| === ericm-Zzz is now known as ericm|ubuntu | ||
| arinel | is this a good channel to ask about the ARM architecture? | 02:21 |
|---|---|---|
| twb | If it's ubuntu-related, sure | 02:21 |
| twb | If not, maaaybe | 02:22 |
| arinel | I'll take my chances then. I was wondering if the carry_out from the shifter is fed into the ALU? | 02:22 |
| arinel | in ARM v1-v5 (or so) | 02:23 |
| twb | Way above my head | 02:23 |
| arinel | I can't find a diagram that would show details on this | 02:23 |
| twb | ##workingset might know of an appropriate channel, also recommend you lurk here | 02:24 |
| arinel | aha, thx! | 02:25 |
| === doko_ is now known as doko | ||
| doko | infinity, can you see what is wrong with exo? | 09:19 |
| infinity | doko: Well, the log just looks like bad quoting in variable assignment... | 09:21 |
| infinity | FOO=bar baz ./quux ; bash: bar: No such file or directory | 09:22 |
| infinity | Err, "baz: No such"... But you get the idea. | 09:22 |
| infinity | Should be FOO="bar baz" ./quux | 09:22 |
| doko | must have been blind ... | 09:28 |
| ogra_ | WOAH ! | 09:32 |
| ogra_ | 0 upgraded, 1021 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 09:32 |
| ogra_ | Need to get 325 MB of archives. | 09:32 |
| ogra_ | After this operation, 955 MB of additional disk space will be used. | 09:32 |
| ogra_ | .... | 09:32 |
| ogra_ | thats from apt-get install ubuntu-desktop in my hf chroot ! | 09:32 |
| ogra_ | doko, infinity, you guys rock ! | 09:33 |
| ogra_ | janimo, can i have an armhf ac100 kernel ? :) | 09:33 |
| infinity | ppisati: Any progress on ti-omap4 kernels for armhf? | 09:37 |
| infinity | ogra_: 1021 newly installed? What was that the build-deps for? :) | 09:37 |
| ogra_ | build deps ? | 09:37 |
| ogra_ | thats just a plain apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 09:38 |
| ogra_ | no build deps :) | 09:38 |
| ogra_ | on top of -core btw | 09:38 |
| ogra_ | abh, abootimg hasnt been built yet | 09:41 |
| ogra_ | *bah even | 09:41 |
| infinity | Ahh. | 09:42 |
| infinity | Can fix. | 09:42 |
| infinity | Anything else you need? | 09:42 |
| ogra_ | can you trigger a build without uploading a build1 version ? | 09:43 |
| ogra_ | else i'm happy to do that | 09:43 |
| infinity | There's nothing to trigger, I just had to score it up. | 09:43 |
| infinity | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abootimg/0.6-1/+build/2960109 | 09:43 |
| ogra_ | oh, ok | 09:43 |
| sefokuma | hi, i have a ecafe slim netbook with a A8 freescale i.MX515 | 09:43 |
| infinity | Can I have it? | 09:44 |
| sefokuma | i'm triying to change OS to Ubuntu from this way https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/MX5/QuickStart | 09:44 |
| ogra_ | infinity, stay with the qiockstart :) | 09:44 |
| sefokuma | but when i try to boot system dont boot from sd crad | 09:44 |
| sefokuma | *card | 09:44 |
| infinity | sefokuma: The uBoot on that card won't boot your system. | 09:45 |
| infinity | And the kernel may or may not. | 09:45 |
| ogra_ | unlikely that the kernel works, but you should be able to boot with the exiting kernel and bootloader the device ships with | 09:45 |
| ogra_ | you will need to do a bit of fiddling | 09:45 |
| sefokuma | infinity i select boot from external card with dip switch, i think that netbook must boot from it | 09:46 |
| sefokuma | if ubuntu armel for MX5 its prepared with uboot bootable... why dont work? | 09:46 |
| ogra_ | sefokuma, the bootloader on the SD wont support that hardware | 09:46 |
| infinity | ^ | 09:46 |
| sefokuma | ogra_ ok | 09:46 |
| ogra_ | you need to find a u-boot binary that does and replace the one on the SD | 09:47 |
| ogra_ | same goes for the kernel i guess | 09:47 |
| sefokuma | ogra_ aham ok | 09:47 |
| ogra_ | these images are specifically built for the quickstart board | 09:47 |
| sefokuma | oh! ok now i understand | 09:47 |
| ogra_ | userspace will work on your device | 09:47 |
| sefokuma | i will try install image on SD but overwrite uboot and ulinuximage with originals from guillemot | 09:48 |
| ogra_ | right | 09:49 |
| ppisati | infinity: i'm starting it now | 09:49 |
| ppisati | janimo: off topic | 09:50 |
| infinity | ppisati: Awesome. | 09:50 |
| infinity | ppisati: I uploaded meta that assumes 1401 will build on armhf. So, now I just need a kernel. ;) | 09:50 |
| ppisati | janimo: is mosh micolay (whatever is the name/pronunciation) today? | 09:50 |
| ppisati | janimo: Nicolai Mosh actually | 09:52 |
| infinity | ppisati: It should just be a question of "for i in `rgrep -l armel *`; do sed -i -e 's/armel/armel armhf/'; done && for i in find . -name \*armel\*; do (I can't be bothered to type a decent automated version of "cp foo-armel foo-armhf"); done | 09:52 |
| ppisati | infinity: somehow :) | 09:52 |
| infinity | ppisati: I fact, I can do that right now, if you like, and you can work on newer ABIs and shiny feature merges with 3.2? ;) | 09:53 |
| ppisati | infinity: i'm doing it manuallu right now | 09:54 |
| infinity | ppisati: I would have done it already, but I didn't want to step on your toes and make you grumpy if you were half done. | 09:54 |
| infinity | ppisati: Alright, cool. | 09:54 |
| infinity | ppisati: Just watch for both "rgrep armel *" and "find . -name \*armel\*"... The file copies was what bit apw when he did it. :P | 09:54 |
| infinity | (As in, he forgot) | 09:54 |
| apw | ppisati, very true, you need the d-i bits as well which are in files by arch name | 09:55 |
| infinity | ogra_: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abootimg/0.6-1/+build/2960109/+files/abootimg_0.6-1_armhf.deb | 09:57 |
| ogra_ | yay, thanks ! | 09:58 |
| ogra_ | now i just need a kernel | 09:58 |
| infinity | You have omap. Break out a Beagle. | 09:58 |
| * ogra_ would change the existing one himself but i really really dont want to touch git | 09:58 | |
| infinity | But I can do ac100 on armhf, if you like. | 09:58 |
| ogra_ | well, there is a 3.0 branch ready for testing | 09:59 |
| infinity | I wasn't going to touch git, I was just going to mangle the packaging and let jani sort it. Not because I dislike git (I quite like it), but because I suspect I can't merge to whatever branch he's using anyway. | 09:59 |
| ogra_ | i would assume that janimo is already on it and we get armhf with the next upload | 09:59 |
| infinity | 3.0 would be shiny, but any working kernel is good for now. | 09:59 |
| infinity | Though it's unsupported anyway, blah blha. | 09:59 |
| infinity | So. | 09:59 |
| ogra_ | hmm, so you wouldnt touch git either | 09:59 |
| infinity | Wait for ppisati, and go armhf on your panda? :) | 09:59 |
| ogra_ | then i can do it as well | 09:59 |
