[02:22] any windows guys around here? [02:25] hi Noldorin_ [02:25] I hope so. I haven't laughed a good schadenfrudes laugh all day. [02:25] hi jelmer [02:26] fullermd, hmm? i think you mean masochists. schadenfreude is enjoying others' pain ;-) [02:26] which you may be :-) [02:26] heh [02:26] If they're running windows and I'm not, I am ;p [02:27] fullermd, yeah, but you said laughed at schadenfrudes... which doesn't quite make sense. unless you're laughing at people laughing at windows users ;-) [02:27] though i like your poetic license with the word schadenfrude anyway :-P [02:28] Well, it was rather flowery phrasing maybe. But it's like "laughed a good laugh"; doesn't mean you're laughing AT a good laugh, just laughing in a good way. [02:28] Thus, I'd be laughing in a scadenfreudorific fashion. [02:29] fullermd, oh right, i slightly misread your original message [02:29] yeah., [02:29] fair enough [02:29] fullermd, still, lol @ "schadenfrude" [02:29] (yes, language _is_ my plaything, why do you ask? ;) [02:30] i don't ask ;-) [02:30] but i do admire the rare software developer who has a good grasp of natural language in addition to those of the programming variety. [02:32] Well, I'm a perl guy, not a python nut. Twisting things into valid but bizarrely hideous constructs is second nature. [02:32] Maybe first and a halfth nature. [02:33] heh [02:34] thou speaketh not with forked tongue. [02:34] Depends on what I'm working on. Sometimes, my language _does_ get pretty forked. [02:35] fullermd, especially if it's process-related bash ;-) [02:35] Oh, I'd be all KINDS of forked off if my processes started showing up under bash... [02:36] * fullermd hugs his precious % [02:36] meh, powershell is what the cool kids use these days. [02:37] I... you... it doesn't... the world... I... [02:37] * fullermd huddles up in the corner whimpering. [02:38] * Noldorin_ ticks off the 100'th unix fan he's made sob [02:38] you got to admit, windows users are harder to troll :-D [02:38] Do you get a new badge for that, or is it just an endorsement? [02:38] personal gratification [02:38] everyone has their own way :-) [02:39] Well, yeah. But it's uncouth to even try. [02:39] It's unsporting to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man. [02:39] oh trust me, if i wanted to face an unarmed man, i'd pick on Apple users. [02:40] i daresay there's 100s of delightfully trollable users online Freenode right now! [02:40] *sits here typing this on his MacBook Pro* [02:41] If you unsuccessfully troll yourself, is that victory or defeat? [02:42] it's some strange superposition of the two [02:42] Schrodinger called it win-lose. [02:42] it has adverse affects on the fabric of quantum space-time. [02:43] Ah yes, Quantum Trollodynamics. Much harder to evaluate than the old Substandard Model. [02:45] i can't decide whether that's the study of the motion of tiny trolls, or the study of the effects of a little bit of trolling [02:46] Well, it means when you get into sufficiently small quantities of trolling, it becomes impossible to tell which side is being trolled. Only on the macro-level do things settle down. [02:48] yeah. it's what makes uber-trolls so deterministic. [02:48] predictable, that is. [02:48] i'm still waiting for the 10^-50 chance some uber-troll spontaneously trolls himself. [02:48] These sort of things have a built in uncertainty principle, too. It's impossible to discuss them at all without driving any real physicists in the audience into a seething rage over pop-cultural interpretations of their field... [02:49] it's the only reason i'm on IRC, you now [02:49] know* [02:49] research into QTD. [02:49] quantum troll displacement? [02:49] quantum trollodynamics [02:49] but indeed, displacement is an interesting phenomenon too [02:50] i hear there's a net out-flux from EFnet these days [02:50] That's just Cherangstkov radiation. [02:51] fullermd, funnily enough, i am a "physicist", and as such can vouch that our humour is pretty much confined to this level [02:51] in the same way the quark-gluon palsma is confined to the atomic nucleus. [02:52] Only until we turn up the Electron Pump. [02:58] don't meddle with such things [02:58] the results are unknowable! [02:58] Oh sure, _that_ advice always has the desired effect :p [02:58] You say "meddle", I say "hold my beer and watch this!" [02:59] irony is interpreted literally by physicists, alas [03:02] So I Fe. [03:03] you iron? [03:03] ppft. [03:03] Sometimes iron, sometimes youron. [03:03] I don't know. Third base. [03:04] hah. [03:05] well, i dare not pollute this channel any more. :-P [03:05] 'twas a jolly good banter. [03:06] If you flip it upside down, it makes a good turban :> [03:06] even better [03:07] i shall don the turban (turban?) and depart. [03:07] adieu [03:07] No, aeiou === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant [08:46] is there a way to get bzr to print the actual diffs of a range of commits as a patch? something like git format patch or git log -p. [08:47] i've got a few commits in my repo but there's lots of unadded/changed files and bzr diff -r keeps sticking those in the output [08:57] not sure i follow, 'actual diffs' as opposed to changes? [09:05] actual diffs as in the diffs that went into the change. the output you would see from git log -p [09:09] including the commit message? bzr log --show-diff might be what oure after [09:10] hmm, that's close! it's still showing files with unadded modifications though [09:12] don't think i can help you past that - i'm not deep into such things. hopefully someone else will appear soon and give you a solution [09:12] thanks for offering [09:12] np,gl [09:12] (i tried a dummy commit after my good commits but it still shows unadded files, wtf) === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [13:20] richardus: bzr log -p === luks is now known as Guest29642 === jpds is now known as Guest37602 === Guest29642 is now known as luks [15:58] always amusing when go to retarget a bug I just got mail for and see jelmer did it five minutes ago [15:59] ...passing around doing the same, and see gz commented on it 12 minutes later but still 5 minutes ago ;-p [16:00] ehehe [19:24] wgz: clearly you should install a faster MDA :-P === _thumper_ is now known as thumper === marienz_ is now known as marienz [22:59] hey folks [22:59] any bzr windows devs around? [23:07] * fullermd has the weirdest feeling of deja vu. [23:08] hi Noldorin, fullermd [23:14] fullermd, who knows why [23:14] hi jelmer [23:14] The Shadow knows! [23:14] tau neutrinos must have broken the speed limit again! [23:14] tut tut [23:33] wgz, you're not a windows dev are you? "_ [23:33] on the basis of this evening, no [23:33] Noldorin: if you have a question, it's generally best to just ask it [23:36] if I don't know the answer, someone else in the channel may. [23:38] heh okay, i suppose [23:38] does anyone know how to set up bzr as a Windows service? [23:41] server, of course [23:41] you generally don't, because you need an authentication layer [23:42] so, I have apache running as a service, and mod_wsgi imports bzrlib [23:42] or you could have an ssh server, or something else, which would then invoke bzr [23:49] so, what are you trying to do exactly? just share stuff over the local network, or expose bzr to the internet? [23:55] wgz, both intranet and internet [23:55] wgz, surely smart server is the way to do it? [23:56] sure, but it has no authentication, so you can't use `bzr serve` [23:56] how do you mean? [23:58] if you let the internet access a plain bzr tcp protocol, you're letting the entire world do whatever they like to your disk [23:58] oh sure. of course [23:58] hence the use of bzr+http or bzr+ssh rather than just bzr [23:58] but smart serv uses ssh no? [23:59] in which case, you're not running bzr as a service, you're running httpd or sshd as a service [23:59] no. [23:59] except i'm on windows [23:59] heh [23:59] but fair enough