| Paimun | seems to have worked; "Adding system startup for /etc/init.d/lightdm ..." | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| Paimun | However I also got "update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/lightdm missing LSB information" before that | 00:02 |
| Paimun | not sure if I should worry about that or not | 00:02 |
| dvance | is the startup script not LSB compliant I wonder? | 00:03 |
| dvance | not sure what to make of that one | 00:03 |
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| Paimun | well, thanks for the greeter-hide-users tip, dvance, because that worked fine | 00:33 |
| Paimun | but lightdm still didn't start up | 00:33 |
| Paimun | in fact I alt+tabbed and looked at the boot log and it says "stopping lightdm" and "stopping gdm" | 00:33 |
| TVasEyes | :w | 00:37 |
| w30 | /part | 01:14 |
| === cipi is now known as CiPi | ||
| === CiPi is now known as cipi | ||
| Paimun | fixed my lightdm issue! | 02:21 |
| xubuntu062 | anyone know why the xubuntu installer would hang every time for like 15 mins at laptop-detect ? | 03:24 |
| oobie | i am having issued with xubuntu reading my fuji finepix camera | 04:16 |
| oobie | i tried installing f-spot and changed things in setting manager, now when i plug it it tells me it has seen a device but won't let me see pics | 04:17 |
| oobie | it does show up when i do lsusb | 04:17 |
| oobie | any ideas? please? | 04:17 |
| === oobie is now known as oobiloz | ||
| oobiloz | hellow? | 04:29 |
| Sysi | I have no experience with cameras, but you can't import photos with f-spot? | 04:33 |
| Sysi | I'm not sure if you should be able to.. | 04:33 |
| oobiloz | i can't | 04:34 |
| oobiloz | i tried it... | 04:34 |
| oobiloz | i tried it with gthumb too... no go | 04:34 |
| oobiloz | it's all grey | 04:34 |
| Sysi | you could try gthumb | 04:34 |
| oobiloz | i go as far as the menu but... it's greya nd i can't select anything | 04:34 |
| Sysi | I heard they removed camera importing support from some app.. I think it was digikam | 04:35 |
| oobiloz | waaah | 04:35 |
| Sysi | well compiled without support for that | 04:35 |
| oobiloz | know of a way around it? | 04:36 |
| Sysi | first I'd try different app. like gthumb | 04:36 |
| oobiloz | i've tried gthumb | 04:37 |
| oobiloz | it's also greyed out there too | 04:37 |
| oobiloz | camera detected: a photo camera was detected | 04:39 |
| oobiloz | but nothinga fter that | 04:39 |
| Sysi | wait for some time, if nobody pops up you can try #ubuntu | 04:40 |
| oobiloz | i am there | 04:40 |
| oobiloz | lol | 04:40 |
| oobiloz | thank sysi | 04:40 |
| oobiloz | at least for listnin and being nice | 04:40 |
| webbimato | Hi! Anyone installed bindfs to xubuntu for controlling local folder/file sharing? | 06:57 |
| visitor1 | hi, i have troubles with my xfce desktop, i lost xfce4-panel, i have got it back but the applicaction button on top left is gone | 07:00 |
| visitor1 | anybody got a clue how to get it back | 07:00 |
| visitor1 | ? | 07:00 |
| TheSheep | visitor1: right-click on the panel, select panel->add | 07:03 |
| TheSheep | visitor1: find the button on the list and drag it to where you want it | 07:03 |
| visitor1 | sorry i probably didnt express me correctly, i need the xfce menu, but it worked the way you tole me, thanks a lot, hope just it is also there after the next reboot lol | 07:06 |
| visitor1 | told | 07:06 |
| xubuntu258 | my mouse cursor keeps moving when i try to type, any suggestions how t fix it? | 07:12 |
| baizon | new mouse? | 07:16 |
| baizon | or different usb port | 07:16 |
| MikeChelen | after changing mouse size with gcursor, the cursor is still small on some windows | 08:52 |
| oobiloz | join #rendai | 10:40 |
| oobiloz | er | 10:40 |
| xubuntu187 | hola | 12:12 |
| xubuntu187 | a todos | 12:12 |
| === cipi is now known as CiPi | ||
| === CiPi is now known as cipi | ||
