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NikratioI accidentally uploaded a *wrong* .orig.tar.bz2 file to my PPA, and the server refuses attempts to upload a new, correct file. Is there anything I can do (short of faking a newer upstream version)?02:49
maxbNo, suffixing the upstream version is the right thing to do02:50
NikratioI already requested deletion of the corrupt version, I'm not sure if it's still not working because the deletion is still pending or because even deletion doesn't help02:50
Nikratiooh my. thx.02:55
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mrevellHallo09:01
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hrwhi10:22
jelmerhi hrw10:22
hrware there any plans to add weekly recipe builds?10:23
hrwnow it can be daily or 'on request'10:23
jelmerhrw: not that I'm aware of - what's the issue with daily builds?10:23
hrwwhen changes are less common then daily then it is waste of cpu time10:23
jelmerhrw: it only rebuilds daily if there actually were changes10:24
hrwo..10:24
hrwso there was no question ;)10:24
jelmer:)10:24
jelmerhrw: I take it your recipes are finally working then?10:24
hrwjelmer: yes, they do10:25
jelmergreat10:25
hrwneed to fix packaging a bit so armel/armhf/powerpc will not be run10:25
hrwm4 is a language which I will have to learn one day10:33
jelmerhrw: I'm sorry to hear that.10:37
hrw;))10:39
hrwjelmer: gcc has debian/control.m4 which I hack for over year and would like to understand why my change is ok10:40
hrwjelmer: but change need to happen in any of branches used in recipe - right?10:52
jelmerhrw: yeah, doesn't matter which one10:53
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hrwcool11:02
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carandraughi! Is it possible to change the owner of a team? If so, how?12:06
allenapcarandraug: Yes, it is, though it's a bit hidden. First, you need to be a team admin (or maybe even the current owner...),12:12
allenapthen go to the team page and click "Change details" on the right,12:12
allenapscroll to the bottom of the change details page and click "Change owner".12:12
hrwbtw - did powerpc builders went off?12:18
hrwI see that my https://code.launchpad.net/~linaro-pkg/+recipe/gcc-linaro-native-daily builds are no longer powerpc12:19
hrwnot that I need them - just noticed. And I had entry on todo list to disable powerpc builds12:19
wgranthrw: Your PPA is no longer marked as de-virtualized.12:25
wgrantIt's using the fake virt armel builders instead.12:25
hrwok12:26
hrwbtw - what is 'fake virt armel builder'?12:26
wgrantIf you look at https://launchpad.net/builders, you'll see some PPA armel builders.12:27
wgrantThey're not virtualized like the i386/amd64 builders, because ARM virt still sort of sucks.12:27
wgrantBut they pretend to be virtualized, so certain PPAs (like yours) are allowed to build on them.12:27
hrwarm virt does not exist more or less even12:28
wgrantWell, all we have is QEMU, which is roughly the definition of "sucks".12:28
hrwok, so instead of using arm hardware some builders are now qemu-arm instances?12:29
wgrantNo.12:29
wgrantThere are real ARM machines pretending to be virtualized, so certain PPAs can build on them.12:29
wgrantThere are no similar ppc machines.12:29
wgrantWhich is why your PPA no longer builds on ppc.12:30
hrwok12:30
carandraugallenap, I'm an admin, but I don't see that button. All I see is Change branding, home page, preferred languages and set contact address12:31
wgrantcarandraug: Only the owner can change the owner.12:33
allenapcarandraug: I think the current owner will need to do it. Can you contact him/her?12:33
carandraugallenap, yes I can. takes a while to get a reply from him, but hopefully I'll manage to get one again12:35
carandraugwgrant, allenap thank you both. I'll try to contact the owner to change the ownership to me12:36
allenapcarandraug: If you are unable to get a response from the owner, we might be able to help if you request the change via https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion, explaining the situation.12:37
carandraugallenap, it took us almost 2 months to get a first answer from him. He did so yesterday and we exchanged 3 messages by the ubuntu forums and gave me administration privileges immediately. But I'd rather get the ownership from him. If I don't hear from im in 1 wekk I'll do that, thank you12:39
sorenIs the librarian having problems?13:28
sorenhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/python-eventlet_0.9.16-1ubuntu1.dsc gives me a 503.13:28
