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Noldorin_any windows guys around here?02:22
jelmerhi Noldorin_02:25
fullermdI hope so.  I haven't laughed a good schadenfrudes laugh all day.02:25
Noldorin_hi jelmer02:25
Noldorin_fullermd, hmm? i think you mean masochists. schadenfreude is enjoying others' pain ;-)02:26
Noldorin_which you may be :-)02:26
Noldorin_heh02:26
fullermdIf they're running windows and I'm not, I am   ;p02:26
Noldorin_fullermd, yeah, but you said laughed at schadenfrudes... which doesn't quite make sense. unless you're laughing at people laughing at windows users ;-)02:27
Noldorin_though i like your poetic license with the word schadenfrude anyway :-P02:27
fullermdWell, it was rather flowery phrasing maybe.  But it's like "laughed a good laugh"; doesn't mean you're laughing AT a good laugh, just laughing in a good way.02:28
fullermdThus, I'd be laughing in a scadenfreudorific fashion.02:28
Noldorin_fullermd, oh right, i slightly misread your original message02:29
Noldorin_yeah.,02:29
Noldorin_fair enough02:29
Noldorin_fullermd, still, lol @ "schadenfrude"02:29
fullermd(yes, language _is_ my plaything, why do you ask?  ;)02:29
Noldorin_i don't ask ;-)02:30
Noldorin_but i do admire the rare software developer who has a good grasp of natural language in addition to those of the programming variety.02:30
fullermdWell, I'm a perl guy, not a python nut.  Twisting things into valid but bizarrely hideous constructs is second nature.02:32
fullermdMaybe first and a halfth nature.02:32
Noldorin_heh02:33
Noldorin_thou speaketh not with forked tongue.02:34
fullermdDepends on what I'm working on.  Sometimes, my language _does_ get pretty forked.02:34
Noldorin_fullermd, especially if it's process-related bash ;-)02:35
fullermdOh, I'd be all KINDS of forked off if my processes started showing up under bash...02:35
* fullermd hugs his precious %02:36
Noldorin_meh, powershell is what the cool kids use these days.02:36
fullermdI...   you...   it doesn't...   the world...   I...02:37
* fullermd huddles up in the corner whimpering.02:37
* Noldorin_ ticks off the 100'th unix fan he's made sob02:38
Noldorin_you got to admit, windows users are harder to troll :-D02:38
fullermdDo you get a new badge for that, or is it just an endorsement?02:38
Noldorin_personal gratification02:38
Noldorin_everyone has their own way :-)02:38
fullermdWell, yeah.  But it's uncouth to even try.02:39
fullermdIt's unsporting to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.02:39
Noldorin_oh trust me, if i wanted to face an unarmed man, i'd pick on Apple users.02:39
Noldorin_i daresay there's 100s of delightfully trollable users online Freenode right now!02:40
Noldorin_*sits here typing this on his MacBook Pro*02:40
fullermdIf you unsuccessfully troll yourself, is that victory or defeat?02:41
Noldorin_it's some strange superposition of the two02:42
Noldorin_Schrodinger called it win-lose.02:42
Noldorin_it has adverse affects on the fabric of quantum space-time.02:42
fullermdAh yes, Quantum Trollodynamics.  Much harder to evaluate than the old Substandard Model.02:43
Noldorin_i can't decide whether that's the study of the motion of tiny trolls, or the study of the effects of a little bit of trolling02:45
fullermdWell, it means when you get into sufficiently small quantities of trolling, it becomes impossible to tell which side is being trolled.  Only on the macro-level do things settle down.02:46
Noldorin_yeah. it's what makes uber-trolls so deterministic.02:48
Noldorin_predictable, that is.02:48
Noldorin_i'm still waiting for the 10^-50 chance some uber-troll spontaneously trolls himself.02:48
fullermdThese sort of things have a built in uncertainty principle, too.  It's impossible to discuss them at all without driving any real physicists in the audience into a seething rage over pop-cultural interpretations of their field...02:48
Noldorin_it's the only reason i'm on IRC, you now02:49
Noldorin_know*02:49
Noldorin_research into QTD.02:49
lifelessquantum troll displacement?02:49
Noldorin_quantum trollodynamics02:49
Noldorin_but indeed, displacement is an interesting phenomenon too02:49
Noldorin_i hear there's a net out-flux from EFnet these days02:50
fullermdThat's just Cherangstkov radiation.02:50
