from here to get it working?
[18:45] <mushy> dr_willis, but it would appear 11.10 has its own netbook version
[18:45] <rodhash> Anyone?
[18:45] <dr_willis> mushy: 11.10 is not a netbook edition
[18:45] <Guest67345> ghufran: NO.  gnome2 is what 10.04 had.
[18:46] <mushy> dr_willis, it has one, would you like a screenshot?
[18:46] <dr_willis> netbbok version is same as desktoo
[18:46] <mushy> all it is, is a what do you call it
[18:46] <mushy> gui
[18:46] <CharminTheMoose> Why are all these weird characters appearing in the save dialog? http://imagebin.org/186675
[18:46] <mushy> a different gui
[18:47] <jorney> hi
[18:47] <ghufran> Guest67345: why not install 10.04 instead then! i just installed 11.1 anyway
[18:47] <Guest67345> ghufran: it's up to you.
[18:47] <norwack> Question: How can i make ubuntu 11.10 to look like e.g debian or similar to windows?
[18:48] <Guest67345> CharminTheMoose: What weird  characters?
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> norwack  you find themes and tutorials online
[18:48] <ssta> Guest67345: in the title bar of the dialog I think he means...
[18:48] <dr_willis> norwack: install lubuntu perhaps
[18:48] <norwack> MonkeyDust: Can you provide me a link?
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> no
[18:48] <teddie> norwack, you mean like a taskbar? .. install tint2
[18:48] <sskalnik> pransalad, I would file a bug report and/or post in the forums. Just to confirm, this is the server installer?
[18:49] <pransalad> sskalnik: correct
[18:49] <pransalad> oohh...
[18:49] <pransalad> ubuntu logo has appeared..
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> norwack  there's something chinese, moment
[18:49] <Guest67345> CharminTheMoose: You mean battery life and uptime and RAM and all that?
[18:50] <sskalnik> pransalad, I suppose you could just delete the gfxboot line in isolinux.cfg
[18:50] <pransalad> sskalnik: it might actually be loading now as i see the logo on screen now
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> norwack  http://ylmf.org/
[18:50] <pransalad> just.. 7 minutes with nothing happening is a little long :/
[18:50] <sskalnik> pransalad, Interesting. What did you change?
[18:51] <sskalnik> pransalad, Also, did you check the disk for errors?
[18:51] <ssta> you're getting a logo on the server install?!
[18:51] <ssta> somebody needs shooting
[18:51] <dr_willis> !text
[18:51] <sskalnik> ssta, does that not normally happen?
[18:51] <ssta> sskalnik: well, it didn't in 10.04server.
[18:52] <sskalnik> ssta, Because the logo comes up in 12.04. I could swear it did in previous versions too
[18:52] <pransalad> sskalnik: my cd burning app had checked after writing, but thats all for error checking goes. i presumed that since it works without issue on other machines that wouldnt be a problem
[18:52] <sskalnik> pransalad, Indeed.
[18:53]  * ssta resists the tempation to rant...
[18:53] <pransalad> will see how this goes, seems to be progressing now albeit slowly
[18:53] <sskalnik> dr_willis, I totally forgot about 'text'; good call
[18:53] <sodani> hello, any suggestions for a free text editor for development purposes?
[18:54] <firefly2442> sodani, on Linux?
[18:54] <teddie> geany
[18:54]  * sskalnik resists the urge to reply 'vim'
[18:54] <Guest67345> sodani: vim
[18:54] <pransalad> inb4 flood of editors
[18:54] <threexk> sodani: vim or emacs
[18:54] <teddie> vim and emacs are /so/ mainstream
[18:54] <pransalad> +1 for vim
[18:54] <threexk> sodani: and by that I mean vim
[18:54] <sskalnik> inb4 holy war
[18:55] <pransalad> sodani: console or gui editors?
[18:55] <sodani> looking for gui editor
[18:55] <pransalad> sublime text editor
[18:55] <Guest67345> gvim
[18:55] <sodani> I already use vim for console
[18:55] <pransalad> <3333
[18:55] <threexk> sodani:  gvim
[18:55] <pransalad> sublime all the way. actually makes things fun again
[18:55] <sodani> thanks for the suggestions. i'll check them out
[18:56] <escott> sodani, then use gvim. i think its better to be great at one tool than merely proficient at a dozen
[18:56] <Guest67345> escott: good point
[18:56] <sskalnik> pransalad, Is sublime in an official repo?
[18:57] <pransalad> sskalnik: im unsure tbh
[18:57] <uqlev> what can I use as pastebin client in Ubuntu? in gentoo wgetpaste
[18:57] <firefly2442> Anyone run a tomcat6 server? I can't seem to find where the log files are
[18:57] <sskalnik> pransalad, I have not heard of it, but am interested in trying it.
[18:57] <ssta> uqlev: pastebinit?
[18:57] <uqlev> ssta, is it python's one?
[18:57] <pransalad> ahh sskalnik: thinking about it, its not an open source app so most likely not in a repo
[18:58] <Scunizi> *info* for google searchers.. goosh.org is google search using common unix-shell commands
[18:58] <pransalad> http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/sublime-text-2-beta   <- if youre interested though
[18:58] <ssta> uqlev: umm, it's a pythin script.  Not ssure if that makes it "python's one" or not
[18:58] <sskalnik> pransalad, A pity. I found it anyway. May give it a go.
[18:59] <uqlev> ssta, thank you! I will try
[18:59] <ssta> uqlev: you go: "somecommand | pastebinit" and pit puts the output in a pastebin and tells you the URL
[18:59] <ssta> uqlev: damn, I can't type today, sorry.  Anyway, I'm not sure if that's what you want or not
[19:00] <uqlev> ssta, thank you
[19:00] <toomai> hi all
[19:00] <pransalad> i may start taking bets on this server install soon... still booting
[19:00] <teddie> Hello toomai
[19:00] <toomai> anyone got an idea where the general log files are? /var/log/messages seem to be out of the scope since 11.04
[19:04] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[19:04] <escott> toomai, try /var/log/syslog
[19:04] <cncking2000> Is it normal to have to run udhcpc 4 times on a netboot install?
[19:04] <toomai> escott: oh my...might be true....I am getting old...and actually, why chaning it :)
[19:05] <cncking2000> I am thinking that this is something worthy of a bug report.
[19:06] <CharminTheMoose> Guest67345, I mean the characters in the title bar of the dialog. The stuff at the top of the screen is conky.
[19:07] <cncking2000> Is it normal to have to run udhcpc 4 times on a netboot install?
[19:07] <escott> toomai, supposedly it has to do with the category (info,warn,notice,error) passed to syslog. they may have just decided that the categories weren't correct enough to bother having a seperate log file for non-critical messages. im sure you could reenable it by tweaking your syslog.conf
[19:08] <cncking2000> Why is it taking 11 minutes to download the kernel on a 100Mbit server today?
[19:09] <cncking2000> And again, why is udhcpc releasing the IP address in the middle of the install?
[19:09] <toomai> escott: yes, that is true...but still...RHEL, SuSE, Debian...all do it the same way...I am just wondering
[19:10] <escott> toomai, ill be honest. i dont know the difference so I just have to grep everything. they may have felt that for the target userbase it was just one more file, and one more way to confuse people so that they miss important messages
[19:11] <lauratika> is is possible that my cdrom is desconfigurated?
[19:11] <toomai> escott: well, thanks a lot!
[19:12] <escott> lauratika, what is the problem?
[19:13] <lauratika> isnert a dvd and it wont play
[19:13] <lauratika> but
[19:13] <lauratika> dvd works fine in other pc
[19:14] <escott> !dvd | lauratika make sure you run the script in /usr/lib/libdvdcss
[19:15] <regeya> !firewire
[19:15] <ubuntunoob> hi
[19:16] <regeya> anyone here have a firewire dv camera working with 11.10?
[19:16] <ubuntunoob> how do i run .pl file extentions?
[19:16] <lauratika> No such file or directory
[19:16] <ubuntunoob> i get error s when i chmod +x `em and run `em
[19:16] <escott> ubuntunoob, thats a perl file, you can also run it with perl file.pl
[19:16] <Guido1> Hello,
[19:16] <Guido1> I'm just changing from windows to linux and I like it.
[19:16] <Guido1> there are only some strange things. the only working instalation CD is ubuntu 9.04 (than i upgread to 10.04)
[19:16] <Guido1> now i would instal it on another computer, but there i have som problems with displaying it
[19:16] <FloodBot1> Guido1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:17] <Ampelbein> ubuntunoob: Is the interpreter set correctly? (The thing after #! in the first line) It should point to perl.
[19:17] <ubuntunoob> do i need pearl installed on my pc?
[19:17] <escott> ubuntunoob, it is already installed
[19:17] <ubuntunoob> ok so what do i do now?
[19:17] <Ampelbein> ubuntunoob: no, you need perl.
[19:17] <Ampelbein> ;-)
[19:18] <ubuntunoob> says failed to compile at line 46,47,48 :S
[19:18] <cncking2000> Windows 2008 server vs Ubuntu 11.04. Windows 1, Ubuntu 0. Ubuntu 11.04 cant even install on a IBM X335, it seems to release the ip address multiple times during the install, preventing forward progress. Just want to let everyone know this issue. I have tried 4 different servers, no change. The default out of the box config does not work. In the meantime, it seems that 2008 server also handles static web better, with much lower latenc
[19:18] <Ampelbein> ubuntunoob: So, it's probably not valid perl.
[19:18] <ubuntunoob> ok
[19:19] <DD2> hey guys, my headphone is not working i did a troubleshoot and here's the result http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ce23df06d74ba1b2c7d8b181eacfdf7b869eb12a, plz guide me what's wrong, it just stopped working suddenly for no apparent reason
[19:19] <Ampelbein> cncking2000: Can you file a bug about that at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+filebug ?
[19:19] <escott> ubuntunoob, where did you get this script?
[19:20] <cncking2000> How do you change the mirror in 11.04 netinstall?
[19:20] <cncking2000> The only option is us.archive.ubuntu.org, which as of right now is being painfully slow for me.
[19:20] <Guido1> the problem is that there is no normal monitor conected. I have conected it to my televisie with the yellow video conection
[19:20] <ubuntunoob> from a website, escott
[19:21] <escott> DD2, have you tried the hda_analyzer script?
[19:21] <linux4u> I know I have done this before just cant remember the options.  I want to mount an existing directory under another directory. like mount /onedirectory /home/anotherdirectory
[19:21] <ubuntunoob> a "website" ;)
[19:21] <DD2> escott: no, what's that ?
[19:21] <Ampelbein> cncking2000: You can input the data by hand if you choose the topmost slection at the language selection screen I think.
[19:22] <Ampelbein> cncking2000: Either there or at the country selection is an option to input data manually.
[19:22] <bagels> I'm using a Dell Inspiron 1090.  I can't get the touchscreen to calibrate.  The Y axis is always inverted.
[19:22] <bagels> Can anyone help  me calibrate it?
[19:22] <escott> DD2, intel hda sound has multiple output pins and every laptop is unique in what those pins are attached to. its likely that your headphones are attached to pin 15 but the default assumption is pin 13 (just making those numbers up) and thats why the headphones dont work. hda_analyzer available at the alsa website will allow you to manually play with what output pins are enabled
[19:23] <escott> bagels, you can use xinput to put a transformation matrix on the coordinates
[19:23] <cncking2000> Ampelbein: Thanks for the help, is the main mirror just slow?
[19:23] <bagels> escott, you're speaking foreign to me.
[19:23] <cncking2000> At least for today?
[19:23] <bagels> escott can you tell me how to do this
[19:23] <rinzai> I've everyone!
[19:23] <rinzai> *hi
[19:24] <Ampelbein> cncking2000: Could be a multitude of problems, carrier, load, etc... normally it's reasonably fast.
[19:24] <bagels> lol rinzai
[19:24] <rinzai> :-P
[19:24] <rinzai> (take 2)
[19:24] <rinzai> Hi everyone!
[19:24] <Guest11131> hello
[19:24] <Guest11131> test
[19:24] <bagels> hi Guest11131
[19:24] <Ampelbein> bagels: Is it an Elo touchscreen?
[19:25] <rinzai> I've upgraded to Natty yesterday and just noticed today that gEdit is 3.x
[19:25] <bagels> Ampelbein, I don't know, it's installed in the laptop.  How do I find out?
[19:25] <rinzai> how can I revert back to 2.x?
[19:25] <escott> bagels, not entirely, but i can point you in the direction. xinput list; figure out what number is your touchscreen. xinput list-props ##; you will see a coordinate transform matrix. that is the number you want to change
[19:25] <cncking2000> Ampelbein: Thank you for the help, Ill submit a bug report on the DHCP thing, and I will try to find this option so that I can change mirrors.
[19:25] <rinzai> (There's a plugin which I *really* need and only works with 2.x)
[19:25] <Guest11131> quit
[19:26] <rinzai> Man...
[19:26] <rinzai> sorry I mean 11.10
[19:26] <rinzai> not Natty -___-
[19:26] <Ampelbein> bagels: 'sudo lshw | grep Elo'
[19:27] <bagels> Ampelbein, it just says ... no wait, it went away.
[19:27] <os1ris> in an older version of debian is there a command to print all services that will start on boot
[19:28] <Ampelbein> bagels: I looked up the inspiron 1090, seems it's an eGalax touchscreen.
[19:29] <bagels> Ampelbein, escott , here's a pastebin of xinput list-props
[19:29] <bagels> Ampelbein, escott I installed the driver but it refuses to configure.
[19:30] <ThinkT510> os1ris: you could ask in #debian
[19:30] <wimaxubuntu> anyone know how the Ubuntu 11.10 network manager handles wimax usb cards?
[19:31] <Guido1> Hello,
[19:31] <Guido1> I'm just changing from windows to linux and I like it.
[19:31] <Guido1> there are only some strange things. the only working installation CD is ubuntu 9.04 (than I upgrade to 10.04)
[19:31] <Guido1> now I would like to install it on another computer, but there I have some problems with displaying it.
[19:31] <Guido1> the problem is that there is no normal monitor connected. I have connected it to my television with the yellow video connection.