| ogra_ | i want to upgrade my ac100 to precise anyway | 10:00 |
| ogra_ | so i can as well try the adventurous cross grade :) | 10:00 |
| infinity | It won't even remotely work. | 10:02 |
| infinity | So, like. Don't try. | 10:02 |
| ogra_ | pfft | 10:02 |
| infinity | libc-bin makes the world explode. | 10:02 |
| infinity | Well, I guess you can try. But be prepared to wipe and reinstall right after. :P | 10:02 |
| infinity | ogra_: Anyhow. I'm about to do the ac100 armhf thing. Unless you really want to. | 10:02 |
| ogra_ | if i unpack -core over my rootfs and then do a simple desktop install .... | 10:03 |
| ogra_ | no. do it if you feel like | 10:03 |
| infinity | Doing. | 10:04 |
| infinity | Build needed 45:44:37, 8327584k disk space | 10:04 |
| infinity | ^-- qt4-x11 on a babbage. | 10:04 |
| ogra_ | nice | 10:04 |
| infinity | We can't get rid of those things fast enough... | 10:04 |
| infinity | It takes, like, 13 hours on a Panda. | 10:04 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 10:05 |
| ogra_ | and 10min on a calxeda :) | 10:05 |
| dmart | Build needed 45:44:37, 8327584k disk space> hah, I remember that. Pretty painful | 10:05 |
| apw | ogra_, but do you have one | 10:06 |
| dmart | 10min> nice | 10:06 |
| apw | and indeed does anyone | 10:06 |
| * apw would like one to build kernels on | 10:06 | |
| ogra_ | apw, sadly not yet | 10:06 |
| ogra_ | in a year from now though .... | 10:06 |
| ogra_ | *g* | 10:06 |
| apw | then build time ->infinity right now on one ;/ | 10:07 |
| xranby | yesterday i started a armhf deboostrap... http://paste.ubuntu.com/761449/ for some reason it stalled and have now been stuck for 12h I: Configuring console-setup... | 10:07 |
| dmart | Sure 1 year + 10 mins ? | 10:07 |
| xranby | am i the only one hitting this? | 10:07 |
| infinity | xranby: I've not seen it. | 10:07 |
| ogra_ | xranby, did you mount /proc and /sys ? | 10:08 |
| ogra_ | i had it doing weird things to my host when it configured procps | 10:08 |
| infinity | The procps madness only happens on upgrade. | 10:08 |
| infinity | Not on debootstrap. | 10:08 |
| xranby | ogra_: no i simply crated the precise-hf foler and executed sudo debootstrap --verbose --arch armhf precise /media/dh0/chroot/precise-hf | 10:08 |
| infinity | xranby: Ctrl-C and try harder? :P | 10:08 |
| ogra_ | oh, right mine was an upgrade | 10:09 |
| infinity | xranby: Although, I haven't tried a full debootstrap yet. I'm only using --variant=buildd and --variant=minbase | 10:09 |
| infinity | xranby: (I'd recommend one of those) | 10:09 |
| xranby | ok i have now used ctrl-c | 10:09 |
| xranby | will chroot into it and see if it are usable | 10:09 |
| infinity | It won't be. | 10:09 |
| infinity | Just wipe it and use --variant=buildd. | 10:10 |
| xranby | heh ok | 10:10 |
| soren | Would Ubuntu work on the new Eee Transformer Prime (including graphics support)? | 10:33 |
| infinity | soren: Graphics are a big "maybe, but not sure yet". The bigger issue right now will be locked bootloaders. | 10:39 |
| infinity | soren: So, uhh. We'll see. | 10:39 |
| infinity | soren: But I suspect a number of people will be buying them to make it happen. :P | 10:39 |
| soren | infinity: What will I need to keep an eye on? Is there a tegra X.org driver where this is likely to land (for the graphics stuff, obviously)? | 10:41 |
| soren | infinity: ...or is this all kernel-side these days, so keeping an eye on LKML will suffice? | 10:42 |
| infinity | soren: Oh, we'll probably have non-accelerate video out of the gate. It's binary drivers that will be iffy. | 10:43 |
| xranby | infinity: --variant=buildd = works for me | 10:43 |
| xranby | thanks | 10:43 |
| infinity | xranby: Figured it would. | 10:43 |
| infinity | soren: But, until we get past the bootloader, I make no promises about... Well... Anything. ;) | 10:43 |
| soren | infinity: Oh, cool. Is there a generic graphics sort of thing for ARM as well (akin to VESA)? | 10:44 |
| infinity | There are a few framebuffer drivers. | 10:44 |
| infinity | For some large value of "few". | 10:44 |
| infinity | ogra_: Running a test-build of linux-ac100... | 10:49 |
| infinity | ogra_: If it's good, I'll upload before bed. | 10:49 |
| soren | infinity: Using one of these framebuffer drivers instead of proper accelerated drivers, will that drain the battery with normal use, or only if I try to do a lot of OpenGL stuff, for instance? | 10:54 |
| infinity | soren: Who knows. The hardware's still a mystery to me until I have one. | 10:55 |
| soren | infinity: Alright. I just thought that was the sort of thing you could answer based on past experience. No worries. | 10:55 |
| === brendand_ is now known as brendand | ||
| infinity | soren: Well, on the Tegra2 netbook I use, I don't use binary drivers, and I get insanely good battery life. Not sure how useful that data point is, but I imagine Tegra3 stuff will play out similarly. | 10:56 |
| soren | infinity: Wicked. Thanks. | 10:57 |
| ogra_ | infinity, awesome ! | 11:09 |
| * infinity taps foot. | 11:09 | |
| infinity | My Panda needs some go-faster juice. | 11:10 |
| ppisati | infinity: i want to do another thing to P/omap4 before i upload, but if you want i can give you an omap4 armhf kernel now | 11:51 |
| ogra_ | ppisati, we need it in the archive | 11:51 |
| ogra_ | to build images | 11:51 |
| sefokuma | hi again | 12:19 |
| sefokuma | i have now a ubuntu-core running on my arm | 12:19 |
| sefokuma | but.. i dont know default password of ubuntu-core fs lol | 12:19 |
| sefokuma | any idea? | 12:19 |
| ogra_ | there is none | 12:19 |
| sefokuma | and user¿ | 12:19 |
| ogra_ | nor is there a user or any networking config | 12:19 |
| ogra_ | you need to configure that by hand | 12:19 |
| ogra_ | -core is to build images on top of it, not for plain usage | 12:20 |
| sefokuma | yes i know | 12:21 |
| sefokuma | but i need first boot and login | 12:21 |
| sefokuma | to continue making system | 12:21 |
| ogra_ | if you want to use it you need to make a bunch of adjustments before using it (create a user, install the networking bits, configure the system etc | 12:21 |
| ogra_ | (before booting into it) | 12:21 |
| sefokuma | ok | 12:21 |
| sefokuma | i was following his steps | 12:21 |
| sefokuma | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core - Deploying Ubuntu Core | 12:22 |
| ogra_ | yeah, thats not complete yet | 12:22 |
| sefokuma | oh ok | 12:22 |
| ogra_ | we have a task to update the documentation for precise | 12:22 |
| sefokuma_ | sorry coniecction time out | 12:25 |
| === sefokuma_ is now known as sefokuma | ||
| sefokuma | ok works | 12:41 |
