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exarkunHey, what the hell did Baronos do to this ticket, and how can I keep him away from the rest of my tickets?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/twisted-trac-integration/+bug/89880413:55
ubot5Ubuntu bug 898804 in Twisted/Trac Integration "There are lots of spam users in trac" [Undecided,New]13:55
dobeyexarkun: looks like he accidentally changed the status, then changed it back is all14:14
exarkunAnd I should be happy with that?14:27
nailoraif he should not be allowed to change it in the first place then you are officially allowed to be unhappy. if he was granted the rights at some point, what did you expect to happen?14:48
exarkunI don't know who he is.  He doesn't have any particular permissions on the project.14:49
nailorathan maybe everyone is allowed to set bug states in your project when what you really want is to restrict that ability.14:50
exarkunGreat.  How can I do that?14:51
exarkunhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/pyflakes/+configure-bugtracker is the only obvious place that such might configuration might be done, but there are no options for controlling this on that page.14:52
nailorasorry, I do not know if/how you can restrict Bug access in that way. Some of the Launchpad maintainers around here should be able to tell you.14:59
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maxbexarkun: all users can edit bug status (except for setting restricted statuses - Triaged and Won't Fix)18:36
maxbexarkun: Your anger seems disproportionate for a simple mis-click, that was fixed by the user themself only 7 seconds later18:37
george_eThis build has failed: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/86534973/buildlog.txt.gz19:09
george_e...but I can't figure out why.19:09
george_eThere's a line "pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: yaml-cpp-dev (>= 0.2.7) but it is not going to be installed."19:09
george_eBut why isn't it going to install yaml-cpp-dev?19:10
george_eThat package exists in the destination PPA for this build.19:10
Ampelbeingeorge_e: What is the ppa's url?19:14
george_eAmpelbein: https://code.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/+archive/juju-gui19:15
Ampelbeingeorge_e: Ok, and where is the sourcepackage you are trying to build?19:17
george_eAmpelbein: This is the recipe: https://code.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/+recipe/juju-gui-daily19:17
george_eThis is the base branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/juju-gui/trunk19:17
Ampelbeingeorge_e: Hmm, I could be on the wrong track but: 'dpkg --compare-versions 0.2.7-0~1~precise1 ge 0.2.7' 'echo $?' returns 1 so the version requirement isn't satisfied.19:27
george_eThat's... odd.19:27
george_eWhat happens if you add the '-0' to the left-hand side.19:28
Ampelbeingeorge_e: ?19:29
maxbI think the subtlety here is that 0.2.7 is actually semantically equivalent to 0.2.7-0 as far as the version comparison is concerned19:29
maxbthis is one reason to avoid the overuse of ~ as a generic separator19:29
Ampelbeinmaxb: Yes, sure looks that way.19:30
george_eAmpelbein: I meant to say "what happens if you compare '0.2.7-0~1~precise1 ge 0.2.7-0'"?19:30
Ampelbeingeorge_e: So you meant the right side ;-) Result is the same, so maxb's suggestion seems to be correct.19:30
george_eSorry, my bad.19:31
Ampelbeingeorge_e: I suggest a versioning like 0.2.7-1~precise1 in yaml-cpp19:32
george_ehttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/juju-gui/juju-gui-debian/view/head:/control19:32
george_eOoops. Wrong file.19:32
george_ehttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/juju-gui/juju-gui-debian/view/head:/changelog19:32
maxb0.2.7-1~precise1 is misleading. it hints at being a derivation of 0.2.7-119:33
george_eSorry guys... that was still the wrong link.19:33
george_eTHIS is the right one:19:33
george_ehttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/yaml-cpp/yaml-cpp-debian/view/head:/changelog19:33
george_eYou can see I've specified the version as '0.2.7' in the debain/changelog file.19:34
Ampelbeingeorge_e: Or you use a version of 0.2.7~ in the Depends: of juju-gui19:34
george_eMaybe I should ask a question over on #ubuntu-packaging.19:34
Ampelbeingeorge_e: yes, 0.2.7 is treated as 0.2.7-0 and 0.2.7-0~1~precise1 doesn't fulfill that requirement.19:34
george_eWell, thanks for finding the source of the problem.19:35
george_eThat one was really confusing me.19:35
maxbI'd suggest a version like 0.2.7-0george1~precise119:35
Kiall"0.2.7-0~1" is pre "0.2.7-0" .. and "0.2.7-0+1" is post "0.2.7-0"19:35
george_eI can't change the versioning - that is done automatically by the daily build system.19:38
george_e*versioning of the yaml-cpp-dev package19:38
maxbthat's not correct19:38
george_eIt isn't?19:38
* george_e suddenly remembers...19:38
maxbonly the ~precise1 suffix is enforced19:38
george_eI totally forgot that the version number is set by the recipe script.19:39
george_eThis means I need to change the recipe script for yaml-cpp, though, right?19:39
maxbyes19:39
george_e...then I'll need to wait for another build :P19:40
maxb{debupstream}-0bzr{revno} would make it clear that the number is a bzr revno19:40
george_eDo I need the '0' before 'bzr'?19:40
maxbit would be wise19:42
maxb-bzr would be considered a greater version than -99999999999999999999999919:43
jelmer{debupstream}+bzr{revno} seems like a more commonly used way of writing that19:46
jelmerhi maxb, btw :)19:46
george_ejelmer: So I should use that format?19:46
jelmergeorge_e: it's up to you, there is no mandatory format19:47
george_eWell, I'm just wondering if that is the precedent.19:47
maxb{debupstream}+bzr{revno} sounds like it's a bzr branch of the upstream, rather than a bzr branch of the packaging19:47
jelmeroh, sorry, I missed a bit of context there19:47
maxbBest to have a - in there clearly separating the upstream and packaging versions19:47
jelmermaxb: then again, that suggests a non-native package.. and the recipe will produce a native version19:49
george_eSo... which format should I use?19:50
george_e'-' or '+'?19:50
exarkunmaxb: You're right.19:52
exarkunmaxb: Initially I was confused by the rendering of the pair of changes.  That probably contributed to my reaction.19:52
george_eSomeone on #ubuntu-packaging suggested '{debupstream}+bzr{revno}-0ubuntu0+{revno:packaging}'.19:52
george_eI like the idea of having the revision number of the packaging in there.19:53
george_eThat way I can trigger a build if all I change is the packaging.19:53
maxbthat would be appropriate if you had an upstream and a packaging branch involved19:53
maxbdo you?19:53
george_eYes.19:53
exarkunmaxb: It might be nice if there was an undo button to fix that kind of mistake.19:54
george_eI own two branches: the upstream source branch and the packaging branch.19:54
george_eI am only the author of the packaging branch, but I own both.19:54
jelmergeorge_e: it doesn't really matter who owns the branches, anybody can create a recipe for them.20:01
george_eRight.20:01
penguin42lp seems to be timing out a lot at the moment (e.g. oops bcb32dd6feaa700af7b9b344107c16be )21:47
penguin42I am in the dynamic bug listing trial if that makes any difference21:48
george_eLP seems to be down.21:52
george_eUp, never mind.21:52
george_eSome of the pages are loading.21:52
george_eSome aren't though.21:52
george_eIt seems intermittent.21:52
penguin42yeh mostly down with an occasional bit of up21:54
george_eI've only had one page load properly in the last 5 minutes.21:55
george_eOther people are reporting that it's loading for them.21:56
george_eI wonder it this is a localized issue.21:56
george_eI also can't connect to some other websites.21:59
george_eMaybe some network infrastructure went down.21:59
george_eLaunchpad is loading again.22:01
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