[00:00] <macPawns> no
[00:02] <macPawns> can i just add it?
[00:06] <philipballew_> hey can someone help me compleate this opperation on my system http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1728905 the bottom last post.
[00:07] <philipballew_> I want to do that just by editing text files
[00:08] <philipballew_> Any help would be hot :)
[00:19] <MaynardJKeenan> if I instal the wireless drivers of my laptop through the software center
[00:19] <MaynardJKeenan> should this fix my wireless problems?
[00:22] <bobweaver> hello there I was looking aroung the net looking for top ten things to do after install ubuntu install. and Have found some cool stuff. but I guess I would like to hear from you also. Like what do you install after installing ubuntu. also I am having some troubles with my nvidia (02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200M G] [10de:0845] (rev a2)) I can not seem to get anything to record the desktop,
[00:22] <bobweaver> correctly that is. also my interneal mic will not work here is alsa for that http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=c862089cec79175cfa218c69e04a720c4460136d
[01:20] <holstein> bobweaver: i would suggest, if you are new to linux/ubuntu, just choose your battles... maybe pick one thing.. maybe the graphcis card
[01:20] <bobweaver> thanks holstein
[01:20] <holstein> theres really no manditory reason to install the nvidia drivers
[01:21] <holstein> unless there is something not working as it should
[01:21] <holstein> for the mic, i would install pavucontrol
[01:21] <holstein> its like a suped up GUI for pulse (kind of)
[01:21] <bobweaver> will do thanks
[01:21] <holstein> i would also run in a terminal...
[01:21] <holstein> alsamixer
[01:23] <bobweaver> holstein:  I have
[01:23] <holstein> you can look there at the settings available, and i would tweak them all carefully
[01:23] <bobweaver> and slo tried capturing it
[01:23] <holstein> i would not trust the labels there
[01:23] <bobweaver> lrt me find link to question on fourm
[01:24] <bobweaver> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1792331
[01:24] <holstein> gtk-recordmydesktop is the usual ap
[01:24] <holstein> app*
[01:25] <holstein> bobweaver: you've installed pavucontrol?
[01:27] <bobweaver> not yet
[01:27] <holstein> bobweaver: is that you're hardware mentioned in that forum post?
[01:27] <holstein> did you run alsamixer?
[01:27] <holstein> have you tried newer or older kernels or alsa versions?
[01:28] <holstein> these are the things that will help you trouble shoot...
[01:28] <bobweaver> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[01:28] <bobweaver>   pavucontrol
[01:28] <holstein> i would also just check for upgrades
[01:28] <bobweaver> no I have not ^^
[01:28] <bobweaver> I am up to date
[01:29] <holstein> ok.. you can always just try live CD's if you are not comfortable messing about with kernels and alsa revs
[01:29] <bobweaver> I have also tried kernel from 2.6.3X up
[01:29] <bobweaver> oh I am
[01:29] <holstein> bobweaver: open a terminal and run
[01:29] <holstein> aplay -l
[01:29] <bobweaver> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[01:29] <bobweaver> card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 0: CONEXANT Analog [CONEXANT Analog]
[01:29] <bobweaver>   Subdevices: 1/1
[01:29] <bobweaver>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[01:29] <bobweaver> card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
[01:29] <bobweaver>   Subdevices: 1/1
[01:29] <holstein> output that to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[01:29] <bobweaver>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[01:30] <holstein> ok.. NM... next time bobweaver ... output that to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[01:30] <bobweaver> sorry will paste >> next time
[01:30] <holstein> ok... give me lspci
[01:30] <bobweaver> ok
[01:31] <bobweaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761116/
[01:33] <bobweaver> I will get you more
[01:37] <holstein> wow... looks like duanedesign has your hardware, and he is here sometimes
[01:42] <bobweaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761122/
[01:42] <bobweaver> there is some more info that will be more helpful
[01:44] <bobweaver> I was looking at fourm and last post says to change some things in  alsa-base.conf is this the modual its self ?/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[01:46] <holstein> also, these days hardware is so cheap, depending on what you are doing, $20 might get you something more friendly, and with better quality
[01:48] <bobweaver> I do not have $20.00 usd
[01:48] <bobweaver> if I did I would by food :>)
[01:49] <holstein> bobweaver: its a loose suggestion
[01:49] <bobweaver> :>)
[01:50] <holstein> you *can* fix your device... its something that i would need to be in front of to tech it out
[01:50] <holstein> its something that if i were working on it, i would personally ry the knoppix live CD, and the ubuntu 12.04 daily live CD
[01:50] <bobweaver> I ran: sudo find / -name  alsa-base.conf   this is all I got /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[01:51] <bobweaver> daily builds how to update eachday  ?