[19:31] <Guido1> Can I install it or have I to connect it to another monitor? If I try it, it is very long black. longer, than with another monitor. If I connect another monitor I can only see it on the other monitor and the television doesn't get any signal. Can I change the output after installing ubuntu?
[19:31] <Guido1> Greetings,
[19:31] <FloodBot1> Guido1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:31] <Ampelbein> bagels: Is there a file called /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/50-eGalax.fdi ?
[19:32] <Guido1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/757416/
[19:32] <Guido1> is that the good link?
[19:32] <bagels> Ampelbein, there isn't even a 20thirdparty folder.
[19:33] <wimaxubuntu> Guido1: the link works
[19:33] <ubuntu> 123 test
[19:33] <ThinkT510> !test | ubuntu
[19:33]  * RaTTuS|BIG Humps |
[19:33] <cari_veri_ud> test 321
[19:34] <Weems> If I have lost my top panel in ubuntu classic (11.10) how can I add it back?
[19:34] <Ampelbein> bagels: If you are on 10.10 or newer: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ should contain the configuration files.
[19:34] <wimaxubuntu> Guido1: you could change terminals through Ctrl+Alt+F1 then back with Ctrl+Alt+F7
[19:34] <ubuntu> !test
[19:34]  * RaTTuS|BIG Humps serialsito
[19:34] <bagels> Ampelbein, what do i do with these
[19:34] <Ampelbein> bagels: Look if there is a mention of eGalax in any. If so, please pastebin it.
[19:35] <ThinkT510> somebody kick RaTTuS|BIG
[19:35] <wimaxubuntu> Weems: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2011/09/11/install-the-classic-desktop-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[19:35] <Guido1> so the output wil automaticly work?
[19:35] <ubuntu> !test | ubuntu
[19:35]  * RaTTuS|BIG Humps |
[19:35] <wimaxubuntu> Guido1: that is something you can try if it fails to appear on the TV
[19:36] <ThinkT510> ubuntu: what are you trying to do?
[19:36] <wimaxubuntu> anyone know how the Ubuntu 11.10 network manager handles wimax usb cards? I can't get mine to work.
[19:36] <cari_veri_ud> is it possible to start unity without compiz?
[19:36] <Guido1> okee, thanks :-)
[19:36] <bagels> Ampelbein, http://pastebin.com/NccxkVRd
[19:36] <wimaxubuntu> cari_veri_ud: before login, select Unity 2D
[19:36] <escott> cari_veri_ud, unity-2d
[19:37] <Weems> wimaxubuntu: I have it installed but I cant get to where I can add it
[19:37] <cari_veri_ud> wimaxubuntu: , escott ok thanks , ill try.
[19:38] <Ampelbein> bagels: Try to add 'Option "InvertY" "1" ' under the line with Driver "evdev"
[19:38] <Ampelbein> bagels: and reboot.
[19:38] <ThinkT510> out of interest what window manager does unity2d use?
[19:38] <Guido1> is there an option to see it on both screns? the computer has some more outputs. does it depend on wich a screan is conected or do i need more shortcuts to change?
[19:38] <ZenHarbinger> #mopidy
[19:39] <escott> ThinkT510, metacity
[19:39] <ThinkT510> escott: oh
[19:39] <wimaxubuntu> Weems: try holding Super-key (Win Key) + Alt and right click
[19:40] <Dr_azil> May I ask for some help?
[19:40] <ThinkT510> !ask | Dr_azil
[19:41] <Weems> wimaxubuntu: doing win+alt right click gives me the same menu as right click
[19:41] <aasim> what is the system req for ubuntu 11    ( 64 bit )?
[19:41] <Dr_Azil> Well now =\
[19:41] <wimaxubuntu> Weems: Okay, it worked for me, there are lots of sites explaining how to replace unity with gnome3
[19:41] <wimaxubuntu> Weems: http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/10/23/ubuntu-11-10-fix-how-to-add-the-classic-desktop-and-gnome-3-shell-as-login-options/
[19:41] <Weems> I am using classic
[19:41] <Weems> ok
[19:41] <aasim> what is the system req for ubuntu 11    ( 64 bit )?
[19:42] <aasim> what is the system req for ubuntu 11    ( 64 bit )?
[19:42] <aasim> what is the system req for ubuntu 11    ( 64 bit )?
[19:42] <FloodBot1> aasim: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:42] <bagels> Ampelbein, didn't help
[19:42] <wimaxubuntu> anyone know how the Ubuntu 11.10 network manager handles wimax usb cards? I can't get mine to work.
[19:42] <escott> bagels, did you restart the X server?
[19:43] <bagels> escott, i rebooted
[19:43] <Weems> wimaxubuntu: I have the ubuntu classic environment option
[19:43] <Scorpio> Hi. I'm running 11.04 on virtualbox and I've been trying to share it's files to the host. Any help ?
[19:43] <Weems> wimaxubuntu: I just cant add the top panel
[19:43] <ThinkT510> Scorpio: what is the host?
[19:44] <Scorpio> ThinkT510: win7 x64
[19:44] <wimaxubuntu> Weems: When I changed to classic, it had a top and bottom panel, I removed the bottom panel and put the windows at the top, is that what you desire?
[19:44] <ThinkT510> Scorpio: ssh maybe?
[19:45] <milen8204> Anyone knows  a program which  converts mp4 and fvl files to mp3 files ?
[19:45] <Scorpio> ThinkT510: isn't there a way for the ubuntu share to show up at my regular network places ?
[19:45] <Ampelbein> bagels: I'm out of ideas then, maybe try asking on askubuntu.com
[19:45] <escott> !samba | Scorpio
[19:45] <M0TRN_th1> why is the window manager in ubuntu 11.10 so suck?!
[19:45] <M0TRN_th1> like going from Windows Vista to Windows 3.11
[19:46] <ThinkT510> Scorpio: not sure, i've never needed to share files from guest to host (only ever been host to guest with me)
[19:46] <M0TRN_th1> or bad example but it sucks\
[19:46] <escott> !notunity | M0TRN_th1
[19:46] <M0TRN_th1> escott, I don't care about the unity thing I care about window switching with alt-tab and the like
[19:46] <wimaxubuntu> Weems: When you right click the existing panel with SuperKey (WinKey) + Alt, you should get a "New Panel" option
[19:46] <Scorpio> will samba enable me to make a vm ubuntu folder visable to my win7 host ?
[19:47] <bagels> Does anyone know how to caibrate an egalaxy touch screen?
[19:47] <Weems> I dont have one
[19:47] <M0TRN_th1> escott, I just want the normal window manager I can live with the Unity bar and that
[19:47] <Weems> so theres nothing to click
[19:47] <Weems> theres the bottom one where the applications are
[19:47] <Weems> but not a top one
[19:47] <M0TRN_th1> but I dont' like it when I press alt-tab to switch to a console and then it raises ALL the console windows.. how can I get rid of that?
[19:47] <escott> M0TRN_th1, your 11.10 unity window manager is unchanged from 11.04
[19:47] <wimaxubuntu> Weems: on the bottom one, did you try to right click with the WinKey + Alt?
[19:47] <M0TRN_th1> escott, I wasn't using Unity in 11.04
[19:48] <M0TRN_th1> how can that be configured to stop doing that particular thing?
[19:48] <M0TRN_th1> if it can I may be able to use it..
[19:48] <escott> !ccsm | M0TRN_th1
[19:48] <Weems> wimaxubuntu: I get move and remove from panel
[19:48] <Guido1> I just tryed it with my laptop. the monitor gets a signal, but nothing is displayed
[19:49] <wimaxubuntu> Weems: try clicking on the bottom panel where there are no open programs (empty space), the options should change then
[19:49] <wimaxubuntu> anyone know how the Ubuntu 11.10 network manager handles wimax usb cards?
[19:50] <ThinkT510> !test
[19:50]  * RaTTuS|BIG Humps PsyTrance
[19:50] <Weems> wimaxubuntu: thats where I clicked (on the left before the applications) and got move and remove from panel, the rest I get the same thing as right click
[19:50] <ThinkT510> can someone kick RaTTuS|BIG ?
[19:50] <ubuntunoob> HAHAHA
[19:50] <ubuntunoob> RaTTuS|BIG , lol
[19:50] <wimaxubuntu> Weems: try where you see the open windows but in the empty space there (near middle of bar)
[19:51] <M0TRN_th1> thanks escott I have installed it now, but all the window switchers are disabled what is the default one?
[19:51] <Weems> there is no open space in the middle
[19:51] <shomon> hi, how do I diagnose audio not working in ubuntu 10.10?
[19:51] <shomon> :S
[19:51] <wimaxubuntu> Weems: can you close some programs to make space?
[19:51] <Weems> just applications the only open space is to the left where there is a separator
[19:51] <Weems> it scales
[19:52] <ThinkT510> shomon: check alsamixer in a terminal
[19:52] <kevin2128> hey guys. Anyone had any luck getting the plymouth boot screen working with Nouveau 3d drivers?
[19:52] <wimaxubuntu> Weems: if you can get down to one program or two, scaling should stop
[19:52] <shomon> levels look normal ThinkT510
[19:52] <Weems> ok I get add to panel now
[19:52] <kevin2128> I only get black screen on 11.10
[19:52] <M0TRN_th1> yikes windows crashed when I closed CCSM
[19:52] <ThinkT510> shomon: none muted?
[19:52] <M0TRN_th1> I mean Unity
[19:52] <shomon> at least first page of them: master, headphone, speaker
[19:52] <wimaxubuntu> Weems:there we go, I wish it were easier to find, but that is how you add panels
[19:53] <shomon> yay! thanks , speaker was muted ThinkT510 brilliant
[19:53] <wimaxubuntu> Weems: i have to go now, do you have any further questions?
[19:53] <ThinkT510> shomon: no worries :)
[19:53] <Weems> ok
[19:53] <Weems> but I cant move it to the top..
[19:54] <wimaxubuntu> Weems: Sorry, I meant "New Panel" its in the right click drop down
[19:54] <wimaxubuntu> Weems: then on the new panel, special right click with properties, and change orientation
[19:54] <M0TRN_th1> argh I enabled "Application Switcher" in CCSM and then it came up that Alt-Tab conflicts with Unity Plugin then I said Assign anyway, but then Unity crashed and respawned and its still its crappy switcher on alt-tab
[19:54] <M0TRN_th1> how can I get rid of it?
[19:55] <milen8204> Anyone knows  a program which  converts mp4 and fvl files to mp3 files ?
[19:55] <M0TRN_th1> milamber, mplayer + lame?
[19:55] <wimaxubuntu> Weems: Did I lose you somewhere?
[19:56] <Weems> wimaxubuntu: got it now. thanks for the help
[19:56] <wimaxubuntu> Weems: not a problem, have a great day
[19:56] <ThinkT510> milen8204: ffmpeg
[19:56] <Guido1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/757416/
[19:56] <Guido1> I just tryed Ctrl+Alt+F1 then back with Ctrl+Alt+F7 with my laptop. the monitor gets a signal but no picture, the laptop screen appears black. changing back works
[19:57] <gribouille> when I try to start gvim, I get the following error message : "(gvim:9660): Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module 'libgail-gnome' which is needed to make this application accessible   (gvim:9660): Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module 'libgail' which is needed to make this application accessible   ERROR:accessible.c:556:spi_accessible_construct: assertion failed: (o)" what does it mean?
[19:57] <Scorpio> Ok guys I've installed samba and for now created an unsecure share just to test it. but still not visible in my VBOXSVR. Any ideas ? I'm new to networking Ubuntu with Windows
[19:57] <milen8204> ThinkT510, does not work for me :(
[19:58] <escott> gribouille, it means libgail is not present so the accessibility features will be missing. if you dont need accessibility (screen reading etc) dont worry about it
[19:58] <szal> Scorpio: is the VM running on the same machine?
[19:58] <gribouille> escott, but gvim crashes, so I worry
[19:58] <Scorpio> szal: yes. Virtualbox
[19:59] <gribouille> escott, how can I disable accessibility?
[19:59] <szal> Scorpio: then why not just use a shared folder as defined in the settings of the VM?
[19:59] <M0TRN_th1> every time I try to give Unity a chance it barfs in  my face and makes me frustrated and want to smash my laptop
[19:59] <cleiton> hello
[19:59] <kevin2128> I can't use Unity either on my desktop
[19:59] <ThinkT510> szal: he wants to share from guest to host
[19:59] <cleiton> i from brazil
[19:59] <kevin2128> but it works great on my laptop
[19:59] <cleiton> and you?
[19:59] <kevin2128> which is strange
[19:59] <kevin2128> it's like night and day.
[19:59] <M0TRN_th1> kevin2128, it never works "great" :)
[20:00] <escott> gribouille, if it is crashing then make sure libgail is installed. it looks like it needs libgail18
[20:00] <szal> cleiton: not important here; this is support, if you want to chat, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:00] <Scorpio> szal: because its for the client to view host files and I want it the other way around
[20:00] <kevin2128> well, yeah great in comparison
[20:00] <kevin2128> lol
[20:00] <kevin2128> I'm using GNOME 3 now.
[20:00] <M0TRN_th1> kevin2128, is it better?
[20:00] <bobweaver> Hi there I am using ubuntu 11.10 and have a bad battery in my machine. with kde and other desktops it gives me like 30 seconds untill it powers off. but with unity it asks if I want to power off or cancel I press cancel and it powers off is there any way to fix this? short of hbuying a new nattery ?
[20:00] <kevin2128> yeah it runs better, but it's messy to me.
[20:00] <M0TRN_th1> I am thinking of switching to another distro even though I have used Ubuntu for 5 years or so
[20:00] <bobweaver> once unpluged ^^
[20:00] <kevin2128> I hate having to click activities every time I want to launch a program.
[20:01] <Boohbah> M0TRN_th1: try arch linux, it's awesome
[20:01] <gribouille> escott, libgail18 is installed
[20:01] <kevin2128> I installed synapse cause all the window resizing was giving me a migraine
[20:01] <ThinkT510> M0TRN_th1: why not switch desktop? xfce is great
[20:01] <kevin2128> fonts are always ugly in xfce to me.
