ulysses | JontheEchidna: did you see this? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Muon+Icon?content=145610 | 06:23 |
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valorie | sorta cool -- I would take out the "1" though | 06:31 |
kio_http | Hi I was wondering when we would get packages for KDE 4.7.4 for 11.10 (There are some fixes in there that interest me). Also 4.8 Beta 1 for 11.10 or precise if that's possible? | 07:48 |
valorie | hi kio, it looks like the ninjas are still packaging that | 07:53 |
valorie | we've had some serious challenges recently | 07:53 |
valorie | I suggest writing to Kubuntu-devel list to ask | 07:55 |
kio_http | valorie: I see was that about 4.7.4 or 4.8 (i think 4.8 is the difficult one) | 08:03 |
valorie | we're missing our heavy hitters right now | 08:05 |
valorie | Riddell was injured, I'm not sure where apachelogger_ is, ScottK is busy at work, and Darkwing is just coming back from a computer crash | 08:06 |
kio_http | valorie: I see that's a real pitty | 08:07 |
valorie | I'm sure it will pick up soon | 08:08 |
valorie | and when the students break from school, we'll really get cooking | 08:08 |
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kio_http | valorie: I am a Windows developer, I'm quite proficient in VB.net and C# and I have done debian packaging before (I don't remember much now), what do you think is the best path for me to start making qt GUI applications I would need databases as well maybe mysql instead of MS SQL 2k8r2 | 08:35 |
KRF | kio_http: there are quite extensive examples in the qt docs (also for DB access) | 08:38 |
KRF | just google for it | 08:38 |
kio_http | KRF: I know, but if I understand well to use qt, I need to know C++? | 08:42 |
KRF | if you know C#, it shouldn't be too hard. Qt doesn't expose the darkest parts of C++. | 08:43 |
kio_http | KRF: I see, what about python and ruby? | 08:46 |
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allee | I assume that unity does not use oxygen as it's default theme. So all apps/ with icons in oxygen-icon-theme (e.g. digikam bug 781728 ) look ugly. Ohters apps install their icons in default fallback theme hicolor (e.g. kate: dpkg -S apps/kate. ) What's the recommended way to fix it? Hicolor Icons in digikam-data like for kate? | 12:36 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 781728 in digikam (Ubuntu) "digikam icon does not scale in unity (Ubuntu 11.04)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/781728 | 12:36 |
allee | okay, all apps that have their icons only in oxygen-icon-theme are affected. Additionaly app-install data does not include find app icons in oxygen-icon-theme, so it will look ugly in gnome environment :( | 13:05 |
Riddell | allee: unity should install "digikam" icons and those should be used when unity icon is selected | 13:14 |
Riddell | we didn't have an alpha 1 right? | 14:11 |
Tm_T | we didn't? | 14:13 |
debfx | yes, no one tested the images | 14:13 |
Tm_T | Riddell: and welcome back, hopefully have all right now (: | 14:13 |
Tonio__ | hey Riddell !! Just read an email about you... I was shocked :( | 14:14 |
Tonio__ | I hope you're doing well... | 14:14 |
Tonio__ | seeing you here probably means "I'm okay".... | 14:14 |
allee | Riddell: really? we (plasma-desktop) do not install any gnome icons for use is case this gnome-app is installed, don't we? IMHO digikam should place icons in the 'right' directories. I.E. default fallback theme (that's hicolor). Instead 'assuming' everyone has oxygen-icon-theme in the icon search path. | 14:15 |
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Tonio_ | hi everyone btw | 14:15 |
allee | Tonio_: Hi!! | 14:15 |
Tonio_ | allee: long time no see | 14:15 |
allee | Tonio_: yes. I don't find much time for kubuntu :( | 14:16 |
Tonio_ | same with me... I don't find the time, due to preparing my wedding, having a baby and so on | 14:16 |
Tonio_ | allee: also hard to find out motivation anymore... youngsters are doing it now, and are doing well | 14:17 |
Tonio_ | time to let them raise the flamme probably ;) | 14:17 |
Tonio_ | allee: what are the news appart from that ? | 14:18 |
Riddell | hi Tonio_, I'm recovering slowly | 14:19 |
Riddell | allee: it should use oxygen unless there's nothing else installed, if unity wants to provide its own icons it should install digikam icons in the unity directory | 14:20 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: no visible injuries, scars and so on on the long term ? I read you had bandages on half the face... | 14:20 |
Riddell | Tonio_: I have one eye patched, like a pirate | 14:24 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I hope that's temporary ? | 14:24 |
debfx | allee: that's a bug in the digikam package: usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/digikam.png exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere [...] | 14:26 |
allee | Tonio_: nothing earth saking, excpet that my daugther has now a 'test' driving license. So I have sit now next to here | 14:27 |
Tonio_ | ;) | 14:27 |
Tonio_ | I'm very far from that, my lil' girl is 2 month old :) | 14:28 |
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allee | debfx: I'll check if it's the old icon or the new one. AFAIU it would be best if upstream would move all icons below apps/... to their application package and install in hicolor. | 14:30 |
debfx | allee: applications should always install icons in hicolor and optionally add other variants for specific themes | 14:32 |
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Riddell | Tonio_: I hope so too but could take a week or some months to sort | 14:43 |