soren(and that's not the only file doing that)13:29
sorenallenap: ^13:29
sorenPerhaps related: I have a bunch of builds that are stuck waiting for publication: https://launchpad.net/~nebula/+archive/ppa/+packages13:30
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om26er_attachments in bugs are not happening, "503 Service Unavailable" something bad happened?13:41
nigelbom26er_: see topic13:42
nigelblaunchpad librarian issues.13:42
om26er_aah13:43
allenapsoren: I'll take a look.13:52
allenapsoren: The librarian issue is being looked into the the GSAs.13:52
sorenallenap: cool14:02
allenapsoren: So far the news is that it's a hardware issue :-/14:03
moreatiI'm working on a remote linked tickets plugin for Trac and reviewing the way Launchpad does it. Is https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/PluginAPISpec reasonably up to date?14:05
moreatiThe trac plugin is https://dev.launchpad.net/UserInterfaceWording should anyone be interested14:08
moreatiwrong tab, sorry  http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/RemoteTicketPlugin14:08
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andrejzhello! i have a quick question. If a user uploads translation of a package to laucnhpad does it get counted towards his karma or not?14:53
andrejzone of our members is complaining he is not getting any karma for translation offline and uploading to LP14:54
andrejzand i would like to know if this is a bug or expected behaviour14:54
jtvandrejz: I believe there's some karma, yes, but it gets pretty complicated.14:56
mrevellandrejz, Hey there. I'm interested to know how important karma is to translators.14:56
andrejz@mrevell: depends from person to person. to some is an indicator how much they have been working, some don't care but some consider it very improtant and are trying to achieve certain value of karma or certain spot within the team14:57
mrevellandrejz, Thanks.14:58
andrejzthen those can feel a bit upset if they believe not enough karma has been assigned to them as a reward for their work14:58
andrejzi have another question. is it possible to somehow querry on which dates a particular user has been translating?14:59
mrevellandrejz, Do they know that karma degrades over time and that karma is weighted differently depending on where in Launchpad you do things? I'm asking because karma is calculated in  a way that people might consider odd, if they're hoping to achieve a particular score.14:59
andrejzmrevell, yes i explain it to them15:00
andrejzfor this particular user15:00
andrejzhe uploaded a couple of packages which he translated in KDE (and then also uploaded to LP)15:00
jtvandrejz: we do have some information about when someone's been translating — we know a user's last contribution to a set of templates, and there's karma as well.15:01
andrejzand his karma continued to decrease (he got no karma for this work),w ihch made him a bit sad15:01
andrejzjtv: we would like to do a "5 a day project", which means one should aim to translate 5 strings every day, to make it a part of daily routine and also say, even if you don't have much time you can still do a lot of work over time15:01
jtvPlease tell him not to take the karma too seriously.  It's ultimately a pretty arbitrary thing.15:01
andrejzi was wondering if it's somehow possible to do trace that15:01
andrejz@jtv: that's the first thing i said to him15:02
jtv5-strings-a-day?  There's other people doing similar things… I'm not sure whether it's technically possible to keep track of that right now; certainly we don't have UI code to make that easy.15:02
andrejzok, thanks just wanted to check15:03
jtvWhat probably happened in this case is he did some high-karma work a year ago (I think that's what the expiry period is) and that's now expiring faster than he's adding new karma. The last thing he should do is try to keep it up; we wouldn't want our users to  break themselves up for it!15:04
jtvThere is no real consistency in karma.  Sometimes it's easy to get lots for easy, simple stuff that contributes little; sometimes you get nothing for hard but necessary work.  It shouldn't be taken too seriously.15:05
jtvWe do have the translation activity listing on each person's personal Translations page.  That's only one entry per POFile, but per POFile you can also get more information on a particular person's contribution.15:06
jtvBut that's not much help for 5-a-day initiatives because it would mean looking up so many different POFiles.15:06
andrejzhm, ok. thanks for the explanation15:07