| === cipi is now known as CiPi | ||
| urthmover | what is the smartest way to install flash these days? (I'm running minimal 11.10 amd64 and xfce4 (just the packages I need) | 14:20 |
| urthmover | I'm doing the flashplugin-nonfree from apt for now | 14:21 |
| baizon | urthmover: no that way sucks | 14:23 |
| baizon | i installd it | 14:23 |
| baizon | you have to install i386 libs | 14:23 |
| urthmover | ah ok baizon I'll give that a shot | 14:24 |
| baizon | no no | 14:24 |
| baizon | wait | 14:24 |
| baizon | you just have to install that package... | 14:24 |
| baizon | urthmover: apt-get install adobe-flashplugin | 14:25 |
| baizon | that will do it :) | 14:25 |
| urthmover | ok thanks | 14:26 |
| baizon | np | 14:26 |
| urthmover | sadly after having installed flash youtube is still complaining about me not having the latest version of flash | 14:28 |
| baizon | ? | 14:28 |
| baizon | you installd the adobe-flashplugin package? | 14:29 |
| knome | urthmover, did you restart firefox? | 14:29 |
| urthmover | I'm on chrome | 14:29 |
| urthmover | and yes I started a new instance once the packages were done installing | 14:29 |
| urthmover | do you think it is an issue with running chrome? | 14:30 |
| urthmover | I'd hate to install firefox just to test it | 14:30 |
| urthmover | knome baizon do either of you have working flash on youtube today? if so what browser are you using? | 14:30 |
| baizon | im using firefox | 14:31 |
| knome | ff too | 14:31 |
| knome | gonna hit the shower now -> | 14:32 |
| baizon | hf :) | 14:32 |
| bozso | hi | 14:58 |
| bozso | am i on the right chanel, if I need help? :D | 14:58 |
| baizon | yes | 14:58 |
| bozso | I'm new to linux | 14:58 |
| bozso | and I cant get wifi to work | 14:59 |
| bozso | I have xubuntu installed on an IBM T20 (900Mhz, 512ram) | 14:59 |
| bozso | with an external wifi card | 14:59 |
| bozso | (digitus wireless lan cardbus) | 14:59 |
| bozso | I installed the driver with windows driver intaller | 15:00 |
| bozso | and I see me home wireless network | 15:00 |
| bozso | but the password wont work | 15:00 |
| bozso | it asks again and again for the password, and I entered it correctly | 15:00 |
| bozso | any ideas? | 15:00 |
| baizon | what security? WEP, WPA2, WPA, none? | 15:00 |
| bozso | wpa2 | 15:00 |
| baizon | does your wifi card support wpa2? | 15:01 |
| bozso | yes | 15:01 |
| bozso | it worked under windows | 15:01 |
| holstein | i remember trying a few different windows drivers, and finally getting one that worked with a strange card i had | 15:01 |
| bozso | and yes, it's on the box (wpa, wpa2 support) | 15:02 |
| holstein | you can try (temporarily) disabling the security just to see that its working | 15:02 |
| bozso | the driver I installed is the from the cd that came with the card originally | 15:02 |
| holstein | bozso: right, thats the one i used first as well | 15:02 |
| bozso | hmm I'll try disableing the password then | 15:04 |
| bozso | but i think the card is working | 15:04 |
| bozso | can it be, that the password is somehow changed before getting to the routher? | 15:04 |
| holstein | i am allergic to speculation, so this bit of troubleshooting will give you some useful information | 15:04 |
| holstein | bozso: i dont think so... theres the wpa supplicant though.. i havent had to worry with it for a long time | 15:05 |
| bozso | holstein: what is the wpa supplicant? | 15:07 |
| holstein | bozso: its just that... its for wpa, which is what you are going to find out if you are having issues with exclusively | 15:07 |
| holstein | if it were me.. i would try disabling the security... i would try connecting... i would try with WEP as well... then i would try (if its easy) to connect with a few live CD's and that driver | 15:08 |
| bozso | well I tried disableing security | 15:23 |
| bozso | with no security it does not connect, and with wep it does the same, asks for the password over and over again | 15:23 |