| sefokuma | but im thinking on copy armel MX5 rootfs directly to SD cardroot filesystem | 12:42 |
| lool | hey folks, does someone know whether someone still cares for the "mobile" packageset? | 13:08 |
| ogra_ | nobody does | 13:08 |
| ogra_ | same for netbook | 13:08 |
| ogra_ | though i'm not sure kubuntu-mobile didnt migrate to just be called mobile | 13:09 |
| ogra_ | better ask them :) | 13:09 |
| infinity | I'm not sure what mobile is anymore. | 13:11 |
| infinity | It has xfce stuff in it.. | 13:11 |
| doko | xfce should build now, unless the desktop team hates xfce even more ... | 13:12 |
| lool | is there a web ui to check packagesets contents and upload permissions? | 13:12 |
| lool | I figure launchpadlib might expose it | 13:12 |
| infinity | lool: No idea. I'm pretty packageset ignorant. | 13:12 |
| infinity | lool: I know that creating/managing them is still an annying by-hand affair with some voodoo. | 13:13 |
| Daviey | lool: edit_acl.py | 13:17 |
| lool | Daviey: I'm not an archive admin | 13:17 |
| Daviey | lool: neither am i, but you can use it to check who has upload access where | 13:17 |
| Daviey | and packageset contents | 13:17 |
| lool | Daviey: where is it? | 13:18 |
| lool | oh wow, lp:ubuntu-archive-tools is public and I never used it | 13:19 |
| Daviey | $ edit_acl.py -P mobile -S precise query | 13:19 |
| lool | worked fine, thanks | 13:19 |
| Daviey | groovy | 13:20 |
| infinity | hildon and xfce and other bits. | 13:20 |
| infinity | That's so painfully obsolete. | 13:20 |
| ogra_ | kill it ! | 13:20 |
| lool | it seems we don't have a process for removing sources from packagesets | 13:21 |
| lool | I mean binaries from packagesets when we remove sources | 13:21 |
| ogra_ | but you should be able to remove the whole packageset | 13:21 |
| ogra_ | which in this case would be proper | 13:21 |
| infinity | lool: Eh? Binaries aren't in packagesets. | 13:22 |
| infinity | lool: Package set define archive rights, it's source-level ganularity. | 13:22 |
| lool | ah right | 13:22 |
| lool | indeed these are used for source upload rights | 13:23 |
| lool | Ok; going to lie down a bit, I feel too sick | 13:27 |
| infinity | top - 13:55:57 up 7:18, 0 users, load average: 12.08, 10.66, 9.29 | 13:56 |
| infinity | And they said the Panda wasn't server hardware... | 13:56 |
| ogra_ | ha ha | 14:02 |
| Daviey | infinity: did you do mdad raid via partitions on a single sdcard? | 14:03 |
| Daviey | redundancy++ | 14:03 |
| S0NiC | hi | 15:04 |
| S0NiC | can anyone help me to change some values for this tutorial https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/BuildEABIChroot? because http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/karmic/Release doesnt exist | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | S0NiC, that howto i sreally really outdated | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | S0NiC, if you feel like, please delete it .... | 15:14 |
| ogra_ | (else we will delete it along woth the rootfs from scratch page etc) | 15:15 |
| ogra_ | *with | 15:15 |
| S0NiC | ogra_ can you tell me another howto? | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | not yet, we will rework all this with the switch to live-build | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | currently the existing howtos refer to obsolete tools adn the new tools arent properly documented yet | 15:22 |
| S0NiC | hmm shit i have to crosscompile a programm for amr7 | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | as for building a chroot, install qemu-user-static, run qemu-debootstrap | 15:23 |
| S0NiC | mom | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | that will create an arm chroot on an x86 machine | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | at least on systems newer than lucid | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | for lucid ask in #linaro for the lucid PPA of qemu | 15:24 |
| S0NiC | i am useing maverick | 15:24 |
| S0NiC | -.e | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | might be ok ... | 15:24 |
| S0NiC | have i to specifiy a target-arch= | 15:24 |
| S0NiC | http://nopaste.info/cae429e70f.html | 15:25 |
| S0NiC | because i get this error? | 15:25 |
| ogra_ | i think aemu-debootstrap defaults to armel ... if not, the same options debootstrap uses apply | 15:25 |
| ogra_ | *qemu | 15:25 |
| ogra_ | yeah, try --arch armel | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | beyond that, all other debootstrap options apply | 15:26 |
| S0NiC | ogra_ i tried... http://nopaste.info/4493dfff57.html but doesnt work ;( | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | well, it tells you what you are missing | 15:29 |
| ogra_ | just follow the suggestion the "usage" line gives you | 15:29 |
| ogra_ | suite is the release name i.e. oneiric, maverick etc ... | 15:30 |
| ogra_ | target is the dir relative to the dir you run the command in | 15:30 |
| * ogra_ hugs infinity | 15:33 | |
| ogra_ | so tomorrow is the image day :) | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | ndec, before end of the week we should have armhf images for panda, beagle and ac100 ... | 15:34 |
| ndec | ogra_: hey! cool. | 15:35 |
| ogra_ | ndec, an armhf recompiled gles driver for panda would rock soooo hard :) | 15:35 |
| S0NiC | sorry i was away | 15:40 |
| S0NiC | ogra_ now it works. thanks | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | :) | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | S0NiC, does your project have heavy dependencies ? else you could just use the cross compiler | 15:44 |
| S0NiC | ogra_ i have a question for my understanding: if its finished i change to the directory and can compile there my program? | 15:44 |
| S0NiC | what do you mean by heavy depndencies? | 15:44 |
| ogra_ | you can run: sudo chroot <path to your target dir> | 15:44 |
| ogra_ | that will switch your filesystem root to the chroot | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | well, libraries etc | 15:45 |
| S0NiC | ogra_ iam new to this ;D thanks, i read this already | 15:45 |
| S0NiC | i try to compile a qtwebkit program | 15:45 |
| S0NiC | i think, thats heavy? ;) | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | ah, k, then the chroot approach is probably better | 15:45 |
| S0NiC | i did some tries but the conclusion was not soooooooooo good ;) | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | if it would have been a cmdline thing that only needs libc that would be lightweight enough to not use a chroot | 15:46 |
| S0NiC | e.g. with make i can compile my program on my target (pandaboard) and on my desktop machine. i tried it with g++ and it doesnt work (its a little c++ program) | 15:47 |
