[01:36] <Resistance> ugh
[01:36] <Resistance> anyone here able to help me figure out how to get my blog into planet.ubuntu.com?
[01:36] <Resistance> its a wordpress blog
[01:37] <rmg51> that sounds like a pleia2 thing :-D
[01:37] <Resistance> indeed
[01:38] <Resistance> but pleia2 is in the channel (hopefully)
[01:39] <MutantTurkey> yeah where is pleia when you need her social skills!
[01:39] <Resistance> :P
[01:39] <rmg51> afk at the moment
[01:39] <Resistance> well i poked the MOTUs just in case they know
[01:57] <Resistance> anyone know where pleia2 is?
[01:58] <Resistance> or should we assume she's missing
[01:58] <Resistance> for unknown reasons
[03:07] <pleia2> Resistance: instructions are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu#Adding_Your_Blog
[03:10] <Resistance> pleia2:  yes, i'm aware
[03:10] <Resistance> i had other questions that were...
[03:11] <Resistance> confusing...
[03:11]  * Resistance basically had to gut his PHP config to fix a memory allocation issue, as well as fixing the permalink formatting, among other stuff
[03:11] <Resistance> pleia2:  finally got around to actually putting it into the thing's config though
[03:12] <Resistance> (although i noticed the user entry before mine had a syntax fail, but i didnt fix it)
[03:12] <Resistance> (specifically, fae = <something>.png)
[03:12] <Resistance> instead of face =
[03:12] <pleia2> I'm about to run out the door, did you have a specific question?
[03:13] <Resistance> nope, figured it out
[03:14] <pleia2> ok :)
[03:56] <Resistance> hmm
[03:56] <Resistance> pleia2:  when you get back, got a question for ya, because the feed is 408-ing on planet.u.c
[04:15] <Resistance> s/the feed/my feed/
[04:29] <pleia2> Resistance: what feed are you using?
[04:29] <Resistance> pleia2:  https://blog.trekweb.org/categories/ubuntu/feed/
[04:29] <Resistance> (its an SSL'd blog)
[04:31] <Resistance> (its entirely possible i did not paste it correctly into the ubuntu-planet config, but that's semi unlikely)
[04:32] <Resistance> while i have you, is there a way to combine sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install <package> into one command?
[04:32]  * Resistance is writing a tutorial for installing nginx stable onto Ubuntu and then configure it for PHP
[04:32] <pleia2> apt-get update && apt-get install package
[04:32] <Resistance> prepending with sudo in the beginning?
[04:32] <pleia2> I don't know why it's not working, sorry :(
[04:32] <pleia2> maybe planet doesn't support https?
[04:32] <Resistance> might not, but who would i poke about that?
[04:33] <Resistance> (if i have to, i'll de-https the thing, but meh)
[04:33] <pleia2> you could submit a ticket: rt@ubuntu.com
[04:33] <pleia2> that goes to canonical IS, who manages the tech side of it
[04:34] <Resistance> i'll send them a ticket after this post... (tis a LONG one with lots of <pre> tags and in-line <span>s
[04:34] <Resistance> )
[04:47] <jthan> anyone have any ccie study guides?
[04:48] <jthan> I'm taking a test on cyber security late this week to enter a contest for a scholarship..
[05:50] <Resistance> if anyone wouldnt mind reading over my HOW-TOs i just wrote for setting up nginx on Ubuntu, i'd appreciate your insights/input/opinions.  https://blog.trekweb.org/categories/ubuntu/nginx/
[05:54] <Resistance> pleia2:  i just submitted the ticket :p
[05:55] <andrew> Morning
[05:55] <Resistance> good morning to thee :)
[05:55] <andrew> ( pleia2: evening )
[05:56] <Resistance> well, my blog is up and running...
[05:56] <Resistance> and theoretically is in the planet.ubuntu.com config
[05:56] <Resistance> but...
[05:57] <Resistance> it doesnt get aggregated... ends up with 408 timeouts :/
[05:58] <Resistance> anyways, bleh
[09:53] <JonathanD> Good morning.
[10:09] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[10:19] <JonathanD> hey rmg51
[10:21] <rmg51> o/
[13:04] <teddy-dbear> morning
[13:19] <anduril> morning
[13:50] <JonathanD> morning
[14:08] <andrew> Is there a way to disable LibreOffice (or OpenOffice) from trying to recover a document?
[14:18] <InHisName> del filename.doc
[14:22] <andrew> I'm looking for a solution that is perminint
[14:24] <andrew> Since the workflow is to essentially force close libreoffice when it's no longer needed (no changes are made to the document the whole time it's open)
[14:47] <rmg51> andrew: look under options load/save
[14:48] <rmg51> there is an auto recovery option to save every so many minutes
[18:09] <pleia2> jedijf: I'll need to pick your brain about NTR and Mt Airy Learning Tree in the near future
[18:09] <pleia2> maybe find kevin too
[18:54] <jedijf> you get invited and my brain gets picked
[18:55] <jedijf> pleia2: ^^^^ :)
[18:57] <pleia2> :D
[18:57] <jedijf> pleia2: here it is in a nutshell - the masses want free windows, as soon as that isn't the case, they go back. If you can prevent that, the next thing to keep them is steady and consistent support(live), or they revert to that cousin who knows computers...
