[00:00] <wizonesolutions> ActionParsnip: We're both talking about ntfs-3g yeah? Just to confirm. Also, does NTFS-3G treat internal partitions different than external hard drives? I've got a couple externals that are mounting fine on another box, and actually other internal partitions too...dunno what's...different about this one!
[00:00] <kanhiya> I found that Ubuntu 11.10 is just a crap of mind
[00:00] <kanhiya> waste time in finding solutions of bugs
[00:00] <kanhiya> So manu bugs
[00:00] <kanhiya> many
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> wizonesolutions: the location of the partition is moot, as long as it is seen correctly by the kernel, all access is abstracted by the kernel.
[00:01] <wizonesolutions> ActionParsnip: Anyway, no luck with those options either. I put them in exactly as you wrote them.
[00:01] <kanhiya> Waiting for LTS and will be last linux Distro , i will try otherwise will switch to Windows
[00:01] <wizonesolutions> ActionParsnip: Good to know. Probably diff NTFS-3G versions then is what's throwing me off
[00:01] <tjkent> wizonesolutions: what is your problem now?
[00:02] <wizonesolutions> ActionParsnip: All I needed on my home server was uid=<username>,gid=<groupname> and I was golden. But that doesn't seem to be enough here.
[00:02] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: Trying to get write access as my normal user to an NTFS partition.
[00:02] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: AKA, trying to mount it as such.
[00:02] <wizonesolutions> s/as/with
[00:02] <tjkent> you can't mount it at all?
[00:03] <tjkent> when you try to mount it does it say that it is busy or can you not even see it?
[00:03] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: I mount it, but it basically ignores anything I specify about permissoins.
[00:03] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: Mounting works. But the permissions are not as I want.
[00:04] <tjkent> I am assuming that you are dual booting?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> wizonesolutions: try changing ntfs-3g to auto
[00:04] <KFP> Hi there.  I just upgraded my graphics card, but I can't seem to get it to work properly.
[00:05] <wizonesolutions> ActionParsnip: You mean for the filesystem basically?
[00:05] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: Yep, dual-booting.
[00:05] <tjkent> what is wrong with the permissions are you not able to write anything to it?
[00:05] <agentgasmask> ActionParsnip: No, I'll have to do that. I thought there might be 3rd party raid tools that would work with it.
[00:06] <netninja> wizonesolutions: not to be smart, I'm joining the convo in the middle, but did you just try "sudo mount /dev/<whatever> /<mountpoint>"?  Doesn't that default to auto?
[00:06] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: File/directory ownership. Users is owned by root/root, so I can't cd in or see anything.
[00:06] <macPawns> can anyone help me get my touchpad recognized
[00:06] <macPawns> 11.04 i386 fresh install
[00:06] <marabi2> hello  netninja sup
[00:06] <KFP> My old graphics card was an Nvidia GF 8500GT and the new one is an Nvidia GTX550 Ti.  When I try to use the Nvidia proprietary drivers, the computer refuses to start X, saying "kernel module NVIDIA not found".
[00:06] <netninja> sup
[00:06] <tjkent> well I got one way that you can do it, but I don't use ntfs-3g
[00:06] <tjkent> and I am able to do everything
[00:07] <tjkent> also it mounts when it boots
[00:07] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: If it's safe...then I don't really care if it's ntfs-3g or not.
[00:07] <wizonesolutions> netninja: pretty sure that won't do it but humoring you, one sec.
[00:07] <netninja> sorry :/
[00:07] <tjkent> yea it is safe
[00:08] <netninja> just brainstorming
[00:08] <wizonesolutions> netninja: No prob, appreciate it. It didn't work :(
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> KFP: did you remove the driver before switching the hardware
[00:08] <aikInsaan|home> hi
[00:08] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: OK so shoot
[00:08] <tjkent> pm'd it to you
[00:08] <aikInsaan|home> how does one get to the Ubuntu GUI from bash shell?
[00:09] <wizonesolutions> ActionParsnip: Changing to auto wouldn't do it since netninja's suggestion didn't work.
[00:09] <tjkent> I wrote the whole thing for my school so I know that it works
[00:09] <netninja> aikInsaan: "startx"?
[00:09] <KFP> ActionParsnip:  Uh, I removed it afterwards.   ._.       Then reinstalled.
[00:09] <tjkent> wizonesolutions: did you get it?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> KFP: did you reboot so that you were using the open driver for a spell?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> KFP: you may want to add the xorg edgers updates ppa (not the xorg edgers itself) and instal the 285 driver
[00:11] <marabi2> hi ring2 sup
[00:12] <kevin_> hi all. any way i can default /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and ip_dynaddr to "1"? or do i have to just set it to 1 always in an init.d script
[00:12] <KFP> ActionParsnip: I think I'm using the open driver now (I deleted xorg.conf after X refused to start. Now I'm in X but not using the Nvidia driver.)
[00:12] <Kimble> Hi.  I'm trying to grant write permissions to a CIFS share to a user.  The share is mounted thusly in fstab: user=transmission%,noatime,nodiratime,rw,noexec,_netdev,sync. Transmission is the user I want to be able to write to the share. But it keeps getting a permission denied error. Ideas?
[00:12] <netninja> wizonesolutions: try mounting with these options: "rw,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000"
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> KFP: does:  sudo lshw -C display | grep driver    show: driver=nouveau
[00:13] <crazytrane> kevin_, i believe /etc/sysctl.conf is where you should look
[00:13] <netninja> wizonesolutions: remembering to mount with 3g ntfs
[00:14] <crazytrane> just add "net.ipv4.ip_forward=1"
[00:14] <crazytrane> might even be there already
[00:15] <wizonesolutions> netninja: Just tried similar with normal ntfs, will try with ntfs-3g (cc tjkent)
[00:15] <wizonesolutions> This is totally funky :D
[00:16] <wizonesolutions> oh yeah, one thing to revise from my original statement because I guess NTFS-3G has moved on from what I knew. xattrs and POSIX ACLs *are* enabled
[00:16] <wizonesolutions> it's by default, it seems
[00:16] <netninja> wizonesolutions: yeah, when I mount my Win8 partition from unity, it mounts this way automatically
[00:16] <wizonesolutions> but that may be interfering somehow
[00:16] <KFP> ActionParsnip: It doesn't show anything at all. :\      (well, it shows "sysfs (PCI)" for a bit but that disappears after a couple of seconds.
[00:16] <kevin_> crazytrane: great. thanks a lot
[00:16] <KFP> Er, "PCI (sysfs)".
[00:17] <crazytrane> no prob
[00:17] <aikInsaan|home> how does one get to the Ubuntu GUI from bash shell?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> KFP: ok then try:  sudo lshw -C display
[00:17] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: You mentioned rebooting in PM, I just don't understand why I can't umount and then mount -a. What cached data or whatever is getting reinitialized upon reboot? Doesn't it just read from /etc/fstab like mount -a does?
[00:17] <netninja> aikInsaan: startx
[00:18] <KFP> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/8VpZbtyW
[00:18] <aikInsaan|home> how does one get to the Ubuntu GUI from bash shell?
[00:18] <tjkent> wizonesolutions: fstab is read when your system boots
[00:18] <wizonesolutions> netninja: No luck on those options either :/
[00:19] <netninja> wizonesolutions: wow.  tjkent is right: are you adding this in fstab and then "mount -a"?
[00:19] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: Yeah mount -a and normal mount commands also check it if for example I type "mount /mnt/windows" <--- my mount point
[00:19] <tjkent> aikInsaan|home: startx
[00:19] <JetJaguarXP> aikInsaan|home  The Ubuntu GUI should launch automatically
[00:19] <wizonesolutions> netninja: Yeah, I umount first
[00:19] <aikInsaan|home> tjkent: that doest work
[00:19] <tjkent> aikInsaan|home: what is the error
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> KFP: looks good, add the repo and install nvidia-current to get the 295 driver
[00:20] <wizonesolutions> netninja: And it *does* get mounted again, so it's responding somehow. I don't see how it could only be half-responding, hence my question about what is different about rebooting if both methods are reading the same file.
[00:20] <MaynardJKeenan> hi
[00:20] <bobweaver> hello there I was looking aroung the net looking for top ten things to do after install ubuntu install. and Have found some cool stuff. but I guess I would like to hear from you also. Like what do you install after installing ubuntu. also I am having some troubles with my nvidia (02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200M G] [10de:0845] (rev a2))   I can not seem to get anything to record the desktop,
[00:20] <bobweaver> correctly that is. also my interneal mic will not work here is alsa for that  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=c862089cec79175cfa218c69e04a720c4460136d
[00:20] <KFP> ActionParsnip: System -> Administration -> Additional drivers  says that the Nvidia (version current) driver is in use, but when I try "Nvidia X Server Settings" it says it's currently not in use. :/
[00:21] <MaynardJKeenan> if I instal the wireless drivers of my laptop through the software center
 should this fix my wireless problems?
[00:21] <tjkent> wizonesolutions: it worked for me
[00:21] <netninja> wizonesolutions: I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but if you "sudo umount /<mountpoint>" and then edit your fstab with the options I suggested, then "sudo mount -a" that should reload your fstab... is that what you're saying doesn't work, after you put what I suggested ("rw,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000") into fstab?
[00:21] <bobweaver> Oh also I have xorgers repo and nvidia current
[00:21] <KFP> "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."     <--- But when I do that, it refuses to start X.
[00:21] <aikInsaan|home> tjkent:  it says '-bash: startx: command not found'
[00:21] <wizonesolutions> netninja: That's exactly what I've been doing, yep.
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> KFP: but did you add the repo?
[00:21] <netninja> aikInstaan: did you install the server version, or a version without GUI?
[00:22] <netninja> wizonesolutions: :(  sorry, that'd be my gamble-best-bet.  anything in logs?
[00:22] <aikInsaan|home> tjkent: installed an ubuntu image
[00:22] <tjkent> aikInsaan|home: uname -a
[00:23] <wizonesolutions> netninja: Would that be syslog?
[00:23] <OffGridOps> Having issues w/wireless on Compaq CQ57 (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1886539) got a pm to ask here.  It won't connect.  Thanx
[00:23] <netninja> aikInsaan: "an ubuntu image" -- again, did you install a server image or an image without GUI?   where did you get your image?  what does uname report?
[00:23] <tjkent> wizonesolutions: dmesg|less
[00:23] <aikInsaan|home> Linux mx.xen76.node00001.gigatux.com 2.6.32.48-0.0.0.16.2c5ec43-xen #1 SMP 2011-11-19 15:14:49 +0100 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:23] <aikInsaan|home> tjkent:  Linux mx.xen76.node00001.gigatux.com 2.6.32.48-0.0.0.16.2c5ec43-xen #1 SMP 2011-11-19 15:14:49 +0100 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:24] <tjkent> I figured
[00:24] <bobweaver> OffGridOps:  grid please open your terminal and type in: lspci -nn && lsmod && rfkill list all        then use paste.ubuntu.com to paste that to us thanks
[00:24] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: It actually was in syslog it seems...one sec
[00:24] <OffGridOps> k just a sec
[00:24] <aikInsaan|home> tjkent: what does that mean :p
[00:25] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: netninja: From log output, almost certain that the POSIX ACLs feature is burning me somehow, just not sure what options to set to disable it...or something. http://pastebin.com/bd685NFN
[00:26] <Pici> aikInsaan|home: Thats on a VPS?
[00:26] <KFP> ActionParsnip: Yup. Downloading updates now.
[00:26] <aikInsaan|home> yeah
[00:26] <aikInsaan|home> Pici: yeah that's true
[00:27] <wizonesolutions> GASP. I *do* have a UserMapping file. When did I create this!?
[00:27] <wizonesolutions> lol
[00:27]  * wizonesolutions renames
[00:28] <netninja> wizonesolutions: hah.
[00:28] <OffGridOps> pasted it
[00:28] <Pici> aikInsaan|home: You typically don't install X windows on a VPS. You could use x forwarding to run some graphical applications on the server but display them locally. What is your goal?
[00:28] <wizonesolutions> netninja: As usual, burned by software working correctly. As a programmer, I'm used to it. lol
[00:29] <netninja> aikInsaan|home: you're using a VPS/CT?  you *do* *not* want a GUI for this.
[00:29] <netninja> aikInsaan|home: I run a hosting company.  Running X on a CT is a massive resource killer.  Welcome to command line :)
[00:29] <aikInsaan|home> netninja: oh thanks
[00:29] <aikInsaan|home> netninja: my goal is to install mono
[00:29] <wizonesolutions> netninja tjkent ActionParsnip: Renaming the .NTFS-3G/UserMapping file I had but had forgotten about solved the issue. Do you guys have a karma system I can ++ you on or something?
[00:29] <OffGridOps> @bobweaver:  Paste from OffGridOps at Tue, 6 Dec 2011 04:28:02 +0000  Not sure if that's what you wanted
[00:30] <aikInsaan|home> so I can run a .net stack
[00:30] <netninja> So, back to my problem for a second... if, when I'm finished with Memtest86+, and there are no issues, what else can I do to see what's wrong with suspend (doesn't reinitialize video drivers when un-suspended), and hibernate (doesn't actually hibernate - when I switch back on, it's a fresh boot)???
[00:30] <tjkent> wizonesolutions: tjkent ubuntu forums
[00:31] <tjkent> aikInsaan|home: I am thinking that you downloaded the server disto
[00:31] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: How do I do it there?
[00:31] <Pici> tjkent: its a VPS, of course its the server release.
[00:31] <bobweaver> !paste OffGridOps
[00:32] <aikInsaan|home> Pici: I want to get mono up so I can run the .net stack and serve asp website off it
[00:32] <aikInsaan|home> do I need to go through it all via CLI?
[00:32] <tjkent> when did you guys realize it was VPS?
[00:32] <OffGridOps> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761076/
[00:32] <netninja> wizonesolutions: unfortunately, no, just pm me here, or on efnet, or blitzed, if you want to buy hosting space with root access :)
[00:32] <stinkfist> do you guys have any idea why wont my firefox work on wireless?
[00:33] <stinkfist> I just installed my wireless drivers and it says that i am connected
[00:33] <stinkfist> but firefox wont load any pages
[00:33] <wizonesolutions> netninja: Haha OK :P
[00:33] <stinkfist> as if its offline
[00:33] <Pici> aikInsaan|home: Yes, but your app may not work out-of-the-box, there may be programming changes needed for it to run on mono.
[00:33] <netninja> stinkfist: can you ping from a terminal window?
[00:33] <stinkfist> erm Im going to try that
[00:33] <stinkfist> ill google how to ping from a terminal
[00:34] <OffGridOps> was gonna say ping www.google.com or yahoo from terminal
[00:34] <bobweaver> OffGridOps:  your card is turned off by a switch   (Hard blocked: yes)   turn it on. if that dont work then rmmod hp_wmi
[00:34] <OffGridOps> wherre can i go to learn how to do that?
[00:35] <JoseP> Hey, I have a question
[00:35] <JoseP> is there a way to delete duplicate songs on Rhythmbox?
[00:35] <netninja> stinkfist: open a terminal window; type "ping yahoo.com", after a few seconds, type "Ctl-C" to stop, and see if you have any packet loss in the stats.
[00:35] <aikInsaan|home> hmm.....life getting excited
[00:36] <aikInsaan|home> so I should install mono and apache server and mercurial and everything else via the CLI
[00:36] <Pici> aikInsaan|home: Thats how the rest of us do it.
[00:37] <VinZe_DiamoNd> hola como estan?
[00:37] <JoseP> Bien, y tu?
[00:37] <VinZe_DiamoNd> muy bien gracias
[00:37] <KFP> ActionParsnip: There, installed updates.
[00:37] <aikInsaan|home> Pici: wow!
[00:37] <somsip> !es | VinZe_DiamoNd
[00:37] <aikInsaan|home> that is amazing
[00:37] <aikInsaan|home> always wanted to do it....ended up with a win server
[00:37] <aikInsaan|home> and never learnt a thing!
[00:37] <monohedron> hi guys, I'm looking for a way to load an image straight into the clipboard
[00:38] <JoseP> aikInsaan|home, I had a windows server
[00:38] <JoseP> never worked
[00:38] <bobweaver> OffGridOps:  this is what rfkill list does   if it say softblock  yes then there is a software trouble . if it say hard block there is a hardware swich that is blocking it
[00:38] <JoseP> never like it
[00:38] <JoseP> switched to Ubuntu, and in 2 days, I achieved what I didn't in 6 months
[00:38] <VinZe_DiamoNd> aparte de mi alguien habla español
[00:38] <VinZe_DiamoNd> ?¡
[00:38] <aikInsaan|home> so there need to be code changes if I want to run on mono??
[00:38] <Pici> somsip: there might need to be some
[00:38] <Pici> VinZe_DiamoNd: /join #ubuntu-es
[00:38] <JoseP> VinZe_DiamoNd, mira, hay un canal para espanol. creo que es #Ubuntu-es
[00:38] <somsip> Pici: not me mate
[00:39] <Pici> somsip: oops, sorry ;)
[00:39] <Pici> aikInsaan|home: there might need to be some
[00:39] <bobweaver> OffGridOps:  so if you flip the switch a bunch and rfkill list still shows that YES then it is wmi fault as that is what controls the switch
[00:39] <bobweaver> somethimes fault *
[00:40] <monohedron> looking for a way to load an image straight into the clipboard
[00:40] <OffGridOps> @bobweaver:  so i am seeing the wireless light on the keyboard with a blue light (f12 key).  What I don't know how to do is turn the hard block from off to on I guess
[00:40] <bobweaver> OffGridOps:  you said it was a cq57 ?
[00:40] <OffGridOps> yes sir.  profiled it on the thread above.  brand new.  wifi worked with the stick
[00:41] <KFP> ActionParsnip: ...But still the same situation.   Can't start X without deleting xorg.conf first. And then I'm stuck with 1280x800 resolution (on a 1920x1024 display), and can't use Nvidia X Server Settings. :\
[00:41] <VinZe_DiamoNd> nadie me contesta pero graciasx
[00:41] <OffGridOps> wait one.  weird thing happened when i hit f12
[00:42] <aikInsaan|home> Pici: what sort of changes are we looking at...??
[00:42] <bobweaver> OffGridOps:  cool look at rfkill list     again is hard block still blocked ?
[00:43] <OffGridOps> @bobweaver:  communicating via wireless now.  does this mean that each time i want to use the wireless I need to click the f12?  it seems odd that the blue light on the key stays blue whether it is on or off.
[00:43] <M4dD0G> please how do i download these files hat room. A little helpful information for beginners: http://pastebin.com/Y72QcnB9
[00:43] <bobweaver> OffGridOps:  if it is switched off
[00:43] <Pici> aikInsaan|home: I don't know. I'm not fluent in mono or .NET.  You may want to check out #mono on irc.gnome.org
[00:43] <aikInsaan|home> will do
[00:44] <aikInsaan|home> thanks guys
[00:44] <SolarisBoy> mono the viral infection?
[00:44] <OffGridOps> just a sec
[00:44] <M4dD0G> sorry wrong link https://libgarmin.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/libgarmin/libgarmin/dev/
[00:44] <monohedron> are there any other channels where I could pose that question?
[00:44] <monohedron> ?
[00:44] <monohedron> looking for a way to load an image straight into the clipboard
[00:45] <Pici> monohedron: ##linux, as it isn't Ubuntu specific.   (also, xclipboard *might* be helpful)
[00:45] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  that is a svn package? do you have subversion installed ?
[00:45] <monohedron> thanks can't retrieve channel list
[00:45] <netninja> monohedron: load it... from where?
[00:45] <monohedron> a file
[00:46] <netninja> monohedron: ugh.  so, right-click and hit copy?
[00:46] <monohedron> or even pipe it into clipbrd
[00:46] <monohedron> programatically
[00:46] <M4dD0G> bobweaver: no il go see if i can get it thanx..!
[00:46] <monohedron> ...
[00:46] <netninja> monhohedron: I"m trying to get you to refine your question with more relevant details :)
[00:46] <OffGridOps> @bobweaver:  so no it is not.  i disconnected the wifi by f12 and then had to mash it a bunch of times to get it back on.  i believe that the f12 is the key here and that some kind of work needs to be done to turn the light off and on or it will always be a mess and maybe notations put in about the cq57
[00:46] <kierkkadon> So while trying out Darwinia (could use a little more helpful tutorial, imo) it crashed and froze. On windows I usually ctrl+alt+del my way out of any program freezes, but I had no idea what to do in Ubuntu. Ctrl+alt+del logged me out and ended all open processes apparently, so I signed back in.
[00:46] <kierkkadon> Apparently, to GNOME 2. When I had been using 3.
[00:46] <kierkkadon> Having no idea what was going on, I restarted my whole computer, log back in, and it's back to normal. What do?
[00:47] <kierkkadon> (I'm completely new to linux, if you haven't noticed)
[00:47] <netninja> monohedron: as in, "I'm trying to figure out how to write a script which will automatically take a file as input and place the resultant image (jpeg, png, whatever) into the clipboard.
