[00:23] <almoxarife> the lightdm login screen needs to be updated, I am guessing someone figured it out?
[00:26] <FernandoMiguel> yeah
[00:26] <FernandoMiguel> no art work yet
[00:26] <FernandoMiguel> so says 11.10 lol
[00:26] <FernandoMiguel> I was tripped by it once LOL
[00:26] <almoxarife> I thought I have just installed 11.10 for a sec
[00:27] <Pici> I believe I saw a bug about that on the iso tracker
[00:33] <almoxarife> I don't see the network but I am not sure if it's the os or the vm
[04:07] <anadon> I'm having major problems with 12.04 and getting it to a GUI
[04:12] <anadon> it kinda looks like the video driver is gone...
[06:28] <tresk> Hi, how can I install the Precise Kernel in Oneiric (power consumption problems)
[06:36] <tresk> Since I installed the mainline 3.2rc4 kernel my WiFI isn't working anymore. I would like to help fixing this but how can I contact the Precise kernel devs?
[07:08] <iceroot> tresk: also hapenning on the ubuntu-kernel?
[07:08] <iceroot> tresk: if so, use "ubuntu-bug linux" if not, use the Linux Kernel Mailing List
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:09] <gnomefreak> are we in a freeze? for the last few weeks/month i have only been getting updates from PPAs anyone else seeing this?
[13:10] <gnomefreak> since the start of UDS iirc
[13:10] <gnomefreak> hi BluesKaj
[13:12] <gnomefreak> well shit i dont have the repos
[13:13] <jtaylor> alpha soft freeze was shortly but I think its over
[13:14] <gnomefreak> jtaylor: i dont have any of the repos except partner for some reason i had them before UDS but it seems they are gone
[13:21] <gnomefreak> chromium nighties havent been updated for 12.04 :(
[13:29] <edgy> I installed precise and expected to find calligra-suite, any one knows when it would be available?
[13:30] <BluesKaj> Hi gnomefreak
[13:32] <yofel> edgy: soon I hope
[13:33] <gnomefreak> edgy: its not installed yet.
[13:33]  * gnomefreak not even sure what it is. 
[13:33] <yofel> koffice successor
[13:33] <gnomefreak> ah
[13:34] <gnomefreak> ok im out. have games to play :)
[13:34] <yofel> heh, have fun ^^
[13:34] <gnomefreak> thanks
[13:48] <penguin42> hmm now which of these two to PP-a1 first....
[13:53]  * penguin42 does the do-release-upgrade -d   dance
[14:24] <penguin42> hmm, always the way on this one - another 600MB of free space required
[14:35] <jtaylor> lvextend /dev... -L+1G :)
[14:36] <penguin42> not on this one unfortunately
[14:37] <penguin42> right, that's better - 2.5G free
[14:47]  * yofel wonders why you don't see the output from dkms anymore on a kernel update
[14:47] <penguin42> you still using dkms'd modules?
[14:47] <yofel> well, nvidia
[14:48] <yofel> and tp-smapi
[14:48] <penguin42> what's that?
[14:48] <yofel> updated thinkpad modules
[14:48] <penguin42> ah
[15:11] <edgy> any update on the hybrid graphics support?
[15:12] <edgy> wonder till when so many crucial vendors ignores linux
[15:20] <htorque> hi all! ia32-libs-multiarch:i386 has been kept back for a couple of weeks now - are you seeing this too or is my system screwed up? :)
[15:30] <edgy> htorque: I haven't installed it but can you remind me why we still need it?
[15:33] <BluesKaj> htorque, if multiarch support is installed then you probly won't be needing it
[15:33] <BluesKaj> ia32 that is
[15:37] <htorque> BluesKaj: i have wine1.3 and google-earth installed. they depend on ia32-libs, which seems to depend on ia32-libs-multiarch
[15:39] <htorque> edgy: afaik it's a package that depends on the i386 versions of the packages that were removed from ia32-libs. so if an old application depends on the new ia32-libs, those libs get still installed via that ia32-libs-multiarch package.
[15:40] <htorque> i want 64-bit wine, flash, adobe reader, and google earth. problem solved. :P
[15:56] <BluesKaj> htorque, multiarch-support is supposed to make ia32-libs redundant , afaik and apps like google-earth which used to need ia32 should run without ia32..but it's somewhat confusing to me too since I can't get google earth to run
[16:02] <penguin42> righty, this machine is now on PP
[16:04] <BluesKaj> htorque, which google earth version are you running?
[16:05] <htorque> i'm not exactly sure. installed it a couple of months ago after trying tons of packages that failed to install or run.
[16:07] <htorque> BluesKaj: it's likely from this ppa http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas/80
[16:07] <htorque> same version string, works fine in pp amd64 with intel graphics.
[16:11] <BluesKaj> htorque, ok thanks , I'll give that one a try ... haven't had any luck with google -earth since 11.04 , altho google-maps is a good substitute , I'd still like to have GE ./
[16:21]  * penguin42 finds himself issuing the command     locate earth
[16:29]  * FernandoMiguel stares at penguin42
[16:29]  * penguin42 stares back
[16:32] <penguin42> yeh, ia32-libs won't install and the current google-earth package won't install
[16:32] <htorque> so i can stop installing pp in virtualbox? :P
[16:32] <htorque> thanks anyways :)
[16:39] <johnjohn101> when will unity changes be coming into this release and will we be notified?