| holstein | yeah, i should have said *if* it works without security, move on the WEP | 15:24 |
| holstein | anyways.. if you want to tech this out with security disabled, i feel like that will save you some time | 15:24 |
| bozso | thank you :) | 15:25 |
| bozso | Iam going to search for some alternative drivers then | 15:25 |
| holstein | bozso: what about a native linux one? no dice? | 15:25 |
| france1159 | Hi everyone | 17:46 |
| Paimun | hello | 17:47 |
| france1159 | i installed Xubuntu and i currently installed Empathy but i don't understand why the graphical theme isn't apply on it. | 17:47 |
| france1159 | actually visually i get ... uhm.. the same visual when i run a gtk application in root user. | 17:48 |
| CiPi | Use Pidgin. :) | 18:02 |
| Paimun | That doesn't solve his problem, CiPi. | 18:04 |
| CiPi | Atleast is better than Emathy. | 18:04 |
| Paimun | I agree, and I use Pidgin myself, but he did ask for help with Empathy. | 18:06 |
| Paimun | Although I'm just waiting for Digsby to get a port to Linux, but I think that will happen when HL2 Ep 3 comes out.,... | 18:06 |
| CiPi | :) | 18:08 |
| Paimun | france1159, what do you mean by the graphical theme, anyways? | 18:08 |
| france1159 | i use pidgin for the moment and i don't want know what is the best. I just would like to know why after installing a Gtk+ software the gtk+ theme of Xfce does not work. | 18:10 |
| france1159 | How do i take a screenshot with Xfce (i'm going to show you that) ? | 18:11 |
| Paimun | just hit alt+print screen on the empathy window | 18:12 |
| france1159 | Thanks Paimun. | 18:12 |
| france1159 | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/36/cran02122011191322.png/ | 18:15 |
| Paimun | ah | 18:16 |
| Paimun | do you mean how it looks like an old gtk 2 program? | 18:16 |
| france1159 | Yes | 18:16 |
| Paimun | yeah xfce is not really good with gtk themes I have found out, unless you are usinbg greybird your milage will vary with how things look | 18:17 |
| Paimun | synaptic looks like trash to me but other programs like Deluge look fine | 18:17 |
| france1159 | so, there is no soluce to resolve that ? | 18:18 |
| Paimun | I'm not sure | 18:19 |
| Paimun | I'm rather inexperienced with xubuntu myself so perhaps someone else will have a better answer than I do. And there's always google. | 18:19 |
| Sysi | france1159: you ened to use theme with gtk3 support or copy gtk3 part from theme that has it | 18:38 |
| Sysi | s/ened/need | 18:38 |
| france1159 | Sysi, because empathy uses Gtk3 lib ? | 18:40 |
| Sysi | yes | 18:41 |
| incorrect | is there a smarter clock that will give me a calendar? the top bar clock is some what featureless | 19:25 |
| Sysi | datetime-plugin is like that | 19:25 |
| incorrect | is that a separate thing to install, don't see a datetime plugin | 19:27 |
| Unit193 | xfce4-datetime-plugin | 19:28 |
| Sysi | you may need to install it | 19:28 |
| incorrect | oh found it | 19:28 |
| Unit193 | Then you'd have to add it to the panel | 19:28 |
| incorrect | duh i am stupid sometimes | 19:28 |
| Sysi | I just realized I really like that plugin | 19:31 |
| incorrect | me too | 19:33 |
| incorrect | nearly got all the functionality i liked in gnome2 back | 19:33 |
| Sysi | I wish I coudl've get all xfce functionality to gnome2 | 19:34 |
| Paimun | xfce is pretty close to gnome 2 for me after installing a few things like indicator-multiload and the old disk utility and system monitor | 19:34 |
| incorrect | that i needed | 19:35 |
| Paimun | I didn't know about the datetime plugin though, thanks | 19:35 |
| knome | btw guys, #xubuntu-devel is a good place to discuss gnome-xfce things | 19:35 |
| darkblue_b | hi - I just installled an xubuntu system, and am having problems enabling ssh | 19:39 |
| knome | what in ssh | 19:40 |
