[00:30] <slangasek> checking for arm-linux-gnueabi-pkg-config... (cached) /usr/bin/pkg-config
[00:30] <slangasek> thbbt
[01:06]  * utlemming is away: Gone away for now
[02:22]  * utlemming is back.
[03:00]  * utlemming is away: Gone away for now
[05:20]  * utlemming is back.
[05:51]  * utlemming is away: Gone away for now
[12:40]  * ogra_ sees ubuntu-core armhf and applauds infinity ...
[12:41] <lilstevie> :)
[12:41] <lilstevie> yay
[12:57] <infinity> ogra_: Short-lived, mind you.  The buildd is acting up.
[12:57] <ogra_> oh, still ?
[12:58] <infinity> ogra_: It'll be doing dailies "later"... When lamont and I can diagnose the issue.
[12:58] <infinity> ogra_: "still"?  It's a new buildd.
[12:58]  * ogra_ just tried to read the webkit ftbfs log ..
[12:58] <infinity> Don't worry about it.
[12:58] <ogra_> smehow it exhausts my 512MB ram
[12:58] <infinity> Unless you're an ELF wizard.
[12:58]  * ogra_ doesnt think he is :P
[12:59] <infinity> The webkit FTBFS (and a few others) is due to libicudata.so.48 being a braindead non-library with a hand-crafted (and incorrect) ELF header.
[12:59] <infinity> I'll get to it soon.
[12:59] <ogra_> yeah, just saw that in brtty
[12:59]  * infinity nods.
[12:59] <ogra_> i just dont get why the log is to big for my ram ...
[13:00] <infinity> Cause web browsers suck.
[13:00] <ogra_> heh, yeah
[13:00] <infinity> 5MB log = 500MB to render.
[13:00] <ogra_> plus caching ...
[13:00] <infinity> There's a reason I have a laptop with 4G of RAM.
[13:00] <infinity> Which is now not enough. :P
[13:00] <infinity> Seemed good 4 years ago.
[13:01] <ogra_> well, usually my 2G on the ac100 are enough, just slow
[13:01] <ogra_> (due to swapping)
[13:02] <infinity> Hrm.
[13:02] <infinity> Sleep or fix icu, sleep or fix icu...
[13:02] <ogra_> sleep !
[13:02] <ogra_> if you can
[13:02] <infinity> I probably can.
[13:03] <infinity> I only slept 3 hours yesterday.  From 8am to 11am.
[13:03]  * ogra_ tries a hf chroot from -core 
[13:03] <infinity> So, I'm at 3 hours of sleep in the last ~48...
[13:03] <ogra_> yeah, go to bed ...
[13:03] <infinity> ogra_: Should work.  Let me know if it's broken.  I didn't actually check the manifest or anything.
[13:04] <ogra_> tar acts up :(
[13:04] <infinity> ...
[13:04] <infinity> Let me check..
[13:04]  * ogra_ tries again
[13:04] <ogra_> but my system might be at fault after two times running out of ram for the webkit log
[13:05] <ogra_> i should probably reboot to clear all caches
[13:05] <infinity> tar was happy here.
[13:06] <ogra_> hmm, untarring with sudo works
[13:06] <ogra_> weird
[13:06] <ogra_> ogra@horus:~/chroot-hf$ sudo chroot .
[13:06] <ogra_> root@horus:/# dpkg --print-architecture
[13:06] <ogra_> armhf
[13:06] <ogra_> root@horus:/#
[13:06] <ogra_> \o/
[13:07] <ogra_> great, i have something to work in
[13:07] <infinity> apt-get update and upgrade work, I call it a success.
[13:07] <infinity> build-essential won't work for you.  No linux-libc-dev.
[13:07] <infinity> Let me fix that for you. :P
[13:08] <ogra_> no !
[13:08] <ogra_> go sleep !
[13:08] <infinity> It's 2 seconds to give you a link. :P
[13:08] <ogra_> its saturday
[13:08] <ogra_> k
[13:08]  * infinity points up.
[13:08] <infinity> Enjoy.
[13:08]  * ogra_ wishes we could quiten the perl locale warnings in perl itself one day
[13:09] <infinity> Or you could not have mismatched locales.
[13:09] <infinity> LANG=C chroot chroot/ su -
[13:09] <ogra_> sure i just alwas forget to call chroot with LANG=C
[13:10] <ogra_> i mean the message could be a one liner instead of spamming half a terminal every time
[13:11] <infinity> And I just verified that with the above linux-libc-dev, build-essential installs in core.
[13:11] <infinity> So, yay.
[13:11] <infinity> Enjoy.
[13:11] <ogra_> yeah, build-essential seems to install fine
[13:12] <infinity> Actually.
[13:12] <infinity> If you want to be super effin' helpful, grab the linux source package and make it stop failing on armhf. :P
[13:12] <infinity> Upload with extreme prejudice, and then push a patch to apw.
[13:12] <infinity> Sick of linux-libc-dev not being in the archive.
[13:13]  * apw can hear you
[13:13] <infinity> apw: Can you hear the grump from across the ocean? ;)
[13:14] <ogra_> why the heck is everyone working on a sat.
[13:14] <infinity> ogra_: It's still Friday for me.
[13:14] <infinity> And will be until I sleep..
[13:14] <ogra_> and why is linux not on the ftbfs list if it fails
[13:15] <infinity> Cause there've been a few new uploads since.
