[17:25] <pleia2> meh, gmail still eating some of my newlines in emails
[18:15] <greg-g> pleia2: use mutt :)
[20:23] <nhaines> Yay, Mario Kart 7!
[20:25] <pleia2> greg-g: I have it configured with mutt, but imap is soooo slow :(
[20:32] <greg-g> pleia2: offlineimap
[20:32] <greg-g> ;)
[20:33] <pleia2> yeah, I've already done header caching but haven't gone quite that far
[20:33] <pleia2> mostly I'm just irritated that this issue exists at all :)
[20:36] <greg-g> well, aside from gmail's interface, it isn't really that good of a product, in my opinion
[20:37] <pleia2> this is the first major problem I've really had with it
[20:39] <greg-g> aside from non-threading, bastardized "imap" implementation, and privacy/gov't suppeonas/etc, yeah, no issues :P
[20:40] <pleia2> threading is client side, if you open mails in a client it's not a problem
[20:40] <greg-g> right, but we're talking about it as a product, I thought :)
[20:41] <pleia2> ah, I was confused by your mention of imap :)
[20:41] <greg-g> true
[20:41] <greg-g> hah, touche
[20:42] <pleia2> and as a general rule, I hate privacy, google already knows everything about me (and pays for my health insurance) so none of that bothers me personally
[20:42] <pleia2> I guess I wouldn't say "hate" more like "I gave up on it"
[20:43] <greg-g> wait, google pays for your health insurance?
[20:43] <greg-g> you work for google/
[20:43] <pleia2> no, my fiance does, I'm covered as a domestic partner
[20:43] <greg-g> ah, right
[20:44] <greg-g> I don't think that entitles anyone to know my personal details as a competetitive asset, though
[20:44] <pleia2> I'm ok with that price for the service
[20:45] <pleia2> I manage email servers at work all day, I decided in 2007 that doing it at home too was going to make me crazy :
[20:45] <pleia2> :)
[20:53] <bkerensa> pleia2: Interested in saying hello to any of the Debian people?
[20:53] <bkerensa> I can log into Ghangout and walk around with my lapt
[20:53] <bkerensa> laptop*
[20:55] <pleia2> bkerensa: I don't have a webcam that can do google hangout
[20:55] <bkerensa> Oh :d
[20:55] <bkerensa> ok :D
[20:56] <pleia2> my netbook has one, but g+ is too much for poor little netbook :)
[20:56] <pleia2> it can barely do skype
[20:56] <pleia2> so, hi over IRC! ;)
[20:57] <pleia2> the CC started doing our bi-weekly calls over g+, I found a mic so I can at least participate that way
[20:58] <pleia2> getting a webcam is still a bit too 21st century for me ;)
[21:30] <pleia2> must.not.buy.mario.kart.7.
[21:30] <pleia2> I went on a trip last weekend, I can't afford such shiny
[21:43] <nhaines> pleia2: it's great!  The graphics are beautiful and there are two Wuhu Island tracks that are a lot of fun.  I really like tha place.  :)
[21:43] <pleia2> not helping!
[21:43] <pleia2> :)
[21:44] <nhaines> pleia2: not only does it have a Friend List firmware update, but if you choose download play with someone who doesn't have it, it updates their firmware too.  Can't get cooler than that!  :)
[21:45] <nhaines> Plus you don't play in Communist Mode like in Mario Kart Wii (items seemed to be better balanced).
[21:46] <pleia2> hah
[21:48] <pleia2> ok, heading out for the afternoon (and not stopping at gamestop!)
[21:48] <nhaines> Haha, have fun!
[21:56] <bkerensa> :( my tummy is full of hummus