| darkblue_b | its a pre-configured setup, called the OSGeo Live-DVD.. and the keygen has not been done "for security reasons" | 19:40 |
| darkblue_b | http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_FAQ | 19:40 |
| knome | umm, if it's not xubuntu, we can't help | 19:40 |
| darkblue_b | it is xubuntu, really | 19:40 |
| darkblue_b | you do not want to think about it? | 19:41 |
| darkblue_b | maybe someone else | 19:41 |
| knome | yeah, but as they've clearly changed stuff, you should primarily ask them | 19:41 |
| darkblue_b | :-( | 19:41 |
| knome | well, that's the channel rule, only xubuntu support | 19:41 |
| knome | that page seems to give you instructions in enabling it | 19:41 |
| darkblue_b | I did that | 19:41 |
| Sysi | darkblue_b: all we know is it works on xubuntu, how they broke it is clearly not xubuntu issue | 19:42 |
| darkblue_b | they didnt break it, its widely used and popular | 19:42 |
| darkblue_b | if you are not allowed to talk about it, I dont know what to say about that | 19:42 |
| Sysi | if they didn't break ssh, why doesn't it work like on xubuntu? :) | 19:43 |
| darkblue_b | I will confess to you, that I am one of the primary devs on the disk, but I am not familiar with ssh details | 19:43 |
| darkblue_b | the main guy in charge of that is in New Zealand, and does not use IRC | 19:43 |
| knome | ask him via email or something | 19:44 |
| knome | we can't really support everything *made out of xubuntu* | 19:44 |
| darkblue_b | you cant talk about it at all, because it is not stock x-ubuntu.. is that the situation ? | 19:44 |
| darkblue_b | urgh | 19:45 |
| Unit193 | If it's not in the repos, it's not exactly "supported" | 19:45 |
| darkblue_b | I understand its not supported, I didnt expect that it would be forbidden to discuss at all | 19:46 |
| Sysi | well, this is support channel | 19:47 |
| darkblue_b | y | 19:47 |
| darkblue_b | ok | 19:47 |
| knome | darkblue_b, it is not forbidden to discuss at all, but the situation clearly is that X (that is based on xubuntu) has broken SSH, and that's why you should refer to X, not xubuntu | 19:47 |
| darkblue_b | .. its not broken | 19:47 |
| knome | darkblue_b, it's not broken but it doesn't work? | 19:47 |
| knome | hummm... let me think | 19:48 |
| darkblue_b | its not fully initialized, because it is a live-dvd for wide distribution | 19:48 |
| darkblue_b | is the ssh public keys were generated, it would be a security issue | 19:48 |
| knome | that's the design decision made by osgeo | 19:48 |
| darkblue_b | so , they leave the ssh keys not-yet-generated, as indicated in the FAQ | 19:48 |
| darkblue_b | yes | 19:48 |
| knome | so, they should also provide instructions on how to make them work again | 19:48 |
| darkblue_b | I am on the dev team.. I am not an ssh expert.. it is all volunteers | 19:49 |
| darkblue_b | so, thats the situation | 19:49 |
| knome | i can confess you something too | 19:49 |
| knome | i am the xubuntu project lead | 19:49 |
| darkblue_b | ah | 19:49 |
| knome | and we're all volunteers too | 19:49 |
| darkblue_b | :-) | 19:49 |
| knome | even if we were paid, why should we fix things that are broken in distributions *based* on xubuntu? | 19:50 |
| darkblue_b | its good to meet you knome even in this unpleasant moment.. i think that the OSGeo Live-DVD is a fine promotion of the XUbuntu project | 19:50 |
| knome | if we take something from the osgeo disc, modify it, and it breaks for our users, can we send them to you? | 19:50 |
| knome | because the thing was originally from your distribution | 19:50 |
| Sysi | darkblue_b: why don't you remove that crippled ssh and use ubuntu/debian packaged one so that aptitude creates those keys when you install it and need them | 19:50 |
| darkblue_b | Sysi: ah - that sounds good | 19:51 |
| Sysi | (aptitude just runs scripts but anyway, that's how it's done on ubuntu systems) | 19:51 |