[13:15] <infinity> And it's in needs-build.
[13:15] <ogra_> ah
[13:15] <infinity> (But those uploads will all fail too)
[13:16] <ogra_> due to the headers ? or due to the broked buildd ?
[13:16] <infinity> Neither...
[13:16] <infinity> Due to the arm build of the kernel not being fixed yet.
[13:16] <infinity> All the recent linux uploads have been for other arch stuff.
[13:17] <infinity> s/arm/armhf/
[13:17] <ogra_> oh, i thought we had that bit before alpha
[13:17] <infinity> armel works, but who cares about that?  Yesterday's news.
[13:17] <ogra_> yeah
[13:17] <ogra_> old arch ...
[13:17] <ogra_> obsolete crap :P
[13:27] <apw> infinity, ahh balls more arm fookage, i hate arm
[13:28] <infinity> apw: It hates you too, honey.
[13:28] <apw> you got somewhere you can test build a fix, i am tired of waiting for for uploads to fail
[13:28] <infinity> Sure.
[13:31] <doko> apw, scheat.canonical.com
[13:31] <infinity> doko: There's no armhf chroot on scheat, unless lamont just fixed that?
[13:32] <doko> ahh, I assume he's waiting on linux-libc-dev ;p
[13:32] <infinity> Yeah, cause he wants to debootstrap it and use his script.
[13:32] <infinity> apw: Fresh chroot all set up here to test.
[13:34] <doko> apw, pretty please build linux-libc-dev from separate source
[13:35] <apw> doko, i don't understand you have the thing buildable anyhow
[13:35] <apw> maintaining that for 100s of uploads a cycle is pure madness for the 1 time every 5 cycles we need it
[13:35] <apw> infinity, http://people.canonical.com/~apw/armhf/0001-UBUNTU-armhf-add-d-i-configuration.patch
[13:35] <infinity> Indeed.
[13:35] <apw> not that this isn't madenning
[13:36] <apw> arm being so very differnet from our core arches is hard on the head
[13:36] <doko> apw: no, you wouldn't need to upload it hundreds of times
[13:36] <apw> its version locked to the version of the kernel right now, as it comes from the kernel source
[13:37] <infinity> doko: I'm with apw, honestly.  DEB_STAGE= fixes the bootstrap issue.  After that, we need things to build ANYWAY.
[13:37] <infinity> So, saying "having linux-libc-dev come from another source package means the kernel can FTBFS forever" is a bit pointless.
[13:37] <doko> ok, I'll re-merge gcj and gnat into gcc
[13:37] <apw> right, i thought that fixed you _if_ i could get the krenl to build, sigh
[13:38] <apw> infinity, how long will your test take ?  i will prepare a source upload, and can push it later
[13:38] <apw> (based on that outcome)
[13:39] <infinity> apw: I dunno.  About 4 hours.  But I might be asleep when it finishes. ;)
[13:39] <apw> well ... yell if and when you find out, and i can get it uploaded
[13:39] <infinity> apw: Still better than wasting buildd time.
[13:40] <infinity> Oh, it's already wasting buildd time. :P
[13:40] <infinity> Well, better than wasting more!
[13:41] <apw> infinity, heh yeah
[13:42] <apw> infinity, i wonder thinking about bootstrap, i wonder what would happen if we had just uploaded the main source package but with DEB_STAGE=stage1 set, just once
[13:42] <apw> that would have just bumped the useless packages, and made libc, and then uploaded it again without
[13:42] <apw> then you'd have an old libc-dev and nothing else, and i'd still be ok the whole time right ?
[13:42] <infinity> apw: That would work fine, yeah.
[13:42] <infinity> apw: And if this test build fails, we might want to do that. :P
[13:43] <apw> yeah, i'll think about that while you test :)
[13:44] <infinity> Anyhow, test build is going.
[13:45] <infinity> ~4 hours to build, ~∞ hours to nap.
[13:45] <infinity> Ish.
[13:58] <doko> infinity, why was the eglibc rebuild needed?
[14:00] <infinity> doko: nscd depended on libsfgcc1.
[14:00] <doko> bah
[14:00] <infinity> Some 500ish binary packages did. :P
[14:01] <infinity> Everything's reuploaded and building.
[14:01] <infinity> All better "soon".
[14:02] <ogra_> dont exaggerate, i only had ~300 mails on -changes when i got up :P
[14:02] <infinity> ogra_: ~300 source packages, ~500 binary.
[14:02] <ogra_> heh, k :)
[14:03] <ogra_> (sorry i'm in fighting mode trying to help quietening a troll on ubuntu-users :P )
[14:04] <infinity> Right.  Nap time.
[14:04] <infinity> ogra_: If doko puts armhf buildds on manual, smack his knuckles with a ruler and remind him that building something (even if it's the "wrong" thing) is better than being idle and building nothing. :P
[14:05]  * ogra_ looks for that 350km long ruler ... :P
[14:07] <doko> infinity, well, 15min isn't worth this
[17:13]  * utlemming is back.
[20:24] <Xase> So I have a kernel booting on the nook color but it's failing to go further than halting at udev
[21:34] <lilstevie> Xase: standard kernel issue with android devices, enable kernel maintained devtmpfs
[21:35] <lilstevie> standard kernel config issue*
[21:53] <dragonkeeper> hey anyone active ?