[20:01] <M0TRN_th1> ThinkT510, I like some of the compiz stuff like Windows-W for show all windows etc.
[20:01] <szal> Scorpio: you could link what you want to share from the VM to the shared folder
[20:01] <kevin2128> I gotta have perdy fonts
[20:01] <Guest67345> milen8204: ffmpeg -i file.fvl -map_meta_data 0:0,s0 New.mp3
[20:01] <bobweaver> kevin2128:  add fonts :>)
[20:01] <cleiton> ARIANA FROM BRAZIL???
[20:02] <ThinkT510> M0TRN_th1: you can use compiz on xfce if you want
[20:02] <Boohbah> cleiton: looks like ariana from deutschland
[20:02] <kevin2128> i did but there's just something about the way anit-aliasing works on my system
[20:02] <escott> gribouille, what does ldd `which gvim` | grep gail say
[20:02] <cek> wtf, guys. who knows sudo here?
[20:02] <Scorpio> szal: the equivalent of an mlink ?
[20:02] <Boohbah> !ask
[20:02] <cek> user ALL = (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/tcpdump -- reuests user for password
[20:02] <Loshki> cleiton: you know about this, right? !br
[20:02] <bobweaver> !sudo | cek
[20:02] <Loshki> !br
[20:03] <CharminTheMoose> Why are all these weird characters appearing in the save dialog? http://imagebin.org/186675
[20:03] <gribouille> escott, libgailutil.so.18 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgailutil.so.18 (0xb5a69000)
[20:03] <cek> what'sthe correct syntax there?
[20:03] <wendico> hello, i have bought a wifi adapter but it is not working by default, how to install? (Ralink 802.11n Wlan)
[20:03] <kevin2128> Question: anyone had any luck getting plymouth boot splash working in 11.10 with nouveau 3d drivers???
[20:03] <bobweaver> that looks like suderors file there cek
[20:03] <AlanBell> bobweaver: ultimately you need a new battery, but you might be able to recover a bit of life from that one by completely running it down, perhaps by leaving it on the bios screen for as long as possible, then charge it up
[20:03] <ThinkT510> cek: why do you want to stop password prompts?
[20:03] <milen8204> Guest67345, thanks
[20:03] <kevin2128> I'm getting black screen from boot until light dm comes up
[20:03] <bobweaver> AlanBell: thanks
[20:03] <Varazir> Hello Is there a way make a service start if it fails ?
[20:04] <Boohbah> cek: s/root/user/
[20:04] <bobweaver> Varazir: sudo services <name >  <start stop restart >
[20:04] <Guest67345> Varazir: I think you would need to figure out why it fails.
[20:04] <Boohbah> cek: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch09_:_Linux_Users_and_Sudo#Granting_Access_Without_Needing_Passwords
[20:04] <escott> gribouille, do you have anything pinned?
[20:04] <Varazir> bobweaver: I know how to start it
[20:04] <gribouille> escott, no
[20:04] <gribouille> escott, why?
[20:04] <Guido1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/757440/
[20:05] <Guido1> what can i do?
[20:05] <bobweaver> Varazir:  what service is failing ?>
[20:05] <Guest67345> Varazir: sudo services <name> start
[20:05] <wendico> hello, how to install my wireless network adapter?
[20:05] <AlanBell> !ralink | wendico
[20:05] <Varazir> Guest67345: I know why it fail. lightdm fail to start due to my amplifier is not on
[20:05] <Guest67345> wendico: What do you mean install it?
[20:05] <escott> gribouille, it sounds like the version of libgail installed is not compatible with the version of gvim you have installed. i would try and reinstall those versions/make sure you are using the versions in the default ubuntu archives
[20:05] <bobweaver> wendico:  please open terminal and type l;spci -nn and use paste.ubuntu.com
[20:06] <cek> well that's exactly what im doing
[20:06] <cek> %operator ALL= NOPASSWD: /sbin/
[20:06] <bobweaver> lspci -nn
[20:06] <cek> in my case ,  user ALL = (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/tcpdump
[20:06] <gribouille> escott, but that's what I did. I did a fresh install of oneiric
[20:06] <bobweaver> wendico: ^^
[20:06] <Guest67345> wendico: If it is physically installed already, see what iwconfig says about it first.   iwconfig
[20:06] <Loshki> Varazir:  sudo service <name> start <-- note "service" is singular, not plural...
[20:06] <escott> gribouille, and this is a 32bit install?
[20:06] <Varazir> Guest67345: I get "no screen found" error and it's true there is no screen connected if the amplifier is noy turned on
[20:06] <gribouille> escott, yes
[20:06] <wendico> looks like installed, but it is not detecting any wifi
[20:07] <bobweaver> wendico:  please open terminal and type in lspci -nn    then pastebin it
[20:07] <Guest67345> wendico: Don't see it in the network manager?
[20:07] <Varazir> Loshki: yes I know how to start it but I don't llike to login to shell and start it every time I forget to turn on the amplifier in time
[20:07] <gribouille> escott, what version of libgail should I be using?
[20:08] <Guest67345> Varazir: lspci -nn |pastebinit  #And send us the resulting URL
[20:08] <Boohbah> Guido1: that depends, what kind of graphics card do you have? lspci | grep -i vga
[20:08] <Guido1> how can i find that out?
[20:08] <Guest67345> wendico: lspci -nn |pastebinit  #And send us the resulting URL
[20:08] <bobweaver> Varazir:  put it (service) in rc so it starrts on upstart ?
[20:09] <escott> gribouille, gvim is still using the old gtk2 libraries and the associated gail library. but it appears you have that installed. can you ldd `which gvim` and make sure that there are no missing libraries. did you install gvim or gnome-vim
[20:09] <Guest67345> Varazir: (Sorry wrong nick)
[20:09] <Varazir> bobweaver: lightdm starts if I have turned on the amplifier
[20:09] <wendico> http://pastebin.com/qRCmuxxz note that i should have 3 wifi network
[20:09] <Varazir> so there is no problem with the OS
[20:10] <bobweaver> wendico:  lsmoid | grep ath5k
[20:10] <gribouille> escott, gvim has all the required libraries.
[20:10] <Boohbah> Guido1: also, if your second computer has network then you can install it with the normal monitor and start the sshd, then disconnect the monitor and ssh in from your first computer to continue the install
[20:10] <bobweaver> wendico: lsmod | grep ath5k
[20:11] <gribouille> escott, I have installed vim-gnome, vim-gtk, vim-gui-common
[20:11] <Varazir> I need to restart lightdm with intervals 1 min 2 min 3 min 4 min and then stop trying to start it
[20:11] <Boohbah> Guido1: lspci | grep -i vga
[20:12] <Guido1> what is the sshd?
[20:12] <wendico> should i pastebin ^^ lsmod | grep ath5k  ??
[20:12] <bobweaver> no
[20:12] <bobweaver> sis it come up wendico`
[20:12] <bobweaver> did *
[20:12] <escott> gribouille, i dont know exactly what is going on, but on my system i have vim-gnome, and vim-gui-common but vim-gtk is NOT installed. i would try removing all vim related packages and then install only vim-gnome in case there is a conflict of some kind
[20:12] <Guest67345> wendico: should be just one line
[20:12] <faiob> There is peapol have to do upgrade regular of ubuntu Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS ?
[20:12] <Boohbah> Guido1: Secure Shell Daemon (Server)
[20:13] <escott> Varazir, does gdm work? why not just install it
[20:13] <bobweaver> wendico:  I have the same card it uses the ath5k modualk
[20:13] <wendico> 3 lines:
[20:13] <wendico> ath5k                 121632  0
[20:13] <wendico> ath                     7611  1 ath5k
[20:13] <wendico> mac80211              205402  4 rt2x00usb,rt2x00lib,rtl8187,ath5k
[20:13] <wendico> cfg80211              126112  5 rt2x00lib,rtl8187,ath5k,ath,mac80211
[20:13] <FloodBot1> wendico: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:13] <wendico> led_class               2864  3 rt2x00lib,rtl8187,ath5k
[20:13] <Varazir> tried with a simple script service lightdm status but it gives true if it's stoped or started
[20:13] <wendico> sorry for flod
[20:13] <bobweaver> wendico:  sudo rmmod ath5k   && sudo modprobe ath5k
[20:13] <gribouille> escott, I removed vim-gtk, but it doesn't change anything
[20:14] <escott> gribouille, reinstall vim-gnome and vim-gui-common
[20:14] <Varazir> escott: I guess I could go around the problem if the system wouldn't scan for screens on upstart and just use the last known settings
[20:14] <bobweaver> wendico:  what is up woith all the realtek cards ?
[20:14] <wendico> but maybe your helping me with what it is working, my atheros card is working correctly, i have 3 network cards, only one not working wich is new. Ateros working, rtl working
[20:14] <Guido1> the computer has internet
[20:14] <Guido1> so instal linux, instal this with the software center and ready
[20:14] <wendico> the one not working is ralink
[20:14] <cek> Птн Дек  2 22:14:39 EET 2011
[20:15] <escott> Varazir, you can try to force that behavior by setting an Xorg.conf
[20:15] <bobweaver> wendico: ohh
[20:15] <cek>     Декабрь 2011
[20:15] <cek> Пн Вт Ср Чт Пт Сб Вс
[20:15] <cek>           1  2  3  4
[20:15] <cek>  5  6  7  8  9 10 11
[20:15] <cek> 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
[20:15] <FloodBot1> cek: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:15] <bobweaver> lsusb wendico
[20:15] <ThinkT510> !ru | cek
[20:15] <bobweaver> they are usb right wendico
[20:15] <Guido1> my laptop: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 [Chrome 9 HC] (rev 01)
[20:16] <wendico> yes, two usb, realtek (working) ralink (not workin) Ahteros built in laptop (workin)
[20:16] <Varazir> escott: any idea what I should search for to do that ?
[20:16] <wendico> This one not working --> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:8187 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8187 Wireless Adapter
[20:17] <gribouille> escott, I reinstalled vim-gnome and vim-gui-common, but the problem remains
[20:17] <wendico> mistake
[20:17] <wendico> this one not working --> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 148f:3070 Ralink Technology, Corp.
[20:17] <bobweaver> wendico:  ok lets see lsusb and cat  cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[20:18] <bobweaver> thansk wendico lets see your blacklist
[20:18] <escott> gribouille, i guess check and see if there are any bugs on launchpad, but gvim is a fairly commonly installed package. i would think that would be tested. you could also remove/rename your .gvimrc in case it is causing a conflict
[20:18] <escott> Varazir, Xorg -configure should generate an Xorg.conf that you can put in your /etc/X11 directory
[20:19] <Varazir> escott: I have a file allready ( to get xbmc play correcly )
[20:19] <bobweaver> wendico:  lets also see a sudo modprobe rt2800usb   && dmesg | tail  && lsmod | grep rt2
[20:20] <wendico> http://pastebin.com/WJZnmkvW for Isusb
[20:20] <bobweaver> wendico:  thanks
[20:20] <Varazir> escott: http://pastebin.com/SHFYqPeE
[20:20] <bobweaver> wendico: lets also see a sudo modprobe rt2800usb && dmesg | tail && lsmod | grep rt2
[20:21] <wendico> http://pastebin.com/u2j1WJnD this is for cat cat.....
[20:21] <Sugitime> What command would I use to call http://localhost/keepalive.php via a cron job? I want the script to execute.
[20:21] <sturd> Hello all.  Can anyone shed any light as to why my Ubuntu install disk wont work?  I select "Install Ubuntu" from the menu selection, then 5 seconds after loading the vmlinuz image and whatever else it does around then.  It hangs.  Around the time of initialising USB services, I think.
[20:21] <sturd> I'm already running Ubuntu 11.10 alongside Windows 7 (both x64),  I came to re-install ubuntu because I stupidly chose to format my root partition using 'btrfs' and it's as slow as a snail!  Now it doesn't boot to Ubuntu, or an installer of LinuxMint 11. :(
[20:21] <lwizardl> anyone use a Virgin Mobile Ovation MC760 usb mobile broadband card on ubuntu ? google isn't helping for working status
[20:22] <bekks> Sugitime: Then call the php command line interface. Btw: running php as cron is... dont do it.
[20:22] <Sugitime> How else can I keep hitting keepalive.php then?
[20:22] <wendico> http://pastebin.com/xen3wq7J this for modprobe
[20:23] <The_Loko> Hi all, i have a really annoying problem: I have a printer connected to other computer with windows, and i'm trying to print from here with samba, and i have everything  configured. When I print a test page, it says that the printer works and show the progress, but the printer doesn't do anything.
[20:23] <bekks> Sugitime: Dont run php as cron. There is entirely nothing you would need php for. You could do all that with with a scripting language worth its name.
[20:23] <bobweaver> wendico:  sudo rmmod rt2870sta
[20:24] <bobweaver> wendico:  then modprobe  rt2800usb
[20:24] <bobweaver> again
[20:24] <Sugitime> My application is a web app. The cronjob is just to keep the heartbeat of the app
[20:24] <escott> Varazir, there is a limited amount you can do. X isn't going to want to send data to uninitialized and powered off devices
[20:24] <wendico> bobweaver, done with no echoes
[20:25] <bobweaver> good is wireless working now ?
[20:25] <Varazir> escott: I guest something like that, that's why I thought of creating a script
[20:25] <wendico> nope :(
[20:25] <escott> sturd, make sure you dont have lots of extra usb devices installed that you dont need
[20:25] <wendico> lets me unplug-plug
[20:25] <bobweaver> wendico: if not lets see  dmesg | grep rt2
[20:25] <Varazir> escott: would be easy to loop just need a way to check
[20:25] <escott> Varazir, you could have a cron process that checks if lightdm is running and then tries to start it
[20:26] <wendico> I can see it present in the wireless manager, but it does not detect any wifi
[20:26] <cari__veri> Hi there, apt-get holds broken packages and wont neither install nor uninstall my display driver :(
[20:26] <sturd> escott, I pulled everything out and tried again.  Still failed.  There were somethings about unrecognised partition tables on my hard disk
[20:26] <bobweaver> wendico: if not lets see dmesg | grep rt2
[20:26] <escott> Varazir, well you have /run/lightdm.pid to work with
[20:26] <Varazir> escott: true
[20:27] <wendico> bobweaver http://pastebin.com/K13pWJTj
[20:27] <escott> sturd, how large is the disk
[20:27] <sturd> One is 500, the second is 150 (GiB)
[20:27] <bobweaver> wendico:  Error - WPDMA TX/RX busy, aborting.
