[01:34] wtf, I'm booting 11.10 from USB on my laptop, I heard the login screen sound so I assume it made it reasonably far [01:34] but my screen is just cycling through colors, blue, white, black, red, green, and blue again [01:34] the whole screen, cycling through those colors. [07:18] aloha [07:44] popey: ping [07:44] o/ [07:45] morning sent to pm not NSFW link [07:58] Morning [08:14] morning all [08:26] Morning [08:59] popey, https://ship.parcelforce.net/welcome - stupid web developers or stupid management ? [08:59] they used to forbid you from using the site at all. i suppose this is an improvement from being totally crap to just crap [09:01] hah [09:01] morning [09:01] this should be on th efacebook thread. im getting my social networks all confused [09:04] Oops http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16027006 [09:07] ooo, snow has stayed on the ground overnight [09:08] morning all [09:08] any git users / experts around? [09:09] I'm wondering how to clone a git repo from this url: [09:09] http://git.larsmichelsen.com/git/?p=nagios_downtime.git;a=summary [09:09] git clone tells me that there's no repo on that address 8( === Guest37602 is now known as jpds [09:18] nja [09:18] used http://git.larsmichelsen.com/git/nagios_downtime.git and got fatal: not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server? [09:20] yep [09:21] I've also tried git: as a protocol, connection refused [09:24] hello all [09:24] morning [09:46] wheeeee [09:46] audible_bell \o/ [09:46] thats a good thing is it? [09:48] how did you do it Myrtti? [09:48] well, if I've got irssi hilights, it seems that audible_bell passes through to screen and from screen to terminal and from terminal to Compiz and from Compiz to Unity, which makes the terminator icon wiggle in the unity bar [09:49] could set the sound effect volume in PulseAudio to 0 if I disliked it, but as of now it's an excellent thing [09:49] AlanBell: first I noticed that I didn't have it enabled in zsh, and I probably still don't [09:50] second I checked if screen was set ok and it wasn't, but I have no way of telling if that was the case before yesterday when I had connection problems and had to kill screen and irssi [09:51] then I tried xset b 100 and pactl upload-sample and well, seems to work now [09:57] ♥ get_iplayer [09:57] yeah it's magnificent :-> [09:57] ooh yay, i told get_iplayer to grab 'how to build', seems they're repeating series 1 somewhere, it's picked up one of those episodes as well as the 3 eps from series 2 [09:59] I've put the RSS feeds into liferea and liferea is rigged to start get_iplayer in a terminal when the title of the feeditem is clicked [09:59] I'm usually interested in science, nature and history so it serves me well [09:59] i might go back to liferea [10:00] it integrates nicely with memenu [10:00] i don't pay the licence fee so my version of get iplayer is go to amazon and buy the bluray :( [10:00] gord: that's very well behaved of you [10:01] gord: you dont need to pay license fee to use get_iplayer [10:01] I can only assume D pays it [10:01] you only need to pay license fee to watch live or near-live telly [10:01] popey: but is it morally wrong? [10:01] not if the law says so [10:01] eh i'd feel bad [10:01] no different than watching non-live iplayer on bbc.co.uk [10:01] Morning [10:02] to be honest, i only want the nature documentaries and i want them on bluray [10:02] lo [10:02] frozen planet comes out on the 8th! [10:02] heh [10:02] popey: only difference is that you don't need to suffer the browser adding an extra layer of possible troubles [10:02] alias get_iplayer_web_interface="cd ~/Music/iPlayer;perl get_iplayer.cgi --port=1935 --getiplayer=/usr/bin/get_iplayer --listen=127.0.0.1" [10:02] hmm, liferea comes with a podcast subscription which doesnt exist [10:03] I <3 the web interface [10:03] Reminds me of the mythtv interface quite a bit [10:04] I wonder how slippery it's out there now the snow is there [10:04] should walk to the other side of the suburb to run some errands [10:04] no snow in the west midlands [10:04] get the feeling we won't get snow this year, still not actually that cold [10:04] gord: where abouts are you? [10:04] It's anybody's guess [10:04] * Myrtti goes to take a picture [10:05] dogmatic69, crewe [10:06] looked like snow close to you on the news last night [10:07] http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/6458816607/ [10:07] Yay Tampere [10:08] fyi, snow that falls but does not