[00:47] <OffGridOps> @bobweaver:  would like permission to use your name in the ubuntu forums thread and give a rundown on our discussions tonight
[00:47] <monohedron> netninja, jup
[00:47] <monohedron> that would do
[00:47] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  sudo apt-get -y install subversion && svn checkout  https://libgarmin.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/libgarmin libgarmin
[00:48] <netninja> monohedron: are you familiar with programming languages, or are you *not* looking to write your own?
[00:48] <DarwinSurvivor> has anyone here had issues with gnome-terminal not redrawing properly? (tried nvidia 180 & 190, using gnome-shell w/o compiz)
[00:48] <marabi2> hello how are you doing my dear?
[00:48] <monohedron> yes i can do that in python for example but I don't get it that there isn't a tool like xclip7
[00:48] <monohedron> xclip
[00:49] <M4dD0G>  bobweaver: im on a N900, im trying to get navit installed. it's installed now
[00:49] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  not sure what that is sorry
[00:49] <kierkkadon> Navi
[00:50] <wtfTroll> i got an irc related question
[00:50] <funnyfingers> Will (or has?..) Ubuntu continue to use init LSB for the foreseeable future or will it move to systemd?
[00:50] <M4dD0G> bobweaver: it's a gps map. open source.
[00:51] <wtfTroll> i know how to set IRC ops from conf but is there an IRC op mode
[00:51] <benayache> hi
[00:51] <Pici> wtfTroll: #freenode would be a more appropriate place for this
[00:51] <bobweaver> OffGridOps:  that is fine (fourms ) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/josephmills
[00:51] <binMonkey> hi, guys.  i want to creat a launcher for a precompiled binary that runs in a terminal emulator but nothing i've tried works.  any ideas?
[00:52] <M4dD0G> im getting segmentation fault when trying command "svn checkout http://libgarmin.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/libgarmin/libgarmin/dev libgarmin"
[00:52] <funnyfingers> binMonkey sort of like in Windows where an extension tied to an executable?
[00:53] <Kimble> What's the best practise for disabling a /etc/init.d/ service from running on boot?
[00:53] <monohedron> !ops wtfTroll trolling
[00:54] <StepNjump> Hi guys, up until recently, my computer was working well. Yesterday it told me I only had 1.5 GB left available on my partition and now it's down at 3.5 MB.. Strangely enough, I think I have plenty of room. I tried du -sh, looked at gparted... I think my home partition is on the same partition as / anyone could help?
[00:54] <binMonkey> funnyfingers: i don't think so.  i can run it from the terminal using ./adom.  but addiing /home/binMonkey/adom/adom or ./adom to a launcher does nothing but open up a terminal.
[00:54] <OffGridOps> @bobweaver:  ok thanx and it will be in the ubuntu thread as listed initially
[00:54] <Pici> monohedron: what?
[00:54] <Pici> monohedron: I don't see any issues.
[00:55] <monohedron> ...
[00:55] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: try df -h (du is for the current folder)
[00:55] <brightspark> Hi, the icons for my volume and network connection (maverick; in the notification area) do not reflect my current icon theme.  How can I fix this?
[00:56] <Pici> monohedron: if you want to pm me about it, thats fine too.
[00:56] <sudoman> StepNjump: what if you try # apt-get clean ?
[00:56] <sudoman> StepNjump: that would clear out your apt cache.
[00:56] <funnyfingers> Kimble - it is a symbolic link from within /etc/rcX there is also a command that does that for you.  I forget the name offhand.
[00:56] <StepNjump> Thanks DarwinSurvivor and sudoman.. Let me try those. brb
[00:56] <M4dD0G> bobweaver: im getting segmentation fault when trying command "svn checkout http://libgarmin.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/libgarmin/libgarmin/dev libgarmin"
[00:57] <funnyfingers> rc0.d/    rc2.d/    rc4.d/    rc6.d/    rcS.d/
[00:57] <funnyfingers> rc1.d/    rc3.d/    rc5.d/    rc.local
[00:57] <stinkfist> i think x chat bugged for a while
[00:57] <stinkfist> so if anyone replied to me please repeat ; _ ;
[00:57] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  let me try
[00:58] <StepNjump> Thanks DarwinSurvivor, df -h reports that my / is on sda6... I guess.... and that I have 8 GB available still... But a lot of applications were starting to tell me that I am running out of disk space!
[00:58] <Kimble> funnyfingers: hey.  Hmm, I'll look into it. Thanks.  Get back to me if you remember the command for it :)
[00:59] <crazytrane> kimble, install bum from apt-get
[00:59] <sudoman> StepNjump: maybe you do have different partitions then?
[00:59] <crazytrane> that is an easy way to do it
[00:59] <StepNjump> sudoman, yes I have a lot of other partitions...
[00:59] <Kimble> crazytrane: looking it up now. Ta.
[00:59] <crazytrane> if you like the gui, otherwise chkconfig will work too
[01:00] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  open termminal : mkdir <name of program>   then   cd <new dir >  then   svn checkout https://libgarmin.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/libgarmin/libgarmin/dev/
[01:00] <StepNjump> from previous failed installs
[01:00] <Kimble> crazytrane: oh, bum needs a GUI? I'm CLI only. So, chkconfig then?
[01:00] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: paste the entire output of "df -h" to pastebin.org and post the link
[01:02] <crazytrane> oh yeah
[01:02] <stinkfist> when i write sudo lshw -C network in the terminal they ask for password
[01:02] <crazytrane> chkconfig
[01:02] <stinkfist> what password are they asking for exactly ?
[01:02] <DarwinSurvivor> stinkfist: you are using "sudo" which asks for YOUR password to perform adminstrative actions
[01:02] <stinkfist> but it never let me finishes typing it for some reason
[01:02] <L3d> can someone explain to me how to add the xvba lines in etc/env ,cause i keep getting errors ,and i dont know if i need to justify and what not :/
[01:02] <DarwinSurvivor> stinkfist: what do you mean by "never lets you finish"?
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> DarwinSurvivor: could use:  df -h | pastebinit
[01:02] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  after that run :  ./autosh.sh    then  ./configure   then   make    then make install
[01:02] <borillion> um how do you grep for things like symbols ex '->cow
[01:02] <Pici> stinkfist: for security reasons, it won't echo back asterisks or anything when you type your password.
[01:02] <stinkfist> it always interrupts me saying Sorry try again
[01:02] <DarwinSurvivor> ActionParsnip: *if* he has pastebinit installed...
[01:02] <Hilikus> can somone take a look at this pulse log and tell me if there's anything wrong? i'm trying to start pulse from the mpd user unsuccessfully
[01:02] <OerHeks> stinkfish you won't see dots or stars when typing your password
[01:02] <Hilikus> http://pastebin.com/YMfkyhm2
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> stinkfist: just ttype your password and hit enter, sudo gives no visible feeback
[01:03] <M4dD0G> bobweaver: ERROR SHADOW:/home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps# mkdir libgarmin
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> DarwinSurvivor: its easy to install, great tool
[01:03] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  I will write a script
[01:03] <L3d> someone pm me pls .......
[01:03] <DarwinSurvivor> ActionParsnip: i agree, but getting every user that has stuff to post once to install it gets a little tiring :P
[01:03] <stinkfist> it wont let me finish typing it...
[01:03] <StepNjump> DarwinSurvivor thanks! http://paste.ubuntu.com/761098/
[01:04] <Kimble> crazytrane: thanks for the recommendation. chkconfig looks the business. Karma +
[01:04] <L3d> vaapi and some good upate support would b nice tho ..
[01:04] <M4dD0G> bobweaver:  SHADOW:/home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps# mkdir libgarmin /home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps# cd /home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps/libgarmin//home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps# cd /home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps/libgarmin//home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps# cd /home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps/libgarmin/
[01:05] <L3d> how do i need to add the xvba lines in etc/env i know im in terminal and in the env file but what next ?
[01:05] <L3d> i like nana but im purdy new to all this
[01:05] <crazytrane> no prob, kimble!
[01:05] <L3d> lol nano
[01:06] <stinkfist> i think i got it now i understand what actionparsnip meant
[01:06] <L3d> damn
[01:06] <stinkfist> >.< i was pressing enter so i can see what i was typing
[01:06] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: good lord, why so many unused partitions? you have 10 partitions split between 2 drives and only appear to be using 1 of them (plus swap)....
[01:06] <Pici> L3d: Just type the lines in there that you need and save and you're done.  What part of it are you having issues with?
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> DarwinSurvivor: true but very worthwhile
[01:06] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: do you dual-boot into a bunch of other distros/os's?
[01:06] <brightspark> Hi, the icons for my volume and network connection (maverick; in the notification area) do not reflect my current icon theme.  How can I fix this?
[01:06] <brightspark> gtk-update-icon-cache: The generated cache was invalid.
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> brightspark: could try logoff then logon
[01:06] <StepNjump> DarwinSurvivor.. I know... I need to recover the files from those old installations! I'm a real organization nightmare.. I know!
[01:06] <L3d> xvba needs to work with vaapi man ..
[01:07] <StepNjump> DarwinSurvivor, no! not even... just ntfs that I'm slowly phasing out too
[01:07] <StepNjump> I'm a work in progress
[01:07] <L3d> keep getting errors at the vainfo
[01:07] <brightspark> ActionParsnip, thanks.  This has persisted across reboots for some time now.  When I actually open power management it uses the correct icon, but not in the tray.
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> brightspark: does it affect all themes?
[01:08] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: well, bottom line: you are using a 35GB partition for *everything* in ubuntu and have 8.1GB of that left (line 2). try "sudo apt-get clean" as sudoman suggested
[01:08] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/761101/   <-- take that and copy to gedit   then name garmin-script  and put in home dirctory. then open terminal and do a chmod +x garmin-script   then run ./garmin-script
[01:08] <tjkent> I can't get my printer to show up in ubuntu
[01:09] <StepNjump> Yes I have done this DarwinSurvivor.. Haven't seen the error since
[01:09] <tjkent> I have downloaded the driver but it won't show up under printers,
[01:09] <L3d> ok so i dont know hwta im doing wrong ,cant i just use synaptic for all this extra work ??
[01:09] <brightspark> ActionParsnip, yes.  I see the icon for the volume control and the logoff/shutdown menu change but not the icons for volume or network.
[01:09] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: it probably wasn't an error at all. the apt cache can EASILY take up multiple GigaBytes of space if not cleaned after a few months of updates
[01:09] <StepNjump> DarwinSurvivor, which partition contains my grub info (/boot)?
[01:10] <M4dD0G> bobweaver: ok thanks. will try it now. theres something wrong with svn. don't forget im not using ubuntu, but maemo5.
[01:10] <sudoman> StepNjump: if you didn't set it manually, it is under /
[01:10] <StepNjump> Besides DarwinSurvivor, I'm not even sure which software was telling me that I was running out of space. Could have been ubuntu one
[01:10] <sudoman> StepNjump: ... the same partition that / is on
[01:10] <L3d> why is vaapi such a difficult thing ...
[01:11] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: from your post: the actual data is in sda6, but the bootloader is either directly in sda or sdb (check your BIOS to see which drive it boots from).
[01:11] <StepNjump> ok sudoman
[01:11] <bobweaver> oh M4dD0G what is maemo5 ?
[01:11] <L3d> i see there is a diffrance in players and oss too heh
[01:11] <StepNjump> I should have created a /boot partition though with all those other old partitions
[01:11] <StepNjump> boots from sda
[01:11] <DarwinSurvivor> so /boot is part of sda06 (main partition), but it will be "activated" by a small bootloader in one of the 2 drives' boot sectors
[01:11] <M4dD0G> bobweaver: os for nokia N900
[01:12] <L3d> can someone pm me please to get thru this vainfo issue ?
[01:12] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  we should take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:12] <StepNjump> but which partition... ! ??? Don't know... Not a problem. I will eventually reinstall the boot info in a /boot partition and do a update-grub but it scares the heck out of me
[01:12] <sudoman> StepNjump: i don't think there's much of an advantage of having a separate boot partition unless you are trying to encrypt as much as you possibly can. (you have to leave the boot partition unencrypted, because otherwise, you wouldn't have a kernel to perform the decryption.)
[01:12] <StepNjump> Ok guys, thanks for your help. I will let you know in case the error happens again
[01:13] <StepNjump> Well that's another good reason sudoman. I want to encrypt my ~/ eventually so... good point
[01:13] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: sda6 ( mounted as "/" )
[01:13] <L3d> how do i install tar.gz files again ?
[01:14] <L3d> ill get the splitted desktop ones than ..
[01:14] <sudoman> StepNjump: but you can do that without encypting the the / partition. if you don't encrypt that, you don't need to install a separate /boot partition. you can just let them stay together
[01:14] <M4dD0G> bobweaver: ok, sorry..!
[01:14] <StepNjump> Ok DarwinSurvivor.. Yes that's what I thought! thanks for confirming sda6
[01:14] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  this phone looks awesome !
[01:14] <sudoman> StepNjump: if you are interested in going all the way, look up installation instructions for "full disk encryption"
[01:15] <L3d> how do i install the splitted desktop libva1 and xvba tar.gz,s
[01:15] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: basically, unless you see a drive mounted AS /boot, that means it is simply in the drive mounted as /
[01:15] <StepNjump> oh I see what you are saying sudoman.. So I would just encrypt a separate ~/ on it's own partition?
[01:15] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: with ecrypfs you don't even need to use a separate partition
[01:15] <sudoman> StepNjump: actually, ubuntu supports encrypting individual home folders, but you could also encrypt a separate home partition
[01:16] <StepNjump> yes but I wouldn't want my / encrypted all the way! That would be dumb no?
[01:16] <sudoman> StepNjump: the first might be easier to set up, i don't know
[01:16] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[01:16] <netninja> Question: I had Ubuntu installed on my laptop with everything working fine.  I upgraded to 8gb ram from 2 (two new 4gb chips) and all of a sudden, suspend doesn't re-initialize the video after I bring it out of suspend, and hibernate doesn't restart from session on bring-out-of-hibernate, it starts fresh.  Memory checks out ok.  Any ideas?
[01:16] <StepNjump> oh really! sudoman.. even my ~/Documents folder alone?
[01:16] <StepNjump> Thank you very much DarwinSurvivor and sudoman for all your help
[01:17] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: ecryptfs can be used to encrypt ANY folder (~/, ~/Documents, ~/Private, etc)
[01:17] <sudoman> StepNjump: well, you might want an encrypted /tmp and swap since those sometimes get temporary files from your home folder written to them. beyond that, it's a certain level of paranoia. (i have "full" disk encryption)
[01:17] <L3d> splitted desktop has libva1 with patches ,is this still the normal libva1 ?or do i need a libva cause its now-where ,im lost here ,someone ?
[01:17] <DarwinSurvivor> sudoman: swap is a good idea, but /tmp is never written to the HDD, so there's no point encrypting that
[01:18] <brightspark> ActionParsnip, I just confirmed that the problem persists across logoffs no matter which icon set I am using.
[01:18] <sudoman> DarwinSurvivor: didn't know that... thanks for the heads-up :)
[01:18] <DarwinSurvivor> sudoman: oh, wait, hold on a second
[01:18] <StepNjump> ok great!
[01:18] <DarwinSurvivor> sudoman: nope, my mistake, it is on the HDD. I hade manually set it up as a ramdisk :P
[01:18] <L3d> icon problems brightspark ?
[01:18] <sudoman> DarwinSurvivor: good idea :)
[01:18] <StepNjump> Iwill encrypt just ~/Documents, /tmp and /swap then!
[01:19] <L3d> remove smplayer i think ..
[01:19] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: sorry, /tmp IS on the HDD, you can mount it as a ramdisk if you like, but that pre-allocates ram (make sure you have LOTS before doing that!)
[01:19] <sudoman> StepNjump: you mean "swap", no '/'. it's a partition, not a folder
[01:19] <brightspark> L3d, yes- the notification area does not use the correct icons based on the theme I have selected.
[01:19] <StepNjump> I don't understand DarwinSurvivor? I only have 2 GB
[01:20] <L3d> what player do u use ?
[01:20] <brightspark> L3d, volume control uses the correct icon, but not battery or network
[01:20] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: the easiest (and most common) thing to do is encrypt the home folder of each user (~/), that includes Documents, Pictures, settings, cache, etc
[01:20] <StepNjump> oh ok sudoman.. so swap partition has to be encrypted eh?
[01:20] <SolarisBoy> heh
[01:20] <blaodsa> hey can anyone tell me what getty is and where it is for?
[01:20] <L3d> i got some other folder vieuw with smplayer some times ,i dunno
[01:20] <StepNjump> right.. Well I don't care about my pictures.. Nothing that I need to hide there.. It's more my banking info
[01:21] <sudoman> StepNjump: it doesn't have to be... but if you are willing to find good instructions, it can be done.
[01:21] <SolarisBoy> its a vty no?
[01:21] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: you can make /tmp a partition that resides in RAM, but then you have a limited size for /tmp and part of your ram gets used up for it. I wouldn't bother if I were you
[01:21] <brightspark> L3d, The program 'smplayer' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[01:21] <brightspark> sudo apt-get install smplayer
[01:21] <L3d> lol bankling info in a pc
[01:21] <SolarisBoy> blaodsa: they are virtual tty's
[01:21] <SolarisBoy> blaodsa: they spawn the VT's you access with CTRL + ALT + FN
[01:22] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: when encrypting the home folder, it automatically decripts it when you log in (using you password), it's 100% transparent and VERY easy to use.
[01:22] <SolarisBoy> blaodsa: if tou have for instance 4 running you have like that many available virtual terminals that you can switch too
[01:22] <L3d> som programs change layout wich can do some other layout changes i think .. dont know anything else
[01:22] <L3d> what do i use for installing tar.gz ??
[01:22] <StepNjump> Yes ok DarwinSurvivor and sudoman.. I appreciate all your explanations. BTW, is there a macro available for xchat that would type our correspondent's nick when replying on the channel? either by right clicking or anything?
[01:23] <determinology> Ive ran into another problem when im on windows the internet is fast but when being on ubuntu the updates+apps+internet browsing is slow..Any ideas and even sometimes it doesnt connect to the page and i have to refresh
[01:23] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: also remember that lots of applications (even banking ones) save stuff to ~/.config, ~/.local, etc in the home folder, so you should encrypt the entire home folder if you are going to bother encrypting in the first place
[01:23] <brightspark> StepNjump, xchat has tab completion, which is probably easier to use in the first place.
[01:23] <sudoman> StepNjump: in weechat at least, you can start typing the first few letters and hit tab.
[01:23] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: type the first few characters, then hit <tab> for auto-complete
[01:23] <jehoshua02> Any tips on how to troubleshoot an "unable to read" message with ImageMagick?
[01:24] <StepNjump> I know DarwinSurvivor. It's really nice. I had it before but got worried that in the event my X would crash, I wouldn't know how to decrypt at the TTY
[01:24] <blaodsa> SolarisBoy: and what can i set or run when i start getty in a normal console?!
[01:24] <netninja> Question: I had Ubuntu installed on my laptop with everything working fine.  I upgraded to 8gb ram from 2 (two new 4gb chips) and all of a sudden, suspend doesn't re-initialize the video after I bring it out of suspend, and hibernate doesn't restart from session on bring-out-of-hibernate, it starts fresh.  Memory checks out ok.  Any ideas?
[01:24] <L3d> so after all my cmd time ,do i still need additional res drivers ?
[01:24] <L3d> you,d say allways heh no ?
[01:24] <SolarisBoy> blaodsa: why would you want to start getty from a normal console?
[01:24] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: the link I posted includes instructions for manual decryption via command line
[01:25] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: besides, you should have external backups anyways :P
[01:25] <L3d> i allready got catalyst ,does this change after this ?
[01:25] <blaodsa> SolarisBoy: because my teacher told me i should do it .. and he wants to know the anser.. :D
[01:25] <StepNjump> oh nice, I'll try weechat! sudoman. Ok DarwinSurvivor.. copy that. I will encrypt the whole ~/ then
[01:25] <SolarisBoy> so you want your homework done?
[01:25] <SolarisBoy> blaodsa: your teacher told you you should do what?
[01:26] <L3d> im confussed
[01:26] <blaodsa> SolarisBoy: user getty in an normal console and find out what goes on ..
[01:26] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: just make sure that you save a copy of the "encryption key" when you set up encryption (it will tell you to anyways). That key can be used to decrypt everything, so print/write it on paper and you will never lose your files :D
[01:26] <L3d> this joint should make up for that
[01:26] <SolarisBoy> that doesn't make sense
[01:27] <L3d> do i need additional restricted drivers after i allreadsy installed catalyst ?
[01:27] <SolarisBoy> you can access getty from a normal console as long as your on a remote connection to the host (like DRAC or ILO) or you are in front of it
[01:28] <L3d> gosh i mean ubuntu restricked extras ,do i need those after catalyst ?
[01:29] <L3d> i hope it doesnt do annything to the rest of my stuff see
[01:30] <L3d> my last question ehm restricked extras ,do i need those after i installed catalyst and the likes ?