| S0NiC | i see thx | 15:47 |
| ndec | ogra_: are armel PPA building for armhf by default as well? | 15:48 |
| ogra_ | ndec, not yet | 15:48 |
| ogra_ | all that armhf stuff went way faster than expected (after massive probs in the bringup phase we're suddenly far ahead of the plan) | 15:48 |
| ogra_ | ndec, but whats there should be enough to re-roll the binary blob in preparation | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | i'll take care for PPAs soon | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | (i hope we can just make them dual build for both arm arches and be done) | 15:50 |
| S0NiC | ogra_ wow that needs a lot of time... to build the chroot | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | S0NiC, well, it downloads all packages from the archive | 15:50 |
| S0NiC | yes | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | then it unpacks them without using dpkg ... | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | and then it configures them by running the maintainer scripts ... in a qemu chroot each process is wrapped by a qemu call ... | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | so while thats a lot faster than running an actual qemu machine, its indeed a lot slower than if you would build an x86 chroot | 15:51 |
| S0NiC | sounds deep in the system ;D | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | it is deep in the system ... actually on kernel level (for the wrapping of the processes) | 15:52 |
| S0NiC | okay finished no i try to chroot | 15:53 |
| S0NiC | okay i chrooted an now i can try to compile my program ? | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | you will want to install some bits to actually be able to compile | 15:54 |
| infinity | ogra_: "dual build for both arches"? | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | a chroot like this is a virgin system | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | infinity, armel and armhf | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | in two runs | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | would that be very complex ? | 15:54 |
| infinity | ogra_: Yeah, I didn't quite get what you were driving at, though. | 15:54 |
| S0NiC | orga tahn apt-get updaten and so on? | 15:54 |
| infinity | ogra_: PPAs get armel and armhf build records. Just like every other arch. | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | S0NiC, apt-get update; apt-get install build-essential | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | that should get you the very basics | 15:55 |
| S0NiC | ah thanks | 15:55 |
| ogra_ | infinity, well, the armel ones are currently limited (artificailly i think) to build armel only | 15:55 |
| infinity | ogra_: Not entirely true. | 15:55 |
| ogra_ | S0NiC, and then indeed the -dev packages for the libs your app needs | 15:55 |
| infinity | ogra_: There's been plenty of armhf PPA activite. | 15:55 |
| ogra_ | infinity, ah, cool, i didnt know | 15:55 |
| S0NiC | orga thanks | 15:56 |
| infinity | ogra_: It's only the "virtual" ones that have that strange limitation (and they're not actuall virtual, obviously) | 15:56 |
| infinity | ogra_: It's... Messy. | 15:56 |
| ogra_ | infinity, well, we need to enable ndec's PPA for hf then so he can build us the shiny for panda :) | 15:56 |
| infinity | Which team/ppa is that again? | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | that has a physical builder attached | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | TI | 15:57 |
| S0NiC | ogra_ sorry for interrupt your conversation but i get an E: Unable to locate package build-essential | 15:57 |
| infinity | ogra_: That was remarkably unhelpful. | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | ti-omap-dev is teh team iirc | 15:57 |
| infinity | 404. | 15:57 |
| infinity | I'm thinking not. ;) | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | S0NiC, hmm, did you apt-get update ? | 15:57 |
| * infinity asks his panda. | 15:58 | |
| S0NiC | yes | 15:58 |
| S0NiC | nopaste.info/e869c03242.html | 15:58 |
| infinity | ogra_: Oh, I can't tell from looking at it what kind of PPA it is. But it might just magically get armhf build records on the next upload. Dunno. | 16:00 |
| infinity | ogra_: Oh, I can't tell from looking at it what kind of PPA it is. But it might just magically get armhf build records on the next upload. Dunno. | 16:02 |
| ogra_ | infinity, https://launchpad.net/~tiomap-dev/+archive/release | 16:03 |
| * ogra_ had a crash here | 16:03 | |
| ogra_ | chromium actung up usually leads to OOM at some point | 16:03 |
| ogra_ | i'll better buy a bucket to stop the leaking | 16:04 |
| ogra_ | *acting | 16:04 |
| infinity | Or open fewer tabs. | 16:04 |
| S0NiC | ogra_ i have to leave now, it possible to talk later to you=? | 16:04 |
| ogra_ | luckily i dont use a laptop ... so it doesnt leak on my lap ... | 16:04 |
| ogra_ | a netbook must leak to the net, right ? | 16:04 |
| S0NiC | cu guys and thanks for the help | 16:06 |
| ogra_ | ciao | 16:06 |
| doko | infinity, can you apply the mmap patch to the ac100 image too? | 16:50 |
| ogra_ | doko, i guess thats rather a task for janimo | 16:50 |
| ogra_ | (he maintains the git tree) | 16:51 |
| doko | ok | 16:51 |
| infinity | doko: Yeah, I was just enabling armhf in the packaging, jani's working on 3.x source mangling. | 16:51 |
| ogra_ | and he doesnt seem around today | 16:51 |
| ogra_ | (probably a holiday in romania) | 16:51 |
| infinity | I believe someone said it was, yeah. | 16:51 |
| infinity | Anyhow.. | 16:52 |
| infinity | ogra_: You have an ac100 kernel. | 16:52 |
| ogra_ | done already ? | 16:52 |
| ogra_ | geez, these pandas are so fast | 16:52 |
| infinity | ogra_: Can't make images with it yet, cause I can't publish it until the librarian is recovered. :P | 16:52 |
| infinity | ogra_: But you can download it from LP and install it locally and such. | 16:52 |
| ogra_ | right, i plan to roll manual builds tomorrow | 16:52 |
| ogra_ | and will then test the full image | 16:53 |
| infinity | Builds should Just Work. | 16:53 |
| infinity | Unless I screwed up. ;) | 16:53 |
| ogra_ | sure | 16:53 |
| infinity | But what are the odds, right? | 16:53 |
| ogra_ | else i'll fix them | 16:53 |
| ogra_ | if they all work fine i wonder how to make them autobuild ... i fear we are getting to a point where a full set of images will take 24h :) | 16:54 |
| ogra_ | i guess we should just do some selected areches for the start | 16:54 |
| ogra_ | ac100 and omap4 or so | 16:54 |
| infinity | Well, it's on a different machine. | 16:55 |
| ogra_ | sure sure | 16:55 |
| infinity | And post-processing doesn't take long at all. | 16:55 |