[16:46] <penguin42> odd, anyone have on the 'battery icon' button on the panel at the top a 'show time on menu bar' option?
[16:46] <BluesKaj> penguin42, yup, depenedency hell for me since I'm on a 64 bit system here ...google-maps ftw in my case :)
[16:47] <penguin42> BluesKaj: So I can see for example liborc won't install its 32bit version without nuking the 64bit stuff, but I don't know if that's liborc's fault or not
[16:47] <yofel> haven't tried to install g-e, but I can't install wine:
[16:47] <yofel>  wine : Depends: wine1.3 but it is not going to be installed
[16:47] <yofel>         Depends: ia32-libs (>= 1.6) but it is not going to be installed
[16:48] <htorque> seems i was lucky with my upgrade from oneiric :P
[16:49] <penguin42> yofel: Yeh, I'm seeing ia32-libs -> ia32-libs-multiarch->gstreamer0.10-plugins-base:i386->liborc-0.4-0:i386 (and a load of other things)
[16:49] <BluesKaj> penguin42, I don't expect google or adobe or any of these co, that offer 32 bit versions in a 64 bit wrapper to change their habits until forced to
[16:49] <yofel> fun
[16:49] <penguin42> BluesKaj: It's not their problem - it's an ubuntu bug
[16:50] <BluesKaj> penguin42, are you sure ?
[16:50] <penguin42> yes
[16:50] <yofel> and we already have 64bit flash in partner, so take that off the list
[16:50] <htorque> but that performs rather crappy on many systems
[16:50] <yofel> works prefectly fine here
[16:51] <BluesKaj> yofel, yeah , I guess flash works ok , except that the audio still needs pulse to work on some systems ,  but that's a different kettle of fish
[16:51] <penguin42> yofel: So is this a bug in liborc or in something like apt?
[16:54] <yofel> penguin42: in liborc - it's not multiarch
[16:54] <penguin42> ah ok
[16:54] <penguin42> yofel: OK, I'll file one on it
[16:55] <yofel> bbl
[17:01] <penguin42> bug 899650
[17:28] <penguin42> right, main machine upgrading
[17:40] <yofel> back
[17:53] <edgy_> I am using oneiric and installed precise in a kvm but can't use qxl for the display, is it a bug in oneiric or pp?
[17:53] <penguin42> edgy_: Oneiric's kvm doesn't have the spice set up for display
[17:54] <penguin42> or should I say it's qemu-kvm
[17:54] <edgy_> penguin42: nice I found someone who understand the problem ;) can I upgrade it somewho from a ppa to support spice
[17:55] <penguin42> edgy_: I think there was one, not tried it though
[17:57] <penguin42> edgy_: I *think* it was this one: https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/precise/qemu-linaro/merge-spice
[17:59] <edgy_> penguin42: qemu-linaro? is this qemu-kvm?
[17:59] <penguin42> oh hang on, that's not the ppa
[18:01] <penguin42> edgy_: I think https://launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+archive/spice2
[18:03] <edgy_> penguin42: beside spice it's written there is a newer version available, what's this?
[18:03] <penguin42> ?
[18:04] <penguin42> ah, I'm not sure what the relationship is between the versions
[18:04] <edgy_> penguin42: spice	 0.8.1-0ubuntu3 (Newer version available)
[18:04] <edgy_> penguin42: the link refers me to another page
[18:05] <edgy_> also in my system: I have qemu-kvm                 0.14.1+noroms-0ubuntu6 where on the link you provide qemu-kvm-spice	 0.14.0+noroms-0ubuntu8
[18:06] <edgy_> is it really newer than the one in oneiric?
[18:06] <penguin42> edgy_: I think it means he created that before some other updates in oneiric; so it may not be newer but may have stuff enabled
[18:07] <edgy_> penguin42: I got your point, let me try ...
[18:17] <edgy_> penguin42: I installed qemu-kvm-spice           0.14.0+noroms-0ubuntu8 and launched virt-manager and chose qxl for the display but got black screen
[18:17] <edgy_> I think I am missing something obvious,  netstat shows tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:5900          127.0.0.1:42357         ESTABLISHED 28416/kvm
[18:23] <edgy_> penguin42: may be I shall install from https://launchpad.net/~bderzhavets/+archive/spice91 ?
[18:45] <penguin42> edgy: Not sure, I just rememberd that Sergey had been looking at it
[18:45] <edgy_> I tried now to launch kvm -m 2048 -vga qxl my.img and I got kubuntu login screen and put my passowrd but it quickly logged off again!
[19:37]  * penguin42 giggles - KDE's package updater is saying for my desktop 'It is safer to plug in the power adapter before updating'
[19:39] <Ampelbein> If you unplug the power adapter you can't update, which means your packages could have security issues... So it's correct - in a certain way.
[19:49] <penguin42> hmm, that fooled me - on update my virtual networks weren't started
[19:54] <penguin42> hmm, on precise there is a qemu-kvm-spice but I can't quite see how to persuade libvirt to use it
[21:56] <penguin42> yofel: Have you got an odd notification in KDE?  I've got a thing listed as 'jobs' and a line of boxes in it - I can stop it but it's not clear to me what it is or how to find out
[21:57] <yofel> haven't seen that yet
[21:59] <penguin42> ok
[23:28] <penguin42> ohoh - radeon error - oneiric had been pleasently free of those