stick, is not snow [10:08] do not trust it [10:08] gord: well it's been there over 12 hours now [10:09] Myrtti, yeah not disputing your snow, your snow is very valid ;) [10:09] hey everyone :) [10:09] thohoho [10:10] my snow ♥ [10:13] * popey files bug 900214 :D [10:13] Launchpad bug 900214 in liferea (Ubuntu) "Example feed should include Ubuntu Podcast" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/900214 [10:14] popey: an Ubuntu podcast or the Ubuntu podcast? [10:14] how many are there? ☺ [10:15] I thought there was full circle and some others [10:15] I don't know, it's just that that bug name isn't unambiguous :-P [10:15] changed [10:15] bug 900214 [10:15] Launchpad bug 900214 in liferea (Ubuntu) "Example feed should include Ubuntu Podcast(s)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/900214 [10:15] :D [10:16] popey: hah [10:16] will add similar for gpodder ☺ [10:16] I wish there was a proper gpodder.net podcast client for Android [10:17] I'd love to get rid of Listen [10:17] morning [10:18] i keep getting flats on me bike :( [10:19] right, cup of tea consumed, time to get going [10:20] replace bike wheels with concrete wheels, problem solved [10:22] haaaa cuecat to the rescue [10:23] hmmm [10:23] as a podcatcher Gpodder is quite ok on ubuntu [10:23] but i keep getting "user locale input settings" errors when i try to run Gpodder from the command line interface [10:25] UK banks should develop something like what Finnish banks have - barcodes on the bottom of the paper bills. Makes paying individual bills easier. Of course nowadays would be easier if it were a qr code [10:27] I got some USB cuecats from USA just for two purposes, random paper bills and librarything [10:39] I'm also looking for a good android podcast client [10:39] Myrtti: About QR code, the rugby team I watch has just brought out their new shirt for teh 2012 season, its supposed to have a QR code in the design to take you direct to the clubs website [10:39] I just dumped podkicker after it turned my sd into read only for the umpteenth time [10:40] I'm now back to downloading them manually on the htc's sd card and listening to them in the std music player === Guest24086 is now known as Joeb454 [10:41] hoover: doggcatcher ? [10:41] hoover: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_podcatchers#Android [10:41] hoover: i download them using gpodder and have an rsync script that kicks them over to my droid [10:46] morning [10:47] b'ah :( I'm officially banning Mondays. From now on it's a 6 day week. [10:47] thanks for the link [10:47] knightwise: yep, I was thinking of doing the same [10:52] danfish: you wish :D [10:57] MooDoo: I did wish - closed my eyes and clicked my heels together and everything [10:57] good morning everyone. [11:00] danfish: obviously you were not wearing red jeweled magic slippers [11:01] I'm on holiday this week - so why am I working? [11:01] I don't understand me [11:02] bigcalm: crazy fool :) go do something else [11:03] Might go and have a hair cut [11:08] do chrimbo shopping [11:09] !ping [11:09] another contentless ping... sigh... [11:10] Coach trip:( [11:11] !ping [11:11] another contentless ping... sigh... [11:11] phew [11:15] Will be doing xmas shopping on Saturday after the uu meal [11:19] * AlanBell updates the booking [11:20] Change in numbers? [11:20] yeah, I booked 9 originally and we have 8 [11:20] Aha [11:21] How do the numbers compare to what you had expected? [11:23] less interest from canonical than I had expected, otherwise about what I thought [11:23] Ah [11:23] it isn't a cheap night [11:23] Indeed not [11:23] how much is it? [11:23] I've got another xmas meal to attend with Hayley on the Thursday evening [11:23] one [11:23] 41 per head [11:23] hundred [11:23] beeeeelion [11:23] dollars! [11:23] Heh [11:24] This is going to be a bit of an expensive week for me [11:25] hey biggie [11:25] I just ordered a Kindle Fire for my wife [11:26] Hi hoovie [11:26] * Laney could be tempted to attend [11:26] depending on trains ... [11:26] is it too late? [11:26] Laney: arrgh! [11:26] did you just change it? [11:27] if so don't worry [11:27] well I can probably unchange it [11:27] only sent the email 10 minutes ago [11:27] no no don't put yourself out [11:27] Laney: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1409/detail/ [11:27] not putting myself out, if you can make it then awesome, I will update them [11:27] ta [11:27] but it does cost me personally £35 for no-shows! [11:28] hmm, last train