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Paimunseems to have worked; "Adding system startup for /etc/init.d/lightdm ..."00:02
PaimunHowever I also got "update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/lightdm missing LSB information" before that00:02
Paimunnot sure if I should worry about that or not00:02
dvanceis the startup script not LSB compliant I wonder?00:03
dvancenot sure what to make of that one00:03
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Paimunwell, thanks for the greeter-hide-users tip, dvance, because that worked fine00:33
Paimunbut lightdm still didn't start up00:33
Paimunin fact I alt+tabbed and looked at the boot log and it says "stopping lightdm" and "stopping gdm"00:33
TVasEyes:w00:37
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Paimun fixed my lightdm issue!02:21
xubuntu062anyone know why the xubuntu installer would hang every time for like 15 mins at laptop-detect ?03:24
oobiei am having issued with xubuntu reading my fuji finepix camera04:16
oobiei tried installing f-spot and changed things in setting manager, now when i plug it it tells me it has seen a device but won't let me see pics04:17
oobieit does show up when i do lsusb04:17
oobieany ideas? please?04:17
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oobilozhellow?04:29
SysiI have no experience with cameras, but you can't import photos with f-spot?04:33
SysiI'm not sure if you should be able to..04:33
oobilozi can't04:34
oobilozi tried it...04:34
oobilozi tried it with gthumb too... no go04:34
oobilozit's all grey04:34
Sysiyou could try gthumb04:34
oobilozi go as far as the menu but... it's greya nd i can't select anything04:34
SysiI heard they removed camera importing support from some app.. I think it was digikam04:35
oobilozwaaah04:35
Sysiwell compiled without support for that04:35
oobilozknow of a way around it?04:36
Sysifirst I'd try different app. like gthumb04:36
oobilozi've tried gthumb04:37
oobilozit's also greyed out there too04:37
oobilozcamera detected:  a photo camera was detected04:39
oobilozbut nothinga fter that04:39
Sysiwait for some time, if nobody pops up you can try #ubuntu04:40
oobilozi am there04:40
oobilozlol04:40
oobilozthank sysi04:40
oobilozat least for listnin and being nice04:40
webbimatoHi! Anyone installed bindfs to xubuntu for controlling local folder/file sharing?06:57
visitor1hi, i have troubles with my xfce desktop, i lost xfce4-panel, i have got it back but the applicaction button on top left is gone07:00
visitor1anybody got a clue how to get it back07:00
visitor1?07:00
TheSheepvisitor1: right-click on the panel, select panel->add07:03
TheSheepvisitor1: find the button on the list and drag it to where you want it07:03
visitor1sorry i probably didnt express me correctly, i need the xfce menu, but it worked the way you tole me, thanks a lot, hope just it is also there after the next reboot lol07:06
visitor1told07:06
xubuntu258my mouse cursor keeps moving when i try to type, any suggestions how t fix it?07:12
baizonnew mouse?07:16
baizonor different usb port07:16
MikeChelenafter changing mouse size with gcursor, the cursor is still small on some windows08:52
oobilozjoin #rendai10:40
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xubuntu187hola12:12
xubuntu187a todos12:12
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urthmoverwhat is the smartest way to install flash these days? (I'm running minimal 11.10 amd64 and xfce4 (just the packages I need)14:20
urthmoverI'm doing the flashplugin-nonfree from apt for now14:21
baizonurthmover: no that way sucks14:23
baizoni installd it14:23
baizonyou have to install i386 libs14:23
urthmoverah ok baizon I'll give that a shot14:24
baizonno no14:24
baizonwait14:24
baizonyou just have to install that package...14:24
baizonurthmover: apt-get install adobe-flashplugin14:25
baizonthat will do it :)14:25
urthmoverok thanks14:26
baizonnp14:26
urthmoversadly after having installed flash  youtube is still complaining about me not having the latest version of flash14:28
baizon?14:28
baizonyou installd the adobe-flashplugin package?14:29
knomeurthmover, did you restart firefox?14:29
urthmoverI'm on chrome14:29
urthmoverand yes I started a new instance once the packages were done installing14:29