[01:51] <bobweaver> svn ?
[01:52] <holstein> bobweaver: you just run it live, and see if your hardware works
[01:52] <bobweaver> ohh
[01:52] <bobweaver> will do
[01:52] <holstein> if you want to install nad run it, you update just like normal, but i would expect breakage
[01:53] <holstein> this is one of those battle you are going to have to choose
[01:54] <holstein> i mean.. you spend a couple hours, and maybe get closer to getting it to work (or not)
[01:54] <holstein> hours, or maybe days... then, you have your internal mic working...
[01:54] <holstein> *any* external mic is going to be better quality, and more appropriate for skype, or making screen casts
[01:58] <bobweaver> yes that is true I do have a extrenel mic and it works. I guess that for me it is about learning. I know nothing about sound in gnu/linux
[01:59] <bobweaver> but I would like to make some tutorials. and I can not gtk-record my desktop is real bad will not work. xvidcap works but I only capture 80% max. so sound is way off. After openshot.
[02:02] <holstein> bobweaver: the problem is not that you or i understand linux.. i mean, theres more i could know for sure... the problem is the vendors
[02:02] <bobweaver> ffmpeg in kde record desktop works but crashs all the time + no mic. So I guess that I would like to have sound and vid at same time to record. Know of Any program for that ?
[02:02] <bobweaver> +1 holstein
[02:02] <holstein> all you can really do is 'vote with your wallet'.. buy machine that come with linux.. buy from vendors that support linux
[02:03] <bobweaver> yes I got this computer for 80 usd
[02:03] <holstein> recordmydesktop is the usual tool
[02:04] <bobweaver> 30 usd for desktop then I traded it on CL for this laptop and had to by HD there is 50 usd so 80 all togeather
[02:05] <bobweaver> reboot time
[02:10] <deper29> hey guys, I'm having trouble setting up my HDMI sound on my tv. I have a gtx 550 ti video card, and tried following this link but I'm not ending up with any results
[02:11] <deper29> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1668737
[02:11] <deper29> might someone be able to help? :)
[02:12] <holstein> deper29: you running 10.10?
[02:12] <deper29> 10.04
[02:13] <holstein> cool... i usually just try live CD's to troubleshoot that kind of thing
[02:13] <deper29> I came to you guys for help a few weeks ago, we never got it, then I hit midterms, tried reading to do it on my own, now I'm here again
[02:13] <holstein> i would get a 12.04 daily
[02:13] <holstein> theres maybe some kernel/alsa config you can come up with that can provide support
[02:13] <holstein> but, maybe not
[02:14] <deper29> I'm unsure :/
[02:14] <deper29> I just updated to a 3.0.1 kernel
[02:15] <holstein> deper29: did it break in that upgrade?
[02:15] <holstein> or it never worked, and still doesnt?
[02:15] <deper29> no :(
[02:15] <deper29> exactly
[02:15] <deper29> :P
[02:15] <holstein> then, reving alsa could help
[02:15] <holstein> i would like to say, it cant hurt ;)
[02:15] <deper29> how would I do that?
[02:16] <holstein> used to be scripts http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6589810
[02:17] <holstein> deper29: for me, its such a non-trivial event, i just test with live CD's
[02:17] <deper29> how do I test with live CDs?
[02:17] <deper29> I have a 10.04 live cd :P
[02:18] <holstein> just download and burn it to a DVD, or USB http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[02:19] <deper29> ah, so you're suggesting to just test out 12.04 occassionally?
