| Azelphur | wtf, I'm booting 11.10 from USB on my laptop, I heard the login screen sound so I assume it made it reasonably far | 01:34 |
|---|---|---|
| Azelphur | but my screen is just cycling through colors, blue, white, black, red, green, and blue again | 01:34 |
| Azelphur | the whole screen, cycling through those colors. | 01:34 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 07:18 |
| czajkowski | popey: ping | 07:44 |
| popey | o/ | 07:44 |
| czajkowski | morning sent to pm not NSFW link | 07:45 |
| Jutnux | Morning | 07:58 |
| AlanBell | morning all | 08:14 |
| DJones | Morning | 08:26 |
| exobuzz | popey, https://ship.parcelforce.net/welcome - stupid web developers or stupid management ? | 08:59 |
| exobuzz | they used to forbid you from using the site at all. i suppose this is an improvement from being totally crap to just crap | 08:59 |
| popey | hah | 09:01 |
| Myrtti | morning | 09:01 |
| exobuzz | this should be on th efacebook thread. im getting my social networks all confused | 09:01 |
| DJones | Oops http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16027006 | 09:04 |
| Myrtti | ooo, snow has stayed on the ground overnight | 09:07 |
| hoover | morning all | 09:08 |
| hoover | any git users / experts around? | 09:08 |
| hoover | I'm wondering how to clone a git repo from this url: | 09:09 |
| hoover | http://git.larsmichelsen.com/git/?p=nagios_downtime.git;a=summary | 09:09 |
| hoover | git clone tells me that there's no repo on that address 8( | 09:09 |
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| Myrtti | nja | 09:18 |
| Myrtti | used http://git.larsmichelsen.com/git/nagios_downtime.git and got fatal: not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server? | 09:18 |
| hoover | yep | 09:20 |
| hoover | I've also tried git: as a protocol, connection refused | 09:21 |
| MooDoo | hello all | 09:24 |
| hoover | morning | 09:24 |
| Myrtti | wheeeee | 09:46 |
| Myrtti | audible_bell \o/ | 09:46 |
| popey | thats a good thing is it? | 09:46 |
| AlanBell | how did you do it Myrtti? | 09:48 |
| Myrtti | well, if I've got irssi hilights, it seems that audible_bell passes through to screen and from screen to terminal and from terminal to Compiz and from Compiz to Unity, which makes the terminator icon wiggle in the unity bar | 09:48 |
| Myrtti | could set the sound effect volume in PulseAudio to 0 if I disliked it, but as of now it's an excellent thing | 09:49 |
| Myrtti | AlanBell: first I noticed that I didn't have it enabled in zsh, and I probably still don't | 09:49 |
| Myrtti | second I checked if screen was set ok and it wasn't, but I have no way of telling if that was the case before yesterday when I had connection problems and had to kill screen and irssi | 09:50 |
| Myrtti | then I tried xset b 100 and pactl upload-sample and well, seems to work now | 09:51 |
| popey | ♥ get_iplayer | 09:57 |
| Myrtti | yeah it's magnificent :-> | 09:57 |
| popey | ooh yay, i told get_iplayer to grab 'how to build', seems they're repeating series 1 somewhere, it's picked up one of those episodes as well as the 3 eps from series 2 | 09:57 |
| Myrtti | I've put the RSS feeds into liferea and liferea is rigged to start get_iplayer in a terminal when the title of the feeditem is clicked | 09:59 |
| Myrtti | I'm usually interested in science, nature and history so it serves me well | 09:59 |
| popey | i might go back to liferea | 09:59 |
| Myrtti | it integrates nicely with memenu | 10:00 |
| gord | i don't pay the licence fee so my version of get iplayer is go to amazon and buy the bluray :( | 10:00 |
| bigcalm | gord: that's very well behaved of you | 10:00 |
| popey | gord: you dont need to pay license fee to use get_iplayer | 10:01 |
| Myrtti | I can only assume D pays it | 10:01 |
| popey | you only need to pay license fee to watch live or near-live telly | 10:01 |
| bigcalm | popey: but is it morally wrong? | 10:01 |
| popey | not if the law says so | 10:01 |
| gord | eh i'd feel bad | 10:01 |
| popey | no different than watching non-live iplayer on bbc.co.uk | 10:01 |
| daubers | Morning | 10:01 |
| gord | to be honest, i only want the nature documentaries and i want them on bluray | 10:02 |
| popey | lo | 10:02 |
| gord | frozen planet comes out on the 8th! | 10:02 |
| popey | heh | 10:02 |