urthmoverdo you think it is an issue with running chrome?14:30
urthmoverI'd hate to install firefox just to test it14:30
urthmoverknome baizon do either of you have working flash on youtube today?  if so what browser are you using?14:30
baizonim using firefox14:31
knomeff too14:31
knomegonna hit the shower now ->14:32
baizonhf :)14:32
bozsohi14:58
bozsoam i on the right chanel, if I need help? :D14:58
baizonyes14:58
bozsoI'm new to linux14:58
bozsoand I cant get wifi to work14:59
bozsoI have xubuntu installed on an IBM T20 (900Mhz, 512ram)14:59
bozsowith an external wifi card14:59
bozso(digitus wireless lan cardbus)14:59
bozsoI installed the driver with windows driver intaller15:00
bozsoand I see me home wireless network15:00
bozsobut the password wont work15:00
bozsoit asks again and again for the password, and I entered it correctly15:00
bozsoany ideas?15:00
baizonwhat security? WEP, WPA2, WPA, none?15:00
bozsowpa215:00
baizondoes your wifi card support wpa2?15:01
bozsoyes15:01
bozsoit worked under windows15:01
holsteini remember trying a few different windows drivers, and finally getting one that worked with a strange card i had15:01
bozsoand yes, it's on the box (wpa, wpa2 support)15:02
holsteinyou can try (temporarily) disabling the security just to see that its working15:02
bozsothe driver I installed is the from the cd that came with the card originally15:02
holsteinbozso: right, thats the one i used first as well15:02
bozsohmm I'll try disableing the password then15:04
bozsobut i think the card is working15:04
bozsocan it be, that the password is somehow changed before getting to the routher?15:04
holsteini am allergic to speculation, so this bit of troubleshooting will give you some useful information15:04
holsteinbozso: i dont think so... theres the wpa supplicant though.. i havent had to worry with it for a long time15:05
bozsoholstein: what is the wpa supplicant?15:07
holsteinbozso: its just that... its for wpa, which is what you are going to find out if you are having issues with exclusively15:07
holsteinif it were me.. i would try disabling the security... i would try connecting... i would try with WEP as well... then i would try (if its easy) to connect with a few live CD's and that driver15:08
bozsowell I tried disableing security15:23
bozsowith no security it does not connect, and with wep it does the same, asks for the password over and over again15:23
holsteinyeah, i should have said *if* it works without security, move on the WEP15:24
holsteinanyways.. if you want to tech this out with security disabled, i feel like that will save you some time15:24
bozsothank you :)15:25
bozsoIam going to search for some alternative drivers then15:25
holsteinbozso: what about a native linux one? no dice?15:25
france1159Hi everyone17:46
Paimunhello17:47
france1159i installed Xubuntu and i currently installed Empathy but i don't understand why the graphical theme isn't apply on it.17:47
france1159actually visually i get ... uhm.. the same visual when i run a gtk application in root user.17:48
CiPiUse Pidgin. :)18:02
PaimunThat doesn't solve his problem, CiPi.18:04
CiPiAtleast is better than Emathy.18:04
PaimunI agree, and I use Pidgin myself, but he did ask for help with Empathy.18:06
PaimunAlthough I'm just waiting for Digsby to get a port to Linux, but I think that will happen when HL2 Ep 3 comes out.,...18:06
CiPi:)18:08
Paimunfrance1159, what do you mean by the graphical theme, anyways?18:08
france1159i use pidgin for the moment and i don't want know what is the best. I just would like to know why after installing a Gtk+ software the gtk+ theme of Xfce does not work.18:10
france1159How do i take a screenshot with Xfce (i'm going to show you that) ?18:11
Paimunjust hit alt+print screen on the empathy window18:12
france1159Thanks Paimun.18:12
france1159http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/36/cran02122011191322.png/18:15
Paimunah18:16
Paimundo you mean how it looks like an old gtk 2 program?18:16
france1159Yes18:16
Paimunyeah xfce is not really good with gtk themes I have found out, unless you are usinbg greybird your milage will vary with how things look18:17
