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ulyssesJontheEchidna: did you see this? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Muon+Icon?content=14561006:23
valoriesorta cool -- I would take out the "1" though06:31
kio_httpHi I was wondering when we would get packages for KDE 4.7.4 for 11.10 (There are some fixes in there that interest me). Also 4.8 Beta 1 for 11.10 or precise if that's possible?07:48
valoriehi kio, it looks like the ninjas are still packaging that07:53
valoriewe've had some serious challenges recently07:53
valorieI suggest writing to Kubuntu-devel list to ask07:55
kio_httpvalorie: I see was that about 4.7.4 or 4.8 (i think 4.8 is the difficult one)08:03
valoriewe're missing our heavy hitters right now08:05
valorieRiddell was injured, I'm not sure where apachelogger_ is, ScottK is busy at work, and Darkwing is just coming back from a computer crash08:06
kio_httpvalorie: I see that's a real pitty08:07
valorieI'm sure it will pick up soon08:08
valorieand when the students break from school, we'll really get cooking08:08
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kio_httpvalorie: I am a Windows developer, I'm quite proficient in VB.net and C# and I have done debian packaging before (I don't remember much now), what do you think is the best path for me to start making qt GUI applications I would need databases as well maybe mysql instead of MS SQL 2k8r208:35
KRFkio_http: there are quite extensive examples in the qt docs (also for DB access)08:38
KRFjust google for it08:38
kio_httpKRF: I know, but if I understand well to use qt, I need to know C++?08:42
KRFif you know C#, it shouldn't be too hard. Qt doesn't expose the darkest parts of C++.08:43
kio_httpKRF: I see, what about python and ruby?08:46
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alleeI assume that unity does not use oxygen as it's default theme.  So all apps/ with icons in oxygen-icon-theme (e.g. digikam bug 781728 ) look ugly.   Ohters apps install their icons in default fallback theme hicolor  (e.g. kate:   dpkg -S apps/kate. )   What's the recommended way to fix it?   Hicolor Icons in digikam-data like for kate?12:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 781728 in digikam (Ubuntu) "digikam icon does not scale in unity (Ubuntu 11.04)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78172812:36
alleeokay, all  apps that have their icons only in oxygen-icon-theme are affected.  Additionaly  app-install data does not include find app icons in oxygen-icon-theme, so it will look ugly in gnome environment :(13:05
Riddellallee: unity should install "digikam" icons and those should be used when unity icon is selected13:14
Riddellwe didn't have an alpha 1 right?14:11
Tm_Twe didn't?14:13
debfxyes, no one tested the images14:13
Tm_TRiddell: and welcome back, hopefully have all right now (:14:13
Tonio__hey Riddell !! Just read an email about you... I was shocked :(14:14
Tonio__I hope you're doing well...14:14
Tonio__seeing you here probably means "I'm okay"....14:14
alleeRiddell:  really?  we (plasma-desktop) do not install any gnome icons for use is case this gnome-app is installed, don't we?   IMHO digikam should place icons in the 'right' directories.  I.E.  default fallback theme (that's hicolor).  Instead 'assuming' everyone has oxygen-icon-theme in the icon search path.14:15
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Tonio_hi everyone btw14:15
alleeTonio_: Hi!!14:15
Tonio_allee: long time no see14:15
alleeTonio_: yes.  I don't find much time for kubuntu :(14:16
Tonio_same with me... I don't find the time, due to preparing my wedding, having a baby and so on14:16
Tonio_allee: also hard to find out motivation anymore... youngsters are doing it now, and are doing well14:17
Tonio_time to let them raise the flamme probably ;)14:17
Tonio_allee: what are the news appart from that ?14:18
Riddellhi Tonio_, I'm recovering slowly14:19
Riddellallee: it should use oxygen unless there's nothing else installed, if unity wants to provide its own icons it should install digikam icons in the unity directory14:20
Tonio_Riddell: no visible injuries, scars and so on on the long term ? I read you had bandages on half the face...14:20
RiddellTonio_: I have one eye patched, like a pirate14:24
Tonio_Riddell: I hope that's temporary ?14:24
debfxallee: that's a bug in the digikam package: usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/digikam.png exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere [...]14:26
alleeTonio_: nothing earth saking, excpet that my daugther has now a 'test' driving license.  So I have sit now next to here14:27
Tonio_;)14:27
Tonio_I'm very far from that, my lil' girl is 2 month old :)14:28
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alleedebfx: I'll check if it's the old icon or the new one.    AFAIU it would be best if upstream would move all icons below apps/... to their application package and install in hicolor.14:30
debfxallee: applications should always install icons in hicolor and optionally add other variants for specific themes14:32
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RiddellTonio_: I hope so too but could take a week or some months to sort14:43