[01:30] <Drone4four> i recently installed a Oneiric based Linux distro. it booted fine until I changed my fstab. i altered my fstab so i could access my ntfs and other Linux partitions. Now when I boot in recovery mode, it hangs after 2 or 3 seconds.  instead of using a pastebin, you can view my various fstabs and error message in the forum thread i created, here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=dab3245f216a61fdac23b704b5216
[01:30] <Drone4four> 800&p=11516014#post11516014
[01:31] <Drone4four> ugh, correct URL in full: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=dab3245f216a61fdac23b704b5216800&p=11516014#post11516014
[01:31] <n3oinc> Hello all. I was wondering if someone could help a noob out. I'm trying to figure out how to get Ubuntu (Running in VirtualBox) to consider the NIC it has as being an actual wireless interface. Any ideas?
[01:31] <L3d> i need to go on forums these days ...............
[01:31] <brightspark> Drone4four, what exactly does Oneiric-based mean?  You probably won't find help for something other than real ubuntu here.
[01:32] <Drone4four> brightspark: Mint 12
[01:32] <Drone4four> it's basically Ubuntu Oneiric, just with a different GUI
[01:32] <brightspark> !mint | Drone4four
[01:32] <L3d> my last question ehm restricked extras ,do i need those after i installed catalyst and the likes ?
[01:32] <L3d> i can do this ..
[01:33] <n3oinc> L3d: I believe that has something to do with encoded/compressed formats. Watching DVD's etc... Think you need that.
[01:33] <Hilikus> how can i install pulseaudio 1.1 which is currently on precise in oneiric?
[01:33] <L3d> i know that installing stuff sometimes needs to be done in a proper order am i wrong?
[01:33] <L3d> no im good at reign i gues
[01:34] <L3d> one dvd i plyed ,went purdy good
[01:34] <Drone4four> ...
[01:34] <L3d> srry for my dutch miss-spells
[01:35] <seanmc98> is there a way to blok ads system wide on ubuntu?
[01:35] <L3d> i dont want to install the ubuntu restrictive extras now because im not shure if stuff will fook up
[01:36] <L3d> addblock and better privacy work from browsers sows
[01:36] <seanmc98> even on chrome?
[01:36] <L3d> dont know if theres fine tunning
[01:36] <Drone4four> seanbrig1t: Linux Mint comes with ads?
[01:37] <L3d> u have that ubu chrome ?
[01:37] <L3d> thingy?
[01:37] <L3d> mint<--
[01:37] <n3oinc> Any idea how to make Ubuntu think a wired card is actually wireless?
[01:37] <seanmc98> L3d, yes chrome in ubuntu
[01:37] <Resistance> n3oinc:  if its not a wifi card, then no
[01:38] <n3oinc> Resistance: It's a bridged virtual adapter
[01:38] <L3d> i think it works wait a sec
[01:38] <n3oinc> Resistance: From a wireless card
[01:38] <L3d> http://noscript.net/
[01:38] <bhrandon> Is there a way to list files and fodlers in a directory by size?
[01:38] <bhrandon> using terminal
[01:39] <L3d> that and better privacy and addblock work a ok
[01:39] <L3d> jave allways complains :p
[01:39] <L3d> jaba
[01:39] <L3d> java
[01:39] <sudoman> Drone4four: i think he is talking about browser ads.
[01:40] <L3d> well maybe there all like guards .
[01:42] <L3d> noscript ,better privacy ,addblock heh cant seem to find it , arnt in the software center but in the issue mag,s
[01:42] <raven> ffmpeg where to find .ffpresets files? x264 presets (veryslow, ...) missing
[01:44] <L3d> does ffmpeg work for dual cores from the pc ?
[01:44] <Hilikus> how do i install a package from 12.04?
[01:44] <L3d> i thought it does
[01:44] <raven> ffmpeg where to find .ffpresets files? x264 presets (veryslow, ...) missing
[01:44] <itscool> how do i change the order of the icons in the unity bar? clicking and dragging is not working. using 11.10 ubu
[01:44] <netninja> itscool: click and drag, but drag it out sideways first.
[01:44] <L3d> hold mouse button pherhapns
[01:45] <neonflx2> so a while back i got banned because i was voicing my opinion about the direction is heading with unity, i was not belligerent or did i use any foul language, the reason i got banned was because the op did not agree with my point of view, reality is that unity  has created some controversy and for the op to banned me just because it shows that we are not as "open source" as we think we are
[01:45] <itscool> netmind, forgot to mention that I was dragging sideways too with no success.
[01:45] <netninja> neonflx2: who cares?
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> Hilikus: sudo apt-get install packagename   12.04 is supported in #ubuntu+1
[01:46] <neonflx2> you may not, in the long run you will
[01:46] <netninja> neonflx2: thanks for telling me what I will care about.
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> neonflx2: voicing opinions is offtopic here, this is support ONLY
[01:46] <netninja> neonflx2: what ubuntu does with their GUI is really the least of my worries, considering there are 4 billion alternatives.
[01:46] <L3d> are the ubuntu restrictive extras still needed after i have catalyst ,cause vaapi wont work  ?
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> neonflx2: if you disobey the guidelines of the channel you will be ejected and/or banned
[01:47] <bhrandon> nvm I got it. ls -s -S
[01:47] <itscool> neonflx2: it is clear from your statement why you got banned. this channel is for helping people with their installations, not with debating the roadmap of ubuntu. there are other forums, mailing lists, developer channels and irc spots for that.
[01:47] <neonflx2> haha disobey, i like that term
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> neonflx2: so the op didn't ban you for disagreeing with unity in any way
[01:47] <neonflx2> feel like i'm a slave
[01:47] <gogeta> neonflx2: lol unity is fail but venting abought is kinda old hat
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> neonflx2: you agree to the terms when you join the channel, just stick to the simpe guides and you will be fine
[01:47] <bhrandon> #ubuntu-offtopic was referred to me for off-topic discussion Neonflx2
[01:48] <neonflx2> yes the op did not like my criticism of unity
[01:48] <L3d> one time i did install restrickive extras and my resolution and everything went wrong ..
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> neonflx2: you can feel like a slave if you want as long as you follow the rules of the channel, its quite simple
[01:48] <crazytrane> venting about unity is so, like uh 11.04
[01:48] <crazytrane> lol
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> neonflx2: maybe but criticism is also offtopic here
[01:48] <gogeta> neonflx2: yea it goes to the offtopic raging hear as i said is old news
[01:48] <netninja> neonflx2: no one is this stupid in real life.  unity vents don't have any place here.  that's all there is to it.
[01:48] <neonflx2> that is why mint is surpassing ubuntu, cause of the reluctant to acknowledge that unity is flaw
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> neonflx2: all non-support stuff is perfectly welcommed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:49] <netninja> neonflx2: and at the risk of feeding a troll, the obvious statement applies: if you don't like it here, go somewhere else.
[01:49] <randomuser> does installing gnome-power-manager no longer provide a gnome-power-manager gui ?
[01:49] <itscool> so back to the unity bar, if click and hold and drag sideways off the bar doesn't work, and i have installed ccsm. what are my options to get it to work so i can reorganize my icons?
[01:49] <L3d> good or bad to install restrickive extras after catalyst and the likes ?
[01:49] <neonflx2> not a troll im still using ubuntu
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> neonflx2: it's not at all, and if you think distrowatch is a good gauge, you are sadly mistaken
[01:49] <neonflx2> just stating the facts
[01:49] <KFP> ActionParsnip: Still stuck with "Kernel module nvidia missing". Any ideas?
[01:49] <raven> ffmpeg where to find .ffpresets files? x264 presets (veryslow, ...) missing
[01:49] <jsilva> Hi all, I want to install tinycorelinux inside ubuntu, but I can't find information about it. Any help?
[01:49] <gogeta> jsilva: do you mean in a vm
[01:49] <L3d> vainfo got u there too ?>
[01:49] <neonflx2> peace
[01:49] <gogeta> jsilva: tiny core is a distro
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> KFP: what if you run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[01:49] <netninja> neonflx2: your opinions about GUI design are hardly facts.
[01:50] <itscool> jsilva: install virtual box and then tiny core ontop of that
[01:50] <jsilva> gogeta: No, in the same disk, using the same ubuntu partition
[01:50] <gogeta> jsilva: that would explode your install
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> neoark: if you don't like unity/gnome, you can always switch to xfce, lxde, kde or another DE. Gnome is not the only desktop
[01:50] <netninja> itscool: are you logged in as a user, or as a guest?
[01:50] <itscool> jsilva: or reduce the size of your ubu partition and install tiny core in dual boot into the remaining new space you opened up.
[01:51] <L3d> sudo nano works ..
[01:51] <Kimble> I'm struggling to turn off boot services. I have smbd, winbind and nmbd in my init.d folder. I no longer want them to run on boot. What's the best way to do this?
[01:51] <itscool> netninja: as user.
[01:51] <gogeta> jsilva: you can vm it or use a seprate partation but you can but 2 os on the same partation
[01:51] <KFP> ActionParsnip: It then fails to restart X, saying "kernel module nvidia not found" and goes to terminal instead.
[01:51] <gogeta> cant put
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> KFP: try:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install dkms
[01:52] <jsilva> gogeta: it is possible, but I am trying to point a custom entry in grub2 and is not working
[01:52] <gogeta> jsilva: even if you did the data would cruupt
[01:53] <gogeta> jsilva: oh you mean a furgal install
[01:53] <gogeta> jsilva: where tiny core is on a image file
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> jsilva: install virtualbox-ose  then download and MD5 test the tinycore iso and use it to boot in a new virtual system
[01:53] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: hes talking abought fugal install
[01:53] <itscool> Kimble: you can make a backup folder in there and move them into there. and reboot, that should likely do the trick.
[01:54] <jsilva> ActionParsnip: thanks but I don't want tinycore inside ubuntu, I want boot tinycore from ubuntu grub
[01:54] <Kimble> itscool: i guess that's one way :)
[01:54] <itscool> Kimble: problem is, tho, what depends on them. will the be satisfied and will your system hang because they aren't running?
[01:54] <L3d> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources. what do i do next to get gecko to install ?
[01:55] <gogeta> jsilva: yea there grub script isnt very smart
[01:55] <jsilva> gogeta: :/
[01:55] <Kimble> itscool: I've disabled them manually while booted and nothing seems to complain, so hopefully things should be fine.
[01:55] <L3d> im trying to update wine with the added url but i cnt get past that
[01:55] <itscool> is there a unity config file that can be edited by hand to control the order of the icons?
[01:56] <gogeta> jsilva: ever run puppy its nearly the same but a bit more loaded
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> L3d: how did you add the wine ppa?
[01:56] <gogeta> jsilva: with mutch smarter installers
[01:56] <Kimble> Unless: I'm mounting a local cifs share usine fstab. Will uninstalling smbd, nmbd and winbind interfere with that?
[01:56] <itscool> kimble: sounds like you got the preliminary data you need to proceed with a mv to a backup folder.
[01:56] <L3d> copeyd in other sources
[01:56] <ldiamond> I used to love Ubuntu, however, 11.10 has Unity only and I hate it. What are the alternatives? (I tried Xfce, but it's far less functional than Gnome was on Ubuntu... speaking of media keys on kb and some other basic functionality or bugs)
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> L3d: did you use add-apt-repository ?
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> L3d: or did you edit sources.list
[01:57] <anadon> i'm trying to print off a giant image from my standard printer.  How do I do this?
[01:57] <gogeta> ldiamond: xfce is abought as close as you can get
[01:57] <L3d> last one in settins
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> L3d: undo whatever you did, then in a terminal, run: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> L3d: and you will have zero issues
[01:57] <ldiamond> So no plans to have a gnome2-like UI in Ubuntu?
[01:58] <gogeta> ldiamond: you can try mint with mate witch is a gnome 2 fork onto gtk3 but is still very early
[01:58] <L3d> giggity
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> ldiamond: you can use xfce, looks and smells like gnome2
[01:58] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip, I tried Xubuntu and it's a sub-par distro
[01:59] <gogeta> ldiamond: most ditros to me are sub par these days
[01:59] <crazytrane> ditto
[01:59] <jsilva> gogeta: is there a way to test grub2 files without rebooting?
[01:59] <gogeta> ldiamond: linux is so busy trying to change they forget it wasent broken
[02:00] <L3d> do i need third party developers repository and launchpad/rexbron?
[02:00] <ldiamond> gogeta, what distro do you use then?
[02:01] <gogeta> ldiamond: arch
[02:01] <itscool> jsilva: found this, long read, but describe what you want to do with tiny core. >>> http://gr8idea.info/os/tutorials/tiny-core/install.html
[02:01] <ldiamond> subpar as well?
[02:01] <gogeta> ldiamond: arch comes with a base kernel and a package manager
[02:01] <L3d> dont know where thay came from ,i think ubuntu games is supposed to be there
[02:01] <gogeta> ldiamond: you build it yourself
[02:01] <ldiamond> ugh, I don't have time for that
[02:02] <anadon> i'm trying to print off a giant image from my standard printer.  How do I do this?
[02:02] <gogeta> ldiamond: its very well documented if you can read and type ts easy
[02:02] <ldiamond> I used to run ubuntu 10.04. It was functional
[02:02] <itscool> ldiamond: you can also install gnome-desktop and that will give you a gnome2-like interface. i've got installed on mine.
[02:03] <ldiamond> in 11.10 isn't gnome-desktop giving you Unity?
[02:03] <L3d> http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu is this normaly in the other sources list ?
[02:03] <ldiamond> are you referring to gnome-panel package?
[02:03] <itscool> ldiamond: no
[02:03] <gogeta> ldiamond: lets hope when mate gets a bit less buggy ubuntu picks it up
[02:03] <gogeta> ldiamond: so we all get the gnome 2 ui back
[02:03] <L3d> Third party developers repository
[02:04] <itscool> ldiamond: look at the description in synaptic for the entry 'gnome-desktop', you'll drool again.
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> ldiamond: its the same distro, just a different set of default apps, the underlying mechanics are 00% identical
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> 100%
[02:04] <gogeta> ldiamond: i think there is a ppa for mate for ubuntu
[02:05] <gogeta> ldiamond: note its still very early most thing probly whont work
[02:05] <netninja> will ubuntu run without a swapdisk?
[02:05] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip,  what distro are you refering to?
[02:05] <tofa> Hi I would like to update from ubuntu 10.04 32 bit to any release after and including 10.04 that is 64 bit, which my processor supports. I have a dual boot system. Is there anyway to do this from within ubuntu and thereby not disturb the dual boot?
[02:05] <Hilikus> does anyone know a way to update pulseaudio to 1.1? i can't find a ppa or anything for 11.10
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> netninja: yes
[02:05] <L3d> ActionParsnip what is normaly in the other sources list btw ?
[02:05] <gogeta> netninja: yes swap is kinda pointless on systems with alot of ram
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> ldiamond: xubuntu, its the same ubuntu, just uses xfce4 as the de instead of gnome
[02:05] <netninja> ActionParsnip: I think my suspend/hibernate issues are because I have no swapdisk, even though I attempted to install one.  How can I get the system to recognize the swap disk?
[02:05] <OerHeks> Hilikus, build it yourself ?
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> L3d: the default repos
[02:05] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip, yes, but the default apps don't work well.
[02:06] <Hilikus> OerHeks: there's too many dependencies
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> netninja: you will need swap for hibernate
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> ldiamond: you can install gnome apps in xubuntu and they will run
[02:06] <netninja> ActionParsnip: so how do I get it to recognize?
[02:06] <L3d> can i get a picie ?
[02:06] <gogeta> ldiamond: you can install the aps you like after and remove the ones you dont
[02:06] <L3d> ill look a picture up on google
[02:06] <ldiamond> gogeta, one being gnome :p. At least it would handle the media keyboard
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> netninja: recognise what, the swap?
[02:07] <netninja> yes
[02:07] <raven> how to control cpu frequency by cmd
[02:07] <gogeta> ldiamond: one of the reasion i whent to arch to install the apps i whanted
[02:07] <netninja> ActionParsnip: am I to add the swapspace in fstab?
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> netninja: you should have on
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> *one
[02:07] <netninja> I have a swapspace; it's not in use when I "mount" or "df -h"
[02:08] <L3d> no "other sources " is normaly on than i gues ?
[02:08] <gogeta> ldiamond: wg i whant xfce4 with pidgin firefox and mplayer
[02:08] <gogeta> eg
[02:08] <netninja> so, my question stands: how do I get the system to recognize the swapspace?
[02:08] <L3d> no getdeb.net gmaes
[02:08] <gogeta> ldiamond: so only those apps are installed
[02:08] <StepNjump> DarwinSurvivor sorry for not getting back to you. I was away. I just read what you wrote. Thank you.
[02:08] <L3d> for games ?
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> netninja: do you have it defined in /etc/fstab
[02:09] <netninja> ActionParsnip: hence my question, "do I make sure it's added in /etc/fstab?" :P
[02:09]  * netninja checks
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> L3d: you can add the getdeb ppa with the deb on their site
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> netninja: the default install will have made one and added it in fstab
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> netninja: I am not aware of how you installed so cannot say for sure how YOUR setup is
[02:10] <L3d> im not shure how amny links were made with wine ...
[02:10] <OerHeks> netninja, swap not in use means ready, but not in use yet.
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> L3d: after you add the deb, run:  sudo apt-get update    and the site will work as needed
[02:11] <netninja> ActionParsnip: I have a line in fstab which says "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0"
[02:11] <netninja> OerHeks: I have no idea what that means
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> netninja: oh you used encryptfs?
[02:11] <netninja> OerHeks: oh, I getcha
[02:11] <anadon> i'm trying to print off a giant image from my standard printer.  How do I do this?
[02:11] <netninja> ActionParsnip: perhaps?  Not sure what that is
[02:11] <netninja> how about, what's the easiest way to get just a basic, nonencrpyted, non complicated swapspace so I can hibernate?
[02:12] <netninja> I have a 9gig partition ready for swap
[02:12] <L3d> ok i get it a litle ,hoping it will overwrite whaevr it did first ..
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> netninja: its a secure file system, you manually choose it at install time, it's not default
[02:12] <netninja> I didn't know swap could be so complicated
[02:12] <HQRaja> Know of any IRC client for Ubuntu that's as close to mIRC on Windows as it gets?
[02:12] <netninja> ActionParsnip: the only secure thing I picked was for my /home directory, not for this swap thing; regardless, I seem to have it on, so how might I fix my fugup? :/
[02:12] <ring2> HQRaja, xchat
[02:12] <L3d> so thaty did change after all heh
[02:13] <HQRaja> ring2: Using it right now but kinda feel some lack
[02:13] <ring2> HQRaja, lack of what?
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> netninja: if you encrypt it, then it can be a bit more complex
[02:13] <HQRaja> ring2: Like the dead-simple alias/popups/scripting of mIRC for starters
[02:13] <OerHeks> netninja, no swap on an encrypted filesystem is a security measure. you don't want a burglar recreate your data.
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> netninja: maybe you need to run:  sudo swapon /dev/partitionname
[02:14]  * netninja checks, and thanks :)
[02:14] <HQRaja> But perhaps that's because I haven't really explored all the options of XChat yet?
[02:14] <netninja> I'd really like it to not be encrypted, the swapfile... I could care less.
[02:14] <itscool> netninja: sudo swapon -s
[02:14] <L3d> righto connecting :)
[02:14] <itscool> netninja: if that returns a result table your swap is active
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> netninja: encryptfs causes too many headaches imho
[02:15] <sp4z> anyone got bf2 working in ubuntu?
[02:15] <netninja> Parsnip: I only meant to encrypt my home directory
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> sp4z: what is bf2?
[02:15] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: all enc couses to many headackes lol
[02:15] <sp4z> battlefield 2
[02:15] <netninja> Parsnip: swapon: /dev/sda6: read swap header failed: Invalid argument
[02:15] <L3d> ehh ehats this Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/rexbron/bugfixes/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | sp4z
[02:15] <HQRaja> BTW speaking of swap...does one need swap with 4GB RAM, when one never even utilizes 3GB out of that?
[02:16] <ztag100> does wine really work well?
[02:16] <sp4z> already checked there - punkbuster doesn't work. wondering if anyone has it working via VM or something
[02:16] <gogeta> ztag100: when it fells like it
[02:16] <itscool> netninja: run less /etc/fstab and see if you even  have a swap partition
[02:16] <stinkfist> hi guys so
[02:16] <ztag100> gogeta thats what I heard
[02:16] <stinkfist> pinging is not working
[02:16] <ztag100> It works when it likes to
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> sp4z: it will perform badly in a VM
[02:16] <gogeta> sp4z: yes most anticheat does not work on wine being there pretty mutch rootkits
[02:17] <CaptAnon> How do I choose the right display in terminal?
[02:17] <netninja> itscool: I do, posted earlier, lemme do it again
[02:17] <stinkfist> can anyone help me with my wireless setup?
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> stinkfist: details please
[02:17] <ztag100> hmm... how big do you guys think the stickers at the bottom of a computer are?
[02:17] <L3d> ill remove those lines first right ?
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> CaptAnon: right display in what sense?
[02:17] <netninja> itscool: /dev/mapper/cryptswap none swap sw 0 0
[02:17] <itscool> stinkfist: use mtr, it's better than ping in many regards.
[02:18] <netninja> itscool et. al: but I didn't intend for it to be encrypted
[02:18] <sp4z> actionparsnip, gogeta: so pretty much have to run windows for it then?
