[00:02] seems to have worked; "Adding system startup for /etc/init.d/lightdm ..." [00:02] However I also got "update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/lightdm missing LSB information" before that [00:02] not sure if I should worry about that or not [00:03] is the startup script not LSB compliant I wonder? [00:03] not sure what to make of that one === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [00:33] well, thanks for the greeter-hide-users tip, dvance, because that worked fine [00:33] but lightdm still didn't start up [00:33] in fact I alt+tabbed and looked at the boot log and it says "stopping lightdm" and "stopping gdm" [00:37] :w [01:14] /part === cipi is now known as CiPi === CiPi is now known as cipi [02:21] fixed my lightdm issue! [03:24] anyone know why the xubuntu installer would hang every time for like 15 mins at laptop-detect ? [04:16] i am having issued with xubuntu reading my fuji finepix camera [04:17] i tried installing f-spot and changed things in setting manager, now when i plug it it tells me it has seen a device but won't let me see pics [04:17] it does show up when i do lsusb [04:17] any ideas? please? === oobie is now known as oobiloz [04:29] hellow? [04:33] I have no experience with cameras, but you can't import photos with f-spot? [04:33] I'm not sure if you should be able to.. [04:34] i can't [04:34] i tried it... [04:34] i tried it with gthumb too... no go [04:34] it's all grey [04:34] you could try gthumb [04:34] i go as far as the menu but... it's greya nd i can't select anything [04:35] I heard they removed camera importing support from some app.. I think it was digikam [04:35] waaah [04:35] well compiled without support for that [04:36] know of a way around it? [04:36] first I'd try different app. like gthumb [04:37] i've tried gthumb [04:37] it's also greyed out there too [04:39] camera detected: a photo camera was detected [04:39] but nothinga fter that [04:40] wait for some time, if nobody pops up you can try #ubuntu [04:40] i am there [04:40] lol [04:40] thank sysi [04:40] at least for listnin and being nice [06:57] Hi! Anyone installed bindfs to xubuntu for controlling local folder/file sharing? [07:00] hi, i have troubles with my xfce desktop, i lost xfce4-panel, i have got it back but the applicaction button on top left is gone [07:00] anybody got a clue how to get it back [07:00] ? [07:03] visitor1: right-click on the panel, select panel->add [07:03] visitor1: find the button on the list and drag it to where you want it [07:06] sorry i probably didnt express me correctly, i need the xfce menu, but it worked the way you tole me, thanks a lot, hope just it is also there after the next reboot lol [07:06] told [07:12] my mouse cursor keeps moving when i try to type, any suggestions how t fix it? [07:16] new mouse? [07:16] or different usb port [08:52] after changing mouse size with gcursor, the cursor is still small on some windows [10:40] join #rendai [10:40] er [12:12] hola [12:12] a todos === cipi is now known as CiPi === CiPi is now known as cipi === cipi is now known as CiPi [14:20] what is the smartest way to install flash these days? (I'm running minimal 11.10 amd64 and xfce4 (just the packages I need) [14:21] I'm doing the flashplugin-nonfree from apt for now [14:23] urthmover: no that way sucks [14:23] i installd it [14:23] you have to install i386 libs [14:24] ah ok baizon I'll give that a shot [14:24] no no [14:24] wait [14:24] you just have to install that package... [14:25] urthmover: apt-get install adobe-flashplugin [14:25] that will do it :) [14:26] ok thanks [14:26] np [14:28] sadly after having installed flash youtube is still complaining about me not having the latest version of flash [14:28] ? [14:29] you installd the adobe-flashplugin package? [14:29] urthmover, did you restart firefox? [14:29] I'm on chrome [14:29] and yes I started a new instance once the packages were done installing [14:30] do you think it is an issue with running chrome? [14:30] I'd hate to install firefox just to test it [14:30] knome baizon do either of you have working flash on youtube today? if so what browser are you using? [14:31] im using firefox [14:31] ff too [14:32] gonna hit the shower now -> [14:32] hf :) [14:58] hi [14:58] am i on the right chanel, if I need help? :D [14:58] yes [14:58] I'm new to linux [14:59] and I cant get wifi to work [14:59] I have xubuntu installed on an IBM T20 (900Mhz, 512ram) [14:59] with an external wifi card [14:59] (digitus wireless lan cardbus) [15:00] I installed the driver with windows driver intaller [15:00] and I see me home wireless network [15:00] but the password wont work [15:00] it asks again and again for the password, and I entered it correctly [15:00] any ideas? [15:00] what security? WEP, WPA2, WPA, none? [15:00] wpa2 [15:01] does your wifi card support wpa2? [15:01] yes [15:01] it worked under windows [15:01] i remember trying a few different windows drivers, and finally getting one that worked with a strange card i had [15:02] and yes, it's on the box (wpa, wpa2 support) [15:02] you can try (temporarily) disabling the security just to see that its working [15:02] the driver I installed is the from the cd that came with the card originally [15:02] bozso: