[00:00] <MonkeyDust> l1nr007  use --exclude
[00:00] <Rafeiro> heh, fn + arrows works :D
[00:00] <Rafeiro> cheers ActionParsnip
[00:00] <Rafeiro> :)
[00:00] <Fuchs> l1nr007: either --exclude on all of them, or --exclude-from with a file containing them
[00:01] <Fuchs> l1nr007: probably the latter will be easier if you have to add / remove files a lot
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Rafeiro: sweet, acer's can be a real pain
[00:01] <MonkeyDust> i use rsync to backup
[00:01] <l1nr007> Fuchs, do you mean like this ? --exclude "path/dir1" --exclude "path/dir2" --exclude "file1.txt" --exclude "file2.css"
[00:01] <Rafeiro> ActionParsnip:  tell me about it, but it's cheap and does the job ehe
[00:01] <albertito> hi! I just upgraded to oneiric and I'm having strange issues with aptitude. For example, aptitude search flashplugin-downloader shows two entries for it, one virtual and what non virtual. And that prevents me from installing flashplugin-installer
[00:02] <Fuchs> l1nr007: yes, but personally I would --exclude-from=/path/to/myfile  and add them to that file
[00:02] <albertito> and I also get a weird conflict when attempting to install qdbus, it seems it conflicts with itself (http://paste.ubuntu.com/758743/)
[00:02] <albertito> has anyone ran into similar issues?
[00:03] <l1nr007> Fuchs, Thanks ^^
[00:03] <Fuchs> l1nr007: you're welcome
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> Rafeiro: sometimes stuff doesn't play nice in Linux, they used to use a lot of proprietary rubbish
[00:04] <l1nr007> Fuchs, I should specify the full path, right ?
[00:06] <Tynach> Hey, I'm trying to run a network upgrade from Ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10. There are no updates showing up (I'm up to date, and actually just finished installing some standard updates), but the little, 'Click here to upgrade to 11.10' thing isn't showing up.
[00:06] <Tynach> I tried running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and it said '0 to install' and all that.
[00:06] <Tynach> Anyone know why?
[00:08] <Tynach> I've tried google, apparently nobody else has had this problem.
[00:08] <Fuchs> l1nr007: yes
[00:08] <Tynach> Could it be because I'm late to upgrading?
[00:08] <bcuraboy> Tynach, check your definitions on system update and system uogrades
[00:08] <Tynach> I have.
[00:08] <Tynach> It's set to "normal releases".
[00:09] <Tynach> Or is that not what you mean?
[00:09] <michael_clare> Can anyone please tell me how to start Unity for the first time? :)
[00:09] <bcuraboy> yes,that's what i mean
[00:09] <subsume> >/etc/init.d/unity start --first-time
[00:09] <Tynach> michael_clare, it should be just logging in with 'Unity' selected in the desktop environment drop-down list, I thought.
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: try: sudo do-release-upgrade
[00:10] <michael_clare> Tynach, after installing ubuntu I go straight to a command line
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: dist-upgrade won't change your release
[00:10] <Tynach> Aah.
[00:10] <michael_clare> so I was wondering how to start unity for the first time from there
[00:10] <Tynach> I get: "No new release found"
[00:12] <jtreminio> Hello all! Is there a way to create a hosts file catch all? For example, I want all *.dev domains to redirect to 127.0.0.1
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: open /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[00:12] <michael_clare> exit
[00:12] <jtreminio> instead of having to manually enter in each domain one by one.
[00:12] <yukon> Hey, could you do me a favor?
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: make sure Prompt=normal  and not Prompt=lts
[00:13] <Tynach> It is 'normal'.
[00:13] <l1nr007> Fuchs, would you please check this and tell me whether its correct or not? http://pastebin.com/wSJTLysT
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: good
[00:13] <Fuchs> l1nr007: *~ << this one looks a bit strange
[00:14] <Tynach> So why isn't it letting me upgrade to 11.10?
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: then run: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core; sudo do-release-upgrade
[00:14] <Fuchs> l1nr007: also I am not 100% sure regarding how good it is at regular expressions ([Tt]rash), but I think otherwhise it looks fine
[00:14] <yukon> Hey, could you do me a favor?
[00:14] <dimas_> how do i record the sound from a video i am playing in a browser with flash?
[00:14] <Tynach> "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[00:15] <Tynach> "No new release found"
[00:15] <l1nr007> Fuchs, *~ for the backup files like (ex: gedit files)
[00:16] <Fuchs> l1nr007: ah, I hope it doesn't interpret it
[00:16] <Tynach> I really hope that Ubuntu decided to no longer let people make the upgrade :.
[00:16] <Tynach> :/
[00:16] <Fuchs> l1nr007: maybe try it on a test directory first
[00:16] <notsurewhatimdoi> hey, i'm running 10.04 which still has firefox 3.6, and i wanted to upgrade to the latest firefox. is "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable" the right thing to do? i saw that command online, but i don't like to run as root if i don't know what the command does. will it make two copies of firefox or will it just upgrade my current firefox? thanks.
[00:17] <AndrewX192> notsurewhatimdoi: I'm using that repository, and it replaces firefox 3.6
[00:17] <yukon> Visit http://bit.ly/vxyEAE, play tictactoe and tell me whether you win, lose, or draw - trying to improve the AI
[00:18] <notsurewhatimdoi> AndrewX192: oh okay, cool. it just keeps my old settings and bookmarks, right?
[00:18] <Tynach> Any other ideas, ActionParsnip?
[00:19] <AndrewX192> notsurewhatimdoi: from what I recall, yes. You can backup .mozilla to be sure
[00:19] <AndrewX192> notsurewhatimdoi: some of your plugins may not be compatible though
[00:19] <hirogen1> when creating a partition table and you select advanced there is a drop down menu with 'msdos, amiga, bsd, aix, dvh, mac, pc98, sun, loop
[00:19] <michael_clare> i tried to use /etc/init.d/unity to start unity for the first time but it did not work? I am using the latest version of ubuntu
[00:20] <hirogen1> which 1 should i select, bear in mind i got a sata hd on a very old asus mobo, raid, its a right pain
[00:20] <notsurewhatimdoi> AndrewX192: good idea, thanks. plugins hopefully shouldn't be a problem, i don't think i've installed anything other than the default.
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> notsurewhatimdoi: indeed, that is a great PPA to update lucid to firefox 8
[00:21] <Krysanto> yukon: out of 10 games, 10 draws
[00:21] <AndrewX192> notsurewhatimdoi: I ended up dumping my settings (but I don't use firefox as my primary browser - I just it use for webdev)
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: that should work, you can use the 11.10 live CD and upgrade Natty that way, its an option when the CD boots
[00:21] <yukon> Krysanto: thanks, you're good :)
[00:21] <Krysanto> yukon: haha np mate ;)
[00:22] <maestrojed> I added nfs-kernel-server via Synaptic Package Manager. But I try to start it with "/etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start" but I get command not found. How do I run it.
[00:22] <Tynach> ActionParsnip: I suppose :/ But I'd really like to resolve this issue. It seems like one of those things that SHOULD be easy.
[00:23] <Tynach> maestrojed, I don't know for sure, but it might be "sudo service nfs start".
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: I guess, not something I do personally, I always clean install new releases
[00:23] <Tynach> Yeah, I WANT to do a clean install, but I have no place to back up my data to.
[00:23] <maestrojed> Tynach unrecognized service :(
[00:23] <Krysanto> Tynach: i really did not read all of your conversation, but apt-get install updates && upgrades and then a sudo packagemanager -d resolved this for me
[00:24] <Krysanto> i dont know if i typed it right, im fierly new to this.
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: a USB drive costs peanuts these days
[00:24] <Lafiir> I'm running VirtualBox on Oneiric and a WindowsXP guest. But my games on winxp produce constant annoying audio stutters. What can I do to fix that?
[00:24] <maestrojed> I am not sure where this type of thing is installed with you use Synaptic Package Manager but I also don't see this in /usr/bin
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: not having a backup is REALLY bad
[00:24] <Tynach> I'm poor :P I can't afford to buy more disk space. No job.
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Lafiir: games in vbox will run very poorly, if at all
[00:25] <Tynach> sudo: packagemanager: command not found
[00:26] <Tynach> What was the exact command you used, Krysanto?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> Lafiir: only 2D games wil really run at any usable speed
[00:26] <Tynach> VMware tends to run games a little better, but still not great.
[00:27] <Phr3d13> How do I get Ubuntu to connect to my dial up/phone internet connection from terminal?
[00:27] <wimaxtreme> anyone know how to get the wimax built-in ubuntu 11.10's network manager to work with Foxconn USB wimax dongles?
[00:27] <Lafiir> ActionParsnip: It's a very simple game and if it didn't crash on wine for some inexplicable reason, I would not bother with vbox in the first place
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> Lafiir: what is the game title?
[00:28] <Tynach> Lafiir, VMware's got better DirectX support than VirtualBox does, I would try that for even simple games.
[00:29] <Lafiir> ActionParsnip: It's a Japanese Visual Novel and I have tried google searches on wine-problems first. no luck there
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Lafiir: is it a dos based game? like doom2 or dune?
[00:30] <phong_> hi all
[00:31] <Krysanto> hi
[00:31] <Lafiir> ActionParsnip: No, it's windows and runs on a native winxp without any problems
[00:31] <wimaxtreme> anyone know how to get the wimax built-in ubuntu 11.10's network manager to work with Foxconn USB wimax dongles?
[00:32] <ThePendulum> I finally got myself to a point of just using Ubuntu 11.04
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Lafiir: have you asked in #vbox
[00:33] <wimaxtreme> Can someone confirm Ubuntu 11.10's network manager supports 4G WiMax? Under Mobile Internet, the prompt only assists with 3G connections.
[00:33] <Lafiir> ActionParsnip: From what I have gathered from google, there seem to be some problems with pulseaudio. But no recent ones and no practical solution (at least I haven't found any)
[00:33] <Lafiir> ActionParsnip: Not yet, will do that
[00:33] <Tynach> So, I'm guessing nobody else has any idea how to get my system upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 online?
[00:34] <grkblood> how do I stop the screen on my laptop from turning off after 10 minutes in 11.10? I ve tried MANY things and nothing has worked.
[00:34] <imark> Tynach: sorry i lost connection, did you say how much free space/ used space you have
[00:34] <Tynach> 30 GB free space, I think
[00:34] <Tynach> .
[00:34] <wimaxtreme> Tynach: Go to System -> Software Updates -> Upgrade to 11.10, will download files over the internet
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: all I can recommend is either boot to the desktop CD and upgrade there, or grab the alternate ISO, mount it (after MD5 testing it) and run the upgrade command i the root of the mount point
[00:34] <Tynach> Yes, I know, but it's not showing up there.
[00:35] <imark> Tynach: and your used sapce
[00:35] <imark> *space
[00:35] <Tynach> Why does that matter imark?
[00:35] <Tynach> 'df' says I have used 68% of my disk space.
[00:36] <imark> you can shuffle your partitions around to do a fresh install without backing up to a seperate drive, if you have enough free space
[00:36] <wimaxtreme> Can someone confirm Ubuntu 11.10's network manager supports 4G WiMax? Under Mobile Internet, the prompt only assists with 3G connections.
[00:36] <Tynach> Ah, I see what you mean.
[00:37] <imark> shrink your current partition to the smallest you can get away with and move as much as you can to a new partition, keep shrinking and moving 30gb at a time until all your data is off your main partition then reinstall it, but keep the data as a seperate /home partition so you dont have this problem again
[00:38] <imark> be aware this much moving and shrinking is not without its risks
[00:38] <wimaxtreme> does anyone know anything about Ubuntu 11.10 and 4G WiMax support?
[00:38] <Tynach> wimaxtreme, I have no clue, but have you tried Google?
[00:39] <wimaxtreme> Tynach: extensively
[00:39] <Tynach> Well it is a dual-boot, so I could just move the stuff to the Windows partition if there's enough space. But I really want to figure out what's wrong with the upgrade thing right now.
[00:39] <Krysanto> Tynach: did you read my comment before?
[00:39] <imark> Tynach: yes you can do that too, i missed the start whats the problem with the upgrade?
[00:40] <Tynach> Krysanto, I tried that, came up with command not found. What was the command you used?
[00:40] <imark> ah ive re read my log, i think there is a way to force an upgrade
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> wimaxtreme: if you connect the device and run:  lsusb  you can see the ID and search for guides
[00:41] <Tynach> Well, it's pretending the upgrade does not exist.
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> wimaxtreme: you can always try the liveCD to test
[00:41] <wimaxtreme> ActionParsnip: Foxconn WiMax usb dongle
[00:41] <Tynach> imark, it's like it doesn't see the fact that there IS an upgrade.
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> wimaxtreme: tells us nothing
[00:41] <wimaxtreme> ActionParsnip: I am in Ubuntu 11.10 and the documentation for Ubuntu 11.10 states it supports 4G WiMax
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> wimaxtreme: we need the chip inside
[00:41] <wimaxtreme> ActionParsnip: that is what lsusb states
[00:41] <Krysanto> Tynach: i used sudo apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[00:42] <Krysanto> after that i used sudo packagemanager -d
[00:42] <Krysanto> that worked for me, atleast
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> wimaxtreme: what is the 8 character hex ID, the name is worthless
[00:42] <Tynach> There is no 'packagemanager' command.
[00:42] <Tynach> Which is the issue.
[00:42] <wimaxtreme> ActionParsnip: be right back, have to connect to it again, one second
[00:42] <Krysanto> oh, well it was something like that, sorry im kinda new to this :/
[00:43] <imark> Tynach: the command is updatemanager -d
[00:44] <grkblood> how do I stop the screen on my laptop from turning off after 10 minutes in 11.10? I ve tried MANY things and nothing has worked.
[00:44] <Tynach> I'll try that in a moment. Right now, I just deleted all my package list files, and am re-downloading them.
[00:44] <imark> Tynach: sorry update-manager -d
[00:45] <imark> Tynach: yes i remembered you can try and force an update, hit me back if you want to know how,
[00:45] <Tynach> Hey, -d worked.
[00:45] <CarlFK> grkblood: system-settings, personal, screen
[00:46] <Tynach> Uhm, I'm not sure I got the right upgrade...
[00:46] <Tynach> "This is still a RELEASE CANDIDATE release."
[00:46] <Tynach> I think the Ubuntu devs have screwed up.
[00:47] <Tynach> "Welcome to the Ubuntu 'Oneiric Ocelot' development release"
[00:47] <Tynach> I'm sure it'll work fine - same repos and all...
[00:47] <Tynach> But, it's labeled as a devel release for some reason.
[00:48] <wimaxtreme> ActionParsnip: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0489:e016 Foxconn / Hon Hai Foxconn / Hon Hai
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> wimaxtreme: ok, so use '0489:e016'   and see if you can find guides
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> wimaxtreme: maybe this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1540448
[00:49] <wimaxtreme> B5~5~5~ActionParsnip: reading, thanks
[00:50] <wimaxtreme> ActionParsnip: those pages refer to a defunct website
[00:50] <wimaxtreme> ActionParsnip: http://www.linuxwimax.org/Home
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> wimaxtreme: http://www.allquests.com/question/4186614/[ubuntu]-Clear-4G-Mobile-USB-How-can-get-this-working.html
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> wimaxtreme: just pages I'm pulling up using that ID, you can do exactly the same
[00:51] <grkblood> how do I stop the screen on my laptop from turning off after 10 minutes in 11.10? I ve tried MANY things and nothing has worked.
[00:51] <hololight> hopefully someone can help me with this issue.... I have a laptop with an intel gma4500 integrated video. on ubuntu 11.10 the mouse is moving crazy slow. it never used to do this before (at least with 8.04), and it doesn't do it on windows so the hardware should be fine
[00:52] <Tynach> grkblood, I don't have 11.10 yet, but have you tried going into the power options or screensaver options?
[00:52] <wimaxtreme> ActionParsnip: I have read that page, all pages that reference USB 4G WiMax and Ubuntu 11.10 refer back to that defunct webpage
[00:52] <grkblood> Tynach, yes
[00:52] <frotzed> grkblood: it's in the "screen" options
[00:52] <grkblood> yes
[00:52] <grkblood> none of the gui options work
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> grkblood: power management maybe?
[00:53] <grkblood> neither does xset from the termial
[00:53] <grkblood> ActionParsnip, it wont even let me disable power management
[00:53] <frotzed> grkblood: BIOS setting perhaps?
[00:53] <grkblood> xset -dpms wont even disable power management
[00:54] <grkblood> frotzed, the default is turn off after 10 minutes so that seems to be the issue, nota bios setting
[00:54] <whoever> anyone use tts here ? if so what is the most human sounding voice
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> grkblood: I know how in xorg.conf...
[00:55] <grkblood> ActionParsnip, my system doesnt use a xorg.conf
[00:55] <EvilResistance> whoever:  no voice that is yet in existence :P
[00:55] <eqwd> In top right there is a menu with my name on it, I can set myself available and unavailable... who can see that status?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> whoever: you can mess with options on espeak to make it sound a little better, I've seen options to make it sound like a yorkshireman :)
[00:56] <grkblood> ActionParsnip, how do you do it in xorg.conf?
[00:56] <frotzed> grkblood: I only think to check BIOS because I've seen some laptops with some advanced power management features in BIOS
[00:56] <whoever> EvilResistance: i  think there is maybe one that sounds close to human, but can't remember which one , it still sounded a little robotic but it was good
[00:57] <Tynach> Upgrade seems to be working now.
[00:57] <whoever> ActionParsnip: and do you happen to have those optins handy
[00:57] <Phr3d13> Can anyone help me get my female phone working via cli?
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> whoever: they are online someplace. I dont have them handy
[00:58] <Phr3d13> Dumb autocorrect female= cdma
[00:58] <Tynach> eqwd, that option is to set your status in Pidgin or Empathy chat client.
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> grkblood: Option "StandbyTime" "time"       Option "SuspendTime" "time"       Option "OffTime" "time"    http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/xorg.conf.5.html
[00:58] <Tynach> So, basically, for instant messaging.
[00:59] <Phr3d13> I need internet to get my computer booted cause I need to reinstall video drivers
[00:59] <grkblood> brb
[00:59] <klj613> some recommendations needed to maintain a ubuntu server. 1) where should i download source, compile, and install? 2) if i have more than 1 webserver (nginx, apache, nodejs) and I wish to use nginx as the delegator on port 80. what port ranges should I use for apache/nodejs and other custom setups? 3) any other things you think i should know :)
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> gregL: http://pastebin.com/JXBep6XY
[01:00] <Tynach> klj613, why and/or what do you need to download source and compile from scratch?
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> whoever: http://www.greenhughes.com/content/getting-your-computer-sound-northern
[01:00] <eqwd> Tynach, that is strang it is enabled by default even if you have no pidgin/empathy accounts configured.. and that it only lets you manage status but not message people etc.. requring you to still use the main pidgin/empathy interface
[01:01] <abstrakt> what's a filename character that comes after 'Z' ?
[01:01] <Tynach> eqwd, right, it's meant as a sort of shortcut. It is strange it's configured by default to be up there, but I find it handy since I'm on several IM systems almost 24/7.
[01:01] <abstrakt> like I often name files that I want to always show up first using _ as the first character
[01:01] <klj613> Tynach: from top of my head, mongodb. which i was going to attempt earlier but instead i decided to have a fresh image on my server and start again
[01:01] <Tynach> If you don't use Pidgin or Empathy, you can just ignore it.
[01:01] <abstrakt> because _ is sorted, alphabetically, before a
[01:01] <abstrakt> so what is a char that comes after Z that is legal in file names?
[01:02] <Tynach> klj613, then I would ask on the Mongodb IRC channel, and the IRC channels for the other packages you mentioned as well.
[01:02] <eqwd> Tynach, well atleast I know what it is for now... It is not explained on the Gnome 3 "New users" page I felt it was connected to IM somehow... now i know.. thanks
[01:02] <AzoteLogiko> abstrakt,  [
[01:03] <Tynach> eqwd, you mean for Gnome 3 or for Unity? I don't know Gnome3's interface, so it may be different.
[01:03] <klj613> Tynach: i dont want it specific, just a generalisation where to put the folders. like on windows its C:\Program Files for all software
[01:03] <Tynach> But for Unity, it's for Pidgin/Empathy/other IM programs.
[01:03] <Flannel> abstrakt: Your filenames can have any character except null and /, so the next one after Z is [ then \ then ] then _ (soon, you'll get to lowercase letters)
[01:03] <klj613> i'm not familiar with the linux folder tree
[01:03] <Tynach> klj613, generally, you just dump things in your home folder.
[01:03] <Tynach> Then, when you run the install script, it will put things in the system folders where appropriate.
[01:03] <eqwd> Tyanch, i am using Gnome 3 now but i think it is identical on both interfaces
[01:04] <klj613> Tynach: and after the install script i can remove the folders in my home folder?
[01:04] <Tynach> Yep.
[01:04] <Tynach> Linux is sorta like... You know on Windows you have a bunch of .exe files for programs, and .dll files for libraries? Linux is as if you took all the .dll files and put them into one folder, and all programs pulled libraries from that one folder. And .exe files are all in a separate folder.
[01:05] <Tynach> Linux doesn't sort the filesystem by 'what program it is', but rather, 'what type of binary file is it, and how should it be used?'
[01:05] <Tynach> klj613, also make sure to run 'make install' or whatever installs it, as root (so 'sudo make install', for example).
[01:05] <klj613> Tynach: okay, thanks. Also do you know what port range I can use for anything I want? (wont cause conflicts)
[01:05] <Tynach> Otherwise, it won't be able to install them to the proper directories properly.
[01:06] <Tynach> klj613, I have no idea. That depends on your setup and what you have running. Generally, you can look at what services you're running, and run a google search to see what ports they use.
[01:06] <jblox> hello, im currently experiencing severe screen tearing when running minecraft, its completly unplayable, can anyone reccomend any other java apps to test this with to determine if this is the game or if its java or my video drivers?
[01:06] <esrtougfsa> hi
[01:07] <klj613> Tynach: okay no probs. thanks for the insight :) my previous server instance got very messy lol
[01:07] <bencc> when editing network connections, how can I chose the interface? (eth0, etho1...)
[01:07] <esrtougfsa> i would download a dictionary french-English
[01:09] <Tynach_> Bleh, disconnected.
[01:09] <Tynach_> jblox, are you using Sun's JVM or OpenJDK?
[01:09] <Tynach_> Ah, yeah, I can understand that klj613. I myself use Debian for servers - Ubuntu Server is just not the same for me (but that's somewhat biased, as Debian was my first Linux distro).
[01:09] <Tynach_> Not sure if that last one posted.
[01:09] <colloquialismic> yo! wassup
[01:10] <x404x> I can connect to ftp locally but it dont work remotely , do i need to add a remote host to hosts file ?
[01:10] <Tynach_> x404x, have you checked firewall settings?
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> x404x: when you say remotely, do you mean from outside your LAN?
[01:11] <Tynach> There we go.
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> !away > derp|out
[01:12] <alexisbellido> hey everybody, vmbuilder keeps crashing on me, I'm sure the bug is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vm-builder/+bug/879710 , anybody has any suggestions? I already tried adding the extra sleep mentioned in that ticket
[01:14] <x404x> yes i checked ufw , iptables and router settings
[01:14] <x404x> yes outside lan
[01:15] <x404x> seems like its blocking anything other than local ips
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> x404x: then you need to open port 21 TCP on your router
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> x404x: ftp isn't a great idea to have talking to the WWW, I suggest you use SFTP which you wil get when you install openssh-server
[01:15] <x404x> im using another port but its redirected
[01:16] <x404x> when i connect locally i get some wild ports like 35000 up
[01:16] <x404x> i have set client to limit local portas
[01:17] <bencc> how can I choose the interface when using the network-manager?
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> x404x: then i suggest you review your router config, connections from the world to your router will be processed by rules, connections on the port you set will then be forwarded into the LAN where you say
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> bencc: not really, wicd is flexible like that though :)
[01:18] <x404x> so there cant be a hosts line that blocks it ?
[01:19] <x404x> i tryed running it dmz also , had no effect
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> x404x: its usually called port forwarding but sme routers call it virtual host
[01:19] <Tynach> If running in DMZ had no effect, the remote server is having issues.
[01:19] <Tynach> At least, that's what it sounds like.
[01:20] <x404x> yes it seems to block anything from outside local lan
[01:20] <x404x> anything i setup is dead outside lan
[01:21] <x404x> also im getting lots of lo: disabled privacy extensions, what does that mean ?
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> x404x: the server will run on port 21 by default, check your port forwarding on your router matches your setup
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> x404x: some home grade routers need a reboot to apply port forwarding
[01:21] <x404x> yes i tyred several different ports and services, all are the same
[01:21] <x404x> hm maybe try to hard boot it
[01:24] <Guest69420> hi, is there a size limit to files that can be downloaded? I'm trying to d/l a huge (7GB) zip file for a game installer, and when the d/l finished, I got the error that it couldn't be saved - unknown error. Running Ubuntu 11.10, fresh install, fully updated. thanks
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest69420: how much free space do you have?
[01:25] <Guest69420> 40+GB
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest69420: maximum file size on ext4 is 16Tb
[01:26] <Tynach> What type of Internet connection do you have, Guest69420?
[01:26] <Guest69420> ok, so that's not the problem then
[01:26] <Guest69420> had the same problem with Mint
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> Guest69420: try a downloader like fatrat or uget
[01:26] <Tynach> Or even wget. That works well for me.
[01:26] <Guest69420> ok - do they work with FIrefox? I'm kind of a noob
[01:27] <whoever> i have tried to change the default voice in festival.scm but i still get the default voice when reading, i don't see a service to restart
[01:27] <Guest69420> I have cable internet, this is on wifi
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> Guest69420: sure, when its runnig it will see you copy a URL and offer to download it, or fatrat you can manually paste the URL in and tell it to pull it down, you can even gate the bandwidth so the web connection is still usable :)
[01:28] <Guest69420> ok, I'll give one of those a try - thanks to all
[01:28] <Raweed> Hey when I try to move a song from rhythmbox to the wastebucket i get a little red sign and and the error 'Unable to find or create wastebasket directory'
[01:33] <Tynach> Anyone know of a good alternative for Unity/Gnome 3 to having multiple 'CPU Frequency Monitors' up at the top panel, for managing the clockrate of a multi-core system?
[01:33] <x404x> hm that didnt help
[01:33] <x404x> any idea what could block wan connections ? its not my router
[01:33] <x404x> or firewalls
[01:33] <Tynach> Maybe your ISP?
[01:33] <r4> anyone able to auth to twitter using tircd?
[01:34] <x404x> hm why would my isp suddenly start blocking everything ?
[01:35] <Tynach> Who knows?
[01:35] <x404x> hm trye
[01:35] <x404x> are all adsl modems junk ? I changed 6 of them all with same problem
[01:35] <x404x> crashing and rebooting at random all the time
[01:35] <coolstar> I'm having this weird issue where if I run a program that uses webkitgtk in python, adobe flash works. However, if I code it in c++ and compile using g++, flash doesn't work.
[01:36] <Tynach> x404x, have you tried actually resetting your router's port forwarding and firewall settings, so that it's basically 'turned off'?
[01:36] <gp5st> is there a way to add a nameserver to check if NXDOMAIN is returned by the primary server?
[01:36] <x404x> my isp sent me 3 modems this year of same model, all of them crashing
[01:37] <x404x> if its turned off then i wont get any connection
[01:37] <x404x> and i did try dmz
[01:37] <Tynach> Nono, I mean the firewall turned off.
[01:37] <x404x> no change
[01:37] <x404x> yes that has that effect and lets anything true
[01:37] <Tynach> Can you access port 21 on OTHER sites?
[01:37] <Tynach> Or is it just to this one site your trying to get into?
[01:38] <x404x> yes it works on others
[01:38] <Tynach> Then it's on that site's end, not your end.
[01:38] <Tynach> That site is having issues - not you.
[01:38] <x404x> err that site is my end...
[01:38] <coolstar> I'm having some issues regarding webkitgtk on ubuntu 11.10
[01:38] <Tynach> Ah, I see.
[01:38] <Tynach> Many ISPs block inbound port 21 and 80.
[01:39] <x404x> wish i knew why my ubuntu 10.10 blocks anything outside 192 range
[01:39] <x404x> well im not using those ports
[01:39] <x404x> and i doubt they block all incoming ports
[01:39] <x404x> then we would not talk much here
[01:39] <Tynach> Hmm. No idea.
[01:40] <Bagels> how do i open system preferences in th terminal? like if i'm not the administrator  and got that way on accident
[01:41] <x404x> you mean restart x?
[01:41] <Firefishe> Bagels: sudo gnome-control-center
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> Bagels: users can open the system prefs
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> gksudo for GUI apps, not sudo
[01:42] <Firefishe> ya ya
[01:42] <Bagels> Firefishe, tyvm sir
[01:42] <Firefishe> Bagels: gksudo
[01:42] <Firefishe> Bagels: in other words:  gksudo gnome-control-center
[01:42] <Firefishe> Thanks, Action, I seem to keep to my bad habits ;)
[01:43] <Firefishe> Bagels: also, 'you're welcome'
[01:43] <Bagels> Firefishe, i love you
[01:44] <maheanuu> Is there any way to use Nautilus in a way that would allow me to have higher speeds on the copying of files between USB drives, when I move many directories to a target drive, they all move at the same time slowing down the system to a crawl and taking hours
[01:44] <Firefishe> gads!  round-bread-donuts fawning over fishe....what is this world coming to ;)
[01:44] <Tynach> maheanuu, file transfers on USB drives are slow, period. No way around that.
[01:45] <Tynach> As far as I know, it transfers one file at a time anyway.
[01:45] <celthunder> Tynach: usb3/esata
[01:45] <csolisr> Hello people, can you help me fix a speakers issue?
[01:46] <Tynach> celthunder, esata is not USB, and he did not say he's using USB3. Even if his computer has a USB 3 port, his device is probably not USB 3.
[01:48] <Tynach> Anyone know of a good alternative for Unity/Gnome 3 to having multiple 'CPU Frequency Monitors' up at the top panel, for managing the clockrate of a multi-core system?
[01:49] <maheanuu> What I am doing is trying to clean up 6 very large drives and make them hold their own type files such as music on one photos on one and movies on another books and other readable files on another etc.  When I select about 10 directories and copy them to a new drive each  file appears singly on the file operations and everything drops down to about 70kbps  and below which means I need to wait over a period of 18 hours to transfer the very large ones
[01:49] <csolisr> Tynach: Besides GNOME Fallback or Mate, no idea, sorry
[01:49] <Tynach> What's 'Mate'?
[01:49] <csolisr> Tynach: A fork of GNOME 2. Not yet in Ubuntu's distros, perhaps in Mint
[01:49] <Tynach> Ah.
[01:50] <csolisr> maheanuu: I *guess* it's normal for the drives to be so slow. You're trying to copy several folders to several devices at once: this will cause a bottleneck. But don't worry, it should calm down after a few transfers are done
[01:51] <csolisr> Uh, by the way, my question: My USB speakers are currently not working, but they did in the 32-bit version of Ubuntu. Did some driver change or something?
[01:51] <maheanuu> Tynach, I was just trying to do houskeeping and now I will have a 16 hr wait for some of these files to be completed
[01:52] <csolisr> maheanuu: Don't worry, it's not ACTUALLY 16-18 hours. When a few drives are done, the others will finish faster.
[01:52] <Tynach> csolisr, I don't know if you're in 11.10 or 11.04, but in 11.04 at least, you could open the sound options and choose which sound device to use as output.
[01:52] <Tynach> Have you tried plugging in your speakers, and choosing them in the list (if indeed the list exists for your current version of ubuntu)?
[01:53] <csolisr> Tynach: My options are: HDMI Audio stub (i.e. won't work), CM102-A+/102S+ Audio Controller (dunno if that one's the USB), and Internal Stereo Audio (Analog).
[01:53] <csolisr> maheanuu: Perhaps it will take about ~12 hours.
[01:54] <maheanuu> I am trying to put together a xmas present for a really good friend on another isle and am rather in a hurry to get it done or else I will be carrying about 15 Tb worth of data to Tahiti to get a 1.5 TB drive done
[01:54] <Tynach> csolisr, and none of those options work when you try them?
[01:54] <Guest66441> hi
[01:54] <Guest66441> hi everyone
[01:54] <csolisr> Tynach: All are mute.
[01:54] <Guest66441> MinecraftIRC testing
[01:54] <csolisr> Perhaps something got disconfigured last time.
[01:54] <whoever> need help changing the default voice in festival, I have the voice i want to use , so i know the voice works
[01:54] <whoever> can someone assis
[01:54] <Tynach> csolisr, is your sound actually muted, speaker-side or Ubuntu-side?
[01:54] <csolisr> maheanuu: Consider moving less files or less folders.
[01:54] <whoever> *assist
[01:55] <Tynach> whoever, have you asked in the festival channel?
[01:55] <csolisr> Tynach: Ubuntu shows it as working, everything shows it as working, but no sound comes from the speakers...
[01:55] <Tynach> Freaky.
[01:55] <whoever> Tynach: i didn't think that channel still existed, are they still one freenode
[01:56] <maheanuu> Too late, I started this dump this morning and lined everything up and now I am pretty well locked in, or out depending on which side of the puter you're viewing
[01:56] <csolisr> Tynach: I remember that the last time I configured something in alsa-base.conf to make it work, but form my life I can't remember how did I do it
[01:56] <Tynach> csolisr, Ubuntu no longer uses ALSA.
[01:56] <Tynach> It uses PulseAudio.
[01:56] <MK``> What program can I use to play DVDs? VLC seems to be choking on some of mine
[01:56] <csolisr> Something about the internal audio board taking over the USB speakers and rendering them unusable
[01:57] <IRCMinecraft> o
[01:57] <Tynach> MK``, you need to install libdvdcss.
[01:57] <whoever> Tynach: I don't think festival is still around
[01:57] <IRCMinecraft> wat port is this?
[01:57] <bazhang> IRCMinecraft, for what
[01:57] <IRCMinecraft> this IRC
[01:57] <IRCMinecraft> for #ubuntu
[01:57] <MK``> I do have it installed, Tynach
[01:57] <bazhang> IRCMinecraft, depends on your client. ask in #freenode
[01:58] <Tynach> MK``, technically it's illegal in some areas, so it's not installed by default. You would know if you have it installed.
[01:58] <IRCMinecraft> whats is the network for #ubuntu
[01:58] <IRCMinecraft> like irc.mozilla.org
[01:58] <bazhang> IRCMinecraft, freenode
[01:58] <IRCMinecraft> ok
[01:59] <csolisr> Back to my question: Is there any particular setup I must do to prioritize my USB over my embedded audio board?
[01:59] <Josh1910> i have my system reserved partition in my "Places" how do i remove it so i never see it again?
[02:00] <whoever> need help changing the default voice in festival, I have the voice i want to use , so i know the voice works . can someome assist? also I don't think freenode channel is still in existance
[02:00] <deltaray_> I'm having a weird issue with du.
[02:00] <csolisr> Josh1910: Easy way, enter Nautilus, right-click the partition, click "Remove". If that doesn't work come again.
[02:00] <Tynach> MK``, check here. I don't know what else to say. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[02:00] <bazhang> whoever, sure it is. #freenode
[02:00] <MK``> is there a channel for VLC on this network?
[02:01] <deltaray_> If I have a symlink in your homedir pointing to /tmp and run du -sh * in my homedir, it reports the space usage for /tmp next to the symlink entry instead of 0, which is what it should do.
[02:01] <bazhang> MK``, try #vlc ?
[02:01] <MK``> it's #videolan apparently.
[02:01] <deltaray_> And if I move that symlink into a subdirectory of my homedir and run du -sh * there, it reports 0.
[02:01] <xangua> !alis | MK``
[02:01] <csolisr> MK``: In case the player happens to be illegal in your country, you can always purchase a license from Fluendo.
[02:01] <Bagels> my users settings keeps freezing up when I try to open it.  How can I debug or figure it out?
[02:01] <Tynach> MK``, there's also a possibility your DVD drive doesn't work with dual-layer DVDs, which can cause problems.
[02:02] <Josh1910> csolisr: the partition is greyed out
[02:02] <csolisr> Josh1910: Hmm... In that case, no idea. Any help over here?
[02:03] <whoever> bazhang: i try /join #festival and i am the only one
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> MK``: do you have the libdvdcss installed?
[02:03] <MK``> Yes. I said that heh
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> MK``: didn't see it mixed in with the other text
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> MK``: try gnome-mplayer :)
[02:04] <MK``> Installing, will report any issues
[02:05] <csolisr> Sorry to bother you: How to "reboot" the PulseAudio driver?
[02:05] <whoever> bazhang: i try /join #festival and i am the only one
[02:05] <xangua> csolisr: pkill pulseaudio, and it shoud start again
[02:05] <xangua> reboot que driver¿¿ :/
[02:05] <csolisr> Uh, nevermind
[02:06] <csolisr> xangua: My USB speakers are not working although Ubuntu thinks they do work.
[02:06] <csolisr> xangua: Is there anything I can do about it?
[02:08] <Jordan_U> deltaray_: What is the output of just "du -sh /home/symlink"?
[02:08] <deltaray_> 0
[02:08] <deltaray_> Jordan_U: I think something may be wrong with this machine. I have another machine same version without the issue.
[02:09] <deltaray_> I have same shopts enabled too
[02:09] <saliak> Anyone use adito ssl vpn server? I'm trying to setup an easy to use, cross platform, vpn and it seems like adito i that, but I can't figure out how to do what I think the point of a VPN is.  I connect, start the user agent, but it's not obviousl in any way that i'm on my home nework
[02:09] <deltaray_> so nothing different there.
[02:09] <Jordan_U> deltaray_: What is the output of "ls -ld /home/symlink"?
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> csolisr: in sound settings, is the output device set to the USB speakers?
[02:10] <deltaray_> Jordan_U: lrwxrwxrwx 1 myuser myuser 4 2011-12-03 21:10 symlink -> /tmp
[02:11] <Josh1910> on my last ubuntu install i was able to drag window to side and half screen it. how do i enable it on my new install
[02:11] <csolisr> ActionParsnip: Nevermind, I already set the device to the USB speakers. What I need now is to set them as the *default*
[02:12] <deltaray_> Jordan_U: so I'm right to think that it shouldn't be doing this correct?
[02:13] <Jordan_U> deltaray_: Yes, though when dealing with coreutils stuff like du it's usually safer to assume human error than a bug in the command.
[02:13] <MK``> ActionParsnip: when I try to open it with Gnome-mplayer without menus, it does not work. If I try it with menus, it runs extremely choppy.
[02:13] <feioso> hello
[02:13] <feioso> friends
[02:13] <deltaray_> Jordan_U: I'm not past human error of course, but I've gone through and tried to eliminate that. I've double checked, made sure I wasn't aliasing du to something, etc.
[02:14] <csolisr> MK``: Obvious question: Is your computer old or new?
[02:14] <MK``> csolisr: new, from last year
[02:15] <Jordan_U> deltaray_: Can you show a log, with unedited names and values (rather than "myuser" and "symlink" unless the file is really named "symlink"), of "ls -ld /path/to/symlink" and "du -sh /path/to/symlink"?
[02:15] <feioso> my names is feiosso
[02:15] <fivetwentysix> Is there a terminal with atleast 256 color support?
[02:15] <feioso> you gay
[02:15] <deltaray_> Jordan_U: Its almost as if I'm running a version of du that has code in it saying "if you are in your home directory, resolve symlinks when you use an argument of *", but of course that's not what bash would pass to it.
[02:15] <Josh1910> Why is my fresh install of ubuntu lagging?
[02:16] <feioso> dundundun
[02:16] <mactrent> Josh1910, What hardware do you have?
[02:16] <deltaray_> Jordan_U: It really is named symlink (I created a new one). I won't show you what's in my home dir for obvious privacy reasons, so I have to edit it and give you just that file.
[02:16] <jupiter_> What laptop wifi cards usually work with linux? Need a new one.
[02:17] <linas> hi all .. after upgrading to oneiric,  the computer bricked
[02:17] <whoever> what the ... join #festival , i am the only one in the room
[02:17] <linas> I think it s hung in upsart
[02:17] <Jordan_U> deltaray_: If you run the commands as I said, rather than using '*', you shouldn't need to give me anything but your username.
[02:17] <bazhang> whoever, there may not be a channel for it, try alis
[02:17] <bazhang> !alis | whoever
[02:19] <linas> fivetwentysix, gnome-terminal is fuill-color
[02:20] <nanobolic> jupiter_, realtek,atheros,INTEL (they may be best) IMO
[02:21] <Jordan_U> deltaray_: What about "du -sh -- *", in case you have any filenames like "-D"?
[02:21] <deltaray_> Jordan_U: Good point, let me check
[02:22] <deltaray_> Jordan_U: HA! You were right
[02:23] <deltaray_> Hahaha. I had a file called -H
[02:23] <deltaray_> That's crazy
[02:23] <deltaray_> Well, it happens to the best of us.
[02:23] <Jordan_U> deltaray_: :)
[02:23] <deltaray_> I'm really quite good at the CLI, I actually run climagic on twitter.
[02:24] <deltaray_> But sometimes having someone to talk to really helps.
[02:24] <deltaray_> Thanks.
[02:24] <Jordan_U> deltaray_: You're welcome.
[02:25] <whoever> bazhang: /msg nickserv !alias|festival does nothing
[02:25] <bazhang> whoever, its alis not alias
[02:25] <bazhang> !alis | whoever
[02:27] <MK``> DVD playback is extremely choppy after I've done everything on the RestrictedFormats page. I have libdvdcss2 installed, I set the region code, and I made sure DMA was on.
[02:29] <ionstorm66> is there a new way to do network aliases in 11.10?
[02:29] <whoever> bazhang: alist list *tts* or *festival* returns nothing
[02:29] <bazhang> whoever, ok. there is not a channel for everything
[02:30] <whoever> bazhang: thx, got any ideas wheere to go from here .. google dosn't seem to have anything that i havent tried
[02:31] <dragomir> howdy ubuntu friends :D
[02:32] <dragomir> I have a CLI question. How do you update firefox on 10.04 in CLI?
[02:32] <bazhang> dragomir, to what version
[02:33] <dragomir> bazhang, the most current.
[02:33] <bazhang> https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable  <--- enable this PPA dragomir if you mean 8
[02:33] <dragomir> bazhang, and thank you for your help
[02:33] <bazhang>  a !ppa can be added using a single command «  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details  dragomir
[02:33] <Resilience> hello to everyone, I want to install the ubuntu live versionon a usb stick from a windows machine, the usb stick must be reformatted to fat32 so the windows machine can read ti? right?
[02:34] <Jordan_U> dragomir: The most current available in the main repositories or the most current release of Firefox period? They will not always be the same.
[02:34] <bazhang> Resilience, using unetbootin?
[02:34] <Resilience> bazhang, yes, using unetbootin
[02:34] <bazhang> Resilience, unetbootin.sourceforge.net should have a windows version
[02:34] <dragomir> Jordan_U, I am on 10.04 not sure what version of FF came on it. I Just know that I need to update it because my wordpress control panel says so. Whatever version you recommend I guess.
[02:34] <dragomir> Sorry im new to Ubuntu
[02:35] <xangua> !fx6 | dragomir
[02:35] <xangua> the ppa already has fx8 ;)
[02:35] <Resilience> bazhang, er. ys I have dowloaded and isntaled unetbootin but.. when I insert the usb stick on the winndows machine which runs unetbootin then it doesnot revognice the usb stick ..should I reformatted the usb stick to fat32 before running unetbootin?
[02:36] <dragomir> im tring to add the software source but it wont let me
[02:36] <dragomir> under software sources/
[02:36] <bazhang> dragomir, why not use the command I gave you a link to above
[02:36] <bazhang> Resilience, its not fat32 now?
[02:37] <Resilience> bazhang, no, it is etx2 I suposse why?
[02:40] <ionstorm66> nice ip aliases are broked in 11.10
[02:40] <dragomir> bazhang, sorry the room is busy
[02:40] <dragomir> can you PM?
[02:40] <bazhang> !addppa | dragomir
[02:41] <bazhang> !fx6 | dragomir and here
[02:42] <MK``> DVD playback is extremely choppy after I've done everything on the RestrictedFormats page. I have libdvdcss2 installed, I set the region code, and I made sure DMA was on.
[02:42] <dragomir> thanks bazhang - I guess I need more help in ubuntu im very new to this.
[02:43] <drewis> just saw the news upgrading to Precise now!
[02:45] <L3d> hi folks
[02:46] <esrtougfsa> how to install real player 11 gold.deb
[02:47] <L3d> i have a question about UVD2
[02:47] <L3d> i get no vainfo .. so so i need this because i have a hd 4650 ?
[02:48] <L3d> im on catalyst 11.21
[02:50] <L3d> i can click tear free so no worries ther ..
[02:51] <L3d> and im on a dual xeon this is agp ,do i need the server version ?
[02:52] <L3d> is UVD2 restricked ,dont know if i hve some of that ,think i do ..
[02:52] <L3d> have
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> MK``: is the DVD player SATA?
[02:55] <RyuGuns> How do I set up jtvlc?
[02:55] <RyuGuns> :(
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> RyuGuns: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1348217
[02:56] <L3d> just not shure about the libva: Trying to open /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_drv_video.so part
[02:57] <L3d> nice but not my knida thing ther
[02:58] <L3d> do u know about uvs2 hadware driver acceleration ?
[02:59] <L3d> uvd2
[02:59] <L3d> got my arrow keys on asdw
[03:00] <cc11rocks> Can anyone help me with a GRUB 2 issue?
[03:01] <L3d> do u know about uvs2 hadware driver acceleration ?
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> cc11rocks: ask away
[03:01] <L3d> ehm
[03:01] <L3d> do i need this acceleration ?
[03:02] <L3d> i have catalyst but vainfo isnt here so no hardware support ?
[03:02] <L3d> does this install fglrx drivers ?
[03:03] <L3d> uvs2 does the hardware bit it think so  why isnt that here ?
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> !ati
[03:03] <L3d> i say
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> L3d: the chip is supported by yje proprietary driver offered in the hardware drivers app
[03:04] <L3d> i know i im not shure if i need this ,or if something else does this allready ..
[03:04] <twiizer> How to get java on Ubunut
[03:04] <L3d> jockey ?
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> L3d: yes
[03:04] <twiizer> How do I get Java (Not Jdk) On Ubuntu
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> twiizer: do you mean the plugin for browsers?
[03:05] <twiizer> No
[03:05] <Jordan_U> !java | twiizer
[03:05] <L3d> im using catalyst prop drivers ,so where can i see the vainfo ?
[03:05] <twiizer> Hmm
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> L3d: not sure, I don't use ati. All i know is that jockey should give what you need
[03:06] <L3d> the console tells me i need to install this ,so do i need te do so ?
[03:06] <L3d> when i use vainfo cmd ..
[03:07] <twiizer> Thanks Jordan
[03:07] <L3d> its in the ubuntu wiki not the real one tho .. heh
[03:07] <twiizer> I think this is what I needed
[03:07] <L3d> ok where is vainfo used for ?
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> L3d: not heard of it
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> !find vainfo
[03:08] <L3d> his is confirmed to work for newer RadeonHD GPU's (those with UVD2). If you have a RadeonHD 4000-series or newer, you have UVD2. To see the complete list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Video_Decoder#UVD_enabled_GPUs
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> !infp vainfo
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> !info vainfo
[03:08] <L3d> oop srry for the linky
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> L3d: this seems to mention it: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=99154
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> L3d: I'd folow from step 2
[03:09] <elagoz> السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاتة
[03:09] <L3d> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#X2.2FDual_GPU_Cards
[03:09] <elagoz> حد هنا مصرى عربى ليبى افعانى شفتشتوكانى ؟
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> L3d: obviously you already have the driver in
[03:10] <wiker> ix anyone here?
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> wiker: nobody at all
[03:10] <wiker> is anyone here?
[03:10] <L3d> this line : Hardware Video Decode Acceleration (EXPERIMENTAL)
[03:10] <cc11rocks> Can anyone help me with a GRUB 2 issue?
[03:10] <L3d> cool xbmc like my bmx
[03:10] <wiker> i'm wiker nice to meet you!
[03:10] <L3d> my .. old .. where r thay
[03:11] <wiker> what?
[03:11] <bazhang> wiker this is ubuntu support
[03:11] <bazhang> wiker do you have an ubuntu support issue
[03:11] <wiker> can i speak chinese?
[03:11] <xangua> !cn | wiker
[03:12] <wiker> sorry i don't.
[03:12] <wiker> xangua
[03:13] <wiker> where are you from?
[03:13] <bazhang> wiker, this is not the chat channel, it's ubuntu support only
[03:13] <bazhang> wiker, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[03:14] <wiker> sorry what is ubuntu channel?
[03:14] <bazhang> wiker, this one: #ubuntu
[03:14] <wiker> ?
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> cc11rocks: ask away
[03:14] <mrdeb> can u install ubuntu on kindlefire or what
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: if the OS supports the CPU, sure why not
[03:14] <bazhang> wiker #ubuntu-offtopic for chat not here
[03:14] <mrdeb> how
[03:14] <wiker> but it's a chat sorftware?
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: not sure of that
[03:15] <wiker> i'm from china
[03:15] <mrpink57> mrdeb: you would have to find a way to access as root I imagine then a way to load it via some sort of media i.e. flash drive
[03:15] <wiker> it's my first time use this ubuntu
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: it runs an ARMv7 so you may be able to get ARM Ubuntu on it
[03:16] <L3d> deff in my bookmarks now thnx ;)
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: if it can boot external media then it may be able to
[03:17] <bigjr39> what version of ubuntu would run good on a 2002 computer?
[03:17] <wiker> i'm mainjor in computer since and tec
[03:17] <mrdeb> i know it is arm but i dont know hiw to do it
[03:17] <mrdeb> how
[03:17] <mrpink57> bigjr39: I would look at xubuntu or lubuntu
[03:18] <mrdeb> big depends on memory size u have
[03:18] <mrpink57> mrdeb:  I think what most are saying is no one has done it so you would be the guinea pig to tell us how to do it.
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> bigjr39: depends on spec, not age
[03:18] <mrdeb> ok i could doit
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: you'll need to see if the device can boot external media
[03:19] <L3d> goa check libva,s and stuff buuhh
[03:20] <bigjr39> ActionParsnip: computer: Intel Celeron CPU 2.53GHz %12MB of RAM
[03:21] <L3d> tpi x11 glr ,what r these :s
[03:21] <L3d> i hot lbva1
[03:21] <L3d> have
[03:21] <L3d> no runtimes .. meh
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> bigjr39: what GPU?
[03:22] <L3d> dont want to go debian right away heh
[03:24] <ionstorm66> why dose installing openjdk-7-jre install openjdk-6-jre and set that as default?
[03:25] <bigjr39> ActionParsnip: how do i find that on XP?
[03:26] <L3d> is there no va api info in catalyst ?
[03:27] <L3d> right heh no 1gig agp card ..
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> bigjr39: device manager...
[03:28] <L3d> awkward
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> L3d: clearly nobody knows right now....try later instead of insisently spamming the channel
[03:29] <bigjr39> ActionParsnip:: doesnt semm to list it
[03:30] <L3d> i dont get it either
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> bigjr39: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/906/cpsid_90640/images/displayadapter1.JPG
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> L3d: get what?
[03:31] <L3d> this is no 2d related issue is it ??
[03:32] <bigjr39> ActionParsnip: NIVIDIA GeForce FX 5500
[03:32] <kesi> Hey guys, can anybody help me. I'm trying to install on new laptop and when I boot to usb drive, I just get a blinking cursor. I've formatted boot drive to fat32 and used two different tools to write two different ISOs without any luck
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> bigjr39: you can run a full Gnome desktop if you wish.
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> kesi: what GPU do you use?
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> kesi: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> kesi: what make and model is the laptop, and why did you not add that to the initial question?
[03:34] <kesi> ActionParsnip, I downloaded and tried two different ones, so I suspect it's okay.
[03:34] <kesi> ActionParsnip, It's an Nvidia card
[03:34] <kesi> ActionParsnip, Asus U-series
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> kesi: the ISO needs testing, you could download and infinite number of ISOs and statistically you could never get a god one
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> kesi: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[03:35] <kesi> ActionParsnip, it boots fine on other computers
[03:35] <kesi> ActionParsnip, what do I add that to?
[03:35] <bigjr39> ActionParsnip: I tried running ubuntu 11.10 but it ran slow and would freeze at times. what would you recommend?
[03:36] <L3d> do u have the main libva1 file, its the only library i need ii gues ..?
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | kesi
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> kesi: remember to MD5 test if you do not use torrents. Bad data will make a bad install media which will make issues in installation
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> bigjr39: did you install the nvidia proprietary driver
[03:37] <kesi> ActionParsnip, is there any easy way to test this? I'm a  bit new to all of this
[03:37] <shaunlewis> I have lost my audio after a bios upgrade. I have checked the controller is enabled in the BIOS settings, disable and renabled, but no jou with that, or reverting back to old version. My sound card (internal intel HDA) is shown in the lspci output, and on aplay -l. How should I go about troubleshooting this?