[02:18] <raven> how to control cpu frequency by cmd
[02:18] <ztag100> I want to make one with the ubuntu logo instead
[02:18] <netninja> if I just remount it as /dev/sda6, would I be able to use it unencrypted?
[02:18] <CaptAnon> When im in Ctrl Alt F3
[02:18] <stinkfist> actionparsnip I downloaded the drivers wireless for my laptop
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> L3d: the ppa only supports natty, I suggest you remove it
[02:18] <gogeta> ztag100: wine had a relly nice relese for a wile but has sence gone downhill
[02:18] <stinkfist> it shows in my taskbard that im connected
[02:18] <CaptAnon> I want to open a program I need to choose a screen or something?
[02:18] <stinkfist> but when i open firefox it doesnt load pages
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> sp4z: yep, blame the devs for not suporting linux
[02:18] <ztag100> hmm.. good to know
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> stinkfist: which wifi chip?
[02:18] <stinkfist> Broadcomp
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> stinkfist: can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[02:19] <itscool> netninja: remove that entry and then check your partition setup and see if you still have a partition set aside for swap. then if you do, turn it into swap with 'mkswap <device' and then issue the command 'swapon' to active it.
[02:19] <gogeta> sp4z: yea and anything dx11 will need windows anyways wines fails hard at dc11
[02:19] <gogeta> dx11
[02:19] <stinkfist> ill try
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> stinkfist: there is a native broadcom driver, you don't need anything manually downloading from the web
[02:19] <itscool> netninja: also, maybe you should update that entry to point to the swap partition itself.
[02:19] <CaptAnon> the terminal says "cannot open display"
[02:19] <stinkfist> it says network is unreachable
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> CaptAnon: is it a GUI app?
[02:20] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: anticheat is like a rootkit wine can never work with them kernel level hacks
[02:20] <klj613> how can i make any files uploaded by a specific user automatically have ownership theuser:www-data ? i asked this earlier not sure if it had any responses
[02:20] <CaptAnon> I think so.
[02:20] <netninja> itscool: I just edited fstab to be "/dev/sda6 none swap sw 0 0" and I'm hoping this would work; does that seem right?
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: sure but a native app will work well
[02:20] <netninja> itscool: assuming I'm right that sda6 is swap, which it is? :)
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | stinkfist
[02:20] <sp4z> gogeta, bf2 is dx9c
[02:20] <itscool> netninja: yeah that sounds great, now do swapon and then swapon -s to see if you succeeded.
[02:20] <stinkfist> im using ubuntu 10.04 i downloaded the drivers from the software center. Also I cant ping 8.8.8.8
[02:20] <stinkfist> thank you ubottu
[02:20] <L3d> ok i added this line yeah another one ,sudo apt-add-repository ppa:rexbron/bugfixes .. gues thats all
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> stinkfist: can you ping the internal IP of your router?
[02:21] <gogeta> sp4z: it will run but punkbuster will not
[02:21] <itscool> stinkfist: are you using the same box to talk on irc with us?
[02:21] <netninja> itscool: rebooting
[02:21] <determinology> i neeed help on getting ubuntu R8168 driver
[02:21] <sp4z> yeah ok thanks
[02:21] <L3d> dont know why but vaapi demanded it
[02:21] <itscool> netninja: you didn't really have to do that. :)
[02:21] <stinkfist> erm Actionparsnip how can i find my internal ip. is it the local loop address?
[02:21] <raven> how to control cpu frequency by cmd
[02:21] <stinkfist> itscool no you see my internet works fine with ethernet
[02:22] <stinkfist> when i disconnect ethernet my wireless isnt working
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> stinkfist: no, it's the IP of the config page of the router, most home grade routers use 192.168.0.1
[02:22] <itscool> stinkfist: oh ok. is your broadcom usb or pci or internal?
[02:22] <CaptAnon> display=1 or somthing like it I think?
[02:22] <stinkfist> alright i found it using show ip im going to try to ping it :) brb
[02:22] <gogeta> itscool: brodcom shoudl work out of the box
[02:22] <gogeta> should
[02:23] <itscool> gogeta: not always, i've found that with ubu i have had to reinstall it on many occasions
[02:23] <netninja> itscool: well, "swapon" and then "swapon -s" didn't work; "swapon" by itself demanded arguments, so I figured restarting was best
[02:23] <itscool> netninja: i should have mentioned to sudo it
[02:24] <gogeta> itscool: my old pcima on my c610 dell works out of the box
[02:24] <stinkfist> um its says network is unreachable when i try to ping my home grade routers
[02:24] <netninja> itscool: I did :)
[02:24] <netninja> itscool: well, now there is *no* swapfile
[02:24] <itscool> gogeta: depends on which broadcom it is then i reckon.
[02:25] <itscool> netninja: is the partition you told it, was it formatted as swap?
[02:25] <itscool> netninja: it must be a dedicated partition. can't be shared with something else.
[02:25] <itscool> do sudo mkswap <device>
[02:25] <netninja> itscool: it was once formatted for swap, I'll format it again, and yes, it's a 9gig all by itself (I have 8gb ram, so I went 9gb swapfile for hibernate)
[02:25]  * netninja formats
[02:26] <itscool> netninja: ie>> mkswap /dev/sda3
[02:26] <gogeta> netninja: lol 9gb swap
[02:26] <gogeta> netninja: hibernate does not use swap btw
[02:26] <netninja> gogets: I have 8gb ram; larger than ram is required for swap for hibernate.  why are you lulzing?
[02:26] <netninja> gogets: I and Parsnip think differently
[02:26] <itscool> netninja: dear god man. I hibernate with a 4gb swap and loads of spare room left over. what you are you hibernating?
[02:27] <tofa> Hi, I need to update from ubuntu 10.04 32 bit to a 64 bit ubuntu OS is there someway of doing this from within ubuntu?
[02:27] <netninja> itscool: do yu understand what hibernate does?
[02:27] <gogeta> itscool: i hibernate with 1gb swap
[02:27] <gogeta> itscool: my system has 8gb ram
[02:27] <itscool> netninja: yes i do
[02:27] <itscool> netninja: i know the difference between it and sleeping as well
[02:27] <netninja> oh neat.  that's great.
[02:27] <netninja> so do I
[02:28]  * itscool leaps for joy!
[02:28] <stinkfist> itscool my broadcom is internal. i think. it came with my laptop.
[02:28] <netninja> so "what I'm hibernating" isn't really a valid question, then, is it?
[02:28] <keithzg> tofa: not so easily, but as long as you keep a separate /home partition (or at least back it up) it shouldn't be too hard to just reinstall but have everything act like nothing much happened ;)
[02:28] <netninja> since it writes RAM to disk?
[02:28] <stinkfist> also Actionparsnip i cant ping my home grade routers
[02:28] <netninja> so, what's being hibernated will change every time...
[02:28] <gogeta> netninja: hibernate is a snapshot of the whole running prosses and sent to disk
[02:28] <L3d> its wierd i have extras and 3rd  pary but its all updates :)
[02:29] <tofa> keithzg: So how would I do that?
[02:29] <gogeta> netninja: maybe your thinking sleep thats to ram
[02:29] <netninja> gogets: yes, you're right, so... what does that have to do with "what are you hibernating?"
[02:29] <itscool> netninja: it is because i'm curious as to what you have that comprises 9gb of state that needs saving so your can turn your machine off, ship it to jupiter station 2 and restart it later after the red dwarf docks with port authority there. :) dude. I am a cat.
[02:29]  * netninja bangs head off desk
[02:29] <netninja> I know what sleep is
[02:29] <netninja> I didn't say it writes to ram
[02:29] <netninja> I said it writes ram to disk
[02:29] <L3d> the update works from the console cool ,thnx actionman :D
[02:30] <L3d> lol
[02:30] <gogeta> netninja: yea but not in the fasion you think
[02:30] <netninja> gogets: the only thing I'm not aware of is *where* it writes to disk (swap vs fs), which really, I don't care.
[02:30] <L3d> some real action ..
[02:30] <gogeta> netninja: just whats running
[02:30] <gogeta> netninja: it goes directly into the fs
[02:31] <netninja> gogeta: I don't care what fashion it writes, I'd like it to work again; it stopped working when I upgraded my ram from 2gb to 8gb, and apparently my swap got fucked up as well.
[02:31] <netninja> I'm less concerned with the specifics of something indirectly related to the actual problem, as I am to fixing the problem.
[02:31] <gogeta> netninja: oh its broken?
[02:31] <L3d> laters pps and thnx for the help ,cant wait for the new version ,gona try buying it with a mag
[02:32] <netninja> so getting hung up on where it writes to, I don't really care as much about as fixing the fact that it just *does* *not* *hibernate*
[02:32] <toxed> why dosent banshee close on xfce wen exited upon ?
[02:32] <gogeta> netninja: hibernate can be quite large in some cases
[02:32] <L3d> do i need ubuntu server for my dual xeon server hpx4000
[02:32] <itscool> netninja: easiest thing to do is back up the home partition, and create an install file from your synaptic. reload your ubu of choice. drop in your home partition during install and reload from  your synaptic file aftewards. but you won't discover anything that way.
[02:32] <gogeta> netninja: maybe to big and you run out of fs space
[02:32] <CaptAnon> Can anyone help me open a program in terminal Can not open display
[02:33] <netninja> gogeta: well, I have 40gb available on the fs, with just 8gig of stuff on the disk, an 8gig swap (which is now disabled), and 8gig of ram
[02:33] <gogeta> netninja: humm
[02:33] <netninja> so unless 8gig of ram plus 8gig of files running very few system files takes up more than 40gb, that's not the issue, I'm afraid
[02:33] <e75> how can i change the device for sound output from the cli?
[02:33] <netninja> yeah, humm :(
[02:34] <L3d> how does ubuntu server work ,is it bette for my server hpx4000 ?
[02:34] <netninja> again, this all works fine until I upgraded to 8gb of ram from 2; ram checked out fine
[02:34] <L3d> faster than/
[02:34] <itscool> L3d: are you using your machine for file serving or as a workstation or as a gaming platform?
[02:35] <L3d> moslty games but i dl allot and make some funky music ehh
[02:35] <L3d> damn my spellngs bad ..
[02:36] <L3d> jsut think there are diff drivers like windows :s
[02:36] <Artemis3> netninja, did you do memtest after installing the ram?
[02:36] <netninja> yes
[02:36] <itscool> L3d: then you don't want 'server' that for things like file serving, apache and other stuff of an enterprise network nature. stick with the standard ubuntu for gaming.
[02:36] <Artemis3> netninja, you let a whole pass go perfectly?
[02:36] <netninja> Artemis3: just a few hours ago as well
[02:36] <netninja> Artemis3: yes, took almost 3 hours
[02:37] <itscool> L3d: no, but if you are having driver issues please let us know as we might be able to help you solve the problems. :)
[02:37] <L3d> dont wana begin talking about windows here hehe
[02:37] <Artemis3> netninja, actually i have 8g of ram and no swap so that shouldn't be a problem
[02:38] <itscool> L3d: oh, so you are finally fed up with bg trying to get you ready w8 and now you want to go Ubuntu? Yeah just do the standard desktop edition. you'll be fine.
[02:38] <L3d> well im doingthat survay thing with the upd manager ,and i like this cjat altho it is very busy :p
[02:38] <netninja> woah, crazy! - since blowing up my swap just a minute ago, now Hibernate isn't even an option any more
[02:38] <itscool> don't bother with 64bit support, it's still weak. unless someone here says otherwise.
[02:38] <Artemis3> netninja, ok, if you want to hibernate, as opposed to suspend, your swap must be a little bigger than your ram
[02:38] <L3d> aargh chat
[02:39] <lhasa> personally i just turn off the monitor :|
[02:39] <L3d> im on 32 with one or 2 64 pci sluts
[02:39] <somsip> itscool: otherwise
[02:39] <itscool> L3d: well there you go, someone says otherwise.
[02:39] <OerHeks> itscool next release will be 64 bit recommended
[02:39] <netninja> Artemis3: yes, I'm aware of that, and yet, people in this forum keep saying that and then the opposite of that; I've always believed that was true
[02:39] <somsip> itscool: :)
[02:40] <netninja> Artemis3: however, there are plenty of people in this channel that say this is not true with apparent self-examples :(
[02:40] <itscool> somsip: OerHeks: you guys saying the flash issue with 64 bit has been resolved?
[02:40] <Artemis3> netninja, you swap should something like 8,1g, or perhaps 8,01g
[02:40] <OerHeks> Artemis3 is right, swap needs to be bigger than ram to store more pointers
[02:40] <L3d> know what i like ,no more bad driver updates and the likes with this xfx card weeee
[02:41] <L3d> seesya
[02:41] <somsip> itscool: just connected here and it worked
[02:41] <somsip> itscool: gah...http://www.wechoosethemoon.org/
[02:41] <OerHeks> itscool, no, 64 bit will be recommended, not about flash at all.
[02:41] <netninja> Artemis3: I'm formatting it for swap now at 9gb.
[02:41] <L3d> otherwise
[02:41] <Artemis3> netninja, should do.
[02:41] <OerHeks> flash is dying anyway
[02:42] <yogu> why?
[02:42] <itscool> somsip: OerHeks: I'll keep that in mind when i build my next beastie as my last beastie died 3 days ago and now i'm using this old sempron frankie.
[02:42] <L3d> went to the movie apollo 18 a day before my birth day ,wen it came out =)
[02:42] <quixotedon> why can't we use novell moonlight on the latest version of firefox??
[02:43] <somsip> itscool: isn't there a thing about Semprons not being great with 64bit OS, or did I fream it...
[02:43] <L3d> my resolution is so high ,i need a break too lolz
[02:44] <somsip> *dream
[02:44] <xangua> quixotedon: http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/ you can from there
[02:45] <L3d> google is in everything with its statistics ,how come ?
[02:45] <L3d> do i have a google lso ?
[02:47] <L3d> so its like some streaming thing ?
[02:47] <L3d> i lost it all with the changes in winamp except somafm.com
[02:47] <quixotedon> xangua: thanks a bunch
[02:48] <the_truth> hello
[02:49] <OerHeks> i thought winamp is for windows, L3d
[02:49] <the_truth> does anyone have a reccomendation for anti-virus?
[02:49] <the_truth> or some type of security?
[02:49] <xangua> !antivirus | the_truth
[02:50] <OerHeks> iptables will be enough the_truth
[02:50] <L3d> weeknie
[02:51] <the_truth> thanx for the help
[02:51] <netninja> weird - the swap partition needs to be formatted, isn't loaded as swap right now, but I can't format it since something has a lock on it.  I'm booting into livecd to format the partition and fstab is already updated to reflect the swap on startup
[02:51] <the_truth> is there any way to recover files after a reformatting?
[02:52] <itscool> the_truth: in linux you can use photorec from another linux like a live cd, and on windows there are loads of options.
[02:53] <the_truth> the files were on a previous ubuntu
[02:54] <itscool> the_truth: meaning, you are on the new ubuntu which was installed ontop of the old ubuntu?
[02:54] <ilearnz> Hello
[02:54] <nomad> ls
[02:54] <HQRaja> rm
[02:54] <the_truth> i had made a copy of the partition and it got erased
[02:55] <L3d_> meh
[02:55] <ilearnz> any1 know how to fix microphones(built in) i thinking drivers arent here or w.e i not sure
[02:55] <L3d_> so can i watch cartoon network and adult swim on this ?
[02:55] <itscool> the_truth: did you write anything to the erased partition yet?
[02:56] <the_truth> well ubuntu now is the whole hdd
[02:56] <itscool> ilearnz: under sound preferences. is the mic unmuted? if so, in terminal try 'alsamixer' to unmute the mic.
[02:56] <MoeJoebloe> Hey guy's saw this spammed earlier what the heck is it? http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[02:56] <HQRaja> So you have already installed the OS on the partition after erasing it?
[02:56] <itscool> the_truth: how long has it been
[02:56] <the_truth> days
[02:56] <the_truth> 3
[02:57] <itscool> ugh, you are looking at a long time like maybe 5 days if you stop right now and use another method of accessing the system to recover the files just recover 90% chance of gibberish.
[02:58] <OerHeks> please don'y spam MoeJoebloe nice try though
[02:58] <the_truth> how would i recover any of it?
[02:59] <itscool> on linux like say from another linux system with drive mounted into it you could do it with 'photorec'
[02:59] <jtokarchuk> someone lose a drive?
[02:59] <the_truth> where can i get that?
[03:00] <jtreminio> Hello - how do I unmap CTRL + Q to close the current application?
[03:00] <itscool> or you could put the drive into a windows machine and use runtime.org's recovery software on it.
[03:00] <the_truth> I  lost a partition by re-installing ubuntu
[03:00] <jtokarchuk> jtreminio, open dash, run keyboard, change it in shortcut
[03:00] <jtokarchuk> s
[03:01] <jtreminio> jtokarchuk, attempting to remap ALT + Q in that gui closes the gui.
[03:01] <jtokarchuk> jtreminio, ironic, eh
[03:01] <quixotedon> xangua: moonlight could not be installed because it's not compatible with firefox 8.0
[03:01] <SultansElephant> partioning is for nerds
[03:01] <quixotedon> xangua: this is what i've been experiencing actually :)
[03:01] <SultansElephant> wipe it babby
[03:02] <itscool> the_truth: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[03:02] <cane99> Need to extended a network from a drop that goes back to my switch, issue is they had a pair of wireless device devices what were super old that was extending it.
[03:02] <cane99> I'd like put one wireless router and patch it to the drop and plug the another 50yrds aways that extends the network.
[03:02] <the_truth> jtokarchuk I lost all my data after re-installing Ubuntu and would like to know how to recover them
[03:03] <jtokarchuk> the_truth: how important was this data
[03:03] <itscool> the_truth: from terminal do> sudo apt-get install testdisk
[03:03] <itscool> the_truth: then follow instructions from that website.
[03:03] <funnyfingers> any plans for Ubunto to use systemd?
[03:03] <the_truth> jtokarchuk on a scale of 1-10 a 8.5
[03:04] <jtokarchuk> if it's that important, you should probably send it for recovery. Using it right now is burying your files deeper.
[03:04] <AdminSetup> Hi...I want an application to run continuously....Though it crashes I want it to restart...Any idea to what to do ?
[03:05] <the_truth> i also believe that the root user security loop hole was taken advantage of too
[03:05] <the_truth> how can i be sure it wasnt?
[03:06] <xxiao> anyone used fcoe-utils under ubuntu?
[03:07] <crazytrane> AdminSetup, check out monit
[03:07] <the_truth> i also believe that the root user security loop hole was taken advantage of too
[03:07] <zZGz_> wait what
[03:07] <xxiao> the fcoe initiator on 11.10 is not working at all
[03:07] <AdminSetup> crazytrane : What is it ????
[03:09] <funnyfingers> AdminSetup - you can have a cron job that reads the PID file and then checks for that pid.  Also it could just run the init.d script for the status and react accordingly.
[03:10] <netninja> ok, how can I get rid of "cryptsetup"?
[03:10] <netninja> I don't want that on my laptop, it's causing way too many problems
[03:10] <jonathon_> Strange flash issue. 10.04, Chrome and Chromium will not play embedded flash videos (on Facebook specifically.) Reads "need update." Will play videos on youtube. Everything works in Firefox.
[03:10] <crazytrane> AdminSetup: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/11/monit-install-config/
 Thanks... ;)
[03:14] <crazytrane> no prob, monit is pretty sweet
[03:16] <the_truth> How do i get photorec to run?
[03:20] <cane99> Need to extend my network in a warehouse. I have a drop in the middle of the warehouse but not one 50yrds away.
[03:20] <matin> hello
[03:20] <cane99> Someone had some very old AP's but now they aren't working
[03:21] <the_truth> How do I get photorec to run i cant get it too run
[03:21] <bowecho> the_truth:  I would recommend reading this link off of their site: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step
[03:21] <cane99> anyone setup wireless bridge in here?
[03:21] <bowecho> It will walk you through it step by step
[03:21] <matin> does anyone know how to set up svn on ubuntu 10.04?
[03:22] <matin> I'm having some troubles, if someone could help me
[03:22] <the_truth> I cant get it too run it says cannot find dile
[03:22] <the_truth> file
[03:24] <the_truth> Ubuntu is linux correct? Not OSx
[03:25] <mazda01> the_truth, ah, yes
[03:25] <beatbreaker> the_truth, lol
[03:25] <the_truth> is there any reason I wouldnt be able to access or add to my base file system?
[03:26] <beatbreaker> the_truth, what do you mean? on boot?
[03:26] <the_truth> im new to this im sorry but i need help and dont care if i look like a noob
[03:26] <beatbreaker> the_truth, please explain the full problem
[03:26] <the_truth> i mean from click n drag too the file system
[03:27] <aeon-ltd> the_truth: because you don't have permission to if it's outside your /home
[03:27] <aeon-ltd> the_truth: for example the stuff in /etc /usr
[03:27] <beatbreaker> so you're in ubuntu, and you click and drag a folder form the desktop to somewhere else, and it doesn't copy?
[03:27] <matin> so does anyone know how to set up subversion?