| Xase | How do I mount the preinstalled image again to replace the kernel, i cant seem to find it on the wiki. | 16:55 |
| ogra_ | Xase, just re-plug the card after writing it | 16:55 |
| infinity | I bet all 4 flavours on armhf will build in about the same time as they do on armel over two buildds. | 16:55 |
| ogra_ | right | 16:55 |
| Xase | Oh lol.. | 16:56 |
| ogra_ | thats 4h per build and flavour | 16:56 |
| Xase | Never thought about tbhat | 16:56 |
| Xase | it's not even dd'd yet | 16:56 |
| Xase | klol | 16:56 |
| Xase | brb | 16:56 |
| ogra_ | so 8h for two flavours of the same subarch | 16:56 |
| infinity | ogra_: Yes, but arches build in parallel. | 16:56 |
| ogra_ | 16 for 4 etc etc | 16:56 |
| infinity | ogra_: My point is that armhf should be about the same speed as armel, so adding it slows nothing down. | 16:56 |
| ogra_ | it fuills the few time gaps we have öeft | 16:56 |
| ogra_ | *left | 16:57 |
| infinity | ...? | 16:57 |
| infinity | What? | 16:57 |
| infinity | Parallel. | 16:57 |
| infinity | Same time. | 16:57 |
| aquadran | hi, i'm sure it's good place to ask here. i have issue with hdmi audio working on pandabaord with ubuntu 11.10. analog audio works. for hdmi i get 0,5 sec proper sound then it cut and nothing and only some low clicks. worked fine on 10.10 | 16:57 |
| ogra_ | you can only build two in paralell | 16:57 |
| infinity | What are you talking about? :) | 16:57 |
| ogra_ | omap4 is always built on the same builder | 16:57 |
| infinity | armel+omap4 is. | 16:57 |
| ogra_ | we build at least four flavours of omap4 images atm | 16:57 |
| infinity | armhf+omap4 is another machine. | 16:57 |
| ogra_ | we have new live builders ?!? | 16:58 |
| infinity | Adding armhf slows nothing. | 16:58 |
| infinity | Yes... | 16:58 |
| aquadran | is there know issue for hdmi audio, i know for some it works fine | 16:58 |
| ogra_ | OH ! | 16:58 |
| infinity | Lamont and I have been debugging the armhf builder for the last two days. :P | 16:58 |
| * ogra_ humps infinity's leg | 16:58 | |
| ogra_ | i DIDNT KNOW ! | 16:58 |
| ogra_ | whoops | 16:58 |
| ogra_ | i would say disregard the caps but they somehow feel appropriate :) | 16:59 |
| lilstevie | haha | 17:00 |
| GrueMaster | Erm, ogra_, infinity. Kernel panic with the omap armhf netinstall kernel. | 17:05 |
| ogra_ | :( | 17:06 |
| ogra_ | when ? did you get to any console or directly on boot | 17:06 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: Output of the panic would be nice. | 17:07 |
| GrueMaster | Working on it now. | 17:07 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: To see if it's the kernel's fault, or a userspace fuckup. | 17:07 |
| ogra_ | or the bootloader probably :) | 17:08 |
| ogra_ | on omap you never know | 17:08 |
| infinity | My bet's on userspace (well, the initramfs), but I'm blindly guessing. ;) | 17:08 |
| infinity | I haven't actually done a by-hand install yet. | 17:08 |
| ogra_ | thats why i asked about console :) | 17:08 |
| infinity | I guess with the ti-omap4 kernel rolling, I can replace armel on my Panda with armhf. | 17:09 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 17:09 |
| ogra_ | how do we go forward btw | 17:09 |
| ogra_ | do we concentrate all efforts on armhf and leave el be el ? | 17:09 |
| ogra_ | given the state of it i would actually be in favour of that | 17:10 |
| GrueMaster | Hmmm. Not finding init. | 17:10 |
| ogra_ | OTOH, if we find a hard blocker we might be screwed | 17:10 |
| GrueMaster | http://paste.ubuntu.com/761820/ | 17:11 |
| infinity | ogra_: I don't see why they're mutually exclusive. 99% of the work I've done for armhf was duplicating armel. | 17:11 |
| Xase | will renaming uInitrd to uRamdisk be the same thing or is it different? | 17:12 |
| infinity | ogra_: In rare cases, you need an entry for each in a rules file or something (a package that cares about float-abi), but that's 5 seconds of your time. | 17:12 |
| ogra_ | well, i wouldnt like to duplicate testing efforts etc | 17:12 |
| infinity | ogra_: For testing efforts, that's tougher, I agree. | 17:12 |
| Xase | Because the u-boot on the nook color looks for uRamdisk | 17:12 |
| GrueMaster | Xase: ??? | 17:12 |
| Xase | not uInitrd | 17:12 |
| GrueMaster | Ah. Should | 17:12 |
| infinity | ogra_: Testing effectively 8 arches instead of 4 is daunting. | 17:12 |
| rcn-ee | GrueMaster, i'm seeing that same with Debian Sid armhf with mainline.. ;) | 17:12 |
| ogra_ | infinity, plus the work janimo does on live images :) thats one more | 17:12 |
| GrueMaster | rcn-ee: ouch. | 17:12 |
| ogra_ | and likely really slow | 17:13 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: Okay, I'll replace armel with armhf on my Panda today and figure out WTF that's all about. | 17:14 |
| GrueMaster | ogra_: I thought the live images were manually built for the moment. | 17:14 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: It's almost certainly userspace. | 17:14 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, yes, currently | 17:14 |
| ogra_ | infinity, i'm not sure | 17:15 |
| GrueMaster | As to image testing, I am working hard to get a lot of it automated. All the headless testing should be automated by EOY. That leave me with desktop to manually muck about. | 17:15 |
| infinity | ogra_: I did say "almost". | 17:15 |
| ogra_ | "Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs..." | 17:15 |
| Xase | Lessee if udev crashes like crazy this time. | 17:15 |
| ogra_ | thats usually the line before "freeing init memory" | 17:15 |
| GrueMaster | Although I will be short non-omap4 platforms for automated installs. | 17:15 |
| ogra_ | i dotn see it in tobins paste | 17:15 |
| Xase | Nope... it seems to be working :D | 17:16 |
| Xase | YAY | 17:16 |
| Xase | Mouse | 17:16 |
| Xase | ubuntu on Nook Color with a mouse :p | 17:16 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, well, omap4 should soon be netinstallable on hf too | 17:16 |
| Xase | Nothing else so far =/ | 17:16 |
| Xase | Probably something else broke... | 17:16 |
| GrueMaster | Or equally broken. :P | 17:16 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: Does current omap netinstall work on armel? | 17:17 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: Cause the kernel's identical. | 17:17 |
| Xase | but if it got past the kernel loading, I should now be able to retrieve some sort of log from the SDCard right? | 17:17 |
| Xase | Oh wait | 17:17 |
| GrueMaster | I wonder if the switch to no initrd has anything to do with this breakage? | 17:17 |
| Xase | Its still doing its thing | 17:17 |
