[02:07] <pleia2> phew, articles all added
[02:08] <pleia2> I put all the decent alpha1s in a section together in blogosphere
[02:25] <MrChrisDruif> Great pleia2 =)
[14:55] <akgraner> pleia2, thanks  - working on summaries today :-)
[16:38] <pleia2> thanks, I'll send out the email to summary writers now :)
[16:50] <MrChrisDruif> I'm missing links to Ubuntu Cloud, JuJu & Community Team meeting logs?
[17:04] <pleia2> MrChrisDruif: yeah, we're just working on summaries now, those will be filled in by the end of the weekend if they happened
[17:06] <MrChrisDruif> They didn't happen this week?
[17:33] <pleia2> I don't know, akgraner will look into it when she finishes that section :)
[17:34] <MrChrisDruif> Alright =)
[17:34] <akgraner> yeah I don't have those
[17:34] <akgraner> I've emailed and asked for them and those are new so we might not get those this week
[17:34] <akgraner> which is fine  - and I'll just hound people for next week
[17:36] <akgraner> and by new I mean the community team just started holding IRC meetings and I have the server team meetings but I don't know if we have specific cloud and juju IRC meetings yet
[17:36] <akgraner> I added those but it's a work in progress :-)
[17:41] <akgraner> Plus these meetings aren't discoverable I need to go back to those teams and let them know, b/c if they aren't easy for us to find then they aren't easy for the rest of the community to find - so we need to facilitate that change :-)
[17:42] <akgraner> bbiab - updating RAM time :-) woo hoo!
[17:59] <MrChrisDruif> akgraner; so the JuJu Charm School isn't their meeting?
[18:00] <pleia2> no, that's more like a classroom session
[18:00] <pleia2> a meeting would be where the team discusses plans, direction, etc
[18:01] <MrChrisDruif> I know, was just wondering as I noticed it on my agenda
[18:03] <MrChrisDruif> Do official derivatives also get on the Weekly Ubuntu Development Team Meetings?
[18:03] <MrChrisDruif> Like Lubuntu..
[18:03] <pleia2> we could add them
[18:17] <akgraner> MrChrisDruif, nope
[18:17] <akgraner> that's charm school not a team meeting
[18:17] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, pleia2 told me already akgraner =)
[18:18] <akgraner> MrChrisDruif, oops sorry I missed that
[18:18] <MrChrisDruif> It's alright =)
[18:18] <akgraner> We would need to add a derivatives section  to UWN but we can work on that as well
[18:19] <akgraner> I need to get this section ironed out as well and get the links added to the Fridge  - I think we have links to the derivatives on the Fridge as well but I need to update those as well
[18:20] <akgraner> I'll get the full list and track those down for 245 unless you want to do that MrChrisDruif?  if so I'll fix the googledoc and template for 245 :-)
[18:21] <MrChrisDruif> I was only talking about the official derivatives. Xubuntu and Lubuntu I believe?
[18:22] <akgraner> There are 12 now
[18:23] <akgraner> So we would need to include the all
[18:23] <pleia2> 12?
[18:23] <akgraner> yep :-)
[18:23] <pleia2> kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, studio, mythbuntu
[18:23] <akgraner> Did you not read my interview with Kate :-P
[18:23] <pleia2> what else?
[18:23] <akgraner> one sec let me snag the list
[18:23] <pleia2> I go by this list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeTeam/Derivatives
[18:24] <akgraner> KS: We just introduced two new flavor of Ubuntu, 'Lubuntu', and ‘Ubuntu Core’ with the Oneiric Alpha3 release. This brings us up to 12 official flavors, we currently have Ubuntu, Ubuntu Server, Ubuntu Cloud, Ubuntu Netboot, Ubuntu Core, Kubuntu Desktop, Kubuntu Mobile, Xubuntu Desktop, Edubuntu, Mythbuntu, Ubuntu Studio and Lubuntu.