| Myrtti | popey: only difference is that you don't need to suffer the browser adding an extra layer of possible troubles | 10:02 |
| bigcalm | alias get_iplayer_web_interface="cd ~/Music/iPlayer;perl get_iplayer.cgi --port=1935 --getiplayer=/usr/bin/get_iplayer --listen=127.0.0.1" | 10:02 |
| popey | hmm, liferea comes with a podcast subscription which doesnt exist | 10:02 |
| bigcalm | I <3 the web interface | 10:03 |
| bigcalm | Reminds me of the mythtv interface quite a bit | 10:03 |
| Myrtti | I wonder how slippery it's out there now the snow is there | 10:04 |
| Myrtti | should walk to the other side of the suburb to run some errands | 10:04 |
| dogmatic69 | no snow in the west midlands | 10:04 |
| gord | get the feeling we won't get snow this year, still not actually that cold | 10:04 |
| dogmatic69 | gord: where abouts are you? | 10:04 |
| bigcalm | It's anybody's guess | 10:04 |
| * Myrtti goes to take a picture | 10:04 | |
| gord | dogmatic69, crewe | 10:05 |
| dogmatic69 | looked like snow close to you on the news last night | 10:06 |
| Myrtti | http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/6458816607/ | 10:07 |
| bigcalm | Yay Tampere | 10:07 |
| gord | fyi, snow that falls but does not stick, is not snow | 10:08 |
| gord | do not trust it | 10:08 |
| Myrtti | gord: well it's been there over 12 hours now | 10:08 |
| gord | Myrtti, yeah not disputing your snow, your snow is very valid ;) | 10:09 |
| knightwise | hey everyone :) | 10:09 |
| Myrtti | thohoho | 10:09 |
| Myrtti | my snow ♥ | 10:10 |
| * popey files bug 900214 :D | 10:13 | |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 900214 in liferea (Ubuntu) "Example feed should include Ubuntu Podcast" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/900214 | 10:13 |
| Myrtti | popey: an Ubuntu podcast or the Ubuntu podcast? | 10:14 |
| popey | how many are there? ☺ | 10:14 |
| Myrtti | I thought there was full circle and some others | 10:15 |
| Myrtti | I don't know, it's just that that bug name isn't unambiguous :-P | 10:15 |
| popey | changed | 10:15 |
| popey | bug 900214 | 10:15 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 900214 in liferea (Ubuntu) "Example feed should include Ubuntu Podcast(s)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/900214 | 10:15 |
| popey | :D | 10:15 |
| nigelb | popey: hah | 10:16 |
| popey | will add similar for gpodder ☺ | 10:16 |
| Myrtti | I wish there was a proper gpodder.net podcast client for Android | 10:16 |
| Myrtti | I'd love to get rid of Listen | 10:17 |
| Laney | morning | 10:17 |
| Laney | i keep getting flats on me bike :( | 10:18 |
| Myrtti | right, cup of tea consumed, time to get going | 10:19 |
| gord | replace bike wheels with concrete wheels, problem solved | 10:20 |
| Myrtti | haaaa cuecat to the rescue | 10:22 |
| knightwise | hmmm | 10:23 |
| knightwise | as a podcatcher Gpodder is quite ok on ubuntu | 10:23 |
| knightwise | but i keep getting "user locale input settings" errors when i try to run Gpodder from the command line interface | 10:23 |
| Myrtti | UK banks should develop something like what Finnish banks have - barcodes on the bottom of the paper bills. Makes paying individual bills easier. Of course nowadays would be easier if it were a qr code | 10:25 |
| Myrtti | I got some USB cuecats from USA just for two purposes, random paper bills and librarything | 10:27 |
| hoover | I'm also looking for a good android podcast client | 10:39 |
| DJones | Myrtti: About QR code, the rugby team I watch has just brought out their new shirt for teh 2012 season, its supposed to have a QR code in the design to take you direct to the clubs website | 10:39 |
| hoover | I just dumped podkicker after it turned my sd into read only for the umpteenth time | 10:39 |
| hoover | I'm now back to downloading them manually on the htc's sd card and listening to them in the std music player | 10:40 |
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| knightwise | hoover: doggcatcher ? | 10:41 |
| popey | hoover: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_podcatchers#Android | 10:41 |
| knightwise | hoover: i download them using gpodder and have an rsync script that kicks them over to my droid | 10:41 |
| danfish | morning | 10:46 |
