[00:43] <snap-l> rick_h_: Bah
[00:43] <rick_h_> snap-l: party pooper
[00:44] <snap-l> rick_h_: har har
[01:16] <rick_h_> jcastro: http://www.outflux.net/blog/archives/2011/12/05/ec2-instances-in-support-of-a-bsp/
[01:18] <rick_h_> jjesse: chilling in your fancy room?
[01:18] <jjesse> yes sir
[01:19] <jjesse> the JW Marriott is probably the nicest hotel setup I've been in
[01:19] <rick_h_> nice
[01:19] <jjesse> they treat you very nice and status helps :)
[01:24] <jjesse> rick_h_, you hanging out by yourself?
[01:24] <rick_h_> jjesse: was, trying to see if I do hang outs when chilling hacking on bookie anyone stops by :)
[01:24] <jjesse> ah
[01:31] <_stink_> just checked for your hangout, rick_h_
[01:31] <_stink_> don't see it
[01:31] <_stink_> maybe i'm g+ handicapped
[01:31] <rick_h_> _stink_: heh, well it's gone now
[01:31] <rick_h_> I closed up, about to head offline
[01:32] <rick_h_> do I not have you in a circle _stink_ ?
[01:32] <rick_h_> oh, you're in ther
[01:32] <rick_h_> there
[01:32] <_stink_> rick_h_: "You are in Rick Harding's circles too"
[01:32] <_stink_> gotcha
[01:32] <_stink_> was just going to drop in and bug you :)
[01:32] <rick_h_> so started one
[01:32] <rick_h_> just to test you see it
[01:32] <_stink_> about time for kid's bed now :P
[01:33] <_stink_> yep
[01:33] <rick_h_> ok cool
[01:33] <_stink_> gah
[01:33] <_stink_> stupid plugin install
[01:33] <_stink_> some other time :)
[01:33] <rick_h_> yea
[01:33] <_stink_> rick_h_: you still away?
[01:34] <rick_h_> not yet
[01:34] <rick_h_> trying to finish this glass of wine first :)
[01:35] <_stink_> rick_h_: er, i meant out of town
[01:35] <rick_h_> oh, no. back in town
[01:35] <_stink_> unless that's what you meant too :)
[01:35] <rick_h_> no, thought you were asking if I was afk yet
[01:36] <_stink_> yeah, i am good at being ambiguous.
[01:36] <rick_h_> got back this weekend, so back to normal for dec
[01:36] <_stink_> rick_h_: is it nice to reclaim your full working from home schedule?
[01:36] <rick_h_> meh, it's mixed
[01:37] <rick_h_> I liked the balanced schedule
[01:37] <rick_h_> but it's nice not to have to commute/run the dog to puppy day care on Tues/etc
[01:37] <_stink_> yeah
[01:37] <_stink_> http://theoatmeal.com/comics/working_home
[01:37] <_stink_> you've probably seen that
[01:37] <rick_h_> yea, good stuff
[02:04] <jrwren> i don't know if i should feel happy, or dirty. i wrote a objc on linux today.
[02:10] <rick_h_> jrwren: I vote dirty
[02:19] <snap-l> I'm doing a presentation for MUG on a brief history of UNIX
[02:19] <jrwren> how brief?
[02:19] <snap-l> jrwren: Definitely dirty
[02:19] <snap-l> 40 minutes
[02:19] <snap-l> going to do some show and tell.
[02:19] <jrwren> wow, a real snoozer. :p
[02:20] <jrwren> objc is nice once you get passed the craziness of it.
[02:20] <snap-l> jrwren: I'll make it entertaining and worth your while
[03:02] <dzho> snap-l: http://crackmonkey.org/unix.html
[04:08] <snap-l> dzho: Thank you. That's jst the sort of thing that I'm looking for
[12:36] <rick_h_> morning party people
[12:37] <brousch> you're chipper
[12:37] <rick_h_> couple of good nights sleep in my own bed has me in better spirits
[12:38] <brousch> it can do that
[12:54] <mydogsname1srudy> morning to ya
[12:55] <brousch> mydogsname1srudy: how often do you eat pasties?
[13:02] <mydogsname1srudy> ah not much ;) dont care for them  , but i do like venison
[13:03] <brousch> that's disappointing
[13:03] <mydogsname1srudy> ah they are a bit dry need to have more juice in them ;)
[13:04] <brousch> add gravy!
[13:04] <jjesse> everything is better w/ gravy :)
[13:04] <mydogsname1srudy> ya that works but i like gravy on frys
[13:05] <brousch> ew
[13:05] <mydogsname1srudy> what ?