[03:27] <the_truth> The whole problem is im trying to recover files from my previous version of ubuntu and Im goin crazy tryin ta figure it out
[03:27] <mazda01> the_truth, ubuntu runs on the linux kernel where as OSX runs on XNU which has with much of BSD's code in the kernel
[03:28] <beatbreaker> matin, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=setup+subversion
[03:28] <matin> funny
[03:28] <aeon-ltd> matin: try #svn
[03:28] <matin> i meant that i need help
[03:28] <mazda01> the_truth, check out a live cd like system rescue which has dd_rescue on it. very cool stuff
[03:29] <the_truth> photorec system rescue ahhhh how do i do all this?
[03:29] <mazda01> the_truth, i personally have a 16GB usb stick which has multi-boot on it which allows me to boot into ubuntu, system rescue, amongst other things. it's great for data recovery
[03:30] <mazda01> the_truth, just many many others before you learned how to do it. Use google and start reading.
[03:30] <the_truth> I have been.... *sigh F(_)[K
[03:31] <Flannel> the_truth: Please mind the language, thanks.
[03:32] <the_truth> my bad frustrated!
[03:32] <mazda01> the_truth, ok, take a deep breath. LOL  I will link you to a great tutorial. let me find it.
[03:32] <Flannel> !undelete | the_truth
[03:33] <StepNjump> Does anyone know how to connect to this server here through weechat-curses?
[03:33] <SultansElephant> i think the_truth should get credit for his ascii like filters
[03:33] <matin> ok so no one is responding on #svn
[03:33] <mazda01> SultansElephant, i agree. LOL
[03:33] <Flannel> the_truth: Except don't put a lot of faith in those working.  But it is theoretically possible.  First thing you need to do is ABSOLUTELY STOP using the drive in question.
[03:33] <Flannel> beatbreaker: LMGTFY is not acceptable in this channel.
[03:33] <mazda01> the_truth, YEAP, listen to funnel for sure! stop accessing the disk completely
[03:34] <Flannel> matin: What are you having trouble with?
[03:34] <matin> permissions
[03:34] <matin> & well setting it up
[03:34] <matin> haha
[03:34] <the_truth> Thanx... N thats this drive could i clear the part that the partition was on?
[03:34] <matin> Flannel: i followed tutorials
[03:34] <matin> and it still wasn't working
[03:34] <Flannel> matin: Are you following a guide?  Are you trying to set up a server? just to use it as a client?
[03:34] <beatbreaker> Flannel, sorry
[03:34] <matin> I'm setting up a server
[03:34] <mazda01> the_truth, you will want to use system rescue to create an "image" of the drive, then you will fiddle with that to see what data you can recover. this way , you aren't accessing the disk BUT only that one time to create an image with dd_rescue
[03:34] <Flannel> matin: Alright, which tutorial? just so I know what steps they're having you go through
[03:35] <mazda01> the_truth, go to the other channel, much easier to help ya
[03:36] <stepnjump2> ok, nevermind... I found it
[03:37] <stepnjump2> This is a test
[03:37] <stepnjump2> Anybody familiar with weechat
[03:37] <matin> Flannel, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-subversion-with-web-access-on-ubuntu/
[03:38] <aeon-ltd> StepNjump: they are in #weechat :)
[03:38] <netninja> can anyone help me uninstall cryptsetup?  I apparently installed it by accident and I feel like it's causing all kinds of problems
[03:38] <J101> Does anyone know how to move the window controls to the right side instead of the left. I think I'm in Gnome panel, but Unity is still installed because everythig broke and I had to reinstall when I tried removing it
[03:39] <J101> the close button, etc
[03:39] <giiker> anyone knows how to transfer file from a Mac to ubuntu?
[03:39] <Flannel> matin: Alright.  In general howtogeek is a horrible place for accurate tutorials (for Debian based systems, they tend to do things the RPM based way), but this one looks pretty accurate (mostly because its straightforward).  What steps are you having trouble with? or just "get to end, stuff don't work"?
[03:40] <netninja> giiker: can you mount the machd on the local machine?
[03:40] <matin> haha ok Flannel
[03:40] <netninja> giiker: if they're seperate machines and you just need to move some files, use dropbox :)
[03:40] <matin> well now i just tried to import, svn import /home/fouad/public_html file:///triumph
[03:40] <giiker> I tried the T mode, but apparently I need somepackages to read the MAC filesystem
[03:40] <matin> svn server is triumph on root
[03:41] <matin> when i try to import
[03:41] <giiker> matin: the file I need is 6 GB
[03:41] <matin> svn: Can't open file '/triumph/db/fs-type': Permission denied
[03:41] <netninja> giiker: you can mount easily a linuxfs on the mac, and transfer it that way
[03:42] <netninja> (I'm assuming they're networked?)
[03:42] <Flannel> matin: Alright.  That makes sense, now that I take a second look at that tutorial.  Let me ask, is your intent to do this via apache? (http(s):// links) or do you not care what protocol?  Do you want/need the apache browsing ability?
[03:42] <matin> this is my first time using subversion
[03:42] <giiker> netninja: you mean with nfs maybe?
[03:42] <matin> my objective is to subversion my website
[03:42] <netninja> giiker: what is your linux filesystem?
[03:43] <netninja> giiker: and are both machines networked, as in, visible to each other on the network?
[03:43] <giiker> netninja: ext4
[03:43] <Flannel> matin: Right.  So, you're already running apache on this machine (or don't mind running it if you're not already)?
[03:43] <matin> yeah
[03:43] <matin> it's ubuntu 10.04
[03:43] <netninja> giiker: http://okomestudio.net/biboroku/?p=1429
[03:43] <netninja> giiker: try that
[03:43] <giiker> netninja: I can netwrok them together
[03:44] <Flannel> matin: Alright, just a couple more questions.  Do you intend for this to be local-LAN only? or visible from the outside world?
[03:45] <matin> outside world
[03:45] <matin> i have that set up
[03:45] <matin> http://playtriumph.tk/
[03:45] <Flannel> matin: over http or https or both?
[03:45] <giiker> netninja: reading it now, thanks!!
[03:45] <matin> i have no idea
[03:45] <matin> if you could please explain the purpose of hem
[03:45] <matin> them
[03:45] <matin> i understand https is secure
[03:47] <Hilarie> what would cause uptime to show high numbers while top doesn't show anything is using much cpu?
[03:48] <Flannel> matin: Well, currently you're serving stuff over http but not https.  The only thing about this with regard to your svn is it means your passwords would be transmitted in plaintext.
[03:48] <matin> meh, nothing too important
[03:49] <matin> ill just stick with http for now
[03:49] <Flannel> matin: I suggest you make sure to use a different svn password than your regular user account password.  Just be congizant of it :)
[03:50] <matin> lol
[03:50] <tr3es> How do I change the size for the top bar in Ubuntu 11.10?
[03:50] <Flannel> matin: So, lets make this work.  From that tutorial, I think you have a /svn directory, is this true?
[03:50] <matin> YEAH
[03:50] <matin> oops
[03:50] <matin> yeah*
[03:51] <netninja> wow
[03:51] <Flannel> matin: Alright, lets go ahead and delete that.  We have to re-create the repository anyway, so the least we can do is do it in a non-obnoxious location.
[03:51] <matin> sure
[03:51] <netninja> no matter what I do, I cannot seem to salvage this ubuntu install to get it to hibernate, suspend, or use a swapfile
[03:51] <matin> I'm also new to linux
[03:51] <matin> …so how do i do that?
[03:51]  * netninja contemplates reformatting/reinstalling
[03:51] <Flannel> matin: I'll come back to that, give me a sec.
[03:51] <matin> sure
[03:52] <Flannel> matin: Do you have /var on a separate (large) partition, because you're expecting to put a lot of stuff in /var/www? or do we just have one partition with everything on it?
[03:52] <matin> well
[03:52] <matin> i moved html directory from /var/www
[03:52] <matin> to /home/fouad/public_html
[03:52] <Flannel> matin: ... why did you do that?
[03:53] <matin> idk
[03:53] <tr3es> How do I change the size for the top bar in Ubuntu 11.10? Anyone?
[03:53] <netninja> matin: are you planning on using this system with a lot of other people, or just yourself?
[03:53] <matin> sorry tries, i don't use ubuntu
[03:53] <matin> netninja, by myself
[03:53] <Flannel> matin: No worries, everyone is new at some point :)
[03:53] <netninja> matin: was there a need to move this directory?
[03:53] <matin> netninja, nope :)
[03:54] <matin> seemed like a good idea
[03:54] <Flannel> matin: Alright.  I'm not going to deal with that at the moment, but go ahead and pastebin the output of `df -h` (pastebin is http://planet.ubuntu.com/, you paste output, hit 'submit' then give the url here for us to look at)
[03:54] <netninja> matin: and what are you trying to do exactly?  like, what are you using the /var/www/html or /home/you/whatever directory for, just your apache, right?
[03:54] <Flannel> matin: Er, sorry. paste.ubuntu.com
[03:55] <matin> netninja yeah
[03:55] <matin> and it's working
[03:55] <matin> http://playtriumph.tk
[03:55] <matin> Flannel, any directory?
[03:55] <netninja> matin: sorry, I guess I"m confused as to your specific problem?
[03:55] <Flannel> matin: just `df -h`
[03:55] <Flannel> netninja: Setting up subversion server.
[03:55] <matin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761225/
[03:56] <matin> netninja, I'm trying to set up an svn
[03:56] <matin> i guess this is one of the drawbacks of learning coding on webhosts
[03:56] <Flannel> matin: Alright, so we've just got everything in /, which is fine.  We're still going to put /svn in /var though, because that's where it belongs.  (There is no standard here, other than /var for variable sized data)
[03:56] <netninja> matin: you're setting up svn into your html directory for your website?
[03:56]  * netninja shuts up, Flannel obviously has this one :)
[03:56] <matin> lol
[03:57] <matin> ok so how do i move it
[03:57] <matin> just svnadmin?
[03:57] <Flannel> matin: Personally, I made a /var/devel/ which I then put /svn/ and other things in, but you're free to just create it in /var/svn/
[03:57] <matin> i cd'd into var
[03:57] <matin> then i just do svnadmin create /svn?
[03:58] <Flannel> matin: No, we're not moving, we're going to delete the old one: `sudo rm -r /svn` (Be very careful with that, you don't want a space in between '/' and 'svn')
[03:58] <Flannel> matin: No
[03:58] <matin> alright deleted
[03:58] <matin> lol yeah deleting / would be pretty bad
[03:58] <Resistance> Flannel:  PM for a sec?
[03:59] <Flannel> Resistance: Always.
[03:59] <Flannel> matin: Alright, now go ahead and make a svn folder, sudo mkdir /var/svn/ if you want it in /var/svn/ (for example, mine is /var/devel/svn/)
[04:00] <matin> alright
[04:00] <matin> i just stuck with /var/svn
[04:00] <SachinDey> I installed Ocelot yesterday and i don't see the GRUB before it startup, Grub   did install
[04:01] <Flannel> matin: That's fine.  Ok.  So, in our head we realize we have to update the apache config to point there, which we'll do in a minute.  Right now, I need to ask: Is this going to be your only svn repository? or do you think you'll have an immediate need for more than one?
[04:01] <Resistance> SachinDey:  if there's no other OSes, you wont see grub usually
[04:01] <matin> nope
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> SachinDey: if you hold shift at boot, do you see grub then?
[04:01] <matin> only this one
[04:01] <Flannel> matin: We can add more later, of course, so you're not really locked in, but we can do it for "1" now or for "many" now (with a little bit more work)
[04:01] <Flannel> matin: Alright, good.
[04:02] <Flannel> matin: Alright, I'd normally say we're ready to create it, but before, I feel compelled to ask: did you change the default user/group that apache runs as?
[04:02] <matin> ...
[04:02] <matin> is there a way to check?
[04:02] <Flannel> matin: this would consist of replacing `www-data` with $something-else in your apache config.
[04:03] <matin> i feel as if a tutorial told me to
[04:03] <Flannel> matin: This is why I asked :)  Also, did I mention howtogeek is a rotten place for tutorials yet? :)
[04:03] <matin> haha
[04:04] <SachinDey> I see it now, thanks ActionParship
[04:04] <SachinDey> Its just a solo linux machine, Resistance
[04:04] <Flannel> matin: If you didn't change anything, /etc/apache2/envvars would list it, BUT since you may have hardcoded it, we'll need to probably check /etc/apache2/apache2.conf.  So, the command to do that:
[04:05] <matin> nano /etc/apache2/apache2.conf?
[04:05] <Flannel> matin: Nah, we'll use grep, it's easier!
[04:05] <matin> ah ok
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> SachinDey: if its only Ubuntu then Grub won't show as there isn't really much need, you can use the shift trick if you need recovery mode or an older kernel to boot
[04:05] <matin> so just sudo grep /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[04:06] <Flannel> matin: Let me pause this, because this is a teaching moment.
[04:06] <matin> sure
[04:07] <Flannel> matin: So, `sudo` is only used when you need elevated permissions.  MOST (not all, but probably 99%) config files are world readable, so there's no reason to sudo nano /etc/apache2/apache2.conf (unless you intend to change something) or sudo grep /etc/whatever
[04:07] <matin> oh
[04:07] <SachinDey> One of the good thing about Ocelot is, the 10 seconds start up
[04:08] <Flannel> matin: Its not the end of the world, most of the time sudo X will work just fine, but it can cause problems, and certainly can lead to accidental changes :)
[04:08] <matin> ah ok
[04:08] <Flannel> matin: anyway, the command you can pastebin the output to is: grep User /etc/apache2/apache2.conf && grep Group /etc/apache2/apache2.conf && grep www-data /etc/apache2/envvars
[04:08] <matin> thank you
[04:08] <Flannel> matin: All on one line (command1 && command2 && command3 means 'do command1, then if it has no errors, do command2, and the same with command3)
[04:09] <matin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761237/
[04:09] <bowikaxu_> hello, anyone who can recommend a tutorial, doc, forum, etc ... on ubuntu orchestra server?
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> SachinDey: if boot time impresses you, try xpud. Boots in 3 seconds here
[04:09] <matin> oh
[04:09] <bowikaxu_> can't create node servers :-S
[04:09] <DroidInc> can i use grid with gnome3?
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> DroidInc: sure, enable it
[04:09] <Flannel> matin: So that command looked first for the string 'User' in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, then it looked for 'Group' in the same file, and then the last command looked for 'www-data' in /etc/apache2/envvars
[04:09] <DroidInc> under compiz?
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> DroidInc: yes, in ccsm
[04:10] <Flannel> matin: The first two told me you haven't hard coded the values (theyre still ${APACHE_RUN_USER} and ${APACHE_RUN_GROUP}, respectively) and the last one told me you haven't changed the defaults for those settings either.
[04:11] <Ed_Money> when upgrading to 11.10, something went wrong and now my computer boots up to the GNU GRUB screen. I can run "Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.38-12-generic in recovery mode" and see that my home directory looks to be mostly in tact. How can I fix my machine so it boots up to 11.10 or the previous version?
[04:11] <the_hulk> how i can share a large file upto 2 GB with my peer?
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> the_hulk: samba or ftp or sftp will do it
[04:12] <DroidInc> ActionParsnip: its enabled but the key bindings dont work anyway to get em to?
[04:12] <bowikaxu_> anyone with orchestra server knowledge?
[04:13] <Flannel> matin: Still with me?  Or confused as heck?  (Take your time, just want to make sure you're not looking at the screen dumbfounded)
[04:13] <the_hulk> ActionParsnip, ok
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> DroidInc: are you using unity?
[04:13] <DroidInc> gnome3
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> DroidInc: Unity is a shell for gnome 3
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> DroidInc: so if you use unity you will also be using gnome 3
[04:14] <matin> Flannel, sorry had to get up for a second
[04:14] <Flannel> matin: No worries.
[04:14] <matin> I'm good :)
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> DroidInc: if you press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace    does it activate?
[04:15] <Flannel> matin: Alright.  So, the point of that was to figure out what user and group apache runs as.  You're still default, which means it runs as www-data:www-data.
[04:15] <roasted> hello! I am unable to unmount my sd card. It just sits there for... well... forever. Literally. GParted, disk utility, etc. I'm also experiencing issues with this sd card in my phone. I was trying to pop it in my laptop to do a file system check but I can't unmount it to initiate the FS check. Any ideas?
[04:15] <DroidInc> killed my gnome3
[04:15] <DroidInc> but now my grid keybindngs work
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> DroidInc: you just need to reload the WM so it rereads the config
[04:15] <matin> Flannel: right
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> DroidInc: Gnome was untouched, only compiz changed
[04:16] <Flannel> matin: Now that we know that, we want to make /var/svn/ owned by www-data:www-data (because the apache user is going to be how we interact with it): sudo chown www-data:www-data /var/svn/
[04:16] <matin> alright done
[04:16] <DroidInc> cant alt f2 and no terminal open =X
[04:17] <roasted> this sd card is driving me crazy...
[04:17] <Flannel> matin: Now, we're ready to create our svn repository.  Again, we want to do this as our apache user.  So we'll use sudo to open a shell as our apache user, then move to our subversion directory, then make a repository.  What name do you want to give this repository?
[04:17] <roasted> once I forcibly unmount it, it wont come back unless I restart my laptop. awesome
[04:18] <Ed_Money> how can I back up my home directory in recovery mode?
[04:18] <matin> triumph
[04:18] <matin> Flannel: triumph
[04:19] <Flannel> matin: Alright.  So, `sudo -u www-data -i` (it likely won't ask for your password, but if it does, remember, it's YOUR password)
[04:19] <DroidInc> how do i reload gnome wm now
[04:20] <Flannel> matin: then you'll see probably nothing but a `$` prompt.  You're essentially logged in as apache right now, you can probably `ls` and see your site's files.  So we want to change to our subversion directory, `cd /var/svn/`
[04:20] <Flannel> matin: and then create our repository: `svnadmin create triumph`
[04:20] <matin> when i did ls
[04:20] <Flannel> matin: sure
[04:20] <matin> it says ls: cannot open directory .: Permission denied
[04:21] <Flannel> matin: Oh, this could be due to the fact that you moved it to your homedir.
[04:21] <StepNjump> matin you may need to chown
[04:21] <StepNjump> matin go on your terminal and type ls -al
[04:21] <Flannel> matin: You can cd /var/svn/ and `ls` successfully though, right? (it'll be empty, but it wont error)
[04:21] <matin> sudo chown www-data:www-data /home/fouad/public_html
[04:22] <Flannel> matin: No, don't do that.
[04:22] <StepNjump> Oh sorry Flannel, I didn't realize you were helping him
[04:22] <matin> oops i just did that :P
[04:22] <Flannel> matin: That's alright.  It gave you a "you're not allowed" message anyway, because you're www-data, right?
[04:22] <matin> yeah Flannel
[04:22] <matin> i can cd into svn and ls
[04:22] <matin> i mean /var/svn
[04:22] <Flannel> matin: (even if you did it as your user, we can fix it later)
[04:23] <Flannel> matin: right.  So, `svnadmin create triumph`  (we could have just did `svnadmin create /var/svn/triumph` instead of cd etc too, but this is obviously more educational :)
[04:23] <Northwoods> When i run localhost , it says Forbidden , you dont' have access to /
[04:23] <matin> where do i do that
[04:23] <Flannel> matin: Just in the terminal, where you're currently in /var/svn/ as www-data
[04:23] <Flannel> matin: Same terminal
[04:24] <matin> oic
[04:24] <matin> ok created
[04:24] <Flannel> matin: 'triumph' in that case is a relative path, 'whereever I am' being the default working directory
[04:25] <Flannel> matin: Alright, now we want to get out of our www-data terminal, and go back to your normal user, so we use `exit` (which is similar but different than logout)
[04:25] <matin> k
[04:25] <matin> i also use exit to exit ssh
[04:25] <vicro> olap view for linux???
[04:26] <OerHeks> vicro what is olap view ?
[04:27] <Flannel> matin: After that, we need to go into apache and point it at our new repository location.  So... lets see, this would be in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[04:27] <Flannel> matin: At least, that's probably where it is.  You may have done it differently if you were using a different tutorial.
[04:27] <Dex7> hello everyone
[04:28] <Dex7> please help - in my ubuntu unity 11.10 when i open skype
[04:28] <Dex7> and press left top menu(change status) fist time - it's open correct.
[04:28] <Dex7> when i minimize skype window and maximize it back
[04:28] <Dex7>  - left top menu from icon not available (just dont opened)
[04:28] <Dex7> how can i fix this?
[04:28] <FloodBot1> Dex7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <matin> default isn't the enabled one
[04:28] <Flannel> matin: We want to edit that file, so `sudo nano /etc/apache2/sites-available/default` in that file you should see a <Location /svn> directive, with SVNPath /svn in it, etc.  If you don't, let me know, we'll need to find it.
[04:28] <vicro> online analitic process ---> for for multidimensional data analysis (In BI)
[04:28] <matin> but ok
[04:28] <Flannel> matin: No, we want the enabled one.
[04:29] <matin> it's /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/krydia
[04:29] <vicro> MOLAP, ROLAP, ,etc in Oracle, mysql, postgre database
[04:29] <matin> and I'm in it
[04:29] <matin> but I'm not seeing a location /svn
[04:29] <Flannel> matin: Alright.  Go ahead and open that, and pastebin its contents please (there shouldn't be anything sensitive in it)
[04:29] <randomusr> how to print ascii code into characters?