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> kesi: you set the boot option for the liveCD session and it will be used. That's the test
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> shaunlewis: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[03:40] <shaunlewis> I hear a crack from the speakers (which I have tested on another box) when the ubuntu start up chime should play, then nothing
[03:40] <L3d> opengl version 3.3.11 thats too old compared to the tutorial .
[03:41] <L3d> the thing is my desktop is very slow and flash doesnt play right and hd flash in full screen ..
[03:41] <fhtagn> I am trying to clean up a hosts file made from several sources, and I keep getting '127.0.0.1 localhost' twice .. using awk to do it
[03:41] <fhtagn> http://pastebin.com/trJTarvG
[03:41] <fhtagn> I know I should learn awk if I am using it, but for now I'd like it to work... any1 care to try and see what I may be missing?
[03:41] <shaunlewis> paste from ActionParsnip 's command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/758861/
[03:42] <Gabriel19> Hi
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> shaunlewis: if you run:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*     then wait a few seconds then try some sound apps, does it work ok?
[03:46] <shaunlewis> ActionParsnip; no, still no output
[03:46] <lwizardl> hello
[03:46] <L3d> is there no more 3d options like menu behavior in the new ubuntu ,then i know my gfx is working heh
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> shaunlewis: and if you run:  alsamixer    are all levels cranked and unmuted?
[03:47] <lwizardl> why is it that just about every 2 weeks i loose the plug on my laptop sound detection? sems when an update is found and applied it breaks my systems usage
[03:47] <L3d> the other way is to get it intergrated from scratch ,just like the other how-to ..
[03:47] <shaunlewis> ActionParsnip: All except front mic, yes
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> shaunlewis: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[03:48] <shaunlewis> oneiric
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> shaunlewis: try: http://pastebin.com/Ny8ejyhH
[03:50] <shaunlewis> ActionParsnip: Done. I am told all are newest version, "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> shaunlewis: yeah sorry, run: sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils libasound2
[03:52] <shaunlewis> ActionParsnip: Hmm, last lineof output is "E: Internal Error, No file name for libasound2"
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> shaunlewis: then remove that package...
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> from the command
[03:53] <WHAT_UP> this r8169 crap is a PITA
[03:53] <WHAT_UP> just getting to the download page to get the r8168 drivers takes forever
[03:55] <shaunlewis> ActionParsnip: Ok, done.  Still no sound. Would you expect me to have the libasound2 package installed, normally?
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> shaunlewis: not sure its on the sound troubleshooting page
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> shaunlewis: have you tried setting BIOS to failsafe defaults then reconfiguring from there
[03:57] <shaunlewis> Yes, I have taken the CMOS battery out as well, hopeing It might reset some setting, but no joy.
[03:58] <goddard> wanna see something funny http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/11/white-house-backed-antipiracy-video-is-reefer-madness-for-the-digital-age.ars
[03:58] <bazhang> !ot | goddard
[03:58] <shaunlewis> The only option I have which is anything to do with the sound is under southbridge configuration, "sound controller" options either "enable" or "disable". nothing else as far as I can see
[03:59] <shaunlewis> i tried disabling, rebooting, renenabling to no effect
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> shaunlewis: no irq conflicts?
[03:59] <L3d> gl&hf
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> shaunlewis: could look in: dmesg | less    to see what's going on
[04:00] <vijai> hey guys can anybody help me in bypassing my school's proxy server??
[04:00] <goddard> bazhang: thanks man i totally forgot about that
[04:00] <bazhang> vijai, no. contact your school's admin
[04:01] <vijai> real funny man
[04:01] <vijai> i mean almost everything is blocked
[04:01] <vijai> ma friends are using ultrasurf in windows machines
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> vijai: www.hidemyass.com ;)
[04:02] <vijai> thanks bud
[04:03] <vijai> but i am not sure they have blocked almost many proxy sites
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> vijai: remember this is ubuntu support too, please respect that in future
[04:07] <maheanuu> I have lost my skype applet, it is running somewhere but when I try to open skype it tells me it is already in use....   I am running Ubuntu 10.10 64 bit
[04:07] <vijai> yeah sure man i understand that
[04:07] <xangua> maheanuu: pkill skype , and start it again
[04:08] <maheanuu> xangua, from the terminal
[04:08] <xangua> there is also a skype plugin to integrate it on the message indicator so you don't lost it again maheanuu
[04:08] <xangua> but i don't know if it will work on maverick :/
[04:09] <Rayston> anyone have any idea why my Ubuntu 11.04 hates flash drives? It is incredibly slow and pauses and gets stuck constantly
[04:11] <Rayston> sorry 10.10, not 11.04
[04:11] <maheanuu> xangua, thanks much... I am a noob and still learning...  I will see if i can find the plug in Synaptic
[04:11] <xangua> maheanuu: i don't think is on it, i saw a post about it on the omg!ubuntu! blog
[04:12] <xangua> or it was webupd8¿ :/
[04:12] <maheanuu> Rayston, I have the same prob using 10.10 i run for a few seconds up to a minute then lock up
[04:12] <Rayston> hmm, yeah, if I am patient and let it sit, it will usually eventually work, but it can literally take hours to fill up an 8gb flash drive
[04:12] <maheanuu> xangua, link?
[04:13] <bsmith093> i have an extremely large text file that i need to trim the first 206000 lines off of the front, how would i do that
[04:13] <escott> bsmith093, man tail
[04:13] <xangua> maheanuu: google webupd8 or omgubuntu ¿
[04:14] <maheanuu> xangua, ok brb
[04:14] <escott> bsmith093, to use tail you have to run wc first, you could also use sed 1-206000d
[04:14] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/
[04:15] <dimas_> after upgrading ubuntu i try open kdenlive and it says can not fine the module SDL of MLT
[04:17] <dmorfin> escott: you don't have to run wc first
[04:17] <dmorfin> bsmith093: tail -n +206001 file.txt > file2.txt
[04:17] <maheanuu> Xangua, is that the Skype wrapper??
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> maheanuu: instead of asking for lnks, try find them yourself
[04:18] <rafael_> lol
[04:18] <maheanuu> Thanks AC
[04:18] <escott> dmorfin, thanks i couldn't find the + in tail manual
[04:19] <dmorfin> it is in there somewhere, but def not as obv as it could be for something that's pretty useful
[04:19] <rafael_> quit
[04:20] <xangua> maheanuu: looks like, and it also has a ppa for Maverick ;) .... but not for lucid wich i use D:
[04:20] <escott> dmorfin, yeah its buried in a paragraph and not treated as an option. its one of those things where you think "it has to be able to do this, why isn't it obvious how"
[04:20] <html> lucid means?
[04:21] <bfig> well, i think i'm on a live cd now
[04:21] <bazhang> !lucid | html
[04:21] <escott> !codename | html
[04:21] <intick> !help
[04:21] <bfig> i'm on knoppix
[04:21] <bfig> so, how do i set up persistent usb storage? i want to install stuff
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> bfig: knoppix isn't supported here
[04:21] <bazhang> !usb | bfig
[04:22] <bfig> ActionParsnip: this isn't related to knoppix in particular i think
[04:22] <bazhang> bfig, check the last link above
[04:22] <maheanuu> xangua, I am going to install it and see if that does the trick , appreciate your help...
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> bfig: if you want help with knoppix then it is offtopic here, this is Ubuntu support only
[04:22] <bfig> oops ubuntu! thought i joined #linux
[04:22] <bfig> sorry :)
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> thanks :)
[04:23] <bfig> lol... again.
[04:23] <html> bazhang,  thanks, so 10.04 doesnt have a ppa, and or a .deb  (like .exe)  but 10.10 does?
[04:23] <bazhang> html, for what
[04:24] <html> package management
[04:24] <html> how its set  up
[04:24] <bazhang> html, ppa is a personal package archive
[04:24] <bazhang> !ppa | html
[04:24] <bazhang> !addppa | html
[04:24] <bazhang> html, so yes it supports adding ppa
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> html: deb is not similar to exe, the things the deb installs give apps and such, the contents of /usr/bin are similar to windows binaries
[04:25] <html> ok, when did .deb  come on the stage? bazhang
[04:26] <VIPER-II> hi there
[04:26] <bazhang> html, no idea, you are the one who mentioned it
[04:28] <html> ActionParsnip,  i said it said it so have a point make sense, not for Similarity  purposes
[04:29] <OerHeks> a .deb is more like .msi
[04:29] <VIPER-II> I'm trying to setup a construction where.... when I remotely login with my client-PC onto a Ubuntu-PC, I can actualy surf to a site and let it download directly onto that Ubuntu-host. So i can turn off my client-PC while it continue downloading on the Ubuntu-host. Does this exist?
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> VIPER-II: why not install fatrat and use it's web UI to start downloads
[04:30] <VIPER-II> Actionparsnip: cuz i'm a bit new to ubuntu and didn't know.
[04:30]  * VIPER-II slaps himself!
[04:31] <VIPER-II> Fatrat, heh?
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> VIPER-II: it's cool, fatrat is pretty sweet
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> VIPER-II: you can check it's progress, when it's done you can copy the file over with sshfs / samba etc
[04:31] <VIPER-II> :)))))))
[04:32] <html> bazhang,  just wondering when ubuntu started using .deb packaging .....  i saw the linuxactionshow , or the hosts that run it,in a linux distro meeting  and this was one of the topics..
[04:32] <VIPER-II> sounds interesting.... REALLY interesting. :)
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> VIPER-II: looks like this: http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/S6tpGgYQiPI/AAAAAAAAAqo/00RTGZMIPVo/Screenshot004.png
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> VIPER-II: obviously you will connect to the hosts IP address, but the same port 2233
[04:33] <VIPER-II> that sounds like what i'm looking for.
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> VIPER-II: you may need to enable the web UI and you can set a password to help keep peeps out
[04:34] <VIPER-II> It must download from a HTTP site, though instead of torrent
[04:34] <VIPER-II> but it looks like that wont be a problem for it.
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> VIPER-II: it does both :)
[04:34] <VIPER-II> he's a FatRat indeed.  heheh
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> i use transmission for torrents though
[04:34] <VIPER-II> lemme go fetch and nourish the rat.  brb
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> it has a web UI too :)
[04:34] <VIPER-II> i'm affraid of torrents lately.
[04:35] <VIPER-II> Dunno how to spot those 'honeypots' that Paramount picture sets up inside the torrents to sniff out your IP.
[04:35] <VIPER-II> so i'm sticking to Usenet
[04:38] <Rayston> anyone here do seedboxes?
[04:39] <Rayston> I torrent enough to maybe make it worth it, and would rather not go back to Usenet
[04:40] <cipherboy> Hello
[04:40] <VIPER-II> Actionparsnip: installation is a bit odd though. It seems that you can enable it with different posibilities. So i have to do: cmake . -DWITH_BITTORRENT=ON -DWITH_SFTP=ON
[04:40] <VIPER-II> crap....
[04:41] <VIPER-II> i meant:   cmake . -WITH_CURL=ON
[04:41] <VIPER-II> right?
[04:41] <escott> VIPER-II, run stuff inside screen
[04:42] <asus> asus
[04:42] <A|i3N> Can someone please tell me what I would use to manipulate MS Viseo templates with? Will the openoffice suite do it? Cause it doesn't look like Libre will.
[04:42] <maheanuu> Viper-II does fatrat work with transmission?
[04:42] <escott> A|i3N, maybe dia?
[04:44] <A|i3N> Alright I'll try that, thank you escott.
[04:45] <html> Rayston, what are seed boxes?
[04:46] <Rayston> html : its basically a way to torrent from a foreign connection, there are various advantages, but the main one is probably that if someone issues a C&D letter, it goes to the ISP of the seedbox, which are typically in other countries
[04:46] <runaway> Hi All
[04:46] <Rayston> there are also some speed advantages
[04:47] <Rayston> c&D=Cease and Desist=letter asking you to stop pirating
[04:48] <colloquialismic> hey guys
[04:48] <colloquialismic> i was curious....
[04:48] <colloquialismic> has anyone here tried macbuntu on a ubuntu 10.04?
[04:48] <escott> colloquialismic, good thing you aren't now :-P
[04:49] <colloquialismic> escott, i always will be inquisitive :)
[04:49] <html> Rayston,  pm me if you like i still want to know more
[04:50] <colloquialismic> i tried the macubuntu 10.04 and after 2 restarts... i logged in and instead of the thing logging me into the GUI. i got a white terminal to the upper left...
[04:50] <colloquialismic> i had no idea what to do
[04:50] <colloquialismic> any ideas escott
[04:51] <VIPER-II> Actionparsnip: any chance that i can talk to ya in private?
[04:51] <escott> colloquialismic, sorry i don't buy apple anything
[04:51] <html> colloquialismic,  but there must be a hunger  for inquisitive to work ..... but i like your attitude
[04:51] <colloquialismic> escott, now... why is that? i know you have a reason :)
[04:52] <colloquialismic> hehe html
[04:52] <colloquialismic> yesh... escott i think we may agree on the reasoning you may hold, possibly
[04:52] <colloquialismic> i just wanted to see a diff look, something cool
[04:52] <escott> colloquialismic, locked down overpriced hardware
[04:52] <colloquialismic> any "cool" themes ?
[04:52] <html> colloquialismic,  so what do you want with mac-you-bunt-too?
[04:53] <colloquialismic> lol
[04:53] <A|i3N> Escott, that didn't seem to even want to open it. Anyone else? I've got a .vst (MS Visio Template) I need to work on
[04:53] <colloquialismic> html,  i was curious
[04:53] <colloquialismic> escott, what is your opinion on the "best" laptop then?
[04:53] <colloquialismic> i mean... i do not need a tower "desktop" eve
[04:54] <colloquialismic> ever* i am all portable
[04:54] <VIPER-II> anyone here has any experience installing Fatrat with 'cmake' ?
[04:54] <colloquialismic> and i have TB drives, so... it is just a matter of the best hardware. any ideas on the best? good quality at a reasonable price?
[04:54] <escott> A|i3N, i don't know how many developers out there are even trying to reverse engineer visio files. it may not be possible
[04:55] <colloquialismic> !Themes
[04:55] <colloquialismic> yeah :D
[04:55] <KardJohnson> Needs more GTK+ Steam Friends client.
[04:55] <escott> colloquialismic, i've been fairly impressed with the asus i have at the moment. well priced, standard hardware, and who cares if its plastic if it works. my girlfriends hp envy... biggest waste of money ever
[04:56] <colloquialismic> yes
[04:56] <colloquialismic> i agree man ha
[04:56] <colloquialismic> ok, i like asus
[04:56] <colloquialismic> especially asses
[04:56] <colloquialismic> woah
[04:56] <html> colloquialismic,  hardware, well im your guy,  just tell me what you want to do and the biggest heavy load youll put it under
[04:57] <colloquialismic> ok
[04:57] <colloquialismic> i want a computer where i can do basic computing with the ability to make HD youtube videos. i am going into penetration testing so, i focus on speed and networking (good cards,etc) and thats it really
[04:57] <colloquialismic> i just need my ubuntu and i will be ok
[04:59] <HelloWorld321> I've installed two programs through the Ubuntu Software Center, and I don't see them now, even after rebooting.  One is NetBeans.  The Software Center says it's installed, but using the superkey and typing in "netbeans", I can't find it.  How do I start up netbeans?
[04:59] <colloquialismic> sudo netbeans
[04:59] <colloquialismic> lol
[04:59] <html> colloquialismic,  a buget gaming computer  is a nice allround start and VERY scaleable, i thing i have a blue print if you want a good one
[05:00] <mactrent_> HelloWorld321, You may need to start it using the <alt>-F2 combination, then pin it to Unity.
[05:00] <escott> HelloWorld321, sudo updatedb; then locate netbeans
[05:01] <root_______> how do I compile my packages for maximum efficency?
[05:02] <escott> root_______, #gentoo
[05:02] <Flannel> root_______: For maximum efficiency, use the packages in the repositories.
[05:02] <escott> !ircroot | root_______
[05:02] <escott> !rootirc | root_______
[05:02] <root_______> @escott: root?
[05:03] <Flannel> escott: He's on webchat, he picked that nick.
[05:03] <jtokarchuk> r00t
[05:03] <escott> root_______, one assumes that your nick is related to your username, as that is the default for many clients.
[05:04] <HelloWorld321> escott: according to "locate netbeans", it is in usr/share/platform12
[05:05] <pc-moon> hello hope all is ok , i wanna good chanalle for php helper
[05:14] <guest_> hello, I am struggling to figure this out. I have an HDD that has 15 partitions each with a different linux os. Each os has a grub /boot directory with a menu.lst file. I am trying to find out which one is the one grub is using to boot ?
[05:15] <KatsumeBlisk> guest_,  Do you know the most recent installation? Also, why 15? lol
[05:15] <escott> guest_, there is a bootinfo script that can tell you
[05:16] <escott> guest_, http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/
[05:16] <bobweaver> guest_: sudo fdisk -l
[05:17] <guest_> I want to test out booting many os's no partitcular reason for 15.
[05:17] <bobweaver> the one with the * is boot I think Oo
[05:17] <guest_> None of the menu.lst in any of the partitions has all the entries but when I boot I see all 15 to select from?
[05:18] <guest_> Could grub be using all of them is that possible?
[05:19] <guest_> guest@guest:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[05:19] <guest_> Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
[05:19] <guest_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
[05:19] <guest_> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[05:19] <guest_> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[05:19] <FloodBot1> guest_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:19] <guest_> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[05:21] <tash> any advice on vpn software? client wants to be able to vpn from home ... all they have for servers are 2 ubuntu boxes
[05:21] <guest_> try openvpn or if you want to pay get cisco's vpn
[05:21] <tash> client wants to create a tunnel session, be able to Remote Desktop from home PC to office PC, access network shares, etc.
[05:21] <tash> guest_: i'll look into openvpn for now. Ever set it up?
[05:23] <guest_> once but the ubuntu site makes it pretty easy to understand
[05:24] <guest_> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/openvpn.html
[05:25] <guest_> well is their any grub experts that know the difference between what update-grub and install-grub do differently?
[05:26] <lighta> hey what's the cli internet navigator name again ?
[05:26] <reisio> guest_: update-grub is for updating the config file, AIUI
[05:26] <Hatori> Yeah,that very different
[05:26] <reisio> grub-install is for installing GRUB to the MBR
[05:26] <mactrent_> lighta, linx
[05:26] <reisio> install-grub I don't know anything about
[05:26] <reisio> but if it exists it probably has a man page or -help output
[05:26] <mactrent_> lighta, lynx.  Sorry.
[05:27] <reisio> lighta: lynx, links, elinks, w3m
[05:27] <guest_> meant grub-install
[05:27] <HelloWorld321> Can you connect to Cisco AnyConnect vpn with OpenConnect?
[05:27] <lighta> yeah w3m, thx folks
[05:27] <Hatori> Install grub for installing grub
[05:28] <reisio> actually update-grub probably does a little more than just the config
[05:28] <reisio> I think grub-mkconfig does only the config
[05:28]  * reisio shrugs
[05:28] <Jordan_U> guest_: Only one grub.cfg (grub2) or menu.lst (grub legacy) is generally read at boot. Which that is depends on which distribution last ran grub-install to install their grub to the mbr.
[05:28] <reisio> but update-grub is the Ubuntu way
[05:28] <guest_> well, I am curious if I issued grub-install would it kill my configurations files for my 15 os's?
[05:29] <Jordan_U> reisio: update-grub basically just calls "grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg".
[05:31] <reisio> Jordan_U: basically?
[05:31] <reisio> I guess that _is_ a complex looking command to newbies
[05:31] <OerHeks> guest_, there is one way to find out.
[05:31] <reisio> guest_: no, grub-install installs GRUB to the beginning of the disk where system files do not live
[05:32] <reisio> guest_: update-grub or grub-mkconfig could screw up your config, though
[05:33] <RickRoller> how do i change my hostname? (the name of the machine on login)
[05:34] <reisio> RickRoller: I'm assuming: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html#static-hostnames
[05:34] <almoxarife> RickRoller: change it in /etc/host
[05:34] <guest_> well , kind of screwed up my config files for grub and even the first mbr code for grub is not really working very well any more
[05:35] <almoxarife> RickRoller: change it in /etc/hostname :)
[05:35] <guest_> This is why I am trying to find out how to reinstall grub and have it display a menu of my 15 os's again?
[05:35] <guest_> use hostname command as well
[05:36] <RickRoller> how can i check existing groups?
[05:36] <RickRoller> (not ones i am in()
[05:37] <almoxarife> RickRoller: good question, I would like to know the samething, how is it done now?
[05:39] <telurico> hi, i need help, im form Mexico, there are people who can help Mexican?
[05:40] <aeon-ltd> telurico: in spanish?
[05:40] <almoxarife> telurico: yes
[05:40] <telurico> si
[05:40] <aeon-ltd> !es | telurico
[05:40] <telurico> thx
[05:41] <CarlFK> RickRoller: http://dpaste.de/awUBR/  python code I use to change a box's hostname
[05:41] <reisio> wish I spoke mexican
[05:41] <telurico> no have people in channel XD
[05:41] <telurico> My problem is with a wireless card :(
[05:41] <reisio> telurico: there're 34 people in there, but your English is pretty decent
[05:42] <telurico> Tp-link 321g v. 4, you helpme Almoxafire
[05:42] <telurico> plz =(,
[05:42] <RickRoller> HOW CAN I LIST ALL GROUPS?
[05:42] <almoxarife> telurico: what's the card not doing?
[05:42] <snowcoffee> Hello everyboby
[05:44] <snowcoffee> whois almoxarife
[05:44] <telurico> no hvei do not know how install the driver for the network card
[05:44] <telurico> the netword card is -->> TP-LINK WN321G
[05:45] <telurico> i do not know how install the driver for the network card*
[05:46] <telurico> look plz
[05:46] <almoxarife> telurico: what version of ubuntu?
[05:47] <telurico> i have Xubuntu 10.04.2
[05:47] <telurico> iwconfig say: wlan1     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:off/any
[05:48] <maahes> how do I restart pulseaudio? pulseaudio -k doesn't kill it, neither does killall pulseaudio, and pulseaudio --check returns nothing, even when there are still running pulseaudio processes.
[05:48] <almoxarife> telurico: what driver is presently installed?
[05:49] <BlackDalek> I have a question - is it possible to connect two bluetooth headphones to one computer so that two people can listen?
[05:50] <colloquialismic> i do not believe so
[05:50] <telurico> i Have not installed any, I Just recently installed xbuntu
[05:50] <colloquialismic> BlackDalek, No sir
[05:50] <BlackDalek> That's what I thought.
[05:51] <savask> Hello. How can I install human gtk theme on ubuntu oneric?
[05:51] <telurico> i have new user, but is I tried to install the driver using ndiswrapper
[05:52] <scorpion19> have u checked all the settings already?
[05:53] <almoxarife> telurico: is the wifi usb adapter plugged in?
[05:53] <BlackDalek> ok.. another question... Is it possible to output the audio from one machine simultaneously to both a bluetooth headphone AND a wired headphone plugged into the headphones socket?
[05:53] <telurico> is usb adapter
[05:53] <maahes> is there any way to completely kill whatever is causing pulseaudio to restart as a daemon? All things I use to try and kill it, restart the daemon and I still have no sound.
[05:54] <almoxarife> telurico: is the wifi usb adapter plugged in?
[05:54] <telurico> is usb adapter
[05:54] <telurico> almoxarife is usb dapter
[05:54] <telurico> wireless card usb adapter
[05:54] <almoxarife> telurico: is the wifi usb adapter plugged in? <-- that is a 'yes' or 'no' question
[05:55] <scorpion19> yes?
[05:55] <telurico> yes
[05:55] <almoxarife> :)
[05:55] <telurico> sorry :$, YES
[05:55] <scorpion19> wow what are the odds
[05:55] <scorpion19> XD
[05:55] <CarlFK> BlackDalek: yes
[05:56] <almoxarife> telurico: lsusb | grep -i wire   <-- type that in a terminal, you should get a response, type it in
[05:58] <BlackDalek> Do I need to do anything fancy to get an application to output sound to both the stereo headphone port AND a bluetooth headset?
[05:58] <telurico> almoxarife, no have response
[05:59] <reisio> BlackDalek: not that fancy I wouldn't think
[05:59] <html> blackchook,  huh?
[05:59] <reisio> BlackDalek: I'd probably guess nothing at all, actually
[05:59] <telurico> i copy and paste and enter and no response
[05:59] <reisio> why should bluetooth audio mute physical connections
[05:59] <reisio> physical connections don't, after all
[06:00] <html> blackchook,  huh? what you looking to do with it?
[06:00] <reisio> when I plug my headphones in the other cable leading to my stereo speakers still works
[06:00] <Tannerbaum> ok
[06:00] <Tannerbaum> i know this isn't #ubuntu-server
[06:00] <reisio> Tannerbaum: gj
[06:01] <reisio> :D
[06:01] <Tannerbaum> but why would I be getting permission denied on a socket when running it as root?
[06:01] <BlackDalek> reisio, I am just wondering, because if I look at sound preferences under output is a radio buttons, which means I can only choose 1 output device at a time....
[06:01] <Tannerbaum> i even chmod 777 to see if that fixes it, but it reverts itself to 755
[06:01] <jrib> Tannerbaum: the more specific you are, the more likely someone can help you
[06:01] <Tannerbaum> this is fastcgi wrapper
[06:01] <cntrational> my speakers don't turn on automatically when I unplug my headphones <.< what do
[06:02] <reisio> BlackDalek: I'm sure pulse can manage both at once
[06:02] <telurico> almoxarife, where are you =(?
[06:02] <reisio> BlackDalek: and again, I would guess without pulse ALSA would do this by default
[06:03] <html> jrib, Tannerbaum, agree.. and the more info too... software, hardware, os
[06:04] <BlackDalek> reisio, ok thanks... and if I can ever find my bluetooth headphones, I will test this theory out ;)
[06:04] <jrib> Tannerbaum: yes, give background, then say exactly what you do, not "this" and "that" when "this" and "that" are not clear for example...
[06:04] <reisio> I love my bluetooth headphones
[06:04] <almoxarife> telurico: restart the machine and then type           lsusb | grep -i wire                 in a terminal
[06:04] <reisio> especially when combined with my phone
[06:05] <telurico> ok, I will restart and be back to chat, please wait for me
[06:05] <Tannerbaum> jrib: I'm trying to get nagios working with nginx + fastcgi wrapper. it gives me a 502, I check the error logs, and they say permission denied for the socket. when I try to chmod 777 the socket, it works, but then when I start the wrapper it reverts back to 755
[06:06] <CainMadness> Wondering if someone can help me with some wireless issues? ( Running Kuki for my Acer Aspire One. )
[06:07] <reisio> kuki?
[06:07] <reisio> CainMadness: what issues
[06:07] <CainMadness> Modifed version of Ubuntu, for netbooks.
[06:07] <scorpion19> yeah wat issues?
[06:07] <CainMadness> Well, it can't find my wireless adapter, so I can't get interwebs on it.
[06:07] <CainMadness> iwconfig keeps saying no wireless extensions.
[06:08] <scorpion19> interwebs seriously?
[06:08] <CainMadness> Ya rly.
[06:08] <reisio> scorpion19: not a big truck
[06:09] <OerHeks> you better join #kukilinux
[06:09] <CainMadness> I have. It's beem empty for the past two days.
[06:09] <reisio> CainMadness: what you have to do is not say you aren't using vanilla Ubuntu :p
[06:09] <scorpion19> ha ha ha!!! rly funny
[06:10] <CainMadness> Or I could just, you know, expect help.
[06:10] <dark01> wc
[06:10] <almoxarife> CainMadness: yes, you should at #kuki
[06:11] <reisio> CainMadness: would probably get warned by an op just for helping you
[06:11] <reisio> (here)
[06:11] <CainMadness> Again, #KukiLinux has been empty for the last two days.
[06:11] <reisio> CainMadness: try now
[06:12] <almoxarife> kukilinux? really?
[06:13] <scorpion19> wats up with kukilinux??
[06:14] <guest_> does anybody know what could cause this or what this error means
[06:14] <guest_> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'
[06:14] <guest_> I just did sudo grub-mkconfig
[06:14] <telurico> ahhh friend!! XD, no have respnse
[06:14] <telurico> response =(
[06:15] <telurico> Hi almoxarife
[06:16] <guest_> I trashed my partitions by accident and I recovered them all with testdisk
[06:16] <A|i3N> Argh!!!! Anyone good with graphic/PDF Editing??!?!??! i'm having issues for a job i'm doing on fiverr LOL
[06:16] <guest_> But the bootloader wont boot any of them any more
[06:17] <guest_> so if I use sudo grub-install /dev/sda I get Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[06:18] <almoxarife> telurico: I have no idea where to go from here, someone might though
[06:18] <guest_> I can view all my partitions in nautilus but in gparted it has the drive marked as unallocated WTF?
[06:19] <scorpion19> buy a new HD
[06:19] <scorpion19> u know the drill
[06:19] <scorpion19> XD
[06:21] <guest_> Well , I know how to fix it but I want to see how you can do it with out having to backup and repartition,reformat , and reinstall. It should be a way to install grub or put grub on a floppy or usb and boot into any of these partitions.
[06:22] <zeroblock> hello all
[06:22] <scorpion19> well hello
[06:23] <WHAT_UP1> my window manager crashed! how do i restart it?
[06:23] <zeroblock> WHAT_UP1: reboot?
[06:23] <KatsumeBlisk> <insert WM> --restart
[06:23] <guest_> startx will start your x11 , windows , desktop manager
[06:24] <zeroblock> does Ubuntu can run siriproxy? I will do replace my OSX to ubuntu if it can
[06:24] <guest_> if you have an .xinitrc file you can use xinit to restart
[06:24] <GhostWolf> does anyone know how in terminal i can install or check updates after adding a ppa?
[06:24] <zeroblock> GhostWolf: sudo apt-get update?
[06:24] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostFreeman: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:24] <zeroblock> or apt-get upgrade
[06:25] <GhostFreeman> what
[06:25] <guest_> Or startx -- :1 ,2 3, ... etc to start multiple desktop sessions on different ctrl+alt+f7,8,9,...etc
[06:25] <GhostWolf> ah thats it zeroblock i tend to forget i don't need to upgrade just updates. its a ppa i added to see if i did it correctly
[06:25] <zeroblock> GhostWolf: so you have to get ppa's key to make it work on update list of apt-get
[06:26] <KatsumeBlisk> Quick question: Do  you need to "apt-get update" before "apt-get upgrade"? I've just done it out of habit and haven't known if it's necessary.
[06:26] <GhostWolf> zeroblock, i know
[06:26] <WHAT_UP1> KatsumeBlisk: metacity --replace worked! thanks!
[06:26] <zeroblock> KatsumeBlisk: update first than upgrade?
[06:26] <zeroblock> GhostWolf: ;)
[06:26] <KatsumeBlisk> zeroblock: Basically update repo list and upgrade
[06:26] <Starminn> Hello all, I have a problem with web pages not displaying correctly. For example, in Opera, a search result yields this: http://imagebin.org/186894 with a similar effect with Firefox. Chrome/ium, however, behave normally. Assistance?
[06:26] <zeroblock> KatsumeBlisk: Oh
[06:27] <KatsumeBlisk> zeroblock: apt-get update just reloads the repos you have which means any added ppas are included.
[06:27] <zeroblock> so when I should use upgrade command
[06:27] <zeroblock> ?
[06:28] <KatsumeBlisk> zeroblock: upgrade updates the packages installed
[06:29] <zeroblock> KatsumeBlisk:  O I see, so upgrade only use on update packages & install newer version.
[06:29] <GhostWolf> hmm. i don't know if i got this program that i supposed to isntall via ppa repos
[06:30] <KatsumeBlisk> zeroblock: Yep.
[06:30] <scorpion19> which one?
[06:30] <GhostWolf> its called handbrake, its a program that allows me to convert videos so i can play them on my smartphone
[06:30] <almoxarife> Starminn: use chromium then?
[06:31] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostFreeman: I believe Handbrake doesn't have an Oneiric package yet. I just tried that an hour ago. XD
[06:31] <GhostWolf> KatsumeBlisk, you're typing a wrong nick
[06:31] <GhostFreeman> yeah you're tabbing too soon
[06:31] <zeroblock> LOL
[06:31] <GhostFreeman> it happens to the best of us
[06:31] <GhostWolf> plus im reading from the site of handbrake about it
[06:31] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: Lol. At least you saw it.
[06:32] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: The launchpad only has packages up to Natty
[06:32] <GhostWolf> well second time i saw you did it but only reason i know you meant me cause of what i was using
[06:32] <GhostWolf> and thats what im using im not using 11.10
[06:32] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: Ahh. Should work then. I'll just shut up now.
[06:32] <scorpion19> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1876100
[06:32] <scorpion19> thats for the handbrake
[06:34] <Starminn> almoxarife, I'd rather actually fix the problem. This isn't Windows.
[06:34] <GhostWolf> KatsumeBlisk, do you know how to add the ppa repos ? cause it tells me theres 2 lines for my version of ubuntu to add to my system's sources, i thought doing that in term was what you supposed to do
[06:34] <guest_> if you have a gui based front end for apt-get like synaptic that may be a little easy to download/install handbrake since if the main server is down you can switch to another server
[06:35] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:stebbins/handbrake-releases && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install handbrake" in the terminal. That'll add the repo and install handbrake.
[06:35] <GhostWolf> KatsumeBlisk, let me show you the site im looking at.
[06:36] <guest_> up that will work KatsumeBlisk that command just adds to the source.list file
[06:36] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: What I just told you came from the Handbrake page, so it'll work. It's a faster way to add it to sources.
[06:36] <GhostWolf> https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-releases when clicking the technical link and select  my os, it tells me to copy the 2 lines and it has deb and deb-src infront
[06:37] <html> i think thats for the keys
[06:37] <almoxarife> Starminn: alrighty then, I would suggest you invest some time then into, 'font' selection criteria of the various web browsers as related to correct rendering by chromium verses all the other possible web browsers available
[06:37] <GhostWolf> KatsumeBlisk, the site im looking at doesn't show what you just pasted
[06:37] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: Up above that has the ppa though. PPAs are an easier way to add repos.
[06:37] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: The page you linked has the ppa. I just showed you the command that adds it and installs the package
[06:38] <GhostWolf> and that link is from handbrake itself.
[06:38] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: Yes.
[06:38] <GhostWolf> after i clicked on ubuntu
[06:38] <excelsio1> So how do I institutionalize my move of an organization from Windows to Ubuntu/Lubuntu, make it permanent that is, when I leave as it's consultant/assistant director?
[06:38] <Starminn> almoxarife, Done. No difference.
[06:39] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: Just paste what the command in quotes I told you to do it.
[06:39] <excelsio1> its, I mean...
[06:39] <GhostWolf> ok....
[06:39] <html> excelsio1, huh????
[06:39] <GhostWolf> i really was trying to do it from what i read but shrugs
[06:39] <guest_> or you can open synaptic and go to settings/repository and add a repository under the other software tab
[06:39] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: What I told you to do is faster and does the same thing.
[06:40] <scorpion19> does anyone know how to pass throught  the authentication of a router/modem(the http one...i mean username/password authentication)
[06:40] <GhostWolf> i sometimes don't want faster but just trying to do things right way.
[06:40] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: It's taking advantage of one of Ubuntu's best features, PPAs.
[06:41] <excelsio1> I just have a deep feeling that when I do leave, someone, maybe even the Executive Director, is going to get someone else to install W7 or W8 (probably illicitly) on the computers, wiping out Ubuntu.
[06:41] <guest_> pass thru the router/modem do you mean port forwarding I am not understanding your question
[06:41] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: The alternative is to take those two "dev <url>" things you had, go into Synaptic, Settings>>Repos>> Other Software and add those
[06:41] <html> GhostWolf,  so your trying to learn the varying ways of installing things?
[06:41] <almoxarife> KatsumeBlisk: that 'best' feature bites back in upgrades
[06:41] <reisio> excelsio1: padlocks ftw
[06:41] <KatsumeBlisk> It's just more steps.
[06:41] <GhostWolf> html yes
[06:41] <jay> how do i use small caps in libre office?
[06:42] <KatsumeBlisk> almoxarife: How's this different than adding the repos in synaptic like he was asking?
[06:42] <reisio> Guest4910: interesting nick change...
[06:42] <reisio> did you check the Help menu?
[06:42] <GhostWolf> and since i not always here i only come in when i need help its what i wanted to do is add them.
[06:42] <scorpion19> yeah i used to have the password but they changed it
[06:42] <excelsio1> reisio: hardy har, anyone have some change management suggestions? I feel like I'm Chef Ramsey and they're a recalcitrant restaurant...
[06:43] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: And the way I told you to do it is how the Handbrake devs say to do it.
[06:43] <scorpion19> its  in order to configure the ports...
[06:43] <almoxarife> KatsumeBlisk: for one, in synaptic you get to see them ppa's that will bite you in the ....... later
[06:43] <GhostWolf> KatsumeBlisk, i understand that. but not all the time im going to remember doing something "easy" way. if i had to add a ppa it be easier for me to remember to where to add them
[06:43] <reisio> excelsio1: you'll have to convince the people in charge
[06:44]  * almoxarife does not apologize for wanting to use a gui when ever there is one avail
[06:44] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: I don't understand you're problem with this. The "easy" way is the proper way through the command line to add PPAs. The command is "sudo apt-add-repository <ppa here>" and to update the repos on your system is "sudo apt-get update".
[06:45] <excelsio1> I think the only way to do that is to collect on the licenses bounties.
[06:45] <GhostWolf> KatsumeBlisk, im saying i won't remember it.
[06:45] <GhostWolf> i can remember going to synaptic and adding the ppa there but not the command lines
[06:45] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: Write it down somewhere. :P You probably won't remember how to do it if there's a GUI
[06:45] <bazhang> !addppa | GhostWolf bookmark this then
[06:45] <bazhang> excelsio1, thats outside ubuntu technical support
[06:45] <GhostWolf> sighs.. thats not the point..
[06:46] <almoxarife> !synaptic | bazhang
[06:46] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: We're not getting your point. XD
[06:46] <bazhang> GhostWolf, and it's on each and every ppa page
[06:46] <GhostWolf> obviously KatsumeBlisk and im getting irritated..
[06:46] <bazhang> almoxarife, the ppa are disabled on upgrade of version, so it's not an issue
[06:47] <GhostWolf> i just asked how to add it to my system source
[06:47] <grape_> what is the best way to get acclamated to command line. and at the point, would other distro be more convenient?
[06:47] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: Don't get mad at us if you ask for help and we give you an answer you don't like.
[06:47] <GhostWolf> instead of fully installing it in one swift move
[06:47] <Lafiir> Oh my. I tried logging in with "Recovery console" and "User-defined session" to see what those do. Now my Unity no longer starts the Launcher or the Indicator-Panel. What did I break and how do I fix it?
[06:47] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: "sudo apt-add-repository && sudo apt-get update" is how...
[06:47] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: I just said that.
[06:47] <GhostWolf> ffs..
[06:48] <almoxarife> bazhang: the issue is not disabling ppa's, the issue is that once the ppa cripples the virgin expected install, the upgrade script hangs
[06:48] <KatsumeBlisk> GhostWolf: oops. Add the ppa in between "repository" and "&&"
[06:48] <Guest4910> why is my nick not right?
[06:48] <Guest4910> i authenticated
[06:48] <KatsumeBlisk> Guest4910: Maybe not fast enough?
[06:48] <Guest4910> exsplain?
[06:48] <cc11rocks> Can you guys help me with a GRUB 2 problem?
[06:48] <bazhang> !manual | grape_
[06:49] <KatsumeBlisk> almoxarife: In my experience, upgrades to different versions never work as expected
[06:49] <excelsio1> bazhang: are you suggesting we take this to #ubuntu-offtopic ???
[06:49] <KatsumeBlisk> Guest4910: You didn't authenticate with NickServ fast enough
[06:49] <bazhang> grape_, repeated usage, apt-get is quite the easiest
[06:49] <excelsio1> !ot
[06:49] <bazhang> excelsio1, yes
[06:49] <cc11rocks> So I set up "/" "/home" "swap" and "boot"
[06:49] <excelsio1> ok, going there now, please follow if you have some good advice!
[06:49] <KatsumeBlisk> cc11rocks: Yes?
[06:50] <cc11rocks> When I tried to do the full install, it told me there was a grub error, and I couldn't install grub on "boot"
[06:50] <cc11rocks> I installed on "swap"
[06:50] <sprinklz> oh i was authed but needed to re nick
[06:50] <cc11rocks> Now, when I run "df -h" this pops up
[06:50] <cc11rocks> cc11rocks@cc11rocks-1005HA ~ $ df -h
[06:50] <cc11rocks> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[06:50] <cc11rocks> /dev/sda6             9.2G  4.5G  4.3G  52% /
[06:50] <cc11rocks> udev                  488M  4.0K  488M   1% /dev
[06:50] <cc11rocks> tmpfs                 199M  1.0M  198M   1% /run
[06:50] <FloodBot1> cc11rocks: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:50] <cc11rocks> none                  5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[06:50] <cc11rocks> none                  497M  372K  497M   1% /run/shm
[06:50] <sprinklz> now then how to i make small caps in libre office?
[06:50] <almoxarife> :) boy is he going to be surprised
[06:50] <grape_> is ubuntu an attempt to get free open source software on all computers? at this point it seems to be more user friendly than windows
[06:51] <almoxarife> sprinklz: what is a 'small cap'?
[06:51] <tauquir> Hello! I am trying to connect with broadband using pppoeconf but it gives me:  Sorry, I scanned 3 interfaces, but the Access Concentrator of your provider did not respond. Please  check your network and modem cables. Another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process which controls the modem.
[06:51] <cc11rocks> What is considered a flood? A bunch of messages or a bunch of text in one message? Or both?
[06:51] <Starminn> almoxarife, I've fixed the problem. I identified that the problem appeared to stem from fonts in the "mscorefonts" area, so I ran "sudo apt-get purge ttf-mscorefonts-installer" then ran "sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer" and wen through the installation. Once completed, I checked in both Opera and Firefox, and the problem was solved.
[06:51] <sprinklz> almoxarife: its like caps but smaller
[06:52] <Starminn> almoxarife, Thank you for your time though. :)
[06:52] <KatsumeBlisk> cc11rocks: Both I'm guessing. Use pastebin.com
[06:52] <KatsumeBlisk> cc11rocks: Then link it
[06:53] <cc11rocks> Anyway, every time I boot from hibernate (because grub overrided swap), it checks all my files which only takes about 5 seconds but still annoining...I do have my original 2 GB of swap when I look at the system monitor
[06:53] <sprinklz> almoxarife: is their a libre office channel?
[06:53] <almoxarife> Starminn: please as cake to hear, yet another reason I consider 'chromium' rock solid
[06:53] <cc11rocks> But as you see above, I have no swap partition...How do I fix this?
[06:53] <KatsumeBlisk> cc11rocks: I didn't see that paste since the bot muted you.
[06:53] <KatsumeBlisk> cc11rocks: Use pastebin.
[06:53] <cc11rocks> Fine
[06:54] <almoxarife> sprinklz: ok, so you got a bunch of words you want in little caps while the rest is in something else, yes?
[06:54] <sprinklz> almoxarife: ya
[06:54] <cc11rocks> Couldn't someone set up bad URL's and stuff to link you to other stuff? Seems bit insecure... Setting up pastebin stuff now
[06:54] <sprinklz> almoxarife: and i cant find the half shift key :P
[06:54] <KatsumeBlisk> cc11rocks: You just paste what you tried to paste here and then give me the link...
[06:55] <almoxarife> sprinklz: so highlight the 'small cap' stuff and change to what ever font makes you happy, then revert back to what ever you are considering normal font??
[06:55] <KatsumeBlisk> cc11rocks: It's supposed to be an easy way to share text like what stuff outputs when you run commands.
[06:56] <sprinklz> almoxarife: no it needs to be in "small caps" same font jsut small caps
[06:58] <ZooMonkey> I'm having CUPS problems with a receipt printer / cash drawer in 10.04 LTS. The drawer wont open, but, the driver lets me print. Can anyone help?
[07:03] <sn00p> How do I change my graphics driver in ubuntu 11.10 from vesa to intel? since ubuntu dont have xorg.conf? is it in grub.conf?
[07:05] <ZooMonkey> sn00p: the old intel vid driver used to be i700, i800, etc.. and frankly u might b better off with VESA compared to those! :)
[07:06] <cc11rocks> 31 Lines : http://pastebin.com/9cr41QVu
[07:06] <sn00p> Just please tell me where it is storedo thats all I want to know
[07:06] <cc11rocks> I do have to go to bed soon, so it would be appreciated to get an answer in the next few minutes.  Thank you!
[07:06] <ZooMonkey> sn00p: run a scan on the bus for your chipset
[07:06] <sn00p> I have
[07:06] <sn00p> its intel inegrated graphics
[07:06] <sn00p> 945gme
[07:06] <ZooMonkey> and whats it say nonononon the number OKOK its a 900? you want the i900 driver then.
[07:07] <ZooMonkey> I think.
[07:07] <sn00p> yese I have it installed
[07:07] <sn00p> but X isn't using it because ubuntu doesn't use xorg.conf
[07:07] <ZooMonkey> but it's still using the VESA OK I get it. Oh! Check in /usr/share/xorg/
[07:07] <ZooMonkey> or the such
[07:07] <ZooMonkey> there is config.d s and things in tehre now
[07:07] <esmaeil> hi How I can get output of running comment in the text file?
[07:08] <KatsumeBlisk> cc11rocks: The swap with df -h is normal. I don't have that show up either.
[07:08] <sn00p> ZooMonkey, no xorg in there
[07:08] <cc11rocks> So there is nothing wrong with my system? The file scan thing is normal from a hibernation?
[07:08] <KatsumeBlisk> cc11rocks: I don't use hibernate so I don't know, but sleep can be flaky on some systems, so that may be why. It could be affecting hibernation.
[07:09] <sn00p> ok
[07:09] <sn00p> ZooMonkey,
[07:09] <sn00p> there is
[07:09] <sn00p> i got in there
[07:09] <FloodBot1> sn00p: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:09] <cc11rocks> the sleep function works fine - no problems there
[07:09] <sn00p> ZooMonkey, sn00p@sn00p:/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d$
[07:09] <esmaeil> hi How I can get output of running konsole comment in the text file?
[07:09] <sn00p> is that what you mean?
[07:09] <cc11rocks> So, my question is resolved?
[07:10] <sn00p> ZooMonkey, there is no .conf in ther
[07:10] <ZooMonkey> sn00p: yes but settle down they are upset and may boot you
[07:10] <ZooMonkey> ol
[07:10] <sn00p> ok
[07:10] <ZooMonkey> Yes that's the dir
[07:10] <sn00p> so no xorg.conf in there
[07:10] <sn00p> which file do I edit
[07:10] <cc11rocks> Are the FloodBots humans (mods) or bots? I'm assuming the first one...
[07:10] <KatsumeBlisk> cc11rocks: I believe so. As long as you don't have anything major happen with the hibernation, it looks like it's fine.
[07:10] <KatsumeBlisk> cc11rocks: Both. Their bots with op powers
[07:11] <cc11rocks> Okay thank you. Guess Gnome 3 is just slow.
[07:11] <cc11rocks> Thank you #ubuntu and KatsumeBlisk.
[07:11] <ZooMonkey> sn00p: aw shucks. That's where you woulda gone if you had a Touchscreen. Sorry. :( I remembering the wrong spot.
[07:12] <sn00p> ok
[07:12] <sn00p> Do you know the right spot
[07:12] <dr_willis> you can alwyas make a xorg.conf  but now a days X auto configures for the most part.
[07:13] <sn00p> yea, I did that and X doesn't use it
[07:13] <dr_willis> or its using it.. but ignoreing whatever tweaks you did.
[07:13] <ZooMonkey> if u goto Administration > Additional Drivers , what does it tell u?
[07:13] <kcj> I mounted an ftp location in nautilus and I want to know where it was mounted so I can get to it in the terminal. Any ideas?
[07:14] <dr_willis> look in .gvfs kcj
[07:14] <sn00p> ZooMonkey, empty
[07:14] <ZooMonkey> sn00p: does going to Additional Drivers do anything? Its empty u say?
[07:14] <sn00p> ZooMonkey, yep
[07:15] <kcj> dr_willis, Thanks.
[07:15] <ZooMonkey> sn00p: Im personally curious as I hav boards that still run that use those chips.
[07:15] <ZooMonkey> G. Dang it!
[07:15] <ZooMonkey> ;P
[07:15] <sn00p> well I cant go above 800x600 if I do go 1024x768 and monitor blanks out
[07:15] <sn00p> its on an extended monitor
[07:15] <ZooMonkey> LoL 8D
[07:16] <dr_willis> id be curious if other disrtos, or live cds that are not ubuntu based have the same issue.
[07:16] <ZooMonkey> dr_willis: many times it's worse. For instance I just read of horror stories with Touchscreens and CentOS.
[07:16] <dr_willis> teh built in monitor can do higher then 800x600 ?
[07:17] <sn00p> dr_willis, yes
[07:17] <sn00p> dr_willis its  a netbook
[07:17] <dr_willis> sounds like some odd quirk/bug in the drivers.
[07:18] <dr_willis> My Intel Netbook could definatly do external monitor higher then 800x600 - i used it  on a 1080xwhatever   monitor for some time.
[07:18] <ZooMonkey> sn00p: what Ubuntu r u running? 11.10?
[07:18] <sn00p> yea
[07:18] <sn00p> ZooMonkey, it was running fine when I had 10
[07:18] <sn00p> but I downloaded reinstalled 10.04 again and same thing happened
[07:18] <ZooMonkey> sn00p: I had a sneaking suspicion! Switch down to Linux Mint 10 if you want My opinion.
[07:19] <sn00p> i tried that still same thing
[07:19] <morayi> I am pulling my hair. Have any of u ran ubuntu 11.10 on VMware fusion with 3d acceleration? I want to use unity 3d but I can't
[07:19] <dr_willis> sn00p:  this is a external lcd via vga?
[07:19] <ZooMonkey> sn00p: it just installs MP3 and video and things for you automatically. Its shortcut and works same as ubuntu.
[07:19] <sn00p> dr_willis, yes
[07:20] <ZooMonkey> *sigh* The Drivers are Dying!
[07:20] <sharpK> any way to disable the global menu (top bar) on a second monitor in 11.10?
[07:20] <dr_willis> sharpK:  not on just the 2nd monitor.. but its disableable globally. :)
[07:20]  * ZooMonkey chants "dont let the Drivers Die!" ... D-:<
[07:21] <dr_willis> or on a per app basis.
[07:21] <sharpK> dr_willis, yeah, that's what google said too, but I guess I just didn't want to believe it ;)
[07:21] <sharpK> had to go through all these loops just to get XBMC to proper full screen on a second monitor (TV) in TwinnView
[07:22] <sharpK> now if I use the ubuntu desktop, it will display the global menu on top of the video
[07:22] <sharpK> not a huge deal, but one of those small things that just keeps you that inch away from perfect
[07:22] <dr_willis> wonder if boxxee is out for 11.10 yet.
[07:22] <ZooMonkey> video? Heck that's just the start. :D
[07:23] <ZooMonkey> There's a ton of things that people would love to work.
[07:23] <dr_willis> Polished pangolin  :)  should be the next release... a whole 6 mo of bug smashing and cleaning things up.
[07:24] <sharpK> is boxee better than XBMC, because even after using it for just a day, colour me impressed
[07:24] <dr_willis> boxee has differnt feature set. its xbmc+extras basically.
[07:24] <dr_willis> Plus I have a Boxee boxx :)
[07:24] <sharpK> ZooMonkey, the video wasn't the problem, it was getting (first) the dual monitors (one being a TV) to work with TwinView without crashing every time I logged into unity
[07:24] <sharpK> then getting XBMC to full screen had to google all kinds of batch scripts for wmctrl
[07:24] <sharpK> etc etc
[07:25] <ZooMonkey> good gawd, man!
[07:25] <sharpK> I guess, I just bought into the hype that Ubunutu was going to be as easy if not easier than Mac and Windows.
[07:25] <sharpK> The communities really sold it
[07:25] <ZooMonkey> multimon: still a pain in the *$% !!!!! News at 11... ... ;D
[07:25] <dr_willis> Havent ran boxee/xbmc on linux lately. since i found out on windows boxee/xbmc have a netflix plugin that intergerates with the intefece. :)
[07:25] <sharpK> and it isn't, but that's not necesarily a bad thing... a learning experience of sorts
[07:25] <hoshi411> which version of ubuntu will work best with arm tablet? by version I dont mean de I mean natty or oceiric etc...
[07:26] <sharpK> dr_willis, XBMC with MORE FEATURES? I will have to check that out
[07:26] <dr_willis> Multi Monitor support has been a rough spot for unity since its release.
[07:26] <dr_willis> Its supposed to be getting some attention in the next release.
[07:26] <KatsumeBlisk> hoshi411: There's only one version. Unless you mean with different DEs. I bet the normal version would work best.
