[06:23] JontheEchidna: did you see this? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Muon+Icon?content=145610 [06:31] sorta cool -- I would take out the "1" though [07:48] Hi I was wondering when we would get packages for KDE 4.7.4 for 11.10 (There are some fixes in there that interest me). Also 4.8 Beta 1 for 11.10 or precise if that's possible? [07:53] hi kio, it looks like the ninjas are still packaging that [07:53] we've had some serious challenges recently [07:55] I suggest writing to Kubuntu-devel list to ask [08:03] valorie: I see was that about 4.7.4 or 4.8 (i think 4.8 is the difficult one) [08:05] we're missing our heavy hitters right now [08:06] Riddell was injured, I'm not sure where apachelogger_ is, ScottK is busy at work, and Darkwing is just coming back from a computer crash [08:07] valorie: I see that's a real pitty [08:08] I'm sure it will pick up soon [08:08] and when the students break from school, we'll really get cooking === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage [08:35] valorie: I am a Windows developer, I'm quite proficient in VB.net and C# and I have done debian packaging before (I don't remember much now), what do you think is the best path for me to start making qt GUI applications I would need databases as well maybe mysql instead of MS SQL 2k8r2 [08:38] kio_http: there are quite extensive examples in the qt docs (also for DB access) [08:38] just google for it [08:42] KRF: I know, but if I understand well to use qt, I need to know C++? [08:43] if you know C#, it shouldn't be too hard. Qt doesn't expose the darkest parts of C++. [08:46] KRF: I see, what about python and ruby? === mck182 is now known as mck182|lunch === Guest5602 is now known as ryanakca === mck182|lunch is now known as mck182 [12:36] I assume that unity does not use oxygen as it's default theme. So all apps/ with icons in oxygen-icon-theme (e.g. digikam bug 781728 ) look ugly. Ohters apps install their icons in default fallback theme hicolor (e.g. kate: dpkg -S apps/kate. ) What's the recommended way to fix it? Hicolor Icons in digikam-data like for kate? [12:36] Launchpad bug 781728 in digikam (Ubuntu) "digikam icon does not scale in unity (Ubuntu 11.04)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/781728 [13:05] okay, all apps that have their icons only in oxygen-icon-theme are affected. Additionaly app-install data does not include find app icons in oxygen-icon-theme, so it will look ugly in gnome environment :( [13:14] allee: unity should install "digikam" icons and those should be used when unity icon is selected [14:11] we didn't have an alpha 1 right? [14:13] we didn't? [14:13] yes, no one tested the images [14:13] Riddell: and welcome back, hopefully have all right now (: [14:14] hey Riddell !! Just read an email about you... I was shocked :( [14:14] I hope you're doing well... [14:14] seeing you here probably means "I'm okay".... [14:15] Riddell: really? we (plasma-desktop) do not install any gnome icons for use is case this gnome-app is installed, don't we? IMHO digikam should place icons in the 'right' directories. I.E. default fallback theme (that's hicolor). Instead 'assuming' everyone has oxygen-icon-theme in the icon search path. === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [14:15] hi everyone btw [14:15] Tonio_: Hi!! [14:15] allee: long time no see [14:16] Tonio_: yes. I don't find much time for kubuntu :( [14:16] same with me... I don't find the time, due to preparing my wedding, having a baby and so on [14:17] allee: also hard to find out motivation anymore... youngsters are doing it now, and are doing well [14:17] time to let them raise the flamme probably ;) [14:18] allee: what are the news appart from that ? [14:19] hi Tonio_, I'm recovering slowly [14:20] allee: it should use oxygen unless there's nothing else installed, if unity wants to provide its own icons it should install digikam icons in the unity directory [14:20] Riddell: no visible injuries, scars and so on on the long term ? I read you had bandages on half the face... [14:24] Tonio_: I have one eye patched, like a pirate [14:24] Riddell: I hope that's temporary ? [14:26] allee: that's a bug in the digikam package: usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/digikam.png exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere [...] [14:27] Tonio_: nothing earth saking, excpet that my daugther has now a 'test' driving license. So I have sit now next to here [14:27] ;) [14:28] I'm very far from that, my lil' girl is 2 month old :) === cmagina_ is now known as cmagina [14:30] debfx: I'll check if it's the old icon or the new one. AFAIU it would be best if upstream would move all icons below apps/... to their application package and install in hicolor. [14:32] allee: applications should always install icons in hicolor and optionally add other variants for specific themes === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:43] Tonio_: I hope so too but could take a week or some months