[18:24] <MrChrisDruif> I only see 6 on ubuntu's page: http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives
[18:24] <akgraner> pleia2, yep that list needs to be updated - I'll poke Kate about it
[18:25] <akgraner> So I'll work on that next week :-)
[18:25] <pleia2> I didn't think Ubuntu Cloud was a derivative, and Ubuntu certainly isn't
[18:25] <akgraner> I'm just going by what Kate told me
[18:25] <pleia2> Ubuntu Server is also official, not a derivative AFAIK
[18:25] <akgraner> well 11 then :-)
[18:25] <MrChrisDruif> pleia2; it says flavors, not derivatives
[18:26] <pleia2> MrChrisDruif: ah, I thought you were asking about derivatives
[18:26] <akgraner> I'll work it out with Kate and Rick then
[18:26] <pleia2> official, flavors and derivatives are very confusing
[18:26] <MrChrisDruif> Yes, but what akgraner mentioned was about flavors ;-)
[18:26] <akgraner> official
[18:26] <akgraner> oops
[18:27] <MrChrisDruif> =)
[18:27] <akgraner> I mean "official flavors" which I took to mean as official but so much is changing with the derivatives I'll get Kate and Rick to clarify next week
[18:27] <pleia2> thanks :) it seems all the documentation says something different
[18:28] <pleia2> I always thought http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives was accurate as far as official derivatives
[18:28] <akgraner> totally agree so I'll work on this
[18:28] <akgraner> I'll see if Pete can straighten it out for us
[18:32] <akgraner> Emailing Rick now - so let's plan on adding this new section in issue 245
[18:32] <pleia2> thanks akgraner!
[18:34] <akgraner> pleia2, no worries - I'm surprised we're the only ones asking this
[18:36] <MrChrisDruif> Asking about the derivatives you mean? I did it because I'm tied to multiple projects, among which is Lubuntu (now official) derivative =)
[18:39] <akgraner> nods I tried with alpha 1 last cycle :-)
[18:56] <MrChrisDruif> akgraner; got an empty template for me by any chance?
[18:56] <akgraner> for the whole newsletter
[18:56] <akgraner> you can look at 244 and select Raw text and you can see it
[18:57] <akgraner> I won't add the new section until I set up 245 but I added the section already on the googledoc
[18:57] <akgraner> if you look there now you'll see it
[18:59] <akgraner> As soon as I hear back from Rick I'll fix the template so it's always there
[19:00] <MrChrisDruif> Thanks
[19:03] <akgraner> MrChrisDruif, starting with Issue 245 can you take responsibility for updating the Derivative Team Meetings section?
[19:05] <MrChrisDruif> It's just adding the links?
[19:05] <akgraner> yep - to the meeting logs each week
[19:06] <akgraner> those links should change each week
[19:07] <MrChrisDruif> I think that should be doable
[19:07] <MrChrisDruif> Especially Lubuntu will be pleased about this change =)
[19:09] <akgraner> :-)
[19:09] <akgraner> I'm excited I just want to make sure we roll it out correctly
[19:10] <MrChrisDruif> Indeed, we should
[19:10] <MrChrisDruif> Maybe we could even let the team add their links to UWN
[19:11] <akgraner> they will forget
[19:12] <akgraner> so it's easier if we just do it - less stress
[19:12] <akgraner> for us
[19:12] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, I guess so =)
[19:13] <pleia2> well, we could ask them to add it to the google doc, but we do typically end up having to it ourselves anyway ;)
[19:14] <MrChrisDruif> Haha
[19:14] <pleia2> the trouble with some of the derivatives is that it's all volunteer-based so sometimes the meeting minutes don't come out immediately (xubuntu tends to have a bit of a lag between meeting and notes)
[19:14] <pleia2> unlike the core Ubuntu teams, where it's their paid job to do meeting minutes :)
[19:18] <MrChrisDruif> Ah, I've only been in community teams ;-)
[19:18] <MrChrisDruif> And with that sweet bot meetingology it isn't that big of a deal
[19:22] <MrChrisDruif> akgraner; you aren't an Ubuntu Member?
[19:30] <akgraner> MrChrisDruif, I am
[19:31] <MrChrisDruif> Ah, just didn't use your ubuntu address for the mailing-list?