[20:27] <Varazir> escott: there shoudn't be a pid file if it's stoped ?
[20:27] <bobweaver> wendico:  you have to pick one
[20:28] <sturd> 500 is a mix of NTFS, SWAP and Btrfs.  I think the 150 is purely NTFS
[20:28] <escott> Varazir, if it exits cleanly it should remove its own pid file. if it segfaults those get left around
[20:28] <bobweaver> the 2 usb are getting confused
[20:28] <bobweaver> wendico: ^^
[20:28] <wendico> bobweaver pick one?
[20:28] <wendico> oh oh
[20:28] <wendico> rtl+ratlink problem?
[20:28] <escott> sturd, did this install disk work earlier?
[20:28] <Varazir> escott: it's there even when server status say stop/wating
[20:28] <bobweaver> wendico: Yes
[20:29] <Staly_Nick> hello, i want to put !seen script with my irssi on my channel. I have seen.pl, ive started it, /listen on, but when someone write !seen <nick> my irssi (script) dont answer.
[20:29] <Varazir> service status
[20:29] <wendico> ok, lets me unplug both and plug only ralink
[20:29] <bobweaver> wendico:  if there are to moduals that colide with each other they are not going to work
[20:29] <sturd> It did.  Though I've installed the 150GiB hard drive since installing Ubuntu.  The installed version boots no problem...
[20:29] <bobweaver> wendico:  you will also have to play with mod
[20:29] <Varazir> Staly_Nick: ask in #irssi
[20:29] <escott> Varazir, the point of the pid file is to give you a pid that you can then search for
[20:29] <Staly_Nick> Varazir: all dead : /
[20:30] <bobweaver> wendico: chilli555 writes something good about this subject here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1378782&highlight=148f:3070
[20:30] <Varazir> Staly_Nick: not as good as this channel that's true
[20:30] <Varazir> escott: ok
[20:30] <escott> Varazir, ps -p `cat /run/lightdm.pid`
[20:31] <wendico> ups, i forgot im browsing internet with my RTL, nevertheless, unplugin RTL and pluging only the Ralink does not solve the problem, should i run any command with the ralink only card plugged?
[20:31] <Staly_Nick> Varazir: niebo, a ziemia/himmel und erde/english? i cant soo well : /
[20:31] <escott> sturd, maybe unplug the 150GiB. although it sounds strange
[20:31] <Varazir> escott: gives me   PID TTY          TIME CMD
[20:31] <escott> Varazir, which means its not running
[20:32] <Varazir> there is still a file in /run ... I could maybe check with ps
[20:32] <escott> Varazir, you just did check with ps
[20:32] <sturd> escott.  will do.  Though I can't promise I won't lay it out on the floor and elbow drop the bugger! haha
[20:32] <Varazir> escott: I mean in the script
[20:33] <wendico> should i rmmod and modprobe just with my ralink card plugged?
[20:33] <Varazir> Staly_Nick: swedish/english only
[20:34] <Varazir> Staly_Nick: but I don't know the solution to your problem
[20:35] <Staly_Nick> Varazir: do U know something else, that have function of "last !seen user"?
[20:35] <escott> Varazir, this is probably easier to work with
[20:35] <escott> Varazir, ps --no-heading -p `cat /run/lightdm.pid` -o comm
[20:36] <Varazir> escott: thanks
[20:36] <sharpK> so ubuntu autofound some nvidia drivers for me, but is not reading a second monitor, is it suggested to install some other drivers for a geforce card?
[20:37] <bekks> sharpK: No. The recommended way is to start nvidia-settings to configure your second monitor.
[20:38] <Varazir> Staly_Nick: try google, could be a setting, you could try to use the /help command
[20:39] <sskalnik> sharpK, what bekks said
[20:39] <Hethrir> on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule there is a grammatical error, however there is a request to not change anything, is it safe to change something small (19st to 19th)?
[20:39] <dustman> hej
[20:39] <sharpK> bekks and sskalnik, I dont seem to have an nvidia-settings thing, so I guess the drivers did not include that, will check nvidia.com for newer drivers
[20:39] <bekks> sharpK: NO.
[20:40] <sharpK> bekks ?
[20:40] <sskalnik> sharpK, I can't recommend that. Did you go to Settings, then nVidia X Server Settings?
[20:40] <bekks> sharpK: It is NOT included in the nvidia-driver package. apt-get install nvidia-settings
[20:40] <sharpK> sskalnik yes, bekks, k I'll try that
[20:41] <wendico> bobweaver, may my ralink card colide with my internal atheros card? unpluging my other usb card does not solve the problem
[20:41] <dustman> I've changed monitor from an old tube to a new Samsung SyncMaster 740b, but using spec resolution, 1280x1024 results in 2 cm black edge to the right
[20:41] <milen8204> how to repair the dummy-message ?
[20:42] <Staly_Nick> Varazir: its seems like it should work, but when i write !seen <nick> then ive got answer "I'm <nick>!" : / funny. When I wrote chan msg with !seen <nick> from second session, my irssi-bot-script doesnt respond.
[20:42] <Jettis> my cd keeps spinning all time. why doesn't it stop? cd is not even mounted
[20:42] <milen8204> i cant understand the file which it says, anyone knows it ?
[20:42] <dustman> if I use 1280X960, it results in visual distortion, but fills whole screen area
[20:43] <dustman> can it be fixed?
[20:44] <suzanna> I'm having major headaches trying to get NAS access...need help "mapping" the "drives" and setting up for backups...help?
[20:45] <Merk> ciao
[20:45] <Merk> !list
[20:46] <sharpK> how does one restart the computer from the terminal?
[20:46] <mattgyver> share, sudo shutdown -r now
[20:46] <wendico> or sudo reboot
[20:46] <mattgyver> sharpK, sorry that was for you
[20:46] <sharpK> thanks, though everything crashed so I couldn't access the terminal either
[20:46] <sharpK> had to manually shut down that bad boy
[20:47] <sharpK> for some reason, I thought linux could never crash that way...
[20:47] <escott> suzanna, most NAS out of the box are using samba. you should be able to access them with //server/folder in nautilus, but there are lots of alternatives depending upon the nas you are using
[20:47] <sharpK> prolly hype
[20:47] <mattgyver> for some crazy reason compiz is not starting automatically on a reboot, anyone able to advise?
[20:48] <xente> anyone else having trouble with kopete and gtalk?
[20:48] <Hethrir> on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule there is a grammatical error, however there is a request to not change anything, is it safe to change something small (19st to 19th)?
[20:48] <Exxon> hi
[20:48] <escott> !ot | Hethrir
[20:48] <Coded1> Hello all
[20:48] <suzanna> well that would be part of the problem....I have samba set up but it usually times out so I can't access anything
[20:49] <Hethrir> kk
[20:49] <Coded1> I need to install a cuda driver but when I try it tells me to kill xorg first I'm not sure how though. Running 11.10
[20:50] <yiuop> !list
[20:50] <escott> Coded1, ctrl-alt-f1; login, service lightdm stop (perhaps service gdm stop) then do your stuff
[20:51] <Exxon> Coded1, http://www.r-tutor.com/gpu-computing/cuda-installation/cuda4.0-ubuntu
[20:54] <Guest86058> I want to uninstall unity 3d and just use unity 2d. Is there a way to do this?
[20:54] <cari__veri> Hello , I messed up my apt-get. it cannot update and not install anything, some sources are tried but fail fethcing.
[20:54] <CharlieSu> Hi all.  thinking about learning a new shell.  Been using bash for years, but i want to try something new..  What do you think the best alternative is?
[20:55] <ThinkT510> Guest86058: why uninstall? why not just login as unity2d and keep that as default session?
[20:55] <ViaNocturna> CharlieSu, have you tried Zsh? I personally know nothing about it, but read about it a while back
[20:55] <wendico> help to make a Ralink usb wireless adapter to work
[20:55] <Guest86058> I was hoping to speed up my laptop.
[20:56] <CharlieSu> ViaNocturna: I have seen it and read a few tutorials..   it is probably what I'm going with..  Just trying to get a few opinios before I head down the learning path
[20:56] <ThinkT510> Guest86058: removing unity3d won't speed it up
[20:56] <Exxon> Guest86058, this like switching untiy to 2D to 3D..
[20:57] <Guest86058> Ubuntu 11.10 is slow on my dell latitude d610. I suppose I'll switch back to 10.04lts.
[20:58] <Exxon> wendico, that the module for ralink usb
[20:58] <ThinkT510> Guest86058: why not just use a different desktop?
[20:59] <Exxon> Guest86058, you should register ..
[20:59] <imark> Guest86058: use lubuntu
[21:00] <Guest86058> I'm wary of putting ubuntu 11.10 on anything really good due to the power regression.
[21:00] <sskalnik> Guest86058, I recommend trying Lubuntu or another lightweight desktop
[21:01] <Guest86058> I'll try puppy linux--which is the fastest distro I know.
[21:01] <sskalnik> Guest86058, It is indeed fast
[21:02] <Guest86058> Lubuntu I've found to be annoyingly buggy.
[21:02] <lolocaust> im not changing my netbook to anything with a 3.x kernel owing to the power problems, until its fixed
[21:03] <lolocaust> MeeGo ftw!
[21:03] <crazydiamond> Hi. If my CPU is 32 bit AMD, which iso file must I download? i386 or amd64?
[21:03] <escott> crazydiamond, i386
[21:03] <lolocaust> crazydiamond: i386
[21:04] <lolocaust> snap
[21:04] <crazydiamond> lolocaust: thanks
[21:04] <Kimble> lolocaust: I was just going to ask about that.  I run 3.0.0-13-server on a Dell laptop. Are you saying that this kernel isn't as power-friendly as 2.6?
[21:04] <wendico> exxon, I did rmmod rt2870sta and modprobe rt2800usb, enough? dmesg | frep rt2 has no errors
[21:04] <crazydiamond> escott: thanks to you too :)
[21:04] <Exxon> Guest86058,  lubuntu is perfect..puppy if want to try go head ..
[21:04] <escott> lolocaust, you know that you can add a single line to your rc.local and force the pci power saving mode
[21:04] <lolocaust> escott: doesnt work
[21:04] <lolocaust> escott: double battery life with 2.6
[21:04] <Exxon> wendico, yeh! why do you try it..
[21:05] <lolocaust> Kimble: its a bug, its been recognised and is being worked on, some process leaking power
[21:05] <wendico> exxon, somebody told me to an hour ago, but wifi still not working. nevertheless iwconfig show my wifi card
[21:05] <Kimble> ah, ok, thanks for clearing that up for e lolocaust.
[21:05] <wendico> what can i do
[21:06] <wendico> I start over, i boot a live ubuntu, plug my rt2800 usb card and is not working, what to do?
[21:06] <lolocaust> Kimble: probably by 12.10 it will be fixed, doubt it in time for 12.04
[21:06] <Exxon> wendico, atleast you know the module driver of the wirelesss
[21:06] <CharminTheMoose> Why are all these weird characters appearing in the save dialog? http://imagebin.org/186675
[21:07] <Kimble> I found and have now lost a link that detailed how to use GRUB to boot from an SD Card on laptops that don't allow this from the BIOS?
[21:07] <qdk> What is the console command for the package selector used under the installation of ubuntu?
[21:07] <Exxon> wendico, modprobe rtl2800
[21:08] <Kimble> Anyone able to help with that?
[21:08] <wendico> exxon, Fatal: Module rtl2800 not found
[21:09] <Exxon> wendico, use root
[21:09] <wendico> did
[21:09] <sskalnik> qdk, you mean apt-get or aptitude or synaptic?
[21:09] <wendico> i mean i did sudo (im live)
[21:09] <AzoteLogiko> CharminTheMoose, it seems the destination/origin unit has a extrange volume name or has a bad format
[21:09] <qdk> sskalnik: Neither.
[21:09] <Exxon> wendico, lsusb -v please paste the output
[21:09] <qdk> synaptic is GUI, isnt it?
[21:10] <sskalnik> qdk, yes. The other two are command line
[21:10] <ViaNocturna> qdk, what do you mean by package selector used under installation?
[21:10] <qdk> sskalnik: and non of them are used in the installers frontend.
[21:10] <vyadhaka> how to change the minimize, max, options to the right in 11.10
[21:11] <sskalnik> qdk, I wasn't sure if you meant "command line versions" or "the command to open any of the package selectors"
[21:11] <sskalnik> qdk, I am not sure what you mean
[21:11] <qdk> ViaNocturna: There only option for selection packages to install during the install process.
[21:11] <Exxon> CharminTheMoose, what are you using.
[21:11] <qdk> Its not like its a multiple option question... There is only one.
[21:12] <sskalnik> qdk, Again, not sure what you mean. Are you asking about how to select packages during initial install of the OS?
[21:12] <CharminTheMoose> Exxon, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 with LWM, rox, conky and tablaunch.
[21:12] <Guest67345> CharminTheMoose: A google search turned up this:  http://www.a110wiki.de/wiki/Booting_from_SD
[21:13] <Kimble> Guest67345: did you mean that link for me, not CharminTheMoose ?
[21:13] <CharminTheMoose> I'm not booting on a SSD. Just a bog standard 7200 RPM 500 gig sata hdd
[21:13] <qdk> sskalnik: I know how... its impossible to miss during the install.. I just need the name of that application, so i can start it myself after the install is done.
[21:13] <guntbert> qdk: are you talking about tasksel?
[21:13] <Exxon> CharminTheMoose, the paste ..show that something else
[21:13] <guntbert> !tasksel | qdk
[21:13] <qdk> guntbert: Bingo, thanks.
[21:14] <CharminTheMoose> Exxon, what do you mean?
[21:14] <mattgyver> (10.10) I've enabled "Extra" desktop effects however when I reboot its reset to none, any ideas?