Noldorin_fullermd, funnily enough, i am a "physicist", and as such can vouch that our humour is pretty much confined to this level02:51
Noldorin_in the same way the quark-gluon palsma is confined to the atomic nucleus.02:51
fullermdOnly until we turn up the Electron Pump.02:52
Noldorin_don't meddle with such things02:58
Noldorin_the results are unknowable!02:58
fullermdOh sure, _that_ advice always has the desired effect   :p02:58
fullermdYou say "meddle", I say "hold my beer and watch this!"02:58
Noldorin_irony is interpreted literally by physicists, alas02:59
fullermdSo I Fe.03:02
Noldorin_you iron?03:03
Noldorin_ppft.03:03
fullermdSometimes iron, sometimes youron.03:03
fullermdI don't know.  Third base.03:03
Noldorin_hah.03:04
Noldorin_well, i dare not pollute this channel any more. :-P03:05
Noldorin_'twas a jolly good banter.03:05
fullermdIf you flip it upside down, it makes a good turban   :>03:06
Noldorin_even better03:06
Noldorin_i shall don the turban (turban?) and depart.03:07
Noldorin_adieu03:07
fullermdNo, aeiou03:07
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richardusis there a way to get bzr to print the actual diffs of a range of commits as a patch?  something like git format patch or git log -p.08:46
richardusi've got a few commits in my repo but there's lots of unadded/changed files and bzr diff -r keeps sticking those in the output08:47
Kamping_Kaisernot sure i follow, 'actual diffs' as opposed to changes?08:57
richardusactual diffs as in the diffs that went into the change.  the output you would see from git log -p09:05
Kamping_Kaiserincluding the commit message? bzr log --show-diff might be what oure after09:09
richardushmm, that's close!  it's still showing files with unadded modifications though09:10
Kamping_Kaiserdon't think i can help you past that - i'm not deep into such things. hopefully someone else will appear soon and give you a solution09:12
richardusthanks for offering09:12
Kamping_Kaisernp,gl09:12
richardus(i tried a dummy commit after my good commits but it still shows unadded files, wtf)09:12
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jelmerrichardus: bzr log -p13:20
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wgzalways amusing when go to retarget a bug I just got mail for and see jelmer did it five minutes ago15:58
vila...passing around doing the same, and see gz commented on it 12 minutes later but still 5 minutes ago ;-p15:59
wgzehehe16:00
jelmerwgz: clearly you should install a faster MDA :-P19:24
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Noldorinhey folks22:59
Noldorinany bzr windows devs around?22:59
* fullermd has the weirdest feeling of deja vu.23:07
jelmerhi Noldorin, fullermd23:08
Noldorinfullermd, who knows why23:14
Noldorinhi jelmer23:14
fullermdThe Shadow knows!23:14
Noldorintau neutrinos must have broken the speed limit again!23:14
Noldorintut tut23:14
Noldorinwgz, you're not a windows dev are you? "_23:33
wgzon the basis of this evening, no23:33
wgzNoldorin: if you have a question, it's generally best to just ask it23:33
wgzif I don't know the answer, someone else in the channel may.23:36
Noldorinheh okay, i suppose23:38
Noldorindoes anyone know how to set up bzr as a Windows service?23:38
Noldorinserver, of course23:41
wgzyou generally don't, because you need an authentication layer23:41
wgzso, I have apache running as a service, and mod_wsgi imports bzrlib23:42
wgzor you could have an ssh server, or something else, which would then invoke bzr23:42
wgzso, what are you trying to do exactly? just share stuff over the local network, or expose bzr to the internet?23:49
Noldorinwgz, both intranet and internet23:55
Noldorinwgz, surely smart server is the way to do it?23:55
wgzsure, but it has no authentication, so you can't use `bzr serve`23:56
Noldorinhow do you mean?23:56
wgzif you let the internet access a plain bzr tcp protocol, you're letting the entire world do whatever they like to your disk23:58
Noldorinoh sure. of course23:58
wgzhence the use of bzr+http or bzr+ssh rather than just bzr23:58
Noldorinbut smart serv uses ssh no?23:58
wgzin which case, you're not running bzr as a service, you're running httpd or sshd as a service23:59
wgzno.23:59
Noldorinexcept i'm on windows23:59
Noldorinheh23:59
Noldorinbut fair enough23:59

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