back 2315 [11:30] There are 2 sittings per evening and the 2nd one starts at 9pm. So I assume that we'll be ushered out by 8.30pm. So the rest of the evening is free for a pub or something I guess [11:30] yes [11:30] I just started 2 sentences with 'so'. Somebody is going to be annoyed. [11:30] so it won't be me [11:30] ;) [11:31] I recall popey apologising about starting with so. But I can't remember whom it was to [11:33] myself [11:33] hmm, going to be tight to get me and wifey there for 18:30 [11:33] didnt realise they did two sittings [11:33] Well, that's confusing [11:34] mmm, first advance [11:42] AlanBell: aye go on then, put me down [11:43] * Laney buys train tickets [11:43] Laney: join the event :) [11:43] yay [11:43] will do [11:43] travelling first class on the way there [11:43] I'll be on a plane :( [11:43] * Laney dons cool shades [11:43] Laney: two Iains in one place. Lets be confused :) [11:44] i'll be iron you be eeyane [11:44] Don't wanna make it the following week? :) [11:44] going somewhere nice? [11:44] My ex-gf went from me (Iain) to an Ian [11:44] Laney: booking updated :) [11:44] My fiancée went from an Ian to me (Iain) [11:45] ty [11:45] my current gf has gone from a josh to a josh [11:45] dutchie: by accident? [11:45] argh [11:45] * AlanBell wonders what the argh is [11:45] silly loco website [11:45] Highlight frenzy! [11:45] oh, just that [11:45] I was lookign for register in the grey menu [11:45] but it's a link over to the right [11:45] yes [11:46] there we go [11:46] MartijnVdS: an accident she hasn't noticed for ~8 months if so [11:47] * dutchie back to wondering why big shiny computer won't turn on after being moved from university to home [11:47] dutchie: imagine her face when she notices! :) [11:47] * Laney eyes east midlands trains [11:49] rock & roll & booked [11:49] rick & roll [11:49] o.O [11:50] ಠ_ಠ <-- like that, bigcalm ? [11:51] MartijnVdS: aye, that'll do nicely :) [11:51] Synergy doesn't like transmitting special chars [11:53] Goodness me, there's a dubstep mix of Barbra Steisand: http://open.spotify.com/track/1OaBSDFIXcDn2YPD82uMHX [11:53] :'(\ [11:53] Barbra Streisand [11:54] bigcalm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu_zwdmz0hE ? [11:55] Yep [11:55] Never seen the music vid though [11:55] This is fun [12:15] :( can't work out what is wrong with my computer [12:19] dutchie: have you tried turning it off and on again? [12:20] * MooDoo ducks and runs [12:20] MooDoo: yes, but it won't even turn on :( [12:21] dutchie, is it that you are using it? [12:21] User error. Replace user and press any key to continue [12:21] Did somebody really make a keyboard with an 'any' key on it? [12:22] i think i saw a photochop of that once, but really you could just put a sticker with the word "any" on tilde or something [12:22] Aye [12:53] wow, office 2010 is hideous [12:54] oimon: the ribbon isn't too nice, but it's useable [12:55] it's very hard to use [12:55] there's an indented paragraph that it impossible to unindent, and you can't see at a glance stuff like fonts used, and size [12:55] i have to use it to edit a document and i['ve screwed it all up [12:59] is it possible to measure a clients bandwidth from a server somehow, with out action from them [12:59] while browsing a site maybe [13:07] dogmatic69: ipref. [13:07] http://www.ipref.com/ :/ [13:09] $ apt-cache show iperf [13:34] !info htop [13:34] htop (source: htop): interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-2 (natty), package size 57 kB, installed size 204 kB [14:11] * oimon realises he's bought clementines instead of satsumas :( [14:13] good choice [14:18] clementine is a good choice for a music player too ;) [14:18] that's the only universe in which clementine is better...the universe of music players [14:38] Is anyone familiar with a Samsung Printer Unified Driver / Ubuntu 64bit permissions compatibility issue? Googling shows others stuck on getting the CUPS driver to work, and the file manager generating infinite copies of itself, but I can't see a solution posted. [14:38] johnbristol: is there a bug filed? [14:38] popey, closed-source crufft [14:38] johnbristol: the guy who looks after printing in Ubuntu is very attentive to printing bugs [14:38] S.P.U.D. lol [14:39] ahhh [14:39] bummer [14:39] it installed fine on Slackware, I'm trying to get the printer working for my brother [14:40] which printer johnbristol? [14:40] ML-1865 [14:40] i have some samsungs that i used existing ubuntu drivers