[13:06] <brousch> fries need salt, pepper, and vinegar, not gravy
[13:06] <mydogsname1srudy> heh its a yooper thing i guess
[13:06] <rick_h_> psh, they need A1 mixed with ketchup
[13:07] <mydogsname1srudy> lol
[13:07] <brousch> arby's sauce and horsey sauce are also acceptable
[13:07] <rick_h_> arby's is evil, the only reason I stop there is that I need to hit up some arby's sauce
[13:08] <brousch> i'm addicted to horsey
[13:08] <rick_h_> though I think the only reason I get qdoba is because I want to use my tenessee sunshine
[13:08] <rick_h_> ugh, never liked horsey crap
[13:08] <mydogsname1srudy> hotbeaf with frys and gravy
[13:08] <brousch> what's hotbeef?
[13:08] <mydogsname1srudy> yep
[13:08] <brousch> what's tenessee sunshine?
[13:09] <brousch> what's taters, precious? what's taters?
[13:09] <rick_h_> http://www.redbagcollection.com/tennesseesunshine.html
[13:09] <mydogsname1srudy> what's monkeyjuice
[13:09] <rick_h_> the best taco sauce out there
[13:09] <rick_h_> tonight is taco night, just so I can use the sauce
[13:09] <rick_h_> can't find it in stores around here, so every new year I order a box
[13:09] <mydogsname1srudy> tonite is tater soup nite
[13:10] <brousch> ah, i use tapatio
[13:10] <rick_h_> brousch: remind me next event, I'll bring you a bottle :)
[13:10] <brousch> better than cholula
[13:11] <brousch> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn4aHkOS2Q0
[13:12] <rick_h_> it's too early in the morning for that stuff
[13:13] <brousch> we go to qdoba for the queso
[13:13] <brousch> this is the biggest reason that chipotle sucks
[13:34] <Wolfger> morning
[13:36] <Wolfger> Heh... Old news, but Slackware release version 13.37
[13:36] <Wolfger> that right there makes me want to install it
[13:48] <snap-l> Good morning
[15:20] <Wolfger> wow. snap-l knows how to stun a room into silence... ;-)
[15:20] <snap-l> yep
[15:21] <_stink_> no one challenged rick_h_ on his assertion that Arby's is evil?
[15:21] <_stink_> expensive, sure
[15:21] <jrwren> Arby's Roast Beef Sandwitch Is Delicious
[15:22] <_stink_> jrwren++
[15:22] <jrwren> I miss their old signs.
[15:22] <brousch> beef-n-cheddar slathered with horsey sauce nomnom
[15:23] <jrwren> and I still love it when I see an old store with an old sign.
[15:23] <_stink_> haha
[15:23] <jrwren> even more so if it is dark and the lights are on but some bulbs are missing.
[15:23] <_stink_> A  y s
[15:25] <The_Machine> "I'm so hungry, I could eat at Arby's!"  ~Marge Simpson
[15:28] <snap-l> The only reason anyone loves Arbys is because of the Horsy Sauce
[15:29] <snap-l> seriously, that stuff is like crack
[15:29]  * snap-l has a bunch in his fridge.
[15:30] <_stink_> hah
[15:30] <_stink_> do you acquire it legally?
[15:30] <snap-l> Yes
[15:34] <brousch> you didn't hijack a truck?
[15:34] <snap-l> Not yet.
[15:34] <snap-l> But I ear the first hits are free
[15:35] <_stink_> i was thinking the dash-in-fill-up-some-teeny-paper-cups-then-run method
[15:35] <brousch> that doesn't sound sanitary
[15:42] <Wolfger> _stink_: challenging rick_h_ is problematic, even when he's horribly wrong, as he is in his assertion of Arby's
[15:47] <_stink_> well, i'm glad that rick_h_ is on his own here.
[15:48] <rick_h_> more for the rest of you :P
[15:56] <brousch> digikam, i love you. i am deleting 8000 photos from my 64,000 which are just face crops generated by iphoto
[15:57] <rick_h_> are they not named in some common way you could just find | rm
[15:58] <brousch> it turns out they are
[15:58] <brousch> but i didn't notice because they are all mixed in with the other 64,000 photos
[15:58] <brousch> digikam's advanced search and filter let me figure that out
[15:58] <snap-l> brousch: NIce.