| danfish | b'ah :( I'm officially banning Mondays. From now on it's a 6 day week. | 10:47 |
| hoover | thanks for the link | 10:47 |
| hoover | knightwise: yep, I was thinking of doing the same | 10:47 |
| MooDoo | danfish: you wish :D | 10:52 |
| danfish | MooDoo: I did wish - closed my eyes and clicked my heels together and everything | 10:57 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 10:57 |
| MooDoo | danfish: obviously you were not wearing red jeweled magic slippers | 11:00 |
| bigcalm | I'm on holiday this week - so why am I working? | 11:01 |
| bigcalm | I don't understand me | 11:01 |
| MooDoo | bigcalm: crazy fool :) go do something else | 11:02 |
| bigcalm | Might go and have a hair cut | 11:03 |
| Guest63416 | do chrimbo shopping | 11:08 |
| Guest63416 | !ping | 11:09 |
| lubotu3 | another contentless ping... sigh... | 11:09 |
| Jutnux | Coach trip:( | 11:10 |
| oimon | !ping | 11:11 |
| lubotu3 | another contentless ping... sigh... | 11:11 |
| oimon | phew | 11:11 |
| bigcalm | Will be doing xmas shopping on Saturday after the uu meal | 11:15 |
| * AlanBell updates the booking | 11:19 | |
| bigcalm | Change in numbers? | 11:20 |
| AlanBell | yeah, I booked 9 originally and we have 8 | 11:20 |
| bigcalm | Aha | 11:20 |
| bigcalm | How do the numbers compare to what you had expected? | 11:21 |
| AlanBell | less interest from canonical than I had expected, otherwise about what I thought | 11:23 |
| bigcalm | Ah | 11:23 |
| AlanBell | it isn't a cheap night | 11:23 |
| bigcalm | Indeed not | 11:23 |
| Laney | how much is it? | 11:23 |
| bigcalm | I've got another xmas meal to attend with Hayley on the Thursday evening | 11:23 |
| directhex | one | 11:23 |
| bigcalm | 41 per head | 11:23 |
| directhex | hundred | 11:23 |
| directhex | beeeeelion | 11:23 |
| directhex | dollars! | 11:23 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 11:23 |
| bigcalm | This is going to be a bit of an expensive week for me | 11:24 |
| hoover | hey biggie | 11:25 |
| hoover | I just ordered a Kindle Fire for my wife | 11:25 |
| bigcalm | Hi hoovie | 11:26 |
| * Laney could be tempted to attend | 11:26 | |
| Laney | depending on trains ... | 11:26 |
| Laney | is it too late? | 11:26 |
| AlanBell | Laney: arrgh! | 11:26 |
| Laney | did you just change it? | 11:26 |
| Laney | if so don't worry | 11:27 |
| AlanBell | well I can probably unchange it | 11:27 |
| AlanBell | only sent the email 10 minutes ago | 11:27 |
| Laney | no no don't put yourself out | 11:27 |
| bigcalm | Laney: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1409/detail/ | 11:27 |
| AlanBell | not putting myself out, if you can make it then awesome, I will update them | 11:27 |
| Laney | ta | 11:27 |
| AlanBell | but it does cost me personally £35 for no-shows! | 11:27 |
| Laney | hmm, last train back 2315 | 11:28 |
| bigcalm | There are 2 sittings per evening and the 2nd one starts at 9pm. So I assume that we'll be ushered out by 8.30pm. So the rest of the evening is free for a pub or something I guess | 11:30 |
| AlanBell | yes | 11:30 |
| bigcalm | I just started 2 sentences with 'so'. Somebody is going to be annoyed. | 11:30 |
| AlanBell | so it won't be me | 11:30 |
| bigcalm | ;) | 11:30 |
| bigcalm | I recall popey apologising about starting with so. But I can't remember whom it was to | 11:31 |
| popey | myself | 11:33 |
| popey | hmm, going to be tight to get me and wifey there for 18:30 | 11:33 |
| popey | didnt realise they did two sittings | 11:33 |
| bigcalm | Well, that's confusing | 11:33 |
| Laney | mmm, first advance | 11:34 |
| Laney | AlanBell: aye go on then, put me down | 11:42 |
| * Laney buys train tickets | 11:43 | |
| bigcalm | Laney: join the event :) | 11:43 |
| AlanBell | yay | 11:43 |
| Laney | will do | 11:43 |
| Laney | travelling first class on the way there | 11:43 |
| Daviey | I'll be on a plane :( | 11:43 |
| * Laney dons cool shades | 11:43 | |
| bigcalm | Laney: two Iains in one place. Lets be confused :) | 11:43 |
| Laney | i'll be iron you be eeyane | 11:44 |
| Daviey | Don't wanna make it the following week? :) | 11:44 |
| Laney | going somewhere nice? | 11:44 |
| bigcalm | My ex-gf went from me (Iain) to an Ian | 11:44 |
| AlanBell | Laney: booking updated :) | 11:44 |
| bigcalm | My fiancée went from an Ian to me (Iain) | 11:44 |
| Laney | ty | 11:45 |
