[00:00] My thought though was that if it were truly a kernel issue then I could boot to a livecd with an older kernel and the fan should stop running so much [00:00] However, that did not pan out [00:00] StormStrikes, you could get the pangolin alphas too [00:00] So I tried the alpha release of ubuntu 12.04 and the fan still runs... [00:00] oh [00:00] though Im not sure if it makes a difference using a livecd or doing a full install [00:00] i would try a live CD, or just a mainline kernel or something before upgrading like that [00:02] Im not entirely new to Linux, but Im not as experienced as some...and I certainly dont mess with the kernel usually....how would I try out the mainline kernel? [00:02] the reason i do that is because its just a .deb.. its easy to undo/revert [00:02] I certainly do not want to use Ubuntu and its Unity...Ive had my fill of that and is why I use Xubuntu... [00:03] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.2-rc4-oneiric/ for example [00:03] I preferred Xubuntu to Ubuntu even before the Unity thing, but having seen that I'm glad I use Xubuntu. [00:04] Yeah, I am exceptionally happy with Xubuntu and will stick with it.. [00:04] :D [00:04] did i miss someone suggesting *not* using xubuntu? [00:04] So I can just download that kernel and install it? As simple as that? [00:05] StormStrikes: you can download the .debs there, and install [00:05] i usualy unhide grub [00:05] No holstein, I was just commenting I dont want to go back to unity...sorry for the confusion on that [00:05] you can select the other kernel you are using now, and boot in to remove that one [00:06] i miss nautilus... but im trying not to install it [00:08] StormStrikes: i also like GridCube 's idea of just trying a daily LIVE iso for PP [00:09] Does Xubuntu have a daily live iso? I didnt see one but could have missed it [00:11] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/ [00:11] that might be text alternate installer though... [00:11] no.. i think its live [00:11] StormStrikes, http://91.189.93.73/qatracker/milestones/204/builds/7460/downloads [00:13] Yeah, I downloaded the live 12.04, but when I installed it to a usb stick, it booted as ubuntu... [00:14] Im downloading it again though...now that the CD drive is working again I will burn it to that at boot from there... [00:14] StormStrikes: its the same kernel either way... so for your tests, it doesnt matter [00:15] Okay, cool. [00:16] I dont really need the Nvidia graphics, but if I can get the fan to stop constantly running I will be a really happy camper... [00:25] hi ppl [00:25] :) [00:25] ne 1 here [00:26] ? [00:26] i need help [00:26] !ask Willie-Tingha [00:27] !ask | Willie-Tingha [00:27] Willie-Tingha: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [00:28] I am using a wireless modem - I get 1 or 2 dropouts a day - how can I set the system to restart automatically - Xubuntu and Kubuntu instead of using the taskbar icon [00:29] sorry ubottu - it is my first time here - be compassionate!! [00:29] :) [00:29] Willie-Tingha, :) ubottu is an irc bot [00:29] lol [00:29] Willie-Tingha, what do you mean by restart? [00:29] bots should be compassionate then!! [00:30] when I get the dropout I have to click on the taskbar icon and click the wireless icon to restart the connection - i would like this to be automatic [00:31] he didnt went HAL9000 on you yet :P [00:31] oh [00:31] it should be automatic [00:31] mine is [00:31] i thought it should be - but mine just hangs until i restart the connection manually [00:32] did you know that Arthur C Clark chose the initials HAL because they are the letters before IBM?? [00:32] hmmm [00:33] Willie-Tingha: Clarke denies that, though he probably does so with a wink. [00:33] he was too clever not to do that [00:33] Willie-Tingha: I think Clarke was embarrassed by that a little. [00:34] I will go off and check everything again and see if I can fix the problem - thanks for the chat - maybe I shall return again [00:34] bye [02:16] i deleted the task manager from the xfce panel and was wondering how to keep the notification area, date, and workspace switcher positioned all the way to the right [02:39] Hello [02:39] In ubuntu the fn volume keys works, but not in xubuntu, how i can debug/fix this issue? [02:40] I confess i never had and issue like this in the past, so please be patience with me.. i dont know where start to look for touchpad hw, if pci? if usb?.. [02:51] krispaul: there are probably some packages that main ubunt uuses that xubntu is not using [02:54] for example.. [02:55] Type xev in terminal and see if is returning something. [02:55] It may be the default behavior... [02:55] If is returning something, see this and change the behavior of the keys. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard [02:56] it is, okay let see [02:57] Bro, I`m gettong out, is 5 in the morning in my country. :) [02:57] Hope that you have some luck with that. [02:59] btw why apple, my laptop is samsung.. [02:59] ? [03:00] ah ok, i do must change behavior, just an example :) [03:00] Yes. :) [03:03] Good luck. === CiPi is now known as cipi [04:44] any ideas why thunar would have no icons when opened w/ gksudo ? there's no error message (in the console at least) [04:53] Hello, can anyone tell if there is any graphical to edit xfce aplication menu? [04:54] 'graphical tool [04:54] there is, it's called alacarte but ... it has an absolutely obscene number of dependencies [04:56] i had the bright idea once to use it to edit my menu and then remove it, it was rather ugly :P [04:58] err.. ok thank you, needed to edit the menu but i thought i would a simple tool! [04:59] if it has that many dependencies, i think i can live with the menu just the way it is! [05:03] sudo apt-get install alacarte --no-install-recommends command to run in terminal [05:04] But, what version of Xubuntu? [05:06] 11.10 [05:08] Great, go for it [05:09] ok ty for the help! [05:15] thanks, i'll remember that for next time :D [05:41] hi. need your help guys very much [05:41] can´t find Russian keyboard layout in xubuntu [05:45] anybody? [05:46] there are some layouts missing in comparison with gnome [05:57] hi [05:57] in the systray mixer volume control, I like to change [05:58] the gmusicbrowser app to parole, how to? [06:49] TVasEyes: I think it should be there just by it being used.. you may need to relogin, or it just doesn't work [06:49] (it's indicator btw) [06:49] Sysi, thanks for the reply, everything works fine, [06:50] I simply want to replace the default gmusicbrowser with parole, [06:50] cannot find any config files. [06:50] it might be possible with pavucontrol [06:51] Sysi, pavucontrol? [06:51] !info pavucontrol [06:51] pavucontrol (source: pavucontrol): PulseAudio Volume Control. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.1-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 136 kB, installed size 1024 kB [06:52] ah, thanks, Iĺl look into this. [07:47] hello. quick question: is there a way to install MintMenu on XUbuntu 11.10? [07:48] googling gave no answers - I hope you can help me. or just tell me to stop seqarching if that is impossible to do [07:52] hello? sorry for being annoying, but... em.. is anybody here? [09:33] how can i disable xscreensaver? [09:36] in the settings [09:36] i think display [09:36] submenu [09:38] screensaver settings [10:19] xubuntu 12.04 install err!! [10:34] hey all, how the heck can I swap my escape and caps lock keys [10:34] i could do it under gnome but am lost here [10:41] dpyro: I would look at xmodmap [10:42] tried it [10:42] bugs out [10:42] googled it [10:42] other people had trouble with the caps lock key [10:42] i'm looking for a gui solution, hopefully [10:43] I just turned my caps lock into a compose key with an xkb option [10:43] * dpyro vims [10:43] with dpkg-reconfigure console [10:43] hell i even have them swapped on my windows desktop [10:44] just use ctrl+[ [10:44] two keys? blasphemy! [10:45] I think that messing with xmodmap and caps lock is a little more complicated, because it has a state [10:45] but it's doable [10:49] the only problem with xmodmap is that it doesn't detect my keyboard properly [10:49] i've tried all the PC/US* layouts and none of them are right, just less wrong [11:10] um, I'm pretty sure keyboard detection is not involved [11:10] you just remap them [13:38] hi [13:38] funny: i was listening to music on laptop speakers for a while, now when i plug in headphones, volume goes unmute with absolutely no way, not in my knowledge, to unmute it. I have tried killing pulseaudio. [13:40] Something happend that broken my sound. If I try to play an mp3 file in gmusicbrowser it says that I am missing gstreamer plugin. [13:40] using xubuntu 11.10 [13:48] how do I start gstreamer server?? [13:56] ineedhelp: you need dome gstreamer plugin, search for them in synaptic or software center [13:57] or you can install xubuntu-restricted-extras and get all nice badly licensed blobs [13:58] Sysi: I don't even have sound on youtube, if I try to up or down volume it does nothing in tray (speaker is always on "full" volume) [13:59] maybe remove something in my home directory? any configuration? [13:59] sound was working without xubuntu-restriced-extras [13:59] try pulseaudio -k [14:02] so after pulseaudio -k I don't get error that I am missing plugin [14:02] but still no sound [14:02] speaker still shows full volume in tray [14:02] relogin/reboot [14:02] okay. brb [14:08] nope, didn't help. gstreamer error have got back [14:08] still no sound [14:10] http://pastebin.com/gepCn09c gmusicbrowser error [14:15] okay, installing gstreamer0.10-lame seems to solved gstreamer error [14:15] but still no sound [14:21] ineedhelp.. is that hte only one without sound? [14:21] does it work when ur speakers are on [14:21] and [14:21] when u go to alsamixer, is the speaker down to zero? [14:21] i have a big problem with xubuntu where windows that gain focus automatically jump to the existing workspace. rather than staying where they are [14:22] this gets real annoying. anyone know how to fix? [14:26] click on the workspace icon on the upper right hand corner [14:26] i think [14:26] u can change it [14:26] and then choose one workspace [14:26] can't remembe very well but on that portion where it shows u... near hte time [14:27] all i see are workspace settings for adding more workspaces [14:27] now how to disable windows from jumping to different workspaces on their own [14:27] not* [14:33] eh [14:33] isn't there an option [14:33] wehre u can pick a number.. one workspace [14:33] u don't disable it as such [14:34] ok [14:34] did u go to settings [14:34] and workspaces? [14:34] go to settings, workspaces. number of workspaces switch to one (if htat's what u want to happen) [14:36] am I able to dd a xubuntu 11.10 iso to a flash drive in another distro to get a working installer flash drive? [14:41] nope, you ened to use unetbootin [14:41] unetbootin sucks on suse [14:42] carloss: see window manager settings [14:42] Sysi: i looked in there [14:42] there's tap for that, second tab IIRC === benl_ is now known as blutgens [14:43] there's a focus tab that i edited earlier that didn't seem to do the trick [14:43] "auto give focus to newly created windows" [14:44] it's still doing the same thing. unless i need to log out and log in for it to apply [14:44] it's not that option [14:44] hrmm [14:44] which one, then? [14:45] it's in focus-tab [14:47] i'm there [14:47] what option? [14:48] I'm not on xfce ATM, I just remember it's obvious [14:48] hrmm [14:48] okay [14:50] ? [14:50] a [14:50] Sysi: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7156802/Selection_001.png [14:50] maybe that helps [14:50] hey [14:51] me [14:51] * unco aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [14:52] the workspace setting didnt' work eh? [14:52] nope [14:52] O.O [14:52] carloss: that is not "window manager tweaks" [14:52] that sux, sorry [14:52] ahhh, Sysi [14:53] Sysi: "Activate focus stealing prevention" [14:53] Sysi: never mind [14:53] i found it [14:53] xubuntu is now perfect [14:53] it's not that [14:53] "When a window raises itself..." [14:53] Do Nothing [14:54] for example [14:55] works! [14:55] thanks, Sysi [16:04] hi guys, i have a problem with ccc and 2 displays [16:04] it doesnt work at all [16:05] when i try to change the settings ccc closes and the change isnt applyd [16:06] any advices? catalyst is 11.11 [16:08] what is ccc? [16:08] amdccc [16:09] wasnt it catalys command center? :D [16:09] no sorry its catalyst control center :D [16:10] I have no idea what that is, I'm pretty sure it's not a part of xubuntu [16:10] its the amd software tool to configure graphics [16:11] I guess you need to report a bug to amd %) [16:11] come on no help at all? :P [16:11] try running it from terminal and see if it prints anything [16:11] got new laptop and opensource drivers arent working very well [16:11] trying the closed source [16:12] closed source is hard to help with [16:12] you can't just check what's wrong with it easily [16:12] damn [16:12] i know [16:13] you have to hope that it shows some useful message somewhere that suggests what might be wrong [16:13] or that you find a workaround described on some forums [16:15] yeah searching right now [16:19] ok reboot time [16:19] thx [17:21] hey guys [17:21] since when does root need a mount point to be in fstab to be able to mount it? [17:22] to mount a fs on it [17:22] I get "cant find /foo/bar in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" error thou I ran mount with sudo [17:22] It doesn't, but it does need a directory/folder to mount to. fstab generally provides the folder [17:23] well, isnt root supposed to be able to mount anything anywhere, regardless of fstab entries [17:23] /etc/mtab is the list of all mount points, so if it did not mount, it will be missing there. [17:24] yes, if there is an existing folder to use as the mount point [17:24] the folder exists [17:24] I mount about 10 folders here that are not in /etc/fstab. [17:25] it's a crptoloop [17:25] it seems it gives me that error because I typed a wrong password [17:25] this is misleading [17:38] ok im back [17:39] so now i know the problem... aticonfig and xrandr is it [17:39] how can i disable xrandr? [17:54] Hi, I just got a new XPS L702X laptop with a geforce 550M...it does seem to work and I tried installing the newest nvidia drivers (no joy either)...anyone have an experiences with this? [17:54] I mean it "doesn't seem to work" === cipi is now known as CiPi === CiPi is now known as cipi === cipi is now known as CiPi [18:44] anybody a idea how to fix this problem? -> "--dtop and --desktop-setup, are not supported when RandR 