[04:30] <randomusr> thought it was just using ALT + # and the number?
[04:30] <matin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761248/
[04:30] <jose__> como puedo instalar archivos .run
[04:30] <Flannel> matin: That doesn't look like a complete file, but just a section of the middle of one.
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> randomusr: http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/06/getting-right-alt-key-alt-gr-to-work-in.html
[04:31] <Flannel> matin: (actually it looks like the end of it)
[04:31] <vicro> jose_ : chmod +x tuarchivo       &&  ./tuarchivo
[04:31] <matin> oh hey you're right
[04:31] <matin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761250/
[04:33] <Flannel> matin: Oh, right.  Sorry, you're right! there isn't a <Location /svn> in that file!  Because as of ... 10.04 or 8.04 or something, it's actually in /etc/apache2/mods-available/dav_svn.conf
[04:33] <randomusr> ActionParsnip, the plot thickens as I'm using a mac. Any difference?
[04:33] <praic> #ubuntu-cn
[04:33] <Flannel> matin: so, go ahead and close this file, then open that (with sudo) in nano. (and pastebin if you don't mind!)
[04:33] <Cyber_Akuma> Is there any option when installing Ubuntu so it does not search for another OS when it installs grub? I only want the bootloader to have Ubuntu entries even though I will have other operating systems installed. Likewise, will these settings remain when grub is updated though the update/package manager?
[04:33] <motsword1> hello
[04:34] <matin> Flannel http://paste.ubuntu.com/761252/
[04:38] <Flannel> matin: Alright.  Now we need to change line 11, where it says SVNPath /svn, we need to move that to point to our new path, SVNPath /var/svn/triumph
[04:39] <matin> is that it?
[04:39] <Flannel> matin: Save it, restart apache, and it should be.  You should see "Revision: 0" at http://playtriumph.tk/svn once you log in.
[04:41] <matin> i can't log in
[04:41] <matin> >.>
[04:41] <matin> oh ok
[04:41] <matin> bad password
[04:41] <matin> when i log in
[04:42] <matin> i get an error
[04:42] <FloodBot1> matin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:42] <Flannel> matin: Which one?
[04:42] <matin> sorry, when i logged in i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/761256/
[04:42] <Hilikus> i'm trying to use pulse in my network but when i go to paprefs all ther checkboxes are grayed out. how do i enable them?
[04:44] <au_fait> I almost gave up on 11.10 because of the video was bad and it just seem like a hassle because  but once I got through that it is ok
[04:44] <au_fait> nice work guys
[04:44] <au_fait> I'm still n love with ya
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> au_fait: could switch DE ;)
[04:45] <VIPER-II> Actionparsnip can we have a little word in private?
[04:45] <Flannel> matin: Did you view http://playtriumph.tk/svn/ or  http://playtriumph.tk/svn ? (trailing slash)
[04:46] <matin> both are the same
[04:46] <au_fait> de ?
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> VIPER-II: sure
[04:47] <au_fait> desktop environment?
[04:47] <Flannel> matin: Alright.  Lets look at our apache error log, that'll tell us what it's not able to do.  pastebin `tail -n 25 /var/log/apache2/error.log` (that just displays the last (up to) 25 lines of that file)
[04:47] <danielfeng> join #douban
[04:48] <shaneo> lol forgot the /
[04:48] <au_fait> i dont like kubuntu
[04:48] <au_fait> and unity sucks
[04:48] <StepNjump> yes it does!
[04:48] <shaneo> unity isnt that bad
[04:48] <StepNjump> Ubuntu 11.04 forever!
[04:48] <au_fait> I know you guys are doing gnome ... it is next'ish
[04:48] <matin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761259/
[04:48] <shaneo> especially with unity rotate
[04:49] <au_fait> StepNjump,  I wish I would have said that!!!! but I already switched
[04:49] <StepNjump> 11.04 is the last version that Ubuntu will be running classic
[04:49] <shaneo> i did love gnome 2.* though
[04:49] <Flannel> matin: Alright, if I had to guess, I'd say we didn't successfully update /etc/apache2/mods-available/dav_svn.conf
[04:49] <arkanabar> Can anyone help me with my HP LJ which doesn't get print jobs, even tho the firmware autodownloaded just fine?
[04:49] <arkanabar> Laserjet 1018, if it matters.
[04:50] <Flannel> matin: Actually, let me ask this instead.  Can you please pastebin the contents of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.conf?
[04:50] <StepNjump> arkandabar, did you download hplip?
[04:50] <au_fait> gnome reminded me of NeXt
[04:50] <arkanabar> lemme double check.
[04:51] <arkanabar> StepNjump,  yep, it's the newest version.
[04:51] <matin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761261/
[04:51] <arkanabar> I remember something about the URI being autoconfigured wrong last time, but I can't find anything on that.
[04:51] <StepNjump> arkanabar, did you run it with the printer connected or unplugged?
[04:51] <au_fait> btb
[04:52] <au_fait> brb'
[04:52] <Flannel> matin: Alright, so you have (line 19): SVNPath /svn/triumph, this needs to be /var/svn/triumph
[04:52] <arkanabar> StepNjump, I don't suppose I've run it.  Which is better, & should I delete the printer I have now?
[04:53] <StepNjump> Well, when I installed my printer, it worked fine but when I ran hplip, my printer was not connected arkanabar
[04:53] <Flannel> matin: If you look at your error log, it was looking for /svn/triumph/format (format is a file in the repository that apache was looking for), which is how I knew this wasn't configured correctly (should be looking for /var/svn/triumph/format)
[04:53] <matin> ah
[04:53] <matin> huzzah!
[04:53] <matin> Revision 0
[04:53] <matin> so…. how do i use it lol
[04:53] <matin> i know git
[04:54] <matin> where you do git push origin master
[04:54] <arkanabar> StepNjump, hplip is apparently a metapackage.  what command do I need to actually run?
[04:54] <Flannel> matin: So, now go back to your homedir, make a scratch folder, go into it.  `svn checkout https://playtriumph.tk/svn/ .`
[04:54] <Flannel> matin: That'll checkout the repository (its empty) to your current working directory (which, you've made a new folder for)
[04:55] <matin> wait
[04:55] <matin> I'm on my macbook pro
[04:55] <Flannel> matin: Er sorry, http not https.
[04:55] <matin> and I'm sshing into my "server"
[04:55] <StepNjump> hplip! but follow the instructions on the screen and in the installation instructions on the web site carefully. Each steps are important arkanabar
[04:55] <Flannel> matin: you can do this on your macbook pro, if you have svn installed.
[04:55] <matin> which is just a crappy computer in my living room
[04:55] <matin> how do i set it up
[04:55] <StepNjump> arkanabar, also, ensure your printer is supported before trying to install it
[04:55] <Flannel> matin: At this point, your server is set up, and we're off to svn-land.
[04:55] <arkanabar> StepNjump, hplip:  command not found
[04:55] <StepNjump> It doesn't support ALL HP products!
[04:55] <matin> yeah
[04:55] <arkanabar> StepNjump, it is.  I got it to work on my lappy just fine.
[04:55] <Flannel> matin: Install svn on your macbook.... I don't really know how to do that :)  We CAN do it on your server too if that's easier
[04:56] <StepNjump> of course, you have to download the app. Hold on
[04:56] <StepNjump> I think you should run it by ./hplip
[04:56] <StepNjump> from the terminal line
[04:57] <StepNjump> Read the instructions carefully.
[04:57] <matin> i think it's installed
[04:57] <matin> what are the commands?
[04:57] <matin> for pushing to a svn
[04:57] <arkanabar> StepNjump, ./hplip:  No such file or directory
[04:57] <Flannel> matin: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.7/svn.intro.quickstart.html  That book is a good book.  You oviously don't need to set up a repository, just use it, so you can skip the first svnadmin bit.
[04:57] <Flannel> matin: `svn` is the command
[04:58] <matin> import?
[04:58] <StepNjump> arkanabar: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/installtree.html
[04:58] <VIPER-II> Thanks for your help ActionParsnip!
[04:58] <Flannel> matin: If you've got stuff you want to import, then svn import will work.  I prefer an initial structure commit first, but that's just personal preference.
[04:59] <matin> how do i commit?
[04:59] <StepNjump> arlamabar" http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install_wizard/index.html
[04:59] <StepNjump> arkanabar: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install_wizard/index.html
[05:00] <Flannel> matin: svn commit -m "message", I encourage you to peruse that page/its links (and the rest of it).  It's actually a pretty quick read for the basics (skip the reference and advanced stuff, etc)
[05:00] <Flannel> matin: especially if you're already familiar with git
[05:00] <matin> alright
[05:00] <Flannel> matin: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.7/svn.tour.importing.html for instance.
[05:00] <matin> yeah
[05:00] <StepNjump> Does anyone know about an app to record all sounds coming through the soundcard?
[05:01] <arkanabar> StepNjump, according to your last link, hplip should support my printer.
[05:02] <StepNjump> good arkanabar
[05:02] <arkanabar> how about that.  it just up and worked this time.  who can figure?
[05:03] <StepNjump> Then just download it.. but be CAREFUL to read every screen before going to the next screen. ALSO ENSURE your printer is NOT connected UNLESS at the end when HPLIP asks you to connect the printer
[05:03] <StepNjump> lol arkanabar...  likes the website
[05:04] <arkanabar> except that the printer is NOT visible when I try to print from Impress.  grrrrr....
[05:05] <arkanabar> eh, I opened up printer properties, and there it was.... this time.
[05:05] <au_fait> back.
[05:05] <Folklore> I had a problem of running a bash script stand alone turns out the problem was I didn't include the #!/bin/bash on first line and also because I didn't cd to the path I was doing stuff like cd /home/me etc... in the script
[05:05] <Folklore> just wanted to let all know that fixed it and it works great now
[05:05] <Folklore> as there was confusion last time
[05:06] <StepNjump> but arkanabar, did you run hplip before?
[05:06] <matin> alright
[05:06] <Dex7> in my ubuntu unity 11.10 when i open skype and press left top menu fist time - it's open correct. when i minimize skype window and maximize it back - left top menu from icon not available (just dont opened) how can i fix this?
[05:06] <arkanabar> StepNjump, don't think so.  I unplugged the printer & plugged it back in.
[05:06] <StepNjump> anyone familiar here audacity?
[05:07] <arkanabar> and blam, it automagically set it up.  wewt!
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> Dex7: where did you install skype from? Are there any bugs logged?
[05:07] <wrekt> hello. i booted up with the startup disk, ran ndiskgtk and installed the driver for my wireless usb. i rebppted and when i ran lshw -C network i got back instead of CLAIMED UNCLAIMED ENABLED DIABLED by the NETWORK a 0. any ideas what to do now?
[05:07] <matin> thanks Flannel
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> wrekt: which network chip is it?
[05:07] <StepNjump> No no arkanabar! I said don't connect your printer until HPLIP asks you to do it! UNPLUG your printer 1. download hplip, 2. run HPLIP 3 wait for the prompt to connect your printer. This is not Windows!
[05:07] <matin> but now when i do svn commit
[05:08] <matin> nothing happens >.>
[05:08] <wrekt> ActionParsnip, its a wirelss usb by linksys and i believe i succesfully installed the driver
[05:08] <StepNjump> plug and play NO!
[05:08] <Folklore> I do have a question fwrite doesn't seem to write anything unless I fclose
[05:08] <Folklore> any know why?
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> wrekt: thats the make, linksys don't make chips, they buy them from Atheros, Broadcom and Intel and make devices
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> wrekt: if you run:  lsusb   what is the 8 character hex ID you get?
[05:09] <StepNjump> arkanabar... do you understand?
[05:10] <wrekt> ActionParsnip, oh sorry got you. the number is 1737:0077
[05:10] <StepNjump> Ok guys, I'm trying to record my audio using audacity. Any idea?
[05:10] <Dex7> ActionParsnip: no nothin in my log. installed from repositry (default)
[05:11] <StepNjump> mmmm
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> Dex7: try the file from www.skype.com
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> wrekt: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1273401
[05:11] <matin> hey guys
[05:11] <matin> when i do svn status, it says ? js and ? css
[05:11] <Hilarie> I recently purchased a VPS and installed 11.04 on it, any suggestions on a remote system monitor?
[05:15] <wrekt> ActionParsnip, sigh i will investigate further. might pay to get a diff wireless card though lol they are quite inexpensive these days
[05:16] <arkanabar> StepNjump, I'm well aware it isn't Panes.  And yet, in this case, it's managed to behave very much like it.
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> wrekt: indeed, if you look at what works before you buy, you can get a system that works out of the box
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> Hilarie: could use snmp and go old school :)
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> Hilarie: http://library.linode.com/server-monitoring/cacti/ubuntu-10.04-lucid
[05:17] <arkanabar> It may not have been the "right" way, but it did work.
[05:18] <Hilarie> ActionParsnip, You rock
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> Hilarie: just websearched dude
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> Hilarie: nothing fancy or unique...
[05:18] <Hilarie> ActionParsnip you are at one with the google
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> Hilarie: duckduckgo here
[05:21] <jakupl> using duckduckgo too
[05:21] <Flannel> matin: You need to svn add first.  You've checked out, then you copy (filesystem) then add (files from filesystem into svn), then commit.  `svn status` will tell you what has been added (not yet committed), or question marks mean "not under version control"
[05:21] <matin> how do i add to version control
[05:21] <Flannel> matin: `svn add file`
[05:22] <matin> ...
[05:22] <matin> i kept doing svn add .
[05:22] <Flannel> matin: where file is a particular file, or a glob of files
[05:22] <matin> yeah haha i just got it :P
[05:22] <Flannel> matin: to add your current directory?
[05:22] <Flannel> `svn add *` does work, although it may not be what you want
[05:22] <matin> alright thanks so much Flannel
[05:22] <matin> i gtg
[05:22] <mike> Cool, there is an ubuntu channel
[05:22] <matin> good night
[05:23] <RobertsWeb> Hey guys!
[05:24] <RobertsWeb> Wondering how to keep ubuntu server up-to-date so my repositories still work. I have a server with 9.10 installed and apt-get no longer works
[05:24] <JoeSigal> Please help me with this site problem! http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> RobertsWeb: install LTS and it will be supported for a long time :)
[05:25] <RobertsWeb> ActionParsnip, does that mean I need to reformat the server?
[05:25] <RobertsWeb> can I update with a disk or something?
[05:25] <dumnut> hi, i have a 2.4g wireless mouse that does not work, does anyone know where i can get driver for it?
[05:26] <RobertsWeb> dumnut, whats the company/model?
[05:27] <dumnut> RobertsWeb: cpi
[05:28] <Northwoods> Why do i have to run gsudo nautilius everytime i want to paste something into directories like /var/www
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> RobertsWeb: you can upgrade to Lucid from Karmic
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: because the file is not owned by your user
[05:31] <Northwoods> ActionParsnip, but how do i give all rights to my user ---> Northwoods
[05:31] <Northwoods> ?
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: if you add your user to the group which owns the folder, you should get write access
[05:31] <Northwoods> I'm suppose to be the owner of this machine, sorry i'm new to ubuntu
[05:31] <Northwoods> ActionParsnip, you mean like root user ?
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: no, if you run:  ls -l /var/www   what is output?
[05:32] <Northwoods> i should add myself to root group ?
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: no, that would remove any security in your system
[05:32] <Northwoods> total 12
[05:32] <Northwoods> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  177 2011-11-26 22:42 index.html
[05:32] <Northwoods> drwxrwxrwx 16 root root 4096 2011-12-06 10:55 sraas
[05:32] <Northwoods> drwxrwx---  2 root root 4096 2011-12-06 10:55 ysl
[05:32] <FloodBot1> Northwoods: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:32] <Northwoods> sorry for flood
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: if you use pastebin you won't flood the channel
[05:33] <Northwoods> ok
[05:33] <Northwoods> ActionParsnip, how do i set permissions for my user login
[05:34] <hugalua> just wondering - what ubuntu release, or between what years did Ubuntu gain the most popularity? And was ubuntu forked off Debian, was the first 2004 release just the same as debian unstable at the time?
[05:35] <is_derek> Hi All
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: can you run:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear ls -l /var | pastebinit
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: what is output?
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> oop
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: can you run:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear; ls -l /var | pastebinit
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: that ^
[05:35] <napster> How can I cut a video from command line. I have a video which is 2 hours long. I want to cut from 00:10:00 to 00:22:00 to get a splitted out video. How can do that using cli?
[05:35] <is_derek> Has anyone had issues with their laptop touchpad freezing up?  Logout fixes it.  I am on 11.10
[05:36] <Northwoods> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/761281/
[05:37] <kadoban> can anyone tell me how to fix this huge dependency mess in aptitude? i'm trying to install ia32-libs package, and I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/761280/
[05:37] <Northwoods> i just changed my group from regular to ROOT
[05:37] <kadoban> it wants me to remove about a million packages in order to do that, which is not acceptable of course...
[05:37] <napster> or even splitting into two parts is more than enough!
[05:38] <Northwoods> i'm going to logout and login again
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> his call, oh well
[05:40] <x> napster, ffmpeg -vcodec copy -ss 00:01:00 -t 00:03:00 -i infile.mpg outfile.mpg
[05:40] <napster> x ty
[05:41] <kadoban> can anyone even tell me what the conflict lines mean? they seem like non-sense, I don't understand what's conflicting with what
[05:48] <StepNjump> If anyone is interested to know how to record audio 'what you hear' from their computer under ubuntu, I finally found it.. Hope it helps http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-recording-internal-audio-in-ubuntu.html
[05:58] <niftylettuce> using 3.1.4-030104-generic and 11.10, bluetooth not working, my icon says bluetooth is on, but when I go to preferences its stuck on the OFF switch
[05:58] <niftylettuce> i have a bluetooth normal USB dongle
[05:58] <niftylettuce> worked fine in 11.04
[05:58] <niftylettuce> err 10.04*
[06:02] <niftylettuce> odd, i had to `$ /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart` to get it working
[06:02] <niftylettuce> hmph...
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> hi chalcedony
[06:09] <smokeycastle> whats the ubuntu chat channel?
[06:09] <chalcedony> hi hi ActionParsnip *hugs*
[06:09] <somsip> smokeycastle: #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:09] <aaronsnoswell> I'm trying to create a one liner that adds to the path and appends the given directory to ~/.bashrc in one hit. So far I'm stuck. This is what I have so far: https://gist.github.com/1436976
[06:09] <ScroogeMcDuckets> Hello All!!! I'm having a problem with booting into Ubuntu 10.04
[06:10] <StepNjump> Does anyone know how to select and copy text in elinks?
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> aaronsnoswell: echo "export PATH=$PATH:$1" | tee -a ~/.bashrc
[06:11] <aaronsnoswell> ActionParsnip, You always come to my rescue <3
[06:11] <aaronsnoswell> Thanks
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> aaronsnoswell: add that in a script and it will take a pararmeter, this will be added to the path. I suggest you use a test file first, then switch to ~/.bashrc when you are happy with the results
[06:12] <mbrochh> hey all, does anyone know about a nice distraction free editor? I am thinking of something that I can put on fullscreen, that has the text in a column centered on the screen rather than left aligned...
[06:12] <aaronsnoswell> mbrochh, scribes is nice. I just use gedit though.
[06:12] <mbrochh> aaronsnoswell: gedit is left aligned, isn't it?
[06:12] <aaronsnoswell> mbrochh, yeah
[06:13] <SachinDey> nautilus is not showing folder icons
[06:13] <StepNjump> actionparsnip, you use elinks right?
[06:13] <almoxarife> SachinDey: that is not good
[06:13] <mbrochh> aaronsnoswell: looks like scribes is left aligned as well..
[06:13] <aaronsnoswell> :/
[06:14] <almoxarife> SachinDey: not at all or smaller and all in a column ?
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump: i've used links2 but not elinks
[06:14] <ScroogeMcDuckets> Hello All!!! I'm having a problem with booting into Ubuntu 10.04, its a windows dual boot. Got some automatic updates today and now if I try to boot into ubuntu its telling me that it cannot boot because of a corrupted hal.dll. Can anybody help me with this
[06:14] <SachinDey> almoxarife What to do now?
[06:14] <almoxarife> SachinDey: not at all or smaller and all in a column ?
[06:15] <StepNjump> ok actionparsnip. Do you know if links2 allows to select and copy text by using mouse?
[06:16] <SachinDey> almoxarife all icons are blank like an empty text file
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump: should do, you can use CTRL+Shift+C to copy in terminal, does it work?
[06:16] <almoxarife> SachinDey: in what particular folder?
[06:17] <StepNjump> actionparsnip, no I am trying to copy text from elinks and then paste it elsewhere but mouse is useless in elinks so can't select my text
[06:17] <SachinDey> almoxarife the whole of nautilus, seems like the theme default theme is not working
[06:18] <almoxarife> SachinDey: do you mean the desktop is one big blank?
[06:19] <skegeek> Is the recommended eBox software meant to be used on top of web/mysql servers or instead of them?
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump: is there an elinks channel?
[06:20] <inashdeen> hi, how do i completely remove java from my system. i dont any java at all
[06:20] <skegeek> Rather, does it run on them or are they contained inside the package?