[07:26] <hoshi411> im trying to install  ubuntu-netbook onto asus slider and it keeps giving me dependency errors
[07:26] <sharpK> I got it to work, so I can't complain, but it took two days and a whole lot of googlin'
[07:26] <hoshi411> Katsume: im trying oceiric
[07:26] <hoshi411> ubuntu-netbook
[07:27] <KatsumeBlisk> hoshi411: Ubuntu netbook edition doesn't exist anymore.
[07:27] <dr_willis> Hmm.. i dident even think there was a netbook edition any more. :)
[07:27] <hoshi411> but dependency problem wont let me install
[07:27] <dr_willis> hoshi411:  how are you installimng?
[07:27] <KatsumeBlisk> hoshi411: It doesn't exist anymore
[07:27] <hoshi411> Katsu: was it replaced by something?
[07:27] <hoshi411> dr_willis : im using synaptic
[07:27] <dr_willis> desktop and netbook disks are the same.
[07:27] <dr_willis> hoshi411:  a clean install mey save you a lotof effort.
[07:27] <KatsumeBlisk> hoshi411: Merged with desktop. Netbook became Desktop edition basically.
[07:28] <hoshi411> dr_willis can I use synaptic to do a clean install?
[07:28] <hoshi411> Katsume: thanks that helps me a lot
[07:28] <dr_willis> hoshi411:  a clean install.. would be reformating and installing from  the beginning...
[07:28] <hoshi411> just knowing that little bit of info
[07:28] <hoshi411> dr_ thanks for the advice
[07:28] <dr_willis> there is no longer a netbook-edition since like 2 releases back? or 3?
[07:28] <html> hoshi411,   may i ?
[07:28] <hoshi411> the package called ubuntu-desktop will not install either
[07:29] <hoshi411> due to dependency problems
[07:29] <KatsumeBlisk> hoshi411: What's your desktop look like?
[07:29] <dr_willis> hoshi411:  how are you trying to upgrade to the next release anyway? what command exactly?
[07:29] <html> tell us whats stopping you?
[07:29] <hoshi411> from scratch is not an option due to the method of getting ubuntu on this tablet in the first place ... the only thing would be to use apt to strip down everything to the bare minimum and then install from there
[07:30] <ZooMonkey> no man netbook edition got forked I think
[07:30] <hoshi411> html: synaptic is telling me that ubuntu-desktop depends on a whole bunch of stuff that is not going to be installed
[07:30] <html> hoshi411,  its call linux on a flash drive , not other os does this by defult
[07:31] <dr_willis> a clean install may be the easist way to get to a sane os. :)
[07:31] <KatsumeBlisk> ZooMonkey: It doesn't exist anymore.
[07:31] <ZooMonkey> its somethin that looks like Mac on its homepage now
[07:31] <ZooMonkey> now?
[07:31] <ZooMonkey> *no?
[07:31] <hoshi411> ZooMonkey: noway forked???
[07:31] <dr_willis> hoshi411:  you are using synaptic to upgrade to a new release? what version are you on now?
[07:31] <html> dr_willis,  hoshi411 , agreed,
[07:31] <ZooMonkey> lemme chek me twitter links *runs FIND on 700 .desktop links*
[07:32] <hoshi411> dr_willis KatsumeBlist html : im runing the asus sl101 slider tablet tegra2 armel tablet
[07:32] <hoshi411> to get ubuntu on here int he first place I had to root the tablet and then use an android app called linux installer
[07:32] <html> hoshi411,  what is your specs? model  and os trying to install?
[07:32] <hoshi411> i installed a somewhat working very buggy ubuntu natty
[07:33] <hoshi411> after that I was like @#$%#$ this and installed lxde through debian
[07:33] <ruslan_osmanov> hi. When I try to check the snippets gedit plugin, it fails with message: http://susepaste.org/8025417
[07:33] <hoshi411> just by altering my sources.list
[07:33] <hoshi411> so now I am running lxde on debian
[07:33] <dr_willis> hoshi411:  sounds like you got a frankenstein of a system you are trying to upgrade back to ubuntu.. im suprised it works at all.
[07:33] <ZooMonkey> hoshi411: KatsumeBlisk: Oh it's for eee PCs sorry--- http://auroraos.org
[07:34] <hoshi411> so I am attempting to comment out all the debian repos and uncomment back the ubuntu ones
[07:34] <hoshi411> dr_willis: im doing this just for testing purpose. I by no means depend on this machine for anything. I want to test out the tablet features of ubuntu on this machine ... only ... natty was really bugyy so IM trying to go with oceiric
[07:35] <hoshi411> if oceiric ubuntu desktop doesnt work good after that I plan to try kubuntu
[07:35] <hoshi411> just trying to find the most stable nice looking platform
[07:35] <KatsumeBlisk> hoshi411: We're just not understanding what you're trying to do. There's no netbook edition...
[07:35] <dr_willis> id be suprised if you find any linux desktop that works well on tablets at this time..
[07:35] <hoshi411> KatsumeBlisk: thanks ... : )
[07:35] <ZooMonkey> they should make a Nubuntu Netbook remix!!!! BOOOOOOOOMB
[07:35] <KatsumeBlisk> KatsumeBlisk: The main release of Ubuntu is best for tablets imo because Unity is sort of like that. You may like GNOME Shell better than Unity though.
[07:36] <ZooMonkey> i'd buy a netbook JUST to audit with it.
[07:36] <hoshi411> dr_willis: well lxde debian is working good except there is no multitouch
[07:36] <hoshi411> I really want multitouch support
[07:36] <hoshi411> I read that ubuntu supports it out of the box
[07:36] <KatsumeBlisk> ZooMonkey: Can't get the screenshots to open. XD What DE is this eeePC OS running?
[07:36] <sexy> ?
[07:36] <hoshi411> and I saw some youtube videos that turned me on
[07:36] <ZooMonkey> KatsumeBlisk: Im not sure I found it on Twitter a while back
[07:36] <dr_willis> im sure the acutal apps would have to support it as well.. but im not sure what apps would..
[07:36] <html> dr_willis,  frankinsten  lol i have done what hoshi411  is doing,, and i can help him alot here, if hes willing
[07:37] <KatsumeBlisk> hoshi411: It does. It's got the best UI for touch screens atm too. Not the greatest in terms of usability because it's still new, but works the best probably.
[07:37] <ruslan_osmanov> should I install something except python-gobject package?
[07:37] <KatsumeBlisk> ZooMonkey: I've never heard of it until now.
[07:37] <dr_willis> html:  :) i just got my Kindle fire last month.. not tried to ubuntuize it...
[07:37] <html> hoshi411, http://tinyurl.com/c5d26dt is this it?
[07:37] <ZooMonkey> KasumeBlisk: it looks like vanilla GNOME from the app bars on the screenshots on the bottom of the homepage.
[07:37] <KatsumeBlisk> ZooMonkey: GNOME 2 or 3?
[07:38] <hoshi411> html: yes ^_^
[07:38] <KatsumeBlisk> hoshi411: That's a Transformer isn't it?
[07:38] <ruslan_osmanov> thank you folks for your great attention
[07:38] <hoshi411> Katsume: it is the same as the transformer on the inside
[07:38] <hoshi411> but on the outside it is a little different
[07:38] <KatsumeBlisk> hoshi411: What's wrong with Honeycomb (and ICS later)?
[07:38] <KatsumeBlisk> Just curious
[07:38] <hoshi411> KatsumeBlisk: the problem with Honeycomb is NO GIMP
[07:38] <hoshi411> and no work
[07:38] <hoshi411> and no office
[07:38] <Guest38541> hmmmm
[07:39] <KatsumeBlisk> That makes sense. You've got Quickoffice and stuff though for Office.
[07:39] <hoshi411> and no inkscape
[07:39] <KatsumeBlisk> GIMP, etc. makes sense though.
[07:39] <dr_willis> gimp on a tablet.. would seem.. awkward.. :)
[07:39] <hoshi411> nope ...there is no android office suit right now tha comes close to even abiword
[07:39] <KatsumeBlisk> That's what I'm thinking. I like my desktop for that.
[07:39] <dr_willis> but i guess it depends on what you are gimping.
[07:39] <html> hoshi411, kubuntu ???? u crazzy?? thats for highend pcs
[07:39] <hoshi411> even abiword trumps all android office stuff
[07:39] <hoshi411> html: kubuntu-mobile
[07:40] <ZooMonkey> abiword sux
[07:40] <ZooMonkey> lol
[07:40] <html> hoshi411, http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch.asp?px=FO&scriteria=BE02181 is this it?
[07:40] <ZooMonkey> I dont even like this switch from OpenOffice
[07:40] <dr_willis> I use abiword all the time as my main word processor.. I dont need the features of the XXXoffice
[07:40] <hoshi411> ZooMonkey: I don't disagree but my point is that it is way beter than all android office suits
[07:40] <ZooMonkey> We should be poking Oracle DAILY like "let us help u"
[07:40] <KatsumeBlisk> ZooMonkey: Psh. Use LibreOffice. Oracle sucks
[07:40] <html>  bot ! kubuntu_moble
[07:40] <ZooMonkey> :)
[07:40] <ZooMonkey> no way dood. JAVA <3.
[07:41] <hoshi411> html: yes that is my machine
[07:41] <KatsumeBlisk> html: You spelled mobile wrong. XD
[07:41] <shin0bi-911> he hahhahahaha
[07:41] <dr_willis> vi + troff  :)
[07:41] <html> rrr  i want the bot to help me with  kubuntu-moble
[07:41] <KatsumeBlisk> ZooMonkey: I like Java, but I hate Oracle. They take companies and try to control their projects. When people spin it off because of how they act (see LibreOffice), they wonder why.
[07:41] <dr_willis> never even hears of a kubuntu-mobile
[07:42] <ZooMonkey> altho I do like icedtea , but, it doesnt work with a lot of things I've used in JAVA lately. Like for instance Arduino. Any of you use Arduinos?
[07:42] <KatsumeBlisk> dr_willis: I have. It's pretty cool looking. Don't know how developed it is though.
[07:42] <html> same hear,, and ive tryed 37 os and there upgrades
[07:42] <shin0bi-911>  but i still use open office
[07:42] <dr_willis> I know that KDE had a desktop and netbook mode. but never messed with it much.
[07:42] <ZooMonkey> Katsume OK point taken
[07:42] <shin0bi-911> Gnome best
[07:43] <html> katselphrime,  :( laughting at me and seplling :P
[07:43] <shin0bi-911> So guy's interested in gnome
[07:43] <KatsumeBlisk> ZooMonkey: I love Java, trust me. It's just how Oracle is run, especially concerning FOSS.
[07:43] <guest_> speaking of arduino , zigbee ,..etc have any of you done AVR programming
[07:44] <ZooMonkey> gconf-editor is the win!
[07:44] <html> host,  is this it,,, http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch.asp?px=FO&scriteria=BE02181
[07:44] <ZooMonkey> gnome is awesome.
[07:44] <shin0bi-911> hmmm
[07:44] <guest_> It's kind of fun
[07:44] <html> hoshi411,  http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch.asp?px=FO&scriteria=BE02181
[07:44] <shin0bi-911> gnome rulezzzzzzzz
[07:44] <dr_willis> gnome is annoying in many ways. :) but its what people are used to these days.
[07:44] <ZooMonkey> We need the choice to pick it, or, the new Ubuntu menu !!!!!! At install.
[07:44] <shin0bi-911> yep
[07:44] <html> shin0bi-911,  gnome rules!
[07:44] <ZooMonkey> gnome has a lot made for it now!
[07:45] <dr_willis> I saw a Multi-buntu installer iso the other day.
[07:45] <shin0bi-911> yes
[07:45] <ZooMonkey> like Kiosk tools that don't need K++
[07:45] <ZooMonkey> :P
[07:45] <shin0bi-911> and in the upcoming 12.04 LTS
[07:45] <shin0bi-911> it awesome
[07:45] <shin0bi-911> its*
[07:46] <guest_> Why do you need the choice at install of a desktop manager hell you can apt-get or yum x11 desktop manger you want
[07:46] <KatsumeBlisk> guest_: That's what the different derivatives/spins are for.
[07:46] <dr_willis> guest_:  for 'idiot-user-friendlyness' :)
[07:46] <shin0bi-911> choice makes the diffrence
[07:46] <hoshi411> html: why do you keep showing me pics of my tablet
[07:46] <hoshi411> ?
[07:46] <dr_willis> i saw some dvd/iso that did a netbook and let you select what variant you wanted basically.
[07:46] <shin0bi-911> Difference*
[07:46] <ZooMonkey> exactly! It's about "just make a box in the installer menu that is Already Existing"
[07:46] <dr_willis> a netboot.. :)
[07:47] <ZooMonkey> Im sure it would take 5sec to add the box once the Meat is actually made?
[07:47] <ZooMonkey> That part cant b easy.
[07:48] <shin0bi-911> anybody here is familiar with Flux box
[07:48] <overdub> first thing I did after installing ubuntu was: apt-get install kde-full
[07:48] <shin0bi-911> * Flux Box *
[07:48] <guest_> ya , I used fluxbox a few times
[07:48] <shin0bi-911> hmmm
[07:48] <KatsumeBlisk> overdub: Why didn't you just install Kubuntu?
[07:48] <ZooMonkey> Katsume I was wondering same question LOL
[07:49] <KatsumeBlisk> Also, why is all this conversation in #ubuntu instead of #ubuntu-offtopic? Lol
[07:49] <overdub> Kateon: still end up with a fully functional KDE up and running
[07:49] <shin0bi-911> no i rather test everything on gnome
[07:49] <guest_> Kubuntu is bloaty but looks good
[07:49] <shin0bi-911> becoz i don't like switching from gnome to anything else
[07:49] <esmaeil> hi How I can get output of running konsole comment in the text file?
[07:49] <ZooMonkey> I still dont have an answer for my CUPS question!!! Anybody familiar with CUPS on a Point of Sale system?????
[07:49] <overdub> this laptop has the horse power to push KDE
[07:49] <shin0bi-911> it is so comfortable.... :)
[07:50] <html> hoshi411,  well i need to know what your working witn hardware wise  so i can help you better,,  for i too have a nettop ,, and i got 32 things open now,  but it was a bit of fine tuneing to get  it that was
[07:50] <overdub> rather have a full traditional desktop than the annoying eye candy unity
[07:50] <guest_> Should work simlar to any other version on POS/
[07:51] <shin0bi-911> any body here familiar with wine....
[07:51] <shin0bi-911> *wine*
[07:51] <dr_willis> !anyone
[07:52] <guest_> yes , but I prefer using the windows when running windows apps
[07:52] <ZooMonkey> guest_: yes, well in the driver dialog, I have set to "Open Cash Drawer", but it does not. And It will not open on raw commands to "lp -oraw" either. Do you know what could be the issue?
[07:52] <shin0bi-911> no windows not my kinda OS
[07:52] <overdub> guest_: can't do without my shell
[07:52] <ZooMonkey> guest_: this is in 10.04 LTS
[07:53] <html> overdub,  agreed
[07:53] <guest_> you mean explorer.exe in wine thats your problem?
[07:53] <shin0bi-911> windows cant beat ubuntu
[07:53] <shin0bi-911> can't*
[07:53] <guest_> agreed
[07:53] <shin0bi-911> nop...
[07:54] <shin0bi-911> POL
[07:54] <shin0bi-911> *Play On Linux*
[07:54] <ZooMonkey> if ur running explorer.exe through WINE, you definitely got some problems.
[07:54] <EvilResistance> !offtopic
[07:54] <overdub> ubuntu 11.10 is running very sweetly on this thinkpad X220 tablet
[07:54] <EvilResistance> !offtopic | shin0bi-911
[07:55] <shin0bi-911> thanks a lot
[07:55] <guest_> EvilResistance > /dev/null :)
[07:55] <shin0bi-911> :)
[07:56] <shin0bi-911> i'll find some other channel
[07:56] <shin0bi-911> :)
[07:56] <ZooMonkey> "finding a channel"
[07:57] <shin0bi-911> yep "finding a channel"
[07:57] <shin0bi-911> :)
[07:57] <ZooMonkey> who uses a mac and is also in #ubuntu ? Honestly?
[07:57] <ZooMonkey> Er, which came first? Plz tell us it was the Mac?
[07:57] <ZooMonkey> :D
[07:57] <shin0bi-911> i used mac splash screen on my ubuntu
[07:57] <guest_> should be in BSD if you are a mac
[07:57] <shin0bi-911> :)
[07:58] <shin0bi-911> and GTK themes also
[07:58] <shin0bi-911> ;)
[07:58] <guest_> I prefer QT :)
[07:58] <shin0bi-911> yes it was the mac:)
[07:58] <ZooMonkey> for me the mac came so first it used 5+1/4" floppies ... :P
[07:59] <shin0bi-911> but still both of theme rules
[07:59] <shin0bi-911> *mac**ubuntu*
[07:59] <ZooMonkey> I used Ubuntu b4 mac robbed BSD and hoed out ;p
[07:59] <ZooMonkey> Gentoo before then!
[07:59] <shin0bi-911> lol
[08:00] <guest_> arch linux is cool but gentoo is probably the hardest to setup
[08:00] <guest_> Other then doing your own LFS
[08:00] <ZooMonkey> no lie there! I still havent gotten a system to compile from nothing. From a floppy.
[08:01] <ZooMonkey> a gentoo sys.
[08:01] <guest_> and you have to start out with the links browser :)
[08:02] <ZooMonkey> And its big respect to Ubuntu for having the touchscreen working as EZ schmeezy as it does! ONE FILE! make it, forget it. :)
[08:02] <ZooMonkey> ... but it's mission critical for a business to open their cash drawer also. :/
[08:02] <lsrline> I'm mount my Drobo with NFS and I've come accross two ways of doing auto mounting it in fstab... one is drobo-fs:/mnt/DroboFS/Shares  /mnt/drobo  nfs   soft,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 and the other one is drobo-fs:/mnt/DroboFS/Shares    /mnt/drobo     nfs     rw,soft,proto=tcp     0     0 ... what's the difference (the both work)?
[08:02] <guest_> curious does anybody know of a harder distro to setup other then gentoo?
[08:03] <ZooMonkey> *crickets* || club / mace
[08:03] <ZooMonkey> ;)
[08:04] <guest_> for the mac people rm -r / :)
[08:05] <CaptAnon> How much slower is running ubuntu from a flash drive?
[08:06] <aanti> hi there, where is the config file for grub2 ? the list of OS and the default one ?
[08:06] <guest_> grub.cfg
[08:06] <aanti> i asked _where_
[08:07] <guest_> you should have grub.cfg under your /boot/grub directory for grub2
[08:07] <aanti> last time its was /etc/grub/menu.lst or something
[08:07] <guest_> for grub it is menu.lst be default
[08:07] <ZooMonkey> CaptAnon: not muc worst altho I'd suggest that one with the clover logo! That runs good on JumpDrive !!!
[08:08] <aanti> aww okay: first line DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
[08:08] <ZooMonkey> CaptAnon: it also sets up a storage space for you easy so saving files isn't a big hairy deal.
[08:08] <aanti> i want another OS to be started by default..
[08:09] <auronandace> aanti: then edit /etc/default/grub
[08:09] <ZooMonkey> aanti: I hate the new GRUB2. Don't you as well?
[08:09] <aanti> editing default configs ?
[08:09] <guest_> running on a flash drive isn't much slower the only differents it is using a compressed filesystem that loads into ram , called squash.fs ...usually newer hardware won't beable to notice it
[08:09] <aanti> yes i do, i dont see its advantage over normal grub
[08:09] <ZooMonkey> I just wish it would work. it doesnt do what it should
[08:10] <ZooMonkey> Exactly
[08:10] <ZooMonkey> its a Piece of &$*%
[08:10] <ZooMonkey> lol.
[08:11] <guest_> Well , grub2 is what I was kind of stuck on be cause apparently it can have many different cfg files on many different paritions
[08:11] <aanti> 'startupmanager' does not work
[08:11] <aanti> kubuntu had  a nice tool gor grub wditing
[08:11] <aanti> *for
[08:11] <html> ZooMonkey,  what s wrong?
[08:11] <ZooMonkey> aanti: Hey if you DO figure out grub2 for the love of Pete post us a blog about the steps!!! :D LOL
[08:12] <auronandace> !grub2 Z ZooMonkey
[08:12] <auronandace> !grub2 | ZooMonkey
[08:12] <ZooMonkey> aanti: I got duplicate entries, I got entires I'd love to re-arrange etc. For sure.
[08:12] <ZooMonkey> Yes TY bots I *will* check those links but I have likely been to them. 2009?
[08:12] <html> !kubuntu-moble
[08:13] <html> !kubuntu-moble|html
[08:13] <html> !kubuntu-moble | html
[08:14] <auronandace> !factoid | html
[08:14] <html> how do i get what im looking for?
[08:14] <shin0bi-911> yo guy's what's up
[08:14] <shin0bi-911> :)
[08:14] <html> me?
[08:14] <auronandace> html: what are you looking for?
[08:14] <ZooMonkey> Seriously tho GRUB version 1 worked SO simple and Easy. I dont see any reason why they complicated it.
[08:14] <shin0bi-911> ?
[08:15] <html> kubuntu-moible
[08:15] <shin0bi-911> okay
[08:15] <aanti> GRUB_DEFAULT=12
[08:15] <auronandace> html: i don't know anything about kubuntu-mobile
[08:15] <html> !kubuntu-moible | html
[08:15] <aanti> okay
[08:15] <html> get the bot to tell me auronandace
[08:15] <aanti> so whats the # for the other things?
[08:15] <auronandace> html: there is no factoid like that, stop trying that please
[08:16] <html> ok thanks!
[08:16] <auronandace> aanti: when a line starts with # it is a comment
[08:16] <pangolin> html: first you need to spell thing properly and second http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-mobile/releases/11.04/release/
[08:16] <aanti> seriously, *uck that s*it
[08:17] <html> i feel like an ass
[08:17] <html> thanks
[08:17]  * ZooMonkey says "smoke this and call me in the morning"
[08:18] <pangolin> !ot > ZooMonkey
[08:18] <ZooMonkey> a guideline!
[08:18] <guest_> ZooMonkey can u plz type in nc  -l 10001 and enable port forwarding in your router to that port :;)
[08:19] <ZooMonkey> uuuuuuuuuh, no.
[08:19] <ZooMonkey> lol.
[08:20] <ZooMonkey> ooooOOOO Yeah! OK so does anybody know advanced things about CUPS drivers?
[08:20] <ZooMonkey> if no I can like, leave u alone or something.
[08:22] <ZooMonkey> #cups doesnt respond to anything about CUPS drivers either. It's like a game. :D ... if some1 asks about printers, play dead. heh.
[08:22] <html> lol
[08:22] <gurifisu> why isn't there texStudio in the repos?
[08:22] <auronandace> ZooMonkey: you haven't really stated your problem with cups yet
[08:23] <abhijain> hello
[08:23] <guest_> well I wouldn't say their is to much advanced about cups
[08:23] <guest_> That is if the print drivers are working properly
[08:23] <abhijain> Ubuntu live cd 11.10 user name and password details can any one help me I am trying using live cd
[08:24] <auronandace> abhijain: you don't need to login with a livecd
[08:24] <ZooMonkey> I have a Star TSP100 with a PSD from Star's website (receipt printer), and, it prints (sorta), but it will not open the connected cash drawer that the Drop Down box in the Setup says it is set to do! It has options. I could be set to "do not open" but I set itto open and it does not open obviously lol.
[08:24] <abhijain> auronandace:  but its aksing me
[08:25] <guest_> but if you want the illusion of a user issue adduser auronandace
[08:25] <auronandace> abhijain: what did you select when you booted the livecd?
[08:28] <ZooMonkey> It's really a stab in the dark some1 would know the answer, but it was worth a shot!!!! I'm at a loss of what to try.
[08:29] <guest_> How new is Star TSP100 i.e when did it come out
[08:30] <ZooMonkey> I bet Star TSP is like 10 yrs old!!! I used it before at retail jobs I used to work at.
[08:31] <auronandace> !rootirc | oliverzp
[08:31] <ZooMonkey> guest_ : not to mention Star *made* the POS standard for recript printer BS I hear?
[08:32] <ZooMonkey> it rly is its own class of garbage. I need some POS Linux gurus to chat with I think?!!!!
[08:33] <ZooMonkey> wouldnt know where they hang out tho?
[08:33] <ZooMonkey> maybe I can try /join #pos ? lol
[08:34] <ZooMonkey> nope. nobody in there.
[08:34] <computer> Never mind
[08:34] <computer> Sorted it
[08:35] <computer> Was something to do with the browser display
[08:35] <guest_> Ya, your probably right though it sounds like a driver issue if it is partially printing correctly. Have you tried restarting the cups service then reprinting?
[08:36] <ZooMonkey> guest_: yeah I've even shutdown and booted. etc. rebooted. When I send from "lp -oraw" from terminal, it ques in GNOME printer Que as Completed! But no response from printer or drawer.
[08:38] <ZooMonkey> guest_: thats when sending binary Control Characters to the printer itself (trying to get it to pop the drawer!) .. ... .. you wouldnt think it would aquire a DOC TYPE but it does and it is standard receipt size according to log. LOL?
[08:38] <guest_> do an lsmod and see if you can track down if their is any printers modules/driver programs loaded as LKM
[08:39] <ZooMonkey> guest_: the kicker is I have it set to A4 and the ppd is set to A4 (correct)!!!!! But it prints to standard size.
[08:40] <ZooMonkey> guest_: when I lsmod I get i915 (INTEL) ... ... :))) ... ... and no mention of an LKM. That I see?
[08:41] <ZooMonkey> no not even scrolling up
[08:41] <guest_> how about for your ps -A is their any unusual thing running that could screw up the cups service ...
[08:42] <ZooMonkey> guest_: it's OOB 10.04 LTS !!!!!! If there is something it was nothing I added. :/
[08:43] <guest_> ok , how do you have your computer hooked up to the printer thru usb , parrell , wireless , bluetooth ... what?
[08:44] <ZooMonkey> when I ps - A , cupsd has its own number. so I'd assume thats what you mean by conflicting?
[08:44] <ZooMonkey> USB
[08:44] <ZooMonkey> when I tell "lp" to list it only gives me one line instead of two
[08:44] <ZooMonkey> I figured thats kus I had to "ghetto add" the ppd in
[08:45] <ZooMonkey> I went to localhost:633 or whatever to CUPS and added printer in there.
[08:47] <guest_> wait would is your main objective is it to have people beable to print from outside your network to inside?
[08:47] <guest_> would -->what
[08:47] <ZooMonkey> no man, lol, this is a Point of Sale system. I just need to run a receipt printer that is, in turn, also hooked to a Cash Drawer.
[08:48] <ZooMonkey> a market computer? A store's computer?
[08:50] <guest_> have you tried sudo apt-get printconf
[08:51] <ZooMonkey> guest_: No I sure had not! Its running. :)
[08:51] <guest_> that worked
[08:52] <ZooMonkey> well I dunno yet! have not tried to print yet. I may have to re-add printer also?
[08:52] <ZooMonkey> to set a new PPD or such? yes?
[08:52] <ZooMonkey> hey it found it
[08:52] <ZooMonkey> the last screen shows my printer name
[08:52] <ZooMonkey> good sign
[08:53] <guest_> let me know if printconf works for you
[08:54] <ZooMonkey> nah same thing man :( at least from terminal
[08:54] <guest_> how about thru gui?
[08:54] <ZooMonkey> Let me try thru the software.
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Or try http://localhost:631
[08:56] <ZooMonkey> heh, Ut Oh lol. Now it wont print the Print Dialog way either!!!!! :P
[08:56] <guest_> also you may need these packages foo2zjs or pnm2ppa for printconf to work with an old or proprietary
[08:56] <ZooMonkey> man o live, this one has a long ways to go! I've been trying the "free" version of Openbravo you guys
[08:57] <ZooMonkey> and Openbravo really does have a leg up on the competition. Surely.
[08:57] <ZooMonkey> for one it prints out of box.
[08:57] <ZooMonkey> with the CUPS driver. It also costs five grand tho.
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> ZooMonkey: so do most HPs :-)
[08:57] <ZooMonkey> which is a HUGE chunk. too much really
[08:58] <ZooMonkey> I know if it was only an HP right? :P
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> Bingo
[08:58] <ZooMonkey> but comon its a HUGE market chunk!
[08:58] <ZooMonkey> many many many places uses this printer
[08:59] <ZooMonkey> ud think we could get it workin? it only needs a nudge! And it would be usable!
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> ZooMonkey: blame the manufacturer for not making a driver
[09:00] <ZooMonkey> I do but I also blame CUPS and also Ubuntu for killing the oldschool /dev/lp link, and leaving no serial patch or anything. :(
[09:00] <guest_> well you can always create /dev/lp  mknod ;)
[09:01] <ZooMonkey> I think its there. :/
[09:01] <ZooMonkey> it just does nothing. it blinks at me when i send it bits. lol.
[09:01] <ZooMonkey> and /dev/usblp0 and /dev/usb/lp0 and etc etc
[09:02] <guest_> But it is mostly the problem with the drive like a originally thought it would be not so much cups service but the drive that the printer uses
[09:02] <bekks> Which drive?
[09:02] <guest_> driver
[09:02] <ZooMonkey> guest_: it could very well be the driver, yes! It has a box for drawer to open! I have it on Open! It does NOT open! :/ :/ XD
[09:03] <bekks> ZooMonkey: Please dont use ! that often - it makes things hard to read.
[09:03] <jigspan> i have shut down problem with ubuntu 11.10 what can be problem?
[09:03] <bekks> !details | jigspan
[09:04] <guest_> well , if it comes out to be the driver then you either need to find a working driver for that printer that you can download and load or your pretty much screwed :|
[09:04] <pnorman> I have some files to rename. I have a python script that writes a shell script with a bunch of "mv 11/123/456.png 11/123/789.png.tmp" commands and then I run the shell script. Can anyone think of a better way to bulk-rename files? I have about 2.2 million files to rename.
[09:05] <Lasers_> pnorman: rename-utils, pyrenamer?
[09:05] <guest_> 2.2 million I pity that inode lol
[09:05] <bekks> pnorman: for i in *.png; do mv ... ... ...; done
[09:05] <ZooMonkey> guest_: OK well there are three other options total, I suppose I should pursue those.
[09:06] <jigspan> when shut down after blank screen appear and cpu processing continue and can not power off complete
[09:06] <bekks> guest_: 2 million files arent much.
[09:06] <Lasers_> It's only 2,000,000 files. :)
[09:06] <bekks> Lasers_: :P
[09:06] <ZooMonkey> is that whats happening? That happens on 10.04 with me on this box Im working on!
[09:06] <bekks> ZooMonkey: Please omit the ! - thank you.
[09:07] <pnorman> It's 2k files per directory and 800 directories in 20/, 1k per and 400 in 19/, (etc)
[09:07] <ZooMonkey> jigspan: it's the ASPCI **something settings. Get to screensaver settings, goto "advanced" or "other" and in there set to "always on" for all devices
[09:08] <edy> gparted give me pain in my head
[09:08] <pnorman> My concern here is actually the *speed* of renaming. I don't want it to take hours, and I was getting errors when running my current scripts
[09:08] <guest_> edy why it's gui based?
[09:09] <pnorman> I'm not sure if the errors are the scripts or the step that preceeded them - and I can't effectively rerun the last step, because it took two weeks to run.
[09:09] <edy> yes
[09:09] <bekks> pnorman: It will take hours, no matter what you will do.
[09:09] <pnorman> bekks: Okay. Just a file system limitation?
[09:09] <bekks> pnorman: Create a bacckup if you are unsure.
[09:10] <bekks> pnorman: It is an I/O problem with "normal" hardware.
[09:10] <opti> i'm running ubuntu 11.10 on an i7-930 and 'turbo' mode doesnt work, any suggestions?
[09:10] <edy> I have deleted a partion with a recovery kernel  and  I have dual boot XP-Ubuntu lucid, now xp won't start
[09:11] <bekks> opti: AFAIK that turbo mode requires a windows driver.
[09:11] <DeltaEpsilon> hi
[09:11] <DeltaEpsilon> is there a mysql client similar to Navicat for Ubuntu?
[09:11] <guest_> edy just create a boot usb or floppy and chain load your os
[09:12] <bekks> DeltaEpsilon: Dont expect anyone knowing about a non-Ubuntu client for mysql in here ;)
[09:12] <ZooMonkey> edy: you need that partition back. Any hope? Did you mirror it?
[09:12] <opti> yeah, seems wierd. windows obviously works, but afaik its just acpi and bumping the multiplier up from 22 to 23
[09:12] <edy> something wrong in partition table, is showing wrong sizes
[09:12] <guest_> when you install mysql the gui that comes with it and the query browser should be all that you need
[09:12] <edy> I haven't deleted the XP partiton
[09:13] <ZooMonkey> guest_: he prob has an HP or COMPAQ install or DELL where there is a backup partition. It's chekt by XP when it starts. Thus XP isnt starting?
[09:13] <guest_> edy the last 4 bytes are in little endian and contains the partitions size
[09:13] <opti> the syslog shows it loading all the right acpi drivers etc, but the cpu info in /sys shows the max clock as 2800 (2933 is the turbo clock)
[09:13] <bekks> guest_: Last 4 bytes of what?
[09:14] <DeltaEpsilon> what is the shortcut key to resize a window to fit 50% of my screen vertically?
[09:14] <edy> XP partion is there, xp start logo appears. trying to start
[09:14] <guest_> that is in the 16 byte paritition entry in the partition table
[09:14] <ZooMonkey> lol
[09:14] <DeltaEpsilon> seems Ubuntu is a bit laggy some times on my machine :-(
[09:14] <DeltaEpsilon> especially the animations and effects
[09:15] <bekks> DeltaEpsilon: Which graphics hardware and which driver?
[09:15] <guest_> ZooMonkey in that case making the partition hidden might work
[09:15] <ZooMonkey> edy: if your partition was named "BACKUP" or similar than do you have a DELL, HP, or COMPAQ or some major brand? A program on XP may be looking for the data.
[09:16] <DeltaEpsilon> bekks, i5-2300 + 16GB RAM + Intel HD3000 graphics + SSD
[09:16] <jigspan> i think that is not problem i might be conflict with kernel
[09:16] <bekks> opti: As I already said, AFAIK you need a windows driver (running on a windows OS) to use that turbo mode.
[09:16] <ZooMonkey> edy: you rly should not have deleted that partition. At all. Why did you do that?
[09:17] <bekks> DeltaEpsilon: Never used intel graphics hardware, sorry.
[09:17] <edy> that shouldn't contain anythiung related to XP instalation
[09:17] <ZooMonkey> edy: yes it totally does. Sry man. :/
[09:17] <opti> well that sucks.
[09:18] <ZooMonkey> edy: you can still recover the data tho! Mount that thing and copy it to a USB or somewhere
[09:18] <bekks> opti: Blame it on the CPU manufacturer.
[09:18] <ZooMonkey> edy: and then wipe the drive and use the recovery disks
[09:18] <bekks> ZooMonkey: How can you recover a deleted partition?
[09:18] <ZooMonkey> nonononon not the deleted one his data off his main Win partition
[09:19] <bekks> ZooMonkey: He cant boot his windows to backup that data...
[09:19] <edy> ZooMonkey: you mean XP partition or deleted one?
[09:19] <guest_> or better yet take a usb harddrive and copy the partition using dd if=/dev/xxx of=/yourusb/filename conv=notrunc,noerror | gzip
[09:20] <bekks> that dd command is entirely slow.
[09:20] <ZooMonkey> nah edy deleted his "BACKUP" partition which is created OEM. and so the Windows has a hook. And the hook may look to see if that partition is there? Just a guess? An educated one.
[09:20] <bekks> use bs=16M to speed it up.
[09:20] <DeltaEpsilon> what is the shortcut key to resize a window to fit 50% of my screen vertically?
[09:21] <ZooMonkey> dd pwns u
[09:21] <ZooMonkey> just FYI ... :D
[09:24] <DeltaEpsilon> what is the shortcut key to resize a window to fit 50% of my screen vertically?
[09:24] <edy> Explaining I did install unbuntu 11.10, but I heaven't happy with that and install ubuntu 11.04 wich save 11.10 installation on a 16 Gb partition which I deleted with Gparted
[09:24] <guest_> ZooMonkey try ebox-printers package
[09:24] <DeltaEpsilon> can some one recommend me a good well supported fanless gfx card for Ubuntu?
[09:25] <edy> I didn't touch C: partition
[09:26] <edy> is not OEM backup partition
[09:26] <ZooMonkey> guest_: eh? Whats that do? I'm on Ubuntu 10.04. Is that a standard program?
[09:26] <pnorman> Any ways to speed up mv? If not, I'll just let this run overnight
[09:27] <Lasers_> DeltaEpsilon: With compiz (and compiz plugins), you can do this easily with grid plugin.
[09:27] <guest_> Zentyal is a Linux small business server that can act as
[09:27] <guest_> a Gateway, Unified Threat Manager, Office Server, Infrastructure
[09:27] <guest_> Manager, Unified Communications Server or a combination of them. One
[09:27] <guest_> single, easy-to-use platform to manage all your network services.
[09:27] <guest_> This module adds a printer sharing capabilities using CUPS and Samba.
[09:27] <FloodBot1> guest_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:27] <ZooMonkey> guest_: I have a JAVA driver that may work! I just have to figure out how to install it. It's for JavaPOS. But that's not the POS I'm using.
[09:28] <DeltaEpsilon> Lasers, can I use compiz plugin in gnome 3?
[09:28] <ZooMonkey> guest_: but its based off of that a bit I think? And it can select JavaPOS drivers! It claims. So its worth a shot.
[09:29] <guest_> is your printer a laser or inkjet
[09:29] <Lasers_> DeltaEpsilon: Err. I haven't touched Gnome3. Can't you drag the window to top-left to toggle left-side 50%?
[09:29] <DeltaEpsilon> Lasers, I can drag but I want to use the keyboard because I have dual screens
[09:30] <Lasers_> DeltaEpsilon: Gotcha. You'd have to ask somebody else (or gnome channel, even!) I'm still using Gnome2.30 until Gnome3 are very stable. :)
[09:30] <DeltaEpsilon> Lasers, gnome 3is very stable here
[09:30] <DeltaEpsilon> I have been working with it for about a week now. extremely stable
[09:31] <Lasers_> DeltaEpsilon: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/gnome-declares-war-on-small-bugs-with-every-detail-matters/
[09:31] <Lasers_> DeltaEpsilon: That was published 3 days ago. :)
[09:31] <excelsio1> I really like lubuntu, but I haven't seen all of edubuntu installing on it.
[09:32] <excelsio1> I know Ubuntu has been losing market share, but to who? Mint?
[09:32] <Lasers_> DeltaEpsilon: I really enjoy Gnome3. I do. I have Gnome3 running on Arch. I still experience issues. Just saying. :)
[09:32] <DeltaEpsilon> Lasers, 35 bugs is not much for such a big project
[09:32] <DeltaEpsilon> look at KDE ;-)
[09:33] <DeltaEpsilon> excelsio1, Mint is nowhere as good as ubuntu
[09:33] <Lasers_> DeltaEpsilon: 35 known/confirmed bugs. It does not mean they found all yet. ;)
[09:33] <DeltaEpsilon> "Allow dragging of workspaces to reorganize them"
[09:33] <DeltaEpsilon> that is not a bug
[09:33] <DeltaEpsilon> it is a feature
[09:33] <Lasers_> (Leaving. Halo Reach is starting)
[09:34] <Lasers_> The match.
[09:34] <DeltaEpsilon> "applications loading isn’t fast enough" <-- mine load almost instantly
[09:34] <DeltaEpsilon> a lot of those aren't really bugs
[09:35] <taskete_kure> Hi guys, need help here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/85041/how-to-enable-desktop-effects-on-my-ubuntu-11-10.
[09:36] <delinquentme> fget is used for downloading right?  which is a standard included package within ubuntu 10.04 ... correct?
[09:36] <andrew_46> delinquentme: wget?
[09:37] <delinquentme> there we go
[09:38] <delinquentme> andrew_46, but it looks like its not an included package
[09:38] <taskete_kure> Hi guys, need help here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/85041/how-to-enable-desktop-effects-on-my-ubuntu-11-10.
[09:38] <guest_> Also my last attempt for you to try is the package gtklp
[09:39] <guest_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/759048/
[09:39] <andrew_46> delinquentme: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/wget
[09:39] <DeltaEpsilon> how do I make a ssh tunnel in xchat?
[09:39] <ZooMonkey> taskete_kure: what do u need help on? open synaptic search compiz. install the manager! That helps a lot. :) Enable it in Desktop Effects!
[09:39] <delinquentme> andrew_46, does that mean its included?
[09:40] <taskete_kure> ZooMonkey: Please see the edit of that question.
[09:40] <taskete_kure> Zeelot: Ignore the title. The problem isnt the same any more.
[09:40] <taskete_kure> ZooMonkey:  Ignore the title. The problem isnt the same any more.
[09:41] <andrew_46> delinquentme: If you mean on a default, initial install I am not 100% sure. But available as a downloadable package definitely
[09:41] <ZooMonkey> taskete_kure: Oh you have an INTEL i800 video? If this is true, then you cannot enable FX. Computer too old. I have one similar.
[09:41] <HQRaja> Hello!
[09:42] <taskete_kure> ZooMonkey: alright. how do i get my desktop back then? it isnt even functioning even more :(
[09:42] <HQRaja> How's it going, everyone?
[09:42] <B4ckBOne> good :-)
[09:42] <taskete_kure> ZooMonkey: I can do without desktop effects, but i need the main system working :(
[09:42] <ZooMonkey> taskete_kure: You can get a graphics card and I would suggest NVIDIA gForce. This will work when you turn computer on. and give FX once enable!
[09:42] <HQRaja> B4ckBOne: Glad to know =)
[09:42] <B4ckBOne> HQRaja: how are you?
[09:43] <HQRaja> B4ckBOne: Quite good myself, thanks =)
[09:43] <taskete_kure> ZooMonkey: I am broke right now.
[09:43] <excelsio1> http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/11/23/ubuntu-linux-losing-popularity-fast-new-unity-interface-to-blame/
[09:43] <andrew_46> delinquentme: Sorry if I am missing your meaning :)
[09:43] <taskete_kure> ZooMonkey: Screw desktop effects. How do I get the system to work again?
[09:43] <ZooMonkey> taskete_kure: Me too, but you can get a gForce for very cheap!!! As low as $30 for a very very good one!
[09:44] <delinquentme> andrew_46, nah you're doing fine :]
[09:44] <taskete_kure> ZooMonkey: In any case I cant get the graphics card right now. There is some urgent work that needs to be done, and for that I need the system working.
[09:44] <pnorman> Any suggestions for how to speed up the mv command when operating on small files?
[09:44] <ZooMonkey> taskete_kure: What do you mean you dont have desktop? How are you typing? ... ... what is the message?
[09:45] <taskete_kure> ZooMonkey: I didn't mean that. This is the problem: I made a few changes in CompizConfig settings, and a few effects started working. Like wobbly windows, and rotating cube. Then I tried enabling a few application switchers, and it asked me to resolve the conflicts. I guess one of them was "enable OpenGL". As I clicked it, everything crashed. Dock vanished. I only a see one bar at top with menus File, Edit, .., Bookmarks, Help.
[09:45] <taskete_kure> ZooMonkey: rking. What do I do? Please help! (Right now I am accessing web via a guest account. To get any work done, I have to be able to use my own account again.)
[09:45] <HQRaja> I have come across a situation that has left me rather clueless. You see, I am new to Ubuntu and as a matter of fact, I only recently installed it on my system. Now I was missing the touchpad's multi-touch gestures like two-finger scrolling etc. that I had on Windows, so I searched for the drivers.
[09:46] <ZooMonkey> taskete_kure: I would reinstall.
[09:46] <taskete_kure> ZooMonkey: I am not able to access any damn app. All I see is a bar at top that lets me access nautilus. thats all.
[09:47] <HQRaja> It turned out, my computer manufacturer (HP) provides drivers for Linux on the support website, which I downloaded. The instructions on the website tell me to just double-click the downloaded file and follow the instructions. However, the downloaded file is a .tar file.
[09:47] <taskete_kure> ZooMonkey: What about the gazillion apps that I have installed? I cant really afford to spend the time reinstalling OS again and again
[09:47] <ZooMonkey> taskete_kure: Yeah I'd put the CD in again, reboot, install, and tell it to use the Ubuntu HDD and/or Partition
[09:47] <taskete_kure> ZooMonkey: Alright. Maybe I should try that.
[09:47] <ZooMonkey> taskete_kure: Comes with the territory.
[09:48] <guest_> you can copy your installed packages to a file dpkg -l
[09:48] <guest_> The reinstall from that file quick and easy
[09:48] <taskete_kure> ZooMonkey: Isnt there any other solution? I guess if I am somehow able to access compiz settings and disable it, everything will work fine.
[09:48] <lsrline> Hi Everyone!  I'm mount my Drobo with NFS and I've come accross two ways of doing auto mounting it in fstab... one is drobo-fs:/mnt/DroboFS/Shares  /mnt/drobo  nfs   soft,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 and the other one is drobo-fs:/mnt/DroboFS/Shares    /mnt/drobo     nfs     rw,soft,proto=tcp     0     0 ... what's the difference (they both work)?
[09:48] <taskete_kure> ZooMonkey: Do you know how to do that?
[09:49] <ZooMonkey> taskete_kure: Yeah sure just switch your WM from a TTY!
[09:49] <guest_> lsrline is a bot
[09:49] <barelli> hi. i have the following problem. I'm using 2 desktops, each with its own xserver. But when i started firefox on one desktop i can't start firefox again on the otherone. How can I solve that?
[09:49] <ZooMonkey> taskete_kure: Srsly.
[09:49] <lsrline> guest_ what are you talking about?
[09:49] <ubuntu> hi i need to verify a cd
[09:49] <taskete_kure> ZooMonkey: I am a nood. Whats the command to disable compiz? And how do I access terminal in the first place?
[09:49] <taskete_kure> ZooMonkey: *noob
[09:50] <ubuntu> how can I make an md5 file to check a disk with brasero
[09:50] <guest_> I could have swarn that that question was alread posted word for word
[09:50] <lsrline> guest_: ah but was it ever answered?
[09:50] <ZooMonkey> taskete_kure: hehehehe :) well, when grubs asks to start, choose "Recovery mode" for ubuntu I think that is a start
[09:50] <guest_> About the automount :)
[09:50] <imark> ubuntu: in a terminal md5sum /path/to/file
[09:50] <taskete_kure> ZooMonkey: Okay, thanks.
[09:51] <ubuntu> imark: I need that for a directory tree
[09:51] <ZooMonkey> taskete_kure: then ... I would ... ... use another computer to google for "ubuntu switch WM" and find one with terminal commands
[09:52] <theadmin> ubuntu: md5sum /path/to/directory/*
[09:52] <ubuntu> thanks admin
[09:52] <ZooMonkey> taskete_kure: After you've switched WMs you can use one to uninstall the other, login to the original, re-set it up, boom, etc.
[09:52] <ubuntu> thanks @ all
[09:52] <insource> :)
[09:52] <tiox> I am having issues installing and using a cursor theme outside of what's available in the repositories.
[09:52] <imark> ubuntu: replace /path/to/file with the actual path to the file so if its /home/mark/Downloads/ubuntu.iso then use that#
[09:52] <ubuntu> theadmin: wait is that recursive?
[09:53] <theadmin> ubuntu: Not so sure. Here, this is sure to work: find /path/to/directory -type f -exec md5sum '{}' \;
[09:53] <tiox> Actually, hang on I might have figured it out...
[09:54] <ZooMonkey> ug. RegExps.
[09:55] <bekks> md5sum works with file argument - it isnt recursive, while find is.
[09:55] <B4ckBOne> i have a big ufw problem, could s.b. do me a favour and look at it? http://pastie.org/2963598
[09:55] <ZooMonkey> Yeah md5 is for file only.
[09:55] <Tuhin> how to get  specific deb files from the repository?
[09:55] <ZooMonkey> I've never seen an md5 of a directory!
[09:56] <theadmin> Tuhin: sudo apt-get --download-only install package1 package2 package3
[09:56] <theadmin> Tuhin: After that, search for them in /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:56] <pnorman> md5sum a/*/* will md5sum everything in a subdirectory under a
[09:57] <pnorman> although I think it might break if you have more than 32k files
[09:57] <ZooMonkey> yeah but the md5 program produces a separate hash for every file in there
[09:57] <Tuhin> theadmin: i want Ubuntu 11.10: 2.3.1-1~getdeb1 or  Ubuntu 10.04: 2.3.1-1~getdeb1   from http://www.playdeb.net/software/FreeCiv
[09:58] <ubuntu> yes I want to feed that list into brasero
[09:58] <ZooMonkey> the dir itself doesnt have a hash
[09:58] <ZooMonkey> :)
[09:58] <ubuntu> cause somebody forgot that ubuntu is for beginners
[09:58] <ubuntu> TOO
[09:59] <DonaldDick>  Yeah md5 is for file only. Not fully true dd if=/dev/xxx count=3 bs=512 > myfile | md5sum & rm myfile
[09:59] <scanf> will running RTAI affect usage/speed for a Desktop machine?
[09:59] <ZooMonkey> Two hundred and forty semod dollars!!!! For a bottle of Coca Cola!!! ~CNN !!!!!!!!!
[10:00] <ZooMonkey> the first bottle or something? ... ... ... ... .. still ... ...
[10:00] <DonaldDick> For coke WTF quick everybody buy pesi :)
[10:01] <zeekill> HELLO
[10:01] <ZooMonkey> If someone pays $240,000 for a bottle of coke they're off their rocker!
[10:02] <scanf> does anyone even know what RTAI is?
[10:02] <scanf> sigh
[10:02] <HQRaja> Is there a way to change the pinned icon positions in unity dock?
[10:02] <bekks> You dont want to use RTAI unless you a) know what it is and b) know why you need it.
[10:02] <HQRaja> I tried dragging but that doesn't appear to work.
[10:02] <scanf> bekks: i knowboth thosethings
[10:03] <scanf> bekks: I am just using this RTAI install for a few side tasks, seems fine speedwise
[10:03] <Tuhin> theadmin: i m on ubuntu 10.10 and the package i want is not available in that ubuntu repo, but available in latest repo
[10:03] <theadmin> Tuhin: You can't install Oneric packages on Lucid.
[10:03] <HQRaja> Anyone?
[10:03] <bekks> theadmin: You can, but you shouldnt.
[10:03] <theadmin> bekks: And this is why you can't ;)
[10:04] <bekks> theadmin: :D
[10:04] <andrew_46> Tuhin: Which package?
[10:04] <HQRaja> I'm sure there must be a way...they couldn't have overlooked something this basic. I just can't seem to figure the way.
[10:04] <ZooMonkey> really shouldn't install packs above your version #. Below is safer, but still risky.
[10:05] <Tuhin> Freeciv 2.3.1
[10:05] <Tuhin> are all packages in root directory at  ftp://kambing.ui.edu/pub/ubuntu-repository/Oneiric/    ?
[10:06] <HQRaja> Repeat: Is there a way to change the pinned icon positions in unity dock?
[10:06] <HQRaja> The vertical dock on the left i.e.
[10:06] <ubuntu> anybody knows a GUI tool for ubuntu to verify cds with an iso file?
[10:06] <HQRaja> By pinned, I mean the ones we have chosen to 'keep in launcher'
[10:07] <ZooMonkey> HQRaja: just hold-and-drag!
[10:07] <Tuhin> andrew_46: i want Freeciv 2.3.1
[10:07] <HQRaja> ZooMonkey: I tried just that but it doesn't work. It just drags the whole lot of icons there, and brings them right back when I release the mouse
[10:07] <ZooMonkey> HQRaja: Or maybe pinned messes that up? Unpin all the icons. Then try what you are trying.
[10:08] <Tuhin> the files might be named as freeciv-client-gtk_2.3.1-1~getdeb1_i386.deb , freeciv-server_2.3.1-1~getdeb1_i386.deb  and  freeciv-data_2.3.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[10:08] <tiox> Okay, am stuck.
[10:08] <HQRaja> ZooMonkey: Same goes with the unpinned ones. They do get dragged, just not individually. They get 'scrolled' instead...all together...and when I release the click, they slide back into the previous position.
[10:09] <HQRaja> ZooMonkey: Can you try it on yours to see if it behaves in the same manner?
[10:09] <tiox> I am trying to use a sex of large cursor icons, I currently have them in "/etc/X11/cursors". Help Me fill in the blank: update-alternatives --install x-cursor-theme ________________________________________
[10:09] <ZooMonkey> HQRaja: I am envisioning my old install in my mind. You are right it did do that. drag to desktop temporarily when you re-order. Drag bak into new places one at a time? I think that worked?
[10:10] <tiox> (And do I have to run as sudo?)
[10:11] <HQRaja> ZooMonkey: Oh what you just said helped! In fact I didn't even need to release them on the desktop...simply dragging horizontally to take them briefly off the dock and then bringing them back into your desireable position worked! Thanks a bunch =)
[10:11] <lnb> the newest release of ubuntu with gnome is pretty bad. I am surprised those who made it this way actually did it
[10:11] <lnb> it is horrific
[10:12] <ZooMonkey> HQRaja: Nice! Cheers :) Glad it worked for you!