[18:58] <pleia2> "go back"?
[18:58] <jthan> to windows
[18:58] <jthan> the real one
[18:58] <jedijf> to other os'
[18:58] <jedijf> yes
[18:59] <pleia2> but windows collapses into a pile of goo if you don't maintain it too
[18:59] <jthan> but it's familiar goo
[18:59] <jedijf> today the 1st step iseasier to accomplish with working java and flash, the support is vital though
[18:59] <jthan> or they ignore its consistency and use it at a snail's pace
[19:00] <pleia2> jthan: doesn't matter, I've seen windows labs with half dead windows machines because they aren't maintained (it's how we got into one school, their windows lab is useless so the teachers ask us for ubuntu in classrooms)
[19:00] <Resistance> pleia2:  everything collapses into a pile of fubarish goo
[19:00] <Resistance> :P
[19:00] <Resistance> eventually
[19:00] <pleia2> jedijf: noted
[19:00] <Resistance> pleia2:  also, the IS people at canonical received the ticket regarding planet.u.c and transferred it to the 'vanguard' according to the email
[19:00] <jthan> pleia2: I have seen the same in my very own school. I just like to play devils advocate.
[19:01] <pleia2> everything is web-based now, so we've had to bump up the ram in systems we support at partimus, nothing under 1G these days
[19:01] <pleia2> Resistance: that means they're paying attention to it and it should be looked at within the next few days
[19:01] <Resistance> yep
[19:01] <Resistance> 'tis what the email said :P
[19:01] <pleia2> ok, I thought you were asking :)
[19:02] <Resistance> nope, just stating your idea was a good one :)
[19:02] <pleia2> jedijf: there wasn't a lab at NTR, that was just laptop recycling, right? MALT was the only lab
[19:04] <pleia2> and how long did MALT last? Why did it end?
[19:05] <rmg51> MALT still is
[19:06] <pleia2> I meant the lab :)
[19:06] <Resistance> wtfh
[19:07] <Resistance> the lp librarian exploded
[19:07] <rmg51> lack of interest would be a good guess
[19:07] <Resistance> now i cant attempt my Precise -> Oneiric -> Natty backport of php 5.3.8
[19:07] <Resistance> :/
[19:08] <pleia2> rmg51: on whose side, volunteers or the MALT folks?
[19:08] <pleia2> (I am writing a talk about deployments in community centers and schools, not just asking for fun)
[19:09] <rmg51> volunteers
[19:09]  * pleia2 nods
[19:09] <rmg51> mostly the leader
[19:09] <pleia2> it's a lot of work and not much reward
[19:10] <rmg51> we worked with the computer volunteers group
[19:10] <pleia2> they lost interest?
[19:10] <rmg51> leader did
[19:10] <pleia2> gotcha
[19:11] <rmg51> life got in the way
[19:11] <pleia2> so on the ground support and strong allies within the organization are vital
[19:11] <pleia2> (same is true for Partimus out here)
[19:12] <rmg51> you need good leadership to keep it going
[19:13] <pleia2> to keep things organized, make sure things get done, have goals? or ...?
[19:14] <rmg51> just to keep it ging
[19:14] <rmg51> if no one leads no one will follow
[19:14] <pleia2> ok
[19:14] <pleia2> thanks :)
[19:14] <rmg51> it all just falls apart
[19:14]  * pleia2 nods
[19:15] <pleia2> how about on the technology side, LTSP work out well?
[19:15] <rmg51> yep
[19:15] <rmg51> we were there only one day each month
[19:16] <Resistance> oooooh ... pleia2 did you know they suspended the lp publishers, and thats put the ubuntu archives and what not on hold?
[19:16]  * Resistance wasnt aware of this ujntil about 20 minutes ago
[19:16] <rmg51> but it worked when they needed it
[19:18] <JonathanD> Victory!
[19:36] <Adom|office> hot pockets = nerd fuel
[19:37] <Adom|office> i could eat hot pockets for lunch forever
[19:38] <pleia2> Resistance: I do all my dev work on the Debian side, don't pay much attention to lp ubuntu dev stuff
[19:38] <pleia2> so no, I didn't know that :)
[19:39] <Resistance> :P
[19:39] <Resistance> pleia2:  its lousing me up
[19:39] <Resistance> i need to test-build php5-5.3.8 from precise -> natty
[19:39] <Resistance> and my pbuilder environments are failing
[19:39] <Resistance> (because they're evil, old, and crupted
[19:53] <jedijf> pleia2: rmg51 i think the biggest killer was the move, they lost their core
[19:54] <rmg51> Greg lost interest
[19:55] <rmg51> he never pushed to get a room setup
[19:56] <pleia2> jedijf: old core couldn't make it to new location, or didn't have inspiration to re-setup the lab, or something else?
[19:56] <jedijf> pleia2: more of the first
[19:56]  * pleia2 nods
[19:57] <jedijf> and felt like they lost the mt airy part....