| ogra_ | Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs... | 17:17 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: That should be the nail in the coffin. | 17:17 |
| ogra_ | hmm | 17:17 |
| Xase | Guest Session login ;) | 17:17 |
| GrueMaster | Will try armel. | 17:17 |
| ogra_ | no error though | 17:17 |
| Xase | Hmmm. Ghetto. The touchscreen is nil working | 17:17 |
| GrueMaster | Xase: You have an ubuntu image on nook color???? COOL!!! | 17:17 |
| GrueMaster | Well, aside from touch. | 17:18 |
| Xase | Yeah, it needs cypress truetouch... | 17:18 |
| Xase | Hmm | 17:18 |
| Xase | I'm using Dalingrin CM sources plus some patches from a mer developer. | 17:18 |
| Xase | But mer dies while loading udev. | 17:18 |
| Xase | Figured it'd continue on the Ubuntu image | 17:19 |
| Xase | Because the suspect in the Mer case is bad dding | 17:19 |
| Xase | However now it's time to see if I can recompile with TrueTouch in menuconfig :D | 17:19 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, "switch to no initrd" ? do you refer to my spec ? nothing has been done for that yet | 17:19 |
| ogra_ | so no worries | 17:20 |
| Xase | make ARCH=arm menuconfig right? | 17:20 |
| ogra_ | i guess apw will explicitly tell us if he (potentially) breaks the world | 17:20 |
| GrueMaster | Ok, something broken on the hf image. I'm in netinstall on armel on omap. | 17:20 |
| ogra_ | k | 17:21 |
| ogra_ | lets wait for omap4 | 17:21 |
| ogra_ | and see if thats omap3 specific | 17:21 |
| Xase | GrueMaster: the ubuntu image doesn't seem to see battery... something having to do with Kernel? | 17:21 |
| ogra_ | rcn-ee, you dont happen to know a workaround ? | 17:21 |
| apw | GrueMaster, odd indeed as the armel and armhf should basically be the same bits | 17:22 |
| GrueMaster | Xase: Possibly. Not sure, since I haven't had time to muck about on my NC. | 17:22 |
| Xase | also I need SGX530, can I chroot into the ARM image from my machine and apt-get install that way? | 17:22 |
| ogra_ | apw, well, compiled differently | 17:22 |
| ogra_ | (theoretically that shouldnt have any impact indeed .... theoretically ...) | 17:22 |
| apw | ogra_, well not really the only change is the float interfaces, and they kernel doesn't use float ever | 17:22 |
| rcn-ee | ogra_, nope, debugging it too right now.. what's weird, it worked fine with the "debian unstable armhf" (sep time frame) repo's.. so something changed between that timeframe and the current sid repo. | 17:22 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 17:23 |
| apw | kernel normally panics if you do use float as the fpu isn't available | 17:23 |
| ogra_ | well, it doesnt seem to be the kernel | 17:23 |
| ogra_ | and by the looks of it even the initrd is fine | 17:23 |
| apw | ogra_, well that is something at least | 17:24 |
| ogra_ | it just chokes on "no init found" | 17:24 |
| apw | hmmm ... maybe we have no upstart | 17:24 |
| Xase | Hrmmm... | 17:24 |
| rcn-ee | GrueMaster, if it helps, my old armhf image is still available: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#armhf_Demo_Image | 17:25 |
| Xase | Truetouch is enabled in my kernel already... | 17:25 |
| Xase | but I'm getting no response from the screen. | 17:25 |
| ogra_ | i dont think d-i uses upstart | 17:25 |
| ogra_ | (unless it has been ported recently) | 17:25 |
| apw | oh alternative cds are they, i was assuming live | 17:26 |
| ogra_ | netinstall | 17:26 |
| ogra_ | easiest to test :) | 17:26 |
| apw | could be a heap of things, do you have the network drivers in your initrd for instance | 17:27 |
| ogra_ | it loads all fine, see the paste of the dmesg output | 17:27 |
| GrueMaster | What (if any) config changes to the kernel are in the armhf rev? | 17:27 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, none | 17:27 |
| GrueMaster | apw: See my pastebin. | 17:27 |
| ogra_ | its just a rebuilds for armhf | 17:27 |
| ogra_ | *rebuild | 17:28 |
| apw | its configuration is identicle between armel and armhf | 17:28 |
| infinity | The kernels should be almost literally identical. | 17:28 |
| GrueMaster | ok | 17:28 |
| infinity | I'm sure the issue is userspace. | 17:28 |
| ogra_ | probably d-i's init uses floating point :P | 17:28 |
| infinity | No. | 17:28 |
| ogra_ | yeah, i know | 17:28 |
| infinity | My bet's on initramfs-tools, and possibly the interpreter not landing in the initramfs. | 17:29 |
| ogra_ | well, lets see how desktop images behave tomorrow, could as well be a d-i issue | 17:29 |
| infinity | I haven't actually built an initramfs on armhf yet. | 17:29 |
| ogra_ | d-i doesnt use initramfs-tools, does it ? | 17:29 |
| GrueMaster | I think it does. | 17:30 |
| * ogra_ thought it uses cpio and whatever compressor directly | 17:30 | |
| ogra_ | as it doesnt use upstarts init | 17:31 |
| infinity | It might do. | 17:31 |
| ogra_ | so i would rather like to wait until we have desktop images and compare with that | 17:31 |
| GrueMaster | We have core, right? I could muck something together that way. | 17:32 |
| infinity | initramfs) \ | 17:32 |
| infinity | (cd ./tmp/omap_netboot/tree && find . | cpio --quiet -o -H newc) > ./tmp/omap_netboot/initrd; \ | 17:32 |
| infinity | gzip -v9f ./tmp/omap_netboot/initrd; \ | 17:32 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 17:32 |
| infinity | So, how it's populating that will be interesting. | 17:32 |
| ogra_ | from udebs indeed | 17:32 |
| ogra_ | intresting would also be what init it uses | 17:33 |
| infinity | My bet's still on the linker. | 17:33 |
| GrueMaster | Could it be busybox? How do I differentiate between armel and armhf versions? | 17:33 |
| infinity | Let me tear apar this initrd. | 17:33 |
| ogra_ | hmm. good question, the file command doesnt know the difference | 17:34 |
| ogra_ | at least not with std output | 17:34 |
| infinity | adconrad@cthulhu:~/ung$ cat initrd | cpio -t | grep ld-linux | 17:35 |
| infinity | lib/ld-linux.so.3 | 17:35 |
| infinity | And that's the problem. | 17:35 |
| infinity | I figured. | 17:35 |
| infinity | Now to see if that's the udeb's fault, or d-i's build process. | 17:36 |
| GrueMaster | diff initrd/bin/busybox busybox/usr/lib/initramfs-tools/bin/busybox | 17:36 |
| GrueMaster | Binary files initrd/bin/busybox and busybox/usr/lib/initramfs-tools/bin/busybox differ | 17:36 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: Of course they differ. | 17:36 |
| ogra_ | indeed | 17:36 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: But the problem is above. | 17:36 |
| infinity | Linker in the wrong place. | 17:36 |
| GrueMaster | Where should it be? | 17:37 |
| infinity | /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ld-linux.so.3 | 17:38 |