BarkingFish | Riddell: just to let you know, I didn't manage to get any further with Libsndfile1 last night - I can't figure out what's up with it, so I'm gonna have to file on launchpad for it to be sorted. | 14:51 |
BarkingFish | I've discovered it doesn't only affect audacity, it also affects VLC and kdenlive as well, kdenlive won't export audio in .wav and vlc won't encode anything whatsoever. | 14:51 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: ouch ! | 14:56 |
Tonio_ | a month is quite a lot | 14:57 |
Tonio_ | to wait before knowing... | 14:57 |
Riddell | yes I'll get bored before then | 14:59 |
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Riddell | I'll take kubuntu gentle this week but get back into it as I feel able | 15:00 |
BarkingFish | Er... ladies and gentleman, houston has one hell of a problem. | 15:01 |
yofel | BarkingFish: ? | 15:02 |
BarkingFish | I just tried to report this bug (the libsndfile1 issue) and apport-bug has given me a very stern warning. "Problem in linux-image-3.0.0-14.... This bug cannot be reported - This is NOT a genuine ubuntu package" | 15:03 |
BarkingFish | this was while it was collecting system data for the report | 15:03 |
yofel | hm, does 'apt-cache policy linux-image-3.0.0-14-generic' list a server it's avaliable on? | 15:04 |
BarkingFish | one moment, I'll check - in the mean time, this is what it handed me - http://imgur.com/ZrAcL | 15:06 |
yofel | yeah, I know, problem is it relies on a working apt-cache for that check | 15:07 |
BarkingFish | I'll show you the output - be better if I paste it, it's over the 3 line limit | 15:07 |
BarkingFish | http://paste.ubuntu.com/760518/ | 15:08 |
BarkingFish | I dunno where I got that from, musta been before I took out all the PPA's and repos which bogged my system last time | 15:09 |
BarkingFish | i don't see it on apper | 15:09 |
allee | debfx: I agree. I'll bug upstream. | 15:17 |
debfx | allee: I think upstream does the right thing, the package just doesn't install the hicolor icons | 15:18 |
yofel | BarkingFish: -14 is from oneiric-proposed, enable it, refresh the cache, file bug, disable proposed again | 15:20 |
BarkingFish | ah, ok | 15:20 |
BarkingFish | thanks yofel - I took out -proposed because of all the kde 4.7.3 stuff which bust my system and lead to me downgrading to 4.7.2 L( | 15:20 |
BarkingFish | guess I musta got that before I disabled the pool | 15:21 |
allee | debfx: digikam 2.1.1 builddepends on mysql-server ??? Not a lib or mysql-server-core. Any idea why? | 15:37 |
BarkingFish | yofel: Do you think there is anything else which I should add to this entry? | 15:39 |
BarkingFish | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsndfile/+bug/900332 | 15:39 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 900332 in libsndfile (Ubuntu) "libsndfile1 unable to encode .wav files" [Undecided,New] | 15:39 |
yofel | BarkingFish: looks fine to me | 15:40 |
BarkingFish | ok, no probs - I'll leave it out there and see what happens. | 15:41 |
BarkingFish | The problem is, I tried to take the offending file off, which unfortunately, wants to remove 177 other packages at the same time, including most of KDE | 15:41 |
BarkingFish | I've tried reinstalling it, which has absolutely no effect whatsoever. | 15:42 |
BarkingFish | back in a sec, looks like while apport-bug was running, it took my sound out. | 15:45 |
BarkingFish | see you in a moment | 15:45 |
allee | debfx: ah, they check for existance of mysql binaries. So looks like mysql-server-core would be enough. Still very strange ... | 15:46 |
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ScottK | Any objection to me trying to get 4.7.3 into -proposed this week? | 16:40 |
BarkingFish | ScottK: How is the bug ironing on 4.7.3 going? There were quite a few there when I tried it from Neon's PPA | 17:00 |
ScottK | Dunno. I may have time later in the week to check. | 17:01 |
BarkingFish | Well there was the Panel failing to respond to clicks, kernel panics while using ndiswrapper & knetworkmanager, and the biggest of them was plasma-desktop's decision to freely close itself down with a segfault at random times during your session :) | 17:02 |
BarkingFish | this is why I backed out of 4.7.3 and downgraded back to 4.7.2, lot of issues I couldn't put up with :) | 17:03 |
ScottK | That last one I have with 4.7.2. | 17:03 |
BarkingFish | now I don't. I'm on 4.7.2 and it hasn't happened since I downgraded | 17:03 |
Riddell | no objection to 4.7.3 in -proposed | 17:18 |
yofel | neither from me - got a plan what to do with soprano ScottK? | 17:30 |
allee | yofel: upstream 'strongly' suggest to use 2.6.3 with 4.7.3. I've rebuild presice soprano on oneiric (no change required). In the first hours I noticed less .xsession-errors msg but did do many checks yet | 17:33 |
allee | s/2.6.3/2.7.3/ | 17:33 |
ScottK | I figured to put it in under a separate bug at the same time. | 17:34 |
ScottK | Due to the upstream recommendation. | 17:34 |
yofel | sounds good | 17:34 |
BarkingFish | I don't have any objections to 4.7.3 being in proposed either, on the proviso that those key bugs with it are swatted before it goes out to people :) | 17:49 |
rbelem_ | Quintasan_, Riddell, pyside is part of the qt-project now | 18:46 |
allee | as 4.7.4 will be the last 4.7 how about pkg 4.7.4 as soon as possible and backports this to oneiric instead? | 18:58 |
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ScottK | Because I have time this week and not at some arbitrary time in the future. | 21:30 |
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