[12:12] Hi, how can I suspend when using a WM like openbox? without root passwd? uPower? [22:54] evening [22:56] you're in late [23:00] hey moylan [23:00] worked mon tue [23:00] off wed thurs :) [23:00] how are you moylan? [23:00] time to put on the combat boots and crimbo shop? :-D [23:01] getting by. did you see xtravisions android for €100? [23:01] * airurando shudders at the thought :( [23:01] not the android [23:01] more the crimbo shopping [23:02] and no i didn't [23:03] http://www.xtravision.ie/electronic/Archos-A7-eReader [23:03] only negative i can see is no mention of market place. might be locked down as archos has a history of that [23:05] very interesting [23:05] just that a few months ago a lot of stories around the hp tablet were focused on android tablets would only suceed when £200 tablets were common and here we are with 100 versions around [23:06] aye [23:06] apple will keep the high end but their dominance in this market is over. [23:07] indeed [23:08] for the price of their cheapest you can carry 5 7" tablets. that's 50 hours of battery life if toy wanted... [23:08] though you'd look a bit silly with 5 tablets [23:08] but android will always suffer/benefit from maannnnyyyyy hardware variants. [23:08] 7" min [23:09] i'd rather schools bought android than ipads for students [23:09] yeah [23:10] one is a open and encourages creative minds and the other is an ipad [23:10] yes [23:11] my daughter is involved with a north/south project called dissolving boundries [23:11] neat! [23:11] now if we can only get past the dublin accents! :-D [23:11] a wiki is involved [23:12] my daughter Orla doesn't have a dub accent! [23:12] ding pics to the wiki was interesting [23:12] *uploading [23:12] loads of licensing options [23:13] including all the cc [23:13] * airurando haad a very interesting discussion with orla about the licensing options [23:15] well she can learn a valuable lesson today. even zuckerburgs private images were leaked. what goes on the internet stays on the internet. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3318652 [23:19] I chatted with her about http://creativecommons.org/licenses/ [23:19] made some heradway [23:20] brought it to the attention of her teacher [23:20] was met by a blank face.... [23:20] now THAT is useful. if the teacher listens that is... [23:20] sent a hardcopy of the page to the teacher [23:21] but fear it was ignored [23:21] the project is run through NUI maynooth [23:21] there was great article recently about an american school that saved a few thousand dollars by creating its own school books. [23:22] yeah? [23:23] well the price of school books is silly. and they are changed minutely every 2-3 years so that used ones lose their resale value [23:23] 2-3 years? 2-3 mins in my opinion [23:23] I hear ya [23:24] and stick an electronic version on a €100 ebook reader with e-ink and save the kids a hernia [23:26] you speak logic [23:26] but logic currently does not prevail [23:28] the problem is they are using logic to fix a human problem. they need to use bribery. ie. any budget saved on books goes to teachers resources in class. [23:28] make a teachers job easier and they are motivated to try [23:29] if only it were that simple [23:29] it is [23:30] but if only (riddled with sarcasm) [23:36] http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2011/11/06/anoka-hennepin-teachers-write-online-textbook/ [23:41] moylan: you are preaching to the converted [23:41] how can this achyieve critical mass? [23:42] *achieve [23:43] that appears to be the perenial problem. [23:44] well with the recession more and more parents will struggle to pay for school materials. this is the opportunity to reach them if it saves them money with little effot [23:44] *effort [23:45] lol. I know the effects of the recession. [23:45] for the first time in 6 years I've talked to my wife about returning to work [23:46] moylan; how do you fignt against the norm? [23:47] eventhough the norm is wrong. [23:47] humour is the best weapon, for me. example: http://twitter.com/#!/angryearthling/status/144201042077302785/photo/1 [23:47] without even looking at it i agree. [23:48] humour is a great weapon! [23:49] dahm we are at level 4??????? [23:49] i would have put us above italy myself [23:50] we have " the referendum" [23:50] I'd place us at the top tier! [23:50] oh yes, lets get rid of the seanad. that will help. then the politicians will have no one looking over their shoulders [23:51] not a chance any REFERENDUM will pass [23:51] SEANAD WILL NOT GO [23:52] they can always manourvre a few crises or scandals before it to help. also a release of how much it costs won't help the seanad [23:52] checks and balances [23:52] that's the whole point of the seanad [23:52] s3eanad will not go IMO [23:53] *seanad [23:55] * airurando must go to bed as there are kids to be dealt with in the morning [23:56] great kids btw..... [23:56] nn [23:56] cya