right, thats the one i used first as well [15:04] hmm I'll try disableing the password then [15:04] but i think the card is working [15:04] can it be, that the password is somehow changed before getting to the routher? [15:04] i am allergic to speculation, so this bit of troubleshooting will give you some useful information [15:05] bozso: i dont think so... theres the wpa supplicant though.. i havent had to worry with it for a long time [15:07] holstein: what is the wpa supplicant? [15:07] bozso: its just that... its for wpa, which is what you are going to find out if you are having issues with exclusively [15:08] if it were me.. i would try disabling the security... i would try connecting... i would try with WEP as well... then i would try (if its easy) to connect with a few live CD's and that driver [15:23] well I tried disableing security [15:23] with no security it does not connect, and with wep it does the same, asks for the password over and over again [15:24] yeah, i should have said *if* it works without security, move on the WEP [15:24] anyways.. if you want to tech this out with security disabled, i feel like that will save you some time [15:25] thank you :) [15:25] Iam going to search for some alternative drivers then [15:25] bozso: what about a native linux one? no dice? [17:46] Hi everyone [17:47] hello [17:47] i installed Xubuntu and i currently installed Empathy but i don't understand why the graphical theme isn't apply on it. [17:48] actually visually i get ... uhm.. the same visual when i run a gtk application in root user. [18:02] Use Pidgin. :) [18:04] That doesn't solve his problem, CiPi. [18:04] Atleast is better than Emathy. [18:06] I agree, and I use Pidgin myself, but he did ask for help with Empathy. [18:06] Although I'm just waiting for Digsby to get a port to Linux, but I think that will happen when HL2 Ep 3 comes out.,... [18:08] :) [18:08] france1159, what do you mean by the graphical theme, anyways? [18:10] i use pidgin for the moment and i don't want know what is the best. I just would like to know why after installing a Gtk+ software the gtk+ theme of Xfce does not work. [18:11] How do i take a screenshot with Xfce (i'm going to show you that) ? [18:12] just hit alt+print screen on the empathy window [18:12] Thanks Paimun. [18:15] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/36/cran02122011191322.png/ [18:16] ah [18:16] do you mean how it looks like an old gtk 2 program? [18:16] Yes [18:17] yeah xfce is not really good with gtk themes I have found out, unless you are usinbg greybird your milage will vary with how things look [18:17] synaptic looks like trash to me but other programs like Deluge look fine [18:18] so, there is no soluce to resolve that ? [18:19] I'm not sure [18:19] I'm rather inexperienced with xubuntu myself so perhaps someone else will have a better answer than I do. And there's always google. [18:38] france1159: you ened to use theme with gtk3 support or copy gtk3 part from theme that has it [18:38] s/ened/need [18:40] Sysi, because empathy uses Gtk3 lib ? [18:41] yes [19:25] is there a smarter clock that will give me a calendar? the top bar clock is some what featureless [19:25] datetime-plugin is like that [19:27] is that a separate thing to install, don't see a datetime plugin [19:28] xfce4-datetime-plugin [19:28] you may need to install it [19:28] oh found it [19:28] Then you'd have to add it to the panel [19:28] duh i am stupid sometimes [19:31] I just realized I really like that plugin [19:33] me too [19:33] nearly got all the functionality i liked in gnome2 back [19:34] I wish I coudl've get all xfce functionality to gnome2 [19:34] xfce is pretty close to gnome 2 for me after installing a few things like indicator-multiload and the old disk utility and system monitor [19:35] that i needed [19:35] I didn't know about the datetime plugin though, thanks [19:35] btw guys, #xubuntu-devel is a good place to discuss gnome-xfce things [19:39] hi - I just installled an xubuntu system, and am having problems enabling ssh [19:40] what in ssh [19:40] its a pre-configured setup, called the OSGeo Live-DVD.. and the keygen has not been done "for security reasons" [19:40] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_FAQ [19:40] umm, if it's not xubuntu, we can't help [19:40] it is xubuntu, really [19:41] you do not want to think about it? [19:41] maybe someone else [19:41] yeah, but as they've clearly changed stuff, you should primarily ask them [19:41] :-( [19:41] well, that's the channel rule, only xubuntu support [19:41] that page seems to give you instructions in enabling it [19:41] I did that [19:42] darkblue_b: all we know is it works on xubuntu, how they broke it is clearly not xubuntu issue [19:42] they didnt break it, its widely used and popular [19:42] if you are not allowed to talk about it, I dont know what to say about that [19:43] if they didn't break ssh, why doesn't it work like on xubuntu? :) [19:43] I will confess to you, that I am one of the primary devs on the disk, but I am not familiar with ssh details [19:43] the main guy in charge of that is in New Zealand, and does not use IRC [19:44] ask him via email or something [19:44] we can't really support everything *made out of xubuntu* [19:44] you