| dutchie | my current gf has gone from a josh to a josh | 11:45 |
| MartijnVdS | dutchie: by accident? | 11:45 |
| Laney | argh | 11:45 |
| * AlanBell wonders what the argh is | 11:45 | |
| Laney | silly loco website | 11:45 |
| bigcalm | Highlight frenzy! | 11:45 |
| AlanBell | oh, just that | 11:45 |
| Laney | I was lookign for register in the grey menu | 11:45 |
| Laney | but it's a link over to the right | 11:45 |
| AlanBell | yes | 11:45 |
| Laney | there we go | 11:46 |
| dutchie | MartijnVdS: an accident she hasn't noticed for ~8 months if so | 11:46 |
| * dutchie back to wondering why big shiny computer won't turn on after being moved from university to home | 11:47 | |
| MartijnVdS | dutchie: imagine her face when she notices! :) | 11:47 |
| * Laney eyes east midlands trains | 11:47 | |
| Laney | rock & roll & booked | 11:49 |
| MartijnVdS | rick & roll | 11:49 |
| bigcalm | o.O | 11:49 |
| MartijnVdS | ಠ_ಠ <-- like that, bigcalm ? | 11:50 |
| bigcalm | MartijnVdS: aye, that'll do nicely :) | 11:51 |
| bigcalm | Synergy doesn't like transmitting special chars | 11:51 |
| bigcalm | Goodness me, there's a dubstep mix of Barbra Steisand: http://open.spotify.com/track/1OaBSDFIXcDn2YPD82uMHX | 11:53 |
| MartijnVdS | :'(\ | 11:53 |
| bigcalm | Barbra Streisand | 11:53 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu_zwdmz0hE ? | 11:54 |
| bigcalm | Yep | 11:55 |
| bigcalm | Never seen the music vid though | 11:55 |
| bigcalm | This is fun | 11:55 |
| dutchie | :( can't work out what is wrong with my computer | 12:15 |
| MooDoo | dutchie: have you tried turning it off and on again? | 12:19 |
| * MooDoo ducks and runs | 12:20 | |
| dutchie | MooDoo: yes, but it won't even turn on :( | 12:20 |
| gord | dutchie, is it that you are using it? | 12:21 |
| bigcalm | User error. Replace user and press any key to continue | 12:21 |
| bigcalm | Did somebody really make a keyboard with an 'any' key on it? | 12:21 |
| gord | i think i saw a photochop of that once, but really you could just put a sticker with the word "any" on tilde or something | 12:22 |
| bigcalm | Aye | 12:22 |
| oimon | wow, office 2010 is hideous | 12:53 |
| MooDoo | oimon: the ribbon isn't too nice, but it's useable | 12:54 |
| oimon | it's very hard to use | 12:55 |
| oimon | there's an indented paragraph that it impossible to unindent, and you can't see at a glance stuff like fonts used, and size | 12:55 |
| oimon | i have to use it to edit a document and i['ve screwed it all up | 12:55 |
| dogmatic69 | is it possible to measure a clients bandwidth from a server somehow, with out action from them | 12:59 |
| dogmatic69 | while browsing a site maybe | 12:59 |
| jpds | dogmatic69: ipref. | 13:07 |
| dogmatic69 | http://www.ipref.com/ :/ | 13:07 |
| jpds | $ apt-cache show iperf | 13:09 |
| Myrtti | !info htop | 13:34 |
| lubotu3 | htop (source: htop): interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-2 (natty), package size 57 kB, installed size 204 kB | 13:34 |
| * oimon realises he's bought clementines instead of satsumas :( | 14:11 | |
| Laney | good choice | 14:13 |
| siriusly | clementine is a good choice for a music player too ;) | 14:18 |
| oimon | that's the only universe in which clementine is better...the universe of music players | 14:18 |
| johnbristol | Is anyone familiar with a Samsung Printer Unified Driver / Ubuntu 64bit permissions compatibility issue? Googling shows others stuck on getting the CUPS driver to work, and the file manager generating infinite copies of itself, but I can't see a solution posted. | 14:38 |
| popey | johnbristol: is there a bug filed? | 14:38 |
| directhex | popey, closed-source crufft | 14:38 |
| popey | johnbristol: the guy who looks after printing in Ubuntu is very attentive to printing bugs | 14:38 |
| oimon | S.P.U.D. lol | 14:38 |
| popey | ahhh | 14:39 |
| popey | bummer | 14:39 |
| johnbristol | it installed fine on Slackware, I'm trying to get the printer working for my brother | 14:39 |
| oimon | which printer johnbristol? | 14:40 |
| johnbristol | ML-1865 | 14:40 |
| oimon | i have some samsungs that i used existing ubuntu drivers instead of installnig that gubbins and they were completely compatible | 14:40 |
| johnbristol | thank you oimon, I'll look inside CUPS for an alternative, that's a helpful idea | 14:41 |