instead of installnig that gubbins and they were completely compatible [14:41] thank you oimon, I'll look inside CUPS for an alternative, that's a helpful idea [14:42] e.g. The samsung ML2010 printers seem to work fine using the Samsung ML-1510 Foomatic/gdi driver. [14:43] Also tested ML-2010 and ML-2240 successfully using the Samsung ML-4500 driver [14:44] http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Samsung/Samsung-ML-1865W says only the samsung driver is known to work [14:47] that's a helpful page directhex. SPUD's faultless on my linux box, I'm just stuck on getting it to function under Ubuntu. But I'll try oimon's suggestion and see if I can get another driver to bite. I suspect it's to do in part with a root permission. [14:48] cheers all [14:50] johnbristol, you personally shouldn't need special permissions to print - it's the cups daemon which runs the printer, so the cups user takes care of all that [14:51] directhex, it was Nautilus spawning hundreds of jobs during the install which gave me that impression. I could easily be wrong. [14:52] unified installers are always wrong, and written by people who are barely technically literate. sadly [14:54] directhex, the unified installer was faultless for me on Slackware. I may just get him to buy an Ubuntu-recognized printer instead. [14:55] johnbristol, the developer of the installer will have made completely wrong assumptions about linux, and those will fail hard on the "wrong" distro. e.g. using bashisms and declaring #!/bin/sh is a common one [14:55] since sh is always bash, it's no problem using bashisms, right? [14:59] /bin/sh -> dash [15:33] woooo, got my laptop back [15:33] sent it in for repair back in August, took so long \o/ [15:34] * oimon keeps getting cut on the cutting edge PPAs :( [15:35] popey: how did you get on with learning vi? [15:36] Azelphur: cool! at least it is back now. [15:36] indeed :P [15:37] Hello. [15:37] directhex: That's currently rivalling absence of for my #1 annoyance :) [15:39] AlanBell: looks like my HDD size magically doubled too. [15:39] can't complain xD [15:44] chromium os lime released: http://blog.hexxeh.net/ [15:44] in case you forgot chrome/ium OS existed :) [16:06] directhex, there's a working solution at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341621 - I've added this for the archive in case anyone hits this discussion in future. [17:03] Coach trip home,argh. [17:25] !info audacity [17:25] audacity (source: audacity): fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.13-3ubuntu1 (natty), package size 2421 kB, installed size 6364 kB [17:25] meh [17:25] jpds ^^^^^^ [17:25] Miia - avocados: 1 - 1 [17:26] audacity is horrible [17:26] I can't believe that's the best we have for editing samples [17:26] bought two to make quac, one was underripe and the other ended up being so stubborn with the seed I cut myself :-( [17:27] gordonjcp: I agree on both accounts [17:27] AlanBell: Not my bot. [17:27] oh, who runs that one then? [17:28] gordonjcp: what does a good sample editor do? [17:29] Isn't that bot tsimpsons [17:30] if I could get all the features of Audacity in the UX of Jokosher with a bit more helpful experience, I'd be happy [17:30] I want openshot of audio [17:30] I like openshot. [17:30] AlanBell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots#lubotu3 [17:30] why can't you just use openshot? [17:31] audacity really is horrible [17:31] I like openshot too, but it seems like audacity to me, there are tracks and you drag stuff on the tracks and chop them up and change levels and such [17:31] well yeah [17:31] but audacity is slow, annoying, and crashes all the time [17:31] audacity is prime-time stuff. ION turntables ship with audacity for windows as their only software [17:31] but all A/V editors work like that [17:32] I use it to remove noise, clip things to length and sometimes fade in and out [18:27] AlanBell: not look horrible, not crash all the time, not take ten minutes to import or export a sample [18:30] Hi [18:38] Hello [18:43] Does anyhone know when the Ubuntu mugs will be in stock? [19:25] hmmm [19:25] no davmor2 [19:29] Eveing [19:33] o/ daubers [19:33] This evening I am mostly hacking on the hackspace website [19:33] django ftw \o/ [19:51] you h4x0r you [19:59] I'm mostly cursing at Audacity [20:15] Audacity :-( [20:41] which hackspace daubers ? [20:41] jacobw: Reading [20:48] WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [20:48] HM Inland Revenue owe me