[01:46] how do i install pulseaudio from 12.04 into 11.10? [01:50] Hilikus: you do know there's a lot depending there, right? [01:50] pulse. alsa, kernel, etc [01:50] Hilikus: I would go with audio team ppa [01:51] no, because i haven't been able to try to install it [01:51] ok [01:51] which ppa is that? they compile pulse for 11.10? [01:57] Hilikus: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ppa [01:57] stopped on natty [01:58] FernandoMiguel: that's pulse 0.9.22 [01:58] :S === Guest86932 is now known as kklimonda === kklimonda is now known as Guest35546 === Guest35546 is now known as kklimonda === brendand_ is now known as brendand [13:32] anyone else seeing unity_support crashing? [13:33] not since i switched to KDE [13:33] unhelpful, sorry :/ [13:35] yeah, at least kde is crash-free [13:35] I don't know about that [13:35] just that i gave up on Unity... [13:49] unity is a lagfest [13:49] especially on mesa [13:50] im not lagging === BluesKaj-busy is now known as BluesKaj [13:58] Hiyas all [14:02] hi BluesKaj [14:02] hi gnomefreak [14:19] I'm confused , if I install ubuntu 12.04 on my other pc (running kubuntu 12.04 here) , what desktop will be the default or do I choose during the install [14:19] ? [14:19] BluesKaj: unity is default in Ubuntu [14:20] its either 2D or 3D you can choose when you login [14:20] gnomefreak, yeah, I was afraid of that :P [14:21] I have nvidia 8400gs card installed on that pc , so it should up to the task of running unity in 3D [14:21] should be [14:22] I'm curious about all the fuss and complaining about unity [14:23] it should. hell im using default ati drivers and it works great [14:23] it has bugs a lot of them at times. right now the only one i have is unity_support crash on login [14:23] brb smoke [14:24] Why isn't python-gobject-cairo packages for python3 as well? [14:24] (this also goes for oneiric) [14:25] packaged* [14:31] Vegar: its in 12.04 [14:32] source package is pygobject [14:33] ubottu: info python-gobject-cairo [14:33] python-gobject-cairo (source: pygobject): Python Cairo bindings for the GObject library. In component main, is standard. Version 3.0.0-0ubuntu4 (oneiric), package size 7 kB, installed size 248 kB [14:33] Vegar: ^^^ [14:33] its in both releases [14:41] gnomefreak: I can't find it [14:41] gnomefreak: python-gobject-cairo is for python 2.6 and 2.7 [14:42] gnomefreak: following the naming scheme used for other packages, I am looking for python3-gobject-cairo [14:43] Vegar: in terminal type without the "s "apt-cache policy python-gobject-cairo" it will tell you wher eit is than you need to make sure that repo is enabled. its in main so you should have it enabled but check anyway [14:43] Vegar: `it doesnt have a 3 in it [14:44] gnomefreak: that's the problem [14:44] its version 3.0 why is that an issue>? [14:44] gnomefreak: python-gobject-cairo does NOT have support for python3 [14:45] than why is it version 3.0 [14:45] version 3 of cairo [14:45] or python-gobject [14:45] the package you are looking for is there. now if that is not the issue file a bug on i t [14:45] here is what python-gobject-cairo contains: [14:45] /usr/lib/pyshared/python2.7/gi/_gi_cairo.so [14:45] /usr/lib/pyshared/python2.6/gi/_gi_cairo.so [14:45] no .so for python3.0 [14:45] or 3.2 or whatever [14:46] it is version 3.0 of the gobject-introspection libraries [14:47] but it does not have libraries PYTHON 3 [14:47] this problem is why we file bugs [14:47] I see [14:47] I will do that then [16:14] I'm interested in installing Precise on a real system (no VM) with btrfs with file system compression on... ...or it's not that stable yet, and I should stick to ext4? [16:22] alkisg, the latter [16:22] Thank you bjsnider [16:22] you can convert from extx to btrfs in the future, but not the reverse [16:23] No problem; I'll postpone the compressed btrfs tests for later on, when it's ready [16:28] * alkisg reboots to start the