[10:12] <HQRaja> lnb: The newest release of ubuntu uses Unity as its desktop shell, which is a departure from classic gnome.
[10:12] <lnb> and its sucks big time
[10:13] <lnb> so does gnome 3
[10:13] <HQRaja> Though in my personal opinion so far, the new Gnome shell has its quirks too...it's also a huge departure from classic Gnome 2
[10:13] <HQRaja> *nods*
[10:13] <lnb> i have tried finding solutions to fix it, but none do the job
[10:13] <HQRaja> Doesn't really suck that bad but yeah, it's a step in a different direction...more tablet-optimized
[10:13] <ZooMonkey> it lends to touchscreens best (Ubuntu 11.10)
[10:13] <HQRaja> Will certainly take some getting used-to
[10:13] <lnb> read what torvalds says
[10:13] <lnb> read what a LOT of people say
[10:13] <lnb> anyway
[10:14] <lnb> who am i.. no bodys
[10:14] <HQRaja> I'm myself in the process of getting used to it and I'm personally liking unity more than the new gnome shell so far
[10:14] <ZooMonkey> Wm Choice on install!
[10:14] <ZooMonkey> that's still my vote.
[10:14] <Tuhin> how can i get the files freeciv-client-gtk_2.3.1-1~getdeb1_i386.deb , freeciv-server_2.3.1-1~getdeb1_i386.deb  and  freeciv-data_2.3.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb  from the Repository
[10:14] <HQRaja> Yeah, there should be a choice on install and the gnome 2 interface (non-tablet, mouse-optimized) shouldn't be abandoned like it has been.
[10:15] <lnb> that is right
[10:15] <Svr_Sakura> hello, I was wondering how do i install kernel headers and kernel devel packages?
[10:15] <theadmin> Tuhin: You were told, you can't install packages from an Ubuntu version that doesn't match yours. What's not clear about that?
[10:15] <ubuntu> anybody knows a tool for ubuntu to verify cds with an iso file?
[10:15] <dr_willis> gnome 2 devs dropped support.. its dead basically, and theres a limit on the manpower for ubuntu development,
[10:15] <bekks> ubuntu: md5sum
[10:15] <HQRaja> Because seriously, how many of us use touch screens on our non-smartphone and non-tablet computers like laptops/desktops?
[10:15] <theadmin> ubuntu: md5sum /dev/sr0 && md5sum something.iso
[10:16] <ZooMonkey> once they make a "Choice of desktop at install" app too, they can add other desktops! Like LXDE! Onto the same disk.
[10:16] <lnb> i just cant believe the people who made ubuntu went to this extreme. Obviously not business people.
[10:16] <ZooMonkey> that will be fancy dancy! ... ... but I wouldnt even know where to start.
[10:16] <Tuhin> theadmin: i cant install 10.04  Game packages in 10.10  ?!!!
[10:16] <llutz> Svr_Sakura: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:16] <theadmin> Tuhin: No.
[10:16] <Svr_Sakura> thanks
[10:16] <Tuhin> its just a game and shouldnt make problem
[10:16] <Tuhin> :(
[10:16] <dr_willis> ZooMonkey:  theres allready a netboot variant that does that.  But it would just cause more confuseion i imagine.
[10:16] <lnb> one of my clients want 40 ubuntu workstations, i said on friday forget it.
[10:16] <dr_willis> Tuhin:  what package/game?
[10:17] <ZooMonkey> Wha chu talkin out Willis??!!!??!?!?!? :O Im bout to get  the netboot of the new LTS for sure.
[10:17] <dr_willis> ZooMonkey:  its not the offical netboot that has the feature. but some spinoff/variant i saw on ombubuntu, or webupd8 blogs.
[10:17] <Tuhin> Freeciv 2.3.1
[10:18] <dr_willis> Tuhin:  you have a need for an older freeciv version?
[10:18] <ZooMonkey> Oh OK yeah I think I know what you speak of
[10:18] <Tuhin> it have 3 packages , freeciv-client-gtk_2.3.1-1~getdeb1_i386.deb , freeciv-server_2.3.1-1~getdeb1_i386.deb  and  freeciv-data_2.3.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[10:18] <Tuhin> no i want the latest
[10:18] <Tuhin> i have the older 2.2.5 installed
[10:18] <theadmin> Tuhin: You can download the latest freeciv packages from http://freeciv.org without all the mess with getdeb
[10:18] <Svr_Sakura> have you tried to compile from source?
[10:18] <dr_willis> Tuhin:  theres most likely a PPA for the latest. ifyou have the debs allready try 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb' or try  using gdebi to install them
[10:18] <Tuhin> those 3 file names are my estimated file names
[10:19] <Tuhin> i can install debs,
[10:19] <Tuhin> but i dotn have the debs
[10:19] <dr_willis> the getdeb repo should setup/include all neede dependencies if you are using that reposiutory
[10:19] <Tuhin> its in the 10.04 and 11.04 repos
[10:19] <Svr_Sakura> are the files in repositories always the latest released by whoever wrote them?
[10:19] <bekks> Svr_Sakura: No.
[10:19] <dr_willis> Svr_Sakura:  no they are not always the latest.
[10:19] <Svr_Sakura> yea... that was more for Tuhin's benefit then mine
[10:19] <Tuhin>  its in the 10.04 and 11.10**   repos
[10:20] <chalcedony> greetings dr_willis *hugs*
[10:20] <dr_willis> hello chalcedony
[10:20] <Tuhin> the packages inthe 10.10 repos r older version
[10:20] <chalcedony> :)\
[10:20] <ubuntu> theadmin: thanks for the try
[10:20] <dr_willis> Tuhin:  i think its time you started from the beginning. what version of ubuntu you got.. what you are trying to do.. its gotten confused.
[10:20] <Tuhin> i know the latest r availalbe in 11.10 seeing this page http://www.playdeb.net/software/FreeCiv
[10:21] <Tuhin> i m on Ubuntu 10.10
[10:21] <Tuhin> but 10.10 repos dont have the latest version of THAT game
[10:21] <Tuhin> it have older 2.2.5 version
[10:22] <Svr_Sakura> of course not... it's not supported any mo re...
[10:22] <dr_willis> !10.10
[10:22] <Tuhin> i know, but i dont want to reinstall
[10:22] <Tuhin> i will wait till 12.04
[10:22] <dr_willis> You  need to eitehr - find a 'ppa' with that game for your release, or some other reposutiory. or compile from source.
[10:22] <Tuhin> the latest debs r already in 10.04 repo
[10:23] <Tuhin> can u just give me the links so that i can download the deb files?
[10:23] <dr_willis> you mean 11.04?
[10:23] <msergiu80> can somebody help me with a partitioning cloning question?
[10:23] <Tuhin> no 10.04 and 11.10
[10:23] <Svr_Sakura> you have 10.10 or 10.04?
[10:23] <dr_willis> you are saying 10.04 has a newer version of the game in its repos.. that would be odd..
[10:23] <Tuhin> i have 10.10
[10:24] <Tuhin> but 10.10 repo have old version
[10:24] <Tuhin> i want the latest, latest availalbe in 10.04 and 11.10 repos
[10:24] <Tuhin> but that odd thing is true :|
[10:24] <Svr_Sakura> Tuhin go to the freeciv website, grab the source and compile from there...if you want the latest...
[10:24] <Tuhin> i cant compile
[10:25] <Svr_Sakura> why not?
[10:25] <Tuhin> i think some of u can get me the links to the 3 needed files
[10:25] <Tuhin> the 3 fiels must be in the repo FTP ?
[10:26] <bekks> Tuhin: No. Only if the repo uses FTP.
[10:26] <ZooMonkey> some repos are GIT
[10:26] <Tuhin> i saw ISO files of the whole repo
[10:26] <ZooMonkey> or that other one
[10:26] <ZooMonkey> lol
[10:26] <dr_willis> heh. get deb only shows it backported to 10.04 and 11.10
[10:26] <dr_willis> http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/11.10/?q=freeciv
[10:27] <Tuhin> ok so is there any ftp serving the repository files?
[10:27] <theadmin> Tuhin: You can just type the repo URL in the browser bar and search for it, but I can't guarantee it will install and work.
[10:27] <ZooMonkey> Im hittin the hay! GNite
[10:30] <Tuhin> dr_willis: thats why i need the debs only , so that i can install in 10.10
[10:31] <N1tr0g3n> Hello
[10:31] <N1tr0g3n> I want to ask something about software repos
[10:31] <dr_willis> trying to install differnt reelase debs most likely will fail big time. since the compiled against libs are not the same. Tuhin
[10:31] <N1tr0g3n> Why is the software on Ubuntu so old?!
[10:31] <dr_willis> Hmm freeciv in a browser. http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/freecivnet-play-freeciv-using-your-web.html
[10:32] <dr_willis> N1tr0g3n:  because everything gets updated every 6 mo. basically.. not a rolling release.
[10:32] <N1tr0g3n> But the packagers could at least build Firefox 8 when it was out
[10:32] <theadmin> N1tr0g3n: Sadly, Ubuntu isn't a rolling release, and they don't care about the old versions much
[10:32] <dr_willis> only btween release updates are mainly security or other critucal fix's
[10:32] <N1tr0g3n> Ubuntu repos offered only 3.6
[10:32] <Tuhin> dr_willis: i think a game cant fail big time or cause instability
[10:32] <N1tr0g3n> Uhm OK then
[10:32] <dr_willis> Tuhin:  it can fail to run or install due to differnt vbersion gtk and otehr libs.
[10:33] <N1tr0g3n> dr_willis thank you and goodbye
[10:33] <Tuhin> there r 3 deb files i need
[10:33] <Tuhin> freeciv-client-gtk_2.3.1-1~getdeb1_i386.deb , freeciv-server_2.3.1-1~getdeb1_i386.deb  and  freeciv-data_2.3.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[10:33] <hiatu> i need around 80~100 dollar graphics card but im not sure which one has the best drivers. any suggestions
[10:34] <dr_willis> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/  Tuhin  start digging i guess.. and  the 'getdeb' versions are from the getdeb repos...
[10:34] <dr_willis> i cant fgure out the ftp/http server for getdeb.. i never use them
[10:34] <Tuhin> ok thanks
[10:34] <dr_willis> and the url i got was from your sources.list file...
[10:34] <Tuhin> but i saw getdebs DL the old version of freeciv from the ubuntu10.10 repo
[10:35] <dr_willis> if it has 'getdeb' in the deb name.. then its a speical build on their repos..
[10:35] <Tuhin> so if i find 10.04 repo ftp , then i can get the fiels from that
[10:36] <dr_willis> !info freeciv
[10:37] <Tuhin> how come!
[10:37] <bekks> Tuhin: Why dont you just visit the repo URL and download the files manually, using your browser?
[10:38] <Tuhin> the repo url will take forever
[10:38] <dr_willis> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/freeciv/         good luck...
[10:38] <Tuhin> i will try now
[10:38] <dr_willis> it will?
[10:38] <dr_willis> info came from the sources.list and me browseing about..
[10:38] <tolga> .
[10:39] <Tuhin> that link have old 2.2.7 version
[10:39] <gunfire007> how to check the ip address of my system ?
[10:39] <dr_willis> that link is from the 11.10 repos... which is what you said had the latest..
[10:39] <Baccari> any good tutorial on programming a multithreaded server in C on Linux ?
[10:39] <bekks> Tuhin: So what do you want to do then? There are no current packages in the 10.10 repo, all you can use is the PPA, which you dont want to use because it is slow. Dowhatnow?
[10:40] <dr_willis> bekks:  the ppa for 10.10 dident have the updated version. no one seems to care about 10.10 :)
[10:40] <Tuhin> i saw latest available for 10.04 and 11.10 at playdeb / getdeb
[10:40] <bekks> dr_willis: Thats life :D
[10:41] <dr_willis> Tuhin:  thats not an official repo. i dont use them. follow the get deb directions and see what address they add to your sources.list  files and follow the address to their site/server
[10:41]  * dr_willis has had serious breakage from stuff from getdeb
[10:42] <Tuhin> getdeb found i have 10.10and installed old version of the game........
[10:42] <Tuhin> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/natty/universe/binary-i386/   i m lost in the nutty repo
[10:42] <dr_willis> Tuhin:  because thats the only version they have for your relase in the repos.. check the added entry they put in your sources.list or sources.list.d files and follow the  address to their servers if you want to try to force the other versions.
[10:43] <Tuhin> i forgot where sources.list  is located
[10:44] <dr_willis> 'locate sources.list'  :)
[10:44] <dr_willis> its in /etc/apt/
[10:44] <Tuhin> http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu
[10:44] <dr_willis> google hit for 'getdeb ftp server' finds --> http://her.gr.distfiles.macports.org/mirrors/getdeb/getdeb/
[10:45] <Tuhin> deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu maverick-getdeb games
[10:46] <Tuhin> Lucid = 10.04 ?
[10:46] <dr_willis> !lucid
[10:47] <obelus> Is there a D compiler that comes standard with Ubuntu?
[10:47] <MichaelClare> did i get a free email address from registering with nickserv?
[10:47] <zairakai> Hi all.
[10:48] <obelus> MichaelClare, no.
[10:48] <MichaelClare> such as MichaelClare@irc.freenet.org
[10:48] <dr_willis> obelus:  thers no compilers  for C that come by default. python and perl are included . perhaps pthers
[10:48] <dr_willis> or was D/C not a typo? :)
[10:48] <obelus> dr_willis, no typo, I meant D
[10:48] <dr_willis> obelus:  never heard of it. so i doubt if. :)
[10:49] <dr_willis> Not much of any Devlopment stuff is included by default
[10:49] <obelus> dr_willis, I just meant like a default that was installed with build-tools or whatever the package is called, and if you're interested: http://d-programming-language.org/
[10:50] <dr_willis> your use of 'defaut' is a bit vage. :) if you mean 'in the repos' check the package manager i guess..
[10:50] <obelus> dr_willis, I meant one that would be installed as a dependency of build-tools.
[10:51] <obelus> dr_willis, but I guess I'll just go looking around for one in the repos
[10:51] <dr_willis> with a name like 'D' makes it very hard to even search for. :)
[10:51] <obelus> I know, right?
[10:51] <obelus> That's why I was asking here :P
[10:52] <obelus> I could just install one off of the D website, I just prefer to use software from apt
[10:52] <dr_willis> apt-cache search digital  | grep mars
[10:52] <dr_willis> perhaps
[10:53] <dr_willis> !info ldc
[10:53] <dr_willis> saw that by 'apt-cache search dmd' :)
[10:54] <obelus> O.o ldc... never heard of that compiler. Ty, i'll have a look at it :)
[10:54]  * dr_willis recalls programing in somthing called 'E' on his amiga eons ago... :)
[10:56] <obelus> ... awww. Stupid pangolin, the dependency isn't installable
[10:57] <obelus> I've got dmd from the D website, apparently have to install 64-bit libs for gcc...
[10:57] <theadmin> obelus: We don't support 12.04 here, please visit #ubuntu+1
[10:57] <obelus> theadmin, I know. I wasn't asking for help with that.
[10:57] <obelus> theadmin, I'm already in #ubuntu+1
[10:58] <theadmin> #chromium-support is silent as a frozen lake, so I'm going to ask here: Does anyone know of a way to make Chrome/Chromium change to last used tab after the current one is closed, as opposed to just changing to one on the left of it?
[10:58] <dr_willis> theadmin:  parhaps a tab history extension?
[10:58] <theadmin> dr_willis: Hm, do you know of any decent ones?
[10:59] <dr_willis> theadmin:  i dont een know if any exist...
[10:59] <dr_willis> :)
[10:59] <theadmin> dr_willis: lols xD Not a chrome user I suppose
[10:59] <dr_willis> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search/tab%20history
[11:00] <dr_willis> I use it all the time.
[11:00] <dr_willis> I just dont need that sort of an extsnsion.
[11:00] <sl33k> WinFF is not able to convert .vob to .avi. Which other alternative do i have?
[11:00] <html> what about chrome, or its cousin?
[11:01] <dr_willis> 'toomany tabs for chrome' -->> Sort tabs by creation time, domain or title
[11:01] <dr_willis> sl33k:  'to avi' is  a bit vague.. its all about the codec in the avi.
[11:01] <dr_willis> and ive definatly used winff/ffmpeg to convert vob to 'avi' files befor.
[11:02] <dr_willis> sl33k:  arista is a new and popular alternative to winff.
[11:02] <theadmin> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dbepggeogbaibhgnhhndojpepiihcmeb?hl=en-US - freaking epic >.<
[11:02] <sl33k> dr_willis: i get some error. i pastebin?
[11:05] <andrew_46> sl33k: Any particular reason to use avi container? Better is mp4 or mkv
[11:07] <renwal> does (CRON) info (No MTA installed, discarding output) without any other error message indicate the job failed or... just that the output was discarded ?
[11:07] <sl33k> andrew_46: not really. mp4 alo doesnt seem to work
[11:07] <sl33k> *also
[11:07] <dr_willis> sl33k:  you could i guess.. but i imagine its  an issue of you tryign to get winff to convert to a format/codec that the ffmpeg installed dosent support.
[11:07] <llutz> renwal: "just that the output was discarded"
[11:07] <renwal> thanks:)
[11:08] <dr_willis> I definatly use winff to convert to mp4 all the time. :)
[11:08] <andrew_46> sl33k: Are you able to pastebin the error?
[11:08] <dr_willis> but it may be that ive got a custome ffmpeg installed also. or the one from medibuntu
[11:08] <Tuhin> i feel liek switching back to winxp :(
[11:08] <Tuhin> couldn't find 2.3.1 Freeciv
[11:09] <dr_willis> this is why people normally stick to LTS, or the latest release.. not in btween
[11:09] <Tuhin> i started linux with 10.10
[11:09] <Tuhin> didnt kno abt LTS stuff back then
[11:09] <Tuhin> i dont like reinstallign over and over
[11:10] <Tuhin> i installed lots of apps in this install
[11:10] <sl33k> dr_willis, andrew_46: http://pastebin.com/5br2DVpK
[11:10] <Tuhin> dont want to install again
[11:10] <dr_willis> You can upgrade 10.10 to 11.04 if you wanted to. but i always do clean isntalls.. as a way of clearing out the fluff i alwyas manage to install.
[11:10] <dr_willis> in the time its taken you looking for that game, i could have renstalled like twice.. :)
[11:10] <pnorman> My install and initial setup took me more than a weekend
[11:10] <andrew_46> sl33k: 'Unknown encoder 'libmp3lame' is the issue
[11:11] <dr_willis> you dont have the mp3 libs installed..
[11:11] <andrew_46> sl33k: Strip from libavcodec by the Ubuntu developers for licensing reasons
[11:12] <andrew_46> sl33k: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1117283
[11:12] <Tuhin> dr_willis: there r many other programs installed tooo
[11:14] <sl33k> htg i'll ask later. thanks
[11:14] <theadmin> dr_willis: Do you mind if I PM you to ask you something?
[11:14] <theadmin> dr_willis: It's about chrome and ain't really support-related so I don't think it belongs to the channel
[11:16] <dr_willis> theadmin:  i dont really do a lot with chrome :) other then use it. heh
[11:17] <dr_willis> Hmm. i cant get to the other chennels via alt-# in  terminator.. for some reason
[11:17] <theadmin> dr_willis: Well still :D I somehow don't know many Chrome users (maybe cause I switched yesterday?)
[11:17] <dr_willis> chrome overtook firefox in % of users last week i think.
[11:18] <arunce> I use both browsers
[11:18] <dr_willis> running terminator on windows. via xming/ssh forwarding.. :) seems my alt keys dont work in it.
[11:18] <Tuhin> chrome sends user data back to google
[11:18] <dr_willis> may have to go back to using putty.
[11:18] <Tuhin> iron browser dotn ahve those google stuff
[11:19]  * dr_willis gets out his tinfoil hat.
[11:19] <Tuhin> IronBrowser = Chrome without Google addons
[11:19] <Tuhin> it feels little faster to me too
[11:20] <dr_willis> i web surf 90% of the time from my phone more then i do a real pc these days..
[11:20] <theadmin> I don't mind Google spying on me, not like they wouldn't already xD I use GMail, their search, Google Docs, etc...
[11:20] <Myrtti> dr_willis: #terminator may or may not be able to help :-)
[11:20] <dr_willis> Myrtti:  i think its more of a xming issue.
[11:21] <Myrtti> dr_willis: sure :-)
[11:21] <dr_willis> my main ubuntu box is a headless ssh server sitting in the basement.
[11:21] <dr_willis> i ssh/vnc/znc to it from my other machines
[11:21] <theadmin> dr_willis: wth is znc?
[11:21] <dr_willis> an irc proxy/bouncer
[11:22] <html> ironbroswer?
[11:22] <dr_willis> i can connect with any of my irc clients from any pc/phone and i only show up here once.
[11:22] <dr_willis> works better for my android phone then connecting here directly.
[11:22] <theadmin> dr_willis: Neat.
[11:22] <killswitchguy> hi guys, im having a problem with my display. it suddenly went to 1024*728 mode and i cant set it back to 1440*6xx
[11:22] <dr_willis> plus all the pc's are showing the same text here.  so i an sit at any pc. with any client and see the same stuff/rooms
[11:23] <dr_willis> and i only appear here once. :) because i am only connecting to freenode once.
[11:23] <html> huh???
[11:23] <html> 1nc?
[11:23] <ia> Hello. I've tried to install 11.10 (amd64) on pc-based laptop with uefi support (no secure boot); installation is going well, instead of grub-pc i've got installed grub-efi automatically; I use gpt label on disk, so first partition is 200 mb fat uefi boot, and grub automatically places there grubx64.efi firmware file for booting. But when computer booting, i've got "non system disk or disk error" error. And if I choose grubx64.efi file manually for booting from bo
[11:23] <ia> ot menu, system is booting correctly. I will be very appreciate for any clues about this issue. Thanks.
[11:23] <dr_willis> several irc clients ---> znc server --> all get forwarded here.
[11:23] <SpiKe_Spiegel> killswitchguy: Did you change your video driver ?
[11:24] <killswitchguy> no
[11:24] <dr_willis> if they all disconnect.. znc is still here.. which is why you never see me leave.
[11:24] <killswitchguy> i tried x randr and it doesn't display it
[11:26] <Si2100> Hey
[11:26]  * airtonix wonders if there are impersonal computer based laptops around
[11:26] <html> dr_willis,  i have once seen you leave , (ghost )  SO THIS IS HOW,, every clever
[11:26] <html> hi
[11:27] <dr_willis> html:  :) we had power outage here the other day for several hours.
[11:27] <dr_willis> this is why you always seem me say 'bbl' or 'off to work' :) and i then reappear magically..
[11:27] <html> 5:30am ....ahh
[11:28] <dr_willis> i also tend to use screen with weechat. :) so i dont even need to run differnt irc clients.
[11:28] <theadmin> dr_willis: so znc acts like jabber somewhat, I see, you can also connect with multiple clients there and only the one you've been using most recently gets the messages xD
[11:28] <theadmin> dr_willis: Why screen over tmux if I may ask?
[11:29] <html> dr_willis,  i say with with you it would be really dead around here,,, especially a few month before a os release
[11:29] <dr_willis> theadmin: i know screen
[11:29] <theadmin> dr_willis: lol oh
[11:29] <dr_willis> i used to use 'twin' years ago instead of screen. :) but its not in the repos any more.
[11:29] <vagothcpp> im unsure but is there an option to download packages from apt to a directory without installing it to the system so that I can add it to a local repository?
[11:30] <theadmin> vagothcpp: apt-get --download-only install blah bleh bloh
[11:30] <html> dr_willis,  whats not?
[11:30] <theadmin> vagothcpp: You'll find them in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:30] <dr_willis> 'twin' was a multi-plexing terminal emulatore. similer to tmux.
[11:30] <vagothcpp> theadmin, and what about setting it for the life of the command to download to a different location
[11:30] <dr_willis> twin was also a bit like terminator in ways.
[11:30] <html> i dont know wht that is
[11:30] <theadmin> vagothcpp: Hmm, I'm not sure if you can do that...
[11:31] <dr_willis> html:  thats what screen, and tmux do :)
[11:31] <html> really?
[11:31] <dr_willis> !info screen
[11:31] <theadmin> vagothcpp: But, you can make /var/cache/apt/archives a symlink to elsewhere ;)
[11:31] <dr_willis> !info tmux
[11:31] <dr_willis> !info twin
[11:31] <vagothcpp> theadmin, true
[11:31] <dr_willis> :(
[11:32] <html> well this is lunix, u want it too work , then get going
[11:32] <dr_willis> Hmm. seems twin has been reborn as T2 -> www.t2-project.org
[11:32] <html> and i know the doctor can get it to work
[11:32] <dr_willis> i just use screen :)
[11:33] <html> how do you type so fast?
[11:33] <vagothcpp> theadmin, i was hoping i could choose a directory since im writing a perl script to add/update/remove debs from a local repository
[11:33] <html> if i could type faster i could troll out the damn botts and help more ppl
[11:34] <pangolin> !ot | html
[11:34] <vagothcpp> html, if this wanst a text-chat system, you could implement a captcha auth system =P
[11:35] <alexalva> hi!
[11:35] <Default> _/nick default__
[11:35] <html> pangolin, ??? huh
[11:36] <calebe> either my update manager nor my ubuntu software center are opening, what should I do ?
[11:37] <vagothcpp> just out of curiosity, there is no software out there that does what I am trying to do?
[11:38] <html> vagothcpp,  yeah lol ,, well i was trying to imply a speech to text program , like http://nuance.com/dragon/index.htm        for windows
[11:38] <dr_willis> i just use the apt-cacher-ng service to cache packages for my whole lan. easier then setting up a repo.
[11:38] <html> vagothcpp,  whats that?
[11:39] <vagothcpp> dr_willis, well i have no internet so i go and scrounge wifi nets in the city to save them
[11:40] <vagothcpp> html, i've used dragon before, although i had a problem with it not recognizing my australian accent
[11:41] <html> lololol i see ,,,, that would cause a smaller problem then what i have,,,well did you see setting so it would work out...
[11:42] <francesca> hi all
[11:42] <html> what are you looking for?
[11:42] <francesca> I've got problem with Internet key
[11:42] <vagothcpp> html, moi?
[11:42] <html> huh? moi means?
[11:43] <oCean> !who | html
[11:43] <html> oCean,  i ask the the gruop what was moi?
[11:44] <francesca> when I insert usb key, the modem is not recognized and not attached to ttyACM*. cdc_acm is not loaded. In the debian machine is working correctly. Why*
[11:44] <vagothcpp> html, moi == me
[11:44] <vagothcpp> in french
[11:44] <francesca> anybody could help?
[11:44] <oCean> html: if you're just going to ask "what are you looking for" no one knows who you are talking to
[11:45] <vagothcpp> html, i apologize, i am speaking french to my family and it is hard to switch languages for short words
[11:45] <anAngel> Hello. DHCPd says "Unable to add forward map from 5ee139e776f7427.x.x.x. to 192.168.0.125: timed out" but it also says "Added new forward map from Server.x.x.x. to 192.168.0.2" in the logs. DNS is Bind9. Something like it cant add new entries but can update old ones. Any suggestions?
[11:45] <dr_willis> bbl. :)
[11:45] <html> ahh,,, well this is ENGish channel only vagothcpp   lol jk
[11:46] <html> oCean,  ahh ok
[11:46] <francesca> ok, i've got a problem. am i in the right place?
[11:47] <html> yes
[11:47] <html> yes yes
[11:47] <html> no non no
[11:47] <vagothcpp> html, well i am looking at a solution to downloading and storing deb files, their deps and suggests so i can install at home, atm i am writing a perl script to do so but iwas wandering whether there is already a solution
[11:47] <francesca> fanculo
[11:48] <theadmin> vagothcpp: There is actually
[11:48] <theadmin> vagothcpp: aptoncd
[11:49] <vagothcpp> theadmin, thank you
[11:51] <Killarny> I'm using ubuntu unity on a cr-48 which has no super key, so unity has decided to let me use the capslock key to pull open the launcher (which is nice) but I can't use any caps+anything shortcuts because unity takes full control of the launcher key
[11:51] <Killarny> any way to disable that, so unity only responds to specific key combinations, not every time I press the trigger key?
[11:52] <theadmin> Killarny: Nice. But try using xmodmap to map some other key you never use, say, "Break", to produce caps lock
[11:52] <Killarny> no break key :P
[11:52] <theadmin> Killarny: You get my point -- any key you don't use :D
[11:52] <Killarny> the cr-48 keyboard has very few extra keys
[11:53] <theadmin> Killarny: Oh... I see... Hm.
[11:53] <Killarny> the capslock key is really the only one
[11:54] <theadmin> Killarny: Launch xev and see if the Capslock key has actually been remapped to act like the Windows/Super key
[11:54] <Killarny> xev doesn't appear to respond to anything... I'm not sure what it's supposed to do, but it just shows a black box regardless of what I press
[11:55] <theadmin> Killarny: Um, it's supposed to print some output to the terminal...
[11:55] <Killarny> oh silly me, I used alt-f2 to run it
[11:57] <Killarny> I suspect this is related to unity trying to be helpful by showing what keys are available when you hold down super
[11:58] <Killarny> I need to be able to remap some keys to home/end/pgup/pgdn and so on more than I need help showing me what unity keys are around :)
[11:59] <theadmin> Killarny: xmodmap is capable of that, you just need to know what is currently mapped to what
[11:59] <Killarny> capslock seems to be mapped to 36 .. not sure which value I'm looking for
[12:00] <Killarny> I don't have a super key to check if that's the right value for super
[12:01] <theadmin> Killarny: Just try this: xmodmap -e 'keysym super_l=capslock' #Or something, I don't really remember the proper names
[12:01] <kundancool> can anyone help me with usb0 interface on Ubuntu 11.10
[12:01] <bekks> Not without a detailed problem.
[12:02] <kundancool> ?
[12:02] <bekks> !details | kundancool
[12:02] <kundancool> oh sorry
[12:02] <kundancool> I am running Ubuntu 11.10
[12:02] <kundancool> I am trying to access USB NET on my Motorola ROKR E6 device
[12:03] <kundancool> through usb0 interface as I used to do on older versions of ubuntu
[12:03] <kundancool> but I am unable to find usb0 interface
[12:03] <kundancool> its not there
[12:03] <kundancool> when I connect my Phone I can see it
[12:03] <kundancool> through lsusb command
[12:04] <kundancool> Bus 004 Device 005: ID 22b8:6027 Motorola PCS USBLAN
[12:05] <kundancool> so can anyone tell me how to get usb0 interface so that I can connect to my device on Ubuntu 11.10
[12:05] <bekks> kundancool: Do you have an usb0 interface?
[12:06] <kundancool> no
[12:06] <bekks> Then you cant connect to it ;)
[12:06] <kundancool> I used to connect on older versions of Ubuntu
[12:06] <kundancool> why not on 11.10 ?
[12:07] <bekks> kundancool: Did you have to install some software on older versions?
[12:07] <bekks> kundancool: Or did it work out of the box?
[12:08] <kundancool> it works out of the box
[12:08] <kundancool> without problems on older versions
[12:09] <kundancool> older versions can detect usb0 without any extra software
[12:10] <bekks> kundancool: usb0 isnt "detected" - it is just a name for the network interface your mobile provides.
[12:10] <bekks> kundancool: maybe you can find some more help in the forums about that?
[12:10] <kundancool> I already asked in forums but got no response
[12:11] <kundancool> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870458
[12:11] <kundancool> this wiki page some info about this http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking
[12:11] <kundancool> but its for N900
[12:11] <kundancool> I don't think this trick will work for me
[12:12] <bekks> kundancool: You could still try it. Otherwise you wont know it ;)
[12:17] <kundancool> ok I will try and report back
[12:21] <anAngel> Hello. DHCPd says "Unable to add forward map from 5ee139e776f7427.x.x.x. to 192.168.0.125: timed out" but it also says "Added new forward map from Server.x.x.x. to 192.168.0.2" in the logs. DNS is Bind9. Something like it cant add new entries but can update old ones. Any suggestions?
[12:23] <hirogen1> ubuntu on a usb stick there like a bigger version that contains more drivers and features?
[12:23] <bekks> No.
[12:25] <hirogen1> k
[12:25] <hirogen1> suppose i need to hook it up to lan
[12:26] <bekks> hirogen1: That wont give you "more drivers and features".
[12:28] <hirogen1> k
[12:48] <nitinab> hello there
[12:50] <ubuntu> elo
[12:50] <ubuntu> ?
[12:51] <bekks> EHLO. :P
[12:51] <theadmin> lol bekks
[12:53] <is_null> hi all, any known workaround against low max volume (hda-intel) on ubuntu oneiric ?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> is_null  open a Terminal and type alsamixer
[12:56] <is_null> MonkeyDust: i should have warned: i know alsamixer and i've been googling for half an hour
[12:56] <is_null> apparently there's a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/864379 but no helpful comments ...
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> well, there you have it, then
[12:57] <is_null> are all oneiric hda-intel users affected ? a workaround would be great :)
[12:57] <is_null> yes i have low volume, i'm looking for a workaround
[12:57] <theadmin> is_null: You could maybe try pavucontrol which allows increasing volume over 100%
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> is_null  i have an intel soundcard, but no issue here
[12:59] <is_null> thanks, i can work now :)
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> fixed?
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> if yes, share with us how you did it, for future reference
[13:01] <is_null> thanks, i installed pavucontrol then i opened it then i set the mixers to 153 percent now at least i can ear stuff
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> !yay
[13:04] <dsfdsfdsf> dfdsdf
[13:05] <is_null> ubottu: me too, not thanks to you
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:05] <Sidewinder1> Mornin'! BluesKaj
[13:05] <BluesKaj> hey Sidewinder1
[13:05] <Sidewinder1> :D
[13:07] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, A little slow in here, this mornin'; but that's a good thing. It means that everyone already has all the answers to their questions. :-)
[13:09] <root_> How can i burn a CD in ubuntu?
[13:09] <Sidewinder1> !rootirc | Phillip
[13:09] <bekks> Phillip: First, do not use the root account for visiting IRC.
[13:09] <Phillip> Sorry I just changed
[13:09] <Sidewinder1> bekks, Beat 'ya. :D
[13:10] <bekks> Sidewinder1: 1:0 for you :P
[13:10] <Sidewinder1> 0
[13:10] <Sidewinder1> )
[13:10] <bekks> :D
[13:11] <Sidewinder1> Phillip, Have you tried Brasero?
[13:12] <Phillip> No I'll have a look at it
[13:12] <bekks> Use k3b instead ;)
[13:13] <deci_> ahoy ahoy. any command line gurus here? :P i was playing with "mail" and although i dont even have any kind of mail server running, it DID send a mail out with my linux user name and host name as sender! :-O how is that possible?
[13:13] <rhin0> sendmail?
[13:13] <deci_> i just used "mail -s bla bla@bla.bla"
[13:13] <rhin0> all the mail will go through senmail
[13:14] <deci_> and then entered a text :D
[13:14] <Sidewinder1> Through hail, sleet, snow, etc..
[13:14] <rhin0> is it pop3
[13:14] <rhin0>  never done it -- easy to set up?
[13:14] <rhin0> should do it
[13:14] <Phillip> VLC Player is not working on my setup, what are some other media players I can get?
[13:14] <rhin0> totem?
[13:15] <Sidewinder1> Phillip, Totem..
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> audacious
[13:15] <Sidewinder1> !player | Phillip
[13:15] <rhin0> one strange thing I found -- chrome plays video
[13:15] <Sidewinder1> :D
[13:16] <Phillip> I think the MP3 files may be broken as VLC and Banshee are not working with them :S
[13:16] <Kristof_D> Hi, I have a bunch of xml files and I'd like to extract the contents of two tags from each of them and write the output to a file, what's the easiest way to handle this
[13:16] <jrib> Kristof_D: xmlstarlet ?
[13:16] <Kristof_D> jrib, thx, I'll have a look
[13:17] <jrib> Kristof_D: either that or use an xml library for your favorite language :)
[13:17] <mamece2> hello i need some help. i have problems with my TRIDENT video card, in my old PC.
[13:17] <Sidewinder1> Phillip, It may also be a "codecs" issue.
[13:18] <mamece2> i can see the boot screen and console tty, but desktop is messed
[13:18] <Kristof_D> jrib, I knew that possibility, but I'm being somewhat lazy ;)
[13:18] <Phillip> Sidewinder how can I get some codecs?
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> Phillip  in synaptic
[13:19] <mamece2> i think is a resolution pŕoblem,. my card says it only support 300x400 wtf?
[13:20] <Sidewinder1> !codecs | Phillip
[13:20] <Phillip> Whats synaptic?
[13:20] <Sidewinder1> !synaptic | Phillip
[13:20] <Tech-1> sys/admin/synaptic
[13:20] <Sidewinder1> Isn't she wonderful? :-)
[13:20] <theadmin> Sidewinder1: VLC has it's own built-in codecs, and they do support MP3.
[13:21] <theadmin> Sidewinder1: So nothing to do about that.
[13:21] <Sidewinder1> theadmin, Never used vlc, never needed to..
[13:21] <Phillip> Im actually using backtrack
[13:22] <Sidewinder1> !backtrack
[13:23] <ikonia> Phillip: you've been told 3 times over the course of the irc session that backtrack support is in #backtrack-linux, yet you continue to keep asking in this channel. Please stop now.
[13:23] <mamece2> please i need some help with the xorg.conf file
[13:25] <BluesKaj> to srt VLC upproperly one needs to use >tools>audio settings to make it's using the default soundcard . VlC doesn't always auto detect the right sound card
[13:26] <BluesKaj> errin VLC ,  tools>preferences>audio
[13:27] <util> util
[13:27]  * BluesKaj needs more coffee
[13:27] <util> util
[13:31]  * Sidewinder1 Pours a cup, for BluesKaj 
[13:32]  * BluesKaj gulps
[13:32] <Sidewinder1> Mornin' m00se !
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> 2.30pm here
[13:33] <Si2100> 1:33pm
[13:34] <Sidewinder1> 08:34.. :D
[13:34] <Tech-1> beer30 here
[13:34] <maxwelltsai1987> hi
[13:34] <maxwelltsai1987> I need help!
[13:34] <Si2100> wuth
[13:35] <maxwelltsai1987> wuth?
[13:35] <maxwelltsai1987> what does that mean?
[13:35] <Tech-1> ask
[13:35] <Si2100> with
[13:35] <BluesKaj> !help | maxwelltsai1987
[13:35] <Si2100> whats the problem ?
[13:36] <maxwelltsai1987> I have too less space on my Ubuntu disk on my mac and I need to delete the Ubuntu partion. How do I do that?
[13:36] <Si2100> use Disk Utility in OS X
[13:36] <Si2100> and delete the partition
[13:36] <Si2100> and then
[13:37] <Si2100> then, either resize it orr add to back to the OS X partition
[13:37] <Si2100> brb
[13:38] <maxwelltsai1987> let me try
[13:38] <maxwelltsai1987> but it gives me a grey "disk0s1"?
[13:39] <maxwelltsai1987> What do I do?
[13:40] <mamece2> please i need some help with the xorg.conf file
[13:41] <maxwelltsai1987> I have too less space on my Ubuntu disk on my mac and I need to delete the Ubuntu partion. How do I do that?
[13:42] <BluesKaj> !patience | maxwelltsai1987
[13:42] <maxwelltsai1987> ok.
[13:42] <maxwelltsai1987> Thanks for the tips!
[13:43] <sandertje> hi guys... i once installed something by compiling it (OpenFTD), but since that service is now banned in my country, I'd like to uninstall it. How do I uninstall something that's not a package?
[13:44] <maxwelltsai1987> I have too less space on my Ubuntu disk on my mac and I need to delete the Ubuntu partion. How do I do that?
[13:44] <jrib> sandertje: read its documentation
[13:44] <sandertje> jrib: there's no manual page for it
[13:44] <jrib> sandertje: software has no documentation?  (not necessarily man page)
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> sandertje  in Synaptic, find 'installed (manual)'
[13:45] <Si2100> bck
[13:46] <arjun> how to enable facebook video chat on ubuntu 10.10
[13:46] <Si2100> wine ?
[13:47] <matrixiumn> hello
[13:47] <robot__> does anyone know of a way to boot ubuntu on osx like wubi does for windows?
[13:47] <arjun> how to mate ubuntu i0.10 boot faster
[13:47] <maxwelltsai1987> I have too less space on my Ubuntu disk on my mac and I need to delete the Ubuntu partion. How do I do that?
[13:48] <matrixiumn> byebye
[13:49] <robot__> does anyone know of a way to boot ubuntu on osx like wubi does for windows?
[13:49] <maxwelltsai1987> hello
[13:49] <maxwelltsai1987> I have too less space on my Ubuntu disk on my mac and I need to delete the Ubuntu partion. How do I do that?
[13:51] <matrixiumn> *bye
[13:52] <mamece2> can somebody help me with tridetn tgui 9440?
[13:53] <pangolin> Did you md5sum the iso?
[13:54] <x0x7f> did just md5sum the iso now. it is correct.
[13:54] <praic> 有会中文的没！！！
[13:54] <pangolin> !cn
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> !cn| praic
[13:55] <praic> thank u
[13:55] <tootac> hi guys, I am having a problem with the new modem I bought. When I connect to 3g network, it connects and the loses connection in about 5 minutes. The only solution to that is to take out the modem and put it back.
[13:56] <maxwelltsai1987> I have too less space on my Ubuntu disk on my mac and I need to delete the Ubuntu partion. How do I do that?
[13:57] <maxwelltsai1987> I need Ubottu's help!
[13:57] <maxwelltsai1987> I have too less space on my Ubuntu disk on my mac and I need to delete the Ubuntu partion. How do I do that?
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> !repeat| maxwelltsai1987
[13:57] <erkan^> hello, i cannot change --> picpaste.com/pics/Schermafdruk_op_2011-12-04_14_46_27-CQrczm71.1323006588.png . can someone help me?
[13:57] <maxwelltsai1987> I have too less space on my Ubuntu disk on my mac and I need to delete the Ubuntu partion. How do I do that?
[13:57] <BluesKaj> !ubottu | maxwelltsai1987
[13:58] <maxwelltsai1987> Hey Ubottu, how can I contact Ubuntu's email service?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> maxwelltsai1987, ubottu is a bot !
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> maxwelltsai1987  ubottu is a bot, a machine, a piece of software
[13:59] <maxwelltsai1987> oh, then can BulesKaj and MonkeyDust help me?
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> not familiar with mac
[13:59] <maxwelltsai1987> *BluesKaj
[13:59] <maxwelltsai1987> I mean Ubuntu's email Service
[13:59] <maxwelltsai1987> Can you help me?
[14:00] <Ampelbein> maxwelltsai1987: What do you mean? Who do you want to contact?
[14:01] <maxwelltsai1987> Just the Support Guy or who do you think I should contact( you know these better than I do)
[14:01] <Ampelbein> maxwelltsai1987: Well, support is mainly through launchpad.
[14:01] <Ampelbein> !launchpad | maxwelltsai1987
[14:02] <mamece2> how can i create xorg.conf in CLI ?
[14:02] <maxwelltsai1987> is there any email I can send to ubuntu?
[14:02] <jrib> mamece2: use your favorite text editor?
[14:02] <mamece2> jrib: i mean only in CLI, nothing with GUI, im stuck in console
[14:03] <Reaksiyon> Facebook IRC Application : http://apps.facebook.com/sohbetbook/
[14:03] <mamece2> theres no gedit in lubuntu
[14:03] <auronandace> mamece2: nano to the rescue!
[14:03] <jrib> mamece2: yes, there are text editors that do not use a gui.  Like nano or vim.  But I would suggest instead just stating your real issue (why do you want to create an xorg.conf?) to the channel
[14:04] <maxwelltsai1987> Is there any email I can send to Ubuntu?
[14:04] <maxwelltsai1987> http://askubuntu.com/questions/85093/how-to-remove-ubuntu-from-mac
[14:04] <maxwelltsai1987> HELP!!!
[14:04] <jumbers> !repeat| maxwelltsai1987
[14:05] <mamece2> jrib: i have the trident problem. the screen is messed. so i have read in forums that i need to create the xorg.conf file. leafpad command display "cant open the visor"
[14:05] <Sidewinder1> Am I still me? Or am I a guest?
[14:05] <Sidewinder1> Good.
[14:05] <maxwelltsai1987> Can Linux From Scratch write an Linux Operating System?
[14:06] <mamece2> excellent-> nano
[14:06] <maxwelltsai1987> Can Linux From Scratch write an Linux Operating System?
[14:07] <mamece2> wow this is going to be heavy.. write the entire xorg.conf
[14:07] <tootac> whois adiz
[14:08] <jrib> mamece2: Xorg -configure will generate some sort of minimal xorg.conf
[14:08] <llutz_> mamece2: quit X, "sudo Xorg -configure" will write you a xorg.conf.new, edit this (easier than to write a complete new one)
[14:08] <Guest14859> hi
[14:09] <mamece2> ok ill try
[14:10] <battye> hi, could someone please help me? I am trying to connect to wi-fi using the command line. I am using ubuntu
[14:10] <mamece2> llutz_: i have this error "fatal server error, server is already active" its opened in the ctrl+alt +F7. how can i kill it?
[14:10] <Sidewinder1> Martinp23, Thanks for the ride! :D
[14:10] <llutz_> mamece2: sudo service liightdm stop
[14:11] <llutz_> mamece2: sudo service lightdm stop
[14:11] <Martinp23> hehe :)
[14:11] <mamece2> llutz_: thats not the service. i am using lubuntu
[14:11] <llutz_> mamece2: then stop whatever dm you run
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> battye  explore the commands iwlist and iwconfig
[14:12] <llutz_> mamece2: or: sudo pkill X
[14:12] <battye> MonkeyDust, I've already done that. The network is recognised through iwlist
[14:13] <mamece2> llutz_: i got back to the messed screen, i better start this session only as root, right?
[14:13] <battye> It's not a problem of signal strength as I can access it on my phone which is right next to the computer
[14:13] <alegabry> ciao a tutti
[14:13] <alegabry> !list
[14:13] <Sidewinder1> !it | alegabry
[14:14] <theduck> my terminal was refusing to let me use sudo, so i restarted my machine. on startup it hangs on 'stopping system v runlevel compatibility"
[14:15] <davide> ciao
[14:16] <Sidewinder1> !nickspam | questions
[14:16] <mamece2> llutz_:  X -configure shows this: fatal server error: could not create lock file in /temp/.tX0-lock
[14:16] <Sidewinder1> ;)
[14:16] <davide> list!
[14:17] <brian> #bash
[14:17] <Sidewinder1> lost!
[14:17] <llutz_> mamece2: read again what i initially wrote
[14:17] <mamece2> lust!
[14:18] <x0x7f> is there a way to generate an encrypted root with the normal ubuntu installer, or does one have to use the alternate CD?
[14:18] <bekks> You have to use the alternate cd.
[14:19] <theduck> my startup hangs at stopping system v runlevel compatibility
[14:19] <mamece2> llutz_: i did recovery mode and im now in root, theres no dm opened
[14:20] <llutz_> mamece2:  "sudo Xorg -configure"
[14:20] <mamece2> llutz_: the same error "could not create lockl file in ... "
[14:24] <emery> How stable is the 12 release on a scale 1 - 10
[14:24] <xangua> !pangolin | emery
[14:24] <compdoc> 12 release?
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> emery  not stable, it's in alpha
[14:24] <jrib> emery: releases are stable by definition but there is no such thing as release 12
[14:24] <oCean> emery: it's still alpha, use #ubuntu+1 for discussion/support
[14:24] <emery> jrib: Don't be so pedantic.
[14:25] <auronandace> emery: read the rules
[14:25] <jrib> emery: ask a well-defined question or you will get a wide range of answers.  I'm trying to help you out.  If you try to make your question well-defined you will answer it yourself usually
[14:25] <compdoc> kinda hard to judge the stability of something thats not released
[14:25] <emery> jrib: No you're not you're just being pedantic/sarcastic.
[14:26] <jrib> emery: ok.
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> emery  kindly join #ubuntu+1
[14:26] <mamece2> jrib: i have this problem, when i do "sudo Xorg -configure" i get "fatal server error: could not create lock file in /temp/.tX0-lock
[14:27] <theduck> jrib: i cant start up it gets stuck at stopping system V runlevel compatibility
[14:28] <llutz_> mamece2: lsb_release -sc
[14:29] <jrib> theduck: what did you during your last working ubuntu session?
[14:30] <hirogen> is bit defender still badass even you can run it on windows builds lol, running of a usb stick ?
[14:30] <Whitecoyote> Hi, I'm willing to install a driver for my wifi card in order to use it in monitor mode. This driver seems to need the use of the add_pkg command (BSD ?) How can I do it ?
[14:31] <Whitecoyote> Here's the source : http://resin.csoft.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?section=4&topic=urtwn
[14:32] <mamece2> llutz_: oneiric
[14:32] <theduck> jrib: i was working on some robotics homework, chatting, and installed a minecraft mod
[14:33] <mamece2> llutz_: why i cant create the file in tmp if i have permission? drwxrwxrwt ?
[14:33] <jrib> theduck: can you boot into recovery mode? (hold shift during boot to show grub menu)
[14:33] <llutz_> mamece2: no idea then, works on maverick as expected. wonder why it tries to use /temp/... which won't exist
[14:33] <mamece2> llutz_: i meant /tmp/
[14:34] <theduck> jrib: it gets to the recovery menu where it asks me about resume, fsck, and root. I hit resume and it gets stuck at the same point
[14:34] <llutz_> mamece2: ah ok, root:root 1777 it should be
[14:34] <jrib> theduck: see if you can get a root shell
[14:34] <theduck> jrib: yes i can
[14:34] <mamece2> llutz_: its root root 4096
[14:35] <jrib> theduck: when it gets stuck during normal boot, can you get to a tty by hitting ctrl-alt-f1?
[14:35] <llutz_> mamece2: 4096 is the size, 1777 permissions (drwxrwxrwt)
[14:35] <theduck> jrib: yes
[14:35] <llutz_> mamece2: as i said, i don't know why that fails. maybe some oneiric-news
[14:36] <jrib> theduck: ok, so it's likely just an issue with X.  What version of ubuntu?
[14:36] <theduck> jrib: 11.10
[14:36] <jrib> theduck: check if lightdm is running (ps -ef | grep lightdm)
[14:40] <theduck> jrib: how do i tell? the output is 2114 1999 0 22:38 tty1    00:00:00 grep --color=auto lightdm (lightdm is in red)
[14:40] <mamece2> only jrib  can help me
[14:40] <jrib> theduck: it's not :)  Try: sudo service lightdm start
[14:40] <jrib> mamece2: did your error actually say "temp" or was that a typo on your part?
[14:41] <mamece2> jrib: it was a typo. it says /tmp/
[14:41] <jrib> mamece2: can you pastebin the error in its entirety?
[14:41] <jrib> !pastebinit | mamece2
[14:41] <mamece2> jrib: i think i cant, i am testing all in an old pc without network
[14:42] <jrib> mamece2: ok
[14:42] <jrib> mamece2: can you write to /tmp?
[14:43] <mamece2> jrib: can i try with nano?
[14:43] <jrib> mamece2: sure, try: nano /tmp/mamece2test
[14:43] <TheTrash> Does anyone know what the correct procedure is to install Ubuntu on a Macbook 2011? I'm getting the "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" error, tried http://b3ns.com/2011/08/ubuntu-11-04-macbook-pro-unable-to-find-a-medium-containing-a-live-file-system/ but still get the same error, even with the USB stick connected. The light on the USB drive is on but seems to go off at a crucial point.
[14:44] <mamece2> jrib: error ! i try to save in nano and it says its read only
[14:44] <kaushik_> hi
[14:44] <mamece2> jrib: but i did chmod 1777 /tmp/
[14:44] <kaushik_> any one to chat
[14:44] <llutz_> mamece2: "mount"  is your / mounted ro?
[14:44] <jrib> mamece2: can you pastebin the line in the output of « mount » corresponding to the partition /tmp is on?
[14:44] <jrib> or that :)
[14:45] <BluesKaj> !chat | kaushik_
[14:45] <kaushik_> how can i install flash player
[14:45] <emery> apt-cache search flash
[14:45] <emery> take your pick kaushik_
[14:45] <jrib> !flash | kaushik_
[14:45] <emery> Flash is in the repos
[14:46] <TheTrash> Is there an Ubuntu mac channel?
[14:46] <emery> PPC ?
[14:46] <notitu> jrib: my browser crashed
[14:46] <mamece2> jrib: llutz_  i did mount but.. there a lot of info,. i dont see any /tmp/ there
[14:46] <TheTrash> Intel
[14:46] <llutz_> mamece2: look for /
[14:46] <Gentoo64> TheTrash, its here
[14:46] <emery> TheTrash: Idk, I imagine it works pretty similar to PC's with Intel
[14:47] <mamece2> llutz_: its not mounted
[14:47] <TheTrash> It doesn't, so I'd like to find some people who have actually succeeded in installing it on a 2011 model.
[14:47] <llutz_> mamece2: / has to be mounted, its your root-fs
[14:47] <emery> TheTrash: Google install ubuntu on mac ?