Paimunsynaptic looks like trash to me but other programs like Deluge look fine18:17
france1159so, there is no soluce to resolve that ?18:18
PaimunI'm not sure18:19
PaimunI'm rather inexperienced with xubuntu myself so perhaps someone else will have a better answer than I do. And there's always google.18:19
Sysifrance1159: you ened to use theme with gtk3 support or copy gtk3 part from theme that has it18:38
Sysis/ened/need18:38
france1159Sysi, because empathy uses Gtk3 lib ?18:40
Sysiyes18:41
incorrectis there a smarter clock that will give me a calendar? the top bar clock is some what featureless19:25
Sysidatetime-plugin is like that19:25
incorrectis that a separate thing to install, don't see a datetime plugin19:27
Unit193xfce4-datetime-plugin19:28
Sysiyou may need to install it19:28
incorrectoh found it19:28
Unit193Then you'd have to add it to the panel19:28
incorrectduh i am stupid sometimes19:28
SysiI just realized I really like that plugin19:31
incorrectme too19:33
incorrectnearly got all the functionality i liked in gnome2 back19:33
SysiI wish I coudl've get all xfce functionality to gnome219:34
Paimunxfce is pretty close to gnome 2 for me after installing a few things like indicator-multiload and the old disk utility and system monitor19:34
incorrectthat i needed19:35
PaimunI didn't know about the datetime plugin though, thanks19:35
knomebtw guys, #xubuntu-devel is a good place to discuss gnome-xfce things19:35
darkblue_bhi - I just installled an xubuntu system, and am having problems enabling ssh19:39
knomewhat in ssh19:40
darkblue_bits a pre-configured setup, called the OSGeo Live-DVD.. and the keygen has not been done "for security reasons"19:40
darkblue_bhttp://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_FAQ19:40
knomeumm, if it's not xubuntu, we can't help19:40
darkblue_bit is xubuntu, really19:40
darkblue_byou do not want to think about it?19:41
darkblue_bmaybe someone else19:41
knomeyeah, but as they've clearly changed stuff, you should primarily ask them19:41
darkblue_b:-(19:41
knomewell, that's the channel rule, only xubuntu support19:41
knomethat page seems to give you instructions in enabling it19:41
darkblue_bI did that19:41
Sysidarkblue_b: all we know is it works on xubuntu, how they broke it is clearly not xubuntu issue19:42
darkblue_bthey didnt break it, its widely used and popular19:42
darkblue_bif you are not allowed to talk about it, I dont know what to say about that19:42
Sysiif they didn't break ssh, why doesn't it work like on xubuntu? :)19:43
darkblue_bI will confess to you, that I am one of the primary devs on the disk, but I am not familiar with ssh details19:43
darkblue_bthe main guy in charge of that is in New Zealand, and does not use IRC19:43
knomeask him via email or something19:44
knomewe can't really support everything *made out of xubuntu*19:44
darkblue_byou cant talk about it at all, because it is not stock x-ubuntu.. is that the situation ?19:44
darkblue_burgh19:45
Unit193If it's not in the repos, it's not exactly "supported"19:45
darkblue_bI understand its not supported, I didnt expect that it would be forbidden to discuss at all19:46
Sysiwell, this is support channel19:47
darkblue_by19:47
darkblue_bok19:47
knomedarkblue_b, it is not forbidden to discuss at all, but the situation clearly is that X (that is based on xubuntu) has broken SSH, and that's why you should refer to X, not xubuntu19:47
darkblue_b.. its not broken19:47
knomedarkblue_b, it's not broken but it doesn't work?19:47
knomehummm... let me think19:48
darkblue_bits not fully initialized, because it is a live-dvd for wide distribution19:48
darkblue_bis the ssh public keys were generated, it would be a security issue19:48
knomethat's the design decision made by osgeo19:48
darkblue_bso , they leave the ssh keys not-yet-generated, as indicated in the FAQ19:48
darkblue_byes19:48
knomeso, they should also provide instructions on how to make them work again19:48
darkblue_bI am on the dev team.. I am not an ssh expert.. it is all volunteers19:49
darkblue_bso, thats the situation19:49
knomei can confess you something too19:49
knomei am the xubuntu project lead19:49
darkblue_bah19:49
knomeand we're all volunteers too19:49
darkblue_b:-)19:49