| oimon | e.g. The samsung ML2010 printers seem to work fine using the Samsung ML-1510 Foomatic/gdi driver. | 14:42 |
| oimon | Also tested ML-2010 and ML-2240 successfully using the Samsung ML-4500 driver | 14:43 |
| directhex | http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Samsung/Samsung-ML-1865W says only the samsung driver is known to work | 14:44 |
| johnbristol | that's a helpful page directhex. SPUD's faultless on my linux box, I'm just stuck on getting it to function under Ubuntu. But I'll try oimon's suggestion and see if I can get another driver to bite. I suspect it's to do in part with a root permission. | 14:47 |
| hoover | cheers all | 14:48 |
| directhex | johnbristol, you personally shouldn't need special permissions to print - it's the cups daemon which runs the printer, so the cups user takes care of all that | 14:50 |
| johnbristol | directhex, it was Nautilus spawning hundreds of jobs during the install which gave me that impression. I could easily be wrong. | 14:51 |
| directhex | unified installers are always wrong, and written by people who are barely technically literate. sadly | 14:52 |
| johnbristol | directhex, the unified installer was faultless for me on Slackware. I may just get him to buy an Ubuntu-recognized printer instead. | 14:54 |
| directhex | johnbristol, the developer of the installer will have made completely wrong assumptions about linux, and those will fail hard on the "wrong" distro. e.g. using bashisms and declaring #!/bin/sh is a common one | 14:55 |
| directhex | since sh is always bash, it's no problem using bashisms, right? | 14:55 |
| AlanBell | /bin/sh -> dash | 14:59 |
| Azelphur | woooo, got my laptop back | 15:33 |
| Azelphur | sent it in for repair back in August, took so long \o/ | 15:33 |
| * oimon keeps getting cut on the cutting edge PPAs :( | 15:34 | |
| AlanBell | popey: how did you get on with learning vi? | 15:35 |
| AlanBell | Azelphur: cool! at least it is back now. | 15:36 |
| Azelphur | indeed :P | 15:36 |
| s-fox | Hello. | 15:37 |
| BigRedS | directhex: That's currently rivalling absence of <ifmod> for my #1 annoyance :) | 15:37 |
| Azelphur | AlanBell: looks like my HDD size magically doubled too. | 15:39 |
| Azelphur | can't complain xD | 15:39 |
| oimon | chromium os lime released: http://blog.hexxeh.net/ | 15:44 |
| oimon | in case you forgot chrome/ium OS existed :) | 15:44 |
| johnbristol | directhex, there's a working solution at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341621 - I've added this for the archive in case anyone hits this discussion in future. | 16:06 |
| Jutnux | Coach trip home,argh. | 17:03 |
| Myrtti | !info audacity | 17:25 |
| lubotu3 | audacity (source: audacity): fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.13-3ubuntu1 (natty), package size 2421 kB, installed size 6364 kB | 17:25 |
| Myrtti | meh | 17:25 |
| AlanBell | jpds ^^^^^^ | 17:25 |
| Myrtti | Miia - avocados: 1 - 1 | 17:25 |
| gordonjcp | audacity is horrible | 17:26 |
| gordonjcp | I can't believe that's the best we have for editing samples | 17:26 |
| Myrtti | bought two to make quac, one was underripe and the other ended up being so stubborn with the seed I cut myself :-( | 17:26 |
| Myrtti | gordonjcp: I agree on both accounts | 17:27 |
| jpds | AlanBell: Not my bot. | 17:27 |
| AlanBell | oh, who runs that one then? | 17:27 |
| AlanBell | gordonjcp: what does a good sample editor do? | 17:28 |
| DJones | Isn't that bot tsimpsons | 17:29 |
| Myrtti | if I could get all the features of Audacity in the UX of Jokosher with a bit more helpful experience, I'd be happy | 17:30 |
| Myrtti | I want openshot of audio | 17:30 |
| Myrtti | I like openshot. | 17:30 |
| jpds | AlanBell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots#lubotu3 | 17:30 |
| ali1234 | why can't you just use openshot? | 17:30 |
| ali1234 | audacity really is horrible | 17:31 |
| AlanBell | I like openshot too, but it seems like audacity to me, there are tracks and you drag stuff on the tracks and chop them up and change levels and such | 17:31 |
| ali1234 | well yeah | 17:31 |
| ali1234 | but audacity is slow, annoying, and crashes all the time | 17:31 |
| directhex | audacity is prime-time stuff. ION turntables ship with audacity for windows as their only software | 17:31 |