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> inashdeen: what is the output of: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; dpkg -l | grep -i java | pastebinit
[06:20] <skegeek> inashdeen: How do you manage to never use Java? A lot of the web uses it...
[06:21] <ScroogeMcDuckets> I'm having a problem with booting into Ubuntu 10.04, its a windows dual boot. Got some automatic updates today and now if I try to boot into ubuntu its telling me that it cannot boot because of a corrupted hal.dll. Can anybody help me with this?
[06:22] <inashdeen> ActionParsnip : thanks for the pastebinit repo btw. :) never knew you can have something like that btw, here is it http://paste.ubuntu.com/761303/
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> inashdeen: makes life easier :)
[06:23] <SachinDey> alexomarife here is a screenshot http://dl.dropbox.com/u/50238248/13.png
[06:23] <inashdeen> skgeek: i got some conflicts after trying to install openjdk6, 7 and sun. now is removing all and then only install one.
[06:23] <StepNjump> actionparsnip, no I don't think so (channel). I downloaded elinks2. though it's very nice, still won't allow me to copy to pastebin
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> inashdeen: sudo apt-get --purge remove openjdk-*       look at what else it is removing, if all is ok, hit Y then ENTER
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> pastebinit should be in a default install as should apt-fast
[06:25] <inashdeen> ActionParsnip : all are only java files. but now it is installing sun, like previously :(
[06:25] <aaronsnoswell> ActionParsnip, I'm still tinkering with my oneliner - I want it to be a command that you paste in, rather than a .sh file. I don't think tee will work wit that.
[06:25] <binarymutant> does gnote not have a systray icon anymore?
[06:25] <aaronsnoswell> Ie, the user would paste in the command then append the directory they want to it.
[06:25] <inashdeen> ActionParsnip : just extra note, how do you actually execute pastebinit just now? want to read the manual
[06:26] <inashdeen> Sorry, how do remove openjdk without install sun java?
[06:27] <almoxarife> SachinDey: what did you do recently icon related? clear a cache? tried something like a 'cleaner'?
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> inashdeen: you can pipe commands in to it or use it to pastebin files. e.g:  pastebinit ~/.bashrc
[06:29] <plusEV> xit
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> inashdeen: the piping commands you just ran so you have a working example
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> inashdeen: saves messing around unsing the web interface to pastebins
[06:30] <x> why would anyone use unity when fluxbox+ubuntu is so fast ;\
[06:35] <StepNjump> ActionParsnip, I found it. In elinks, you have to press SHIFT key before selecting the text
[06:35] <crystal> How can I install a graphics card driver to my computer? It is saying no proprietary graphics driver installed
[06:35] <inashdeen> ActionParsnip : sorry, i got disconnected. what is the command again to remove all java just now?
[06:38] <aum__> Hello everyone, i have a program which needs to be run by root, so i set the setuid bit to that program but in that program
[06:38] <aum__> a system call to firefox is there, while invoking firefox its giving error of gtk and setuid, can anyone help me in this
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> inashdeen: sudo apt-get --purge remove openjdk-6-*
[06:42] <inashdeen> ActionParsnip :thanks
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> inashdeen: do the same for 7 too, watch what it wants to also remove
[06:43] <plusEV> I messed up my desktop enviroment using compiz. and now I only have  grey bar at the tome. I can only get into my home folder. Is it any way I can open a terminal from here so I can enter the compiz options?
[06:43] <plusEV> tome = top
[06:43] <Kapil_Sibal> Hah aha
[06:43] <plusEV> :)
[06:43] <inashdeen> plusEV : whice ubuntu are using? what kind of mess did you get yourself into?
[06:43] <skumara> can anyone help me with this dpkg errors? http://pastebin.com/q6QPhnKd
[06:44] <plusEV> latest verion
[06:44] <bullgard6> How to extract out of a  .png file that comprises 5 pictures, a single picture?
[06:44] <plusEV> everything i gone. I only have top bar with File, edit, view, go, bookmarks and help
[06:45] <plusEV> So how do I open a terminal from the home folder? =p
[06:46] <inashdeen> plusEV : try alt f2, see if that runs something
[06:46] <plusEV> alt-f2 does nothing.
[06:47] <crystal> How can I install a graphics card driver to my computer? It is saying no proprietary graphics driver installed
[06:47] <plusEV> this sucks massive amount of balls.
[06:48] <inashdeen> skumara: just enquiry, are you trying to upgrade gnome?
[06:48] <urlin2u> plusEV, ctrl-alt-f1 will get you to a cli.
[06:49] <plusEV> y.
[06:49] <skumara> inashdeen, i'm trying to update ubuntu as usual using the update manager. It gives me error and crashed. So i went to sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade. I end up receiving that error no matter what I do.
[06:50] <thomedy> i am trying to update my broswer to force enable webgl.. it was working before i updated browswers... i checked about:config
[06:50] <thomedy> on firefox and it is set to true
[06:50] <thomedy> and also i chromium-browser --enable-webgl --no-blacklist
[06:50] <thomedy> and still nothing
[06:50] <plusEV> urlin2u: Do you know how to enter the CompizFusion config from that terminal?
[06:50] <thomedy> i know it works because idt did
[06:51] <thomedy> please help
[06:53] <urlin2u> plusEV, you can't open the compiz gui from there but you can log in and run run sudo unity --reset    then reboot the unity desktop should be set to stock.
[06:53] <crystal> How can I install a graphics card driver to my computer? It is saying no proprietary graphics driver installed
[06:54] <urlin2u> plusEV, actually I don't think you need the sudo just the unity --reset
[06:54] <skumara>  i'm trying to update ubuntu as usual using the update manager. It gives me error and crashed. So i went to sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade. I end up receiving that error no matter what I do. http://pastebin.com/q6QPhnKd please help
[06:55] <plusEV> urlin2u: allright lets see if its fixed.
[06:56] <zeroedout> crystal: what graphics card do you have? You can only do that if you have a current nvidia or ati card
[06:56] <plusEV> urlin2u: still the same after reboot.
[06:57] <desertegl> anyone have link to minimal karmic (9.10) cd (iso)? Thanks...
[06:58] <zeroedout> skumara: you can try reinstalling  libclutter-imcontext-0.1-0
[06:58] <zeroedout> That's where it started having the error, so that's the package I would try messing with first
[06:58] <aum__> Hello everyone, i have a program which needs to be run by root, so i set the setuid bit to that program but in that program
[06:58] <aum__> a system call to firefox is there, while invoking firefox its giving error of gtk and setuid, can anyone show me a way to invoke gtk program through setuid program
[06:59] <zeroedout> aum_: I'm guessing gksudo isn't an option?
[06:59] <bullgard6> How to extract out of a  .png file, that comprises 5 pictures, a single picture?
[06:59] <urlin2u> plusEV, have you tried the other desktop options at the login window. Losing the desktop while tweaking compiz is quite common, but not a problem if you find a instructional web site, getting it back when broken is just as easy. This make take a few kicks to get it back.
[06:59] <crystal> zeroedout, Not sure which one I have. How can I tell the graphics card?
[06:59] <plusEV> urlin2u: compiz (unity) - Warn: unsupported internal format Segmentation fault.
[07:00] <aum__> zeroedout, no user interface is not there in the program to enter the password
[07:00] <zeroedout> crystal: do an "lshw" in a terminal and it'll give you alll the info about your machine
[07:00] <urlin2u> plusEV, what is the desktop yourt using?
[07:00] <urlin2u> your*
[07:00] <plusEV> no idea
[07:01] <crystal> zeroedout, just fcause PCI (sysfs)
[07:01] <crystal> zeroedout, just says PCI (sysfs)
[07:01] <crystal> nvm loaded.
[07:01] <zeroedout> aum: the program doesn't need a UI for gksudo to work. gksudo is just a very easy graphical way to give root permissions to a program (gui, cli or otherwise)
[07:02] <urlin2u> plusEV, really.....not sure what to say.
[07:02] <plusEV> urlin2u: I am in now. everything is back to normal. I do not know what I did but it works.
[07:02] <plusEV> urlin2u: thx for help
[07:02] <desertegl> nobody? just looking for a link to minimal karmic (9.10) cd (iso)? Google has led me no where..
[07:02] <urlin2u> plusEV, no problem.
[07:03] <zeroedout> destertgl: don't know, but am curious as to why you want 9.10....
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> desertegl: why do you want the ISO of a dead release?
[07:03] <computers> hi
[07:04] <aum__> zeroedout, you mean  { system("gksudo firefox");} will not ask for a password ?
[07:04] <computers> computers here
[07:04] <crystal> zeroedout, what line of text am I looking for the graphics driver.
[07:04] <computers> answering all ubuntu questions
[07:04] <zeroedout> aum: I misunderstood, that will ask you for a password
[07:05] <desertegl> 9.10 is the only release to have excellent video playback and hardware acceleration for my hardware (GMA 500 "poulsbo")
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> desertegl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1804990
[07:06] <desertegl> according to the wiki anyway. I've tried 10.10 and videos were jittery. I wanted to give karmic a try.
[07:07] <Sp0tter> do any of you guys have an AMD e-350 apu?  I wonder how facebook games (farmtown) work on it?
[07:07] <Sp0tter> thinking about getting one for my wife
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> desertegl: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAwMDc   poulsbo is in the default config
[07:07] <zeroedout> crystal: it will probably be under -display
[07:08] <crystal> zeroedout, Found it, what information do you need to help me with my problem?
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Sp0tter: which GPU too?
[07:08] <zeroedout> crystal: is the vendor "ati" "nvidia" or something else?
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Sp0tter: looks like an ION equiv for ATi, should be fine
[07:09] <desertegl> actionparsnip: let me browse the links you provided, thank you. and PS. I do understand it can work on other releases, I just read that out of all releases, 9.10 had the best performance.
[07:09] <crystal> zeroedout, vendor: Intel Corporation
[07:10] <zeroedout> crystal: Then there is no proprietary driver :D! Are you experienceing any problems with the default driver?
[07:10] <Sp0tter> ActionParsnip: its much better than an ion
[07:10] <Sp0tter> according to benchmarks
[07:10] <Sp0tter> AMD Radeon HD 6310 graphics
[07:11] <crystal> zeroedout, yes the videos/flash games seem laggy and fuzzy. But it could just be my computer.
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> Sp0tter: I'm not an ati fan but should be fine, were the benchmarks under Linux?
[07:11] <Sp0tter> nope
[07:11] <Sp0tter> i'm a huge ATI fan, i have 20 ATI/AMD cards running now :)
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> Sp0tter: then ION may work better, differnt OS. Benchmarks in Windows don't necessarily reflect Linux performance
[07:12] <zeroedout> crystal: flash sucks. let me state that again, flash sucks. For youtube, go to www.youtube.com/testtube look for "html5" and join the test for that. That will give you great performance, but not every video uses html5 yet (it will default back to flash if the video doesn't do html5)
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Sp0tter: I use only nvidia, they have supported Linux for as long as I've used it (started in 2001)
[07:13] <chalcedony> the only reason for using ati is price
[07:13] <Sp0tter> and btc mining
[07:13] <zeroedout> crystal: You can try dwhelper, to download videos in their native format. That will give you good performance on them, even full screen, but it does require the extra step to download
[07:13] <aum__> zeroedout, i think when we invoke a command using sudo or gksudo and we are a sudoser then it always ask for a password...
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> zeroedout: works fine here, not had an issue
[07:14] <desertegl> test
[07:14] <crystal> zeroedout, thanks for that. How about other videos, I want to view online. Not downloading though.
[07:14] <nevyn> ActionParsnip: really I thought nvidia support only arrived quite recently due to dave airlie's efforts
[07:15] <zeroedout> crystal: As a third alternative, you can try a lighter webbrowser, chrome, rekonq, qtweb, or epiphany may deliver better performance. But I'm not certain that will help. dwhelper is probably your best bet (but it does require that one extra step)
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> nevyn: it's been ages. I was running proprietary driver on my Riva TNT2 Ultra 32Mb
[07:16] <nevyn> oh.. proprietary driver. yeah that's not supported by linux
[07:16] <x> flash does suck, and flash support in 64bit linux is even worse.....
[07:16] <nevyn> ask anyone on lkml
[07:16] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, my son was running nvidia at least that far back
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> x: 64bit flash works great here in chromium daily build.
[07:17] <zeroedout> Actionprsnip: I've had flash work great with properietary nvidia drivers, but the problem is that it is not a long term solution. When nvidia drops support for the card, I'll either be stuck on an ancient kernel or novoeu
[07:18] <x> ActionParsnip, hrm. well I can't have any other sound playing or it doesn't work for me which is annoying and it seems to lock up firefox all the time. i'd use chromium but there is no option to make all the text a certain size which is a deal breaker for me.
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> x: why would you want 2 sounds coming out, itd sound like a big mess?
[07:19] <afidegnum> hello good morning, pls how do i add permission to user "afidegnum" being the main user to modify contents in /var/www folder?
[07:19] <afidegnum> so far I can't do anything unless I am in root
[07:19] <nevyn> ActionParsnip: new mail notification over music or something
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> x: zoom in and out of the browser with CTRL+scroll wheel, makes things bigger
[07:19] <x> ActionParsnip, nah thats not a replacement for having an option to make all text one size like firefox ;\
[07:19] <lighta> afidegnum, add him in www-data group
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> nevyn: yeah I disable all that stuff, stupid beeps and chirps for events really are redundant
[07:20] <afidegnum> what is the command for that please?
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> x: horses for courses :)
[07:20] <nevyn> ActionParsnip: there's reasons to do it tho
[07:20] <lighta> usermod -g something I don't remenber
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> nevyn: not here unity-mail uses notify osd nicely
[07:20] <thomedy> im trying to enable webgl inmy ubuntu 10.04
[07:20] <lighta> then check if folder can be editable by group, and you should be good
[07:20] <x> ActionParsnip, and more so than actually playing 2 sounds at once, If I have mpd paused in the background I have to actually 'stop' it or flash acts like I have no sound. maybe a problem with pulseaudio (bloatware) or firefox or flash who knows haha.
[07:21] <thomedy> and i had it a bit ago but now even though in firefox webgl-force-enable is set to true
[07:21] <luoluoluo> hi there, can I find files using regex? like "find -name *[A-Z]*" to find out all the files whose name contains upper letters?
[07:21] <thomedy> and opened chrome in term with --enable-webgl
[07:21] <llutz_> afidegnum: lighta usermod -aG     DON'T use usermod -G   only!
[07:21] <thomedy> nothing
[07:21] <lighta> or do an ln -s link in /var/www to your user folder, so he can,t put his file here then they'll be link
[07:21] <garden92> anyone know of a good file transfer program for linux?
[07:22] <afidegnum> ???
[07:22] <x> garden92, transfer to what?
[07:22] <afidegnum> it's getting confusing
[07:22] <nevyn> afidegnum: adduser afidegnum www-data
[07:22] <lighta> it was another option afidegnum sorry
[07:22] <afidegnum> ok,
[07:22] <garden92> x: another computer
[07:22] <llutz_> luoluoluo: man find (-regex)
[07:23] <x> garden92, on your local network, is it running windows or linux?
[07:23] <thomedy> garden92 do you know ftp
[07:23] <luoluoluo> llutz_: thanks
[07:23] <thomedy> ftp into ftp.name.suffix
[07:23] <thomedy> and then put or get
[07:23] <afidegnum> thanks
[07:23] <thomedy> and your set
[07:23] <garden92> x: yes and both thomedy: yes
[07:23] <thomedy> any ftp program like filezilla would require both name and pass anyway
[07:23] <thomedy> so thats it
[07:24] <x> garden92, if its a computer on your local network, there are better options than ftp..
[07:24] <thomedy> oh your not going accross
[07:24] <thomedy> my bad
[07:24] <garden92> x: what would be better than ftp?
[07:24] <bullgard6> How to extract out of a  .png file, that comprises 5 pictures, a single picture?
[07:24] <thomedy> he gots me... but i trust him
[07:24] <thomedy> or her
[07:24] <thomedy> x is kinda vague
[07:25] <x> garden92, what system is the other computer windows or linux
[07:25] <lighta> sftp garden92
[07:25] <nevyn> bullgard6: use gimp and crop
[07:25] <garden92> both linux
[07:26] <x> garden92, then i'd use nfs-kernel-server
[07:26] <afidegnum> nevyn: see, in /var/www I made mkdir test and I had this error mkdir: cannot create directory `test': Permission denied
[07:26] <x> !nfs
[07:26] <afidegnum> what do i do ?
[07:26] <bobweaver> afidegnum: you need permissions
[07:26] <nevyn> ls -la .
[07:26] <afidegnum> even I chmod 777 from root but I can't modify that folder from afidegnum
[07:26] <bobweaver> !permissions | afidegnum
[07:27] <x> afidegnum, sudo chown user:group folder
[07:27] <aum__>  i have a program created by root the program invokes "firefox" through system call, now i want this program to be
[07:27] <aum__> used by normal user so i set the setuid bit, now when the program is invoked by normal user its giving gtk and setuid error,
[07:27] <aum__> is there any way to solve this issue...
[07:27] <lighta> don't put 777 on /var/www afidegnum at leat 775
[07:27] <llutz_> bullgard6: just a guess: convert 'yourpng.png[1]' extracted.png     where [x] is the number of the frame youwant
[07:27] <afidegnum> ok
[07:27] <CommaCrazy> hi all, after an upgrade to 11.10 whn I download something from the net and open it in a containing folder it gives me the launch application chooser. does any one else have this problem?
[07:27] <CommaCrazy> any solutions by any chance
[07:27] <x> CommaCrazy, what kind of file is it?
[07:27] <garden92> x: and what would i use for windows to linux. for future prefrence
[07:28] <x> garden92, samba
[07:28] <x> !samba
[07:28] <CommaCrazy> whichever file that is downloaded when I right click and tell it Open in containing folder, the application chooser pops up
[07:29] <bullgard6> nevyn: Do you mean the file /usr/share/wordpress/wp-includes/js/crop from the DEB program package wordpress?
[07:29] <CommaCrazy> before upgrade the folder containing the file downloaded would pop up
[07:29] <nevyn> bullgard6: no.
[07:29] <x> CommaCrazy, what program are you telling 'open containing folder' transmission ?
[07:29] <garden92> x: thanks
[07:30] <bullgard6> nevyn: So what do you mean by 'crop'?
[07:30] <x> garden92, np. samba also works linux/linux so if you need linux > windows linux > linux it can do both.
[07:30] <nevyn> bullgard6: so is it an animated png of which you require a frame of the animation?
[07:30] <Shasta_> Hey I need help. Im trying to install wine on Ubuntu but its not working... Im also doing it all offline.. Can anyone offer help?
[07:30] <garden92> x: cool i'll look into that
[07:30] <CommaCrazy> FireFox Download tab
[07:31] <bullgard6> nevyn: No,I am not speaking about an animated picture.
[07:31] <x> Shasta_, can you just connect to the web or is that not an option ?
[07:31] <Shasta_> x no I need wine to install my drivers to my linksys
[07:31] <Shasta_> and wine isnt installing
[07:31] <x> Shasta_, linksys what ?
[07:31] <Shasta_> I run the wineinstall and it crashes
[07:31] <nevyn> bullgard6: so gimp is an image editor (package gimp) it contains a crop operation which removes evertthing but the selected area
[07:32] <Shasta_> x WUSB54GSC V2
[07:32] <nevyn> this can then be saved to a new filename as a new image.
[07:32] <bullgard6> nevyn: Ah, I see. Thank you very much for your help.
[07:32] <Shasta_> Its not about my linksys its more about getting wine to install
[07:35] <x> Shasta_, just missing how you are going to use windows drivers in linux without ndiswrapper ?
[07:35] <Shasta_> Im not sure =p
[07:35] <Shasta_> I cant really install anything
[07:35] <Shasta_> without internet
[07:35] <Shasta_> Hate having to drag it onto a USB
[07:35] <Shasta_> and in
[07:36] <x> Shasta_, yea, I have found a guide to install that device using ndiswrapper. if you'd like.. installing wine isn't going to help get that device working. and i'd really plug in a wire so I had internet incase you need to dl a program
[07:37] <Shasta_> I would need a long ethernet cord then lol
[07:37] <Shasta_> Can I get that guide
[07:37] <Shasta_> ?
[07:37] <x> Shasta_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225206&highlight=WUSB54
[07:38] <varys0101> Shasta_: you dont need windows drivers necessarily
[07:38] <varys0101> unless you have some crazy obscure card
[07:38] <x> Shasta_, wabt to hear something funny ?
[07:38] <x> want*
[07:38] <Shasta_> lol Sure
[07:39] <x> Shasta_, apparently that usb is supported now ( the catch is you need to connect to the internet first haha)
[07:39] <Shasta_> Wtf XD
[07:39] <Shasta_> Im also running an old version
[07:39] <Shasta_> Of Ubuntu
[07:39] <x> O
[07:39] <StarryNight> hello guys and gals
[07:40] <bobweaver> Shasta what is card and ubuntu version ?
[07:40] <x> Shasta_, well I just saw @ the end of the guide that since ubuntu 10.04 and some kernel long since outdated its supported now. so i'd upgrade your ubuntu if possible.