[02:19] <holstein> deper29: ?
[02:19] <holstein> im suggesting that you try it... live, just the one time really
[02:19] <holstein> in there will be a different version of ALSA
[02:19] <holstein> and a different kernel
[02:19] <deper29> okay, I will boot this from a USB and see how it goes
[02:19] <deper29> thanks :)
[02:20] <holstein> if its still broken, i think its safe to assume its not going to be fixed
[02:20] <holstein> by ubuntu that is
[02:20] <deper29> kk, that's fair :P
[02:20] <holstein> you might find a proprietary driver that might work
[02:20] <deper29> oh, on that topic
[02:21] <deper29> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761161/
[02:21] <deper29> why would those bottom ones appear as not found?
[02:21] <holstein> looks like that ppa is gone?
[02:22] <deper29> can I add it back?
[02:22] <holstein> deper29: like, its down now
[02:22] <holstein> dead... maybe
[02:22] <deper29> oh, I see
[02:22] <holstein> im not sure whats up with your sources though... dont quote me on it
[02:22] <holstein> i would go through my sources list, and make sure all is looking right and working as expected
[02:22] <deper29> is it possible to remove it so that doesn't come up every time I apt-get update?
[02:23] <holstein> sure
[02:23] <deper29> how could I tell?
[02:23] <holstein> you can do that in 'sources'... you can do that in synaptic
[02:23] <deper29> yeah, I'm in sources
[02:23] <deper29> but how could I tell if something is up?
[02:23] <holstein> you can edit the text file... i would give a read to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[02:24] <holstein> just to familiarize before you do unecessary damage
[02:24] <holstein> you can really bork some things
[02:25] <deper29> kk, thanks for this :)
[02:25] <holstein> sure
[07:00] <deper29_> logout
[09:11] <ApOgEE> I'm playing with lib source. I did ./configure, make and make install
[09:12] <ApOgEE> then try to use it from other source code
[09:12] <ApOgEE> but the other source code couldn't find the lib
[09:13] <ApOgEE> I read that it is about *-dev or *-devel package
[09:13] <ApOgEE> but I install it from source. is there any command like 'make install-devel' or something?
[13:48] <Fathy> my Internet connection is completely throated as when i start downloading with transmission i cant do any thing else even browsing any help
[13:48] <Fathy> not just transmission but get the idea
[13:50] <geirha> Limit the upload speed
[13:50] <Sidewinder1> Fathy, Might it be a port forwarding issue? Or do you think your ISP is throttling the torrent protocol?
[13:51] <Fathy> no i tried with windows every thing is ok
[13:51] <Fathy> so if it port forwarding how to fix it
[13:51] <Sidewinder1> Fathy, Keep in mind that *nix/ubuntu handles porst, quite differently form win.
[13:52] <Sidewinder1> ports, even..
[13:54] <Sidewinder1> Opening/forwarding ports is rather complicated as it's generally done on your router (192.168.1.1, or whatever) first; then you must tell your torrent client which ports to open/listen on...
[13:55] <Sidewinder1> Not really a "beginners" issue, IMHO.. :-) But it's all good..
[13:55] <Fathy> sorry but i but my self under beginners :-)
[13:56] <Fathy> put*
[13:56] <Sidewinder1> Fathy, Also, please keep in mind that I use Vuze, formerly known as azureus; so might not be too much help with transmission.
[13:57] <Sidewinder1> But the concepts are still the same. :D
[13:58] <Fathy> but i guess its not a torrent client issue because that happens too when i just download some file  with firefox or download manager
[13:58] <Sidewinder1> Who is your ISP? Not that that's particularly relevant as ISP.s don't generally throttle torrent protocol, anymore..
[13:59] <Sidewinder1> And, what bandwith do they advertise?
[14:00] <Fathy> 1 megabyte
[14:03] <Fathy> my ISP is TEDATA egypt
[14:03] <Sidewinder1> Well, that may be the bottleneck; I think I get about 22Mb/sec down; and 14mb/sec, down. I can get a two hour movie, if it's well seeded in less than 10 minutes.. :-) Verizon broadband..