| ali1234 | but all A/V editors work like that | 17:31 |
| AlanBell | I use it to remove noise, clip things to length and sometimes fade in and out | 17:32 |
| gordonjcp | AlanBell: not look horrible, not crash all the time, not take ten minutes to import or export a sample | 18:27 |
| GirlyGirl | Hi | 18:30 |
| BigRedS | Hello | 18:38 |
| jutnux | Does anyhone know when the Ubuntu mugs will be in stock? | 18:43 |
| czajkowski | hmmm | 19:25 |
| czajkowski | no davmor2 | 19:25 |
| daubers | Eveing | 19:29 |
| AlanBell | o/ daubers | 19:33 |
| daubers | This evening I am mostly hacking on the hackspace website | 19:33 |
| daubers | django ftw \o/ | 19:33 |
| MartijnVdS | you h4x0r you | 19:51 |
| Myrtti | I'm mostly cursing at Audacity | 19:59 |
| jutnux | Audacity :-( | 20:15 |
| jacobw | which hackspace daubers ? | 20:41 |
| daubers | jacobw: Reading | 20:41 |
| daubers | WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 20:48 |
| daubers | HM Inland Revenue owe me monies!!! | 20:48 |
| jutnux | Lucky you :-) | 20:49 |
| daubers | Christmas has come early this year | 20:50 |
| hux | the drinks are on daubers :) | 20:52 |
| daubers | \o\ | 20:53 |
| daubers | /o/ | 20:53 |
| daubers | \o/ | 20:53 |
| gord | reason i stopped paying my licence fee #315 http://balletnews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/1066075-low_res-strictly-come-dancing-2-700x515.jpg | 20:53 |
| daubers | ARGHHHHHHHHH | 20:53 |
| hux | lol omg how much did they give U to make U tghat excited lol | 20:54 |
| hux | does that ARGH mean they want it back now | 20:54 |
| Myrtti | daubers: I got 470€ returned on Friday, but I knew about it in June already :-) goes to student loan repayments | 20:54 |
| jutnux | Hhahahhahaha | 20:54 |
| daubers | Myrtti: Mine was a bit more than that in £ | 20:55 |
| Myrtti | daubers: yeah well I calculate every year how much tax I should pay and I do calculate it a bit too big just to be safe, but not too much - it's interest free loan for the government after all | 20:56 |
| daubers | Interestingly this was for 2006... | 20:57 |
| daubers | Myrtti: This'll pay for my bike retest and a bit of money towards a holiday in Aus in a couple of years :) | 20:57 |
| jutnux | Go too fast daubers? | 20:59 |
| daubers | jutnux: No, wobbled a bit from nerves :( enough to cross a lane boundary | 21:00 |
| jutnux | Ah right :-( What bike do you have | 21:01 |
| jutnux | ? | 21:01 |
| daubers | not got one at the moment | 21:02 |
| monsterwizard | I'm reading about the branch and bounce algorithm the one with the estimiated function. Have I read this correctly?...To work out the estimated function time how mny more steps there are by 50 | 21:22 |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: ping | 21:32 |
| AlanBell | o/ | 21:33 |
| bigcalm | Hazar! | 21:33 |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: have you conveyed my allergy information? | 21:34 |
| AlanBell | I have, but I have to do so again on a form | 21:34 |
| bigcalm | Cheers :) | 21:34 |
| AlanBell | we have to do a menu choice form that I got sent today | 21:34 |
| bigcalm | I trusted that you had, but Hayley insisted that I ask again | 21:34 |
| bigcalm | I see | 21:35 |
| bigcalm | I thought it was going to be a surprise | 21:35 |
| AlanBell | it is, to an extent | 21:35 |
| zleap | this raspberry pi is looking good http://www.raspberrypi.org/ | 21:35 |
| AlanBell | bigcalm: http://www.danslenoir.com/london/images/site/menu/menu.jpg | 21:36 |
| AlanBell | white, blue, green or red | 21:36 |
| bigcalm | Is it a choice per person or per booking? | 21:37 |
| AlanBell | and starter&main, main&pud, or starter&main&pud | 21:37 |
| AlanBell | per person | 21:37 |
| bigcalm | Cool | 21:37 |
| * AlanBell goes to email the 9 peeps | 21:37 | |
| bigcalm | :) | 21:38 |
| bigcalm | I love causing people work :P | 21:38 |
| popey | AlanBell: do you have wifeys email address? | 21:39 |
| popey | guess it | 21:39 |
| bigcalm | wifey@p... ? | 21:39 |
| AlanBell | therealpopey@popey.com :) | 21:39 |
| popey | clare | 21:39 |
| AlanBell | yeah, I knew that ;) | 21:39 |
| awilkins | Now, I'm really really annoyed | 21:50 |
| awilkins | My *!"^&$^!" computer has decided that it likes to boot Ubuntu after all | 21:51 |