[14:47] <TheTrash> emery: I asked a specific question.
[14:47] <llutz_> mamece2: likely first line of "mount" output
[14:47] <emery> Then be more specific in your search TheTrash
[14:48] <emery> I've found plenty of results on the issue.
[14:48] <TheTrash> emery: as have I, but the solution doesn't seem to work.
[14:48] <mamece2> llutz_: /dev/sda1 on / type ext4
[14:48] <emery> TheTrash: What is the actual problem
[14:48] <vg> hi
[14:48] <TheTrash> emery: I'm getting the "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" error, tried http://b3ns.com/2011/08/ubuntu-11-04-macbook-pro-unable-to-find-a-medium-containing-a-live-file-system/ but still get the same error, even with the USB stick connected. The light on the USB drive is on but seems to go off at a crucial point.
[14:48] <vg> somebody help me to update java to 6.29 and instal minecraft?
[14:49] <llutz_> mamece2: nothing after "ext4"?
[14:49] <jrib> !mac | TheTrash
[14:49] <emery> TheTrash: Have you tried formatting the USB and trying again, are you using unetboot ?
[14:49] <jrib> TheTrash: what exactly fails?
[14:49] <mamece2> llutz_: yes this: (rw, errors=remount-ro, commit=0)
[14:49] <emery> jrib: Do you always spam the channel with your half assed answers ?
[14:49] <TheTrash> jrib: I get to the loader with the dots on the installer, then I get the unable to find a medium error (from busybox).
[14:50] <emery> TheTrash: Format USB and use Unetbootin, you can get it for Mac
[14:50] <xangua> emery: please drop that attitude
[14:50] <Gentoo64> emery, srop trying to troll
[14:50] <emery> xangua: Well it's clearly obvious.
[14:50] <Gentoo64> boring
[14:50] <emery> I'm not trolling at all.
[14:50] <emery> Trot on.
[14:50] <praic> goodnight
[14:50] <xangua> there is no unetbootin for osx, but there are instructions to create a bootable usb on ubuntu.com emery TheTrash
[14:50] <Gentoo64> boring
[14:51] <emery> xangua: Clearly you havnt seen the unetbootin site
[14:51] <TheTrash> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1730355 this is talking about an unsupported Sata chipset for the CD drive.
[14:51] <gulzar> my DVD + RW is not working after blanking with brasero. K3B is showing error erasing. What to do?
[14:51] <melkor> Hello I am moving from evolution to thunderbird. Is there a way to get my old emails out of evolution, which is not installed anymore.
[14:51] <TheTrash> This USB drive I simply dd'ed, and it is not actually booting from the USB drive... the trick descibed in the link I posted earlier boots from CD but at some point switches to USB.
[14:51] <xangua> last time i saw, there wasn't, interesting emery
[14:51] <jrib> TheTrash: did you checksum the cd?  Are you using 64bit installer?
[14:52] <emery> xangua: http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/UNetbootin/563/unetbootin-mac-563.zip/download
[14:52] <emery> TheTrash: http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/UNetbootin/563/unetbootin-mac-563.zip/download use that.
[14:52] <TheTrash> Yes and yes.
[14:52] <compdoc> gulzar, doubtful brasero damaged the drive. try a different disc?
[14:52] <gulzar> melkor: if you have backup of evolution mails.. thunderbird can import them
[14:52] <theduck2> jrib: do you know any solution?
[14:52] <gulzar> compdoc: :(
[14:52] <TheTrash> I'll try unetbootin then, I've had issues with dd'ing images to usb before.
[14:52] <jrib> theduck2: what happened when you tried to start lightdm?
[14:53] <melkor> gulzar: I try and I get to Please select the type of file you would like to import w/out any options.
[14:53] <emery> TheTrash: Easiest way if you ask me, I've used it with Mac and it worked.
[14:53] <asdf_> jrib: it tells me no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
[14:53] <theduck2> jrib: it tells me no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
[14:53] <gulzar> melkor: you use imap or pop?
[14:53] <jrib> theduck2: can you type exactly what it says?
[14:54] <TheTrash> What, this machine has no CD eject button? How preposterous
[14:54] <theduck2> sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: permission denied    newline    sudo: no valied sudoers sources found, quitting
[14:54] <emery> TheTrash: Welcome to Apple ;)
[14:54] <melkor> gulzar: pop. I am checking an add-on now.
[14:55] <gulzar> melkor: yup. Thunderbird is asking for file type and for the app. Search for addon.
[14:55] <jrib> theduck2: i have to go now, good luck
[14:55] <theduck2> jrib: aight thanks for the hlep
[14:56] <mamece2> jrib: so , im root and i cant write in the X11 folder... help
[14:56] <BluesKaj> theduck2, sudo visudo, in the terminal?
[14:56] <emery> mamece2: What's up ?
[14:57] <emery> mamece2: Are you added to sudoers file ?
[14:57] <mamece2> emery: i have so many problem, basically i have a messed up screen, so i got to cli
[14:57] <emery> You should be
[14:57] <cashface_> hey
[14:57] <emery> mamece2: do, Xorg -configure
[14:57] <theduck2> BluesKaj: wait what?
[14:57] <mamece2> emery: trying to configure a xorg.conf file for my trident video card, (old pc)
[14:57] <emery> Ok do what i said above ^
[14:58] <mamece2> emery: when i do Xorg -configure i have this "fatal server error: could not create lock file in /tmp/.tX0-lock"
[14:58] <BluesKaj> theduck2, try , sudo visudo . in the terminal to open the sudoers file for editing
[14:58] <emery> mamece2: try sudo Xorg -configure ... also tell me the Xorg error message
[14:58] <theduck2> BluesKaj: doesnt work same error
[14:59] <emery> mamece2: What happens when you do startx ?
[14:59] <mamece2> emery: a long list of errors, basically, unable to connect to X server. i am using lubuntu
[15:00] <emery> mamece2: do startx &> startx.txt ... and upload if you can with some pastebin app
[15:00] <mamece2> emery: also this, when it try to mktemp its unable cuz is read only
[15:01] <emery> mamece2: Have have you managed that ? Have you been editing random files ?
[15:01] <llutz_> mamece2: sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[15:01] <mamece2> emery: i have the old pc besides me. its got no network connection, and i only have CLI as root
[15:01] <emery> mamece2: To be honest, ubuntu isnt the best choice for something that old
[15:02] <mamece2> emery: its lubuntu, and its not so old, its a intel P4
[15:02] <emery> mamece2: What are you going to be using the PC for ?
[15:02] <emery> P4 is old, lol.
[15:02] <mamece2> emery: basically music
[15:02] <Gentoo64> p4 wil run lubuntu fine
[15:02] <BluesKaj> theduck2, alt+f2,  gksudo gedit /etc/sudoers , (or whatever the current default text editor is)
[15:02] <emery> mamece2: Ah media server
[15:03] <emery> mamece2: Go for a Gentoo base install, if you're just using CLI
[15:03] <emery> mamece2: It's not worth using ubuntu for cli, it drags all sorts of rubbish from the repos
[15:03] <mamece2> Gentoo64: can u help with my messed up screen, its a trident video card
[15:04] <Gentoo64> no idea about that card :s
[15:04] <mamece2> emery: im using CLI cuz its the only thing i can get right to the screen, my problem is with the video card
[15:04] <theduck2> BluesKaj: (gksudo:2411): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[15:04] <emery> mamece2: Just do a fresh install man, you've clearly buggered it up good
[15:04] <mamece2> its a fresh install, i put the HD in another Pc and it runs smooth
[15:05] <emery> Did you install lubuntu on another machine then move over the HD ?
[15:05] <mamece2> emery: yes
[15:05] <emery> Then there's you're problem
[15:05] <emery> It's configured to the other machine, xorg.
[15:06] <emery> Install it on that machine.
[15:06] <BluesKaj> theduck2, are you on a TTY ?
[15:06] <mamece2> Gentoo64: emery: how can i change the priviledges to the X11 folder to be rw
[15:06] <theduck2> bluesKaj yes
[15:07] <santanaSanta> hi everyone, i have a question about Launchpad
[15:07] <emery> mamece2: They should be if you use Sudo
[15:07] <mamece2> emery: they are not, iono why
[15:08] <BluesKaj> theduck2,  ok , sudo nano /etc/sudoers
[15:08] <emery> mamece2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo read that.
[15:08] <santanaSanta> Do any alternatives to Launchpad exist? Or is LP the only way to create an apt package?
[15:08] <Gentoo64> mamece2, what error do you get?
[15:08] <theduck2> blueskaj same error about permission denied to /etc/sudoers
[15:08] <mamece2> Gentoo64: i cant write to the X11, i will write the freakin xorg.conf file by myself
[15:09] <emery> mamece2: As i said, read the sudo docs
[15:09] <Gentoo64> what are you trying to write?
[15:09] <mamece2> Gentoo64: ive got drwxr-xr-x in the X11 folder
[15:09] <pangolin> santanaSanta: the packages are debian packages ( .deb ) you may want to ask in #ubuntu-packaging for some more info
[15:09] <mamece2> Gentoo64: i want to write with nano the xorg.conf file
[15:09]  * x0x7f found out it was a pilot error, after all. after booting with a debian netinst image, everything works just fine. 
[15:09] <emery> pangolin: you want to install .deb?
[15:09] <pangolin> emery: no.
[15:09] <Gentoo64> mamece2, not tried Xorg -configure?
[15:10] <santanaSanta> pangolin: thanks. In order to have deb packages integrated with apt-get, i need Launchpad though ... is that correct?
[15:10] <emery> Gentoo64: Been through this.
[15:10] <llutz_> mamece2: "whoami" says what?
[15:10] <mamece2> Gentoo64: *sigh* i ve tried it.. i dont have priviledges to writein temp . even when i did a chmod 1777 to it
[15:10] <mamece2> llutz_: root
[15:10] <pangolin> santanaSanta: I think what you want is info on creating PPA's which #ubuntu packaging should be able to help with also
[15:11] <emery> mamece2: READ THE SUDO PAGE
[15:11] <pangolin> err #ubuntu-packaging that is
[15:11] <llutz_> mamece2: you definetly messed up your system.
[15:11] <santanaSanta> pangolin: ok i think your right ... I'll go there, one more question though. Is launchpad the only place I can host a PPA? can I have one outside of launchpad?
[15:11] <mamece2> emery: yeah i will read the entire page for 1 hour to get nothing
[15:11] <pangolin> santanaSanta: yes you can
[15:11] <Gentoo64> mamece2, you could reinstall in less time lol
[15:11] <emery> mamece2: No you'll read the page to fix you're sudo problem
[15:12] <santanaSanta> pangolin: ok, find more in #ubuntu-packaging right? heh
[15:12] <pangolin> yup :)
[15:12] <mamece2> Gentoo64: thing is.. the usb port in the old pc seems to not be workind, and YES ive enabled them in the BIOS
[15:12] <emery> mamece2: If you refuse to help yourself from reading, then don't bother asking for help. That page is the solution to your root problem.
[15:12] <Gentoo64> pretty hard for me to diagnose tbh
[15:13] <santanaSanta> pangolin: thanks, have a great weekend
[15:13] <pangolin> santanaSanta: same to you.
[15:15] <Gentoo64> mamece2, why do you need ther usb ports for this btw?
[15:15] <BluesKaj> theduck2, I'm not well versed in permissions and workarounds to solve them , so I have to pass you to ppl who know how ...ok guys we need some help here.
[15:15] <ikonia> BluesKaj: what's up ?
[15:16] <theduck2> ikonia on startup my computer gets stuck on stopping system V runlevel compatibility, and in tty i have no sudo permissions
[15:16] <ikonia> theduck2: can you expand upon this
[15:16] <mamece2> Gentoo64: to reinstall lubuntu. i did a recoverymode and then remount, now im using dpkg. lets wait while i READ THE SUDO PAGE
[15:16] <ikonia> theduck2: eg: did it ever work, what happened to stop it working, what's the exact error,
[15:16] <Gentoo64> mamece2, havent you got a cd drive?
[15:17] <mamece2> Gentoo64: i dont have a blank CD :/
[15:17] <BluesKaj> ikonia, theduck2,  needs to solve his permissions problem with sudoers and he's currently logged on to a TTY
[15:17] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[15:17] <emery> mamece2: Don't cry because you have to actually READ something, and someone isnt guiding you all the way through it
[15:17] <theduck2> ikonia when i type sudo it tells me sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: permission denied    sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
[15:17] <ikonia> theduck2: ok, has this machine ever worked, if so, what happened/what point did this problem start ?
[15:18] <theduck2> ikonia yes it was working about an hour ago, then i tried to use sudo in the terminal, this error showed up, so i restarted. hasn't worked since. this machine has been working for almost a month now
[15:18] <emery> theduck2: sudo nano /etc/sudoers ?
[15:18] <ikonia> theduck2: ok, ls -la /etc/sudoers please.
[15:18] <theduck2> emery: doesnt work, same error from sudo
[15:18] <emery> theduck2: interesting, so you're not added to sudoers?
[15:19] <theduck2> emery apparently not
[15:19] <ikonia> emery: please think it through, he's just said sudo isn't working, so saying "use sudo" isn't a great idea
[15:19] <ikonia> theduck2: ok, ls -la /etc/sudoers please.
[15:19] <emery> theduck2: You COULD add a root account
[15:19] <ikonia> theduck2: I suggest you ignore what emery is saying
[15:19] <emery> ikonia: Don't be so pathetic.
[15:19] <theduck2> ikonia -r--r----- 1 root root 574 2011-09-12 03:09 /ETC/SUDOERS
[15:19] <ikonia> theduck2: is it in capital letters, or have you just changed that ?
[15:19] <emery> theduck2:  add a root account, edit the file. and remove the root account.
[15:20] <theduck2> ikonia no my bad the caps log tripped on me
[15:20] <theduck2> *ikonia lock
[15:20] <ikonia> theduck2: I'll leave you to emery good luck
[15:20] <emery> You think because you add a root account to ubuntu it's going to implode ?
[15:20] <emery> Root accounds are easily added and removed, it's a quick easy fix.
[15:20] <pangolin> emery: Please don't suggest to add a root account unless you plan on being here 24/7 to help them.
[15:21] <emery> Well i wouldnt need to, it can be created and removed in seconds
[15:21] <theduck2> emery ok im in the file from a root account i made earlier. how do i edit it to give me sudo perms?
[15:22] <emery> theduck2: login as root, and edit the file, then remove the account ( to save ubuntu users crying )
[15:22] <kla> :)
[15:22] <theduck2> emery ok but like what do i do in the file; what do i change in it
[15:22] <ikonia> theduck2: I don't know if you saw the error earlier 15:08 < theduck2> blueskaj same error about permission denied to /etc/sudoers
[15:22] <emery> theduck2: you need to add yourself to sudoers
[15:23] <ikonia> no you don't
[15:23] <ikonia> ahh sorry, I'll stop helping
[15:23] <emery> theduck2: You may also need to chmod the file
[15:23] <emery> theduck2: I'm not quite sure what's going on with your permissions
[15:23] <Jigal> hello, i am running the latest version of ubuntu. I am opening shlash dot type "terminal" but it doesn't find it. How can i get to the terminal?
[15:23] <emery> Jigal: #ubuntu+1
[15:23] <theduck2> emery ok so what do i write in the file to add myself?
[15:23] <jutnux> Jigal, Control+Alt+T
[15:23] <emery> theduck2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[15:24] <emery> theduck2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers even
[15:24] <Jigal> jutnux, doesn't do anything
[15:24] <Jigal> emery, ??
[15:24] <jutnux> Jigal, search for it then.
[15:24] <kla> Jigal, Alt+f2 ?
[15:24] <jutnux> Kla: Alt+F2 runs a command only.
[15:25] <Jigal> oh control+ALT+2 did work
[15:25] <Jigal> tnx all
[15:25] <kla> haha ok y/w :)
[15:26] <emery> Jigal: what ?
[15:27] <Gentoo64> "latest ubuntu" doesnt always mean aphas or betas
[15:28] <compdoc> it never means alphas or betas to me
[15:30] <Mr_EE1> hello guys
[15:31] <Mr_EE1> what is the application to watch tv on ubuntu11.10
[15:31] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: do you have a TV card ?
[15:31] <Mr_EE1> or the process to install the drivers for tv card
[15:31] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: do you have a TV card ?
[15:32] <Mr_EE1> ikonia: yeah i do
[15:32] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: first thing to do is check on the hardware compatability lists for Linux if your card is supported under linux
[15:32] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: that will save you a lot of time
[15:32] <Mr_EE1> ikonia: how do i do that
[15:33] <Mr_EE1> ikonia: i am new on ubuntu
[15:33] <solo> Hi, am new to Ubuntu ( about 3hours) I would appreciate help in finding software that makes and burns .iso's
[15:33] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: there are numerous hardware compatability lists on the web, that state linux compatability and if so what versions of software they need to be compatible with
[15:33] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: check out your card and see if it is listed and what it needs
[15:33] <TheTrash> emery: hm, lost a few hours.. then read this: "UNetbootin for Mac OS X can be used to automate the process of extracting the Ubuntu ISO file to USB, and making the USB drive bootable. The resulting USB drive, however, can be booted on PCs only. If attempting to make a USB drive that can be booted from a Mac, follow the instructions below."
[15:33] <ikonia> !hcl | Mr_EE1
[15:33] <Gentoo64> solo, it should come with brasero
[15:33] <BluesKaj> emery, sending a guy to website when hecan't open X isn't very helpful.. theduck2 is at aTTY
[15:33] <xangua> solo: Brasero comes as default
[15:34] <emery> BluesKaj: he asked for help with sudo.
[15:34] <android_> hi
[15:34] <emery> BluesKaj: and that's what links is for.
[15:34] <theduck2> blueskaj naww im on another computer, but i dont really get how this is sposed to help me cuz it makes little sense to me
[15:34] <android_> how can I install Graphic Nvidia with Ubuntu
[15:34] <android_> Thank U
[15:34] <ikonia> !nvidia | android_
[15:35] <melkor> It seems like in banshee if I 'create a playlist' then I could add to playlist.
[15:35] <solo> Yes I have that but could not find any preferences to save it as an .iso, or does it ask which dvd drive to burn to and like nero (and others) let you choose an image maker?
[15:35] <android_> oh thank u ubottu
[15:35] <Mr_EE1> ikonia: how do i check my model
[15:35] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: you bought it, do you not know what model you bought ?
[15:35] <Mr_EE1> ikonia: i mean in a terminal
[15:35] <BluesKaj> theduck2,  so is this an attempt at a clean install ?
[15:35] <ikonia> clean install.....crazy
[15:36] <theduck2> blueskaj no this is a 1 month old installation
[15:36] <solo> yes I have that, but could not see any preferences to have it make an image?
[15:37] <melki> Hi, can someone plz tell me how to configure & copy codecs between two computers?
[15:37] <ikonia> melki: the best way to do it, is to install the codecs from the ubuntu repos on both computers
[15:37] <SugarTiger> Running Oneiric. Asus monitor linited to 1024. any tips on what I can do ? Im on a lenovo SL300
[15:38] <melkor> Is here a way to add a directory of songs to a play list in banshee.
[15:38] <BluesKaj> theduck2, so suddenly just lost permissions to login and no X server?
[15:39] <theduck2> basically
[15:39] <vice>  hello! i don´t want to see mounted volumes on my desktop. how can i change that?
[15:39] <melki> ikonia, but I have already installed them on one of them. Isn't there another way?
[15:40] <theadmin> vice: Which desktop are you running?
[15:40] <ikonia> melki: that is the best way,
[15:40] <BluesKaj> ikonia, just ignore emery's comments and attitude ...your help is needed here.
[15:40] <vice> gnome 2
[15:40] <ikonia> BluesKaj: I'm actually about to leave in 30 seconds
[15:40] <ikonia> I'll be back shortly though
[15:40] <BluesKaj> oh , bummer , ikonia
[15:40] <BluesKaj> ok good
[15:41] <theadmin> vice: Nice :D Okay, start "gconf-editor" from a terminal, navigate to /apps/natuilus/desktop and set "voulmes_visible" to false.
[15:42] <vice> thank u very much theadmin
[15:42] <lordzett> lo ppl
[15:42] <theadmin> vice: No problem.
[15:42] <lordzett> gotr a q
[15:43] <lordzett> cant get the gfx card working correct on the laptop of a frend
[15:43] <n0idx80> can someone tell me what to use for a battery monitor with linux mint
[15:43] <escott> !mint | n0idx80
[15:43] <n0idx80> ubottu: yeah, I am +o and there is no one else there, but thanks
[15:44] <lordzett> its a laptop with a intel gfxcard
[15:44] <n0idx80> can someone tell me a good battery  status monitor app for gnome
[15:44] <vice> theadmin: btw, i run gdm3 with compiz and so on, so its more like gnome2...
[15:44] <theadmin> vice: I see :D
[15:44] <vice> u see?
[15:44] <android_> Nice
[15:44] <melkor> Wow banshee is so bad at doing playlists.
[15:45] <escott> n0idx80, you need to ask in the mint channel. their version of gnome is different from ours
[15:45] <kaushik_> hi any one to chat
[15:45] <vice> theadmin: u see?
[15:45] <Gentoo64> kaushik_, asl
[15:45] <n0idx80> melkor: is something better than banshe at displaying radio streams
[15:45] <questions> in oneric i cannot see the way to get your screen to lock after, say, 2 1/2 hours, only 1 hour ?
[15:45] <android_> by the way, how to change ubuntu style
[15:45] <Incarus6> melkor, rythmbox is the new default player in ubuntu 12.04
[15:45] <n0idx80> escott: I was +o there, no one else :(
[15:45] <android_> Thank U
[15:46] <n0idx80> escott: different implemetation of gnome then?
[15:46] <melkor> n0idx80: I just wanted to add a song to a play list, it might be good at other things.
[15:46] <n0idx80> melkor: not really ;)
[15:46] <melkor> Incarus6: I might switch to it.
[15:46] <nairb> n0idx80 - try exaile
[15:46] <krishj> rythmbox development is stalling
[15:46] <melkor> There is really a disconnect between me and music players. Maybe if I understood what they expected of me I could use them better.
[15:46] <kaushik_> any form india
[15:47] <sdsdsd> advanced_text_area = new AdvancedTextArea(irc_applet, channel_name, irc_applet, text_canvas, this, 0, 10, IRCApplet.width - 256 + 24 , IRCApplet.height - 188, 22 );
[15:47] <n0idx80> nairb: for radio stream or battery monitor status, I asked two questions =)
[15:47] <kaushik_> any one form india
[15:47] <Incarus6> melkor, I like ROSA media player from Mandriva, installed it in Ubuntu
[15:47] <kaushik_> any one form india
[15:47] <nairb> radio stream
[15:47] <kaushik_> any one form india
[15:47] <sdsdsd> sry
[15:47] <Gentoo64> kaushik_, stop spamming crap
[15:47] <n0idx80> nairb: thx
[15:47] <kaushik_> any one form india
[15:47] <kaushik_> k
[15:47] <android_> How to install C++ in Ubuntu
[15:47] <melkor> kaushik_: there should be an ubuntu-ia ?
[15:47] <vanangamudi> @kaushik
[15:47] <Incarus6> !gcc | android_
[15:47] <melkor> android_: gcc & gpp
[15:48] <vanangamudi> @kaushik: i'm from india
[15:48] <kaushik_> thanks @melkor
[15:48] <nairb> n0idx80 - and there should be a battery monitor panel applet
[15:48] <android_> oh thank melkor
[15:48] <escott> n0idx80, their gnome-shell is completely different if you are running the most recent, and for gnome2 i dont have access to what applets they might have packaged. so in either case i cant answer the question
[15:48] <melkor> kaushik_: I don't know the two letters for india though it could be in or id or... something.
[15:49] <n0idx80> nairb: well, I am helping a friend use mint, his laptop died without warning, and the batt monitor has basically no options from control settings
[15:49] <xangua> !mint | n0idx80
[15:49] <krishj> kaushik: its ubuntu-in
[15:49] <n0idx80> nairb: thought there might be some added acpi needed or specific batter app
[15:49] <nairb> n0idx80 - which mint?
[15:49] <Azerthoth> n0idx80: you joined the channel on the wrong server
[15:49] <questions> can anyone quickly point me to a page on how to set the screen to lock after 2 1/2 hours instead of 1 hour?
[15:49] <android_> thank Incarus6 ubottu melkor
[15:49] <n0idx80> Azerthoth: ?
[15:49] <Azerthoth> n0idx80: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org   is well populated
[15:50] <questions> using the terminal or oneric/unity
[15:50] <n0idx80> Azerthoth: thnks
[15:50] <Incarus6> melkor, Canonical should choose this one as default player, imo: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Mandriva-s-New-Media-Player-for-Linux-237732.shtml
[15:50] <Azerthoth> n0idx80: this is irc.freenode.com
[15:50] <questions> or maybe suggest some search engine criteria
[15:50] <questions> for such a page
[15:50] <escott> questions, you might check if it can be modified in gconf-editor/dconf-editor/gsettings
[15:50] <nairb> n0idx80 - sudo apt-get install batmon
[15:51] <questions> escott, thank you
[15:52] <solo> thanks for your help Gentoo64 and zangua
[15:52] <android_> I have found big problem
[15:52] <android_> with ubuntu
[15:53] <nairb> questions - its in your screen saver/power manager settings
[15:53] <Gentoo64> android_, whats that then
[15:53] <lordzett> what to do with MIRAGE3+
[15:53] <android_> because Ubuntu can not install on msi GE620DX notebook
[15:53] <kio_http> Hi, I have a problem after doing an install of Kubuntu with the alternate disk on a laptop. During the install, I followed prompts to set up my Wireless network so that the installer could scan mirrors. Now when I start the installed system if my network is unavailable I get "waiting for network configuration" then it times out and boots in 30s. Also KDE network management is unable to configure wlan0 , it says "unmanaged". On anoth
[15:53] <kio_http> s
[15:54] <kio_http> If connection drops during usage, I am unable to use KDE's network widget to reconnect
[15:54] <android_> It doesnt support msi hardware
[15:54] <Zippa> Hi
[15:54] <android_> even try to use VM
[15:55] <Incarus6> kio_http, so why did you use the alternate disk when you need wlan drivers? please paste "rfkill list all"
[15:55] <kio_http> HELP!
[15:55] <nairb> kio_http - once booted, right-click on the network icon to change your network settings
[15:56] <kio_http> Incarus6: I don't need drivers, I set the SSID and passpharse during install, atheros drivers are built in
[15:56] <nairb> kio_http - then set the connection as "user controlled" rather than system controlled
[15:56] <kio_http> nairb: I use KDE
[15:56] <nairb> kio_http - i know
[15:57] <kio_http> Incarus6: output http://paste.kde.org/154742/
[15:58] <nairb> kio_http - you still want to change to user controlled, in kde you can alter the network settings by clicking on your network icon.
[15:58] <kio_http> Incarus6: KDE does not find any active connection, nothing is set, it only says "unmanaged" below WLAN
[15:58] <kio_http> nairb: I know that
[15:59] <kio_http> nairb: But there is no mention of any connection in it!
[15:59] <Incarus6> kio_http, can you try if wicd is working?
[16:00] <Germanaz0> hello everybody
[16:00] <JTWU> Hello all!
[16:00] <kio_http> Incarus6: Its not but wpa_supplicant is
[16:00] <Germanaz0> I'm on ubuntu 11.10, and I noticed that pulseaudio makes some conflict, and log me out of the session
[16:01] <Germanaz0> *log me out from the session
[16:01] <JTWU> rid pulseaudio it sucks
[16:01] <JTWU> alsa is better
[16:01] <Germanaz0> alsa is older than pulseaudo
[16:02] <BluesKaj> kio_http,  sudo dhclient wlan0 , then, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:03] <escott> Germanaz0, can you give the full error message. it seems unusual that something related to pulse could cause gnome-session to crash
[16:03] <BluesKaj> jtlap, unfortunately some soundcards require pulseaudio ..I have one of those
[16:03] <Germanaz0> I can see the error only when I logout and show me for a second a terminal
[16:03] <Germanaz0> how to get that error escott ?
[16:03] <BluesKaj> oops jtlap
[16:04] <Germanaz0> in which logs can I find that ?
[16:04] <jtlap> ??
[16:04] <escott> Germanaz0, you only see the error when you logout?
[16:04] <Germanaz0> yep, when the error happens
[16:05] <kio_http> BluesKaj: http://paste.kde.org/154754/
[16:05] <Germanaz0> I can see the terminal for a second, showing something about pulseaudio
[16:05] <BluesKaj> sorry the JTWU guy left , jtlap  ...the tab key makes mistakes sometimes :)
[16:05] <kio_http> BluesKaj: Incarus6  KDE network looks like this http://www.picamatic.com/view/8062006_snapshot1/
[16:05] <jtlap> no problem
[16:05] <escott> Germanaz0, you aren't being clear. if the error is the cause of an undesired logout, that would be a concern. if the error message is occuring after a requested logout, its likely not an issue
[16:05] <kio_http> BluesKaj: Command did that but it still says unmanaged
[16:06] <mrdeb> when will ubuntu work on tablets
[16:06] <Germanaz0> escott: I'm sure that the problem is pulseaudio
[16:06] <Germanaz0> but I dont know where to find the log
[16:06] <kio_http> BluesKaj: Incarus6 Any ideas?
[16:06] <BluesKaj> unmanaged means you need to enter your pw and username etc , kio_http
[16:06] <escott> Germanaz0, go back to the beginning and explain as clearly as possible what is concerning you
[16:07] <Incarus6> kio_http, that website isn't working. downornot.com reports it as down. can you reup?
[16:07] <kio_http> BluesKaj: But it does not detect any SSID's and fails to connect to anything set manually
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> mrdeb  http://www.grabi.org/install-ubuntu-linux-on-hp-touchpad-tablet-how-to-guide/
[16:07] <melkor> mrdeb: doesn't it already work on tablets?
[16:07] <BluesKaj> kio_http, that last url doen't load a page
[16:07] <BluesKaj> kio_http, which wifi chip ?
[16:07] <mrdeb> melkor how
[16:07] <mrdeb> wow
[16:08] <melkor> mrdeb: depends on the tablet.
[16:08] <kio_http> BluesKaj: ASUS network card with Atheros AR9285
[16:09] <kio_http> BluesKaj: On an identical notebook where I did not set the network details in alternate installer everything works
[16:09] <nairb> mrdeb - ubuntu can install on many tablets (pretty much any that debian works on)
[16:09] <Germanaz0> escott: the problem is that when I'm using the laptop, in a random time, the system log me out, when it log me out, I can see the terminal, for a second, before  it shows me the ligthdm to login, and can see some error in pulseaudio, but I don't know where to find that error, without log me out
[16:09] <melkor> Germanaz0: dmesg?
[16:10] <mrdeb> ok
[16:10] <melkor> Germanaz0: there is also a sys.log, which will show you your most recent errors.
[16:10] <mrdeb> so u can use terminal in it
[16:10] <mrdeb> ?
[16:10] <kio_http> BluesKaj: Clearly the alternate installer set it to some sort of autoconfigured thing that does not allow others to manage it
[16:10] <Germanaz0> lemme see melkor:D
[16:11] <escott> Germanaz0, I doubt that pulse is the issue. more likely is an issue with your video card, and X is crashing, and the error you are seeing about pulse is pulse responding to the sudden disappearance of your X server. look at Xorg.0.log.old and dmesg
[16:11] <melkor> kio_http: do you want to set up your wifi manually, or do you want the kde manager to handle it.
[16:11] <Germanaz0> lemme see escott
[16:11] <kio_http> Incarus6: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/269/snapshot2a.jpg/
[16:11] <Germanaz0> could I paste my dmesg output in pastie escott ?
[16:11] <kio_http> melkor: KDE to handle it , currently it is on auto
[16:12] <escott> Germanaz0, sure. and also send that old Xorg.0.log. if we are lucky something will show up there. what kind of video card do you have
[16:12] <semitones> how can I tell what application is preventing me from ejecting my usb drive?
[16:12] <Incarus6> kio_http, "lsmod" could be intersting too
[16:12] <escott> semitones, lsof on the usb drive folder might tell you
[16:12] <kio_http> melkor: KDE has a checkbox "system connection" which normally allows me to allow it to both autostart and be managed by kde
[16:13] <Germanaz0> ok
[16:13] <semitones> escott: umount suggested that it might, but I don't know how to make sense of the output -- could you help>
[16:13] <kio_http> Incarus6: http://paste.kde.org/154760/
[16:13] <escott> !paste | semitones paste it to us
[16:13] <Guest64318> Hi folks. How can I start the upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 if update-manager does NOT shows the upgrade button?
[16:14] <escott> !lts
[16:14] <kio_http> Incarus6: BluesKaj There's got to be another way than reinstall without setting it up!
[16:14] <BluesKaj> kio_http, sudo modprobe ath9k
[16:14] <escott> Guest64318, you are on an LTS release
[16:15] <Guest64318> escott: ..and I cannot upgrade?
[16:15] <kio_http> BluesKaj: Why, its already loaded and network is currently working fine except that it can't be managed by KDE
[16:15] <melkor> kio_http: what did you load the network with, dhclient?
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> Guest64318  use Terminal instead
[16:15] <kio_http> BluesKaj: If it restarts anything and cuts, then so does my IRC until reboot
[16:15] <semitones> escott: I was just able to umount it before running lsof this time (not sure what the problem was) but since this recurs fairly  regularly, I'll paste it here next time it happens
[16:15] <escott> Guest64318, see if this is applicable http://blog.zloether.com/2010/02/upgrade-ubuntu-lts-release-to-non-lts.html
[16:15] <norpan> How can i mount a volume with the terminal? I want it to mount at boot so i wantthe mount command to run at startup
[16:15] <melkor> kio_http: you most likely do not need to do the modprob if your wireless works at all.
[16:16] <BluesKaj> kio_http, wpa_supplicant must be managing if you're connected
[16:16] <escott> norpan, add the entry to your fstab
[16:16] <semitones> norpan: you probably want to take a look at fstab
[16:16] <escott> !fstab | norpan
[16:16] <melkor> BluesKaj: is he on wpa encryption?
[16:16] <Incarus6> kio_http, and "iwlist wlan0 scan" is working properly?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> melkor, looks that way
[16:16] <kio_http> BluesKaj: So if I blank its config file it will work normally
[16:16] <Germanaz0> escott: Xorg.0.log http://pastie.org/2964878, and the dmesg log http://pastie.org/2964888
[16:16] <norpan> escott: semitones last time i added the volume it just threw me an error message "could not mount"
[16:17] <norpan> Its an ntsf partition escott
[16:17] <kio_http> Incarus6: Yes iwlist scanning works
[16:17] <kio_http> melkor: Yes I am on WPA 2 PSK
[16:17] <BluesKaj> kio_http, did you setup wpa_supplicant , if so NM isn't needed , usually
[16:17] <melkor> kio_http: so how did you connect?
[16:18] <escott> Germanaz0, your dmesg is truncated i only see 35 seconds of logging there. can you send the Xorg.0.log.old instead of Xorg.0.log
[16:18] <Germanaz0> ok
[16:18] <kio_http> BluesKaj: melkor I set my network details when prompted by the ncurses alternate installer so that it could check mirrors, I never touched anything
[16:18] <escott> norpan, use "ntfs-3g" as the partition type
[16:19] <kio_http> BluesKaj: melkor  the installed system gives be "configuring network interfaces" when my SSID is unavailale delaying boot but everything worked on its own
[16:19] <norpan> escott: must i not reformat it then?
[16:19] <melkor> kio_http: so you booted up and it connected to the internet, but you cannot change settings/connection.
[16:19] <kio_http> melkor: Correct
[16:20] <kio_http> melkor: Also if it cuts or if I switch Wireless off then on it does not reconnect
[16:20] <Germanaz0> escott: http://pastie.org/2964914
[16:20] <llutz_> !ntfs |norpan
[16:21] <melkor> kio_http: it sounds like you need to know what service/program is managing your wifi, and stop it.
[16:21] <llutz_> !ntfs-3g |norpan
[16:21] <escott> norpan, the other thing about ntfs is that since it doesnt use unix permissions you have to specify the permission mask and owner. if the ntfs partition is corrupted (which can certainly happen with linux access) you need to boot windows and run chkdsk
[16:21] <melkor> kio_http: it is not wpa_supplicant because most programs, wickd nm are front ends to wpa_supplicant.
[16:21] <kio_http> melkor: Any ideas how to know that ... wpa_supplicant is running as root
[16:21] <escott> Germanaz0, if you look at the end of that file. at 429 seconds your X server segfaulted. and so X crashed. pulse is not responsible
[16:22] <Germanaz0> lemme see
[16:22] <melkor> kio_http: ps ax | grep nm or ps ax | grep network
[16:22] <kio_http> melkor: Incarus6 BluesKaj  Is this worth trying http://uksysadmin.wordpress.com/2011/10/14/upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-10-problem-waiting-for-network-configuration-then-black-screen-solution/
[16:22] <norpan> escott: that sounds really.. complex:P i have my movies at that partition so i just want ushare to start sharing as soon as i boot..now i must click the volume to mount it first then restart ushare lol
[16:22] <kio_http> as I get the same message
[16:22] <BluesKaj> melkor, I think hias wifi is already managed by wpa_supplicant , if he set up the connection details when he installed using the Alternate OS
[16:23] <Germanaz0> which line is escott ?
[16:23] <melkor> BluesKaj: yes they all use wpa_supplicant so far as I know. network manager will call wpa supplicant with it's own config file.
[16:23] <Germanaz0>  429.648] Segmentation fault at address 0x7f712ce1c010
[16:23] <Germanaz0> ahh that
[16:23] <dewcow> from the terminal, how can i check free disk space?
[16:23] <llutz_> dewcow: df -h
[16:23] <dewcow> llutz_: thanks
[16:24] <kio_http> melkor: grep: or: No such file or directory grep: ps: No such file or directory grep: ax: No such file or directory
[16:24] <melkor> kio_http: you don't have ps?
[16:24] <escott> norpan, you could add a udisks --mount command to your gnome-session-properties
[16:24] <norpan> escott: that sounds intresting
[16:24] <Germanaz0> and how can I solve that problem now ? :S
[16:24] <kio_http> melkor: Apparently no
[16:25] <_cb> #jquery
[16:25] <llutz_> kio_http:  those were 2 commands (left right of "or")
[16:25] <BluesKaj> melkor, if wpa_supplicant is already installed and managing the connection, why does it it need NM?
[16:25] <written> is it true that gitosis isn't developed anymore and one should use gitolite instead?
[16:26] <escott> Germanaz0, its a little surprising to see that on an arrandale. mine is stable as a rock. are you running the stock ubuntu kernel?
[16:26] <Germanaz0> yes
[16:26] <Germanaz0> I did not installed anything extra on this ubuntu release
[16:27] <Germanaz0> I have only the ubuntu repos
[16:27] <BluesKaj> melkor, I think he can remove NM and still have wpa_supplicant do the work
[16:27] <kio_http> BluesKaj: When I switch of the adapter then back on, it does not reconnect until reboot, also if I start the computer when the router is of I have to wait 30s extra on boot for timeout
[16:27] <Germanaz0> I like a lot the new 11.10 but this is my only problem on it
[16:27] <melkor> BluesKaj: nm will create a config file and run wpa_supplicant with the appropriate configuration.
[16:27] <norpan> escott: actually, could i not just make a "script" with two commands on the desktop? like "mount /dev/sda2 /media/Ljunggren" and "sudo serice restart ushare" ?
[16:27] <Germanaz0> escott: do you have 32 or 64 bits ?
[16:27] <norpan> escott: service*
[16:28] <escott> Germanaz0, 64
[16:28] <Germanaz0> like mine
[16:28] <escott> norpan, you cannot mount something that is not in fstab unless you are root. udisks is a helper application that will take care of the mounting for you. udisks --mount device
[16:29] <byp> hi one security question, if you type lastlog there are lot of system users like www-data mysql.... my FTP server uses local accounts, is it possible breakpoint?
[16:29] <melkor> kio_http: it could be when you boot up wpa_supplicant is started with a config file. That seems odd though.
[16:29] <norpan> escott: but i can mount it if i just "click" on the volume..?
[16:29] <norpan> escott: thats what im doing now..i just click it and i can explore the volume
[16:29] <merlin2049er> hi
[16:29] <escott> norpan, when you click on it nautilus runs a udisks command. you could run the same command yourself in gnome-session startup
[16:29] <melkor> kio_http: I suspect there is a service handling you network management. Can up su to root?
[16:29] <merlin2049er> hmm, i'm having a problem with samba
[16:30] <merlin2049er> seems to take forever to browse the network
[16:30] <Germanaz0> some solution for the "Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting" error ?
[16:30] <merlin2049er> or actually retrieve a list of files
[16:30] <norpan> escott: ah i understand so the command "mount /dev/sda2 /media/Ljunggren" will have no effect if i do it in terminal instead, not even with "sudo" before?
[16:30] <kio_http> melkor: I sometimes get a notification on the splash screen (looks similar to the fs check one) that says "waiting for network configuration" or "wiaiting 30s to timeout"
[16:30] <byp> merlin2049er: eg if you change dir it takes long time?
[16:30] <escott> norpan, will have no effect without sudo
[16:31] <merlin2049er> hmm, yes
[16:31] <merlin2049er> i have a little bit torrent nas unit
[16:31] <merlin2049er> i can't even browse that anymore
[16:31] <norpan> escott: but if im making  a document at desktop with the sudo command.. make it runable.. its just doubleclick to mount?
[16:32] <everythingWorks> how can i say "i dont want to activate bluetooth on startup"? :D
[16:32] <kio_http> BluesKaj: melkor: What ever has been setup must be exactly what the alternate cd uses to connect
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> !pm| Guest64318
[16:32] <escott> Germanaz0, best bet is to copy that segfault information together with the version of the kernel, mesa, Xorg, and intel drivers, as well as /proc/cpuinfo into a bug report on launchpad.net and ask what else they want to see
[16:33] <escott> norpan, don't do it that way. use udisks
[16:33] <Da|Mummy> any app that can give me control over fans? see if i can shut them off via software
[16:33] <Germanaz0> ok escott
[16:33] <norpan> escott: ok
[16:33] <melkor> kio_http: you might have and rc?.d file that starts wpa_supp.
[16:34] <Corigo> Any suggestions on how I can troubleshoot my software RAID5 and the fact that it suddenly stopped mounting?
[16:34] <merlin2049er> samba?
[16:34] <escott> norpan, either add it to fstab and figure out what permission options you want or add udisks to your gnome-session-properties and let it take care of the permissions
[16:34] <kio_http> melkor: let me check
[16:34] <escott> Corigo, cat /proc/mdstat
[16:34] <kio_http> merlin2049er: logically if wpa_supplicant is running kde cannot manage it?
[16:34] <byp> merlin2049er: my performance settings on smb.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/759442/
[16:35] <Corigo> Just says "inactive"
[16:35] <android_> Good Night!
[16:35] <kio_http> melkor: /etc/rc.d is not there
[16:35] <melkor> kio_http: that is correct. nm will use wpa_supplicant. You might be able to get away with killing wpa supplicant and then restarting nm.
[16:35] <ikonia> BluesKaj: I'm back
[16:36] <android_> Sleep Well :)
[16:36] <ikonia> BluesKaj: are you still having an issue ?
[16:36] <Corigo> It lists all of the member drives/partitions
[16:36] <escott> Corigo, mdadm --assemble --scan
[16:36] <byp> security question, if you type lastlog there are lot of system users like www-data mysql.... my FTP server uses local accounts, is it possible breakpoint?
[16:36] <merlin2049er> I can't even see the samba shares on my freenas box
[16:36] <escott> Corigo, and what does it say about those member drives and partitions
[16:36] <merlin2049er> argh
[16:36] <merlin2049er> what's wrong with samba
[16:37] <Corigo> mdadm: No arrays found in config file or automatically
[16:37] <escott> !paste | Corigo please paste the mdstat output
[16:37] <jtokarchuk> Is there anything I ahve to do to enable Alt combinations? (alt tab etc) or have they been removed?
[16:38] <melkor> kio_http: also it should be rc?.d where the ? is a number.
[16:38] <dr_willis> jtokarchuk:  removed from where? alt-tab works here...
[16:38] <kio_http> melkor: Ah yes
[16:38] <melkor> kio_http: or it could be in your init.d
[16:39] <Corigo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/759445/
[16:39] <crizzy> is there any way to disable that 'snap' feature?
[16:39] <jtokarchuk> de_willis: From install, I cannot make it work on 11.10
[16:39] <jtokarchuk> dr_willis: ^
[16:39] <dr_willis> jtokarchuk:  during the install? cant say ive noticed.
[16:39] <dr_willis> !ccsm | crizzy
[16:39] <dr_willis> crizzy:  i think its part of the grid plugin.
[16:39] <crizzy> ty
[16:39] <jtokarchuk> dr_willis: yeah, alt-tab does absolutely nothing for me
[16:40] <dr_willis> I tend to just install.. then reboot.. P)
[16:40] <dr_willis> :)
[16:40] <crizzy> that thing shoots yellow borders + overlay on my screen something like 100x per hour even i'm not even moving windows
[16:40] <jtokarchuk>  multipl reboots :[
[16:40] <Mr_EE1> hy guys
[16:40] <xgt001> hello, i am getting huge number of wakeups (close to 600) by [Rescheduling interrupts] <kernel IPI> how to stop it?
[16:40] <dr_willis> last install i did to a flash drive.. now i dd that flash to my box's for a quicker clone install. ;)
[16:41] <escott> Corigo, how many disks is this raid5 supposed to have?
[16:41] <Guest13831> siema
[16:41] <BluesKaj> ikonia,  no , he left
[16:41] <Corigo> 3
[16:41] <ikonia> BluesKaj: sorry about that, had to leave for a while, I assume he didn't get the issue resolved
[16:42] <escott> Corigo, sda1 is not included?
[16:42] <Corigo> No.
[16:42] <Corigo> Keeping my RAID for data only, OS is on separate drive
[16:42] <Corigo> e.g. sda1
[16:43] <yogg> Hello everybody
[16:43] <escott> Corigo, i guess just try to run it mdadm --assemble --run
[16:43] <Corigo> Ahlo
[16:43] <Qualia> Hello yogg
[16:43] <Qualia> hows it goin
[16:43] <Qualia> mang
[16:43] <yogg> I have some troubles. I can't get my buetooth mouse to work
[16:43] <Qualia> ok
[16:43] <xgt001> hello, i am getting huge number of wakeups (close to 600) by [Rescheduling interrupts] <kernel IPI> how to stop it?
[16:44] <Mr_EE1> pls help me to view tv on ubuntu11.10
[16:44] <Corigo> mdadm: md0 not identified in config file.
[16:44] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: did you check out the hardware compatability lists as I suggested
[16:44] <yogg> Hm. So I have no mooue, only keyboad. And when it prompts to add my mouse to the bluetooth manager, I "always grant acces", but it's doing nothin
[16:44] <ikonia> Corigo: have you built an mdadm config file ?
[16:45] <yogg> I just have the mouses mac adress
[16:45] <yogg> And I really don't know what to do. mabe someone has some idea please ?
[16:45] <Corigo> Yes, but it seems to have gone missing... how and why would be big questions... also last time I checked the tutorial I used is no longer online
[16:45] <Mr_EE1> ikonia: i could' nt do it, coz i dont know where to go
[16:46] <kio_http_> Mr_EE1: connection dropped sorry.
[16:46] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: where did you look ?
[16:46] <kio_http_> melkor:
[16:46] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: I gave you a link to check and suggested to check the web for Linux Hardware Compatability lists
[16:46] <ikonia> !hcl | Mr_EE1
[16:46] <kio_http_> melkor: connection dropped sorry
[16:46] <escott> Corigo, according to wikipedia mdadm -Es | grep md0  >>/etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[16:47] <Mr_EE1> ikonia: what is ""!hcl
[16:47] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: read the link ubottu sent you
[16:47] <BluesKaj> ikonia, no harm done , I'm sure he'll be back if he doesn't find a solution :)
[16:47] <Corigo> permission denied
[16:47] <Mr_EE1> ikonia: ok
[16:47] <ikonia> BluesKaj: I shall keep an eye out for him
[16:48] <ikonia> Corigo: ok, so you'll need to manually re-assemble the arrays and then dumpconf the details to a config file and put it in place
[16:48] <excelsio1> hello!?
[16:48] <Corigo> ikonia: how?
[16:49] <kio_http_> melkor: BluesKaj Incarus6 SHould I reinstall Kubuntu without setting details during install time or is there a solution /etc/init.d/ may be the culprit
[16:49] <ikonia> Corigo: which part ?
[16:49] <Corigo> both
[16:49] <Incarus6> kio_http_, you could try if wlan is working with a live cd
[16:49] <Mr_EE1> ikonia: can you give me an idea what to check coz am blank bro.. the page it opened and theres hardwares but there is no tv hardware
[16:50] <jtokarchuk> Does ubuntu have a key test program? Apparently, my alt keys aren't getting recognized (alt tab, ctrl alt t, does not work)
[16:50] <kio_http_> Incarus6: Wlan is working right now!, its just auto configured which I don't want so off course it works from live cd
[16:50] <escott> Corigo, change the /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf to /home/username/mdadm.conf, then sudo chown root:root the file and sudo mv it to /etc
[16:50] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: ok, so check other hardware compatability lists
[16:51] <kio_http_> Incarus6: It works on an identical computer where I did not enter WLAN SSID and key durring alternate installer setup fine
[16:51] <Mr_EE1> ikonia: it does the same too
[16:51] <ikonia> what does
[16:51] <Incarus6> jtokarchuk, xev
[16:52] <kio_http_> Is there a way to completely set all networking components to default
[16:52] <xgt001> i need some help regarding power management
[16:52] <jtokarchuk> Incarus6: Cannot find it with apt?
[16:53] <Incarus6> kio_http_, maybe "dpkg-reconfigure PACKETNAME"
[16:53] <Incarus6> jtokarchuk, type it in a terminal ;)
[16:53] <jtokarchuk> ^^
[16:53] <jtokarchuk> oh good, my alt keys aren't working period. Thanks Incarus6
[16:54] <Incarus6> Not sure if he was using xev correctly
[16:56] <Andrea-z> xgt001: have you asked to powertop?
[16:56] <melkor> kio_http_: did you find wlan_supplicant in your init.d ?
[16:57] <melkor> kio_http_: you need to stop the other program that is controlling your wireless. If you think reinstalling kde will fix it, it might be quicker.
[16:57] <kio_http_> melkor: Reinstalling kde no, reinstalling Kubuntu
[16:58] <kio_http_> kio_http_: But I don't want to do that
[16:58] <kio_http_> melkor: init.d is a folder
[16:58] <melkor> kio_http_: Isn't it filled with rc?.d file?
[16:58] <BluesKaj> melkor, kio_http_ this is what I referred to earlier , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[16:59] <melkor> BluesKaj: but he wants to use the network manager.
[17:00] <kio_http_> melkor: BluesKaj  I don't have a /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[17:00] <Corigo> All my changes to mdadm.conf are gone, and the tutorial I used is gone... argh!
[17:00] <kio_http_> but wpa_supplicant is running
[17:00] <melkor> kio_http_: yes you need to find what started it.
[17:00] <BluesKaj> melkor, well if there's abug that won't allow it , then what good is NM ...that's what I've been trying to point out.
[17:01] <melkor> BluesKaj: it works for him though he is connected to the internet.
[17:01] <kio_http_> melkor: Any ideas as to what starts it?
[17:01] <melkor> kio_http_: did you have any rc files?
[17:01] <Incarus6> BluesKaj, not sure if kdes network manager is causing that issue, he said wicd is also not working
[17:02] <kio_http_> melkor: yes in /etc but all are blank
[17:02] <melkor> kio_http_: can you run service?
[17:02] <melkor> kio_http_: they should be simlinked.
[17:03] <kio_http_> melkor: http://paste.kde.org/154772/
[17:03] <dewcow> how do you unmount a external harddrive
[17:03] <dewcow> when i do: unmount /mnt/...
[17:03] <dewcow> it says unmount is not a command
[17:04] <dr_willis> theres no n in umount....
[17:04] <dr_willis> so its correct. :)
[17:04] <dewcow> really?
[17:04] <dr_willis> its 'umount' not uNmount....
[17:04] <dewcow> *facepalm*
[17:04] <dr_willis> historical reasons... :)
[17:05] <dr_willis> and rember cAsE Is ImpRnTanT
[17:05] <melkor> kio_http_: what about your rc files, can you ls -lh that directory?
[17:05] <dewcow> thanks. i have been going nutz over here
[17:06] <kio_http_> melkor: contents http://paste.kde.org/154778/
[17:07] <melkor> kio_http_: what I think you can do, is stop network-manager with service. Then kill the programs, wpa_supplicant & dhclient the start network manager. It might work then. If not than I do not know.
[17:07] <Andrea-z> I have some issues with upgrade 11.04 to 11.10. Since update-manager doesn't offer the upgrade button, I've tried:
[17:07]  * BluesKaj thinks kio_http_ 's wpa_supplicant.conf file is in an alternate path than /etc/
[17:07] <kio_http_> melkor: But won't it restart on boot
[17:07] <Andrea-z> - do-relase-upgrade -c
[17:07] <Andrea-z> :no release available
[17:08] <BluesKaj> -d
[17:08] <kio_http_> BluesKaj: This is a bug in the alternate installer?