[16:00] <Wolfger> digikam and k3b are two reasons KDE rules
[16:00] <brousch> another nice thing is i have my droid and nook autoupload photos to specific folders via ubuntuone. digikam can then include those folders without moving the photos
[16:00] <ColonelPanic001> <3 KDE
[16:01] <brousch> dolphin is much faster than nautilus for the same sftp connections
[16:02] <brousch> digikam is using an assload of ram, but that's probably because i have so many damn photos
[16:03] <brousch> using 1.5G right now
[16:12] <rick_h_> psh, that's a kneeload, it's got a ways to go before a##load :P
[16:12] <brousch> when i start with 4G, 1.5G is an assload
[16:13] <rick_h_> oh, well you didn't say you were running a "little person" in your ram levels
[16:14] <brousch> :P
[16:14] <brousch> i could switch to the macbook pro for 8GB
[16:15] <snap-l> brousch: What are you using? A laptop?
[16:15] <brousch> always
[16:15] <snap-l> brousch: that's your problem right there.
[16:15] <snap-l> You need a nice, reliable desktop machine. :)
[16:15] <brousch> desktops are dead
[16:15] <snap-l> portability be damned.
[16:15] <jrwren>  "I'm so hungry, I could eat at Arby's!"  ~Marge Simpson
[16:15] <jrwren>  "I'm so hungry, I could eat at Arby's!"  ~Marge Simpson
[16:15] <jrwren> IIRC that wasn't marge.
[16:15] <brousch> next step will be cloud server and tablet
[16:15] <jrwren> it was one of the next door neighbor kids.
[16:16] <jrwren> and the next door neighbor mom says "Wow, she really is hungry"
[16:16] <jrwren> but I might recall wrong.
[16:16] <brousch> there are no girls living next door to the simpsons
[16:16] <jrwren> yes, but those boys sound like girls and look like girls and act girlie.
[16:17] <jrwren> try fspot instead of digikam and note the ram usage.
[16:18] <brousch> http://www.chefsuccess.com/f18/favorite-simpsons-quotes-honor-movie-23468/
[16:18] <snap-l> fspot is a dog
[16:18] <brousch> fspot failed to index my 64,000 photos without repeated crashes
[16:18] <snap-l> Happier with shotwell for my needs.
[16:18] <snap-l> brousch: ++
[16:19] <brousch> shotwell worked, but doesn't have all these nifty features i need to prune my library
[16:19] <snap-l> F-spot may have contribued to me taking less photos
[16:21] <brousch> i liked fspot a few years ago
[16:27] <snap-l> Yeah, F-Spot isn't horrd, but it's has some definite stability issues.
[16:42] <Wolfger> No. No, F-Spot is horrid. You're wrong.
[17:05] <greg-g> I'm trying to decide if I stay with shotwell or go back to f-spot
[17:05] <greg-g> got the new DSLR so I think I care about features now
[17:06] <greg-g> at least, I'm supposed to, right?
[17:07] <Wolfger> It's not good enough to be able to -1 a post on p.se... I want the ability to administer a slap to the face of the poster.
[17:08] <rick_h_> greg-g: you're supposed to be getting a mac now and a license of lightroom
[17:08] <Wolfger> Nautilus and GIMP is all you need :-p
[17:09] <Wolfger> or, you know, digikam. :-D
[17:09] <snap-l> Love reading the Perl hate in the SQLAlchemy channel
[17:10] <rick_h_> heh, well we are python folks :)
[17:10] <snap-l> One gu is bitching about the mess the CPAN has become
[17:10] <dzho> has become?
[17:10] <snap-l> Which, I agree, but seriously, CPAN is old. :)
[17:10] <rick_h_> is there a new package tool in perl everyone is using?
[17:11] <dzho> sagi ;-)
[17:12] <greg-g> rick_h_: oh right, I forgot :/
[17:12] <rick_h_> greg-g: keep working on it, you're out west now, surely the hipster will start to seep in soon
[17:13] <rick_h_> greg-g: repeat after me "I could never use that functionally superiour thinkpad...it's...so...ugly? And no giant glass trackpad"
[17:14] <rick_h_> oops, superior damn I ruined the effect
[17:17] <greg-g> rick_h_: my mind automagically fixed the typo/spelling mistake :)
[17:17] <greg-g> rick_h_: and my lord, being out here is making my anti-hipster tendencies to be amplified, not nullified
[17:18] <rick_h_> greg-g: heh, rebel against the new norm?
[17:18] <greg-g> actually, hah, I think I am
[17:18] <greg-g> in A2 I had my Chrome bag, rode a fixie, had my bike lock in my back pocket, drank PBR
[17:18] <_stink_> now?