| awilkins | Why now, no idea. You'd think being left off overnight would be enough if it was time-dependent | 21:51 |
| Azelphur | HDD failure could explain it, try running a SMART test | 21:52 |
| awilkins | Azelphur, SMART running all the time... it doesn't explain it, alas, it refused to boot off LiveUSBs as well - it would boot the loader, but wouldn't load the main kernel | 21:57 |
| Azelphur | weird | 21:58 |
| awilkins | But it would boot Windows fine... it runs memtest fine | 21:58 |
| awilkins | It ran mprime for a solid hour with zero errors | 21:58 |
| awilkins | But then it has a massive sulk, segfaults, hardlocks, blackscreen reset crashes | 21:58 |
| awilkins | I'm wondering if I should get a UPS | 21:58 |
| awilkins | I thought it might be the GPU.. was thinking of swapping in the old one | 21:59 |
| awilkins | It runs Skyrim with no more crashes than average for a Bethesda game.. and no hardlocks or black resets in Windows | 22:02 |
| awilkins | Bah | 22:02 |
| ali1234 | sounds like hardware problems | 22:10 |
| ali1234 | i need a new router. any suggestions? | 22:13 |
| smittix | moodoo! | 22:15 |
| Myrtti | ali1234: sadly I have to say "no Belkin" | 22:16 |
| ali1234 | ok | 22:16 |
| ali1234 | well i'm looking at netgear or linksys | 22:17 |
| ali1234 | is it worth paying the extra to get a gigabit switch? | 22:17 |
| awilkins | Depends whether you transfer very large files a lot | 22:33 |
| Azelphur | So I finally got my inspiron duo tablet pc back, Trying to resolve the kernel panic when you plug/remove the power. It's a known issue that happens to all inspiron duo users. Anyone have any suggestions? | 22:33 |
| ali1234 | post the backtrace | 22:34 |
| Azelphur | how do I post a kernel panic backtrace? there's not too much of a way to copy it | 22:35 |
| Azelphur | I could take a photo, but it flies off the top of the screen | 22:35 |
| * Azelphur prods ali1234 | 22:37 | |
| shauno | Azelphur: serial port! | 22:37 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 22:37 |
| Azelphur | it doesn't have one | 22:38 |
| ali1234 | change the console font to the really tiny one | 22:38 |
| ali1234 | then take a photo | 22:38 |
| Azelphur | how do I do that? :D | 22:38 |
| ali1234 | recompile kernel | 22:38 |
| Azelphur | \o/ | 22:38 |
| shauno | is there not something you can poke in /proc to get dumps these days? | 22:38 |
| ali1234 | probably not after a kernel panic | 22:38 |
| shauno | not after, but if it's repeatable, he can do it before-hand? | 22:39 |
| Azelphur | it's totally repeatable, just unplug and watch the magic \o/ | 22:39 |
| shauno | and no need to recompile for a tiny console font, vga=ask on the boot prompt and pick the least sane option you can find | 22:39 |
| shauno | yeah, I have a usb soundcard that does the same thing on osx :/ | 22:39 |
| ali1234 | try pci=noacpi | 22:39 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: tried that, no luck | 22:40 |
| Azelphur | doing vga=ask | 22:40 |
| Azelphur | shauno: Legacy `ask` parameter no longer supported. | 22:41 |
| shauno | pants | 22:41 |
| Azelphur | indeed :( | 22:41 |
| shauno | with linux, I'm starting to suspect I'm a legacy user | 22:45 |
| shauno | .. "not supported" | 22:45 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: is that much of it useful to you? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/December%202011/IMG_20111205_224319.jpg | 22:46 |
| ali1234 | yes | 22:46 |
| Azelphur | fun | 22:46 |
| ali1234 | shift+pageup? | 22:47 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: nope | 22:47 |
| ali1234 | try disabling smp | 22:47 |
| Azelphur | how? | 22:47 |
| ali1234 | some kernel parameter | 22:48 |
| Azelphur | k I'll go look that up \o/ | 22:48 |
| shauno | nosmp or maxcpus=0, unless that's legacy too | 22:48 |
| shauno | (yes, zero, as wrong as that sounds) | 22:49 |
| ali1234 | man bootparam | 22:50 |
| ali1234 | those should both still work | 22:50 |
| Azelphur | trying it now, not really a perm solution though | 22:51 |
| ali1234 | try to report this bug | 22:51 |
| ali1234 | also try using a recent mainline kernel | 22:51 |
| Azelphur | it has been reported | 22:51 |
| ali1234 | where? | 22:51 |
| Azelphur | I was looking for a ppa or something for that earlier but couldn't find one | 22:51 |