| knome | darkblue_b, the best suggestion i can make is ask the guy who did that decision to set up good enough instructions on how to enable the ssh keys | 19:52 |
| knome | darkblue_b, or create a script for that, or something | 19:52 |
| darkblue_b | yes - thats reasonable | 19:52 |
| darkblue_b | I think he probably thinks he has done that, but today, I am having some trouble on a new install | 19:52 |
| darkblue_b | we worked for two years on this, and released our "5" version in Sept, to a large audience of develoeprs | 19:53 |
| darkblue_b | it has been very well received - I think its very solid, otherwise we would have heard about it | 19:53 |
| Sysi | do you have page somewhere describing purpoce of that os/disk? | 19:53 |
| darkblue_b | alas, I personally am stuck on this today | 19:53 |
| darkblue_b | I am removing the package and reinstalling, as per Sysi | 19:53 |
| crazymutex | I have this box. It had 2 hard drives on same IDE bus, I installed 11.10 on slave (mistake I suppose). Now I removed the master drive and it doesn't boot anymore (no grub dialogue). How to fix it? | 19:54 |
| darkblue_b | Sysi absolutely, changing hats, it is great to be able to show this to you and knome | 19:54 |
| Sysi | crazymutex: set your bios to boot from slave | 19:55 |
| Sysi | crazymutex: if grub was installed to wrong disk, you need to reinstall it from livecd | 19:55 |
| Sysi | !grub2 | 19:55 |
| crazymutex | Sysi, I set the drive as master and same result | 19:55 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) | 19:55 |
| crazymutex | Sysi, yes, that. How to proceed? | 19:55 |
| knome | darkblue_b, i was wondering if you had a quick overview for the project too | 19:55 |
| darkblue_b | Sysi knome http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc | 19:56 |
| crazymutex | I tried that already, running grub-install from livecd, it gave same error | 19:56 |
| knome | darkblue_b, would be nice if you could mention you're using xubuntu as the base, if that's the situation :) | 19:57 |
| darkblue_b | I am happy to carry that back to the project - I agree knome | 19:57 |
| knome | thanks | 19:57 |
| knome | darkblue_b, that's appreciated | 19:57 |
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| samy-zulo | hola buenas!! | 19:58 |
| samy-zulo | q tal | 19:58 |
| samy-zulo | alguien me podria exar una manita? | 19:59 |
| knome | !es | samy-zulo | 19:59 |
| ubottu | samy-zulo: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #xubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. Si nadie responde allí puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es. | 19:59 |
| samy-zulo | thanks!! | 19:59 |
| * knome will leave now to watch a movie | 20:00 | |
| knome | have a nice night everybody | 20:00 |
| knome | darkblue_b, btw, if you want to talk about development later on, feel free to join #xubuntu-devel too | 20:00 |
| crazymutex | Sysi, thanks I should be able to reinstall grub with the info from this page; Though, will other problems arise since /dev/sdb will now be /dev/sda ? Should I edit /etc/fstab maybe? | 20:07 |
| Sysi | no | 20:08 |
| projekt26 | boo! | 20:30 |
| leo_ | good night everyone; I've got a little probleme with my xubuntu 11.10 all my videos are blue, i did a reset hardware defaults with x server settings it works but if i close the x server settings and vlc or other video soft the probleme is the same :( | 22:05 |
| leo_ | oups sorry | 22:05 |
| leo_ | hello | 22:05 |
| leo_ | I've got a little probleme with nvidia settings | 22:06 |
| leo_ | all my videos are blue | 22:06 |
| leo_ | i did a x server settings hardreset it solves temporally the probleme :( | 22:06 |
| leo_ | i shoot the drivers but the probleme is the same | 22:07 |
| leo_ | all forus talk about gstreamer... but it's a gnome app :) | 22:07 |
| leo_ | and i don't want to go again with gnome :) | 22:07 |
| leo_ | thxs for your help ! | 22:09 |
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