knomeeven if we were paid, why should we fix things that are broken in distributions *based* on xubuntu?19:50
darkblue_bits good to meet you knome even in this unpleasant moment.. i think that the OSGeo Live-DVD is a fine promotion of the XUbuntu project19:50
knomeif we take something from the osgeo disc, modify it, and it breaks for our users, can we send them to you?19:50
knomebecause the thing was originally from your distribution19:50
Sysidarkblue_b: why don't you remove that crippled ssh and use ubuntu/debian packaged one so that aptitude creates those keys when you install it and need them19:50
darkblue_bSysi: ah - that sounds good19:51
Sysi(aptitude just runs scripts but anyway, that's how it's done on ubuntu systems)19:51
knomedarkblue_b, the best suggestion i can make is ask the guy who did that decision to set up good enough instructions on how to enable the ssh keys19:52
knomedarkblue_b, or create a script for that, or something19:52
darkblue_byes - thats reasonable19:52
darkblue_bI think he probably thinks he has done that, but today, I am having some trouble on a new install19:52
darkblue_bwe worked for two years on this, and released our "5" version in Sept, to a large audience of develoeprs19:53
darkblue_bit has been very well received - I think its very solid, otherwise we would have heard about it19:53
Sysido you have page somewhere describing purpoce of that os/disk?19:53
darkblue_balas, I personally am stuck on this today19:53
darkblue_bI am removing the package and reinstalling, as per Sysi19:53
crazymutexI have this box. It had 2 hard drives on same IDE bus, I installed 11.10 on slave (mistake I suppose). Now I removed the master drive and it doesn't boot anymore (no grub dialogue). How to fix it?19:54
darkblue_bSysi absolutely, changing hats, it is great to be able to show this to you and knome19:54
Sysicrazymutex: set your bios to boot from slave19:55
Sysicrazymutex: if grub was installed to wrong disk, you need to reinstall it from livecd19:55
Sysi!grub219:55
crazymutexSysi, I set the drive as master and same result19:55
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)19:55
crazymutexSysi, yes, that. How to proceed?19:55
knomedarkblue_b, i was wondering if you had a quick overview for the project too19:55
darkblue_bSysi knome  http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc19:56
crazymutexI tried that already, running grub-install from livecd, it gave same error19:56
knomedarkblue_b, would be nice if you could mention you're using xubuntu as the base, if that's the situation :)19:57
darkblue_bI am happy to carry that back to the project - I agree knome19:57
knomethanks19:57
knomedarkblue_b, that's appreciated19:57
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samy-zulohola buenas!!19:58
samy-zuloq tal19:58
samy-zuloalguien me podria exar una manita?19:59
knome!es | samy-zulo19:59
ubottusamy-zulo: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #xubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. Si nadie responde allí puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es.19:59
samy-zulothanks!!19:59
* knome will leave now to watch a movie20:00
knomehave a nice night everybody20:00
knomedarkblue_b, btw, if you want to talk about development later on, feel free to join #xubuntu-devel too20:00
crazymutexSysi, thanks I should be able to reinstall grub with the info from this page; Though, will other problems arise since /dev/sdb will now be /dev/sda ? Should I edit /etc/fstab maybe?20:07
Sysino20:08
projekt26boo!20:30
leo_good night everyone; I've got a little probleme with my xubuntu 11.10 all my videos are blue, i did a reset hardware defaults with x server settings it works but if i close the x server settings and vlc or other video soft the probleme is the same :(22:05
leo_oups sorry22:05
leo_hello22:05
leo_I've got a little probleme with nvidia settings22:06
leo_all my videos are blue22:06
leo_i did a x server settings hardreset it solves temporally the probleme :(22:06
leo_i shoot the drivers but the probleme is the same22:07
leo_all forus talk about gstreamer... but it's a gnome app :)22:07
leo_and i don't want to go again with gnome :)22:07
leo_thxs for your help !22:09

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