| ali1234 | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ | 22:52 |
| Azelphur | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pm-utils/+bug/881043 | 22:52 |
| ali1234 | try old ones too, it might be a regression | 22:52 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 881043 in pm-utils (Ubuntu) "Dell inspiron duo crahses when plugging or unplugging the power adapter" [Undecided,Invalid] | 22:52 |
| Azelphur | yea, that bug report says it's a regression | 22:52 |
| ali1234 | ok so you need to do a git bisect and find the regression | 22:53 |
| ali1234 | the first thing to do is find the newest kernel that works and the oldest kernel that doesn't work from the kernel ppa | 22:53 |
| ali1234 | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.39-oneiric/ | 22:54 |
| ali1234 | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.0-oneiric/ | 22:54 |
| ali1234 | try those :) | 22:54 |
| Azelphur | righto | 22:54 |
| ali1234 | don't try the point releases if possible, it will just make the bisect harder | 22:55 |
| ali1234 | you know how to install those right? | 22:55 |
| Azelphur | not really | 22:55 |
| ali1234 | is it 64 or 32? | 22:55 |
| Azelphur | still panics with nosmp | 22:55 |
| Azelphur | 64 | 22:55 |
| ali1234 | do you need any dkms stuff? | 22:56 |
| Azelphur | don't think so, no | 22:56 |
| ali1234 | hmm | 22:56 |
| ali1234 | well, get the headers anyway | 22:56 |
| ali1234 | you grab the two deb files that end with amd64 and the one that ands with all | 22:56 |
| ali1234 | dwownload them all to a folder like 2.6.39/ | 22:57 |
| Azelphur | ah, pretty easy | 22:57 |
| ali1234 | cd into folder and sudo dpkg -i * | 22:57 |
| Azelphur | :) | 22:57 |
| ali1234 | then on boot hold left shift and select it from the menu | 22:57 |
| ali1234 | while you are doing that, you might want to set up a kernel build on your main PC because building kernels takes ages as you probrably know | 22:58 |
| ali1234 | you will want to git clone linus' tree | 22:58 |
| Azelphur | ok | 22:59 |
| ali1234 | you can point it to an existing kernel tree if you have one, and it will not download it all again | 22:59 |
| Azelphur | never done this before so I doubt I have :) | 22:59 |
| ali1234 | here is a guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild | 23:00 |
| ali1234 | you will want to run that on main PC and then copy of the deb files | 23:01 |
| Azelphur | yay guides | 23:01 |
| Azelphur | righto | 23:01 |
| Azelphur | I'm just downloading the 2.6 and 3.0 debs to try | 23:01 |
| ali1234 | ok | 23:01 |
| ali1234 | the idea is to find the working and not working debs | 23:02 |
| ali1234 | then you use git to find the point between those two versions where it stops working | 23:02 |
| Azelphur | fun | 23:03 |
| AlanBell | doing a kernel recompile at every step! | 23:05 |
| AlanBell | that sounds like a process that would take weeks to do | 23:06 |
| Azelphur | AlanBell: not on a 4ghz i7 | 23:06 |
| AlanBell | ok | 23:07 |
| ali1234 | AlanBell: it's a bisection. as in "cut in half" | 23:12 |
| ali1234 | so you start in the middle and take the midpoint at each step | 23:12 |
| AlanBell | binary search | 23:13 |
| ali1234 | right | 23:13 |
| AlanBell | how long does a kernel build take Azelphur | 23:14 |
| AlanBell | oh, you are not there yet | 23:14 |
| ali1234 | half an hour or so | 23:14 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: I installed those packages but no sign of the new kernels in the grub menus | 23:17 |
| ali1234 | maybe you need to run update-grub | 23:18 |
| * Azelphur tries | 23:18 | |
| shauno | kernel builds feel like they never change. it took 30-35 minutes on my 386 | 23:18 |
| shauno | er, 30-45. but regardless | 23:18 |
| ali1234 | there's a lot more modules these days | 23:18 |
| ali1234 | if you disable them all, it takes 5 minutes | 23:19 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: nope update-grub doesn't solve it either | 23:32 |
| ali1234 | maybe you have to install the debs individually then | 23:32 |
| Azelphur | perhaps :) | 23:33 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: nope, they seem to install but there's no mention of them in the grub menu | 23:38 |
| ali1234 | hmm | 23:39 |
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