1.2 is enabled!" [20:39] i installed xbuntu 11.10 on old desktop, and when it starts it get stuck at 'checking battery', is there a way for it not to check the battery? [20:41] I have to startup in recovery mode in grub then choose normal boot then it boot up [20:42] I think it gets stuck a little bit later, the battery message is just the last message it displayed [20:42] you can try using some boot parameters [20:42] true, this can also be [20:42] !boot [20:42] Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto [20:42] see the boot options link in there [20:43] ok, thanks, i will have a look [20:45] theuns: you want the 'common kernel options' section [20:47] ok, thanks [20:47] But which one? is the big question [20:53] Anyone know how I can swap Esc and Caps Lock? [21:00] -dpyro, from memory, via definitions in ~/.Xresources or ~/.Xdefaults. [21:08] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11496810 <-- any help¿ [21:11] teknoduke: any addons? [21:11] or plugins? [21:12] try disabling all plugins and them re-enabling them one at a time [21:12] baizon ad block, echofon [21:12] try what Sysi wrote [21:13] when ff works again [21:13] try to remove the addons [21:13] oks [21:14] or reset your settings [21:14] if that doesnt help [21:16] nice i found the problematic addon was Cuevana player [21:16] thanks baizon [21:17] nice [21:17] np teknoduke [21:20] dpyro, actually xmodmap. http://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/unix3/upt/ch06_01.htm [21:22] is there a way to disable xrandr so i can use aticonfig? [21:25] and i make the heigth of the drop down xubuntu menu entries to be larger like in gnome ? [21:25] anyone available to help answer a technical question? [21:25] not that big but bigger. i have to strain my eyes [21:25] atruno: you can use larger icons [21:26] jeffs13: depends on the question, you just have to ask [21:26] jeffs13: just ask [21:27] I am setting up a bit of a home server, and was attempting to use xubuntu to do so, and this is my first attempt at using ubuntu or xubuntu with multiple internal hard drives [21:27] and I'm having a problem with it constantly shifting device names, and can't make heads or tails of some of the udev / related info out there [21:27] i.e. sda becomes sdc becomes sdb depending on each boot... [21:28] jeffs13: use uuids [21:29] uuids in udev rules, or is there an easier/better way to do this [21:30] jeffs13: you can just use uuids in fstab directly [21:30] actually ubuntu does that by default [21:30] uuids are cool if you don't ever partition your drives [21:31] you can also use /dev/disk/by-uuid/ or by-label [21:31] the problem is that nothing at all is happening to any drive except the boot one by default, they dont even appear in fstab [21:32] they won't appear in fstab by themselves [21:32] jeffs13, what does gparted says? [21:32] you have to add them yourself, like this: UUID=a39ff4bb-f257-4008-8b2b-a1e027782590 /home ext4 defaults 0 0 [21:35] ok, I'll try adding [21:35] gparted or other managers do show them, and I can mount manually there [21:36] you can get its /dev/sd[NUMBER] there and use it on fstab too [21:38] ok [21:38] I'll try that, thanks a bunch [21:43] TVasEyes: i tried xmodmap [21:43] it bugs out with "keysym Caps_Lock" [21:43] i tired xkeycap [21:43] can't detect the right keyboard in the first place [21:45] dpyro, is your keyboard usb or ps/2, do you use xorg.conf or is keyboard detected? [21:47] vmware w/ win7 host (usb logitech keyboard), xubuntu 11.10 guest [21:49] it's detected fine in xfce itself [21:49] and the keyboard settings manager module gets along with it too [21:50] dpyro, whats your problem? [21:50] GridCube: I'm trying to swap caps lock and escape [21:51] :o [21:52] no idea [21:54] dpyro, http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/01/31/changing-the-system-keyboard-mapping-on-ubuntu-dvorak-vs-qwerty/ [21:55] GridCube: but that's between layouts [21:55] i want to swap two specific keys [21:57] dpyro, http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_make_a_keymap [21:58] the only reason i've ever heard anyone swaping escape is for vim [21:58] well yes that's why [21:58] also GridCube that doesn't help either [21:59] http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_map_keys_in_vim [21:59] i don't want to map it in vim [21:59] i want to map it system-wide [21:59] mmhm [21:59] okay [22:02] dpyro, http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/Blog/custom-keyboard-in-linuxx11 [22:03] looks like that may work [22:03] i was hoping for something along the lines of ~/.Xmodmap [22:03] :D \o/ [22:04] but everything I copy-pasta gets syntax errored [22:05] dpyro, http://www.in-ulm.de/~mascheck/X11/xmodmap.html [22:05] :/ [22:05] sorry I don't know [22:05] :D I'm just a librarian [22:05] thanks for the help though, you got me going in the right direction :) [22:06] :D success then!