installation... [17:22] Hi, I tried to use virt-manager with spice but it seems precise doesn't support it yet, any idea why? [17:25] does 12.xx use gnome 3 or unity [17:27] batlock: it has unity by default. gnome shell can be easily installed. [17:27] batlock: unity is a shell for gnome 3, but it is not gnome shell. === lamal666 is now known as lamalex === BluesKaj is now known as BluesKaj-busy [19:35] so .... is this unity bs going to be in 12? [19:35] or is there something new yall are trying [19:37] ... [19:37] batlock: coming from someone who disliked it aswell [19:37] it's getting better.... give it an honest try [19:38] use compiz to make it be what you want [19:38] I did [19:38] I can _tolerate_ it and use it [19:38] muli monitor support is still very weak, and I hope they get it fixed before release [19:38] they're focusing on that [19:38] in 12.04 [19:41] you'll soon all be forced to use gnome-shell. one of us! one of us! one of us! [19:41] so if i run compiz with an nvidia 9600gsm and nvidia-current will i see titlebars or will it refuse to draw them like it does in 11.xx [19:42] there is no such problem [19:42] funny [19:43] that's a support request, not a bug [19:43] actually it happens on multiple systems with different nvidia cards.. [19:43] all in 11 (ot in here sorry) [19:44] but gnome3 does look shwagga [19:44] shwagga like unity [19:48] batlock, what's the bug number? [19:48] haven't filed one, can't run the bugreporter when that happens [19:49] usually i'm forced to tty1 sudo shutdown -r now [19:49] how do you expect to get it fixed then? [19:49] what's currently the best tool to erase a disk? [19:49] if unity doesn't work on nvidia, someone _must_ have filed a bug already [19:49] i'm not worried baout that, i'm about to fix it by reverting to 10.10 lts, i'm only in here, to ask about 12 [19:49] batlock: you should have logs afterwards? [19:50] or you could ssh in and get them [19:50] 10.04 was lts [19:50] the 04's are lts? [19:50] yes [19:50] my brain needs a kickstart then [19:50] and every even pre number [19:50] but it's not set in stone [19:50] is 11.04 lts? [19:50] no [19:50] even numbers [19:50] aah [19:50] 8.04, 10.04 [19:50] and 12.04 === BluesKaj-busy is now known as BluesKaj [19:51] allright then.. ty [19:51] but please [19:51] report the bug [19:51] that problem would have been easy enough to fix i'm sure [19:51] I haven't found the bug yet, and I've had unity on a 5600 card [19:51] he just doesn't have nvidia-current installed [19:51] 6200 [19:52] ah he's gone [19:52] i've got quit/joins/parts ignored in this channel [19:52] to much clutter [19:52] it also works with nouveau I think [20:03] is it me, or my PC doesn't know math? [20:03] scrub: scrubbing /dev/sdb1 1500299265024 bytes (~1TB) [20:06] maybe it's rounding down to the nearest terabyte [20:07] it does say ~ [20:07] isn't that a bit awkard? [20:07] [162312.262618] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdb] 2930277168 512-byte logical blocks: (1.50 TB/1.36 TiB) [20:07] I'm scrubbung it :D [20:10] what does that do, write ones and zeroes like dsx? [20:12] nnsa selects patterns compliant with NNSA Policy Letter NAP-14.1-C; [20:26] that's as clear as mud [20:38] bjsnider, more clearly http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=u.s.%20nnsa%20policy%20letter%20nap-14.1-c&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CDgQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oro.doe.gov%2Fprocurement%2Fitrfp%2Fpdf%2FPolicies%2FNAP%2Fnap14-01.pdf [20:38] Er, www.oro.doe.gov/procurement/itrfp/pdf/Policies/NAP/nap14-01.pdf [20:38] use a url-shortener man! [20:38] tl;dr, three passes of random data [20:38] haha yeah, my mistake! [20:39] bitten by google :) [21:02] http://mhall119.com/2011/12/unity-phone-mockups/ [21:06] looks nice. [21:56] Can you fill this up, please? https://secure.avaaz.org/en/save_the_internet/ [22:08] FernandoMiguel, that looks sweet