[21:14] <newbridge> hi there could someone explain me how to add x11vnc to the autostart?
[21:14] <guntbert> qdk: you're welcome :-)  ... and be careful, read what I sent you ^^^
[21:14] <wendico> Exxon, i cant paste, im offline in the affected computer since i cannot make wifis to work, my router is to far, nevertheless with lsusb -v i can see my adapter with much data (some not correct)
[21:15] <qdk> guntbert: Yeah, i know the pacakges system... I just never use the tasksel for anything, but its more noob friendly, so I can use it in my guides.
[21:15] <newbridge> hi there could someone explain me how to add x11vnc to the autostart
[21:15] <newbridge> sry disconnect, thats why i repeated my question.
[21:16] <Exxon> wendico, it has nothing to do with you router just paste the output
[21:16] <guntbert> qdk: it is fine for installing - but dangerous otherwise
[21:16] <sskalnik> Very
[21:16] <mattgyver> newbridge, here is the guide I always follow, its dated but should still hold true; http://goo.gl/XcOmw
[21:16] <esben> I have high power usage on my thinkpad t420 -- I have tried a couple different thinks, pcie_aspm=force at boot, some kernel that was supposed to have the acpi fix, installing tp_smapi_dkms but still have +20 W power usage...
[21:16] <Exxon> CharminTheMoose, it seems to me that you have gmail problems not wired..
[21:16] <qdk> guntbert: yeah... it use it for pre-stuff for my guides... on a freshly installed system.
[21:17] <esben> Any ideas? Its a core i5
[21:17] <wendico> lol Exxon, i cant paste because the affected computer is not conected to internet
[21:17] <kkd> hi
[21:17] <Kimble> esben: have you tried http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki ?
[21:18] <guntbert> qdk: it ok with me (I learnt it the semi-hard way (it was only a VM I had to ditch after...)
[21:18] <esben> yeah, but didnt find anything specific
[21:18] <Kimble> ah, oh well.
[21:18] <esben> or that I already knew
[21:18] <qdk> guntbert: hehe... years ago I learn to use chown -R the hard way. :-D
[21:18] <CharminTheMoose> Exxon, I'm confused, are you saying that gmail is causing the characters glitching out in the save dialog box?
[21:19] <gribouille> hi
[21:19] <Kimble> esben: how about powertop?
[21:19] <esben> thats the one reporting 20 W
[21:19] <wendico> buf i though ubuntu installs automatic the wifi cards
[21:19] <wendico> cant i donwload the driver?
[21:19] <esben> But I can try to use some of the stuff it can do
[21:19] <Kimble> what does it suggest you do to reduce power?
[21:19] <gribouille> when I do sudo apt-get update, I get the following error message : "http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found"
[21:20] <mattgyver> gribouille, either its a bad ppa or its currently down
[21:20] <mattgyver> gribouille, to get around it go to your Software sources and remove that, or you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:21] <gribouille> mattgyver, http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu/dists/ doesn't have an entry for oneiric
[21:21] <Exxon> CharminTheMoose, no ; what ever the content you simply can save it ..there is no glitch stuff
[21:21] <esben> I set all the tuneable to Good
[21:22] <esben> lets see :p
[21:22] <newbridge> thanks mattgyver, but it seems as it doesnt work anymore in 11.10 :(
[21:22] <mattgyver> newbridge, :( sorry to hear that man
[21:22] <Kimble> I found that Powertop's tuneables didn't always stick - you may have to implement them manually.
[21:23] <newbridge> hmm iam already thinking of simply droping by an script, that i simply activate over ssh-connection to the machine i want to support.
[21:23] <newbridge> like
[21:23] <gribouille> when I try to start gtk applications like gvim or audacity, I get the following error message : "ERROR:accessible.c:556:spi_accessible_construct: assertion failed"
[21:23] <mattgyver> gribouille, not really sure but the repo is timing out so its preventing you from updating your sources.  If there is no oneiric then its elsewhere or in ubuntus partner repo but thats just a guess on my part
[21:23] <wendico> how to install new wifi card?
[21:24] <mattgyver> wendico, a pretty loaded question which requires more information such as make/model.  Some are supported out of the box so maybe you can just plug and play.
[21:24] <EvilResistance> wendico, go into SYstem > Administration > Hardware Drivers (i think that's what it is)
[21:24] <EvilResistance> wendico, see if there's anything there for that wifi card
[21:26] <Exxon> gribouille, file the bug :((
[21:26] <Izmael> hola
[21:26] <chemaher76> hola
[21:26] <Izmael> http://tinfoilhat.shmoo.com/ is good
[21:28] <bennygtr34> hi i have a question about fedora, i have been using ubuntu and thought i'd try fedora for a while. ctrl+c doesnt give me uppercase c... any ideas why?
[21:29] <wendico> mattgyver evilresistance : not supported out the box since i plug and it is not working, nothing in Hardware Drivers for my network, only for drivers. It is a Blueway N9200 USB card (seems to have the rt2800 chipset) what to do to make it work?
[21:30] <bennygtr34> scratch that.... i mean shift+c anyway
[21:30] <wendico> only graphic drivers in Hardware Drivers* ^^ evilresistance
[21:31] <mattgyver> wendico, I have no idea if it will work cuz its a kinda old way of going about things, but you could maybe look into using ndiswrapper.  In the day it was used to basically wrap windows drivers for wireless cards, im poking around though.
[21:31] <mattgyver> wendico, likely there is an easier way though but it was just a thought
[21:31] <Sugitime> I have some files my app creates. How can I set them so that they get no larger than 100mb?
[21:32] <Sugitime> They arent system logs
[21:32] <wendico> mattgyver: nevertheless i just bought that cards, and im pissed about ubuntu not installing by default, should i just swap and buy a different ones? are my new rt2800 so dificult to make to work in ubuntu?
[21:33] <Exxon> wendico, !wireless
[21:33] <wendico> !wireless
[21:34] <Timewarper> !wireless
[21:34] <esben> I forgot, how is it I do a dist upgrade from oneiric to precise?
[21:34] <mattgyver> wendico, http://forum.aircrack-ng.org/index.php?topic=5755.0 take a look at that
[21:34] <Guest67345> wendico: You can't take it back and exchange it for one you might like better?
[21:34] <mattgyver> wendico, with newer hardware sometimes have to poke and prod but theres generally some way of making it work.
[21:35] <wendico> Guest67345 i do like my card, there is no better for the price , i just dont like ubuntu not knowing how to use this card
[21:35] <wendico> lol
[21:35] <wendico> nevertheless, thank you very much for your help
[21:35] <Exxon> mattgyver, he don't have a internet on that ..how can we probe
[21:35] <wendico> i will just buy a different ones
[21:36] <gzy> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu 11.10, but i'm getting severe graphics glitches when i boot the installer. Is it possible that it's running compiz by default?
[21:37] <mattgyver> Exxon, linked mostly for reference for some general ideas, not so much to follow
[21:37] <esben> gzy: maybe try to switch to a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F1) then: DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace and switch back to the installer (Ctrl+Alt+F7)
[21:38] <Exxon> mattgyver, ask him to paste the output of the lsusb and then we can know what to follow indeed
[21:38] <gzy> esben:  thanks, I'll try that
[21:38] <wendico> i know it may be offtopic but anyone can help me to choose a new wireless usb-cheap-working out of the box-mode monitor enabled network card?
[21:39] <Guest67345> wendico: What card is it?
[21:40] <mattgyver> Exxon, I think you just did :)
[21:40] <wendico> i bought 2x 150MB rt2800 usb wireless card (2watts), i need something similar but working out of the box with ubuntu and no more than 35euros expensive
[21:42] <gribouille> there is a dependency problem in ubuntu: I had to install ubuntu-desktop to be able to run gvim and audacity
[21:44] <CrackerJack> hello
[21:45] <wendico> i bought this wifi card: http://www.opirata.com/adaptador-wifi-rt3070-15dbi-blueway-n9200-p-7135.html i though it was rt2800 but i may be mistaking, any help to make that card work on ubuntu?
[21:45] <CrackerJack> does any one knows were i can find a shekk extension for gnome shell that can mute an unmute the sound
[21:45] <CrackerJack> does any one knows were i can find a shell extension for gnome shell that can mute an unmute the sound
[21:47] <CrackerJack> any one
[21:48] <Exxon> wendico, modprobe rt3070
[21:48] <wendico> exxon, that was my foult right? to use rt2800?
[21:48] <ubernoob> hi
[21:49] <Exxon> wendico, np just use the previous one
[21:49] <CrackerJack> Exxon, were i can find a shell extension for gnome shell that can mute an unmute the sound
[21:49] <Exxon> CrackerJack, please ask the session, thanks
[21:50] <CrackerJack> does any one knows were i can find a shell extension for gnome shell that can mute an unmute the sound?
[21:50] <ubernoob> Has anyone else had their keyboard occasionally freeze up, stop working and refuse to respond to anything other than "alt+ctrl+delete"?
[21:50] <home> hi
[21:50] <ubernoob> I've never experienced this before I upgraded to U11.10
[21:50] <BluesKaj> !patience > CrackerJack
[21:51] <ubernoob> I've googled for info on the problem, but don't see any solutions or even much detail as to the potential cause.
[21:51] <tezontle> hello
[21:51] <DeltaEpsilon> I am in  love with gnome3 + ubuntu . what do I do|?
[21:51] <wendico> Exxon : rt3070 FATAL: module not found
[21:51] <ertyiuy> helo
[21:52] <ertyiuy> there
[21:52] <ertyiuy> anyone ?
[21:52] <wendico> battery critical, another day more! thank you everybody
[21:52] <ertyiuy> what's the default runlevel on ubuntu ?
[21:52] <ubernoob> ertyiuy, conducting a seance?
[21:52] <DarkStar1> I just installed ubuntu 11.10 for the 1st time since 10.10. I have a problem. When I click on the ubuntu logo on the dock. I see nothing
[21:53] <guntbert> !runlevel | ertyiuy
[21:53] <Exxon> wendico, my friend we really require the real module loaded;           type in really no intenet connection reqiured in the pc/laptop just write down and write it down only the usb of the wireless module no.
[21:53] <ertyiuy> can you speak english first ? ubuntulog
[21:53] <ertyiuy> ubernoob:
[21:53] <guntbert> !enter | ertyiuy
[21:53] <timothy> UNITY IS TRASH BRING BACK GNOME 2.32!
[21:53] <timothy> UNITY IS TRASH BRING BACK GNOME 2.32!
[21:53] <FloodBot1> timothy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:53] <ertyiuy> well
[21:53] <timothy> UNITY IS TRASH BRING BACK GNOME 2.32!
[21:53] <ertyiuy> what is the default run level on ubuntu ?
[21:54] <ertyiuy> when you start the pc
[21:54] <escott> !runlevel | ertyiuy
[21:54] <ertyiuy> would you please stop pollute escott
[21:54] <timothy> UNITY IS TRASH, EVERYONE MOVE TO OPENBOX
[21:54] <timothy> UNITY IS TRASH, EVERYONE MOVE TO OPENBOX
[21:54] <FloodBot1> timothy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:54] <escott> ertyiuy, mine is currently 2
[21:55] <ertyiuy> voila that"'s my question
[21:55] <Exxon> timothy, let us know what the problem with openbox
[21:55] <ertyiuy> i simply want to make sure
[21:55] <ertyiuy> i m also runing on 2
[21:55] <ertyiuy> now my question is
[21:56] <guntbert> ertyiuy: it doesn't really matter, they don't make a difference
[21:56] <ubernoob> Anyone else had their keyboard stop working in Unity (Ubuntu 11.10) and have to resort to logging out and in again?
[21:56] <timothy> ubernoob
[21:56] <ubernoob> timothy?
[21:56] <ertyiuy> here /etc/rc2.d/ comparing a red heart version
[21:56] <timothy> after a boot up does your mouse freeze for like1-2 minutes?
[21:57] <inashdeen> hi, how do i make Open jdk works well with chromium
[21:57] <ertyiuy> i can only see start daemon not killing daemon
[21:57] <ertyiuy> is that normal ?
[21:57] <Exxon> ertyiuy, can we have you hardware specification
[21:57] <ertyiuy> i mean when you do a shutdown -r now
[21:57] <timothy> who here is using debain w/ openbox?
[21:58] <timothy> (crunchbox linux)
[21:58] <escott> ertyiuy, redhat takes a more traditional approach to the runlevels, but that would seem normal for a process you start at runlevel 2 and dont stop until runlevel 6
[21:58] <ertyiuy> the system shutdown brutally ?
[21:58] <Myrtti> timothy: this is Ubuntu channel, not Debian or Crunchbox
[21:58] <ubernoob> hmm, do Bash aliases only work within the DE that you created them in?
[21:59] <ertyiuy> yeah i know i m simply comparing the red hat runlevel 6 to ubuntu runlevel 2
[21:59] <timothy> crunchbox linux ftw!
[21:59] <ertyiuy> when you compare both /etc/rc2.d/ folder on red hat you can see
[22:00] <ertyiuy> all services start during server startup
[22:01] <Exxon> ertyiuy, how come the runlevel 6 of red-hat be run level 2 of ubuntu
[22:01] <ertyiuy> and also its stop all services properly basing on that file
[22:01] <thinker_> hi
[22:01] <ertyiuy> sorry i think i made a mistake
[22:01] <ertyiuy> i compare runlevel 2 ubuntu with 5 red hat
[22:02] <Exxon> ertyiuy, stop wasting your's and our time..please
[22:02] <benbloom> is there a way to lock up my xorg settings so that the system doesnt attempt to autodetect/configure monitors with every startup?
[22:02] <ertyiuy> what file this /etc/rc2.d contains ?
[22:03] <sskalnik> How do I kill a telnet session?
[22:03] <nelson777br> hello, I'm trying to run apache2 -S but I got the "apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}" message. Anyone knows how to fix that ?
[22:03] <sskalnik> Tried ^Z, ^C, ^Q
[22:04] <DarkStar1> I'm goingto remove unity and  put gnome 3 on
[22:04] <inashdeen> bump
[22:04] <DarkStar1> What's G3 like?