[19:32] <akgraner> depends
[19:32] <MrChrisDruif> "Ubuntu-news-team list run by nali at ubuntu.com, akgraner at gmail.com, nhandler at ubuntu.com, lyz at ubuntu.com"
[19:32] <akgraner> my gmail defaults to my ubuntu address - but sometimes I use the gmail address
[19:32] <akgraner> my gmail is my default lp adress
[19:33] <akgraner> so when it got added that was the one that was used
[19:34] <MrChrisDruif> Ah =)
[19:34] <akgraner> I'm pretty sure that the other email address is in there as well that's just the one that comes up
[19:59] <akgraner> pleia2, did you see any posts about the Ubuntu Badge campaign? If not I'll see if I can find it - the Canonical Marketing folks are hoping for 10K badges by the 8th
[20:00] <akgraner> which is why you should be seeing badges on peoples twitter and FB pics these days
[20:01] <pleia2> akgraner: I vaguely remember some mention of it, but I don't remember where
[20:02] <akgraner> I know I tweeted it as did others and I got an email from them asking me to help promote it , but the got a follow-up saying wait we need to change the badge wording..:-/
[20:03] <akgraner> I'll email them and see if I can get the right wording then add it before Monday if I can get that clarified
[20:03] <akgraner> Maybe jono mentioned it somewhere as well - I'll track that down
[20:03] <pleia2> ok :)
[20:04] <pleia2> yeah it could have been tweeted, plused, whatever, I haven't been able to keep up with social media much this week beyond blogs (work work)
[20:04] <pleia2> darn work getting in the way of fun :)
[20:16] <akgraner> :-) don't I understand that
[20:17] <akgraner> ok have the first 3 summaries done - I'll finish up this evening and tomorrow so that all we have to do is review and publish on Monday
[21:30] <akgraner> pleia2, Pete is traveling so I'll have more free time this weekend...he flies out in the morning
[21:46] <pleia2> I'm working all weekend (big, scary migration) so I'll mostly be around but busy :)
[21:47] <akgraner> pleia2, have fun with that :-)
[21:59] <bkerensa> akgraner: Might you be available to edit something on fridge?
[22:00] <akgraner> Sure ...
[22:00] <bkerensa> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2011/12/02/ubuntu-12-04-development-update-6/
[22:00] <bkerensa> On the 6th paragraph about the Ubuntu Debian thing in portland
[22:00] <bkerensa> it should start with a heading :D
[22:00] <bkerensa> dholbach I think is afk for the weekend so I didnt get to point that out to him
[22:00] <akgraner> I wondered about that when I was summarizing it...
[22:00] <bkerensa> :D
[22:00] <bkerensa> yeah
[22:01] <akgraner> I'll fix it right quick
[22:01] <bkerensa> kk
[22:01] <akgraner> anything else I don't want to spam the planet
[22:01] <bkerensa> I think thats it :D
[22:03] <akgraner> ok it matches the Ubuntu Developer Week heading :-)
[22:06] <bkerensa> akgraner: Thanks :) Funny thing is when dholbach and me and the other guy on his team were meeting on hangout last week we discussed exactly what to do if a typo or something occurred and he was gone :P
[22:06] <akgraner> no worries - just ping someone here and we'll help ya out
[22:06] <bkerensa> kk
[22:08] <akgraner> It's only an emergency when ya can't breathe  :-)
[22:11] <MrChrisDruif> Edubuntu doesn't have meetings anymore?
[22:47] <akgraner> MrChrisDruif, we try to cover the derivatives as we get links to blog posts etc - and if your goal by including the Lubuntu meetings is to get Lubuntu mentioned in UWN the the easiest way is to write a blog post and we can include the summary...
[22:48] <Unit193> MrChrisDruif: You've been working them all day...
[22:48] <MrChrisDruif> No, the Lubuntu team wanted to have their meeting minutes also included in UWN
[22:48] <MrChrisDruif> Unit193; ??
[22:49] <akgraner> see if highvoltage is around and ask him about Edubuntu  - they are really active
[22:49] <akgraner> and doing some great things
[22:50] <akgraner> I was just curious that's all - b/c to be honest the summaries get more views than the plain links
[22:51] <akgraner> but we can get it all sorted throughout the next week with the teams - and we can email them all as well and let them know we are adding this new section etc
[22:53] <MrChrisDruif> That should be sweet. Because I couldn't find Edubuntu's meeting notes as of right now
[23:00] <akgraner> thanks for driving this :-) much appreciated...
[23:01] <akgraner> bbiab - dinner time with my hubby before he leaves for a week...