[01:54] <sweemeng> https://wiki.mozilla.org/GamepadAPI
[02:02] <ApOgEE> morning all
[02:03] <sweemeng> hi ApOgEE 
[02:03] <sweemeng> https://wiki.mozilla.org/GamepadAPI
[02:03] <sweemeng> interesting stuff of the day
[02:04] <sweemeng> after kepler-22b
[02:21] <ApOgEE> sweemeng: yes interesting
[02:21] <sweemeng> in the future we are header, we don't need a desktop!!!!!!
[02:22] <sweemeng> in the future we are heading, we don't need a desktop environment!!!!!!
[02:22] <sweemeng> and it will not be emacs
[02:24] <ApOgEE> what a coincidence... i was looking at creating firefox xpi few hours ago
[02:26] <ApOgEE> reading thru and getting to know XUL
[02:28] <ApOgEE> perhaps, there is something I have to do about it... but I haven't got any idea yet...
[02:29] <sweemeng> these api is for webapp, not plugin
[02:29] <ApOgEE> indeed, but it relates in sense of browsing experience
[02:31] <ApOgEE> something in my brain... about getting something more, out of ordinary web experience... but I couldn't pull it out yet
[02:32] <sweemeng> have other project
[02:32] <sweemeng> otherwise, i am to write some classic game for this
[02:33] <ApOgEE> heheh.. is it possible to integrate 3D game on the API?
[02:34] <ApOgEE> or perhaps, 2D game with 3D experience
[02:36] <ApOgEE> sweemeng: I feel very happy this morning, since I could download 2GB torrent, completed in less than 2 minutes
[02:36] <sweemeng> nais
[02:36] <sweemeng> ApOgEE, webgl
[02:37] <sweemeng> it is a 3d for use in browser
[02:37] <sweemeng> via javascript
[02:37] <ApOgEE> i don't know if it is because of the seeds... or my internet speed
[02:37] <ApOgEE> but this is awesome
[02:37] <sweemeng> hard to say mate
[02:37] <sweemeng> hard to say
[02:38] <ApOgEE> I don't know if you like this stuff, kinda 'fanboy' stuff... LOL
[02:38] <ApOgEE> http://www.sysprobs.com//wp-content/uploads/2010/05/MacOSX_Snow_leopard_10.6.2.0_for_VmWare_(2010)-included.5542199.TPB.torrent
[02:39] <ApOgEE> hahaha
[02:41] <ApOgEE> sweemeng: from an article I just read... Linux: quite a large number of Linux graphics drivers are, sadly, not good enough to work with WebGL.
[02:41] <sweemeng> and that too
[02:41] <sweemeng> =.=
[02:41]  * sweemeng just got a machine running optimus
[02:41]  * sweemeng wonder
[02:42] <ApOgEE> ...
[02:43] <sweemeng> have to drop hacking on cuda 
[02:43] <sweemeng> for other project
[02:43] <ApOgEE> what is your current project?
[02:43] <sweemeng> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sinar-project
[02:43] <sweemeng> scraping part of these guys
[02:44] <ApOgEE> hmm... nice
[02:45] <ApOgEE> open data... what is actually the output format?
[02:45] <sweemeng> doesn't matter
[02:45] <sweemeng> currently we go for json
[02:45] <ApOgEE> could it be anything I like? json, xml, etc
[02:45] <sweemeng> json
[02:46] <ApOgEE> cool...
[02:46] <ApOgEE> where to submit the data? on my own server?
[02:46] <sweemeng> and we have to scrape
[02:46] <sweemeng> kaeru is creating a server
[02:46] <sweemeng> you can host it yourself first
[02:47] <ApOgEE> I see... so then, the data can be use by mobile apps and whatnot
[02:47] <sweemeng> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmN4VC_DvFzBdFdNaDhGRFhVcW1iQWk1N0VzZnVJWEE&hl=en_US#gid=0
[02:47] <sweemeng> ApOgEE, thats the whole idea
[02:47] <ApOgEE> great!