jtvSorry the news isn't better; we're currently talking about the need to revamp all this.15:07
andrejzyeah, that could be pretty cool15:10
andrejzin the end people always some sort of reward for their effort. Kamra is one of such things15:10
andrejzalways *want*15:10
jtvIndeed15:11
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sorenI have a bunch of PPA packages that are never getting published. What's going on?19:01
Resistancesoren:  publishing can take some time19:02
Resistancebut if the builds freeze19:02
Resistanceor fail19:02
Resistancethen nothing gets published19:02
Resistancedid you check the status of the builds?19:02
sorenEveyrthing is built. There's a dozen packages. It's been 12hours. I've done thousands of builds.19:02
sorenNot "Thousands of builds" today, obviously.19:02
soren..but I 'm quite familiar with the process.19:02
sorenhttps://launchpad.net/~nebula/+archive/ppa/+packages They're just sitting there.19:03
sorenHave been for many hours.19:03
* Resistance looks19:04
Resistancei'm not an admin but sometimes i see random things ;P19:04
Resistanceah you mean the things with "Pending"?19:04
Resistanceyeah, i dunno19:04
Resistancealthough i can say...19:05
Resistanceyesterday when i backported (within a PPA) php 5.3.6 from Oneiric to Natty, it took 5 hours for it to actually show up in the published list19:05
lifelesssoren: publisher is disabled until the librarian is fully recovered19:06
Resistancewait the lplibrarian exploded?19:06
lifelesssee topic19:06
Resistanceah19:06
Resistanceany eta on the fix?19:06
lifelessnothing I could stand up and salut19:07
lifelesse19:07
sorenlifeless: This week?19:08
lifelesssoren: you know how these things go. If we knew it was going to be extended we would say so19:09
lifelesssoren: I simply don't know enough of the various parameters right now!19:09
lifelesssoren: bear with me a little, ok?19:09
sorenlifeless: It wasn't meant as a snarky question. Sorry if it came across that way.19:10
* Resistance loads up his instance of pbuilder :P19:10
sorenlifeless: It was meant as a serious question.19:11
lifelesssure19:11
lifelessI think it will be relatively short19:11
lifelessubuntu publishing is on hold too - its a big impact19:12
sorenYeah :-/19:13
sorenI'm sure you're doing all you can. I can see (now) that my question could easily be read as provocative. Sorry about that.19:13
sorenlifeless: ^19:13
lifelesssoren: no worries - and thanks19:13
Resistancelifeless:  oh that, i can imagine :P19:15
lifelessok, so the situation is that a raid array had a drive failure and seized up when given a replacement19:19
lifelessIS are being appropriately cautious in workaround around it as toasting the array would lose new files since the last backup19:19
lifelessthey are now going to re-degrade it and hard reset things, which should get us back to accessing that data, which we'll suck off to a new home, and then recovery can proceed without regard for the array contents19:21
Resistancelifeless:  are the builders still working?19:45
Resistanceor is it just the publisher that's down19:45
lifelessjust the publisher19:47
Resistanceso if i upload to the builder i can still get packages built, but not published?19:48
Resistance(thats assuming the builders arent all frozen)19:48
Resistancehmm19:49
Resistanceactually19:49
Resistancelifeless:  according to the build farm page most of the i386 and amd64 builders are down19:49
Resistanceor in this case disabled19:49
Resistanceignore the i386 part, its the amd64s that are down19:50
lifelessI'm not aware of anything directly affecting the build farm19:52
Resistancelifeless:  https://launchpad.net/builders19:52
Resistancenotice the PPA builders under the AMD category19:53
Resistanceignore the working builds19:53
Resistancethe rest of them seem to be disabled19:53
lifelessResistance: I understand, as I say, I'm not aware of anything specific in this category19:56
Resistance*shrugs*19:56
Resistanceoh well i'll just wait...19:56
Resistancesemi impatiently...19:56
Resistancebut i'll wait :P19:56
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falktxhey there20:30
falktxI need help20:30
falktxlaunchpad rss posted twice20:30
falktxhttps://launchpad.net/kxstudio/+announcements20:30
falktxI don't see a way to delete the double/second post20:31
falktxcan someone help?20:31
falktxoh, found it...20:32
falktxvery strange position, not easy to find...20:32
falktxsorry for the noise20:32
EvilResistancewhat noise :P20:37

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