[14:05] <Sidewinder1> Not bragging, just saying, that's probably the reason for the slow downloads..
[14:06] <Fathy> may be, but are sure about the bragging part :-)
[14:10] <Sidewinder1> Fathy, Hey, when I first started I was using a 1200 baud modem! I won't tell you how many years ago, that was. We've come a long way, baby!!! :-)
[15:51] <coalwater> anyone here upto a small grep help
[15:51] <coalwater>  grep -iF "\s.*:$" test, doesn't match any line
[15:54] <Sidewinder1> coalwater, I'd be more than happy to try, but, I stink at CLI. :-(
[15:55] <coalwater> ok well, i think i fixed it but i need 1 small change
[15:56] <coalwater> ^word$^word$^word$, assume im trying to catch each word between ^ and $, mine catches the first ^ with the last $, i want it to see the ones in the middle
[15:57] <coalwater> Sidewinder1: :)
[19:53] <jlxb> Hello!  I am new to Ubuntu and in 30 years Ive never used IRC before.  Help I'm stuck!  Anybody know where I should go to get assistance recovering an NTFS file system on a newly installed Ubuntu 11.10 on Dell inspiron 6000?  Thanks
[19:54] <urlin2u> jlxb, did you overwrite the ntfs, and are  you using that computer right now?
[19:56] <jlxb> No not on that system...... Yes maybe overwritten or partially.  I can see the file system but with no files/directories.  do you need a short explination?
[19:57] <urlin2u> jlxb, details always matter, not sure if I'm the one to help, personally I always have backups just for this sort of occasion.
[19:58] <urlin2u> jlxb, the deal here is you see a file system, is it just not showing the files due to maybe needing a chkdsk, or did you actually overwrite it is the question from me.
[20:00] <urlin2u> jlxb, you might also try ##windows since it is a ntfs as well.
[20:02] <jlxb> I was installing Ubuntu in order to recover a crashed MBR.  I followed directions carefully.  Ubuntu install gave me the option to install alongside of an existing windows install in order to dual boot.  Upon successfull install and reboot there was only one boot option (ubuntu).  from the ubuntu install I can see that it has devided the ntfs file system in order to install - not sure
[20:02] <jlxb> if it wacked any files in the ntfs file system.  So ubuntu shows me the ntfs file system but with no files.  Can't figure out if windows xp or any files are actually there or recoverable.  What is ##windows?
[20:05] <urlin2u> jlxb, ##windows is the windows irc channel. So your using the ubuntu on the same HD as the XP right? Did you know how many partions were on the HD when you installed the ubuntu?
[20:07] <urlin2u> jlxb, you could have recovered the mbr so that XP would have booted without installing Ubuntu, using the Ubuntu live cd as well.
[20:09] <urlin2u> jlxb, so can you boot thwe live ubuntu disc on that computer and run this script and pastebin the results text.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[20:10] <jlxb> yes and yes.  there is one additional partition now.  Ubuntu took a single 80gb NTFS partition and devided it into two.  One is labeled as ntfs @ 47gb and the other is ext4 @ 33gb (the new ubuntu install).  I followed the directions to preserve the windows install.  This is what I got.
[20:12] <jlxb> I tried do a recovery from the live CD.  It was wicked unstable, slow and such poor color/resolution selection that I could not make out the screen or see anything to control or change it - black screen.
[20:12] <urlin2u> jlxb, the more you use that HD that was messed up the less likely you will recover anything, it sounds like you had a max amount of partitions allowed for a single hd which is 4 primaries or 3 primaries and a extended. Hard to say though as I suspect you don't know this limitation hard to tell from my end.
[20:13] <urlin2u> jlxb, the mbr replacement you would have used is lilo does this sound familiar?
[20:13] <urlin2u> not grub
[20:14] <urlin2u> without a ubuntu install but just to boot xp.
[20:15] <jlxb> There were 3 total to start with.  There are now 4 total including 2 that are factory installed to hold Dell diagnostics and installation media.  The only option dell gives is a distructive re-install
[20:15] <jlxb> Lilo option did not present itself
[20:16] <urlin2u> jlxb, you probably had 4 but 3 if you did not add the extended to put ubuntu in could cause this problem. Lilo would not present itself you have to know how to just install it.