[17:18] <greg-g> here, I using paniers and drinking better beer
[17:19] <greg-g> oh, and a geared bike
[17:19] <rick_h_> heh, ok because I've not understood the fixies
[17:19] <_stink_> :O
[17:19] <rick_h_> so at least that makes more sense to me
[17:20] <greg-g> hehe, I still like the idea of fixies, but man, my commute from home to caltrain and back is hilly, I like the extra gears
[17:20] <rick_h_> yea, exactly
[17:20] <greg-g> (simplicity, more like driving a manual vs automatic)
[17:20] <rick_h_> they're there for a reason
[17:20] <greg-g> (that paren up there was me listing things I like about fixies, if not obvious)
[17:31] <Wolfger> fixies are for stunts
[17:31] <snap-l> I rode a fixie
[17:31] <snap-l> then my dad said I was too big for that bike. :)
[17:31] <Wolfger> you can get a single-gear bike that isn't a fixie, but multiple gears are nice
[17:32] <snap-l> Do they all brake when you pedal backward? :)
[17:32] <Wolfger> uh, no
[17:32] <Wolfger> with a fixie, if you pedal backward you go backward
[17:33] <snap-l> See, that makes sense. :)
[17:33] <Wolfger> about as much sense as pedaling backwards does...
[17:34] <Wolfger> I've seen some really awesome stunt riding with fixies. Can't imagine anybody wanting one for transportation though.
[17:37] <greg-g> I've never seen a kid ride a fixie, I seen kids ride coaster brake bikes
[17:37] <snap-l> er, yeah. :)
[17:49] <Wolfger> single-gear != fixie, although fixies are single-gear
[17:50]  * greg-g nods
[17:50] <greg-g> like a rectangle and square
[18:08] <brousch> greg-g: try digikam. you can use it in gnome
[18:08] <brousch> many more features compared to gnome or shotwell
[18:08] <brousch> fspot
[18:41] <snap-l> Figured out why fail2ban wasn't kocking this chucklefuck off my system's sshd
[18:42] <snap-l> but added a iptables rule to just kick it off until next reboot
[18:47] <brousch> https://market.android.com/details?id=apps_timed_promotion
[18:47] <snap-l> Nice
[18:47] <snap-l> Too bad the B&N nook store doesn't participate. :)
[18:48] <brousch> d00d. install CM7
[18:48] <brousch> do not live in the sad little B&N app store
[18:53] <rick_h_> is the nook its own app store like the amazon one?
[18:53] <rick_h_> I didn't realize that I guess
[18:53] <snap-l> Yes
[18:53] <snap-l> and it's pretty limited
[18:53]  * snap-l will bring it to CHC this Wed.
[18:54] <rick_h_> hmm, so do people submit their apps like they do amazon?
[18:54] <snap-l> not sure how it works.
[18:54] <rick_h_> I've just not run into anyone with "I'm submitting my app to the google market, amazon app store, B&N empty shelves"
[18:56] <brousch> rick_h_: yeah
[18:56] <brousch> but has like 100 apps
[22:26] <greg-g> http://blog.pinboard.in/2011/12/don_t_be_a_free_user/ Discuss
[22:44] <snap-l> Burning cash is not just the domain of free apps, lots of paid apps burn cash just as easily
[22:45] <snap-l> Also, one life-changing event can put you completely out of business (like, oh, I don't know, your server evaporating in an FBI raid)
[22:47] <snap-l> so, while I agree that if you love it, pay for it, that's not enough to keep stupid business decisions afloat.
[22:48] <snap-l> YMMV
[22:48] <snap-l> greg-g: ^^
[22:48] <greg-g> snap-l: good start, anyone else?
[22:48] <greg-g> ;)
[22:49] <greg-g> j/k
[22:49] <greg-g> so, yeah, I agree, pay for the things you like is a good mantra, just be careful about the things you like, I guess
[22:49] <snap-l> Well, don't think that it's some magic ward against service-evaporation
[22:50] <snap-l> Sandy was a good example. IIRC, people were willing to pay for it, but the company got bought out, and the service was discontinued.
[22:52] <greg-g> I didn't know about Sandy, interesting
[22:52] <snap-l> I was a user
[22:52] <greg-g> yeah, so, right, just because your for-pay doesn't mean you won't be bought out and discontinued
[22:52] <greg-g> s/your/you're/
[22:52] <snap-l> Exactly
[22:52] <snap-l> Isn't that what happened to Gowalla?
[22:52]  * greg-g shrugs
[22:53] <greg-g> does gowalla no longer work?
[22:54] <snap-l> http://www.salon.com/2011/12/05/facebook_hires_gowalla_team_will_shut_it_down/