| GrueMaster | in the initrd? | 17:38 |
| GrueMaster | Seems odd. | 17:38 |
| infinity | Yes. | 17:38 |
| infinity | And it's my fault. | 17:38 |
| infinity | The udeb has it in the wrong location. | 17:39 |
| GrueMaster | Ok. | 17:39 |
| infinity | eglibc upload incoming. :/ | 17:39 |
| * GrueMaster points blame. | 17:39 | |
| GrueMaster | :P | 17:39 |
| GrueMaster | In the meantime, I'll reassemble this and tally forth. | 17:39 |
| ogra_ | awesome, that means desktop images wont be affected :D | 17:39 |
| infinity | Can you manually mangle the initrd to move ld-2.13.so and ls-linux.so.3 to that path? | 17:40 |
| ogra_ | why not | 17:40 |
| ogra_ | you can cat cpio archives together, the one you append acts like an overlay | 17:40 |
| infinity | I meant to be asking GrueMaster to try that. :P | 17:40 |
| infinity | Not asking if it was possible. | 17:41 |
| GrueMaster | I have a couple of scripts for exploding and reassembling initrd.img | 17:41 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: If you can move those two files (and make sure the symlink still resolves), and try again? | 17:41 |
| ogra_ | so just pull both files out, roll a cpio archive witgh them in the right place, and just cat it at the end of the existing cpio initrd ... then compress it again | 17:41 |
| GrueMaster | ogra_: Don't over-complicate things. | 17:42 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, huh ? | 17:42 |
| GrueMaster | Easier for me to reroll with my existing scripts. | 17:42 |
| Xase | So... I have my touch driver enabled in kernel... however, I don't know how to get xorg to use it. | 17:42 |
| ogra_ | thats way faster than unpacking everything and re-rolling the whole thing | 17:42 |
| GrueMaster | ogra_: On a Core2Quad running at 3ghz? Speed is not the issue. | 17:43 |
| ogra_ | k | 17:43 |
| GrueMaster | (actually takes longer for this discussion). | 17:43 |
| GrueMaster | infinity: Not seeing ld-2.13.so. | 17:44 |
| ogra_ | grab it from a -core image ? | 17:44 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: It's in lib... | 17:44 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: I see it here. | 17:44 |
| infinity | Oh. | 17:44 |
| infinity | No. | 17:44 |
| infinity | I'm looking at the udeb. | 17:44 |
| ogra_ | IT SHOUDL ALSO BE IN /LIB/TRIPLET/ | 17:45 |
| ogra_ | argh | 17:45 |
| ogra_ | sorry | 17:45 |
| GrueMaster | No /lib/triplet directory. | 17:45 |
| infinity | Yeah, nevermind. d-i canonicalises the paths, so no ld-2.13.so | 17:45 |
| ogra_ | lib/arm-blah-foo-bar | 17:45 |
| infinity | ld-linux.so.3 is a real file, not a symlink. | 17:45 |
| infinity | So just move that. | 17:45 |
| Xase | Bah. | 17:45 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: You have to create the directory, it's not there. :P | 17:45 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ld-linux.so.3 is where that one file needs to live. | 17:46 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ that is :) | 17:46 |
| GrueMaster | I know that part. I was just looking for the other file. | 17:46 |
| infinity | Yeah, the other file isn't on the initrd. | 17:46 |
| infinity | On a real system, ld-linux.so.3 is a symlink to ld-2.13.so, in the initrd, ld-linux.so.3 *is* ld-2.13.so. | 17:47 |
| GrueMaster | Had me worried. find was returning nothing in the initrd. | 17:47 |
| GrueMaster | Thought this was horribly broken. | 17:47 |
| infinity | Also, glibc's udeb building is making my eyes cross. | 17:48 |
| GrueMaster | ogra_: time pack-initrd initrd.img initrd | 17:48 |
| GrueMaster | real 0m1.341s | 17:48 |
| GrueMaster | user 0m1.340s | 17:48 |
| GrueMaster | sys 0m0.076s | 17:48 |
| GrueMaster | Just fyi. | 17:48 |
| ogra_ | yeah yeaqh | 17:49 |
| GrueMaster | :P | 17:50 |
| ogra_ | :) | 17:50 |
| GrueMaster | Much better. | 17:51 |
| ogra_ | boots through ` | 17:51 |
| ogra_ | ?` | 17:51 |
| GrueMaster | I'm in the installer. | 17:51 |
| ogra_ | yay | 17:51 |
| infinity | \o/ | 17:51 |
| * ogra_ goes afk for an hour or so | 17:52 | |
| GrueMaster | grrrr. | 17:53 |
| GrueMaster | I'm being hit by bug 838200 (not an armhf issue). | 17:54 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 838200 in u-boot-linaro "No network support on Beagle XM" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838200 | 17:54 |
| GrueMaster | Ok, moving forward again. | 17:55 |
| Xase | o.o | 17:55 |
| GrueMaster | Yea. seems to only affect me, as I have a rev B beagleXM. Rest of the world is on rev C. | 17:56 |
| GrueMaster | Hrm. "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources." Might need to fix this in d-i. | 18:06 |
| * GrueMaster can preseed around it for now. | 18:06 | |
| infinity | That sounds like an oops. | 18:06 |
| GrueMaster | I think d-i has hardcoded arches. | 18:07 |
| infinity | It does. | 18:10 |
| infinity | I suspect Colin just missed a spot or something. | 18:10 |
| * GrueMaster facepalms | 18:10 | |
| infinity | Let me guess, it's using archive instead of ports? | 18:11 |
| GrueMaster | No, actually it is using my local mirror. | 18:11 |
| GrueMaster | But it is updated every 2h, so that shouldn't be the issue. | 18:12 |
| GrueMaster | I think I had to do the same thing for omap4. I know I have the linux-omap4 meta listed there. | 18:15 |
| rcn-ee | sweet, the /lib/ld-linux.so -> /lib/arm-linux-gnueabi fixes debian sid armhf.. ;) | 18:17 |
| infinity | rcn-ee: Yeah. Working on fixing eglibc now, will push to Debian too. | 18:17 |
| rcn-ee | thanks infinity! was about to just figure out where to submit the bug.. ;) | 18:18 |
| Xase | is there a sample xorg.conf or some way of telling xorg to use evtouch? | 18:30 |
| Xase | No one? :( | 18:36 |
| GrueMaster | Xase: You might be better asking that in #ubuntu-desktop. I think all the xorg guys hang out there. | 18:37 |
| Xase | ok | 18:38 |
| GrueMaster | infinity: Rebooting into armhf. Fingers crossed. | 18:47 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: If it installed, I'm confident it'll boot. ;) | 18:48 |
| infinity | (eglibc uploaded and building) | 18:48 |
| GrueMaster | Grr. I hate that it sits and spins waiting for a network. On this broken system, means I have to manually unplug/plug in the cable for link detect to work. | 18:50 |
| GrueMaster | Still waiting on something in init to finish. | 18:51 |
| GrueMaster | It is pingable, but no getty so far. Will need to enable console logging in the boot.scr to see what is borked. | 18:53 |
| GrueMaster | Do I need the updated eglibc or something? It is hanging after "Starting configure network device". System is pingable, but no login. | 19:00 |
| infinity | Nope. Not eglibc's fault there. | 19:00 |