[02:47] <sweemeng> this is the place holder of the catalog
[02:47] <sweemeng> once server up
[02:47] <sweemeng> i put a full catalog there
[02:47] <sweemeng> then also host data or what not
[02:48] <ApOgEE> I'm interested to work on one... looking after some collection of useful data to scrape... heheh
[02:48] <sweemeng> https://github.com/sinar
[02:49] <sweemeng> ApOgEE, those are processed one
[02:49] <sweemeng> ApOgEE, didn't have a data list yet
[02:49] <ApOgEE> sweemeng: it is legal to republish the scraped data right?
[02:49] <sweemeng> because it depends apparently kaeru have asked during oscc days
[02:49] <sweemeng> it is public domain
[02:50] <ApOgEE> I'm afraid that IC list could be sensitive... 
[02:50] <ApOgEE> isn't it?
[02:50] <sweemeng> hmm
[02:50] <sweemeng> yeah
[02:50] <sweemeng> personally identifying information is sensitive
[02:50] <sweemeng> because of privacy
[02:51] <ApOgEE> then, if we can scrape it even from public domain, and put it on the list... we may have some trouble
[02:51] <sweemeng> yeah
[02:52] <sweemeng> but if it is stuff like company information, then the board member information is public
[02:52] <sweemeng> just saying
[02:52] <ApOgEE> If it wouldn't cost any legal issue, I'm looking after scraping free mp3 download links... hahahaha...
[02:53] <sweemeng> =.=
[02:54] <ApOgEE> list it by genre, country of origin.... perhaps, list of malaysian songs would be priceless...
[02:54] <sweemeng> yang lanun lanun jangan la
[02:54] <ApOgEE> and then, KDN will search me and give me some trouble
[02:55] <sweemeng> we are focus on govt information anyway
[02:56] <ApOgEE> gov info... hmm... i don't really have any interest in that. and couldn't think about why others are so interested in that. since they are not interested in me either... lol
[02:58] <sweemeng> the big idea is http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/10/data-new-york-city.html
[02:58] <sweemeng> use it for something we can use
[03:00] <ApOgEE> sweemeng: sometimes we have to be carefull with transparency propaganda...
[03:00] <sweemeng> then we need comparative data
[03:00] <sweemeng> we start with one side
[03:00] <sweemeng> then go another side
[03:00] <sweemeng> it is non partisan 
[03:01] <sweemeng> and there is a part to get user to submit it
[03:03] <ApOgEE> even it is non partisan, i still kept secret of some sensitive raw data on data monitoring i did, because some sensors faulty will cause people panic.... lol
[03:04] <ApOgEE> they want to know it like making everything transparency... when they knew, they got panic...
[03:06] <sweemeng> ApOgEE, so be it
[03:06] <sweemeng> there is stuff that we kept secret
[03:06] <sweemeng> like i am not going to go out tell how much money i have
[03:06] <ApOgEE> that's why they said.. 'the truth is bitter'
[03:07] <sweemeng> but there si stuff from the administration by the big g or even the opposition state need to be transparent
[03:07]  * sweemeng don't trust anyone
[03:07] <ApOgEE> yeah, that's okay
[03:07]  * ApOgEE either
[03:07] <ApOgEE> ;P
[03:08] <sweemeng> so put everything out
[03:08] <sweemeng> see how it goes
[03:08] <sweemeng> at least we wouldn't hearing stupid stuff quoted by citizen 
[03:09] <ApOgEE> hmmm... i don't have any idea yet on what kind of data should be interesting in that subject
[03:09] <sweemeng> ApOgEE, one thing i really really want to do
[03:10] <sweemeng> http://open311.org/
[03:10] <sweemeng> non critical issue reporting
[03:11] <sweemeng> so that everybody can pressure local authority to finally fix the potholes
[03:11] <sweemeng> haha
[03:12] <ApOgEE> even thou it looks 'Mars' or 'Zargus' to me at the moment, I can see some good things nearby
[03:12] <sweemeng> cool
[03:12]  * sweemeng meanwhile trying to do something
[03:13] <sweemeng> 3 more week till leaving this office
[03:13] <sweemeng> haha
[03:13] <sweemeng> more like 18 working days
[03:13] <ApOgEE> oh wow... where are you going?
[03:13] <sweemeng> =.=
[03:13] <sweemeng> no where
[03:13] <sweemeng> attempt to be independent while i still can
[03:13] <sweemeng> i.e single not married
[03:13] <sweemeng> no kids haha
[03:15] <ApOgEE> I'm jealous ... X\