to sort [14:51] Riddell: just to let you know, I didn't manage to get any further with Libsndfile1 last night - I can't figure out what's up with it, so I'm gonna have to file on launchpad for it to be sorted. [14:51] I've discovered it doesn't only affect audacity, it also affects VLC and kdenlive as well, kdenlive won't export audio in .wav and vlc won't encode anything whatsoever. [14:56] Riddell: ouch ! [14:57] a month is quite a lot [14:57] to wait before knowing... [14:59] yes I'll get bored before then === skfin is now known as atomiydinenergia === atomiydinenergia is now known as skfin [15:00] I'll take kubuntu gentle this week but get back into it as I feel able [15:01] Er... ladies and gentleman, houston has one hell of a problem. [15:02] BarkingFish: ? [15:03] I just tried to report this bug (the libsndfile1 issue) and apport-bug has given me a very stern warning. "Problem in linux-image-3.0.0-14.... This bug cannot be reported - This is NOT a genuine ubuntu package" [15:03] this was while it was collecting system data for the report [15:04] hm, does 'apt-cache policy linux-image-3.0.0-14-generic' list a server it's avaliable on? [15:06] one moment, I'll check - in the mean time, this is what it handed me - http://imgur.com/ZrAcL [15:07] yeah, I know, problem is it relies on a working apt-cache for that check [15:07] I'll show you the output - be better if I paste it, it's over the 3 line limit [15:08] http://paste.ubuntu.com/760518/ [15:09] I dunno where I got that from, musta been before I took out all the PPA's and repos which bogged my system last time [15:09] i don't see it on apper [15:17] debfx: I agree. I'll bug upstream. [15:18] allee: I think upstream does the right thing, the package just doesn't install the hicolor icons [15:20] BarkingFish: -14 is from oneiric-proposed, enable it, refresh the cache, file bug, disable proposed again [15:20] ah, ok [15:20] thanks yofel - I took out -proposed because of all the kde 4.7.3 stuff which bust my system and lead to me downgrading to 4.7.2 L( [15:21] guess I musta got that before I disabled the pool [15:37] debfx: digikam 2.1.1 builddepends on mysql-server ??? Not a lib or mysql-server-core. Any idea why? [15:39] yofel: Do you think there is anything else which I should add to this entry? [15:39] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsndfile/+bug/900332 [15:39] Launchpad bug 900332 in libsndfile (Ubuntu) "libsndfile1 unable to encode .wav files" [Undecided,New] [15:40] BarkingFish: looks fine to me [15:41] ok, no probs - I'll leave it out there and see what happens. [15:41] The problem is, I tried to take the offending file off, which unfortunately, wants to remove 177 other packages at the same time, including most of KDE [15:42] I've tried reinstalling it, which has absolutely no effect whatsoever. [15:45] back in a sec, looks like while apport-bug was running, it took my sound out. [15:45] see you in a moment [15:46] debfx: ah, they check for existance of mysql binaries. So looks like mysql-server-core would be enough. Still very strange ... === mck182 is now known as mck182|afk === Guest76640 is now known as NCommander === NCommander is now known as Guest67564 === Guest67564 is now known as NCommander [16:40] Any objection to me trying to get 4.7.3 into -proposed this week? [17:00] ScottK: How is the bug ironing on 4.7.3 going? There were quite a few there when I tried it from Neon's PPA [17:01] Dunno. I may have time later in the week to check. [17:02] Well there was the Panel failing to respond to clicks, kernel panics while using ndiswrapper & knetworkmanager, and the biggest of them was plasma-desktop's decision to freely close itself down with a segfault at random times during your session :) [17:03] this is why I backed out of 4.7.3 and downgraded back to 4.7.2, lot of issues I couldn't put up with :) [17:03] That last one I have with 4.7.2. [17:03] now I don't. I'm on 4.7.2 and it hasn't happened since I downgraded [17:18] no objection to 4.7.3 in -proposed [17:30] neither from me - got a plan what to do with soprano ScottK? [17:33] yofel: upstream 'strongly' suggest to use 2.6.3 with 4.7.3. I've rebuild presice soprano on oneiric (no change required). In the first hours I noticed less .xsession-errors msg but did do many checks yet [17:33] s/2.6.3/2.7.3/ [17:34] I figured to put it in under a separate bug at the same time. [17:34] Due to the upstream recommendation. [17:34] sounds good [17:49] I don't have any objections to 4.7.3 being in proposed either, on the proviso that those key bugs with it are swatted before it goes out to people :) [18:46] Quintasan_, Riddell, pyside is part of the qt-project now [18:58] as 4.7.4 will be the last 4.7 how about pkg 4.7.4 as soon as possible and backports this to oneiric instead? === keffie_jayx is now known as effie_jayx === effie_jayx is now known as keffie_jayx [21:30] Because I have time this week and not at some arbitrary time in the future. === Zechariah is now known as zkriesse