BarkingFishRiddell: just to let you know, I didn't manage to get any further with Libsndfile1 last night - I can't figure out what's up with it, so I'm gonna have to file on launchpad for it to be sorted.14:51
BarkingFishI've discovered it doesn't only affect audacity, it also affects VLC and kdenlive as well, kdenlive won't export audio in .wav and vlc won't encode anything whatsoever.14:51
Tonio_Riddell: ouch !14:56
Tonio_a month is quite a lot14:57
Tonio_to wait before knowing...14:57
Riddellyes I'll get bored before then14:59
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RiddellI'll take kubuntu gentle this week but get back into it as I feel able15:00
BarkingFishEr... ladies and gentleman, houston has one hell of a problem.15:01
yofelBarkingFish: ?15:02
BarkingFishI just tried to report this bug (the libsndfile1 issue) and apport-bug has given me a very stern warning.  "Problem in linux-image-3.0.0-14.... This bug cannot be reported - This is NOT a genuine ubuntu package"15:03
BarkingFishthis was while it was collecting system data for the report15:03
yofelhm, does 'apt-cache policy linux-image-3.0.0-14-generic' list a server it's avaliable on?15:04
BarkingFishone moment, I'll check - in the mean time, this is what it handed me - http://imgur.com/ZrAcL15:06
yofelyeah, I know, problem is it relies on a working apt-cache for that check15:07
BarkingFishI'll show you the output - be better if I paste it, it's over the 3 line limit15:07
BarkingFishhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/760518/15:08
BarkingFishI dunno where I got that from, musta been before I took out all the PPA's and repos which bogged my system last time 15:09
BarkingFishi don't see it on apper15:09
alleedebfx: I agree.  I'll bug upstream.15:17
debfxallee: I think upstream does the right thing, the package just doesn't install the hicolor icons15:18
yofelBarkingFish: -14 is from oneiric-proposed, enable it, refresh the cache, file bug, disable proposed again15:20
BarkingFishah, ok15:20
BarkingFishthanks yofel - I took out -proposed because of all the kde 4.7.3 stuff which bust my system  and lead to me downgrading to 4.7.2 L(15:20
BarkingFishguess I musta got that before I disabled the pool15:21
alleedebfx: digikam 2.1.1 builddepends on mysql-server ???  Not a lib or mysql-server-core.  Any idea why?15:37
BarkingFishyofel: Do you think there is anything else which I should add to this entry?15:39
BarkingFishhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsndfile/+bug/90033215:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 900332 in libsndfile (Ubuntu) "libsndfile1 unable to encode .wav files" [Undecided,New]15:39
yofelBarkingFish: looks fine to me15:40
BarkingFishok, no probs - I'll leave it out there and see what happens.15:41
BarkingFishThe problem is, I tried to take the offending file off, which unfortunately, wants to remove 177 other packages at the same time, including most of KDE15:41
BarkingFishI've tried reinstalling it, which has absolutely no effect whatsoever.15:42
BarkingFishback in a sec, looks like while apport-bug was running, it took my sound out.  15:45
BarkingFishsee you in a moment15:45
alleedebfx: ah, they check for existance of mysql binaries.  So looks like mysql-server-core would be enough.  Still very strange ...15:46
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ScottKAny objection to me trying to get 4.7.3 into -proposed this week?16:40
BarkingFishScottK: How is the bug ironing on 4.7.3 going?  There were quite a few there when I tried it from Neon's PPA17:00
ScottKDunno.  I may have time later in the week to check.17:01
BarkingFishWell there was the Panel failing to respond to clicks, kernel panics while using ndiswrapper & knetworkmanager, and the biggest of them was plasma-desktop's decision to freely close itself down with a segfault at random times during your session :) 17:02
BarkingFishthis is why I backed out of 4.7.3 and downgraded back to 4.7.2, lot of issues I couldn't put up with :)17:03
ScottKThat last one I have with 4.7.2.17:03
BarkingFishnow I don't.  I'm on 4.7.2 and it hasn't happened since I downgraded17:03
Riddellno objection to 4.7.3 in -proposed17:18
yofelneither from me - got a plan what to do with soprano ScottK?17:30
alleeyofel: upstream 'strongly' suggest to use 2.6.3 with 4.7.3.   I've rebuild presice soprano on oneiric (no change required).  In the first hours I noticed less .xsession-errors msg  but did do many checks yet17:33
allees/2.6.3/2.7.3/17:33
ScottKI figured to put it in under a separate bug at the same time.17:34
ScottKDue to the upstream recommendation.17:34
yofelsounds good17:34
BarkingFishI don't have any objections to 4.7.3 being in proposed either, on the proviso that those key bugs with it are swatted before it goes out to people :)17:49
rbelem_Quintasan_, Riddell, pyside is part of the qt-project now18:46
alleeas 4.7.4 will be the last 4.7 how about pkg 4.7.4 as soon as possible and backports this to oneiric instead?18:58
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ScottKBecause I have time this week and not at some arbitrary time in the future.21:30
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