[17:08] <DeltaEpsilon> how do I resize a window with my keyboard?
[17:08] <melkor> kio_http_: Yes, but if what I say works, then you just have to find who starts it. If what I say doesn't work then I don't know what is going on. Also can you paste dmesg
[17:08] <BluesKaj> kio_http_, no it just uses a differnt destination
[17:09] <Andrea-z> ..Trying to refresh my packages list I've switched mirror, and refreshed the cache. Now aptitude proposes 18+GB to install..
[17:09] <melkor> BluesKaj: yes there is a wpa_supplicant.conf file.
[17:09] <melkor> BluesKaj: you can have multiple conf files and you point at the one you want to use. When you use wpa_supp. w/out a front end.
[17:09] <Andrea-z> DeltaEpsilon: Alt+F8
[17:09] <kio_http_> melkor: dmesg http://paste.kde.org/154790/
[17:10] <Duvrazh> Has anyone been able to sets up ubuntu-server 10.04 lts with netatalk and avahi-daemon as an Apple TimeMachine? pm me if you have resolved please.
[17:10] <DeltaEpsilon> Andrea-z, I want to press on a single key to resize and put a window to a certain location of my screen
[17:10] <escott> Andrea-z, i think you had a mirror that may have stopped mirroring. you are probably a number of months behind on updates
[17:10] <jtokarchuk> Incarus6: one pin on a laptop keyboard being loose causes some frustration ^^
[17:10] <DeltaEpsilon> there is a tool to do that. I can't remember the name
[17:10] <BluesKaj> melkor, yup wouldn't it be nice to just connect without NM :)
[17:11] <DeltaEpsilon> something like evilpy
[17:11] <Incarus6> jtokarchuk, so you fixed it?
[17:11] <jtokarchuk> Incarus6: yes, reseated my laptop keyboard and it all works now
[17:11] <Andrea-z> escott: so there's no way than install all this extra luggage?
[17:12] <escott> Andrea-z, since you are going to be going to 11.10 anyways why not ignore the updates that are due to the 11.04 system and jump straight to update-manager -c
[17:12] <melkor> kio_http_: it looks like apparmor is starting dhclient. Do you know what apparmor does?
[17:13] <escott> melkor, no. apparmor should not be starting dhclient. apparmor may be restricting files accessed by dhclient
[17:13] <kio_http_> melkor: No ... /etc/rc.d/networkmanager stop  cuts my internet and starts turns it back on
[17:14] <Andrea-z> escott: since update-manager doesn't offer any upgrade. As do-release-upgrade says there are no new releases to upgrade to
[17:14] <kio_http_> melkor: I mean init.d not rc.d
[17:15] <escott> Andrea-z, im not following. you changed your mirrors and now it lists 18gb of updates, but it doesnt list a new release available? what is your mirror right now?
[17:15] <Andrea-z> escott: Switzerland (ch)
[17:16] <theadmin> kio_http_: Arch user eh?
[17:16] <Andrea-z> escott: I switched from Germany (de)
[17:16] <melkor> kio_http_: so you can control your connection with network-manager but not with the icon on your desktop.
[17:16] <escott> Andrea-z, just !paste us your /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:18] <gerry1> wow lots of joins and quits
[17:19] <ElDorado> tob hi
[17:20] <ElDorado> msgbox("ok")
[17:20] <ElDorado> sry bad paste
[17:21] <FreeWilly> i cant seem to log into my samba share as guest or anonymously via my media player, within my smb.conf i define security = share, guest account = nobody and within my share definitions guest ok = yes, however media player cant login to those shares, any ideas?
[17:21] <kio_http_> melkor: What does etc/init.d/networking start exactly run because when I do start and stop it cuts or reconnects
[17:21] <ciao> ciao
[17:21] <ciao> !list
[17:22] <ciao> list
[17:22] <melkor> kio_http_: I don't know, I think you need to start/stop network manager and not networking.
[17:22] <Diamondcite> ...
[17:22] <ciao> ciao
[17:22] <Diamondcite> ...
[17:22] <ciao> !list
[17:22] <Diamondcite> That looks REALLY bot like...
[17:22]  * tommylom1ykins waves
[17:22] <theadmin> Diamondcite: ubottu is a bot
[17:22]  * Diamondcite pokes ciao with a long boot?
[17:23] <Duvrazh> Does anyone know how to set up avahi-daemon and netatalk as a TimeMachine drive for Mac OS X Lion? Target machine is Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS
[17:23] <tommylom1ykins> how do I get rid of the annoying "enter passwword to unlock login keyring " window?
[17:23] <theadmin> Diamondcite: She just responds to messages starting with ! that's all
[17:23] <theadmin> tommylom1ykins: Make sure your login keyring ain't password protected throug seahorse
[17:23] <Diamondcite> theadmin: I don't mean ubotttu, more like who it's responding to..
[17:23] <xangua> tommylom1ykins: keyring¿ do you have automatic log in enable¿ disable it ;)
[17:24] <tommylom1ykins> xangua: so, whatever happens, if I want to connect to the internet
[17:24] <melkor> kio_http_: so you icon doesn't even see your available wlans? Maybe stop network-manager and see if it can.
[17:24] <tommylom1ykins> I have to enter my login passowrd?
[17:24] <escott> !paste | Andrea-z
[17:24] <xangua> Diamondcite: ciao user is very weird, he always do the same when he leaves (11:22:28) ciao: !list
[17:25] <kio_http_> melkor: stop: Unknown instance:
[17:26] <theadmin> Diamondcite: Ubottu is a she, not it
[17:26] <theadmin> !gender | Diamondcite
[17:26] <melkor> kio_http_: service network-manager stop
[17:26] <Andrea-z> escott: the sources.list.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/759510/
[17:27] <kio_http_> melkor: same result
[17:28] <melkor> kio_http_: being, you disconnect, and then you reconnect or ?
[17:28] <Corigo> how can I simply "activate" my raid device if it showing inactive in mdstat?
[17:28] <kio_http_> melkor: stay connected and output is  service network-manager stop
[17:28] <kio_http_> sorry 1 sec
[17:28] <kio_http_> melkor: stop: Unknown instance:
[17:29] <melkor> did you tab complete for network manager? ie service net<tab>
[17:29] <Andrea-z> escott: the 18+GB of new install are only proposed by aptitude -u . upgrade-manager seems still of the idea no updates AND upgrades are available.
[17:29] <kio_http_> melkor: possible entries are networking                  network-interface           network-interface-security  network-manager
[17:29] <escott> Andrea-z, so that looks good. and i assume lsb-release -a shows you on natty. i guess do a sudo apt-get update; and then try do-release-upgrade again
[17:30] <FreeWilly> anyone with samba exp, i have a little issue?
[17:30] <kio_http_> melkor: for network-manager result is "stop: Unknown instance:"
[17:30] <Duvrazh> Recent room joiners, if you've succeeded at getting avahi-daemon and netatalk to function as a Bonjour-based TimeMachine, please let me know; I'm having configuration problems with error message
[17:30] <escott> Corigo, mdadm -Es should generate the contents of the mdadm.conf file
[17:30] <BluesKaj> kio_http_, try sudo service network-manager-kde stop
[17:31] <kio_http_> BluesKaj: network-manager-kde: unrecognized service
[17:31] <melkor> kio_http_: i'm lost if you do network-manager stop, it should stop it.
[17:31] <c|oneman> How do you run something like psyBNC automatically when the server is restarted?
[17:31] <theadmin> c|oneman: You write an initscript.
[17:31] <Andrea-z> escott: roger. 1 question: is maybe aptitude sometime going little crazy? Should I use only apt-* tools?
[17:32] <c|oneman> do I have permission to do so as limited user?
[17:32] <kio_http_> melkor: I know, but since 5 minutes my kde network widget has a red cross on it and detects no interfaces on the computer
[17:32] <theadmin> c|oneman: No, you haz to be root/have sudo rights
[17:32] <Duvrazh> Andrea-z (as root) apt-get -y --force-yes purge aptitude && apt-get -y -f --force-yes install aptitude
[17:32] <melkor> kio_http_: maybe it is already stopped, and you have to start it.
[17:32] <kio_http_> melkor: start gives be this "network-manager start/running, process 4480 "
[17:32] <ciao> ciao
[17:32] <ciao> !list
[17:32] <kio_http_> melkor: then an subsequent stop gives the same message
[17:33] <Andrea-z> Duvrazh: ok. Since a simple apt-get update didn't do any magic..
[17:33] <melkor> did your widget change when you started it?
[17:33] <c|oneman> theadmin: so can I use a crontab or some other solution?
[17:33] <kio_http_> melkor: no
[17:34] <norpan> When i installed ubuntu i lost my 8 cores. I solved it with updating BIOS, now suddenly i only see one core again. whats the deal?
[17:34] <theadmin> c|oneman: Well, with crontab... Hm, you could use a line simlar to this: "@reboot /usr/bin/whatever -what -ever blah"
[17:34] <kio_http_> melkor: BluesKaj  and now if I click "manage connections" kdeinit4 crashes
[17:35] <theadmin> c|oneman: Please note that despite it says "reboot", it really happens at the startup of the cron daemon if it's in /etc/crontab, OR at user's login if it's in a user's crontab.
[17:35] <melkor> kio_http_: I'm sorry but I just do not know kde well enough to help.
[17:35] <Incarus6> kio_http_, btw, using 11.10?
[17:35] <escott> Andrea-z, they all rely on apt. they may be something buggy about the other programs. its also not a bad idea to run a "do-release-upgrade" inside a screen instance so that you can resume it later
[17:36] <kio_http_> lighta: Yes
[17:36] <kio_http_> melkor: I do and I the crash is just because it cannot access network-manager for configuration
[17:36] <Corigo> I think that because the raid is inactive there is nothing to generate
[17:36] <lighta> ?? kio_http_ ?
[17:36] <kio_http_> lIncarus6 yes
[17:36] <Corigo> (escott)
[17:36] <norpan> When i installed ubuntu i lost my 8 cores. I solved it with updating BIOS, now suddenly i only see one core again. whats the deal?
[17:36] <kio_http_> lighta: Sorry wrong tab complete
[17:38] <mkjackson_remote> Hey everyone, just got into 11.10 and I can't seem to find /boot/grub/menu.lst? any reason it's not here? google's been failing me.... :-/
[17:38] <kio_http_> melkor: BluesKaj  is this relevant https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/811441
[17:38] <escott> norpan, what does /proc/cpuinfo say
[17:39] <norpan> escott: i will check
[17:39] <melkor> kio_http_: could be, did any of their fixes work for you?
[17:39] <escott> mkjackson_remote, grub2 uses grub.conf
[17:40] <kio_http_> melkor: I did not try
[17:40] <mkjackson_remote> escott: gah, ty!
[17:40] <Andrea-z> escott: Duvrazh: reinstalling aptitude, also removed an unused package (..nice).  But still no luck. Have you any idea where apt looks in the repository for new available releases?
[17:40] <norpan> escott: command did not work
[17:40] <rafael> how can i connect in ubuntu server the same way as vnc, because i have to put it to process something sometimes
[17:41] <Duvrazh> Andrea-z sorry, I don't know that far in-depth, I'm just pretty okay at resolving my issues
[17:41] <kio_http_> melkor: I have wpa_supplicant in /var/run
[17:41] <Duvrazh> andrea-z if you want to give me temporary ssh access I'll look around.. I'm mucking in a machine right now anyways
[17:41] <escott> norpan, its not a command its a file
[17:41] <norpan> oh
[17:41] <Ampelbein> !info vino | rafael
[17:42] <kio_http_> melkor: also  wpa_supplicant.wlan0.pid
[17:42] <escott> Andrea-z, the new releases is different from apt. its a tool that checks for a different sources.list configuration
[17:42] <derek> hi
[17:42] <Andrea-z> Duvrazh: no thanks anyway. Need to leave the channel (and my pc..)
[17:42] <rafael> Ampelbein: but i have to install vino and gnome in the server ?
[17:42] <Andrea-z> escott: thanks I'll have a deeper look into it
[17:43] <melkor> kio_http_: I don't know what /var/run is, it seems like it indicates the process was started during boot?
[17:43] <james305> anyone know how to disable the touchpad on a levono laptop?  i'm using ununtu 11.10
[17:43] <norpan> escott: it says this http://tinypaste.com/26264f4d
[17:43] <xangua> james305: use your function keys
[17:43] <Ampelbein> rafael: You have to install vino. The rest will get installed automatically. Though I don't see the benefit of having vnc on a server. You should use ssh to admin it.
[17:43] <kio_http_> melkor: maybe it looks suspicious I also have dhclient.wlan0.pid
[17:43] <theadmin> james305: Laptops normally have a button (or a button combo) for this purpose.
[17:44] <escott> norpan, uname -a
[17:44] <theadmin> james305: It can be one of the fn keys
[17:44] <kio_http_> melkor: can you check you /var/run ? and see if it has wpa_supplicant in there
[17:44] <melkor> kio_http_: those are fine, that is how the processes are managed.
[17:44] <rafael> james305: at the same time press fn + f8
[17:44] <norpan> escott: Linux norpan-ubuntu 3.0.0-13-generic #22-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 2 13:27:26 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:44] <Anom01y> I had a strange problem with Nautilus and sshfs yesterday, I mounted a local ssh server using sshfs, and used nautilus to copy a file from the remote computer.
[17:45] <Anom01y> it would stop at like 35 mb
[17:45] <james305> rafael - worked!  thank you!
[17:45] <Anom01y> so I had to download and use filezilla, which worked perfect
[17:45] <rafael> james305: in my laptop is this model: g550
[17:45] <escott> norpan, never seen that before. can you send us dmesg output
[17:45] <rafael> Ampelbein: i have to install gnome on the server ?
[17:45] <Anom01y> I tried several times (each time I had to reset the computer because I didn't know how to kill the copy process
[17:45] <melkor> kio_http_: it does but it is not quit the same.
[17:46] <marg> I cannot get my computer to recognize/connect with my router at all.  Not sure what is wrong.  It will work with my DSL modem directly, not the router
[17:46] <Ampelbein> rafael: You can install any desktop environment you want.
[17:47] <escott> marg, what kind of router? what kind of connection?
[17:48] <rafael> Ampelbein: to use in this way only with desktop environment ? is it ?
[17:48] <marg> escott, DLink DIR-615 router.  The router works on two other computers with no problems
[17:48] <marg> escott, wired connection
[17:49] <kio_http_> melkor: BluesKaj ... I think I found my problem !! /etc/network/interfaces has http://paste.kde.org/154832/ ... should I remove it?
[17:49] <BluesKaj> kio_http_, I'm wondering if, sudo apt-get install  --reinstall network-manager , will help ....you may have a had a gui glitch during your install
[17:49] <kio_http_> BluesKaj: See previous
[17:49] <Ampelbein> !vnc | rafael, have a look at this:
[17:49] <kio_http_> BluesKaj: melkor I removed my real ssid and pass from that
[17:50] <escott> marg, what does "route" say
[17:50] <BluesKaj> kio_http_, absolutely not !
[17:50] <crystaltvco> greetings.. i did a 10.10 upgrade recently.. and now I dont get the grub boot menu to choose between xp and ubuntu disks? can find dual boot on same disk but not separate disks
[17:50] <kio_http_> BluesKaj: meaning?
[17:50] <BluesKaj> don't remove it
[17:51] <BluesKaj> but try my post above , kio_http_
[17:51] <kio_http_> BluesKaj: I meant the lines auto wlan 0 and after
[17:51] <melkor> kio_http_: I think blueskaj's suggestion with apt is better to try first.
[17:51] <escott> crystaltvco, the other os detection is handled by os-prober. does it detect the other os
[17:51] <melkor> kio_http_: if you edit your interfaces just make sure to back it up..
[17:51] <melkor> anyways I am out.
[17:51] <kio_http_> melkor: BluesKaj Already tried the apt thing did not work
[17:52] <crystaltvco> escott, yes it boots to xp no problems
[17:52] <kio_http_> melkor: Thanks for the time
[17:52] <crystaltvco> but no menu
[17:52] <escott> !grub | crystaltvco
[17:52] <kio_http_> BluesKaj: I'll try removing the lines auto and subsequent, if it fails I'll restore a backup
[17:52] <crystaltvco> escott, did not install windows.. they are on separate hd's
[17:53] <escott> crystaltvco, or try switching the boot order. sounds like your ubuntu disk is being skipped over either because the grub isnt on the mbr or because the boot order is wrong
[17:53] <BluesKaj> kio_http_, you may need to reboot after a --reinstall , if you did as I suggested
[17:53] <kio_http_> BluesKaj: I did reboot (I tried that before)
[17:53] <crystaltvco> escott, boot order sounds like a good place to start
[17:53] <kio_http_> BluesKaj: Can I see your /etc/network/interfaces?
[17:53] <_Florine_> Ok, y'a pas de Français..
[17:54] <GeorgeWashington> Hey Ubuntu-ers.  I've got a problem with my netbook's speakers when I use Jolicloud (based on Ubuntu 10.04), but I'll wait a few minutes for your help so I can contribute to the current conversation.
[17:54] <theadmin> !fr | _Florine_
[17:54] <BluesKaj> that actual command kio_http_ , or just reinstall
[17:54] <BluesKaj> ?
[17:54] <theadmin> GeorgeWashington: We don't support Jolicloud here, nor any derivatives as a matter of fact.
[17:54] <kio_http_> BluesKaj: The command and reboot
[17:55] <BluesKaj> kio_http_, it won't help , this pc is on an ethernet connection , and I don't use network manager
[17:55] <GeorgeWashington> Okay, yeah, but do you think you could help me with my speaker problem regardless that it's Joli OS??  I installed Tor yesterday, and now my speakers don't work (either that, or I just noticed it last night).
[17:55] <kio_http_> BluesKaj: Ok ... my other identical laptop does not have the SSID and passprhase in the same file
[17:57] <theadmin> GeorgeWashington: No, we can't help with problems that are not on one of the official Ubuntu derivatives. Given that Jolicloud uses an entire different KERNEL, as a matter of fact, and that's a huge difference, we can have no idea how stuff works with it
[17:57] <kio_http_> BluesKaj: I'm going to try using the exact lines from the PC that works and rebooting
[17:57] <matrixiumn> hello
[17:58] <BluesKaj> kio_http_, ok , good luck
[17:58] <GeorgeWashington> Ahhhhh, I see.  Okay, thanks theadmin.  I'll stay on this channel so I can contribute to helping the community.
[17:58] <sidney> is there an lubuntu channel
[17:58] <BluesKaj> kio_http_, the IPs will be different
[17:59] <piotr__> eee
[17:59] <GeorgeWashington> I'm multitasking atm, so I'll be afk a few times.
[17:59] <kio_http_> BluesKaj: No ips in the file its auto dhcp
[17:59] <xangua> #lubuntu sidney
[17:59] <sidney> thanks
[18:00] <BluesKaj> kio_http_, of sorry , I forgot I use static
[18:00] <BluesKaj> oh
[18:00] <norpan> escott: yes i can, are you still there? PM?
[18:00] <escott> norpan, yes
[18:01] <mamece2> im back, i can boot desktop with my pci xpress video card, but i cant with my pci trident card
[18:01] <crystaltvco> escott, It appears I do not have a windows entry in my grub.cfg
[18:01] <dr_willis> trident.. now thats an old name...
[18:01] <AlpT> hi guys, I am having some problems. I did an apt-get upgrade and now I have: $ chromium-browser
[18:01] <AlpT> Segmentation fault
[18:01] <AlpT> What to do? How can I downgrade chromium-browser? (Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS. 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP)
[18:02] <Phrogz> Can someone help me with rsync? This command looks like it's working...but it isn't: http://pastie.org/2965368
[18:02] <mamece2> dr_willis: its a 94' trident
[18:02] <kio_http_> BluesKaj: I use static too, normally but KDE's stuff not working did not give me a choice anyway rebooting
[18:02] <kantor> Hello
[18:02] <mamece2> dr_willis: theres no xorg.conf anymore in lubuntu 11.10 so i cant use my old video card, xorg -configure doesnt work neither
[18:03] <dr_willis> mamece2:  x auto configures.. if you have an old xorg.conf you could try it.
[18:03] <dr_willis> thers some command to generate a xorg.conf  but what would you change in it?
[18:03] <mamece2> dr_willis: i dont, i even made a xorg.conf from scratch
[18:04] <dr_willis> with that old a card. i wonder what driver its even using..
[18:04] <marg> escott, any ideas?
[18:04] <escott> norpan, how many cpus did you provide your vm?
[18:04] <mamece2> dr_willis: i think X doesnt get the xorg.conf from /etc/X11/
[18:04] <norpan> escott: im not using VM..
[18:04] <dr_willis> mamece2:  it does. every nvidia system i got has one in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:04] <dr_willis> mamece2:  they are just a few lines in my case. for my twinview settings.
[18:04] <kantor> I have ubuntu 11.04. From time to time the screen goes black, and a narrow stripe appears on the left side of the display. For sure it is because of an incompatibility of the driver with my video card. MY question is where can I check what kind of driver loads ubuntu for my video card? As I read the old xorg.conf file is not used any more :(
[18:04] <norpan> escott: check pm, i think you mean VM is VirtualMachine?
[18:05] <escott> norpan, nevermind that message is in all kernels odd
[18:05] <shaneo> hey guys intersting thing i installed 32bit Ubuntu 11.10 after an epic pc fail and i have 8gb of ram. Ubuntu is using and recognizing my 8gb but i thought 32 bit could only handle 4gb any comments??
[18:05] <mamece2> dr_willis:  mines just a trident TGUI9440 rev 3
[18:05] <tetdsuo--> Hello, since installing 11.10 i can no longer see the timekpr icon in the dock, i have done the dconf thing for allow all icons to show up but it's still not there, how can i make unity show the timekpr icon?
[18:05] <escott> marg, what does route say?
[18:06] <norpan> escott: "no APIC, boot with the "lapic" boot parameter to force-enable it." hm
[18:06] <tetdsuo--> i meant system tray
[18:08] <shaneo> nevermind i guess 11.10 comes with a precompiled pae kernel
[18:08] <shaneo> which maps for memory to a 32bit pc
[18:08] <shaneo> good stuff :)
[18:08] <BarkingFish> devish - could I politely ask you please, not to CTCP me without asking first?  The CTCP TIME you sent me, disconnected me from freenode.
[18:08] <dr_willis> i thought one was in the repos shaneo  :) but not the default.
[18:08] <marg> escott, route says nothing as it is not connected
[18:09] <theadmin> shaneo: No, we have no PAE for default
[18:09] <escott> norpan, you do have a lot of kernel arguments. it most likely one of them, because it detects 8 slots, but only brings up 1
[18:09] <shaneo> hmm
[18:09] <theadmin> shaneo: Besides PAE is similar to the HIGHMEM nonsense, it never really works well
[18:09] <shaneo> well i never installed it but all 8 running fine well 7.5
[18:09] <shaneo> i was just suprised
[18:10] <devish> BarkingFish: ohh..i was enjoying this one
[18:10] <shaneo> but thank you for clarigying
[18:10] <kyrol> hi all
[18:10] <shaneo> *clarifying
[18:10] <escott> marg, how about ifconfig
[18:10] <BarkingFish> devish: generally it's polite not to simply go round bouncing CTCP off people without asking them :)
[18:10] <ko420> hi, i am new to ubuntu... figured out a lot yet, but there are still some unanswered questions and 1 unsolved problem... any germans here that could help? :)) (btw... my first irc session too ^^)
[18:10] <marg> ifconfig does not show an ip address for etho
[18:11] <BarkingFish> Some people are susceptible to issues in their routers which can disconnect them when certain things occur, like DCC transmissions, CTCP actions, etc.
[18:12] <norpan> escott: ok, what do i have to do?:S
[18:12] <sameh_> hi
[18:12] <devish> BarkingFish: ok get it... where you saw it in the logs?
[18:12] <sameh_> any one from bahrain
[18:12] <escott> norpan, i would take the noapic and nolapic out if you can
[18:12] <BluesKaj> marg, try, ip addr
[18:13] <norpan> escott: my pc isnt fit for ubuntu maybe? just give up? ... im booting with nolapic? i tought i did not
[18:13] <norpan> escott: there is no noapic or nolapic when i edit /etc/default/grub!!
[18:13] <kyrol> i written simle script. it is in very same folder as command in last line but i can't execute command from last line. please help me
[18:13] <kyrol> http://goo.gl/FsDnw
[18:13] <sameh_> guys
[18:13] <sameh_> anyone can help on wine ?
[18:13] <escott> norpan, then run update-grub, and take a look at your /boot/grub/grub.conf file
[18:14] <sameh_> @_cd
[18:14] <devish> BarkingFish: were you in #freenode?
[18:14] <dr_willis> sameh_:  state the problem and see..
[18:15] <sameh_> im always getting The installation or removal of a software package failed.
[18:16] <dr_willis> sameh_:  you are saying 'sudo apt-get install wine' fails?
[18:16] <dr_willis> bbl....
[18:17] <kyrol> anyone know bash scrip related channel?
[18:17] <sameh_> yes exactly
[18:17] <theadmin> kyrol: #bash
[18:17] <bastidrazor> kyrol: #bash
[18:19] <mamece2> excuse me, wheres xorg.conf in ubuntu 11.10?
[18:19] <escott> mamece2, most people wont have one
[18:19] <Myrtti> mamece2: there is none by default, the screen is autoconfigured
[18:20] <mamece2> ok i know that but i already did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i need a xorg.conf cuz i have a trident video card
[18:20] <Frogging101> This may be a really stupid question, but... Where are the screensaver settings in 10.10? I can't find them...
[18:20] <theadmin> mamece2: Write one... Or use X -configure
[18:20] <mamece2> theadmin: ok but where is the resulting file?
[18:20] <theadmin> Frogging101: 10.10? Pretty much where they always are... System -> Preferences -> Screensaver
[18:21] <Frogging101> I also can't find the appearance settings for graphics effects, like there was in previous ubuntu versions. like "Fancy effects" and such
[18:21] <theadmin> mamece2: That will create an xorg.conf for you
[18:21] <sameh_> #bahrain
[18:21] <theadmin> mamece2: Normally you don't need one
[18:21] <syed> hi
[18:21] <syed> o all
[18:21] <mamece2> theadmin:  i do, i have a old PC with a trident video card, but wheres the file located?
[18:21] <Frogging101> theadmin: But where is that? The menus at the top of the screen are gone
[18:21] <syed> i am new for ubuntu
[18:21] <theadmin> mamece2: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:21] <syed> any one can help me
[18:21] <GeorgeWashington> Hey, this is slightly off-topic, but does anybody know why Compiz is so damn crashy and unstable?  Lmao!
[18:21] <theadmin> Frogging101: Oh, did 10.10 use Unity already? Okay, then press the Windows key and type in "Screensaver"
[18:22] <Frogging101> syed: You need to ask a more specific question than that
[18:22] <Frogging101> theadmin: Doesn't work
[18:22] <kantor> Hello
[18:22] <theadmin> Frogging101: Oookay... Odd...
[18:22] <Frogging101> theadmin: All that shows up is "lock screen", which just locks the screen
[18:22] <GeorgeWashington> Hello, kantor. =)
[18:22] <syed> mm i'm using ubuntu studio 11.10
[18:22] <kantor> Where can I see  what kind of driver loads linux for my video card? I'm using 11.04
[18:22] <Frogging101> So... does anyone know where the screensaver settings are in Ubuntu 10.10?
[18:23] <syed> its not supprot video file how can i
[18:23] <arlo> Hello, i will create a backup with this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/SimpleBackupSuite , where a my sql files places in folders?
[18:23] <c|oneman> frontslash above number pad... Y U NO work
[18:23] <norpan> escott: yep, that wat it, all the cores is here now. thank you =)
[18:24] <chost> hello
[18:24] <mamece2> linux makes me (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
[18:24] <syed> how can i develop new software for linux
[18:24] <chost> Chanel
[18:25] <jtokarchuk> syed: http://developer.ubuntu.com
[18:25] <Foulad> guys
[18:25] <Foulad> any one can help me
[18:25] <jtokarchuk> Foulad: Can't seem to find it either
[18:25] <arlo> Hello, i will create a backup with this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/SimpleBackupSuite , where a my sql files places in folders?
[18:25] <Foulad> i need to run windows application using wine
[18:26] <syed> oh
[18:26] <Anom01y> hi I am having a problem with sshfs and nautilus, when I try and copy a file from a remote computer via ssh, the transfer stops at 1 or 2 %
[18:26] <Anom01y> and I have to reset the computer
[18:26] <Anom01y> filezila works perfect
[18:26] <Anom01y> filezilla
[18:26] <Foulad> any one can help me?
[18:26] <theadmin> Foulad: Try #winehq
[18:27] <mamece2> how can i enter into grub and not directly into the OS
[18:27] <theadmin> mamece2: Try holding left shift during boot
[18:28] <atpa8a> why do i get 'No space left on device' during apt-get operation if df shows plenty of space?..
[18:28] <mamece2> thx
[18:28] <syed> .deb is not supports  for ubuntu studio? then which software is used for studio?
[18:28] <sweetgrass> Hi. I have an error which i am trying to get to the bottom of. Any help would be appreciated. The error is: bad interpreter: Too many levels of symbolic links.
[18:30] <escott> sweetgrass, most likely you have recursive symlinks. the script might begin with #!/bin/interpreter and /bin/interpreter points to /bin/something which points to /bin/interpreter
[18:30] <Foulad> guys any one free to tell me if i can install https://secure.stardevelop.com/customer.htm using wine or not
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> !appdb
[18:31] <Foulad> no one in #winehq
[18:31] <sweetgrass> escott: i think i messed up when trying to untangle my python install. Just not sure where to fix the links
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: click the link
[18:32] <docmur> I have a very annoying networking issue in Linux, that doesn't occur in windows.  My entire network on my Dekstop is computer, not this one is very slow and interrupts service a few times an hour.  I get vety low bandwidth to the router DGL-4500 and I'm connecting to it using wired and wireless.   WHen I ssh into my server ( tis computer ) I can type about 40 character before my input freezes for a few minutes, then I can type again.  Firefox
[18:33] <escott> sweetgrass, so /usr/bin/python should point to /usr/bin/python#.# as desired
[18:33] <OerHeks> Foulad, i think Live Help Messenger Windows application is not suitable for wine. i can't find any instance in WineHQ database.
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> docmur: tty disabling ipv6
[18:33] <Foulad> so OerHeks what do you suggest ?
[18:33] <Frogging101> I just started using ubuntu again. The new Unity interface is nice, but it confuses me a bit. Firstly, I can't find the screensaver settings anymore. Where are they?
[18:34] <docmur> well I honestly haven't tried that yet so I'll give it a go
[18:34] <docmur> wont try it till later
[18:34] <sweetgrass> escott: i want it to point to my distress default python, which I believe is 2.6 as I am on 10.04 LTS
[18:34] <xangua> Frogging101: there is no screensaver on gnome, you neex to install xscreensaver
[18:34] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[18:34] <Frogging101> xangua: Thanks, I'll try that
[18:34] <OerHeks> Foulad try it, f it does not work, see the error to solve it.
[18:34] <sweetgrass> s/distress/distros/
[18:34] <xangua> Frogging101: see above for more info on it and other tweaks
[18:34] <Frogging101> xangua: But... in any version of Ubuntu i've used previously it's been there by default.
[18:34] <DeltaEpsilon> I like Ubuntu so far but the interface is lagy from time to time
[18:34] <PumkinPie> i have searched and searched for days, so im asking now.  presario cq57 has no wireless out of box on any other distro but 11.10 which freezes, so it is worthless to me. noone knows what to do.  do you? are you experienced enough?
[18:34] <DeltaEpsilon> it is not 100% smooth
[18:35] <PumkinPie> show me what you got
[18:35] <xangua> Frogging101: the new gnome3 doesn't have, so the new ubuntu neither
[18:35] <ikonia> PumkinPie: sorry, whats the issue?
[18:35] <PumkinPie> no wireless out of box. no forum help. others have asked and get no responce
[18:36] <Frogging101> xangua: Okay, thanks. That's a step backwards in my opinion though.
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> DeltaEpsilon: what gpu and cpu do you use and how much ram do you have?
[18:36] <ikonia> PumkinPie: you said it doesn't work in any other distro too ?
[18:36] <ikonia> PumkinPie: is that correct ?
[18:36] <PumkinPie> ikonia: that is correct...other than 11.10 which frezes....i am at your direction
[18:36] <Foulad> guys sudo apt-install wine now working for me
[18:37] <DeltaEpsilon> ActionParsnip, i5-2300 + onboard gfx (I think Intel HD 3000) + 16GB ram
[18:37] <ikonia> PumkinPie: so 11.10 does see it, but freezes, correct ?
[18:37] <ngine> hi all, does anyone knows any ISP Billing software in Linux?
[18:37] <PumkinPie> yes
[18:37] <antonio_> !list
[18:37] <PumkinPie> xchat
[18:37] <ikonia> PumkinPie: what model network card is it ?
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: apt-install isn't a command
[18:37] <PumkinPie> lspci command?
[18:37] <antonio_> ciao
[18:37] <Frogging101> Also I think the new software centre is a step in the wrong direction. It seems to be implying non-free software with it specifying "free"
[18:37] <Foulad> so what is the correct commend ?
[18:37] <engine40> hi all, does anyone knows any ISP Billing software in Linux?
[18:38] <ikonia> Frogging101: what are you talking about
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> DeltaEpsilon: have you tested ram health?
[18:38] <PumkinPie> ikonia: oops. im on 2 boxes. gotta install xchat on one if you need outputs.
[18:38] <DeltaEpsilon> ActionParsnip, ram should be okay. win 7 works flawlessly
[18:38] <ikonia> I don't want outputs
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: sudo apt-get install wine
[18:38] <ikonia> PumkinPie: I just want you to tell me what network card is in it
[18:39] <Foulad> oh ok thanks
[18:39] <Frogging101> ikonia: The new software centre in Ubuntu 10.10, some software has prices now. Most of it is free, but I still think it's a step in the wrong direction to make it easy to charge money for linux software
[18:39] <ikonia> Frogging101: give 1 example
[18:39] <sweetgrass> escott: i have been using the following command to try and set the right path: sudo ln -sf python /usr/bin/python
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> DeltaEpsilon: the ram may be bad but windows could have a mechanism to deal with it
[18:39] <PumkinPie> ikonia: ill install xchat on the box in question so i can cut and past properly. please wait one. forgive me for not being ready
[18:39] <ikonia> PumkinPie: I don't want a cut and paste
[18:40] <escott> sweetgrass, thats what is wrong. you /usr/bin/python is now pointing to itself
[18:40] <Frogging101> ikonia: Open the Ubuntu software centre. And look in the "What's new" section. You'll notice that many of the programs have a price tag
[18:40] <ikonia> PumkinPie: I want you to tell me the model of the network card, not cut and paste
[18:40] <PumkinPie> ikonia: how do i find that out?
[18:40] <Foulad> when i try wine for my windows app i get this erro "sudo apt-get install wine" any ideas ?
[18:40] <ikonia> Frogging101: no, I'm asking you to give me an example of free software that has a price next to it in ubuntu software center
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> dataworm_: there is a memtest in grub. Even just running the first few test will show bad ram
[18:40] <arlo> hello where are my phpmyadmin sql files placed in ubuntu ?
[18:40] <arlo> hello where are my phpmyadmin sql files placed in ubuntu ?
[18:40] <ikonia> PumkinPie: look up the model of the laptop and it's spec, look at lspci as you suggested
[18:40] <PumkinPie> ikonia: ok, thank you
[18:41] <Foulad> when i try wine for my windows app i get this erro "err:cabinet:FDICopy FDIIsCabinet failed: 2.
[18:41] <Foulad> " any ideas ?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: dude, make your life easier and use software centre
[18:41] <Frogging101> ikonia: Any free software says "Free" next to it. That's fine, but the fact that it specifies that is saying that there is software that isn't free.
[18:41] <Detergentizer> hi
[18:41] <mamece2> how can i run grub when im in cli ?
[18:41] <ikonia> Frogging101: please give one example
[18:41] <sweetgrass> escott: ok.so i should be pointing it to /usr/bin/python2.6 or whatever
[18:41] <Detergentizer> i have 4GB memory do I need swap?
[18:41] <Foulad> when i try wine for my windows app i get this erro "err:cabinet:FDICopy FDIIsCabinet failed: 2.
[18:41] <Frogging101> ikonia: Gparted
[18:41] <Foulad> any ideas ?
[18:41] <ikonia> Frogging101: so you are saying it's charging money for gparted ?
[18:41] <PumkinPie> ikonia: its me...please wait one
[18:41] <escott> sweetgrass, yes
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: if you get messages running the app with wine then you will
[18:41] <PumkinPie> lspci
[18:42] <Detergentizer> ???
[18:42] <ikonia> PumkinPie: please don't paste the output of lspci
[18:42] <Detergentizer> did u heard me?
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: use the errors in searches to see what it means
[18:42] <escott> Detergentizer, depends on what you do. if you work with large graphics files or browse a lot on the web pages maybe
[18:42] <Frogging101> ikonia: No. My point is basically, that the new software centre is a step in the wrong direction because they now host paid software
[18:42] <mamece2> how can i run grub when im in cli ?
[18:42] <arlo> Are therot expert on this?
[18:42] <purpose> ikonia: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
[18:42] <ikonia> Frogging101: so ?
[18:42] <ikonia> Frogging101: some solutions cost money
[18:42] <purpose> is that it?
[18:42] <Detergentizer> android development
[18:42] <ikonia> Frogging101: it's up to you if you want to use it
[18:42] <arlo> where are my sql files placed ? in ubuntu
[18:43] <escott> mamece2, what do you mean run grub?
[18:43] <serega_by> Åñòü êòî ðóññêîãîâîðÿùèé ?
[18:43] <ikonia> purpose: that's not a wireless card, that's your network card, is that what you meant ?
[18:43] <mamece2> escott: i hold left shit and now i am in root with network . i want to run dpkg to restore broken packages
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: is there no opensource equivalent??
[18:44] <Foulad> no
[18:44] <purpose> ikonia: yes. and i will not post the entire output.  i dont know what im looking for other than that though
[18:44] <Foulad> its live chat app
[18:44] <mamece2> escott: i have a problem , i did xorg -configure and theres no xorg.conf in /etc/X11/ what happened?
[18:44] <ikonia> purpose: ok, just needed to check you had a problem with your wired card, and not your wireless card
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: what protocol?
[18:45] <escott> mamece2, you are all over the place. first its grub, then dpkg, then Xorg. what are you trying to do
[18:45] <Foulad> any one know good application to edit html with design view ?
[18:45] <DeltaEpsilon> Foulad, dreamweaver
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: is it mentioned in the forums?
[18:45] <purpose> ikonia: i see nothing refering to wireless. i deduce my box is not recognizing my chipset
[18:45] <mamece2> escott: i just want my trident video card to work, its a messed up screen what i get
[18:45] <Foulad> dreamweaver any download links?
[18:45] <ikonia> purpose: I'm just trying to clarify if the problem you are complaining about is on your wired card, or your wireless card
[18:46] <ikonia> Foulad: no, you have to buy it from adobe
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: bluefish and kompozer are 2 i can think of quickly
[18:46] <Sidewinder1> Foulad, Have you checked Quanta Plus?
[18:46] <Foulad> no
[18:46] <purpose> ikonia: no prob with ethernet...only wireless. thank you
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> DeltaEpsilon: why buy when there are open solutions :-)
[18:47] <ikonia> purpose: ok, so that line you posted is for the wired connection, not the wirless
[18:47] <ikonia> purpose: I need to know what model wireless card is in it
[18:47] <Foulad> so  bluefish and kompozer or Quanta Plus , what is your recommendation ? with design view
[18:47] <purpose> ikonia: how do i retrieve that info for you?
[18:47] <ckattila> hali
[18:47] <escott> mamece2, you might try !nomodeset. the trident chipset isnt the best, im not sure how well it would be supported
[18:47] <reesk> could someone help me i need hep picking out a ubuntu distro for a netbook
[18:47] <ikonia> purpose: it should be in lspci or look up the hardware spec as I've told you
[18:48] <Sidewinder1> Foulad, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quanta_Plus
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: have a try, or review features to see what suits
[18:48] <xangua> reesk: ubuntu.com ¿
[18:48] <escott> !nomodeset | mamece2
[18:48] <purpose> ikonia: i do not know how to interpret lspci, so i will look up the hardware spec as instructed. thanks
[18:48] <mneptok> purpose: if it's a USB dongle, try "lsusb -vvv"
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> reesk: lubuntu will free up more resources
[18:49] <Sidewinder1> !pastebinit | purpose
[18:49] <Foulad> Quanta Plus is it free ?
[18:49] <reesk> xangua: i know the website but i dont know which would be best for it i used to use nbr but now thats moved o to th elatest generation of netbooks and barley works on the old netboos
[18:49] <Foulad> foulad
[18:49] <reesk> ActionParsnip: ill give it a look
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: go see :-)
[18:49] <purpose> mneptok: im googling "dongle" but no usb "stick". it is internal
[18:50] <mamece2> escott: i barely know CLI and u want me to modify a kernel? o_O
[18:50] <purpose> ubottu: will do. thank you for your patience
[18:50] <Sidewinder1> Foulad, Did you read the link I sent you?
[18:50] <Sidewinder1> purpose, :-)
[18:51] <escott> mamece2, no its an argument to the kernel during the boot. you can modify /boot/grub/grub.conf or you can make a temporary change by using the bootloaders built in editor
[18:51] <Sidewinder1> Foulad, Quanta Plus should be in your repositories.
[18:51] <Foulad> yes fast reading , how can i add your name so text will be sent to you?
[18:51] <purpose> hahaha
[18:52] <purpose> more intelligent than i
[18:52] <bastidrazor> Foulad: type it.
[18:52] <Sidewinder1> !who | Foulad
[18:52] <Frogging101> Best Linux video editor?
[18:52] <mamece2> escott: ok, i upgrading and updating just in case. whats the command to check for broken packages?

[18:53] <Detergentizer> I CREATED A 5000MB PART
 is it red for you now ?
[18:53] <escott> mamece2, apt-get check
[18:53] <Sidewinder1> Foulad, You got it!
[18:53] <TheTrash> Is the ppa:mactel-support repo no longer supported or did something changed for latest Ubuntu?
[18:53] <Foulad> thats cool
[18:53] <Foulad> im new
[18:53] <Foulad> he he he
[18:53] <Detergentizer> AND I CREATED A 700GB / DISK
 thank you
[18:53] <mamece2> escott: u thinkg that with nomodeset i can fix the trident messy screen?
 yes
[18:54] <TheTrash> I added the repo but I'm not getting any package options.
[18:54] <escott> mamece2, honestly no, but you could try it
[18:54] <Sidewinder1> Foulad, We all were, at one time or another.
 how can i change my text color ?
 i dont like gray
[18:54] <Frogging101> Best linux video editor?
[18:54] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell Frogging101 about polls
[18:54] <mamece2> escott: ive googled it and theres a solution modifying xorg.conf but i dont find it, i dont have it in the /etc/X11 folder
[18:55] <Frogging101> Okay sorry
[18:55] <Frogging101> The unity sidebar is stuck on my screen and won't go away...
[18:55] <Sidewinder1> Frogging101, ffmpeg? Or perhaps Nero for linux; but it costs$.
[18:55] <escott> mamece2, by default you dont have one unless you run Xorg -configure and copy the generated file to /etc/X11
[18:55] <Jonii> why's moonlight not in software center?
[18:55] <mamece2> escott: where generated?
[18:55] <mamece2> escott: wheres generated?
[18:56] <escott> mamece2, it is generated in your current working directory
[18:56] <Foulad> guys what 10 apps should eveyone download ?
[18:56] <Jonii> moonlight does seem kinda worthwhile, and furthermore, it has been before
[18:56] <giuseppe_> ooo
[18:56] <Detergentizer> how is it pronounced?
[18:56] <Detergentizer> ohh-boo-too, or u-bun-too?
[18:57] <mamece2> escott: is there a way to find a file through CLI ? i mean a file by name in every folder
[18:57] <Detergentizer> ???
[18:57] <escott> mamece2, find /path -iname "*pattern*"
[18:57] <Jonii> mamece2: find?
[18:58] <mamece2> search
[18:58] <tnuc> meow
[18:58] <Detergentizer> ???
[18:58] <Detergentizer> HAVE U HEARD ME?
[18:58] <Jonii> mamece2: man find
[18:58] <Frogging101> Detergentizer: Ooh-Boon-Too
[18:58] <Frogging101> Detergentizer: Be patient please
[18:58] <Detergentizer> Oooooh-Boon-Too
[18:58] <Detergentizer> k, thanks
[18:58] <purpose> ikonia: 802.11 b/g/n; Bluetooth wireless networking... cannot find anything on a specific chipset number
[18:58] <yeats> Detergentizer: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:58] <Foulad> my first day with ubuntu
[18:58] <kpiqa> mamece2: or locate
[18:58] <tnuc> that sucks
[18:58] <Detergentizer> yeats I asked and no onw answered
[18:58] <Foulad> i though IRC dose not exist anymore
[18:59] <tnuc> you dont exist
[18:59] <mamece2> kpiqa: ok i need to do a global search for xorg.conf
[18:59] <Detergentizer> I have 4GB memory, so I created 5000MB swap
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> Its still strong :-)
[18:59] <ikonia> purpose: that's not going to be the card, you won't have a bluetooth wirless networking card in a compaq
[18:59] <oCean> Foulad: please be aware that this channel is for tech support only. Use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[18:59] <Detergentizer> I wanted to create no swap
[18:59] <oCean> tnuc: don't be silly
[18:59] <|Anthony|> what version of alsa is in 11.10
[18:59] <purpose> 	CQ57-260EP / CQ57-260SP : 802.11 b/g/nCQ57-202SI / CQ57-200EI / CQ57-200SI
 oh thank you
[18:59] <purpose> sorry...this must be it
[18:59] <tnuc> just as silly as billy the kid
 how can i change my font on Xchat ?
[19:00] <|Anthony|> anyone?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> Detergentizer: its needed for suspend / hibernate etc
[19:00] <yeats> !info alsa | |Anthony|
[19:00] <Detergentizer> k
[19:00] <Detergentizer> thankies
[19:00] <Jonii> why's moonlight not in software center?
[19:00] <|Anthony|> damn
[19:00] <Detergentizer> but i read that swap slows down yer system
[19:00] <|Anthony|> well ty yeats
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> |Anthony|: 1.0.24
[19:00] <Jonii> moonlight does seem kinda worthwhile, and furthermore, it has been in software center before
[19:00] <|Anthony|> you sure ActionParsnip
[19:00] <oCean> Foulad: menu Settings > Preferences > text box
[19:00] <purpose> ikonia: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/aa/en/ho/WF06a/321957-321957-3329742-89318-89318-5091489.html
[19:00] <yeats> |Anthony|: that must not be the actual name of the package - ubottu is very literal
[19:01] <Detergentizer> Oooooh-Boon-Too
[19:01] <mamece2> !windows
[19:01] <tnuc> how to change theme and side dock?
[19:01] <kpiqa> mamece2: locate xorg.conf
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> |Anthony|: packages.ubuntu.com will tell you
[19:01] <|Anthony|> oh yeah
[19:01] <mamece2> kpiqa: thx i will try it asap, im doing upgrade
[19:01] <Detergentizer> Ooooh-Boon-Too 11.10 comes with unity by default -- why not KDE ?
[19:01] <Detergentizer> should I install KDE and how to install it:
[19:01] <Gentoo64> thats why they have kubuntu
[19:01] <ikonia> purpose: interesting, the notes are suggesting there is no support for that card in Linux
[19:02] <oCean> Detergentizer: the kubuntu version = kde desktop
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> Detergentizer: use kubuntu instead
[19:02] <yeats> !kde | Detergentizer
[19:02] <escott> mamece2, if you are looking for the file generated by Xorg -configure it is in `pwd` unless you ran sudo Xorg -configure in which case it might be in /root
[19:02] <Jonii> anyone know? like, why was moonlight dropped?
[19:02] <Detergentizer> k
[19:02] <mamece2> escott: ive tried many time to maybe theres some xorg.conf lying around
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> Detergentizer: xubuntu uses xfce and lubuntu uses lxde
 ok
[19:02] <tnuc> yeah their were tnucs
[19:02] <jussi> So, I have a sketch of something I want to make a design of (motorbike). what programs would be suitable in ubuntu?
[19:02] <Detergentizer> i am thanking that kde is better because it has a longer history than unity --- I think
[19:03] <purpose> ikonia: nice!!! so im stuck with 11.10 which freezes but works out of box?
[19:03] <soreau> Jonii: novell laid off the developers that were working on it
[19:03] <kpiqa> mamece2: but locate is only updated periodically
[19:03] <Gentoo64> jussi, mypaint i thnk
[19:03] <ikonia> jussi: now I am interested
[19:03] <ikonia> purpose: does the whole OS freeze or networking freeze ?
[19:03] <kpiqa> mamece2: it's better find
[19:03] <mamece2> no one told me that xorg.conf would be created at the same folder i am
[19:03] <ikonia> purpose: if 11.10 can see the network there is obviously some support for it (despite what the documentation says)
 yes 11.10 freezes alot for me as well
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> Detergentizer: you just grabbed the gnome one, you can install a kde in ubuntu and select it at login
[19:03] <jussi> Gentoo64: more looking for somethign cad'ish, but simpler that can be used by a stupid person like me
[19:03] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[19:03] <Detergentizer> k.
[19:04] <Foulad> #bahrain
[19:04] <Jonii> soreau: does that mean theres no longer ubuntu version of silverlight?
[19:04] <purpose> ikonia: that is correct. i cannot interpret bug info but that does seem to be the source
[19:04] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> cant find my temp files anymore, anyone knows where they might be? if im watching utube there's always a .flv file in my tmp folder so i could save it. since i have ubuntu 10.10 i cant find them anymore, im on ff3
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: try unity2d session. Is it smoother
[19:04] <Detergentizer> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[19:05] <soreau> Jonii: It means development of moonlight has been halted
[19:05] <ikonia> purpose: what seems the source ?
 unity2d session for ?
[19:05] <ikonia> purpose: I asked if networking froze, or the whole system and you said "yes that is correct" - could you please try to read the question and answer
[19:05] <purpose> ikonia: thank you/ i will just reinstall 11.10 and deal with it until developers reallize it is a best selling laptop
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Detergentizer: if you want sure
[19:05] <jtokarchuk> Has anyone noticed when shutting down 11.10 on a laptop it seems to hang at a blank background screen instead of fully shutting off sometimes?
[19:05] <ikonia> purpose: whoaa, step back
[19:05] <Detergentizer> l
[19:05] <Detergentizer> k
[19:05] <ikonia> purpose: stop "blaming" developers, you don't even know what chipset it is
[19:06] <purpose> ikonia: the whole system. sorry. i am swamped
[19:06] <Sidewinder1> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd, You could also add the add-on/extention to Firefox; it's called "UnPlug."
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: instead of unity, unity2d. You choose it at login
[19:06] <Detergentizer> be nice if there was kubuntu-laptop optimized for laptop of course :D
[19:06] <ikonia> purpose: to help resolve this, when the system freezes, press the caps lock key, look if the light goes on/off when you press it
[19:06] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> Sidewinder1: i dont know about it, what is it? (itz just that it was so easy to save everything from the temp folder)
 Xchat login ?
[19:06] <Gentoo64> Detergentizer, should work fine
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Detergentizer: there is a kubuntu netbook remix afaik
[19:07] <purpose> ikonia: i stand corrected..just real put off and blinded by frustration
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: no when you log into the OS
[19:07] <Detergentizer> k thankies :D
 i will log off now and try it
[19:07] <ikonia> purpose: the best way to get help and problems resolved is not complaining about developers when a.) you've not been able to give any information b.) don't understand the problem c.) getting help from someone
[19:07] <Sidewinder1> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd, It downloads and saves streaming content; like videos and such.
[19:07] <lnb> personally if ubuntu doesn't go back to gnome2 they will loose a lot of users
[19:08] <ikonia> lnb: you can't go back to gnome2 - it's DEAD
[19:08] <Gentoo64> they wont go back, and they are losing users
[19:08] <ikonia> lnb: no distro will be using gnome2 shortly
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Lnb: gnome2 is dead
[19:08] <yeats> lnb: all the other distros are moving to GNOME3 too
[19:08] <Detergentizer> dumb question, isa apt-get better than software-center installer?
[19:08] <jussi> Gentoo64: ikonia, I guess IM looking for somethign similar to google sketch up
[19:08] <The_situation> Hi all
[19:08] <lnb> ikonia: i just installed latest debian amd64 and its just like ubuntu before 11.10
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Lnb: if you like gnome2, use xfce
[19:08] <purpose> ikonia: i stand corrected and will adjust attitude
[19:08] <ikonia> jussi: I have no idea as I never yes it
[19:08] <oCean> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: with a little trick, you can still find the downloaded flash vid
[19:08] <ikonia> lnb: it won't be for long
[19:09] <Gentoo64> i tried out mint 12 earlier in a vm, theyre doing much better job on the ui imo
[19:09] <ikonia> lnb: gnome2 is gone/dead/unmaintained,
[19:09] <Jonii> soreau: which would mean its not safe to run it, right?