[22:04] <thinker_> @ sskalnik sudo killall telnet
[22:05] <projekt26> it's kinda like pumpkin pie but slightly less orange
[22:05] <mzaza> I just deleted a project files I have been working on for days using rm command!!! Is there a way I can revcover it back????
[22:05] <DarkStar1> projekt26: That good eh?
[22:05] <projekt26> ^
[22:05] <sskalnik>  thinker_ thanks!
[22:05] <sskalnik> Also, telnet miku.acm.uiuc.edu
[22:06] <Exxon> benbloom, vesa (default) drivers will load always ; if you have installed some other drivers like nvidia it will automatically configure and boot it up if you want to blacklist drivers that you what
[22:06] <mzaza> instead of writing rm *~ i wrote rm * ~ ! Anyway to recover files back???
[22:06] <thinker_> yeah, no problem
[22:06] <ertyiuy> if you don't want to waste your time simply not present here, stop give me advice to passing my time Exxon
[22:06] <ertyiuy> to make things clear
[22:07] <mzaza> thinker_: any ideas? I would really appreciate your help?
[22:07] <benbloom> k. i think that helps Exxon
[22:07] <thinker_> mmmmm
[22:07] <Exxon> ertyiuy, i really don't want to argue.. i that helps
[22:07] <thinker_> what type of filesystem are you formated to?
[22:07] <mzaza> thinker_: ext4
[22:08] <ertyiuy> really appreciate your sence of support Exxon
[22:08] <auronandace> !test
[22:08] <afidegnum> hello, pls I gconf-edit is not available in my startup
[22:08]  * RaTTuS|BIG Humps kaffien
[22:08] <afidegnum> what do I do?
[22:08] <thinker_> i'm really not quite sure with ext4
[22:09] <thinker_> with ext2 and 3 i used fdisk
[22:09] <oh586f> #test
[22:09] <auronandace> can someone please kick RaTTuS|BIG (i think he is a bot that responds to !test)
[22:09]  * RaTTuS|BIG Humps someone
[22:09] <mzaza> thinker_: Can't I try that with ext4?
[22:09] <Emiru> my screen goes totally black (luminosity to the very minimum) when I log in, I get the brightness back with a keyboard combination, is there a way to disable that  black screen ?
[22:09] <thinker_> i suppose
[22:09] <thinker_> i'm googling it for you now
[22:09] <mzaza> thinker_: OK, what attributes should I pass to fdisk?
[22:10] <thinker_> this gets really complicated, you have to go through the disk sectors and "revive" them
[22:10] <thinker_> here: http://carlo17.home.xs4all.nl/howto/undelete_ext3.html
[22:10] <mzaza> thinker_: OK, thanks alot =)
[22:11] <afidegnum> hello, what do I do?
[22:11] <thinker_> you'll be looking to use a program called dd
[22:11] <chz|bacon> hey guys. i'm having some software raid issues. anyone here with some experience willing to help me out?
[22:11] <escott> mzaza, the most important thing when trying to recover data is to remount the affected partition ro immediately
[22:11] <thinker_> afidgnum.... what are you trying to do, again?
[22:13] <thinker_> sorry chz dunno much bout RAID
[22:13] <ViaNocturna> mzaza, i recovered loads of stuff about 5 days ago with PhotoRec, should look it up, might work for ya
[22:14] <thinker_> is photorec opensource?
[22:14] <chz|bacon> thinker_: no problem. i'm just trying to get grub2 to install, and i must be doing something wrong, because it won't.
[22:14] <rougy> What's photorec
[22:14] <escott> chz|bacon, on what kind of raid are you trying to install grub?
[22:14] <thinker_> sweet it is
[22:14] <ViaNocturna> thinker_, photorec is a recovery program for linux its cli and opensource
[22:14] <chz|bacon> escott: software raid
[22:15] <auronandace> can someone please kick RaTTuS|BIG (i think he is a bot that responds to !test)
[22:15]  * RaTTuS|BIG Humps someone
[22:15] <thinker_> it's file recovery http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[22:15] <bazhang> RaTTuS|BIG, stop that
[22:15] <escott> chz|bacon, which one? mdadm? and what raid level
[22:15] <thinker_> the google description threw me off, sounded proprietary
[22:15] <bazhang> !test
[22:15]  * RaTTuS|BIG Humps DJones
[22:15] <ViaNocturna> thinker_, i got to admit, it works like magic, highly recommended
[22:16] <chz|bacon> escott: 11.04, mdadm (assuming thats what it ships with), raid1
[22:16] <chz|bacon> my partitions are /boot / and swap
[22:16] <thinker_> i'm running it through make right now ;)
[22:17] <chz|bacon> escott: every time i try to install grub2 it says it can't
[22:17] <thinker_> well guys i'm out
[22:17] <escott> chz|bacon, that should be fairly easy to setup. what command are you using to install grub?
[22:17] <ViaNocturna> thinker_, take care
[22:17] <chz|bacon> i've tried to install it on /dev/sda /sda1 and /md0
[22:17] <jmoiron> are there any karmic repos mirrors that are still up?
[22:17] <thinker_> yeah, you too
[22:17] <chz|bacon> i'm just using the standard server cd
[22:18] <bazhang> !eol | jmoiron
[22:18] <bazhang> jmoiron, check the eolupgrades link
[22:18] <inashdeen> Hi, how do i use open jdk plugin with chromium browser
[22:18] <bf4648> Hello....I used ssh to connect to a server and has to entered in a password into the terminal to get connected...I forgot that password...its there a way to view the history of passwords that were entered into the terminal using ubuntu?
[22:18] <escott> chz|bacon, /dev/sda or /dev/sdb is where you should be installing it. and you should have /boot mounted at the time. so what error message is it giving you
[22:18] <escott> bf4648, no
[22:18] <jmoiron> bazhang: thanks but that does not answer my question
[22:19] <jmoiron> i know karmic is eol but i can't dist-upgrade this machine
[22:19] <bazhang> jmoiron, its end of life, so there are none
[22:19] <bf4648> why not escott?
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> jmoiron  start here http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[22:19] <bazhang> jmoiron, just to upgrade is all
[22:19] <escott> bf4648, would you want to use an os the logged passwords?!
[22:20] <jmoiron> MonkeyDust: that seems to be just images
[22:20] <bf4648> nope
[22:20] <bf4648> but is there a way?
[22:20] <escott> bf4648, no there is not. dont forget your passwords. use authorized_keys if you are prone to forgetting passwords
[22:20] <escott> bf4648, you should really be using authorized keys anyways
[22:21] <afidegnum> hello, do I need to be in a root mode before running the configuration editor ?
[22:21] <bf4648> true but I didn't set up the ssh connection...it requires a password
[22:21] <afidegnum> I typed gcong-editor but nothing is launched. what od I do ?
[22:21] <auronandace> !root | afidegnum
[22:21] <ubernoob> anyone here using GNOME 3? do you know why aliases defined for terminal, within Unity, don't work within Terminal in Gnome? even though it's the same user/machine etc? does it save a separate profile?
[22:22] <escott> afidegnum, no you should not be root when using gconf/dconf-editor. also it is dconf-editor for 11.10
[22:22] <chz|bacon>  escott error cannot install grub2
[22:22] <escott> chz|bacon, can you !paste the entire output
[22:22] <escott> !paste | chz|bacon
[22:23] <afidegnum> escott: it s not running
[22:23] <escott> ubernoob, different window managers
[22:23] <afidegnum> is there another method of accessing it ?
[22:23] <chz|bacon> escott: not sure how i can exactly paste the output it's on a different machine
[22:23] <ubernoob> escott, I didn't know the window manager was responsible for that, wow.
[22:24] <escott> ubernoob, what other application has global access to keystrokes and mouse clicks?
[22:24] <Masteris> Who can help for catalyst driver low performance with ati 69xx graphic card ?
[22:24] <Masteris> please
[22:24] <escott> chz|bacon, if you shell into that server you can copy and paste
[22:24] <chz|bacon> escott: right, but i can't boot the machine
[22:25] <BadCodSmell> How do I get a shell from tru ubuntu?
[22:25] <ubernoob> escott, never really thought of it like that. I just assumed that the aliases I define in bash were stored in profiles somewhere
[22:25] <bazhang> what is tru ubuntu BadCodSmell
[22:26] <ViaNocturna> BadCodSmell, do you mean the terminal?
[22:26] <BadCodSmell> yes the term, try ubuntu
[22:26] <ubernoob> like browser favourites.
[22:27] <ViaNocturna> BadCodSmell, just so im right, you want to open a terminal?
[22:27] <BadCodSmell> Yes
[22:27] <BadCodSmell> apparently it's installed
[22:28] <BadCodSmell> But the menu is fisherprice TM
[22:28] <ViaNocturna> BadCodSmell, if you have 11.10 you hit the Windows Key, and type terminal and click on the icon
[22:28] <escott> ubernoob, they are saved in dconf which is where desktop settings are saved
[22:29] <chz|bacon> BadCodSmell: ctrl+alt+t
[22:29] <chz|bacon> or what ViaNocturna said
[22:29] <BadCodSmell> I don't want to do that, it looks like it will just select trash
[22:30] <BadCodSmell> ctrlaltt works thanks
[22:30] <chz|bacon> np
[22:30] <escott> chz|bacon, the other approach would be to try and install grub to /dev/sda but tell it to use /dev/sda1 as the boot partition (ie remount the underyling device) in essence splitting the raid
[22:31] <auronandace> can someone please kick RaTTuS|BIG (i think he is a bot that responds to !test)
[22:31]  * RaTTuS|BIG Humps someone
[22:31] <chz|bacon> i did tell it to use /dev/sda1 and i get the same error escott
[22:31] <auronandace> bazhang: thanks
[22:31] <escott> chz|bacon, there are some advantages to do that, in that you can setup the mbr on disk1 to boot off of sda1, and the mbr on disk 2 to boot off of sdb1, and then mirror the boot partition
[22:31] <chz|bacon> also i'd like to have grub2 on both disks so if one fails the other will still boot
[22:31] <escott> chz|bacon, what is the exact comand you are using
[22:32] <chz|bacon> escott: i'm not i'm just walking through the installer
[22:32] <ubuntu> bite
[22:32] <chz|bacon> part way through the install right now
[22:32] <msr_> مرحيا
[22:33] <chz|bacon> escott: should i save sanity and just get an inexpensive controller card?
[22:33] <the_3f_rule> Anyone want to take a swing at a xubuntu question?
[22:33] <chz|bacon> i had this problem way back with 6.10 also
[22:33] <chz|bacon> ended up ditching the software raid idea then
[22:34] <DarkStar1> Gus I hve a problem with my UI. Whenever I click on the ubuntu logo in 10.10 I get nothing. I want to be able to select from installed apps
[22:34] <DarkStar1> Guys*
[22:34] <escott> chz|bacon, id like to know exactly what command you are typing. a lot of times people get confused
[22:34] <DarkStar1> sorry I meant 11.1
[22:35] <DarkStar1> 11.10*
[22:35] <msr_> اريد تعريف كارت الشاشه هذا
[22:35] <chz|bacon> ok escott i'll let you know shortly
[22:35] <msr_> Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
[22:35] <rougy> What exactly is kubuntu
[22:36] <rougy> Also, how do I upgrade to Oneiric Onceloy
[22:36] <rougy> Also, how do I upgrade to Oneiric Oncelot
[22:36] <xangua> !kubuntu | rougy
[22:36] <bazhang> !upgrade > rougy
[22:36] <the_3f_rule> Anyone know an easy way to access a nas from xubuntu
[22:40] <osse> I'm trying to compile rxvt-unicode from source. ./configure stops when checking for perl suitability. Does anyone know which package(s) I need? I guess something with both 'perl' and 'dev' in the name, but I've installed all I think sound relevant
[22:42] <DarkStar1> Would love to give this unity a try but It's a hindrance at the moment
[22:42] <lazarus_> where are gconf strings stored for desktop setting
[22:42] <lazarus_> s
[22:43] <santonio> Hi, I've recently sent in my Thinkpad for repairs and got it back (I kept the hard drive so that I wouldn't lose the data on it). But now, when I try to log in, it wouldn't let me. When I tried accessing my home directory through a liveCD, I only see Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop and a README.txt telling me to run ecryptfs-mount-private
[22:43] <santonio> I've looked up the issue online and many of the first few results said that I should add something about tmpfs to /etc/fstab but that didn't help any
[22:44] <santonio> I have no idea what's wrong and how to fix it and I was hoping somebody could help me get access to my data back
[22:44] <santonio> This is on Ubuntu 10.04
[22:45] <ViaNocturna> santonio, here is a tutorial on it, although its a few versions old it should still be relevant https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[22:45] <santonio> In case it matters, when I originally installed Ubuntu 10.04, I didn't check off any /home encryption options so this whole ecryptfs issue is a complete surprise to me
[22:45] <santonio> It's not just the .Private directory within my home but my whole home directory
[22:46] <santonio> And I just tried the instructions on that page so it didn't do me any good
[22:46] <santonio> All it did was mount a directory containing the two files I listed
[22:46] <santonio> I can't even log into my accounts so I'm doing this from a liveCD
[22:46] <santonio> environment
[22:48] <ViaNocturna> santonio, let me see what i can find
[22:49] <ViaNocturna> santonio, is this any use at all?: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/04/introducing-ecryptfs-recover-private.html
[22:49] <escott> santonio, did you read the README? and follow the instructions there about running the mount-private command
[22:49] <santonio> I did. All it did was give me a directory containing the two aforementioned files
[22:49] <bennygtr34> anyone know how to install songbird onto fedora? I know this is a ubuntu site but cant seem to join fedora chat
[22:50] <santonio> And all these tutorials keep saying that it's for recovering my ~/Private directory, not my whole home
[22:50] <santonio> Does it matter?
