mhall119software upgradable hardware?  What kind of hardware do you have?01:15
MrChrisDruifIs not what I meant =')02:37
MrChrisDruifI meant that hardware already can get firmware upgrades02:38
MrChrisDruifmhall119; ^03:01
mhall119oh, and here I was trying to apt-get install more-ram03:23
willcookeinteresting, Lenovo getting in on the HTPC thing16:49
mhall119holy hell, who came up with that remote control design?16:53
mhall119I can't imagine anybody would feel comfortable using that16:56
tgm4883mhall119, I've seen one, they aren't that bad16:57
tgm4883that image makes it look uncomfortable though16:57
willcookeBTW guys, I realise I've been conspicuous by my absence over the last couple of weeks.  I'm putting plans in place to address that asap....16:59
willcookejust need to get a few other things put away first.17:00
mhall119willcooke: when you and repete have time, perhaps we can hold a scheduled discussion time to try and get everybody here at the same time?17:01
willcookemhall119, certainly - that sounds like a great idea.17:02
willcookeI'll push to get that set up early next week, and I'll make an announcement or something on the mailing list17:03
MrChrisDruifAlso add it to the Fridge17:03
willcookeI'd guess that around this sort of time would be best for most people17:03
MrChrisDruifI posted something earlier about weekly meetings, but no-one gave any response whatsoever17:04
willcookeMrChrisDruif, good idea.  Who's got access to the fridge door?17:04
MrChrisDruifwillcooke; I know how to add stuff on that17:04
* MrChrisDruif should be warming-up dinner, so he goes on doing that17:05
willcookeMrChrisDruif, I didn't see your message I'm afriad, I think it might have got lost in the heated debate that was going on :)17:05
MrChrisDruifwillcooke; https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-tv/msg00016.html17:06
willcookeThx MrChrisDruif - well, I'll aim for that slot next week.17:07
willcookeI'll come back with a confirmation one way or the other asap17:07
MrChrisDruifAlright, just let me know17:10
MrChrisDruifTonight I'll be of for orchestra rehearsal17:10
willcookeMrChrisDruif, cool - have fun!17:15
MrChrisDruifThanks willcooke =)17:15
AlanBello/ willcooke17:19
willcookehowdy AlanBell17:20
tgm4883comedic, but IMO relevant to the 3D discussion   http://theoatmeal.com/blog/3d_movies18:41
mhall119ah theoatmeal, so crude and yet so right18:57
dmj726Well, I think 3D has its place, but I'm not sure it should be an immediate priority for us19:03
willcookeagreed - I don't think 3D is out of the gimmick phase quite yet19:04
dmj726I've seen a couple films enhanced by 3D, and one to which 3D was essential19:06
dmj726That said, we're still somewhat in the gimmick phase, though most films are less gimmicky about it than 3D films of prior decades19:10
willcookeIt's interesting, things like "Jaws 3D" were piss poor certainly, but I get the impression some modern day 3D films were made in 3D only because they could charge a few extra bucks to see them, rather than being designed to benefit from 3d directly.19:21
willcookeThat said, I've never actually seen a modern 3D movie19:21
willcookeI refuse to be taken in by the shameless money grabbing19:21
willcookeI'm sticking it to the man!19:21
dmj726willcooke: the shameless postconversion is rather questionable19:23
dmj726A few directors actually do a good job using it as an enhancement to already quality work, like Martin Scorsesee's Hugo.19:24
AlanBellI have no idea how they do that19:24
AlanBellnow I do :)19:25
willcookeand so do I19:25
dmj726Cave of Forgotten Dreams isn't the same film in 2D as in 3D, but that's because it's documenting these ancient cave paintings and in 3D it feels like you're actually in the cave with the paintings.19:25
dmj726of course the last one won't be breaking box office records19:26
tgm4883dmj726, I'll have to take a look at that. I don't think I understand why if you are looking at cave paintings (paintings on a wall) that it would look different in 3d rather than 2d20:14
dmj726tgm4883: The cave walls are highly curved20:15
tgm4883also, I'm not 100% sure how that would extend to other genres in a meaningful way20:15
dmj726and the curves are important to the way the people painted on them20:15
tgm4883I'll have to see it20:15
dmj726tgm4883: I'm not saying it would apply to other genres20:16
tgm4883It's like IMAX, it only applies to some very specific films20:16
dmj726just that it is possible to have 3D be an important artistic tool for a film20:16
dmj726Personally, I think most 3D films are just doing it for the money, but I don't doubt that there will be some films for which it is clearly better20:17
dmj726it also could be useful for certain kinds of software20:17
dmj726I'm not suggesting we devote much effort to 3D support right now though20:18
dmj726just not writing it off20:18
dmj726especially given that it has been used much more artistically recently than in the past20:18
dmj726(Alfred Hitchcock excepted of course)20:19

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