[20:17] <jlxb> I have seen and used lilo in other linux installs.  I did not see any option in the ubuntu install.  This system will not boot from an XP home or pro install CD - go figure.  It would boot from Ubuntu
[20:17] <urlin2u> jlxb, ho9w long have you been using the ubuntu on this hd?
[20:17] <urlin2u> how*
[20:17] <jlxb> it has been on for 24 hours - nothing new written to the drive since install
[20:19] <jlxb> I am suprised it did not give me the lilo option as I followed the path that said go this route for a dual boot.
[20:21] <urlin2u> jlxb, lilo is in the repo and not part of any install, you would have just put it in the mbr and booted XP. YOu could look at testdisk but I would curb your hope here, and in the future clone your installs.  http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk  Check on the ##windows channel as well maybe there are recovery apps they would know about as well.
[20:22] <jlxb> It would not boot from an Ubuntu usb stick either - even though the notebook is supposed to support it.
[20:22] <urlin2u> jlxb, you can always boot a workable cd or usb if you know the key prompts to get to the outside of the bios boot from menu.
[20:23] <urlin2u> jlxb, the method of changing the bios to read a cd or usb first does not always work so knowing this other menu and the key/keys to prompt at powering on are the key.
[20:24] <jlxb> I do not.   The notebook alows for usb and or cd boot but I could not get it to boot from any Windows cd or any USB boot stick.  It would boot from the ubuntu live cd - what gives?
[20:25] <urlin2u> jlxb, not sure to many variables there, we don't guess generally if we can avoid it.
[20:25] <jlxb> If I understand you correctly... I know exactly how to get the pc to boot from alternate media - it just would not allow it after perhaps dozens of attempts
[20:27] <urlin2u> jlxb, are you familiar with the out of the bios not in the bios boot from menu, on my computer a acrer d250 netbook it is f12 at powering on the Ubuntu cd says to try f12 on the gui as it comes on if you look carefully.
[20:27] <urlin2u> jlxb, you have a very short time there though.
[20:30] <jlxb> Rehtorical question - Why would Ubuntu not tell me that it had chossen a destructive install path when it gave me the option to do a non-destructive install?    Yes, am familiar,  it is f12 on the dell as well.  When using windows based boot media or any usb  - it would not boot.  When using Ubuntu cd it booted instantly.
[20:32] <urlin2u> jlxb, as far as the ubuntu telling you a destructive install will happen you have to have recognize that it did what you asked but you asked mistakenly I suspect.
[20:32] <urlin2u> jlxb, a install disc can't tell which NTFS is a operating system it just see partition types.
[20:32] <urlin2u> sees
[20:34] <urlin2u> jlxb, sorry to hear that this happened though, I would never do a sise by side when you can do a custom and make sure you are in full control.
[20:34] <urlin2u> side*
[20:34] <jlxb> Perhaps you are correct. Never above stupid user mistakes.  The problem almost always between the chair and keyboard.Ubuntu disk diagnostics it indicates the NTFS file system is not clean but shows no files/dir.
[20:36] <urlin2u> jlxb, you might look at the testdisk option I have seen people get full recoveries at least claim to but I have never actually used it. There are windows based apps I have seen suggested on the windows channel as well. I just clone stuff I lost a bit of music once that is all it took for me to always backup and clone now when needed.
[20:43] <jlxb> I have downloaded a copy of testdisk and will give a whirl. At this point I can only use it under linux/ubuntu.  Will try to run it off a cd.    This pc came from off my network - thats what I get for trying to help a friend.  Wait till he learns he lost 5 years of his precious email
[20:46] <jlxb> Thanks all for your assistance
[20:46] <urlin2u> jlxb, you should only be using the testdisk from a live cd your trying to recover area that ubuntu us now in if i understand you correctly. Your friend should be backed up anyway clonezilla a open source cloner is free and easy to use.
[20:46] <urlin2u> us-is
[20:46] <urlin2u> us=is