[22:50] <escott> santonio, its the same in principle. for the entire home the ~/.Private is loop mounted back on top of /home/username
[22:51] <santonio> I guess I'll download the 11.04 ISO to try VN's link
[22:55] <santonio> Actually
[22:55] <Exxon> bennygtr34, i don't use fedora.. http://fedoraunity.org/Members/realz/how-to-install-songbird-on-fedora
[22:55] <santonio> I just tried the directions at EncryptedPrivateDirectory again
[22:55] <santonio> Because the first time around, I didn't mount with the .Private directory as the first directory argument
[22:56] <santonio> Now I get an error because the /media/whatever/home/santonio/.Private doesn't exist
[23:02] <dalek_> Is there any way to find out which "section" of a document you are looking at in Libre Office? I see no indication of current section number anywhere on the status bar or navigator... Anyone know?
[23:02] <Ghostx562> Herro, I'm Trying To Make VLC My Default Media Player For Music, Videos, etc. How Can I Accomplish This?
[23:03] <Hilarie> Linux (2.4.x/2.6.x) does that include ubuntu? (picking a wifi card)
[23:03] <Hilarie> here is the link http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS036H-Upgraded-Wireless-Long-Rang/dp/B000QYGNKQ/ref=pd_cp_pc_3
[23:03] <ViaNocturna> Ghostx562, click the gears icon at the top right of the screen and then select System Settings, then under System Info go to Default Applications
[23:03] <ViaNocturna> Ghostx562, this is if you have Ubuntu 11.10
[23:03] <Hilarie> this "* Plug-and-Play Compatible with windows 98SE, 2000, Millennium, XP and Linux"
[23:04] <Exxon> Hilarie, when you modprobe is it rtl8187
[23:04] <Ghostx562> Ok I Got It, But Some Videos Still Open Up Under Movie Player, And I Can't See Any Video, Can I Remove The Movie Player Thing?
[23:04] <Hilarie> Exxon looking to buy it, gotta go, pm me and my bnc will save it, if you could
[23:05] <ViaNocturna> Ghostx562, you can't see any video, not for VLC either?
[23:05] <Exxon> Hilarie, can you modeprobe
[23:06] <Ghostx562> ViaNocturna, I Can See It On VLC.
[23:06] <Exxon> Hilarie, modprobe rtl8187
[23:06] <Exxon> Hilarie, should not return anything if does let me know
[23:07] <ViaNocturna> Ghostx562, well thats alright then, I think you are safe to remove the default Movie Player
[23:07] <Ghostx562> ViaNocturna, Will I Be Able To Remove It Via Ubuntu Software Center? On 11.10?
[23:08] <Exxon> Hilarie, stay with with me i can help you
[23:08] <ViaNocturna> Ghostx562, yes if you look for Movie Player and the one that has a green tick you can remove
[23:08] <ViaNocturna> Ghostx562, inside Ubuntu Software Center
[23:09] <ViaNocturna> Ghostx562, but btw, you have restricted-extras?
[23:10] <santonio> ViaNocturna: I just tried the long way in the first link you gave me. I got the Mounted eCryptfs message but when I sudo ls /home/santonio, I get a wall of files called ECRYPTFS_FENK_ENCRYPTED.<stuff>
[23:10] <escott> santonio, you will have to be more specific about what is currently in your $HOME and what the README says in the instructions.
[23:10] <santonio> Err, FNEK
[23:11] <escott> santonio, if your $HOME has folders like that then just issue the ecryptfs mount command to mount /home/santonio onto /home/santonio
[23:11] <Exxon> dalek_, do you have to find the document that you have saved in the libere office ..that so
[23:11] <Emiru> any way to boot ubuntu automatically unless I hit shift to get Grub menu at the boot ?
[23:11] <furu> anyone know the easiest way to set up dlna from ubuntu to my samsung smart tv?
[23:12] <santonio> escott: I have Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop and a README.txt that says: THIS DIRECTORY HAS BEEN UNMOUNTED TO PROTECT YOUR DATA. From the command lin, run: ecryptfs-mount-private
[23:12] <MonkeyDust> Emiru  hitting shift to get to grub is not the normal way
[23:12] <Ghostx562> ViaNocturna, I Think So
[23:12] <santonio> escott: What do you mean? Do you mean `mount -t ecryptfs /home/santonio /home/santonio`?
[23:12] <Emiru> MonkeyDust: I know, but is there a way, to make it so, and when I dont hit shift ubuntu boots automatically ?
[23:13] <Exxon> MonkeyDust, hey! that's abnormal grub boot itself don't have to hit anything
[23:13] <Ghostx562> ViaNocturna, Yes I Have Restricted Extras Installed
[23:13] <MonkeyDust> Exxon  please explain that to Emiru
[23:14] <Emiru> Exxon: Right now I dont have to hit anything
[23:14] <Emiru> but there is a ~7 secs. wait if I dont hit enter on ubuntu
[23:14] <dalek_> Exxon, is there any way at all to tell which section number I am looking at in a document? I can't see any indicator anywhere. I have a several hundred page Libre Office writer document with multiple sections and it seems to be pure guess work to try and find the section number you want.... surely this can't be right?
[23:15] <escott> santonio, just type ecryptfs-mount-private what does it say
[23:15] <MonkeyDust> Emiru  you just want to change the time out?
[23:15] <Emiru> MonkeyDust if possible yes
[23:15] <escott> Emiru, /etc/default/grub and then rerun update-grub
[23:15] <Emiru> escott: Thank you !
[23:16] <EddieBluh> howdy, anyone about who has got their mbp 7,1 up at running with oneiric?
[23:16] <escott> !mbp
[23:16] <CaptAnon> Hello, How come kill does not work when I enter the PID? and also how to I bring a command to fg if it has been opened by another terminal?
[23:16] <Exxon> Emiru, why do you have to hit shift..
[23:16] <santonio> escott: ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[23:16] <santonio> =/
[23:16] <Exxon> anyway
[23:16] <escott> !macbook | EddieBluh
[23:17] <escott> santonio, before or after asking for the passphrase
[23:17] <Emiru> Exxon: I dont. But when I did not have grub, after reinstalling Windows, I had to hit shift to choose an OS. But now that everything is ok, I dont hit anything, i get to the boot menu right away, and my question was, can I boot ubuntu without passing through the boot menu
[23:17] <santonio> escott: Before
[23:18] <escott> santonio, and what are the folder in $HOME all the encrypted FNEK stuff?
[23:18] <santonio> Pardon?
[23:18] <CaptAnon> !test
[23:19] <santonio> I followed the directions on the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering%20Your%20Data%20Manually page under the Live CD method
[23:19] <escott> santonio, in the folder that you are currently in are the filenames encrypted?
[23:19] <santonio> Yes
[23:19] <CaptAnon> !test | CaptAnon
[23:20] <santonio> Do I redo it with filename encryption set to "n"?
[23:20] <Exxon> Emiru, you want to install the grub that what you insist
[23:20] <santonio> I wasn't sure what the settings were so I just chose y
[23:20] <CaptAnon> #test
[23:20] <EddieBluh> Im looking at the 7,1 wiki page and it doesn't have any info on screenbrightness control..other soutions seem outdated
[23:20] <escott> santonio, and you had trouble with this line: sudo mount -t ecryptfs /home/username/.Private /home/username/Private because $HOME/.Private doesn't exist, because $HOME is where the encrypted data lies
[23:20] <CaptAnon> #test
[23:21] <santonio> escott: I had trouble with /media/<disk>/home/username/.Private as the first dir argument
[23:21] <Dr_Azil> I'm about to burn my Ubuntu download onto a CD. Last time I tried this the CD was not booting. I thought maybe I did something wrong. All I did was burn the Ubuntu file onto the disc. Is there anything special I should do?
[23:21] <escott> santonio, so take off the .Private at the end of that. thats all im saying
[23:21] <blz> Dr_Azil, how exactly are you burning the CD?  You have to burn the image file to the cd, not make a filesystem with the .iso file on it
[23:22] <CaptAnon> Well you need to burn it as a disc image, you did that right, Dr_Azil
[23:22] <santonio> escott: I did that the first time. Only got a directory with the two files I mentioned
[23:22] <escott> Dr_Azil, you should also check the md5sums to make sure what you downloaded wasn't corrupted
[23:22] <bennygtr34> dr azil.  i couldnt install from the cd... i got the splash screen but didnt work. i used the alternat install cd
[23:22] <blz> CaptAnon, we don't know that he did that right...
[23:22] <escott> !md5sum | Dr_Azil
[23:23] <CaptAnon> blz I meant to put a question mark at the end of that sentence.
[23:23] <blz> aah
[23:23]  * QuackQuacker hugs ubuntu
[23:23] <santonio> *sigh* I just tried again without filename encryption
[23:23] <escott> santonio, do you know what your passphrase is
[23:23] <Exxon> Dr_Azil, may be the vendor of the hardware don't support the cd or you have burned the cd very fast
[23:23] <santonio> Still the same wall of files called ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.fksjdlfkj
[23:23] <CaptAnon> Dr_Azil,  What soft ware did you use to burn the disc?
[23:24] <santonio> escott: Yes. It's the same as my login so I'm sure I have it right
[23:24] <Dr_Azil> I used what ever was built into Windows 7
[23:24] <Exxon> Dr_
[23:24] <Dr_Azil> And when I stuck the CD in, it was giving me the normal installation options
[23:24] <escott> santonio, check if there is a folder /media/disk/home/.ecryptfs
[23:25] <santonio> escott: There is
[23:25] <Dr_Azil> But when I reboot the computer it started in Windows.
[23:25] <robin0800> Dr_Azil: not sure that can burn iso's
[23:25] <blz> Dr_Azil, I suspect you built a filesystem and put the .iso on it
[23:25] <CaptAnon> Ok so that part must be done right
[23:25] <Dr_Azil> I unzipped the Ubuntu download onto the CD
[23:25] <escott> santonio, ok. im going off of memory, that might be where the ciphertext is
[23:26] <Exxon> Dr_Azil, use iso burner instead
[23:26] <CaptAnon> Dr_Azil,  try using something like deamon tools
[23:26] <Dr_Azil> Alright
[23:26] <robin0800> Dr_Azil: wrong you must burn it as an iso
[23:26] <santonio> escott: So, what do you want me to do?
[23:26] <QuackQuacker> burn the image
[23:26] <Dr_Azil> Will come back with you in a sec
[23:26] <blz> Dr_Azil, do this:  http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b/windowsexperience/archive/2009/04/13/burn-iso-images-natively-in-windows-7.aspx
[23:26] <escott> santonio, what is the long term plan here?
[23:27] <CaptAnon> Hello, How come kill does not work when I enter the PID? and also how to I bring a command to fg if it has been opened by another terminal?
[23:27] <blz> Dr_Azil, do not do this:  http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Burn-a-CD-or-DVD-in-Windows-Explorer
[23:27] <netboy10> Hello. Can someone tell me which version of lubuntu is LTS?
[23:27] <Dr_Azil> That's what I didi xP
[23:27] <santonio> I clearly can't log in anymore since something is screwed up, so I just want to scp my files off of the drive and do a reinstall
[23:27] <blz> netboy10, google, bro
[23:27] <santonio> But I can't access the files
[23:27] <diego> Hi, im having problem with my Brightness in ubunto 11.10, can anyone help?
[23:27] <QuackQuacker> captanon did you use pkill
[23:27] <Myrtti> netboy10: AFAIK there is no official LTS release of Lubuntu yet
[23:27] <ViaNocturna> diego, any chance ya got an Intel i5?
[23:28] <netboy10> Thank you
[23:28] <diego> yes
[23:28] <magpii> I keep getting this message whenever i try loading the volume control applet ** (gnome-volume-control-applet:4669): WARNING **: Connection failed, reconnecting...
[23:28] <CaptAnon> QuackQuacker, nope what is that?
[23:28] <magpii> anyone help?
[23:28] <escott> CaptAnon, you can try a different kill signal, HUP usually works and cant be trapped. you should look into screen for migrating terminals
[23:28] <blz> netboy10, oh sorry... I ready "ubuntu" not "lubuntu".  apologies!
[23:28] <ViaNocturna> diego, let me have a look, i know the answer, just a minute
[23:28] <blz> *read
[23:28] <QuackQuacker> CaptAnon im not sure if its on Ubuntu
[23:28] <benbloom> so i broke the cardinal rule of "if it aint broke don't fix it" and installed nvidia drivers for my multiple display desktop (it was working fine before btw) immediately lost all the nice desktop effects (transparency etc) and then when i uninstalled the drivers the problem persists. help! transparency is crucial to my configuration
[23:28] <QuackQuacker> Usage: pkill [-SIGNAL] [-fvx] [-n|-o] [-P PPIDLIST] [-g PGRPLIST] [-s SIDLIST]
[23:28] <QuackQuacker> 	[-u EUIDLIST] [-U UIDLIST] [-G GIDLIST] [-t TERMLIST] [PATTERN]
[23:28] <QuackQuacker> try pkill in your terminal
[23:29] <CaptAnon> I just tried it, It did not work
[23:29] <Dr_Azil> The problem is the file isn't a disc image
[23:29] <escott> santonio, well you could scp the ciphertext and as long as you get the wrapped passphrase file you should be ok, but why don't we just try and fix the "i can't login" issue instead of fighting ecryptfs
[23:29] <Dr_Azil> I downloaded from the Ubuntu site. How do I have the file turned into a disc image?
[23:29] <escott> benbloom, remove your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[23:29] <santonio> escott: How do you propose I do that? I can't log into any accounts which is why I'm on a LiveCD
[23:29] <Exxon> Dr_Azil, did you use ftp, torrent
[23:30] <Dr_Azil> I just used my browser
[23:30] <bcuraboy> good evening
[23:30] <escott> santonio, can you be more specific about not being able to login. you cannot login to the gui? or to a terminal?
[23:30] <benbloom> escott: do i have to restart the computer? or just kdm aftrer that?
[23:30] <escott> benbloom, kdm should be enough
[23:30] <santonio> escott: Either. I type in the account name, tried all possible passwords, and can't log in
[23:30] <CaptAnon> ok I got it, I put "kill -9 PID"
[23:30] <bcuraboy> tell me something.if i'm using gnome-shell 3.2 why can't i install extensions for it?
[23:30] <Exxon> Dr_Azil, never use the brower..it can be minipulated with the isp
[23:30] <robin0800> Dr_Azil: what's its extension?