[19:09] <lnb> ikonia: i hope you are wrong
[19:09] <ikonia> lnb: I'm not, read the gnome.org site
[19:09] <whoever> should bash files automaticly create a pid when they run? ie: my script runs festival but when i look for festival with ps awww it does not show all that comes up is bash and my irc client
[19:09] <lnb> ikonia: ok thats fine, then they should go to gnome3.5 and put it back the way it was
[19:09] <Sidewinder1> oCean, I just suggested that he add UnPlug to his Firefox. :D
[19:09] <The_situation> I've had enought of new ubuntu
[19:09] <ikonia> lnb: gnome 3.5 doesn't exist
[19:10] <oCean> Sidewinder1: or that :)
[19:10] <yeats> lnb: this may help you: https://github.com/Perberos/Mate-Desktop-Environment
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Lnb: there is a gnome2 fork called 'mate'. Gnome isn't the only DE
[19:10] <Detergentizer> i The_situation  i thought the 11.10 is ultimate ? why so sad?
[19:10] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> oCean: yeah how?
[19:10] <The_situation> can i put gome?
[19:10] <yeats> !nounity | The_situation
[19:10] <johnnywengluu> Is there a way to combine these two lines "wget <url>" and "unzip -od .vim <package>" into one?
[19:10] <lnb> whatever.  I read comments by a lot of people that absolutely disklike the new ubuntu
[19:11] <oCean> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: It's actually still downloaded in /tmp. You have to use lsof to find the fd in /proc, and then move it back. Example:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/750352/
[19:11] <johnnywengluu> pipe them together somehow?
[19:11] <Jonii> oh, and, how come ubuntu by default uses a lot of battery? what tools are needed to make it last as long as windows does?
[19:11] <Gentoo64> lnb, most people do
[19:11] <ikonia> lnb: so ? that doesn't mean gnome 3.5 exists or gnome 2 isn't dead, you need to accept it and choose how to move forward
[19:11] <lnb> i wiped it out and thank heaven i have 11.04
[19:11] <soreau> Jonii: No, you can run it but it might not work with latest firefox etc
[19:11] <Sidewinder1> The_situation, Why not just use 10.04? It's supported 'til 2013.
[19:11] <ikonia> lnb: I don't like unity, but I also understand that gnome2 is dead
[19:11] <The_situation> I'm sorry but I don't speak engliesh very good, I use ubuntu 11.10
[19:11] <oCean> johnnywengluu: use command1 && command2  to make command2 run after succesful completion of command1
[19:11] <escott> johnnywengluu, if you can make unzip read from a pipe sure, but i dont know that unzip will do that
[19:11] <drewis> 12.04 Precise all the way!
[19:11] <lnb> genoo64: if a lot of people hate it, what was in the developers minds????
[19:11] <lnb> rocks?
[19:11] <Gentoo64> idk
[19:12] <johnnywengluu> oCean: seems to be the simplest way
[19:12] <johnnywengluu> escott: yeah i didn't know that either
[19:12] <bastidrazor> when did this become a rant channel?
[19:12] <yeats> lnb: (this ot I know, but) you can use MATE on the new Linux Mint (not supported here -fyi)
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> johnnywengluu: replace the word and with a semicolon and drop the quotes ;-)
[19:12] <gorkin> hola
[19:12] <johnnywengluu> =)
[19:12] <Gentoo64> all the devs have to do is listen to the community
[19:12] <The_situation> sidewinder i know, but i wanna put gnome on 11.10
[19:12] <Foulad> i was thinking maybe one day we will be able to access our ubuntu using http like this demo www.ubuntu.com/tour/
[19:12] <The_situation> :-)
[19:12] <Foulad> somthing like citrix
[19:12] <johnnywengluu> ActionParsnip: perhaps && is better than since it iwll only run on success
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> Drewis: +1
[19:12] <Sidewinder1> !es | gorkin
[19:12] <lnb> gentoo64: i build servers and desktops for businesses, i have switched tons from windows to ubuntu, i have to now stop
[19:12] <jtokarchuk> Moderator: user llisa is sending me pornographic links on channel join.
[19:13] <gorkin> what do you think is the best distro of linux?
[19:13] <ikonia> jtokarchuk: thank you
[19:13] <lnb> i cannot beleive what they have done to themselves
[19:13] <ikonia> lnb: please stop
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> johnnywengluu: if you wish
[19:13] <lnb> ok, np
[19:13] <ikonia> lnb: if you don't like it, don't use it, it's that simple
[19:13] <escott> lnb, The_situation can you take the !ot complaints about gnome somewhere else. it gets really old
[19:13] <jtokarchuk> Thank you
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> gorkin: that is offtopic here
[19:13] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> oCean: u dont get it, i dont find the downloaded file
[19:14] <oCean> jtokarchuk: please remember that you can use #ubuntu-ops to report such activity. Thanks anyway
[19:14] <oCean> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: using lsof?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: are you intending to mp3 rip the video?
[19:14] <alexfpms> hi everybody :-) when i suspend my pc it doesn't wake up after so how can i fix it ?
[19:14] <The_situation> I'm sorry I don't know engliesh very good, who can give me italian channel?
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> !it
[19:15] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> ActionParsnip: nope
[19:15] <pangolin> !it
[19:15] <pangolin> The_situation: #ubuntu-it
[19:15] <The_situation> pangolin Thank you very much
[19:16] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> oCean: dont really get the process, with lsof i should grep a file "-i deleted" ??
[19:16] <usr13> pangolin: Looks like the bot is down at the moment
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: there are lots of extensions and addons for browsers as well as youtube-dl in the repos
[19:16] <oCean> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: exactly, as shown in step 2 in the example
[19:17] <The_situation> Italian channel seems dead
[19:18] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> oCean: KK LET ME TRY
[19:18] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> sorry
[19:19] <written> which webserver should i use for my ubuntu 11.10 root server?
[19:19] <written> lighttpd nginx?
[19:19] <ikonia> written: root server ?
[19:20] <alexfpms> does anyone have experience with a suspend issue on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[19:20] <ikonia> alexfpms: there have been suspend issues in linux for ages, epsecially around ati hardware
 me try unity2D
[19:21] <alexfpms> i have nvidia graphic card
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Yeah what is a root server
[19:21] <ikonia> Foulad: please don't make random suggestions
[19:21] <alexfpms> Foulad, i use gnome-shell
[19:21] <ikonia> Foulad: how is unity2d going to resolve his suspend issues
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: is the desktop smoother?
 for me seems better with 2D
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> written: do you mean a PDC?
 smoother i guess
[19:22] <alexfpms> ikonia, it seems to me that it begun happen when i installed this: http://paolobernardi.wordpress.com/2011/10/15/fix-plymouth-on-ubuntu-after-installing-nvidia-or-ati-proprietary-drivers-for-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric/
[19:22] <alexfpms> ikonia, but i'm not sure
[19:23] <ikonia> alexfpms: sorry that looks crazy
[19:23] <ikonia> alexfpms: you've installed something from a site written by a guy who says "I'm not using ubuntu, but I was told this script fixes things" - that's bonkers
[19:23] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> oCean: doesnt find it, or at least it doesnt find a .flv or flash file it's found 4 .log files...
[19:23] <Foulad> how can i add second keyboard language ?
[19:23] <ikonia> alexfpms: installing random things and scripts especially based around the propritary components is a fast track to disaster
[19:23] <alexfpms> ikonia, it is just a fix for Plymouth
[19:24] <ikonia> alexfpms: I can read what the site says,
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: sounds like the 3d-ness is causing the issue then. You may need to tweak settings in that way. Or stay on 2d
[19:25] <oCean> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: for me, this trick only works as long as the file is actually being downloaded. Maybe try Sidewinder1 suggestion Unplug firefox addon
[19:25] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> oCean: how do i find out where the temporary files are being downloaded?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: search dash for language.
 im new what do you mean by " search dash for language"
[19:25] <oCean> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: only by using "lsof -n | grep -i delet" - if nothing is listed, then my trick does not work for your download
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: files for what?
[19:26] <alexfpms> ikonia, the problem is when i installed nvidia driver i was not able use ttys and no more Plymouth
[19:26] <oCean> ActionParsnip: the downloaded flashfile. Usually you can still find it using lsof (since there is still a reference/filediscriptor in /proc)
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: press windows key, that is dash. Try researching a little
[19:26] <Foulad> -language
[19:26] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> ActionParsnip: uff... if im watching a youtube video it is actually downloading it to let me watch it. i want to know where, cuz itz not in tmp/ and itz not in ./mozilla/cache, where it is then?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Ocean: why bother, apps make all that easier.
[19:27] <alexfpms> and the script just installs "v86d" and "hwinfo"
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: you are making this really hard for yourself
[19:27] <The_situation> alexfpmsn the nvidia driver for what video card?
[19:27] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> ActionParsnip: ?_?
[19:27] <alexfpms> The_situation, yes
[19:27] <alexfpms> The_situation, for my video card
[19:28] <randomusr> how can i search for a particular section of a man page? perl for instance. I want perlintro but can't figure out how to get man to open it.
[19:28] <The_situation> alexfpms you tell me your video card moedl
[19:28] <The_situation> *model
[19:28] <The_situation> ?
[19:29] <alexfpms> The_situation, i have the same Plymouth issue since 10.04 i think. i have nVidia 480 GTX
[19:29] <Jonii> oh, and, how come ubuntu by default uses a lot of battery? what tools are needed to make it last as long as windows does?
[19:29] <jtokarchuk> Jonii: I found it was 3D effects, try unity2d
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: install youtube-dl and start a video playing. Copy fhe browser address bar and in terminal run:youtube-dl address
[19:29] <Jonii> powertop tunables allwed me to get an additional hour
[19:29] <alexfpms> The_situation, i mean nVidia GeForce GTX 480
[19:30] <The_situation> could be a problem of nvidia drivers
[19:30] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip, I suggested that he simply add UnPlug to Firefox, but I guess he didn't like that idea. :-(
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: i told you of youtube-dl earlier....
[19:31] <Jonii> jtokarchuk: i dont think its that
[19:31] <The_situation> alexfpms could be a problem of the nvidia drivers
[19:31] <Jonii> i tried ut earlier
[19:31] <Detergentizer> geez,
[19:31] <Detergentizer> insralling kubuntu is slow; it is very large down load'
[19:32] <alexfpms> The_situation, may be but that's why i'm here, i mean i'm looking for a solution (if it exists off course)
[19:33] <Sidewinder1> Detergentizer, Did you remember to Md5sum the ISO image, prior to installing?
[19:33] <sponix> need a bit of help, how do I tie a drive to a certain device name, such as my boot drive to /dev/sda ?
[19:33] <Detergentizer> Sidewinder1:  i'm using apt-get
[19:33] <mamece2> escott: theres no xorg.conf file in my pc, even when i did xorg -configure
[19:33] <Sidewinder1> Detergentizer, OIC. :D
[19:34] <alexfpms> Does anyone have a nVidia card here ? Does anyone have some issues with Plymouth and tty's when driver is installed ?
[19:34] <The_situation> alexfpmsn you can ask in a beautiful italian forum www.pierotofy.it you can speak engliesh altought it is in italian lenguagge
[19:35] <mamece2> escott: Xorg -configure failed
[19:35] <escott> mamece2, when you ran Xorg -configure what was the exact command you ran, and in what directory were you at the time
[19:35] <bastidrazor> sponix: if you need to make changes to your /etc/fstab then using UUID's would be the best way keep things constant
[19:35] <ikonia> The_situation: that is a programming forum, how will that help with Ubuntu software issues ?
[19:36] <mamece2> escott: im in /. vmware: unexpected failure while loading..
[19:36] <alexfpms> The_situation, i didn't get you :-S why do you want i speak "beautiful italian" ?
[19:36] <The_situation> there is the section ubuntu
[19:36] <alexfpms> The_situation, i don't even speak that language
[19:36] <escott> mamece2, if Xorg -configure is failing it probably isn't creating an Xorg.conf file
[19:37] <escott> sponix, sudo blkid
[19:37] <mamece2> escott: ive got it xorg.conf.new
[19:37] <Jonii> oh, and, how come ubuntu by default uses a lot of battery? what tools are needed to make it last as long as windows does?
[19:37] <mamece2> escott: inside /root/
[19:38] <The_situation> alexpms you can speak engliesh,  they answer in engliesh ;-)
[19:38] <alexfpms> The_situation, they have the answer ? i missed something ?
[19:38] <mamece2> escott: its a kinda complicated file, amirite?
[19:39] <The_situation> alexfpms, I don't know, try asking on pierotofy
[19:39] <escott> !info powertop | Jonii
[19:40] <escott> mamece2, not sure how to answer that. it is what it is
[19:40] <mamece2> escott: i did lspci and i know i have my trident in 02:09.0
[19:41] <sponix> escott: issue is I have one IDE drive that is my main OS drive, and at time it is /dev/sda, others it is /dev/sdf ... That hoses my VirtualBox setup for addressing things as raw disks .. Is there a way I can force a UUID to a certain device every time ?
[19:41] <escott> sponix, the uuids are not supposed to change they are saved inside the partition table
[19:42] <Jonii> escott: i know that and i've gotten an additional hour thanks to that, but theres still an hour missing
[19:42] <sponix> escott: I know, that is why I find it odd that they are.. the UUID's of the drives seem to stay the same, but my IDE boot drive is sometimes sda, and others sdf ..
[19:42] <escott> sponix, yes. thats normal
[19:42] <A|i3N> Is there any way to force dpkg to install a i386 .deb package onto a x64 system?
[19:42] <The_situation> alexfpms this is the linux section ;-) http://www.pierotofy.it/pages/extras/forum/7/
[19:43] <escott> A|i3N, with 11.10 apt-get install package:i386
[19:43] <sponix> escott: may be normal, but is there an easy way to avoid it from doing that.. as it is I have to recreate my VirtualBox raw disk pointers ever time I boot
[19:43] <A|i3N> how bout 10.04 - same thing?
[19:43] <ikonia> A|i3N: you don't want to do that
[19:43] <ikonia> A|i3N: 386 packages are designed for the 32bit system and will not install in the correct place/location on a 64bit system, that's why dpkg/apt stops you doing it
[19:44] <A|i3N> oh ok. It's just gimpshop, I have issues compiling it, maybe i can find a x64 deb package. :)
[19:44] <escott> sponix, no you cant change that behavior. use uuids like you are supposed to. there are uuid symlinks to your devices in /dev/disk/by-uuid
[19:44] <Jonii> i disabled usb and changed tunables
[19:44] <mamece2> escott: after the editing i should save it to /etc/X11/ right?
[19:45] <escott> mamece2, if you want to use it as your Xorg.conf yes
[19:46] <escott> A|i3N, with 10.04 its not possible to just install an i386 deb
[19:46] <sponix> escott: aww, you are saying when I create the Raw disk using UUID as well and it will solve my issue.. That isn't a half bad idea
[19:46] <Jonii> also, how come ubuntu is randomly pasting stuff when I type? no, its not touchpad, i dont touch it and that two finger tap doesnt work
[19:47] <A|i3N> ah ok.
[19:47] <A|i3N> thanks escott, ikonia
[19:47] <A|i3N> freakin` hate 64 bit lol
[19:47] <A|i3N> everything is written for i386
[19:47] <ikonia> A|i3N: then don't install it
[19:47] <ikonia> use 32bit
[19:48] <A|i3N> I didn't install but I'm thinking of backing up and redoing it LOL
[19:48] <mamece2> isnt 32 bit for noobs? thats what my friend told me
[19:48] <ikonia> mamece2: you're friend is a fool then
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> mamece2  please don't use the word 'noobs' here
[19:48] <A|i3N> I've also got CentOS dual booted on here and I don't use it so that'd free up some space.
[19:48] <mamece2> k
[19:49] <Jonii> anyone know what sort of stuff can make terminal + ubuntu paste stuff?
[19:49] <A|i3N> Jonii: xclip
[19:49] <whoever> anyone here use espeack? if so i need some help with voices
[19:49] <Jonii> A|i3N: saw my problem description?
[19:50] <A|i3N> Jonii - oops - no lol sorry just did
[19:51] <Jigal> hello i have installed netbeans in ubuntu but now i can't find it in mys shlash dot menu how can i start it then?
[19:51] <A|i3N> i asked that same question at one time that's why I said xclip :) I needed to pipe command output or a txt file through it to be able to paste it in the GUI
[19:51] <Jonii> any list of ways to paste stuff and how to disable those would be handy
[19:51] <sponix> escott: got an issue, can I mesg you a bit ?
[19:51] <Jigal> hello i have installed netbeans in ubuntu but now i can't find it in my dash home  menu how can i start it then?
[19:52] <escott> sponix, its best to ask in channel. im not very familiar with virtualbox
[19:52] <sponix> escott: just don't want to flood, issue is it posts the UUID on those 5 disk as being the same
[19:52] <batlock> running from the live usb, where is the usb mounted
[19:52] <escott> !paste | sponix
[19:53] <The_situation> jigal look for in home of the dash
[19:53] <batlock> like i want to copy data from the pc's hdd to the live usb
[19:53] <batlock> where's it mounted
[19:53] <mactrent> Jigal, Try ubdatedb as root, then look again.
[19:53] <sponix> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/759666/
[19:54] <bastidrazor> batlock: where is what mounted?
[19:54] <sponix> do I just move down to using the SUB ?
[19:54] <batlock> the live usb
[19:54] <mamece2> escott: it frozen right before starting bluetooth, how can io avoid that?
[19:54] <batlock> bastidrazor, you boot from the live usb, but only have that usb to recover data, where is it mounted so i can put the data on it
[19:54] <escott> sponix, so thats ZFS for you. the UUID sub-ids are unique
[19:54] <Mahmoud> hi folks - why is the linux-image-3.0.0-13-generic is thirty freaking seven mega bytes?
[19:55] <batlock> bastidrazor, i need to be able to plug this usb into a windows machine so i can transfer the files there
[19:55] <mactrent> Jigal, Or you could press <alt>F2, type netbeans, then pin it to Unity.
[19:55] <Detergentizer> is ubuntu african word?
[19:55] <batlock> bastidrazor, so i need to know, in the live envrionment, where is the USB mounted.
[19:55] <Detergentizer> it sounds african when pronounced
[19:55] <batlock> THE usb that has been used to boot from
[19:56] <mamece2> where are all the services that are going to be started at the booting? i want to disable bluettooth
[19:56] <escott> Detergentizer, south african yes
[19:56] <batlock> dammit why can't anyone in here ever just know things, it seems the real keepers of information have all left this channel
[19:56] <bekks> batlock: "mount".
[19:56] <mamece2> ^
[19:56] <batlock> lol
[19:56] <bekks> That will show you all mountpoints.
[19:57] <escott> batlock, and the internal hdd wont be mounted until you open it in nautilus
[19:57] <bastidrazor> batlock: your lack of patience is amusing. you gave me less than 30 seconds to respond. enjoy
[19:58] <mamece2> where are all the services that are going to be started at the booting? i want to disable bluettooth
[19:58] <escott> mamece2, how frozen is it? is the capslock key working? does the light come on
[19:58] <Jigal> mactrent, updating db now
[19:58] <bastidrazor> !upstart > mamece2 :will have more info here.
[19:58] <mamece2> i already turn it off, my mom is out and i need to go
[19:59] <Mahmoud> smart female http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxOVgUTxniw&feature=related
[19:59] <mamece2> c ya guys
[19:59] <Mahmoud> ops, wrong channel
[19:59] <mamece2> thx for all
[19:59] <Jonii> also, anyone know any good irc channels where I could get help with different problems I'm having with ubuntu?
[20:00] <Sidewinder1> Detergentizer, You might find this of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28philosophy%29
[20:00] <yeats> !alis | Jonii
[20:00] <aeon-ltd> Jonii: here...? what kind of problems?
[20:00] <mactrent> Jonii: ##linux might also have some general help.
[20:01] <ikonia> Jonii: this channel will deal with ubuntu support issues
[20:01] <Jonii> aeon-ltd: i asked four different questions here the last hour, none got solutions, all but one got no replies whatsoever
[20:02] <aeon-ltd> Jonii: ask again :) really though what are they?
[20:02] <ikonia> Jonii: what question did you not get an answer to
[20:02] <enparo> Hi. Has someone solved the dual monitor problem on ubuntu 11.10? Are the propietary driver the solution?
[20:02] <ikonia> Jonii: you got the moonlight question explained
[20:02] <ikonia> Jonii: you got the cut and paste question answered
[20:02] <stephan> hello.
[20:03] <Atlantic777> enparo: which GPU do you have?
[20:03] <stephan> my xfce-terminal shows in the titlebar "Terminal Terminal Terminal Terminal ... " and various more "Terminal" repeats. what's that?
[20:03] <batlock> so    mount only shows /dev/sda1 which is the hdd
[20:03] <batlock> i need the mountpoint of the usb
[20:03] <batlock> wait
[20:03] <enparo> I have a radeon HD 5400 series
[20:03] <mactrent> enparo: I had absolutely no problems with an old Optiplex at the school lab.
[20:03] <Cheesy> So...
[20:04] <mactrent> stephan: Does this happen when you start it from the command line>
[20:05] <Cheesy> What is ubuntu?
[20:05] <Cheesy> Sorry for sounding like a complete moron.
[20:05] <Atlantic777> !ubuntu
[20:05] <Jonii> the ones I remember now are ubuntu + terminal(ssh + irssi) randomly pastes text when I try to type, and ubuntu uses around 25% more power than windows
[20:06] <Jonii> aeon-ltd
[20:06] <Cheesy> Ah.
[20:06] <Jonii> then...
[20:06] <Cheesy> I don't have Linus, though.
[20:06] <Cheesy> Linux*
[20:06] <aeon-ltd> Jonii: power? define
[20:06] <stephan> mactrent: i dunno i will test
[20:06] <Cheesy> I have windows. xD
[20:06] <Jigal> mactrent, updatedb didn't work
[20:06] <Gumby> hi all.  how does one create a stock xorg.conf?  I have X, however it is not displaying at the correct resolution for my LCD nor will it allow me to select that resolution.  I was hoping to create an xorg.conf and manually enter the settings but I don't have one to edit, and I am not sure of the defaults.
[20:06] <aeon-ltd> Jonii: as in literally power draw from the battery/psu?
[20:06] <mactrent> Jigal, As in, it still didn't find it?
[20:06] <Atlantic777> Cheesy: what are you waiting for? Try ubuntu...
[20:07] <Jonii> instead of 5,5h, i get around 4h of battery time
[20:07] <Jigal> it is still not in my menu
[20:07] <Cheesy> I can't right now.
[20:07] <Jigal> mactrent,
[20:07] <batlock> would i be looking for this " /cow on / type overlayfs"
[20:07] <Cheesy> I don't have enough RAM.
[20:07] <Atlantic777> Gumby: Xorg -configure
[20:07] <Sidewinder1> Cheesy, Have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29
[20:07] <batlock> or does no one know where the usb mounts to when you boot from it via live mode?
[20:07] <Atlantic777> Cheesy: how much you have?
[20:07] <mactrent> Jigal, Ok, open up the terminal and type 'which netbeans', the tell me what shows up.
[20:07] <Cheesy> If I could try it, I would.
[20:07] <batlock> cuse it sure seems that way
[20:07] <Jonii> before tweaking powertop, i got less than 3h
[20:07] <Cheesy> I have about 500 mb.
[20:07] <Cheesy> It's insanely bad.
[20:08] <escott> batlock, do you have a persistent usb
[20:08] <Ndjdje> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[20:08] <aeon-ltd> Jonii: there is really no way to change that without changing mass amounts of the system (but if you don't like it we can run through that) - running compiz/unity/gnome is almost the same as win7 with most of aero enabled
[20:08] <Atlantic777> batlock: enough for lubuntu...
[20:08] <Jigal> mactrent, nothing
[20:08] <Atlantic777> !lubuntu | Cheesy
[20:08] <Sidewinder1> Cheesy, You only need 384 meg of RAM for ubuntu desktop.
[20:08] <Ndjdje> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[20:08] <batlock> Atlantic777, ??
[20:08] <enparo> So, any problem with the dual monitor on ubuntu 11.10?. I have read many places where people has the same problem, but not the solution
[20:08] <Cheesy> I have a virus also and I can't keep downloading stuff.
[20:08] <Cheesy> It's also not my desktop.
[20:08] <aeon-ltd> Cheesy: heh with ubuntu server and standalone openbox you could boot to under 100mb
[20:08] <li_noca> hi!
[20:09] <li_noca> hallo
[20:09] <aeon-ltd> Cheesy: or other OSes, i'm running arch with dwm with only 512mb i boot to 40-50mb
[20:09] <Atlantic777> +1
[20:09] <batlock> can anyone tell me where the usb stick mounts when you boot via live usb?
[20:09] <mactrent> Jigal, That's not good.  Try this: 'll /usr/bin|grep netbeans', where the thing between 'bin' and 'grep' is not a letter L.
[20:09] <batlock> i need to put data on it and can't find it
[20:10] <batlock> mount shows  /cow on / but i don't thinks this is it
[20:10] <Jonii> oh, i got a response to silverlight question, though i didnt get an answer to the question of if theres any version of silverlight for ubuntu thats still developed
[20:10] <Atlantic777> batlock: how much partitions you've got on that flash drive?
[20:10] <escott> batlock, can you please !paste your entire mount output. also please confirm you made a persistent liveusb with usb-creator-gtk
[20:10] <Atlantic777> Jonii: asc m$ guys. :D
[20:10] <Jigal> mactrent, same result : nothing
[20:10] <batlock> no i can't
[20:10] <Jigal> mactrent, but i did install it
[20:11] <batlock> can't paste, box has no internet
[20:11] <batlock> plus it's not physically here
[20:11] <batlock> Atlantic777, one
[20:11] <batlock> Atlantic777, used lili to install it on the usb
[20:11] <Jigal> mactrent, it's on a virtualbox machine
[20:11] <batlock> if you tell me that i can't put it there, i'mma just set root=(usb0,msdos1) and see what happens
[20:11] <Jonii> aeon-ltd: so ubuntu is by design significantly worse than windows when it comes to power management?
[20:11] <Atlantic777> batlock: don't know, I always make one more partition for data...
[20:11] <Cheesy> If I ever get a laptop, I'll try it, but at this moment, I don't think it's best.
[20:12] <mactrent> Jigal, I'd install it on my system to troubleshoot, but I'm running out of space on this partition.  The fact that it's a virtual machine shouldn't have anything to do with it.
[20:12] <Gumby> thanks Atlantic777
[20:12] <Gumby> I appreciate the help
[20:12] <atpa8a> hello
[20:12] <Jigal> mactrent, ok. how can i find the executable to run?
[20:12] <escott> batlock, its possible you created a non-persistent usb in which case you cannot save files on that usb stick. if you created a persistent on then you could try and put files in $HOME and see if they persist or try to find the fat32 partition and put files there. not sure what is preferred
[20:13] <batlock> now can i mount hte same drive to two different mount points?
[20:13] <aeon-ltd> Jonii: no/yes ubuntu or linux has never been great at power management for laptops, you could strip it down so cpu usage is at minimal when doing things like browsing, talking but using plugins like flash is gonna cripple it (it's pretty much the same for macs flash and other plugins reduce battery life massively)
[20:13] <bekks> batlock: by using mount -o bind
[20:13] <batlock> i found it's /dev/sdb1 on /cdrom
[20:13] <randomusr> !perl | randomusr
[20:13] <batlock> cool
[20:13] <enparo> quit
[20:14] <raffamaiden> hi. I have ubuntu 11. How can I add new software to the "open with list" that appear in right click->proprerty?
[20:14] <mactrent> Jigal, 'find / 2> /dev/null|grep netbeans' should show everything containing 'netbeans'.  I'm afraid that's all I have.
[20:14] <raffamaiden> in the open with tab I mean
[20:14] <atpa8a> getting 'no space left on device' but there's space on all drives. any idea?
[20:14] <escott> !info alacarte | raffamaiden
[20:14] <Jonii> aeon-ltd: i know that, that 4h is assuming im not doing anything related to audio or video or flash or anything
[20:14] <escott> atpa8a, what program is giving you this error message, what are you trying to do at the time
[20:15] <Jigal> mactrent, what's the extension of the executable
[20:15] <atpa8a> escott: apt-get -f install (after dist-upgrade)
[20:15] <mactrent> Jigal, Since Unix doesn't need extensions, there usually isn't one.
[20:15] <Jonii> its more like 2,5h if anything other than text editing is done
[20:15] <raffamaiden> @escott: its 40MB big!
[20:15] <escott> atpa8a, and you can confirm there is space with df -h
[20:15] <Cheesy> So, I heard they want to censor the internet. How do you guys and gals feel about that?
[20:16] <mactrent> Jigal, And I highly doubt netbeans would want one.
[20:16] <Jigal> ok
[20:16] <aeon-ltd> Jonii: but are you running compiz/unity or any kind of compositing special effects applications? also daemons/services in the background
[20:16] <escott> raffamaiden, alacarte is only 348k. if you are using kubuntu use the kde version of the menu editor
[20:16] <atpa8a> escott: yup
[20:16] <myrmidette> I'm trying to get my history to ignore stuff I run multiple times in a row and have run into a problem
[20:16] <Atlantic777> Cheesy: this is ubuntu support chan, please ask ubuntu related questions.
[20:16] <Sidewinder1> !ot | Cheesy
[20:16] <Jonii> compiz yes
[20:16] <Cheesy> Oh.
[20:16] <Cheesy> Sorry.
[20:16] <Sidewinder1> :D
[20:17] <Jonii> is that bad?
[20:17] <atpa8a> escott: highest in-use is 36%
[20:17] <escott> atpa8a, what are you trying to install
[20:17] <Cheesy> Isn't there a chat for 'chatting'?
[20:17] <myrmidette> here's my output
[20:17] <escott> !ot | Cheesy
[20:17] <myrmidette> andrey@spider ~ $ sudo export HISTCONTROL=erasedups
[20:17] <myrmidette> sudo: export: command not found
[20:17] <aeon-ltd> Jonii: next time you are at full charge try running without compiz
[20:17] <raffamaiden> @ecott: cannot do that. I do not want to add a program in the main menu
[20:17] <raffamaiden> I want to open all exe files with mono
[20:17] <atpa8a> escott: linux-image and linux-headers
[20:17] <escott> myrmidette, its not a command, its a bash builtin
[20:17] <Sidewinder1> Cheesy, Yes, just join #ubuntu-offtopic.
[20:17] <myrmidette> oh
[20:17] <escott> myrmidette, what you mean to do is edit /root/.bashrc
[20:17] <Jonii> aeon-ltd: i can check it with powertop
[20:18] <aeon-ltd> Jonii: it's likely to help, it's another thing for the cpu to do so yeah it probably does reduce battery life
[20:18] <escott> atpa8a, sounds like you dont have space on your /boot partition
[20:18] <raffamaiden> I select an exe file, right click on it, select property, and then the open with tab, but mono is not in the list
[20:18] <Jonii> how to disable it?
[20:18] <myrmidette> the tutorial lists it as a command :(
[20:18] <bekks> raffamaiden: You cannot open .exe files with mono.
[20:18] <atpa8a> escott: /boot is on / really
[20:18] <Jonii> whats compiz anyway?
[20:19] <aeon-ltd> Jonii: something like - alt-f2 'metacity --replace'
[20:19] <escott> myrmidette, well its technically not, nor is what you would be doing sensible. you would start a bash shell export the variable and then close the bash shell without ever doing anything
[20:19] <aeon-ltd> !compiz | Jonii
[20:19] <raffamaiden> @bekks: why, I can from the command line
[20:19] <aeon-ltd> Jonii: well it handles special effects and window management for ubuntu by default
[20:19] <batlock> ok anyone really know live usb environment?
[20:19] <mactrent> Jonii, You'll need a 'sudo' in that statement ^
[20:19] <batlock> it says /dev/sdb1 is mounted on /cdrom
[20:19] <escott> atpa8a, are you sure you are reading df -h correctly?
[20:19] <batlock> but when we try to -o bind it to /media/usbdisk   it says 'cannot find /dev/sdb1'
[20:20] <raffamaiden> anyway, I just want to add a software that there isn't to the open with tab
[20:20] <atpa8a> escott: :) yes
[20:20] <escott> batlock, bind the mountpoint to the mountpoint
[20:20] <bekks> batlock: according to man mount it should be like this: mount -o bind /cdrom /media/usbdisk
[20:20] <atpa8a> Filesystem    Type    Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[20:20] <atpa8a> /dev/vda1    btrfs     11G  3.2G  5.6G  36% /
[20:20] <batlock> frack
[20:20] <batlock> okay
[20:21] <batlock> can we do -o rw ?
[20:21] <escott> atpa8a, ahhh butter-fs. you need to read the btfs wiki. df -h is not accurate for butter
[20:21] <msergiu80> I have an ubuntu server 11.04 text mode only installed in a vm
[20:21] <batlock> becks can we do -o rw ?
[20:21] <bekks> batlock: No.
[20:21] <atpa8a> hmm
[20:21] <msergiu80> it starts at 640 resolution
[20:21] <batlock> that's not helpful then
[20:21] <atpa8a> really?..
[20:21] <escott> batlock, you most likely dont have space for the metadata
[20:21] <batlock> i need to be able to write to the usb stick
[20:21] <msergiu80> is there any way Ican start at a higher resolution?
[20:21] <batlock> 16gb usb disk better have space
[20:22] <escott> atpa8a, not batlock sorry. btrfs manages metadata and data separately df -h does not understand this
[20:22] <escott> atpa8a, you may need to rebalance
[20:22] <atpa8a> hmm
[20:22] <atpa8a> ok
[20:22] <batlock> ooh
[20:22] <atpa8a> reading
[20:22] <batlock> lol
[20:22] <atpa8a> thanks
[20:22] <msergiu80> ?
[20:22] <batlock> bekks, so how can i write to /dev/sdb1 (the live usb) while i'm in the live env?
[20:23] <mactrent> msergiu80, I believe that would be up to your virtual machine manager - it tells the operating system what hardware it has.
[20:23] <msergiu80> there is no mention of that in vmserver
[20:23] <escott> batlock, how did you make this live usb?
[20:23] <msergiu80> though in vmware workstation I remember being able to specify
[20:23] <batlock> LILI
[20:24] <batlock> and it's not me, i'm tryin to help someone else
[20:24] <questions>  i am sorry to ask again but i got side-tracked and did not write down the answer to this question. can anyone tell me how to set the system to lock the screen after 2 1/2 hours at a terminal or in oneric/unity?
[20:24] <escott> batlock, i would just save something to $HOME and see if it is persisted
[20:24] <[clay]> is there a default installed vnc server in ubuntu 11.10?
[20:24] <escott> batlock, i dont know a thing about LILI, but that cow overlay is suggestive
[20:24] <mactrent> msergiu80, I'm afraid I don't know about vmserver, as I'm used to VirtualBox.
[20:25] <batlock> but we need to be able to just plug it into a windows box to copy
[20:25] <bekks> [clay]: none you would like to use :)
[20:25] <[clay]> bekks, lol i think i have one installed and i need to start it via command line, but i can't remember what it is
[20:25] <escott> batlock, that may not be possible. but you could boot the livecd and then copy from the livecd to windows
[20:25] <bekks> [clay]: "vncserver".
[20:25] <[clay]> nope
[20:26] <[clay]> what's a good one i can install?
[20:26] <bekks> 1204 212545 < bekks> [clay]: "vncserver".
[20:26] <escott> batlock, whether or not you can save to the fat32 partition underlying the usb depends on how lili configures stuff. we don't even know if there is a fat32 partition
[20:26] <msergiu80> thx anyway
[20:26] <[clay]> i thought you were saying that's not a good one to use :D
[20:26] <mactrent> [clay], I'd recommend TeamViewer for its extra features - it's not in the repositories, but at teamviewer.org.
[20:27] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[20:27] <bekks> mactrent: The missing killer feature of teamviewer is that you cant tunnel it through ssh.
[20:27] <Jonii> metacity seems to lack most of the functionality you need for basic navigation in windowed environment :/
[20:28] <mactrent> bekks, Good point.  I'll have to look into that...
[20:28] <mactrent> Jonii, That's why Ubuntu's default is now Compiz.
[20:28] <Lunar_Lander> I got a short question on the ubuntu forums if that is OK?
[20:28] <batlock> escott, thx that's probably what we're going to do
[20:29] <batlock> THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR THE HELP I'M SORRY I WAS IMPATIENT
[20:29] <Lunar_Lander> I got a connection to a place in Estonia there, but this seems to be mystatus.skype.com
[20:29] <Lunar_Lander> so that is OK?
[20:29] <delitti> test
[20:29] <escott> Lunar_Lamp, are you running skype?
[20:29] <Lunar_Lander> no, not at the moment
[20:29] <Lunar_Lander> but I got it installed
[20:30] <Lunar_Lander> it seems to be when a person has a skype button in the forums
[20:30] <Lunar_Lander> and that is loaded from mystatus.skype.com
[20:31] <questions> does anyone know how to set the screen to lock after longer than 1 hour on unity, probably using the terminal?
[20:31] <escott> Lunar_Lamp, ok. so its the browser calling in to skype.com. if you sit there and monitor all the places your browser will call into when you are browsing the web its scary
[20:31] <LycoLoco> hi all! I'm wondering if ubuntu has a backup program in a similar vein to Fedora's "sosreport" that collects what kernel is running, what drivers are loaded, and various configuration files for common services.
[20:31] <Lunar_Lander> escott: yeah and according to robtex, mystatus.skype.com is indeed in estonia
[20:31] <escott> questions, have you checked dconf/gconf/gsettings?
[20:31] <LycoLoco> and puts them into a tar/tar.gz archive?
[20:31] <Lunar_Lander> and skype seems to hav e a place there
[20:31] <questions> escott, thank you
[20:31] <Lunar_Lander> do you mean me or Lyco escott=
[20:31] <Lunar_Lander> oh sorry
[20:32] <Lunar_Lander> :P
[20:32] <Lunar_Lander> I didn't know that someone in here is named questions
[20:32] <root_____> How can I install a mp3 codec???
[20:32] <Lunar_Lander> thank you escott, I am still paranoid from my Windows days although I was told that ubuntu can't get a virus and so on
[20:32] <escott> Lunar_Lander, yeah. not the best name. right up there with ubuntu
[20:32] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[20:33] <escott> Lunar_Lamp, well its not so much that it can't but that its not really a target
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander> but ubuntu isn't invincible when I red it right
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander> *read
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander> also, earlier, Pidgin dropped out of ICQ connection
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander> and that was scary too
[20:33] <LycoLoco> Lunar_Lander: have you read Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?
[20:33] <mactrent> Lunar_Lander, No operating system can fully protect itself from its users.
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander> is it paranoid to run terminal, xterm (with netstat and ifconfig) and wireshark?
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:34] <Lunar_Lander> LycoLoco: no, sorry
[20:34] <LycoLoco> Lunar_Lander: just remember, DON'T PANIC :)
[20:34] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[20:34] <OerHeks> root_____, install restricted extras from softwarecentre
[20:34] <_johnny> hi, i'm running my own CA (for internal use in my company), and for fun i've been meaning to get EV on certain domains to get green bars with names (like https://github.com/ has). i've added businessCategory and a few others, and they're in the signed certificate - however it doesn't display. so: can anyone verify that this is the right way, or am i barking up the wrong tree? :)
[20:35] <OerHeks> root_____, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[20:35] <escott> _johnny, the proper way to get a CA certificate these days seems to be hacking into a CA server. have you tried that? but seriously this may not be the best channel for that question. maybe ask in an apache channel or the server channel
[20:35] <root_____> I do not have software center I am on backtrack
[20:35] <escott> !backtrack | root_____
[20:35] <bekks> root_____: We dont support backtrack in here.
[20:36] <escott> !rootirc | root_____
[20:36] <OerHeks> sorry root_____  not supported here
[20:36] <root_____> The back track channel is empty
[20:36] <_johnny> escott: thanks, i've been looking for the ubuntuserver channel, but it seems to be empty. do you know a proper one i can try?
[20:36] <bekks> Phillip1: We dont care about that :)
[20:36] <escott> !alis | _johnny, i think it is #ubuntu-server
[20:36] <Lunar_Lander> btw talking about panic LycoLoco and escott, yesterday I noticed a connection that was caused by banshee and later found out that it probably just was asking at last.fm
[20:36] <Phillip1> Do you guys hate backtrack or something?
[20:36] <_johnny> escott: thanks :)
[20:37] <[Xaronic]> Phillip1, these people dont hate it, they just dont support it
[20:37] <[Xaronic]> It's not their software
[20:37] <mactrent> Phillip1, I certainly don't.  It's just not made to be sustainable.
[20:37] <[clay]> mactrent, dumb question, how do i get vncserver to start up with the unity desktop or whatever it is
[20:37] <velociostrich> I'm having trouble getting gnome-settings-daemon to work in my FVWM session since I went and screwed around with some packages in synaptic. Gnome-settings-daemon is still installed, but when I try to run it, it says "The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files"
[20:37] <escott> Phillip1, yesterday a guy came in here running FreeBSD. what exactly does he expect us to do? its not our OS, and neither is bt
[20:38] <velociostrich> I don't know jack about dbus or how to fix this
[20:38] <escott> velociostrich, sounds like gnome-session is not installed/not running
[20:39] <mactrent> [clay], Use the dash to find Startup Applications, then you can manually add an entry there.
[20:39] <velociostrich> escott: That's all I could make of it, and I installed gnome-session and even rebooted but to no avail
[20:39] <[clay]> mactimes, it's a headlesss system ;\
[20:39] <OerHeks> Phillip1, if you are smart to use backtrack, you wouldn't ask for a mp3-codec
[20:39] <Phillip1> Backtrack will use the same commands
[20:40] <escott> velociostrich, you are in a weird position. you are trying to run dbus, gnome-session, but you want fvwm as your WM
[20:40] <Phillip1> I just want to know how I can install mp3 playback with apt-get install
[20:40] <mactrent> [clay], Then how would they even get to Unity?  Autologin?
[20:40] <bekks> Phillip1: It isnt our distro, we dont support it.
[20:40] <hsmod> anyone know much about ssh x forward?  I'm ssh x forwarding firefox from one oneiric to another over the net, i'm using the '-X -C -c blowfish-cbc,arcfour ' optimization and i don't think it's the network that's causing the slowness because ANYTHING i do locally on my workstation becomes slow.  such as even typing in irc channel
[20:40] <[clay]> mactrent, heck if i know. nevermind anyway, i figured out how to do what i needed w/ command line
[20:40] <[Xaronic]> http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/mzwia/under_sopa_you_could_get_5_years_for_uploading_a/
[20:40] <[Xaronic]> wow
[20:40] <mactrent> Phillip1, I'd use VLC - it'll look for the plugins for you.
[20:40] <LycoLoco> Lunar_Lander: heh, I can understand that, I've worried about connections before that shouldn't have been there that turned out to be completely harmless
[20:40] <Lunar_Lander> LycoLoco: yeah
[20:40] <mactrent> Phillip1, I'd use VLC - it'll look for the plugins for you.
[20:41] <Phillip1> VLC Is not opening at all for some reason.
[20:41] <velociostrich> escott: I'm not trying to run gnome-session, just gnome-settings-daemon. I have done this successfully on the latest Ubuntu and for years prior. I don't know what I did in installing/removing packages, but I can't get gnome-settings-daemon to work.
[20:41] <Phillip1> How can I uninstall programs?
[20:41] <Lunar_Lander> LycoLoco: you see, this summer I got a trojan alert by AdAware which caused me to wipe the HDD and that caused a neverending story
[20:41] <mactrent> [clay], That's cool.  How'd you do it, SSH -X?
[20:41] <Lunar_Lander> I think I wiped and reinstalled Windows about six times since July
[20:41] <Jigal> mactrent, I have installed it again
[20:42] <Lunar_Lander> just because I thought I caught something by mistyping an URL or so
[20:42] <Jigal> but still no solution mactr
[20:42] <escott> velociostrich, what version of ubuntu are you running
[20:42] <Jigal> mactrent,
[20:42] <velociostrich> escott: 11.10
[20:42] <Lunar_Lander> and then I decided to go to ubuntu LycoLoco
[20:42] <LycoLoco> Lunar_Lander: what kind of never ending story?
[20:42] <LycoLoco> ahh
[20:42] <mactrent> Jigal, And how's it work now?
[20:42] <Lunar_Lander> my parents also said I am paranoid
[20:42] <Phillip1> Although I am using backtrack, can I stay in this IRC to help people?
[20:42] <Jigal> mactrent, it still does not appear in the menu
[20:42] <Jigal> should i reboot first?
[20:42] <velociostrich> escott: It worked up until I made those changes. I was attempting to remove some superfluous (mainly unity-related) packages. Do you know of a package list for a clean install that perhaps I could compare mine to?
[20:43] <escott> velociostrich, there is a change with the gnome settings. the backend is switched to dconf from gconf, and there is this gsettings utility which is new
[20:43] <LycoLoco> well you'er right that linux is going to be more secure from the ground up than windows is....but just remember, if you open ports and run services you don't need, you could be in just as bad of a situation
[20:43] <Lunar_Lander> yeah LycoLoco
[20:43] <mactrent> Jigal, At this point I'd say yes, though I don't know that it'd do anything.  Any more input from the rest of the channel?
[20:43] <Lunar_Lander> and when I just go on Firefox and pidgin and thunderbird?
[20:44] <escott> velociostrich, the package list for a clean install is ubuntu-desktop. what unity stuff were you removing?
[20:44] <mankand007> hi all... i tried syncing my ipod shuffle with banshee, and it appears to be succcessful, but nothing gets reflected in my device... please help...
[20:44] <velociostrich> escott: Plenty, like the overlay scrollbars, unity2d, unity related libraries, etc., which tries to install gnome-shell, which I avoided somehow. I thought I had removed most of the cruft before but there were a few packages that I then tried to remove. That was perhaps two hours ago, and since then I've been having trouble getting thins to work again.
[20:45] <raffamaiden> How can I add a software to the open with menu
[20:45] <raffamaiden> ?
[20:45] <velociostrich> escott: I did accidentally remove the lightdm greeter package not realizing what it was and had some difficulty reinstalling it (but it works now)
[20:45] <milen8204> Hов то мake Gnome Keyboard Indicator Show Country Flags in Ubuntu 11.10 anyone can help me ?
[20:45] <Lunar_Lander> ah I got a question there LycoLoco and escott: My update manager is set to something like display important updates daily and recommended updates weekly and I noticed that there are important updates when the symbol of the update manager shortly appeared on the left side of the screen
[20:45] <raffamaiden> I want to launch a command line command when I double click on a kdbx file
[20:46] <Lunar_Lander> however I was told that a red or orange exclaimation mark will appear in the top bar
[20:46] <milen8204>  *How to make Gnome Keyboard Indicator Show Country Flags in Ubuntu 11.10 anyone can help me ?
[20:46] <Lunar_Lander> is ths in 11.10?
[20:46] <escott> velociostrich, im not sure what to tell you. you obviously broke something. unless your hard drive is running out of space what exactly is the problem with having stuff installed if you dont use it. and the correct way to disable those scrollbars is to use an environment variable
[20:46] <Lunar_Lander> or is that for 10.4?
[20:46] <LycoLoco> Lunar_Lander: personally I like using apt-get update to get my updates, and I'm not currently on 11.10, so I'm not entirely sure
[20:46] <LycoLoco> you could fire up a VM if you wanted to find out though
[20:46] <mankand007> hi all... i tried syncing my ipod shuffle with banshee, and it appears to be succcessful, but nothing gets reflected in my device... please help...
[20:46] <Lunar_Lander> ah OK
[20:46] <Lunar_Lander> LycoLoco: VM with 10.4?
[20:46] <diesch> raffamaiden: you need to create a .desktop file for it
[20:47] <mankand007> i have ubuntu 11.10
[20:47] <LycoLoco> Lunar_Lander: yeah, althoguh it sounds like mankand007 might be able to check for you if he's willing
[20:47] <velociostrich> escott: I was unaware of the environment variable, and yes, disk space is a bit of an issue. (I don't need to be told how cheap HD's are these days, though). I don't know a thing about dbus, or I wouldn't be asking
[20:47] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:47] <Phillip1> Hey
[20:47] <Lunar_Lander> I got 11.10 too
[20:47] <klj613> how do i remove a symbolic link ?
[20:48] <velociostrich> escott: I can't find any real information on D-Bus besides high level talk. I don't know how its configured or anything
[20:48] <__TALISH__> HEY
[20:48] <mankand007> it works fine with gtkpod, but i wish it would work with banshee....
[20:48] <[Xaronic]> velociostrich, HDD's arn't cheap atm, with the floods etc
[20:48] <Lunar_Lander> mankand007: what signals do you get when updates are available?
[20:48] <mactrent> klj613, You can either do rm like a normal file, or unlink.
[20:48] <klj613> mactrent: thanks, wanted to make sure as i dont want it to cascade over to the source of the symlink
[20:48] <Shshgsts> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[20:49] <mankand007> Lunar_Lander: i'm sorry there's a confusion.. i'm talking about my ipod shuffle...
[20:49] <escott> velociostrich, the complexity in dbus is in the interaction between applications, not dbus itself. so understanding it means understanding all the interactions between all the applications
[20:49] <raffamaiden> @diesch: can you point me in the right direction? Only found instruction to add software to the main menus
[20:49] <Shshgsts> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[20:49] <velociostrich> [Xaronic]: That's odd, you're right -- they do seem to be twice as expensive atm
[20:49] <Lunar_Lander> oh ok mankand007
[20:49] <__TALISH__> How can I run windows inside ubuntu?
[20:49] <mactrent> klj613, Right.  In the help for rm, it specifies how you could follow the link, but that's not the default.  Good question.
[20:49] <escott> raffamaiden, there is a desktop-file-install utility if you dont want to use alacart
[20:50] <mankand007> can anybody help me with my ipod shuffle sync problem with banshee...?
[20:50] <hsmod> anyone else know how i can X forward to my workstaiton without it slowing down the entire computer?
[20:50] <[Xaronic]> velociostrich, the floods in thailand stopped production. So prices sky rocketed
[20:50] <milen8204> How to make Gnome Keyboard Indicator Show Country Flags in Ubuntu 11.10 anyone can help me ?
[20:50] <mactrent> __TALISH__, Try the Ubuntu installer, Wubi.exe.  You can get it from Ubuntu.com
[20:50] <qmanjr5> How would I update iOS for my iPod on Ubuntu? I'm using Banshee as my media player
[20:50] <escott> hsmod, how much cpu load is the ssh process adding
[20:50] <hsmod> hsmod, it's about 25%-50%
[20:50] <[Xaronic]> qmanjr5, you can't. Only iTunes lets you do it. Unless itunes can run in wine
[20:50] <Sidewinder1> !wine | __TALISH__
[20:50] <mankand007> qmanjr5, i don't think that's possible..
[20:50] <qmanjr5> ....
[20:50] <qmanjr5> Are you both serious right now?
[20:50] <hsmod> escott, it's about 25-50% used by compiz
[20:50] <velociostrich> escott: Well, I don't understand why gnome-settings-daemon would report that gnome-session "was not provided by any .service files". I don't know what those .service files are or where they might be, but I do know that I have gnome-session-bin installed. I don't know if perhaps I need that daemon running as well; I don't know what those .service files provide
[20:50] <escott> qmanjr5, you would boot windows or mac and update from the apple program
[20:51] <hsmod> oh the ssh process specifically, is not taking much
[20:51] <qmanjr5> Wow....
[20:51] <qmanjr5> Well then, I'll be back I guess. :\ Can I at least sync music with it?
[20:51] <escott> hsmod, compiz should not be using that much cpu. thats your problem. and this is only triggered by forwarding?
[20:51] <raffamaiden> @escott: cann find the way to use alacarte to do what I want. It seems alacarte is only able to modify the main menus
[20:51] <[Xaronic]> Yeh qmanjr5
[20:51] <mactrent> mankand007, I'm afraid Apple keeps updating their protocols simply so program slike Banshee can't work with them.
[20:51] <qmanjr5> [Xaronic], thanks
[20:51] <raffamaiden> I want to add a software to the "open with" menu
[20:52] <diesch> raffamaiden: http://askubuntu.com/questions/72535/creating-desktop-files-to-use-on-the-open-with-other-application-tab
[20:52] <mankand007> mactrent.. it's working with gtkpod..
[20:52] <raffamaiden> I want to open kdbx files with KeePass
[20:52] <Sidewinder1> !rootirc | __TALISH__
[20:52] <raffamaiden> But keepass is not in the menu
[20:52] <mactrent> mankand007, Then they have a more recent protocol.
[20:52] <mankand007> mactrent: hmm..
[20:52] <Lunar_Lander> ah yeah LycoLoco how do I avoid running something as root?
[20:52] <LycoLoco> Lunar_Lander: in what way?
[20:52] <Lunar_Lander> I only run something as root when I use sudo, right?
