[02:26] <linas> sooo ... I upgraded to upstart .... and now my computer hangs during boot...
[02:27] <linas> I'm, trying to debug with init=/bin/sh .. but where's the best place to ask for this kind of help?
[02:27] <linas> the hang happend after fsck finishes... 
[02:28] <linas> saying init --verbose and then looking at dmesg says this:
[02:28] <linas> init: mounted-tmp state changed from post-stop to waiting
[02:28] <linas> init:Handling stopped event
[02:29] <linas> init: Handling mounting event
[02:29] <linas> and that's all .. it s just hung .. 
[02:30] <linas> ahh hmm
[02:30] <linas> all my file system are mounted, except one .. 
[02:30] <linas> the one that is not mounted is one that uses the device mapper
[02:31] <linas> its a logical volume an lvm-managed filesystem
[02:31] <linas> so maybe uspart/mountalll doesn't like lvm  ?
[02:33] <linas> if there's a better channel for this, let me know ... 
[02:35] <linas> .. manually trying to mount says mount: special device /dev/mapper/bla-blah does not exist
[02:35] <linas> so the device mapper didn't run or something...
[02:36] <linas> lsmod doesn't seem to show device-mapper maodules .. hmm
[02:38] <linas> well, a good a time as any to figure out how device mapper is supposed to work.
[02:38] <linas> but is there a way to tell upstart to just move on, and finish booting?  cause i DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THE MISSING FILESYSTEM...
[02:39] <linas> WHOOPs bad capslock
[02:39] <linas> sorry
[02:58] <linas> arghhh ... so I commented out the lvm volume in /etc/fstab and now the boot goes much farther.
[02:59] <linas> a bunch of daemons get started, including the lvm daemon.   (!)
[03:00] <linas> so clearly, mountall was trying to mount lvm volumes wayy too early
[03:01] <linas> but now, it crashes in fsck, since this time, fsck is beeing run a second time !?!?! and since all the file systems are already mounted, it stoo late for that.
[03:01] <linas> so wtf ... 
[03:01] <linas> must be left-over grunge in /etc/init.d and some backwards-compat thingy in upstart...
[10:35] <JanC> linas: you say you just upgraded to upstart, but you don't say which OS (version) you are on, so it's not obvious which jobs you are using...
[10:40] <JanC> (e.g. Ubuntu uses different upstart jobs than ChromeOS, and different versions of Ubuntu have improved the upstart jobs they use too)