[23:30] <QuackQuacker> CaptAnon good job
[23:30] <Dr_Azil> Extension?
[23:30] <santonio> Can't log in through the default GNOME interface, or one of the available TTYs
[23:31] <QuackQuacker> have a nice day
[23:31] <bcuraboy> yes,extensions
[23:31] <escott> santonio, what message do you get?
[23:31] <QuackQuacker> .!.\shutdown
[23:31] <santonio> Just authentication failed in GNOME, the TTYs gave me something about missing keys w.r.t. ecryptfs
[23:31] <Exxon> Dr_Azil, you need the ftp..
[23:31] <santonio> Googling the error message is what led me to the fstab editing thing
[23:32] <santonio> But add the tmpfs mounting line to the top of the fstab file didn't do anything
[23:32] <escott> santonio, well that would be problematic. if the base install system cant unwrap the keyfile we definitely arent going to be able to unwrap from the livecd
[23:32] <robin0800> Dr_Azil: what's its extension *.iso it should be
[23:32] <CaptAnon> Thanks QuackQuacker
[23:32] <escott> did you backup the unwrapped passphrase
[23:33] <santonio> escott: ?
[23:33] <bcuraboy> anyone??
[23:33] <santonio> Unwrapped passphrases being...?
[23:33] <magpii> i need help, my sound has just decided to stop working, can someone tell me how i create a log file?
[23:33] <Dr_Azil> This is taking an awful lot more effort than when I last installed Ubuntu
[23:34] <escott>  santonio, ecryptfs uses a long key to encrypt (longer than you can type), your password only unwraps (unencypts) a file that contains the keyfile. so its a log to a safe that has the key to the door
[23:34] <Exxon> Dr_Azil, you need the ftp server of ubuntu             i will also give you that
[23:34] <CaptAnon> So Dr_Azil  How is the burning the disc going?
[23:34] <santonio> And where would I find it? In the /media/disk/home/.ecryptfs directory?
[23:35] <santonio> Because when I installed Ubuntu, I purposely chose not to encrypt anything and let the installer run its course so I didn't get any mount passphrases from it or whatnot
[23:35] <Dr_Azil> What I downloaded from the Ubuntu site isn't a disc image
[23:35] <Dr_Azil> Is there a way I can turn it into one?
[23:36] <shahid_> what have u downloaded Dr_Azil ?
[23:36] <Exxon> Dr_Azil, what ubuntu distro are you trying to download
[23:36] <escott> santonio, evidently something has gone wrong in that process, and your $HOME cannot be decrypted because keys are missing. when you installed it should have asked you to copy the file/write it down somewhere safe
[23:36] <robin0800> Dr_Azil: don't think so
[23:36] <santonio> =/
[23:36] <santonio> I really don't want to lose all my data
 you need to download the .ISO File
[23:37] <Exxon> magpii,   alsamixer
[23:37] <Dr_Azil> No idea how to tell all that, but I got it from here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[23:37] <escott> santonio, you can try some variant of ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase /home/username/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase
[23:38] <escott> santonio, so start looking for that wrapped-passphrase file
[23:38] <Dr_Azil> I just selected ubuntu 10.10 64bit and clicked download
[23:38] <Dr_Azil> The finished download was zipped. I unzipped it and it gave me all the files.
[23:38] <santonio> I have the wrapped-passphrase file
[23:38] <santonio> You asked for the unwrapped-passphrase file
[23:38] <CaptAnon> ok Dr_Azil first off don't use 64bit
[23:39] <escott> santonio, you need to unwrap that wrapped passphrase file. that will provide the encyption key which can be used to mount the rest
[23:39] <CaptAnon> I could not get it working ether same problem you are describing
[23:39] <Dr_Azil> I have a 64 bit machine
[23:39] <CaptAnon> Me too
[23:39] <Dr_Azil> I've installed this same thing onto this same computer once before though
[23:39] <robin0800> Dr_Azil: you don't need to unzip an iso file
[23:39] <Dr_Azil> And then it worked fine
[23:39] <Dr_Azil> Oh :o
[23:39] <Exxon> Dr_Azil,don't unzip it iso image burn to cd , and simply boot it
[23:40] <shahid_> burn it using brasero as an image file
[23:41] <Exxon> shahid_, i simply use k3b i don't trust brasero
[23:41] <magpii> how do i get alsamixer?
[23:41] <escott> santonio, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome gives more info specific to the encrypted home. your keyring is in /home/.ecryptfs and your data is in $HOME/.Private according to this
[23:41] <ViaNocturna> magpii, open a terminal and type alsamixer
[23:42] <shahid_> Exxon k3b is a great app, but i've never had any probs using brasero on a low speed burn at perhaps 4 x
[23:42] <magpii> ok, i got that up, now what?
[23:42] <santonio> I can't seem to unwrap it
[23:42] <santonio> I don't know why
[23:42] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[23:42] <Exxon> shahid_,  no regrets.. :))
[23:42] <santonio> I tried all my passphrase combinations =/
[23:42] <Dr_Azil> OH! :D
[23:42] <Dr_Azil> My cigarettes have arrived. Be right back
[23:42] <escott> santonio, if you cannot unwrap then your data is lost
[23:43] <ViaNocturna> magpii, how do the controls look?
[23:43] <santonio> =/
[23:43] <Tetracomm> Is anyone aware of the problem that causes sound to turn off when you mute it and you can't turn it back on when I try to unmute it?
[23:43] <santonio> escott: Do you know why I can't log in to begin with?
[23:43] <sn00p> HOw can I change my video driver in ubuntu?
[23:43] <sn00p> is that a gui for it?
[23:43] <Tetracomm> I need sound back
[23:43] <Tetracomm> .
[23:43] <escott> santonio, you can backup what you currently have just make sure to backup everything under /home including that .ecryptfs folder. maybe the correct passphrase for your wrapped-passphrase will come to you later
[23:44] <CaptAnon> I don't know if you can change drivers but there is a gui for putting it on
[23:44] <ViaNocturna> Tetracomm, no, it doesnt come back after a restart either?
[23:44] <escott> santonio, perhaps its just a really unlucky disk corruption?
[23:44] <magpii> master front is showing green white and red full bar, same with headphone pcm and front, front mic is empty as well as mic
[23:44] <Exxon> sn00p, before you change some thing in the xorg please back up the xorg..
[23:44] <santonio> escott: I seriously hope that's not the case
[23:45] <santonio> I really really need this data
[23:45] <ViaNocturna> magpii, did this occur after muting aswell?
[23:45] <santonio> It has all my assignments and such on it =/
[23:45] <Tetracomm> ViaNocturna: No, it doesn't.
[23:45] <sn00p> Exxon, right now i'm only working at 800x600 but when I change 1024Xsomething 4:3 it doesn't like it and monitor keeps blanking
[23:45] <CaptAnon> sn00p,  use the program additional drivers
[23:45] <sn00p> CaptAnon, where do I find them at
[23:46] <CaptAnon> do you have gnome do?
[23:46] <CaptAnon> or unity
[23:46] <sn00p> gnome
[23:46] <sn00p> ubuntu 11.10
[23:46] <Exxon> sn00p, CaptAnon is right..follow the instructions..
[23:46] <CaptAnon> just type it into gnome do
[23:46] <Tetracomm> This is Ubuntu 11.10
[23:46] <magpii> there is no volume control on the panel, when i try opening sound in preferences, it gives a message "waiting for sound system to respond", and does nothing, i cannot use the fn keys to raise lower or mute sound either
[23:47] <escott> santonio, since your issue is only with the ability to login and not with the actual install, you can chroot in and create a new user
[23:47] <santonio> How do I do that?
[23:47] <escott> santonio, and that way leave your current system untouched
[23:47] <escott> santonio, in the livecd sudo -i
[23:47] <ViaNocturna> Tetracomm, and magpii, can you try this link? http://dharmendralinuxdiary.blogspot.com/2011/10/ubuntu-1110-sound-problem.html
[23:47] <escott> santonio, then chroot /media/disk /bin/bash
[23:48] <magpii> I have been to here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting and gone through all the steps and still nothing, even though my sound card is clearly there
[23:48] <CaptAnon> How is it going for you sn00p ?
[23:48] <ViaNocturna> magpii, well the link i sent seems to be in response to a few people encountering sound issues on Ubuntu 11.10
[23:49] <magpii> i will try the steps in your link, brb
[23:49] <sn00p> CaptAnon, what do mean type it into gnome?
[23:49] <_katja_> Q. why does it take over a second to cat something from /proc/acpi/battery ?
[23:49] <CaptAnon> There is a program called gnome do
[23:49] <gzy> Have a funny situation. I have a partition with the ubuntu installer and apart from that some garbage on the disk. i almost installed grub, so i'm getting a grub rescue prompt
[23:49] <CaptAnon> I find its the easyest wayt to find things.
[23:49] <gzy> can i make it boot the ubuntu installer image?
[23:49] <Exxon> magpii, lspci -v paste the output to paste bin
[23:49] <trinimoses> HELP !!!!!!!!
[23:49] <sn00p> what does that  have to do with my drivers
[23:50] <trinimoses> my ubuntu box i shutdown to do some work on the ups
[23:50] <trinimoses> and now my netconnection is not working
[23:50] <santonio> escott: Now just run useradd?
[23:50] <Exxon> _katja_, that's normal
[23:51] <escott> santonio, you probably want to use adduser, not familiar with its invocation, was trying to look it up. make sure this user is in the admin group
[23:51] <_katja_> Exxon: i figure that, i'm just wondering what the underlying reason is
[23:51] <escott> santonio, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/2
[23:51] <magpii> exxon- which output?
[23:51] <colloquialismic> herro fellow fanbois
[23:51] <santonio> escott: Will I be able to access my home directory from the new admin account then?
[23:51] <_katja_> Exxon: cat'ing from the ac_adapter takes around 4ms like anything else
[23:51] <escott> santonio, although that tells you the old way
[23:51] <escott> santonio, no
[23:52] <trinimoses> k.. i hve check my /etc/network/interfaces and the settings seem right..
[23:52] <trinimoses> even check the resolv.conf and they all seem right
[23:52] <Exxon> _katja_, i rally hate giving bad news to people ..my nature..
[23:52] <santonio> This is exactly why I didn't want home encryption =_=
[23:53] <colloquialismic> i would like to ask a question. i have recently installed wireshark and all dependencies (sudo aptitude install build-essential automake autoconf libgtk2.0-dev libglib2.0-dev libpcap0.8-dev flex bison) on ubuntu 10.04. i have selected "list the available capture interfaces." however, there are 0 listed interfaces. odd,
[23:53] <ViaNocturna> colloquialismic, are you running it with sudo?
[23:53] <colloquialismic> yes
[23:53] <colloquialismic> wait....
[23:53] <colloquialismic> how do i run an application as root?
[23:53] <ViaNocturna> sudo <name of app>
[23:53] <magpii> ok, here is the output for lspci -v http://codepad.org/f6NE7Ulb
[23:54] <Exxon> colloquialismic, sudo -s
[23:54] <santonio> I think I'll go cry in a corner now
[23:54] <colloquialismic> ok
[23:54] <santonio> Thanks anyways escott
[23:54] <colloquialismic> there we go :)
[23:54] <_katja_> Exxon: it's really not bad news at all, just curious. :) Somewhere along the line is ACPI interfacing with some onboard device that has to take readings and average them over nearly a second or?
[23:54] <colloquialismic> i'm silly ha
[23:54] <ViaNocturna> i thought wireshark was in the repos?
[23:54] <colloquialismic> thank you Exxon and ViaNocturna
[23:54] <colloquialismic> it is...
[23:54] <colloquialismic> which is why i found this weird
[23:55] <escott> santonio, sorry. goodluck, and develop a backup plan. if the encryption doesn't bit you a disk failure will
[23:55] <Exxon> _katja_, so what the conclusion..
[23:55] <santonio> escott: Can't I just reset the password of my account and try to log in that way?
[23:55] <escott> santonio, no because the new password wont be in the keyring for the ecryptfs partition
[23:56] <diego> Hi, i cant change my Ubuntu 11.10 brightness. Can anyone help?
[23:56] <ViaNocturna> diego, did it not work?
[23:56] <simon__> got to go
[23:56] <_katja_> Exxon: i think the conclusion is that i want to go read some more about how ACPI works :)
[23:57] <chz|bacon> diego: which laptop do you have?
[23:57] <magpii> @ViaNocturna I have run the command in the link you gave, I now have sound through my earphone outlet, but the volume control isnt working, and the fn volume on my keyboard only shows the gui volume control working but makes no difference to the sound volume lol
[23:57] <_katja_> thanks :)
[23:57] <Exxon> diego, http://wilmor24.wordpress.com/2010/05/11/change-screen-brightness-from-terminal-ubuntu-10-04/
[23:58] <gbear14275> If I install the chrome.deb package from the chrome site... will it automatically upgrade with new releases (aka, does install repository info?)
[23:58] <xangua> gbear14275: yes
[23:58] <gbear14275> xangua, thanks
[23:58] <escott> gbear14275, no use chromium-browser
[23:58] <chz|bacon> yeah gbear14275
[23:58] <xangua> gbear14275: it adds google's deb repository
[23:58] <rubyplusplus> I have sometimes had to run sudo apt-get -f install after installing chrome
[23:58] <sharpK> is it a bad idea to install new drivers (linux) from nvidia for your card?
[23:59] <ViaNocturna> magpii, right ok, give me one moment
[23:59] <xangua> gbear14275: there is also chromium browser, it's opensource and is already on the ubuntu repository
[23:59] <rubyplusplus> Why chromium instead of chrome?
[23:59] <gbear14275> escott, I'm running into a problem with an unclickable flash settings window... haven't been able to resolve so looking for either a better qa'ed version or something newer.   Was going to install the -dev ppa for chromium and then use chrome when I need something more stable
[23:59] <Exxon> gbear14275, did yo check for ubuntu rep..
[23:59] <colloquialismic> does anyone know of an easy way to setup an irc bouncer?
[23:59] <almoxarife> sharpK: no, done right
[23:59] <colloquialismic> thru ubuntu