[20:53] <LycoLoco> if you run something as a normal user it shouldn't run as root
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> well it says "don't run programs as root"
[20:53] <LycoLoco> yep, that's correct
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[20:53] <lighta> how can I set meld with rapidsvn ? difftool = usr/bin/meld ??
[20:53] <LycoLoco> if you see # you're running as root
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[20:53] <LycoLoco> if you see $ you're running as a regular user
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> and when I do sudo, it wants my login
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> the login for the PC
[20:53] <LycoLoco> so yeah, if you don't see # or use sudo, you'll not run anything as root
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:53] <hsmod> escott, ya, only doing that causes compiz to run that high
[20:53] <LycoLoco> yep, for that user that you currently are
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[20:53] <LycoLoco> sudo means "as super user, do..."
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:54] <escott> hsmod, odd. you could switch to a 2d desktop. not clear what would be causing that. what version is the remote system?
[20:54] <LycoLoco> Lunar_Lander: all clear now?
[20:54] <Lunar_Lander> yes, thanks
[20:54] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[20:54] <hsmod> both systems are oneiric
[20:54] <hsmod> i'll try the 2d desktop suggestion though, that might be a good idea
[20:54] <hsmod> thanks
[20:55] <LycoLoco> Lunar_Lander: glad to be of help
[20:55] <Lunar_Lander> :) thanks
[20:56] <Sidewinder1> !rootirc | Guest63251
[20:56] <escott> raffamaiden, look at the .desktop files in /usr/share and make your own for KeePass, validate it with desktop-file-validate and then install it
[20:58] <raffamaiden> I got it
[20:59] <raffamaiden> thanks you
[21:00] <benbloom> is it better to install 64b on an intel celeron 450? it is INTEL64 rather than AMD64, but from my research the two are the same in this regard?
[21:01] <escott> benbloom the term amd64 comes from amd defining the 64bit instruction set. intel just copied it. as to what is better for your machine it depends on a lot of things
[21:01] <dw1> Hello: Looking for advice on file system choice for third "user files" partition when I set up dual boot with Windows 7 system on NTFS partition and ubuntu on ext 4
[21:01] <dw1>  I know that ntfs and ext4 (or perhaps ext3) are both possible choices, but which is preferred, and why?
[21:02] <escott> dw1, windows access to ext4 is not good. and linux cannot fix errors in ntfs. for linux use ext4 is preferred
[21:02] <bekks> dw1: ntfs, because windows 7 cannot access ext4.
[21:02] <benbloom> thanks escott. so how should I decide if it's right for my machine? I'm happy to read up on it but not sure where to look
[21:03] <dw1> bekks: but I have been told that Windows can access at least ext3?
[21:03] <escott> benbloom, i would say just use the 64bit if it is available to you
[21:03] <bekks> dw1: Not natively, but only using 3rd party tools. I do not recommend using them.
[21:03] <dw1> bekks: OK
[21:04] <escott> benbloom, unless you have very little ram <2GB
[21:04] <benbloom> k. that's what i was thinking escott. i'm happy with 64b on my other pc.
[21:04] <dw1> It seems to me essential - to get the real benefit of dual boot - to share a user files partition of some kind. Maybe I will try ntfs then
[21:04] <mactrent> Hilikus, I'm telling you this because I think I'd want to know - your cloak didn't load until after you were in.
[21:04] <robin0800> dw1: I use fat32 for my data partition works fine for me
[21:05] <Sidewinder1> dw1, And if you're planning to shrink the NTFS partition, remember to defragment it, at least twice, prior shrinking.
[21:05] <celthunder> dw1: ntfs for the windows partition and ext3 for the linux ones (you can mount ext3 in windows but not ext4)
[21:05] <bekks> dw1: robin0800: fta32 cant be used with files > 4GB.
[21:05] <dw1> robin0800: I had not even thought of that. Maybe you have something there
[21:05] <mactrent> robin0800, FAT32 is much less robust than NTFS, though it is smaller.
[21:05] <Hilikus> mactrent: its ok, thank you
[21:05] <__TALISH__> How do i un-install files?
[21:05] <theadmin> __TALISH__: Sorry lolwut?
[21:06] <bekks> __TALISH__: which ubuntu do you have?
[21:07] <dw1> celthunder: I have pretty much decided on ntfs for the windows system installation and ext4 for the linux system. My question is what is best for a third "user files" partition for files that I want to be able to work on from a choice of OSs
[21:07] <lighta> ntfs dw1
[21:07] <Phrogz_> Due to an rsync mistake I have /foo/bar and /foo/bar/bar; what's the best way to merge the contents of the sub-folder-hierarchy with the parent folder hierarchy?
[21:07] <robin0800> bekks: that's ok I don;t have any files that big
[21:08] <celthunder> dw1: ntfs then
[21:08] <dw1> answers I have received here in the last few minutes seem to exclude ext4 for this thrid partition, but leave possible choices of ntfs, fat32, or ext3
[21:08] <Cataclysm> how do i see session in 11.10? i cant even see my open windows, what the heck?
[21:08] <escott> dw1, ntfs if you intent to share files between the OSes, but make sure your windows system can boot, because it is the only way to fix the NTFS partition
[21:08] <lighta> ext3 you may have issue with windows
[21:08] <lighta> fat32 or ntfs that up to you
[21:08] <dw1> But I get the feeling that the general tendency expressed here is to prefer ntfs - so maybe that's my answer
[21:09] <EvilResistance> dw1:  i'd do NTFS if the partition is going to be holding files that are greater than 4GB
[21:09] <EvilResistance> because FAT32 has a limit
[21:09] <Cataclysm> what happened to session viewing in 11.10? do they expect us to not handle more than two windows at once?????
[21:09] <dw1> escott: I am committed to keeping both OSs working due to S/W I have got to use - so that's OK
[21:10] <lighta> well if windows would support other thing, I'd told you ext4 or whatever, but it's not the case so, then beetwen fat32 and ntfs you already know the diff so here the choice
[21:10] <benbloom> Phrogz_: did u get an answer?
[21:10] <Cataclysm> wait is unity the session management
[21:10] <Cataclysm> omfg
[21:11] <vbajpai> vbajpai: trying to install ubuntu server guest on ubuntu server host using kvm, I get a graphics mode 640x480 screen; what do I do now?
[21:11] <vbajpai> vbajpai: I tried, hitting escape blindly and then typing: install fb=false and then enter, but nothing happened
[21:11] <dw1> lighta: but celthunder says above that Windows will mount ext3 OK but not ext4 (and I had already been told something similar by a work colleague, I believe)
[21:11] <__TALISH__> How do I uninstall programs I have a really old version of ubuntu
[21:12] <dw1> so it seems still I must choose between fat32, ext3 and ntfs for the shared partition
[21:12] <bekks> __TALISH__: Which ubuntu version do you have then?
[21:12] <escott> dw1, yes there is a driver, but there are more people using (and therefore testing) the ntfs driver for linux than testing the ext3 driver for windows
[21:12] <mactrent> __TALISH__, apt-get remove <program>
[21:12] <lighta> maybe, when I tryed wasn't the case, maybe they update it
[21:12] <dw1> escott: Yes, assuming true, that would be a very important point you make.
[21:12] <dw1> -safety in numbers
[21:12] <Cataclysm> this is so stupid. well im switching to xubuntu, see you guys
[21:13] <jrshaul> A friend of mine wants to install to empty space on a hard drive with a 2.2TB Windows partition. However, he gets an error saying that this is not possible.
[21:13] <jrshaul> I've never seen this before. What's going on?
[21:13] <escott> jrshaul, probably a gpt issue. what version of the installer is he using
[21:14] <jrshaul> Latest one - just burnt.
[21:14] <theadmin> jrshaul: Aren't you supposed to create a partition to install to first?
[21:14] <dw1> I think I'm going to go off and do complete the install with ntfs for the users' partition. -Thanks to all of your for opinions and info
[21:14] <jrshaul> He's trying to use the default "install alongside windows" option. However, anything I suggest seems to be throwing the same error message.
[21:15] <escott> jrshaul, try the manual partitioning
[21:15] <jrshaul> It doesn't seem to be working, though I am helping someone remotely (augh.)
[21:15] <jrshaul> I get" Error: partition length of 7762061790 sectors exceeds the msdos-partition-table-imposed maximum". It seems to be preventing the ubuntu installer from doing anything.
[21:16] <escott> jrshaul, well if he has an msdos partition table on a 2.2TB disk then the end of the disk is inaccessbile
[21:16] <escott> jrshaul, he could try and switch to gpt using gdisk, and perhaps he has a hybrid gpt/msdos partition table which could confuse things
[21:16] <escott> jrshaul, install and use gdisk to figure out what is going on
[21:17] <jrshaul> It's just a standard Win7 install.
[21:17] <escott> jrshaul, that doesnt mean much
[21:17] <Sidewinder1> jrshaul, And if he plans on shrinking the NTFS partition, remember to Defragment first!
[21:17] <jrshaul> When I say "standard win7 install", I mean that there's nothing on the disk but Win7 and some empty space.
[21:17] <escott> jrshaul, again that doesnt mean much
[21:17] <jrshaul> Huh. Should shrinking the NTFS partition fix it?
[21:17] <escott> jrshaul, install and use gdisk
[21:18] <jrshaul> escott: It throws an error.
[21:18] <escott> jrshaul, disk throws an error?
[21:18] <escott> jrshaul, gdisk that is
[21:20] <escott> jrshaul, this documentation is very thorough http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/
[21:21] <apaso63> ciao!!
[21:21] <HQRaja> Any of you know the channel for Linux Mint?
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> !mint
[21:21] <HQRaja> Thanks
[21:22] <`MArceLL`> %/s -m irc.spotchat.org
[21:22] <Sidewinder1> !it | apaso63
[21:24] <HQRaja> Bleh...I thought /server -s would work in Xchat
[21:24] <HQRaja> -m*
[21:25]  * HQRaja sues `MArceLL` for making him disconnect
[21:25] <pyromaniac77> hello, i have little images next to all my menu options (eg save, quit, open) does anyone know how to make them go away
[21:26] <moo-> running 11.10 on a laptop with VIA Chrome 9 HC IGP and the mouse pointer have a flickering square
[21:26] <moo-> what to do?
[21:27] <moo-> can i switch other device driver? i think it use openchrome, right?
[21:27] <moo-> but ubuntu say unknown
[21:27] <pyromaniac77> hello, i have little images next to all my menu options (eg save, quit, open) does anyone know how to make them go away
[21:28] <velociostrich> Would someone with a reasonably clean installation be so kind as to provide the output of 'dpkg --get-selections' to pastebin for me?
[21:28] <velociostrich> Verison 11.10
[21:28] <pyromaniac77> sure one minute
[21:30] <pyromaniac77> ...oops. i guess my install isnt clean enough. terminal ran out of space.
[21:30] <Foulad> when i trey to use RDP remote desktop , its not working ?
[21:31] <Foulad> with windows
[21:31] <velociostrich> pyromaniac77: lol, just dump the output to a temporary file then copy-paste?
[21:31] <Foulad> any one tried remote desktop viewer ? the built it one
[21:32] <HQRaja> OK since my question has to do with both Mint and Ubuntu, I'll ask here too.
[21:33] <artistx> hello
[21:34] <Crup> Hey, if I install a linux on a usb flashdrive, when I install additional softwares they're installed on the flashdrive, right?
[21:34] <escott> Crup, yes
[21:35] <Crup> escott, Okay, and how about the drivers ? Same thing, i suppose ?
[21:35] <escott> Crup, yes
[21:35] <Crup> ty
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: you can use VNC from Windows to Ubuntu to remote control
[21:35] <HQRaja> I recently tried out both Ubuntu 11.10 and Linux Mint 12. I liked Ubuntu better overall, so I chose it over Mint, but I really liked Mint's Software Manager better than Ubuntu's Software Center when it comes to the default apps available in these two programs.
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: what are you connecting for? There are often sleeker solutions
[21:36] <HQRaja> Now is there a way to get Mint's Software Manager in Ubuntu, or a list of repositories it uses to show those extra apps that Ubuntu Software Center doesn't show by default?
[21:36] <bekks> HQRaja: We dont support Mint in here.
[21:36] <HQRaja> And can the Ubuntu Software Center be made to show all those apps by adding those repositories?
[21:37] <HQRaja> bekks: I am using Ubuntu and asking about how to get something on Ubuntu, not Mint
[21:37] <escott> HQRaja, no dont do that. figure out the name of the software in mint that you like and see if it is available in ubuntu. but dont mix packages from one distro to the other
[21:37] <dw1> I know sector size is almost always 512bytes, but how does one confirm this on a new PC?
[21:37] <bekks> HQRaja: But we dont know anything about Mint. Ask their support :)
[21:38] <escott> dw1, hdparm can sometimes tell, but newer 4k drives will lie because windows XP can't handle anything bur 512b
[21:38] <HQRaja> bekks: Heh if I'd ask their support, they'd be like we don't support Ubuntu here...the thing is, I just want one feature of Mint in ubuntu...I'm not using or planning to use Mint =)
[21:38] <sx_usr__> hi, i am now on kernel 3.1.2 but the issue with bluetooth transfer still not working...
[21:38] <sx_usr__> anyone has the answer to that?
[21:38] <HQRaja> escott: Well, take chrome for instance. In Ubuntu Software Center, only chromium is available, not chrome.
[21:39] <Vaag256> I have a bit of an odd problem, I'm trying to use @font-face css and while it works in FF 3.62 and FF 8 on windows, it doesnt do so on ubuntu in the same versions, the same goes for chromium, leading me to believe that the problem is linux related
[21:39] <theadmin> HQRaja: Chrome is Chromium + Google support.
[21:39] <escott> dw1, wikipedia is not a bad reference for these things. i know the WD green drives are 4k
[21:39] <HQRaja> And there are many other applications too, that don't show up in ubuntu but do in Mint...so I was figuring that since it isn't entirely a different distro but rather based on Ubuntu with additional stuff, maybe I could get all that in Ubuntu too?
[21:40] <Vaag256> whats even weirder, the font-face does work when zooming out on linux browsers. (this sounds crazy, because it is) I can post an example link if thats ok?
[21:40] <HQRaja> Just the software manager of Mint
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: chromium is also opensource all the way, so can be included
[21:40] <escott> HQRaja, just install synaptic and search for stuff. the google branded versions of chrome can be downloaded from google's website
[21:40] <HQRaja> theadmin: Yup...I got chrome another way anyway though...I know there are alternative ways
[21:41] <theadmin> HQRaja: Yeah, you can just download from chrome.google.com
[21:41] <guntbert> HQRaja: it is certainly not a question of the package manager but of the available packages
[21:41] <HQRaja> Guys, I understand that there are other ways but what I'm interested in knowing is if there's a way to get the software manager from Mint in Ubuntu
[21:41] <dw1> escott: thanks again
[21:42] <HQRaja> Or if the same collection of available software can be achieved in Ubuntu's Software Center by adding a list of extra repositories used by Mint or not
[21:42] <guntbert> HQRaja: the answer was given several times now: "no"
[21:42] <MMlosh> Hi!  is this discontinued? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot
[21:42] <HQRaja> Oh OK
[21:42] <HQRaja> Thanks
[21:43] <AbuMaia> How do I fix this, other than restarting my computer every time it happens?  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8725574/Screenshot%20at%202011-12-04%2014%3A39%3A06.png
[21:43] <guntbert> MMlosh: apparently not quite - last edited june 2011
[21:44] <jcmarini> gday
[21:44] <MMlosh> guntbert, but the last release mentioned is Karmic..
[21:44] <escott> AbuMaia, what graphics card do you have
[21:44] <AbuMaia> escott: integrated intel
[21:44] <escott> AbuMaia, what chipset?
[21:44] <guntbert> MMlosh: yes, I saw, you could look at the history and ask someone who edited the page
[21:45] <MMlosh> ok, thanks for advice    (ubuntu has newboot images since 11.10.. but they are install-only.. I need a live system)
[21:45] <AbuMaia> escott: Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[21:47] <Neosano> Grub should timeout, but it doesn't. It's waiting until I press ENTER. why? I'm not sure, but seems like it's happening only after hibernation
[21:48] <jcmarini> anyone had trouble with new cd not recognised by burner
[21:49] <escott> AbuMaia, you could try and ctrl-alt-f1 and ctrl-alt-f7 but it might make things worse
[21:50] <escott> AbuMaia, are you running 11.10?
[21:51] <AbuMaia> escott: no change. Yes, 11.10
[21:51] <meerkats> how do I install a SDL-1.2.14-1.i586.rpm file?
[21:51] <moo-> is there any tool to configure xorg?
[21:51] <jcmarini> anyone had troible with new cd not recognised by Gnome-Baker
[21:52] <escott> meerkats, alien and dont do it
[21:52] <meerkats> escott, why?
[21:53] <escott> meerkats, because its will break your system
[21:54] <meerkats> would SDL-1.2.14.tar.gz - GPG signed    also break my system, escott ?
[21:54] <conntrack> What is the weather like in Meerkovo?
[21:55] <escott> meerkats, if you use --prefix properly you shouldnt break anything you cant fix. why aren't you using the SDL in apt
[21:55] <meerkats> escott, because im a noob
[21:56] <escott> AbuMaia, thats unfortunate. if you are using the stock kernel, stock mesa, stock xorg and all then file a bug
[21:56] <AbuMaia> thanks escott
[21:56] <johnnyluu> this is getting my frustrated .. how do I scroll up and down in weechat?
[21:56] <guntbert> !software | meerkats
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> johnnyluu  is that with a gui or in terminal?
[21:56] <johnnyluu> :q!
[21:57] <johnnyluu> terminal
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> johnnyluu  try page up and down
[21:57] <johnnyluu> MonkeyDust: im on a mac .. no such keys haha
[21:57] <meerkats> i dont see that version in synaptic, I need the latest version to see if it has something to do with a sigsegv I have
[21:57] <jen_> how can i get a password protected folder?
[21:58] <guntbert> meerkats: don't play with "latest versions" if you are not experienced
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> johnnyluu  so your question is: 'how do i scroll up and down on a mac'
[21:58] <escott> jen_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> johnnyluu: PgUp/Dn maybe
[21:59] <jen_> nuuu i need someone to walk me through it >.<
[21:59] <meerkats> how encouraging, Guntbert
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> meerkats  'latest versions' are often unstable
[22:00] <escott> jen_, not sure what i would do other than tell you exactly what it says. start following the instructions, and if you have a question ask
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> johnnyluu: ALT+PgUp/PgDn for a few line. All told on this page: http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_user.en.html#key_bindings   which you could have easily found.
[22:00] <jen_> otay :>
[22:00] <jen_> ussually when I do something like following directions I do something wrong :(
[22:01] <DonaldDick> question is their a list somewhere of all the builtin/default keyboard short cuts. (i.e like ctrl + f , ctrl + x ,...etc) just curious to learn any default shortcuts I am not aware of... Thanks
[22:01] <DonaldDick> keyboard shortcuts for ubuntu that is
[22:02] <brightspark> Hi, my computer is not locking the screen when it wakes up from sleep- any help?
[22:03] <jen_> this is what I got :(
[22:03] <jen_> http://pastebin.com/wN18VJ7E
[22:03] <HQRaja> I have just tried Docky and I love it. I find it better than the Unity launcher. Can I hide the Unity Launcher altogether?
[22:03] <escott> jen_, if you have synaptic open close that
[22:04] <jen_> escott, whats that?
[22:04] <jen_> oh updater
[22:04] <HQRaja> Or auto-hide it by default, to show up only on hover...the way it behaves when I have an app maximized?
[22:04] <Triscar0> when installing 11.10 server, i get error when installing the packeges step. why? then i try to skip the step an install GRUB booting, and that also get error
[22:04] <escott> jen_, you have some other application that installs software open. it needs to be closed
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: sure, set it to autohise and set the margin to show the unity launcher to 0
[22:04] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: How should I do that?
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> jen_: do you have updates running or software centre open?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: in ccsm
[22:05] <jen_> yeah let them finish
 try ps -A | grep (dpkg or rpm or ,...other package managers) kill them all an you should be all set you probably have the gui synaptic open and you are trying to install from commandline
[22:05] <HQRaja> Linux newbie here BTW...not exactly a newbie but haven't really used it as my main OS ever
[22:05] <HQRaja> ccsm?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc    please, and I can advise
[22:06] <brightspark> HQRaja, compiz config settings manager
[22:06] <HQRaja> oneiric...I'm on 11.10
[22:06] <jen_> its done, let me figure out how to use one
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: then run:  sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager; ccsm
[22:06] <mamece2> hi, ihave some problems with my laptop. i updated to 11.04 and my 3D GUI is not working
[22:06] <HQRaja> brightspark: Thanks
[22:07] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: Alright, let me do that
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: do you use an nvidia or ATi GPU?
[22:07] <Hilikus> my virtualbox win7guest in ubuntu host is crashing with a BSOD with "MEMORY_MANAGEMENT" any idea what could be the problem?
[22:07] <ubuntu01> im use ubuntu desktop
[22:07] <escott> !rootirc | Guest32682
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> Hilikus: I'd ask in #vbox
[22:07] <ubuntu01> are there a program to backup mysql databases every day?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> !backup | ubuntu01
[22:07] <jen_> okay heres where I will need help...I dont get all the ubuntu terms and stuff where can I find this folder so I can put pictures in it?
[22:07] <ubuntu01> have you link to this?
[22:08] <escott> ubuntu01, for something like mysql use mysql replication or just cron+rsync
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> jen_: put it in $HOME/Pictures   as you would expect
[22:08] <Triscar0> when installing 11.10 server, i get error when installing the packeges step. why? then i try to skip the step an install GRUB booting, and that also get error
[22:08] <jen_> okay
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> Triscar0: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[22:08] <jen_> well I have some in there
[22:09] <ubuntu01> are there not simple program?
[22:09] <Triscar0> ActionParsnip, no ? :\
[22:09] <ubuntu01> with package manageR?
[22:09] <escott> jen_, the instructions i sent you create a $HOME/Private folder which is encrypted and cannot be accessed except when you login
[22:09] <ubuntu01> where i can backup mysql database backup every day
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> Triscar0: then how did you know the ISO was complete and consistent?
[22:09] <Triscar0> ActionParsnip, i just downloaded latest at ubuntu.com
[22:09] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: mmm thats a hard question
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu01: just stop the SQL service and you can archive the files, the guys in mysql channel will have a good idea
[22:10] <jen_> escott, so that means?
[22:10] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: Alright I've got it now...loads of options there. Lemme explore. Thanks =)
[22:10] <Foulad> can someone tell me what is gnome-control-center ?
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Triscar0: it can still be damaged while it is downloaded, source is irrelevant
[22:10] <Triscar0> ActionParsnip, ok i will check it, thnx:D
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Triscar0: if the ISO passes MD5 test, then the image is good
[22:10] <Foulad> can someone tell me what is gnome-control-center ? and for what we can use it ?
[22:10] <escott> jen_, i think it is what you wanted. you wanted a directory that was "password" protected. so if it is encrypted then it is protected by the passwords you choose for the encryption
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: search dash for settings
[22:11] <jen_> escott, so how do I make a assword?
[22:11] <jen_> pardon me, password
[22:11] <MonkeyDust> Foulad  gnome-control-center is similar to window control panel
[22:11] <escott> jen_, you can choose whatever password you want (in fact with ecryptfs you can have multiple passwords)
[22:11] <MonkeyDust> windows*
[22:12] <jen_> but how?
[22:12] <Aldus> hello everyone. Did some gnome2 user get used to Unity a/o Gnome3 yet? :|
[22:12] <Aldus> I just find those uncomfortable. But maybe I'm doing something wrong.
[22:12] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: help me find out whats my driver plz, i use to watch it in the additional driver manager, now is not there
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: try:  sudo lshw -C display
[22:12] <escott> jen_, i dont understand what you are asking. i dont think "pick a sequence of letters numbers and symbols that you can remember" is what you want as an answer for "how to create a password"
[22:13] <theadmin> Aldus: Try XFCE (or Linux Mint). XFCE's really like GNOME 2, and Mint still has GNOME 2 available as a choice in the login screen
[22:13] <theadmin> I'm going now tho, need some sleep
 so how can i use it with online account?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: what is your GPU?
 which i can use google account on it
[22:13] <keith_linux123> hi Ubuntu community, is their anyway to  specify which audio output each app uses
[22:13] <MonkeyDust> Foulad  online account?
[22:13] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: intel corporation is the vendor
[22:14] <bonhoffer> don't know why ctl+e gives me a question mark now
[22:14] <Aldus> theadmin, thanks...  I'll have a look
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: gotcha, they usually just fly
[22:14] <keith_linux123> like if i  have banshee and skyape going , can i tell banshee to use my speakers
[22:14] <bonhoffer> in chromium on ubuntu 11.10
[22:14] <keith_linux123> and skyape to use my headset
[22:14] <jen_> escott, oii, im at my home folder right now, looking at my things, what do i do?
[22:14] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: im nvidia?
 system setting online account (11.10)
[22:14] <escott> jen_, you follow the instructions on the link i sent you
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> Foulad  can't say, i don't use that
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: is it nvidia or is it intel. Or do you have that hybrid graphics nonesense
[22:15] <escott> jen_, if you have trouble following instructions, i dont see how my giving you instructions will be an improvement
[22:15] <mamece2> ActionParsnip:  product: Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[22:15] <mamece2>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[22:15] <jen_> escott, i havent been working with ubuntu no more than a year, Im still figuring things out
[22:15] <brightspark> Hi, my computer is not locking the screen when it wakes up from sleep- any help?
[22:16] <Foulad> can anyone tell use about > system setting > online account (11.10) what is it used for ?
[22:16] <jtokarchuk> Foulad: I believe it is supposed to store things like a Google account, to automate the login to some services
[22:17] <escott> jen_, everyone has to start somewhere
[22:17] <Foulad>  can anyone tell use about > system setting > online account (11.10) what is it used for ?
 like which service ?
[22:17] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: just intel is the vendor, it doesnt said nvidia
[22:17] <jtokarchuk> Foulad: Upon clicking on add, I get the opportunity to add a Google account.
[22:18] <jtokarchuk> Foulad: The (+) button on the bottom left of the window
 yea but we need someone to tell us why we need it
[22:18] <qcjn> hi, i have this at start up "error the symbol`grub_xputs`not found"
[22:19] <jtokarchuk> Foulad: I for one, using Google everything, find the idea of it immensely useful
[22:19] <qcjn> i've did the boot infoscript
[22:19] <HQRaja> The more I'm using ubuntu, the less I'm wanting to switch back to Windows 7 (which is still an awesome OS)
[22:19] <Foulad> can anyone tell use about > system setting > online account (11.10) what is it used for ?
[22:19] <Lunar_Lander> xD yeah HQRaja
[22:19] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: i still cant get ubuntu 3D to work , what can i do?
[22:19] <qcjn> http://pastebin.com/jbSGhAp8
[22:19] <jtokarchuk> HQRaja: I just made the full jump from 7 as well. Enjoying every second of it. Goodbye .net
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: do you use dual gpu/hybrid graphics, or is it just an Intel GPU?
[22:20] <qcjn> with gparted, from live cd i've seen that the boot flag was on winXP, so i ve changed it to sda2, but that didn't fixed it ?
[22:20] <HQRaja> Well I don't mind .net...in fact I didn't mind anything in Windows 7 at all, really. I just wanted to explore and appreciate Ubuntu as another alternative available, and I'm loving it so far.
[22:20] <HQRaja> I didn't know I won't miss Windows 7 while using Ubuntu
[22:20] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: just an intel, my laptop is a lenovo
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: not sure then dude, could read /var/log/Xorg.0.log   to see what's what
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: I always do a clean install of the new release rather than upgrade, seems to help avoid issues
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: there are other distros too, fun to try
[22:22] <Lunar_Lander> yea HQRaja
[22:22] <HQRaja> I wonder why is everyone so displeased with Unity though...it only took a day of getting used-to and I'm fine with it now...after setting its launcher to auto-hide, using Docky as my launcher and installing GNOME Do
[22:22] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: how can u do that without losing your info and configurations?
[22:22] <jkrish> other than the global menu unity is fine
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: I think its fine, I think its one of those things where people don't like change, some people find it genuinely slows them down
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: backups, easy
[22:23] <Foulad> what is ubuntu calendar name ?
[22:23] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: BTW tried Mint...dismissed it in favor of Ubuntu for many reasons but I guess the primary one was that Unity lets me utilize the top bar for the file edit view etc menus, while Gnome Shell no longer does that and wastes that screen real-estate on top
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: evolution has one in, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1487356
[22:24] <Cataclysm> just use xubuntu with the ubuntu 10 theme
[22:24] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: And yes, I totally agree with you there...it's just that fear of change...that conformist nature of the masses
[22:24] <Cataclysm> its great
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: plus the ubuntu community is hugs compared to Mint's
[22:24] <HQRaja> Or conformist nurture, rather.
[22:24] <jtokarchuk> Is anyone around that could help me out with my forum account? I am unsure of what email address it is sitting on.
[22:24] <Cataclysm> its not about change. its about how terrible and counter-productive unity is to my dev environment
 i just used online account under system setting
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> its a marmite thing :)
[22:25] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: Yeah, plus way larger.
[22:25] <lhasa> Cataclysm: that's what i was using, then yesterday added xfce to a command line install ... something like 500 less packages installed now that it's all set up
[22:25] <jkrish> has anyone had success with veetle in Opera?
[22:25] <jtokarchuk> nevermind on the forum thing, figured out my password
[22:25] <HQRaja> Cataclysm: GNOME Do FTW my friend!
[22:26] <Cataclysm> HQRaja i hope you arent being serious
[22:26] <HQRaja> Being a heavy user of Launchy on Windows, I fell in love with GNOME Do instantly
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: the dash is the same as gnome do in so many ways
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: and is aalready installed
[22:26] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: Well, when it comes to launching applications, yeah
[22:27] <HQRaja> But you can do a lot more with GNOME Do
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: and it searches your $HOME for docs too
[22:27] <HQRaja> Like calculations, opening websites, sending tweets...you name it, you got it
[22:27] <Cataclysm> anyone know of a theme editor? i have one highlight to fix on a theme i downloaded. dont see any.
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: there is also a calc addon and a location addon too
[22:28] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: Addons for dash?
[22:28] <corina> heloo
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/unity-cities-scope-adds-windspeed-fahrenheit-data-to-dash/
[22:29] <corina> ce se intanpla aici ?
[22:29] <corina> Ș))
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/help-test-a-unity-dash-based-calculator/
[22:29] <HQRaja> checking it out
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: as you can see, its very expanable
[22:29] <brightspark> Cataclysm, how to edit the themes is often dependent on which themes it is- clearlooks, aurora, etc.  You can probably edit the image files directly using GIMP.
[22:30] <__TALISH__> How can I run Windows inside ubuntu?
[22:30] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: Nice...that's a start. Though considering the options available for GNOME Do already, it has a long way to go
[22:30] <brightspark> Excuse that horrible subject-verb agreement.
[22:30] <Lunar_Lander> VirtualBox for example __TALISH__
[22:30] <HQRaja> Still, a good start...it'll be great to have GNOME Do features built right into the OS
[22:30] <HQRaja> Without the need for a separate app for the purpose
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: well look at the age differnce, then look at what unity has in such a small amount of time
[22:31] <HQRaja> Yup...good start
[22:31] <HQRaja> Will take a while
[22:31] <HQRaja> But then, we do have GNOME Do till then
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: well canonical are coding Unity, so I bet it overtakes quite rapidly
[22:32] <HQRaja> In fact on Windows, I had to hack Launchy and Executor to perform all that GNOME Do comes with right out-of-the-box
[22:32] <iceroot> __TALISH__: vbox, vmware, xen, kvm
[22:32] <HQRaja> While usually it's the other way round with Windows programs and their Linux alternatives
[22:32] <iceroot> !vbox | __TALISH__
[22:32] <HQRaja> I was amazed!
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: plus GnomeDo is coded using mono which some people have strong aversions to
[22:32] <brightspark> Can anyone recommend me a good rpn calculator that runs in the terminal?  I'm thinking like dc but with trig and log functions at least.
[22:33] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: Is mono the .NET framework for Linux?
[22:33] <Grace_> hello all...
[22:33] <Arutha> Question... Is there a best-practice guide, when using mdadm, on whether you should use the devices (/dev/sdb, etc), or should you partition it (/dev/sdb1, etc)?
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: as far as I'm aware, yes
[22:33] <HQRaja> I see
[22:33] <HQRaja> Well, I don't really mind the underlying technology as long as it gets the job done =)
[22:34] <iceroot> Arutha: you are building a raid-array always on partitions
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: http://www.linuxdig.com/news_page/1097639054.php   persoanlly I don't care but some people have strong objections to mono
[22:34] <Arutha> iceroot: I know.. but mdadm is letting me do it on the devices, not the partitions.. So, I'm wondering if there's a reason to do so one way or the other.
[22:34] <escott> Arutha, you can do mdadm + LVM if you just want RAIDX everywhere. but if you want different raid types then you need different md partitions
[22:34] <__TALISH__> is ubottu a bot or real person?
[22:34] <HQRaja> Yup...those who want to use only native stuff, and strictly free software etc.
[22:35] <Sidewinder1> bot
[22:35] <__TALISH__> Ahh
[22:35] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: I doubt if MS would do what's mentioned in point no. 3 there...they're not Apple heh.
[22:35] <iceroot> Arutha: i dont see a reason to use a complete drive
[22:35] <codd> Hi, I am srand that just asked that partition question. I lost connection RIGHT after I asked my question so I did not receive any answers. If somebody did answer, could they please copy/paste it again? Thanks!
[22:36] <HQRaja> Plus it's in their own interest not to do anything like that...Mono is benefiting them indirectly by giving their .NET and C# platforms more coverage
[22:36] <HQRaja> more userbase, more developers
[22:37] <Arutha> iceroot: why not?  My intention is that these drives are part of the raid array, end of story.  I don't want to use them for anything else.  Every walthrough/guide/etc does, indeed, show mdadm on partitions, but if the partition is just going to be the full drive, and mdadm is letting me do it, I'm not sure why you shouldn't use the drive, instead of a partition on the drive?
[22:37] <escott> Arutha, if you dont need it to boot then from a management perspective whole disk mdadm + LVM may be easier
[22:37] <HQRaja> I personally like mono better than Java because on identical systems, it's snappier than Java and feels more native than Java...oh and definitely WAY better than Adobe Air, which I consider an abomination
[22:37] <escott> Arutha, although I would still have a partition table with 1 big partition
[22:38] <captainjamie> Hello. I've basically done this: apt-get install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5 and then put the contents of my website in /var/www and I can view it on another computer but only if I type my IP in, how can I set it so I type www.soomething.com and I get to it? Thanks
[22:38] <__TALISH__> Can anyone tell my why my VLC isn't working, I click on it and nothing happens?
[22:38] <codd> I'll rephrase my question; can I make an extended partition with label Linux that has 3 logical partitions, / /home and swap? Because I only have 1 primary partition left. Windows already took 3.
[22:38] <escott> codd, yes you can dothat
[22:39] <codd> Great! I thought it would not be bootable :)
[22:39] <Arutha> escott: I've got a boot partition already on a different drive, so booting isn't an issue.  This gets mounted on the filesystem at /the_raid (I'm imaginitive!).  Why would you do one big partition, and use that partition in the raid?  That's what I'm trying to understand :)
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: grooveshark lens: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/grooveshark-scope-for-unity-music-lens.html
[22:39] <__TALISH__> Why wont my VLC open?
[22:39] <__TALISH__> And is there some sort of task manager?
[22:39] <codd> escott: then what is the point of the bootable flag of primary partitions?
[22:39] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: Nice
[22:39] <HQRaja> That's progress there
[22:39] <escott> Arutha, because if you dont have a partition table then what happens when you boot some other os, and it looks at the disk and says "this is an unpartitioned disk, I'll help you by partitioning it"
[22:40] <escott> Arutha, in general you should never have an unpartitioned disk for that reason (although nothing prevents you)
[22:40] <Arutha> escott: ahhh.. I'm not that worried about that, tbh; I'm doing this under esxi, and I'd have to be an utter moron to mount the vmdk's to another vm :)
[22:41] <escott> Arutha, never underestimate your own future stupidity :)
[22:41] <Arutha> escott: Looking at the number of beer bottles on my desk, you very well may have a point ;)
[22:42] <Arutha> I kind of wish btrfs had the raid5 stuff finally implemented... I'd rather have all-in-one, and zfs isn't cutting it for my needs :(
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> __TALISH__: if you run:  ps -ef | grep vlc | grep -v grep   is it running?
[22:45] <jkrish> is there a lens that would organize music albums by artists?
[22:46] <__TALISH__> NOPE
[22:46] <__TALISH__> ps -ef | grep vlc | grep -v grep did not work what is that supposed to d?
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> __TALISH__: if it outputs nothing then it is not running
[22:47] <__TALISH__> Ok and? That didnt help me?
[22:47] <__TALISH__> It never runs when I click it nothing happens.
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> __TALISH__: if you run:  vlc    in terminal, what is output? Does the app run? use http://pastie.org to give the output if there is any
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> __TALISH__: yes, we estabnlished that clicking the icon doesn't work, you told us that earlier...
[22:49] <jtokarchuk> Where are the screensaver settings in 11.10? Am I somewhat insane?
[22:49] <iceroot> Arutha: but there is no filesystem on /dev/sda so i dont know if it is working
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> jtokarchuk: oneiric doesn't ship with one by default
[22:49] <jtokarchuk> ActionParsnip: Thank you.
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> jtokarchuk: http://www.noobslab.com/2011/10/important-tweaks-after-installation-of.html
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> jtokarchuk: shows how to install one if you desire
[22:50] <jtokarchuk> ActionParsnip: I can install one, was just ensuring I wasn't loopy and it wasn't there already
[22:50] <Arutha> iceroot: It works in that configuration.  Copying files via samba to it, then checking it from a linux ssh session shows everything is a-ok.  escott's reasoning, though, does have a lot of merit.
[22:50] <jtokarchuk> ActionParsnip,  So thank you!
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> jtokarchuk: np :)
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> __TALISH__: does running: vlc   in the terminal run the app? Is any text output to the terminal?
[22:55] <jkrish> .
[22:56] <l11> set private on
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> __TALISH__: btw, 'That didn't help me?' isn't a question, so the question mark is redundant
[22:58] <inc_> hi! Pls, help setup twitter-account in Pidgin.
[22:58] <l11> hi all , search for an channel with german ubuntu support?
[22:59] <l11> can someone tell me the name of it?
[22:59] <OerHeks> !de
[22:59] <gwb> hi -- in boot/grub/menu.lst, the kopt= options, are they cumulative?  That is, can I say kopt=foo, kopt_3_0_0=bar and have "foo bar" added to my kernel line?  Or must I fully specify kopt_3_0_0=foo bar ?
[22:59] <l11> thanks
[23:01] <Lunar_Lander> thanks again for everything!
[23:01] <Lunar_Lander> good night
[23:03] <ph0x09> how do i boot on 11.10 root shell with networking because on recovery menu i only have drop root shell read only. please help
[23:04] <escott> ph0x09, try adding the text boot option
[23:04] <ph0x09> escott: how?
[23:05] <gbase> hi, I would like to change my textmode font, but I don't know how, I would really apreciate if someone can help me
[23:06] <escott> ph0x09, in the grub menu hit e and then find the linux line and after splash put text
[23:06] <HQRaja> How do I disable the guest account?
[23:06] <derp> WELCOME TO TABLE, ANDERS_OFFICE_
[23:06] <HQRaja> 11.10 BTW
[23:06] <derp> WELCOME TO TABLE, SPARKYBLUEFOX
[23:07] <ikonia> Darwin4Ever: please stop that
[23:07] <ikonia> oops
[23:07] <ikonia> derp: please stop that
[23:07] <ikonia> (sorry Darwin4Ever )
[23:07] <derp> lol
[23:07] <derp> sorry.
[23:07] <gbase> how do I change my textmode font pls?
[23:07] <ikonia> derp: thanks
[23:10] <escott> gbase, like in the tty?
[23:10] <gbase> yes, like the console
[23:10] <gbase> terminal
[23:11] <html> anyone with andriod cell phone?
[23:11] <ikonia> html: why ?
[23:11] <escott> gbase, you can pass a kernel framebuffer argument to get a higher resolution but to actually change the font i think you have to compile a font into the kernel
[23:11] <gbase> ²it's a way to change the resolution to a lower resolution ?
[23:12] <html> ikonia,  ive been trying to get the tethering to work  with ubuntu with a connection thaat stays on for 5 secs
[23:13] <csolisr> Hello people. Does somebody know how to autostart UFW without having to open GUFW and leave it open?
[23:13] <escott> gbase, sure whatever direction you want, most people want a higher resolution. i dont know how well that will work in the future with modesetting. you arent really intended to use the tty for much other than rescuing a broken system
[23:13] <ikonia> html: from what I've read from other peoples posts that sort of issue is normally down to specific phones/android versions rather than "android in general"
[23:13] <escott> csolisr, have you checked iptables -L if your iptables are being restored you dont need to "start" anything
[23:13] <gbase> escott: I've got such a higher resolution
[23:14] <gbase> the text it's so hard to see
[23:14] <html> ikonia,  really ??  evo 4g  is what i have os:10.10 32 bit
[23:14] <vice> hello guys! how can i start a gnome-terminal which is starting another program in it: like this: vice@vaio ~$ gnome-terminal top
[23:14] <escott> gbase, why are you using the console?
[23:14] <gbase> I use ubuntu
[23:15] <csolisr> escott: I ran iptables -L, but can't figure out how to know if the iptables are being restored or not
[23:15] <html> csolisr,  im guessing a command line ,,,
[23:15] <ikonia> html: I don't have exact details as I'm not an android user, but people seem to have either very positive (it works no issues) or a bit of a fight, and the two experiences seem linked to certain devices
[23:15] <gbase> escott: I'm on my server and I really like the textmode, command line
[23:15] <escott> csolisr, if you see iptables rules then iptables are up. gufw is nothing but a set of iptables rules to load
[23:15] <escott> gbase, why not use ssh?
[23:15] <recon69_lap> hi, got a weirdness with firefox, the firefox window is missing the title bar with min/close buttons, and it's stuck to the top left of screen. anyone know how to fix
[23:15] <csolisr> gscott: It's up indeed. But only because I've left the GUFW window open. When I close, UFW closes
[23:16] <gbase> escott: I run xface on it as well and sometime I watch a movie
[23:16] <escott> csolisr, no it shouldnt
[23:16] <csolisr> In my particular case it does.
[23:16] <csolisr> For example, a port I've opened with UFW closes after closing GUFW.
[23:16] <html> ikonia,  do i need a driver ?   ..... and it shows up its there but nothing
[23:16] <escott> csolisr, your iptables rules are being dropped when you close gufw?
[23:17] <csolisr> escott: Seemingly yes. Also, I can't autostart it.
[23:17] <ikonia> html: I don't know....I don't use android
[23:17] <csolisr> I must manually open GUFW to start UFW.
[23:17] <html> ikonia,  thanks ,,, what about the bot?
[23:17] <ikonia> what about the bot ?
[23:17] <escott> csolisr, i could believe after a reboot that your iptables might be lost but
[23:18] <corigo> When booting stops on command line screen (initramfs)
[23:18] <html> ikonia,  i dont know much on how to get it to help me with this ,,, can you get it to help me
[23:19] <ikonia> html: I don't use android
[23:19] <lapiz> hi
[23:19] <ricardoromao> someone could help me with ubuntu 11.10 usb install into hp pavilion dv6 with amd A8, when the install page appear, the LCD goes off and dont turn on again to proced the install, i tryied acpi=off and noapic, but didnt work :(
[23:20] <lapiz> someone could help me on robery of password?
[23:20] <jrib> lapiz: you mean "recovery"?
[23:20] <escott> csolisr, how are you closing ufw
[23:20] <chalcedony> ricardoromao, i can see where that would be frustrating, maybe try the command line installation?
[23:20] <corigo> Do I need to do something? If I type exit, it will continue and boot, but that shouldn't be required
[23:20] <csolisr> escott: Closing the GUFW window.
[23:20] <html> ikonia,  i say thanks , but ubuntubot is what i what to get me started ,,, like !help |html
[23:21] <csolisr> Starting UFW from console doesn't work.
[23:21] <ricardoromao> chalcedony: I've tried the alternate install, but still the same
[23:21] <recon69_lap> got a weirdness with firefox, the firefox window is missing the title bar with min/close buttons, and it's stuck to the top left of screen. anyone know how to fix
[23:21] <escott> corigo, you are in the initramfs because your root system cannot be found. what is the output of cat /proc/cmdline and blkid
[23:21] <html> !andriod | html
[23:21] <lapiz> help please
[23:22] <peppux> hello
[23:22] <ricardoromao> lapiz: do you want to recovery your password?
[23:22] <lapiz> yes
[23:22] <lapiz> that is
[23:22] <lapiz> how could I do it?
[23:23] <ricardoromao> lapiz: do this, boot the computer and when appear the grub, press esc and edit the grub line of kernel, adding single at the end of the line
[23:23] <escott> csolisr, so you have gufw open and you see rules in sudo iptables -L, but when you close gufw sudo iptables -L says nothing
[23:23] <peppux> im installing ubuntu server 11.10 in raid 1, but when i finish to install it, after reboot the bios take me this message: operating system not found. why?
[23:23] <escott> peppux, what kind of raid is this
[23:23] <corigo> B00T_IMAGE=/boot/mvlinuz-3.0.0-13- generic root=UUID=... ro quitet splash vt>handoff=7
[23:23] <ricardoromao> peppux: are you installed the grub at MBR ?
[23:24] <corigo> can't open /proc/blked
[23:24] <corigo> can't open /proc/blkid
[23:24] <peppux> ricardoromao: yes
[23:24] <lapiz> Ricardo, i don't understand a word Do I need to reinstall my system?
[23:24] <escott> corigo, you hit the part that was useful. namely the uuid. and blkid is a program not a file
[23:24] <peppux> escott: raid 1
[23:24] <csolisr> escott: Well, I just tried it and iptables -L keeps working after closing GUFW
[23:24] <csolisr> It's until I reboot that the problems arise
[23:25] <escott> peppux, but what raid controller, mdadm or some kind of hardware raid
[23:25] <peppux> escott: mdadm
[23:25] <lapiz> what is the grub ? i just speak a little english
[23:25] <nando> can someone help me get my broadcom b4306 wireless adapter working. Cant remember what I did the last time. Ive done it a few times i just cant remember what I did.
[23:25] <ricardoromao> lapiz, where are you from ?
[23:25] <escott> csolisr, that makes sense. there is a service called iptables-save and iptables-restore that saves and loads the rules. add it to your boot with rc-update
[23:25] <lapiz> Spain
[23:26] <csolisr> escott: The command would be "sudo rc-update"...?
[23:26] <recon69_lap> thinks nando needs to take notes
[23:26] <ricardoromao> I'll search some help to you, give me a  minute
[23:26] <nando> hahah yeah I do
[23:26] <corigo> escott: so you want me to run blkid on the UUID?
[23:26] <allanjum> hola
[23:26] <lapiz> hola?
[23:26] <allanjum> Hi XD
[23:26] <csolisr> allanjum: Hola, pero recuerde que acá es en inglés. Speak English please.
[23:26] <escott> corigo, no i want you to run blkid and try to find that uuid
[23:26] <ricardoromao> lapiz: follow this steps: http://www.debuntu.org/recover-root-password-single-user-mode-and-grub
[23:26] <csolisr> En español es #ubuntu-es creo
[23:27] <klj613> hello, when i execute "sudo apt-get install php5-fpm" it says theres no installation candidate? what am i doing wrong
[23:27] <nando> anyone
[23:27] <ricardoromao> klj613, nothing, the package dont exists
[23:28] <corigo> cmdline tells me the UUID already
[23:28] <csolisr> escott: There's no "rc-update" command.
[23:28] <chalcedony> how can i find the path to a directory?
[23:29] <nando> can someone help me get my broadcom b4306 wireless adapter working. Cant remember what I did the last time. Ive done it a few times i just cant remember what I did.
[23:29] <escott> csolisr, update-rc.d
[23:30] <csolisr> escott: Is it /var/etc/update-rc.d/networking ?
[23:30] <lapiz> Ok I'll try it. Thank's
[23:30] <csolisr> * var/lib
[23:30] <corigo> what should I do with it?
[23:31] <cebrere> hey how can i find out which version of ubuntu that i'm running
[23:32] <peppux> why can't i remove a raid partition?
[23:32] <mdel> can anyone recommend a bluetooth adapter from amazon?
[23:32] <mdel> peppux: cat /proc/version
[23:32] <ricardoromao> someone could help me with ubuntu 11.10 usb install into hp pavilion dv6 with amd A8, when the install page appear, the LCD goes off and dont turn on again to proced the install, i tried acpi=off and noapic, but didnt work :(
[23:32] <gbase> ²²²/wc
[23:32] <peppux> mdel: im with livecd
[23:32] <peppux> mdel: i want to install ubuntu server
[23:32] <escott> csolisr,  it may just be iptables-save https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Saving_iptables
[23:33] <mdel> peppux: so?
[23:33] <peppux> mdel: ubuntu server 11.10
[23:33] <mdel> err, sorry
[23:33] <mdel> that was for cebrere
[23:33] <peppux> mdel: ?
[23:33] <escott> corigo, no cmdline tells you want it is looking for. we need to know if that device exists
[23:34] <mdel> peppux: i was telling cebrere how to find the currently running version of ubuntu
[23:34] <corigo> yes it does
[23:34] <mdel> not sure about your issue
[23:34] <corigo> cmd line only lists the boot partition though, and not the swap or tertiary drives
[23:35] <peppux> mdel: ok
[23:36] <corigo> escott: blkid tells me that /dev/sda1 matches the UUID in the command line it also tells me the UUID of my swap partition and the 3 RAID member drives
[23:37] <escott> corigo, so that means it should be able to find the root partition. which suggests that the root partition might be corrupted. you can try to mount it ro, and fsck it from within the initramfs, or you could boot a livecd
[23:37] <csolisr> escott: I've been reading. There are several options, some of which may break other programs
[23:37] <csolisr> Currently I'm using UFW. Which method would you recommend me?
[23:37] <corigo> escott: if I simply type exit, it will boot to the boot partition no problem
[23:38] <escott> csolisr, ill be honest im not sure how mine get restored. i just know that they are
[23:38] <corigo> but my RAID5 will be inactive
[23:38] <lapiz> hi
[23:41] <corigo> I can mount it, but fsck is not found
[23:42] <escott> corigo, fsck is not in the initramfs, you have to chroot to the real root and then fsck
[23:42] <lapiz> I've lost my password for the chat xchat. someone told me to try 'http://deubuntu.org/recover-root-password-single-user-mode-and-grub' but there are too many entrys
[23:42] <csolisr> Fine. If it doesn't work on the next boot I'll ask again
[23:43] <escott> lapiz, they did not understand your question. if you just need an irc password then see !register
[23:43] <escott> !register | lapiz
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> lapiz: ask in #freenode for your IRC password reset
[23:45] <mdel> can anyone recommend a bluetooth adapter from amazon that will work with linux
[23:46] <corigo> escott: so your initial suggestion was to 'mount -ro /dev/sda1' yes?
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> mdel: bluetooth is bluetooth, there are tiny cheap ones which work well
[23:46] <mdel> ActionParsnip: not true... some do not work without the proper drivers
[23:46] <mdel> some of which are proprietary
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> mdel: never seen that ever
[23:47] <mdel> ActionParsnip: its all over the net...
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> mdel: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Micro-Bluetooth-USB-Dongle-Version/dp/B0013BFQUE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323042437&sr=8-1
[23:47] <mdel> ActionParsnip: awesome
[23:47] <mdel> gotta find it in the US now.. :)
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> cheap as chips, literally
[23:48] <CriM> Alguien habla español
[23:48] <CriM> ?
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> !es
[23:49] <villevic> Hello, I have a question
[23:49] <villevic> Is it possible to perform a netinstall from the standard cd
[23:49] <villevic> Not the alternative one
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> villevic: not sure, good question
[23:50] <villevic> Really hope so,
[23:50] <blackstratusrt> ng
[23:50] <villevic> Cause don't have any cds left and my livecd wont install, always have that problem with debian distros
[23:52] <villevic> ng questionmark
[23:53] <dueyfinster> exit
[23:53] <villevic> But what is the name of the alternative installer
[23:53] <villevic> maybe it's included on the livecd aswell
[23:55] <MR_JOC> hey averyone
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> villevic: try a usb install
[23:55] <villevic> no usbstick either
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> gah
[23:56] <villevic> If i could just find out what the installer is called
[23:56] <villevic> maybe I can just launch it from terminal
[23:57] <meerkats> is quake free to play?
[23:57] <villevic> Darn, irritating
[23:58] <villevic> I wish there was a netinstall option available on the livecd
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: the engine is free, the levels and textures etc (wads) are not
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> !find quake
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> !info ioquake3
[23:59] <atdiehm_lappy> which is the generally preferred app for ipod management?  I've been trying with for a few hours and can't get anything to save... was wondering if this is the one most used, or if I should try something else...