[19:57] <jedijf> i remember some saying that specifically. It moved to a more affluent area, and i guess they felt disenfranchised
[19:58] <pleia2> ah, yeah
[19:59] <jedijf> ntr is worth revisiting. we were 4 years too early. now they caught on
[20:00] <jedijf> now that they are selling xubu boxes
[20:00] <pleia2> sweet
[20:00] <pleia2> I have xubuntu stickers!
[20:00] <pleia2> hehe
[20:01] <Resistance> meh i need a kde sticker :p
[20:01] <MutantTurkey> pfft
[20:01] <MutantTurkey> xubuntu will always be my favorite :-)
[20:01] <MutantTurkey> though I am itching to try out ubuntu studio (does that still exist?
[20:02] <pleia2> it still exists, and uses Xfce now
[20:02] <pleia2> 11.10 release was a bit rough (first one with Xfce), but they're looking at a good 12.04 release
[20:03] <jedijf> pleia2: the support is vital too, like you do with partimus; have to keep touching base. I guess the ultimate would be gurus within, but that's hard to get
[20:03] <pleia2> jedijf: *nod*
[20:03] <pleia2> we have one school with an on-site guru, he's awesome, but rare
[20:03] <MutantTurkey> I don't know how well Unity fits into the recording environment
[20:04] <jedijf> real-time unity
[20:04] <MutantTurkey> Unity is developed in Qt right?
[20:04] <MutantTurkey> I wish the methods it used for certain intergration were more or less a freedesktop standard. I'd be nice if other environments could benifit from some of those things
[20:05] <MutantTurkey> I think canonical pushs things to quickly sometimes - like how they've already commited to Wayland and started using Unity well before it's prime time, turning away certain users
[21:44] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: got a job at the hamburger suit place now, working the register
[21:44] <EvilResistance> pleia2:  still alive?
[21:47] <ssweeny> she's doing science and she's still alive!
[21:48] <EvilResistance> you're strange :p
[22:03] <MutantTurkey> ssweeny: I've been meaning to learn that son
[22:04] <MutantTurkey> Jonathan Coulton is really a awsome guy
[22:04] <ssweeny> he really is
[22:05] <MutantTurkey> I love his tracks
[22:05] <MutantTurkey> they are really good and cheesebally
[22:07] <ssweeny> yeah
[22:07] <ssweeny> his new album is pretty awesome
[22:07] <ssweeny> it was produced by one of the johns in They Might Be Giants
[22:07] <ssweeny> the outspoken one
[22:08] <pleia2> EvilResistance: am at work, so just slow to respond
[22:08] <EvilResistance> ah then i'll leave ya be
[22:24] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: i was there yesterday, hate the new layout
[22:24] <MutantTurkey> ?
[22:24] <MutantTurkey> layout?
[22:24] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: did you mean mcd's?
[22:24] <MutantTurkey> no
[22:24] <MutantTurkey> which McD's is that?
[22:24] <jedijf> york rd
[22:24] <MutantTurkey> oh the new one in the grove? yeah the parking lot sucks
[22:24] <MutantTurkey> but is not nasty anymore
[22:24] <MutantTurkey> I mean it was gross before
[22:24] <jedijf> ring around the drive thru
[22:25] <MutantTurkey> no handle on the bathroom door. just a whole...
[22:25] <MutantTurkey> hole'
[22:25] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: didn't I tell you about my hamburger suit job?
[22:25] <MutantTurkey> up by thunderbird lanes?
[22:25] <jedijf> oh shit, that's you
[22:25]  * jedijf deposits in change jar
[22:26] <jedijf> flori's or something
[22:26] <MutantTurkey> yes that's me!
[22:26] <MutantTurkey> got a job workin the counter there
[22:26] <pleia2> in a hamburger suit?
[22:27] <EvilResistance> makes perfect sense :P
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[22:27] <MutantTurkey> no no no, they first hired me for that, now I am working counter
[22:27] <MutantTurkey> either way
[22:27] <pleia2> turkey burger
[22:27] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: you must not interview well :)
[22:28] <MutantTurkey> http://twitpic.com/7kx0xq
[22:28] <jedijf> either that, or all new hires get the 'suit'
[22:28] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: no they only needed me for that
[22:28] <MutantTurkey> their one employee is moving though
[22:28] <MutantTurkey> so they needed someone to takeover
[22:37] <jedijf> philly pug holiday party at nat mechanics <---biters
[22:38] <jedijf> who's next phl.pm?
[22:38] <pleia2> hehe
[22:44] <MutantTurkey> so whaddya think about the 76ers vote?
[22:47] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: who won
[22:47] <MutantTurkey> no idea
[22:47] <jedijf> hahah napathy wins
[22:47] <jedijf> apathy
[22:49] <MutantTurkey> hopefully not B Frankling Dogg
[23:15] <waltman> 76ers vote?
[23:16] <waltman> Oh, the mascots?
[23:17] <waltman> Big Ben, obviously.
[23:18] <waltman> philly pug? what's the p stand for?
[23:19] <waltman> oh, the pythonistas?
[23:21] <jedijf> waltman: yep
[23:22] <jedijf> ben, dog, or moose....seems like ben should be a lock