monies!!! [20:49] Lucky you :-) [20:50] Christmas has come early this year [20:52] the drinks are on daubers :) [20:53] \o\ [20:53] /o/ [20:53] \o/ [20:53] reason i stopped paying my licence fee #315 http://balletnews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/1066075-low_res-strictly-come-dancing-2-700x515.jpg [20:53] ARGHHHHHHHHH [20:54] lol omg how much did they give U to make U tghat excited lol [20:54] does that ARGH mean they want it back now [20:54] daubers: I got 470€ returned on Friday, but I knew about it in June already :-) goes to student loan repayments [20:54] Hhahahhahaha [20:55] Myrtti: Mine was a bit more than that in £ [20:56] daubers: yeah well I calculate every year how much tax I should pay and I do calculate it a bit too big just to be safe, but not too much - it's interest free loan for the government after all [20:57] Interestingly this was for 2006... [20:57] Myrtti: This'll pay for my bike retest and a bit of money towards a holiday in Aus in a couple of years :) [20:59] Go too fast daubers? [21:00] jutnux: No, wobbled a bit from nerves :( enough to cross a lane boundary [21:01] Ah right :-( What bike do you have [21:01] ? [21:02] not got one at the moment [21:22] I'm reading about the branch and bounce algorithm the one with the estimiated function. Have I read this correctly?...To work out the estimated function time how mny more steps there are by 50 [21:32] AlanBell: ping [21:33] o/ [21:33] Hazar! [21:34] AlanBell: have you conveyed my allergy information? [21:34] I have, but I have to do so again on a form [21:34] Cheers :) [21:34] we have to do a menu choice form that I got sent today [21:34] I trusted that you had, but Hayley insisted that I ask again [21:35] I see [21:35] I thought it was going to be a surprise [21:35] it is, to an extent [21:35] this raspberry pi is looking good http://www.raspberrypi.org/ [21:36] bigcalm: http://www.danslenoir.com/london/images/site/menu/menu.jpg [21:36] white, blue, green or red [21:37] Is it a choice per person or per booking? [21:37] and starter&main, main&pud, or starter&main&pud [21:37] per person [21:37] Cool [21:37] * AlanBell goes to email the 9 peeps [21:38] :) [21:38] I love causing people work :P [21:39] AlanBell: do you have wifeys email address? [21:39] guess it [21:39] wifey@p... ? [21:39] therealpopey@popey.com :) [21:39] clare [21:39] yeah, I knew that ;) [21:50] Now, I'm really really annoyed [21:51] My *!"^&$^!" computer has decided that it likes to boot Ubuntu after all [21:51] Why now, no idea. You'd think being left off overnight would be enough if it was time-dependent [21:52] HDD failure could explain it, try running a SMART test [21:57] Azelphur, SMART running all the time... it doesn't explain it, alas, it refused to boot off LiveUSBs as well - it would boot the loader, but wouldn't load the main kernel [21:58] weird [21:58] But it would boot Windows fine... it runs memtest fine [21:58] It ran mprime for a solid hour with zero errors [21:58] But then it has a massive sulk, segfaults, hardlocks, blackscreen reset crashes [21:58] I'm wondering if I should get a UPS [21:59] I thought it might be the GPU.. was thinking of swapping in the old one [22:02] It runs Skyrim with no more crashes than average for a Bethesda game.. and no hardlocks or black resets in Windows [22:02] Bah [22:10] sounds like hardware problems [22:13] i need a new router. any suggestions? [22:15] moodoo! [22:16] ali1234: sadly I have to say "no Belkin" [22:16] ok [22:17] well i'm looking at netgear or linksys [22:17] is it worth paying the extra to get a gigabit switch? [22:33] Depends whether you transfer very large files a lot [22:33] So I finally got my inspiron duo tablet pc back, Trying to resolve the kernel panic when you plug/remove the power. It's a known issue that happens to all inspiron duo users. Anyone have any suggestions? [22:34] post the backtrace [22:35] how do I post a kernel panic backtrace? there's not too much of a way to copy it [22:35] I could take a photo, but it flies off the top of the screen [22:37] * Azelphur prods ali1234 [22:37] Azelphur: serial port! [22:37] yeah [22:38] it doesn't have one [22:38] change the console font to the really tiny one [22:38] then take a photo [22:38] how do I do that? :D [22:38] recompile kernel [22:38] \o/ [22:38] is there not something you can poke in /proc to get dumps these days? [22:38] probably not after a kernel panic [22:39] not after, but if it's repeatable, he can do it before-hand? [22:39]