| GrueMaster | ssh appears to work, but no shell. | 19:00 |
| infinity | No shell sounds ominous. | 19:00 |
| GrueMaster | ssh logs in, lays out the welcome mat, then closes. | 19:01 |
| GrueMaster | Hrm. Appears there is no /bin/bash | 19:02 |
| infinity | That seems rather unlikely... | 19:02 |
| GrueMaster | Nothing stands out in syslog. | 19:06 |
| GrueMaster | I have the rootfs drive on my PC now, so I can root arount. | 19:06 |
| GrueMaster | *around | 19:06 |
| Xase | Well that's pretty useless no one helpful with X seems to be in #ubuntu at the moment | 19:13 |
| GrueMaster | Xase: Some of them may be on vacation. | 19:14 |
| Xase | just my luck. | 19:14 |
| Xase | I'm unsure why the already there evdev rules don't catch the screen | 19:14 |
| GrueMaster | It could need to be updated with your device info, and an xorg.conf file could work around it. I am just not sure how to do that. | 19:18 |
| Xase | Well if I even try to add anything to a new rules file or an xorg.conf ubuntu fails to boot. | 19:19 |
| Xase | meh. | 19:26 |
| GrueMaster | Hmmm. | 19:34 |
| GrueMaster | Do you get an Xorg.0.log when you change the config or rules? | 19:35 |
| Xase | Well I have to change it on the sdcard but I'll check, I have no other way to input besides the non working touch screen ;) | 19:35 |
| Xase | Where would it exactly be located? | 19:36 |
| GrueMaster | Yea, I know (I have a Nook Color as well). | 19:36 |
| GrueMaster | Should be in /var/log | 19:36 |
| Xase | Nope it's blank. | 19:37 |
| Xase | I'm sure I'm editing them wrong anyways. | 19:37 |
| GrueMaster | Odd. | 19:37 |
| Xase | It gives me a very specific error | 19:37 |
| GrueMaster | It should at least complain. Anything in /var/log/sysog? | 19:37 |
| Xase | When I mess with xorg it gives this during boot. | 19:39 |
| Xase | (stk) :line disc installation timed out | 19:39 |
| Xase | ti_st_open: st_register failed -22 | 19:39 |
| GrueMaster | That looks like a bluetooth error. | 19:39 |
| Xase | Ah. | 19:40 |
| Xase | So I'm seeing something normally hidden by x | 19:40 |
| Xase | Then boot isn't crashing | 19:40 |
| Xase | X just isn't loading | 19:40 |
| Xase | I'm definitely editing things wrong :D | 19:40 |
| Xase | Nothing in syslog about x11 or xorg | 19:41 |
| GrueMaster | I just got a link from one of our devs. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EloTouchScreen | 19:41 |
| Xase | o.o | 19:41 |
| GrueMaster | Although he also says evtouch is obsolete. | 19:41 |
| Xase | yeah apparently just evdev is used | 19:42 |
| Xase | So try evtouch? | 19:42 |
| GrueMaster | I can't really answer. But the link has some good pointers at least. | 19:42 |
| Xase | well I have no clue how to do that. as I have no idea how to chroot into this sdcard since it's arm. | 19:42 |
| GrueMaster | What are you using for a base image? | 19:44 |
| Xase | Ubuntu Preinstalled Omap3 | 19:44 |
| GrueMaster | I don't know if the gadget port can be enabled or not, but if you could figure that out, you might be able to get a serial console working. | 19:46 |
| Xase | Someone else I'm working with had issues... | 19:46 |
| GrueMaster | Also, the preinstalled image will be a bit more difficult, as it resizes the rootfs and launches oem-config. | 19:46 |
| Xase | Hmm | 19:47 |
| GrueMaster | but if you are able to boot this far, there is a lot that can go forward. I don't know how to do it, but I'm sure you could use qemu to chroot into the image for adding packages and such. | 19:48 |
| janimo | infinity, thanks for the armhf/ac100 bits, I'll add them to the packaging git tree (also I'll check if zinc is still alive in the meantime for user kernels trees) | 19:48 |
| Xase | would... syslog show what devices were detected at startup GrueMaster ? | 19:50 |
| GrueMaster | I would think so. You could also edit one of the init scripts (/etc/init.d) to execute some discovery commands that pipe to a log file. | 19:51 |
| Xase | alright | 19:52 |
| Xase | sort of lshal >> /var/log/lshal | 19:52 |
| Xase | ? | 19:52 |
| GrueMaster | Can you give me a link to your kernel? I'll try to muck with it a bit here in my spare time this week. | 19:52 |
| GrueMaster | Yea, something like that. | 19:53 |
| Xase | Sure, just my uImage? | 19:53 |
| GrueMaster | Actually, I would need that and any modules. Or are they all built-in? | 19:53 |
| GrueMaster | Better still, if you can give me a dd of your sd boot partition, that would give me everything I need. | 19:54 |
| Xase | All bubuilt in sure | 19:55 |
| GrueMaster | dd bs=4M if=/dev/mmcblk0p1 |gzip boot.img.gz | 19:55 |
| Xase | ok I was just about to ask. | 19:56 |
| Xase | o.o | 19:58 |
| Xase | gzip: boot.img.gz: No such file or directory | 19:58 |
| GrueMaster | Oops. dd bs=4M if=/dev/mmcblk0p1 |gzip >boot.img.gz | 19:59 |
| GrueMaster | Missed the > | 19:59 |
| GrueMaster | my bad | 19:59 |
| GrueMaster | infinity: Any hints for what to look for as to why the beaglexm won't boot all the way in armhf? | 20:01 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: Not sure off the top of my head. | 20:01 |
| GrueMaster | I can chroot into the image (using a preinstalled-server image). | 20:01 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: But I'm going to fiddle on my panda in a bit. | 20:01 |
| GrueMaster | Fiddler on the Root. | 20:03 |
| * GrueMaster is in a weirdish mood today. | 20:03 | |
| Xase | Hold on. | 20:06 |
| janimo | infinity, do you know what's with many FTBFS (today at least) not having build logs available? | 20:06 |
| Xase | GrueMaster: data.excloo.com/~jase/boot.img.gz | 20:08 |
| GrueMaster | Cool, got it. | 20:09 |
| Xase | Fack I can't remember how to add a host to known_hosts | 20:10 |
| GrueMaster | On your desktop? Which release? | 20:10 |
| Xase | I have debian to be honest =/ | 20:11 |
| Xase | I'm trying to ssh into my ipod | 20:11 |
| Xase | ad it's omplaining about it... probably because I downgraded its firmware | 20:11 |
| GrueMaster | I usually just delete the offending key entry. | 20:13 |
| Xase | Yeah | 20:14 |
| Xase | That's what I just did. | 20:14 |
| Xase | man sftp is frustrating | 20:21 |
| infinity | janimo: The librarian is down. | 20:21 |
| infinity | janimo: Or, rather, was. It's being recovered. | 20:21 |
| janimo | infinity, I had moments today when it worked so I was not sure if it is down or just being flakey atm | 20:21 |
| janimo | it being LP, I do not know of intricacies such as the 'librarian' | 20:22 |
| infinity | janimo: The librarian is the massive back-end filesystem where large things that aren't database bits are kept. | 20:22 |
| infinity | janimo: packages, logs, etc. | 20:22 |
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