cant talk about it at all, because it is not stock x-ubuntu.. is that the situation ? [19:45] urgh [19:45] If it's not in the repos, it's not exactly "supported" [19:46] I understand its not supported, I didnt expect that it would be forbidden to discuss at all [19:47] well, this is support channel [19:47] y [19:47] ok [19:47] darkblue_b, it is not forbidden to discuss at all, but the situation clearly is that X (that is based on xubuntu) has broken SSH, and that's why you should refer to X, not xubuntu [19:47] .. its not broken [19:47] darkblue_b, it's not broken but it doesn't work? [19:48] hummm... let me think [19:48] its not fully initialized, because it is a live-dvd for wide distribution [19:48] is the ssh public keys were generated, it would be a security issue [19:48] that's the design decision made by osgeo [19:48] so , they leave the ssh keys not-yet-generated, as indicated in the FAQ [19:48] yes [19:48] so, they should also provide instructions on how to make them work again [19:49] I am on the dev team.. I am not an ssh expert.. it is all volunteers [19:49] so, thats the situation [19:49] i can confess you something too [19:49] i am the xubuntu project lead [19:49] ah [19:49] and we're all volunteers too [19:49] :-) [19:50] even if we were paid, why should we fix things that are broken in distributions *based* on xubuntu? [19:50] its good to meet you knome even in this unpleasant moment.. i think that the OSGeo Live-DVD is a fine promotion of the XUbuntu project [19:50] if we take something from the osgeo disc, modify it, and it breaks for our users, can we send them to you? [19:50] because the thing was originally from your distribution [19:50] darkblue_b: why don't you remove that crippled ssh and use ubuntu/debian packaged one so that aptitude creates those keys when you install it and need them [19:51] Sysi: ah - that sounds good [19:51] (aptitude just runs scripts but anyway, that's how it's done on ubuntu systems) [19:52] darkblue_b, the best suggestion i can make is ask the guy who did that decision to set up good enough instructions on how to enable the ssh keys [19:52] darkblue_b, or create a script for that, or something [19:52] yes - thats reasonable [19:52] I think he probably thinks he has done that, but today, I am having some trouble on a new install [19:53] we worked for two years on this, and released our "5" version in Sept, to a large audience of develoeprs [19:53] it has been very well received - I think its very solid, otherwise we would have heard about it [19:53] do you have page somewhere describing purpoce of that os/disk? [19:53] alas, I personally am stuck on this today [19:53] I am removing the package and reinstalling, as per Sysi [19:54] I have this box. It had 2 hard drives on same IDE bus, I installed 11.10 on slave (mistake I suppose). Now I removed the master drive and it doesn't boot anymore (no grub dialogue). How to fix it? [19:54] Sysi absolutely, changing hats, it is great to be able to show this to you and knome [19:55] crazymutex: set your bios to boot from slave [19:55] crazymutex: if grub was installed to wrong disk, you need to reinstall it from livecd [19:55] !grub2 [19:55] Sysi, I set the drive as master and same result [19:55] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [19:55] Sysi, yes, that. How to proceed? [19:55] darkblue_b, i was wondering if you had a quick overview for the project too [19:56] Sysi knome http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc [19:56] I tried that already, running grub-install from livecd, it gave same error [19:57] darkblue_b, would be nice if you could mention you're using xubuntu as the base, if that's the situation :) [19:57] I am happy to carry that back to the project - I agree knome [19:57] thanks [19:57] darkblue_b, that's appreciated === CiPi is now known as cipi [19:58] hola buenas!! [19:58] q tal [19:59] alguien me podria exar una manita? [19:59] !es | samy-zulo [19:59] samy-zulo: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #xubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. Si nadie responde allí puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es. [19:59] thanks!! [20:00] * knome will leave now to watch a movie [20:00] have a nice night everybody [20:00] darkblue_b, btw, if you want to talk about development later on, feel free to join #xubuntu-devel too [20:07] Sysi, thanks I should be able to reinstall grub with the info from this page; Though, will other problems arise since /dev/sdb will now be /dev/sda ? Should I edit /etc/fstab maybe? [20:08] no [20:30] boo! [22:05] good night everyone; I've got a little probleme with my xubuntu 11.10 all my videos are blue, i did a reset hardware defaults with x server settings it works but if i close the x server settings and vlc or other video soft the probleme is the same :( [22:05] oups sorry [22:05] hello [22:06] I've got a little probleme with nvidia settings [22:06] all my videos are blue [22:06] i did a x server settings hardreset it solves temporally the probleme :( [22:07] i shoot the drivers but the probleme is the same [22:07] all forus talk about gstreamer... but it's a gnome app :) [22:07] and i don't want to go again with gnome :) [22:09] thxs for your help !