[07:40] <Shasta_> I can update it.. But... It'll be a pain to download
[07:40] <StarryNight> i just installed the latest version on my lappy and i am happy with it
[07:40] <varys0101> Shasta_: clearly all you need to do is ninja your computer near your broadband modem
[07:40] <bobweaver> might just need a simple modprobe
[07:41] <Shasta_> haha lol
[07:41] <varys0101> even if you have to hang upside down from wires
[07:41] <x> bobweaver, what does he need to modprobe ?
[07:41] <Shasta_> lol
[07:42] <x> wifi blows anyway wires FTW!
[07:42] <StarryNight> i know it is a dumb question but should i be worry about viruses?
[07:42] <x> StarryNight, only from your g/f sorry I had to...
[07:42] <Shasta_> lol Screw it.. Im downloading the Latest Ubuntu and Installing it... At least then it saves me the troubles
[07:42] <StarryNight> yea lol
[07:42] <varys0101> StarryNight: certainly should worry about viruses and security on one hand, on the other not really
[07:42] <x> Shasta_, thats what im sayin shasta mcnasty.
[07:42] <bullgard6> llutz_:  This created a new file which comprises (all old pictures plus a second copy of the first picture).
[07:42] <Shasta_> lol
[07:42] <x> well actually on linux, you need not worry about virii
[07:43] <x> the most dangerous thing on ubuntu is the sudo command.
[07:43] <StarryNight> i bought this lappy used windows for couple weeks and went back to linux
[07:43] <varys0101> good point x
[07:43] <llutz_> bullgard6: oh, wrong guess though (works with multiframe gif). sry
[07:43] <x> I have fubar'ed more than one ubuntu using sudo!
[07:43] <Shasta_> lol Sudo FTW
[07:43] <varys0101> StarryNight: make sure you know what a command does before you paste it in to your CLI
[07:43] <Seveas> sudo make me a sandwich
[07:43] <Shasta_> =)
[07:43] <x> yes sir.
[07:43] <StarryNight> ok
[07:44] <varys0101> sudo or sudonot there is no /try/
[07:44] <Seveas> sutry
[07:44] <StarryNight> i am just looking for a good software to play bluray
[07:44] <x> Shasta_, on the bright side, you came in here thinking you needed wine. ;-)
[07:44] <x> now you just need a cold beer and a new ubuntu iso
[07:44] <Shasta_> Haha lol
[07:44] <Shasta_> Yup
[07:44] <kazagistar> my I downloaded the bios update for my aspire one (that is supposed to solve a number of issues). However, it contains only a .bin, a .wph, and a flashing program for windows or dos. When I try to run the dos version under a live freedos, it says "illegal Instruction occured". Any ideas?
[07:44] <x> pretty l33t eh.
[07:45] <varys0101> all right so ive been using ubuntu since intrepid ibex and no i still dont know crap about linux -- i cant get my headphone jack working out of the box on oneiric for the first time
[07:45] <Seveas> kazagistar, yeah, boot into windows.
[07:45] <CommaCrazy> nvm just needed to choose nautilus
[07:45] <Seveas> those things don't run under anything else
[07:45] <varys0101> it works, its just coming out of both speakers and headphones
[07:45] <bullgard6> llutz_:  Thank you for commenting.
[07:45] <Shasta_> Ubuntu makes my life easier XD
[07:45] <x> varys0101, open from a terminal 'alsamixer' and make sure nothing has an MM in the bottom should be 00
[07:46] <kazagistar> Seveas: and if I dont have windows? and the drive is a encrypted LVM partition?
[07:46] <x> varys0101, oh wait it does work, then just mute you speakers.
[07:46] <Seveas> kazagistar, then you can't run it
[07:46] <Seveas> get an extra harddrive and install windows on it. And/or complain to acer that they force you to use inferior operating systems =)
[07:47] <kazagistar> ... is there some way to make a small windows live usb key?
[07:47] <x> lol seveas kinda blunt. but true....
[07:47] <its_me> Hello, does anyone know a git revision system that's closest to GitHub and installable on Ubuntu (11.10)?
[07:48] <varys0101> x: i see that front jack was set to mic instead of line in i think im hot on its trail thanks
[07:48] <Seveas> its_me, gitosis + cgit gives you shared repos and a web interface for browsing. No bugtracking and all the other shazam
[07:48] <x> varys0101, also, the program pavucontrol is very handy! you might have to download it.
[07:49] <nevyn> Seveas: gitolite is the current prefered access control system for git. gitosis is essentially unmaintained
[07:49] <its_me> Seveas: bug tracking and stuff are important right?
[07:50] <nevyn> its_me: gitolite gerrit, gitweb trac(with some effort)
[07:50] <Seveas> nevyn, ah, good to knoe
[07:50] <almoxarife> kazagistar: I have found win-dos on the internet, look for repairing MBR, that's what I needed it for then
[07:50] <Seveas> eww trac
[07:50] <x> lol.
[07:50] <Seveas> I just use github. Pay for private repositories if you need private stuff.
[07:50] <bobweaver> how to stop ubuntu from installing popularity contest on install ?
[07:50] <its_me> nevyn: I don't understand. A bit more clear please? (I am new to git & programming)
[07:50] <x> what is popularity contest ?
[07:51] <kazagistar> almoxarife: are you saying I can use MS-DOS or something to run it?
[07:51] <almoxarife> bobweaver: remove the package
[07:51] <wookienz> guys, i have a WD 2 drive Raid 1 USB device. One of the drives has gone bad. any chance i can just remove the good drive, stick it in my ubuntu system and mirror it just in case the other goes bad/
[07:51] <bobweaver> x:  Iit is used to giveinfo to devs about what is installed on your computer
[07:51] <x> bobweaver, as in developers ?
[07:51] <bobweaver> x: yes
[07:52] <x> hrm weird. I have never heard of it.
[07:52] <bobweaver> debian package I think
[07:52] <almoxarife> kazagistar: run a bios upgrade?
[07:52] <nevyn> its_me: so if you like github use github. if you want to keep everything onsite. then there are a bunch of options.
[07:52] <varys0101> x: interesting pavucontrol -- i have no concept however on what settings are optimal -- im confused at what these two devices even are. on windows its just realtek driver or whatever. ive got an HDMI device that shows activity and internal stereo audio that doesnt
[07:52] <kazagistar> almoxarife: yeah, one that does not work in freedos
[07:52] <x> varys0101, are you using a stereo wire out for audio on your pc?
[07:52] <its_me> nevyn:  okay, thanks.
[07:53] <bobweaver> x:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/popularity-contest
[07:53] <nevyn> gitolite will do really nifty access control for central internal git cannonical repositories I use it every day (it can do nifty things like per branch and per file tree restrictions)
[07:53] <andrew_46> http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/popularity-contest
[07:53] <varys0101> x: nah just a regular pair of microphones in a mic jack -- on the mobo theres three jacks one for mic in and two for headphones as if you would need two
[07:53] <cheshair> Hi! I was told to get and try instantbird as an irc client. On my Ubuntu 11.10 repos is not present, though. Is there any particular reason for this? Or is it just that the package is yet to be created?
[07:53] <x> bobweaver, weird. sounds almost like spyware (harmless though) but for linux haha!
[07:53] <almoxarife> !info popularity-contest
[07:53] <its_me> nevyn: yes, I will checkout your suggestions (gitolite gerrit, gitweb trac)
[07:53] <Resistance> cheshair:  there's other IRC clients available, if you cant find one
[07:54] <x> varys0101, I mean, how are you getting audio out of your computer. using speakers connected via analog or... ?
[07:54] <nevyn> its_me: you also may want to checkout gitorious
[07:54] <varys0101> x: internal laptop speakers
[07:54] <bobweaver> x:  lol repos are spy ware  but good ones
[07:54] <nevyn> which is probably the closest to what you want
[07:54] <kazagistar> afaik, there is a opt-in check box for popularity contest, unlike spyware
[07:54] <cheshair> Resistance, well... I know there are others :-)
[07:54] <andrew_46> cheshair: Don't like xchat, irssi etc?
[07:54] <Seveas> wookienz, yeah, that should work
[07:54] <its_me> nevyn: I couldn't find the downloadable files
[07:54] <nevyn> ?
[07:54] <x> varys0101, sorry, and whats your problem again ( your sound is working correct ) ?
[07:54] <its_me> I heard it's open source, but where can I download it?
[07:55] <its_me> Anyway, I will look into it again now and see if I can find the links
[07:55] <varys0101> x: my problem is just ignorance and not knowing what the right setting is most likely. yeah i can get sound just not exclusively from the headphones
[07:55] <bobweaver> almoxarife:  I just remove with apt before running ubiquity ?
[07:55] <cheshair> andrew_46, i am using xchat but i don't like it very much, i can give irssi a try but i preferred something more of a gui than of a tui
[07:55] <x> varys0101, ok. one sec
[07:55] <nevyn> its_me: http://coding-journal.com/installing-gitorious-on-ubuntu-11-04/
[07:55] <andrew_46> cheshair: Looks like it has a simple binary: http://instantbird.com/faq.html#installlinux
[07:55] <Resistance> eww
[07:55] <Resistance> cheshair:  you realize instantbird isnt technically a full irc client right?
[07:56]  * Resistance was reading through reviews about it
[07:56] <varys0101> Resistance: *eye roll
[07:56] <its_me> nevyn: Thanks a lot for the link. I will check it out today. Gotta run. TC and thanks again! :D
[07:56] <almoxarife> bobweaver: you don't want it? sudo apt-get remove popularity-contest                  done!
[07:56] <StarryNight> anyone is running nvidia video card?
[07:56] <Resistance> cheshair:  its closer to pidgin than IRC client
[07:56] <bobweaver> almoxarife: sweet I will try
[07:56] <Resistance> StarryNight:  yeah, but not one with Optimus.  Sup
[07:56] <x> varys0101, so it plays through your internal speakers and your headphones currently ?
[07:56] <bobweaver> almoxarife:  I hope that it is not build into ubiquity
[07:57] <almoxarife> bobweaver: it will probably brake ubuntu-desktop though
[07:57] <cheshair> andrew_46, yes but i thought it was better using software from the ubuntu repos (does this idea of mine make any sense?)
[07:57]  * bobweaver needs to learn more about live cd 
[07:57] <x> bobweaver, if when you do that command, it wants to remove alot of packages. don't do it lol
[07:57] <StarryNight> oh just wondered i installed the drivers for it but i noticed jitter and would evey few seconds just freeze the screen for like a second or so when watching a movie
[07:58] <Resistance> StarryNight:  i get that too, sometimes.
[07:58] <bobweaver> x:  lol
[07:58] <StarryNight> wondered if thats common
[07:58] <gnome-xchat> hi
[07:58] <Resistance> StarryNight:  could be just the movie, or some weird issue with your card, but i dont think its uncommon
[07:59] <Resistance> StarryNight:  i've seen it with nvidia, intel, and ati(amd) cards, so its not specific to nvidia
[07:59] <andrew_46> cheshair: From the repository is recommended but should not limit you completely :). Looks easy enough to install, give me a sec and I will try it
[07:59] <gnome-xchat> im new to ubuntu and lovin it
[07:59] <cheshair> Resistance, i see... i didn't get that, thanks for pointing out. Main issue form me is that I am looking for some confortable way of turning on my pc and having automatically logged in in my IRC chans of choice. With xchat autologin capabilities this is a pain, as far as i can se
[07:59] <x> varys0101, in alsamixer if you use your arrow keys to scroll, you see nothing in there named speakers or something that would indicate it controls the laptop speakers?
[07:59] <cheshair> *see
[07:59] <Resistance> StarryNight:  also, there's a bunch of other factors that cound impoact that
[07:59] <bobweaver> I dont care if it is on my computer as long as dpkg dont touch it :>)
[07:59] <Resistance> cheshair:  nothing will *easily* do that
[07:59] <Resistance> save for pidgin or stuff like it
[07:59] <varys0101> x: i dont get any sound anymore i totally just screwed around too much its a settings thing .. re: alsamixer yes i see speakers
[07:59] <Resistance> cheshair:  anything that claims to be instant messaging and irc...
[07:59] <cheshair> Resistance, ah thank you so much
[07:59] <Resistance> cheshair:  is probably not a full irc client
[08:00] <Resistance> cheshair:  you can set xchat as a startup item though
[08:00] <Resistance> i.e. after you login it loads
[08:00] <StarryNight> when i run windows i have no problem but just linux but if i just use generic drivers i dont get that issue just with nvidia drivers for linux
[08:00] <Resistance> but i'd not recommend that
[08:00] <x> varys0101, ok. hit M on the one called speaker and the 00's should go away on the bottom.
[08:00] <varys0101> x: master, speaker, pcm, front, front mic jack mode, S/PDIF, S/PDIF Default PCM, S/DIF Playback SOurce, Beep
[08:00] <x> varys0101, make sure everything except speaker is unmuted.
[08:01] <kazagistar> when I turn on my netbook normally, it blackscreens right away until I turn it off, but if I turn it on in recovery and "resume" it boots normally
[08:02] <varys0101> x: do i want it MM or 00 is one muted or something
[08:02] <x> varys0101, MM is muted
[08:03] <cheshair> Resistance, each time I launch xchat, it automatically log me in in ubuntu channel, which i do not want. There is a way to change this, of course, but i didn't find it, that's a bit frustrating. Anyway, you already answered my question, thank you very much
[08:03] <Resistance> cheshair:  #xchat for xchat help
[08:03] <Resistance> cheshair:  but you're welcome :)
[08:03] <cheshair> Resistance, yes sure
[08:03] <varys0101> x: thanks for your help, i got it to work by turning speakers bar all the way down (while unmuted)
[08:04] <varys0101> handy alsamixer thing
[08:04] <varys0101> muting speakers though makes both headphones and internal speakers go away
[08:04] <x> varys0101, hrm ...
[08:05] <varys0101> but turning speakers to 0<>0 is a workaround it seems
[08:05] <garden92> how would i install a game from an iso?
[08:05] <x> varys0101, in pavucontrol on the config tab. under the card ur using (internel audio) or whatever. in the dropdown box of options does it have any like line out or something.
[08:06] <x> varys0101, I don't doubt what ur saying it's just weird that it would work that way.
[08:06] <kazagistar> garden92: if it lacks more nasty copy protections, you should be able to just mount it and run it (in wine if it is a windows game)
[08:06] <varys0101> x: nope
[08:07] <varys0101> x: three options with the word "output"
[08:07] <x> garden92, if it's a new game, or one that uses like alot of resources it probably won't work / run very well in wine
[08:07] <andrew_46> cheshair: This will get you a look at the application in action anyway: http://paste.ubuntu.com/761376/ It is a single command...
[08:07] <x> varys0101, your using the internal audio analog, like an intel chip or something ?
[08:07] <varys0101> x: yeah i guess according to alsamixer its..
[08:07] <StarryNight> ok so i signed in with 2d ubuntu and it seems to fix the problems
[08:08] <varys0101> IDT 92HD balalalabh
[08:08] <cheshair> andrew_46, that's too kind of you! thank you veeery much!
[08:08] <its_me> nevyn: Ubuntu Software Center has gitolite + gitweb (as addon for gitolite), which is easier to install. Do they have the same interface as GitHub?
[08:08] <garden92> X: its a linux port and i think older then 04
[08:08] <its_me> nevyn: (This is a private project and I wouldn't host it on another service)
[08:09] <x> garden92, if it's ported to linux why do you need wine?
[08:09] <andrew_46> cheshair: If you like the application you should be able to drop the whole folder and contents in /usr/local
[08:09] <cheshair> andrew_46, fine
[08:09] <garden92> x: thats just what kazagistar said. im not trying to use wine
[08:10] <x> varys0101, oh. well i'm not sure on the details of that kind of card (IDT?) but if turning down the speaker vol works for you i'd say go with it since im not sure what else you can try if muting the speaker also mutes the headphone.
[08:10] <x> varys0101, the only control I know that should affect everything would be 'pcm'
[08:10] <x> or master obviously...
[08:11] <Folklore> im running server in terminal
[08:11] <Folklore> but when I close it out it takes like 2 minutes to get it to run again right
[08:11] <Folklore> keep getting a bind error
[08:11] <Folklore> any know why it takes so long to reset?
[08:11] <StepNjump> I installed a package using dpkg, how can I remove the package please?
[08:11] <Folklore> the binaries deleted and isnt running
[08:11] <x> StepNjump, sudo apt-get remove packagename
[08:11] <varys0101> x: i think my laptop's soundpanel has something to do with it, like it'll show muted on the physical-actual display when its no etc
[08:11] <StepNjump> ok thanks X
[08:11] <varys0101> not *
[08:12] <x> varys0101, I know what you mean sort of, laptop sound chips are weird. I'm glad to have a desktop with a decent intel /realtek chip I hated my old laptop.
[08:13] <StarryNight> x what kind of desktop r u using?
[08:13] <garden92> kazagistar: how do i mount in linux?
[08:13] <bobweaver> StepNjump:  you couls also use dpkg if the repo dont see the package I think that -p and -r are the ticket
[08:13] <RTYGY45> hail !!
[08:13] <x> StarryNight, oh. it's just a gigabyte mobo with an i3-550 overclocked to 4.2ghz with an upgraded air cooler. nothing special just a kit I bought a year or so ago.
[08:14] <StarryNight> darn
[08:14] <RTYGY45> x yeah overclocking latest CPUs is easy
[08:14] <RTYGY45> you get at least 1.5Ghz out of it
[08:14] <RTYGY45> but you break it fast
[08:14] <x> RTYGY45, yea all I did was give it +0.40 vcore to push from 3.2ghz to 4.2ghz
[08:14] <RTYGY45> also power consumption increase so you pay more money for it
[08:14] <Resistance> !offtopic
[08:14] <Resistance> i think you guys need to read that ^
[08:14] <x> Resistance, calm down bro.
[08:14] <bobweaver> StarryNight:  something like dpkg -r -P <package >
[08:14] <StarryNight> i only use semptron on my desktop cause i just watch movies on it
[08:14] <x> Resistance, computers 'are' on topic here.
[08:15] <Resistance> x: /query please
[08:15] <RTYGY45> you don't want to pay like 30watts extra for unused power
[08:15] <llutz_> x: no they aren't. this is ubuntu-support not hardware
[08:15] <StarryNight> my lappy is what i use the most so i just got i5 core second generation
[08:15] <StepNjump> bobweaver, yes the apt-get remove didn't work for dpkg -i brscan2-0.2.5.1.i386.deb
[08:15] <RTYGY45> so always understand if it's worth overclocking
[08:15]  * [Xaronic] is away: [avionic] is AFK
[08:15] <x> you know whats funny llutz_ i've been helping people for... an hour or so and you were quiet till you wanted to repremand someone for nothing
[08:15] <x> lmao.
[08:16] <x> Resistance, point made, but please refrain from sending me private messages.
[08:18] <rio_> hello
[08:19] <RTYGY45> hallo
[08:19] <RTYGY45> i want to install minimum linux with only a GUI like gnome 2.x
[08:19] <RTYGY45> anyone know how ?
[08:19] <llutz_> RTYGY45: get a minimal-iso of *buntu <11.10
[08:20] <PW-toXic> hi, I have an ubuntu server running, which i rarely reboot. But when i reboot, it takes hourse, because of the file system checks.. Can I and should i disable them?
[08:20] <varys0101>  RTYGY45: no, but I also can point out that this is a Ubuntu support channel
[08:20] <varys0101> or listen to llutz_
[08:20] <x> RTYGY45, download a server version of ubuntu.
[08:20] <varys0101> i dunno
[08:20] <varys0101> and x
[08:20] <bobweaver> StepNjump:  dpkg -r -P  brscan2-0.2.5.1*
[08:20] <llutz_> RTYGY45: from 11.10 there's no gnome2 anymore
[08:20] <x> RTYGY45, you can dl a server version and install it.
[08:20] <RTYGY45> llutz i want 11.04
[08:21] <satty> hi
[08:21] <benonsoftware> Hi all
[08:21] <RTYGY45> x i tried yesterday but after i finished it didnt start
[08:21] <RTYGY45> so i need a guide
[08:21] <RTYGY45> or someone who used the minimum cd
[08:21] <llutz_> !minimal | RTYGY45
[08:21]  * andrew_46 waves to benonsoftware :)
[08:21] <StepNjump> Oh breat bobweaver, let me try that one
[08:21] <x> RTYGY45, you installed a server version of 11.04 and it failed to boot or... ?
[08:21] <RTYGY45> yeah it failed to boot
[08:21] <x> what error..?
[08:21] <RTYGY45> after i downloaded everything
[08:21] <RTYGY45> black screen
[08:22] <satty> synaptics is not working
[08:22] <x> maybe a bad .iso did you check the md5 ?
[08:22] <RTYGY45> no i didnt
[08:22] <nevyn> its_me_gb: no.
[08:22] <x> If I see another spider in my basement im getting the glock.
[08:23] <llutz_> RTYGY45: did you get behind grub at boottime or was it black before?
[08:24] <RTYGY45> llultz i will try again today
[08:24] <RTYGY45> it was black screen and nothing response
[08:24] <x> RTYGY45, check the .md5 on the .iso !
[08:24] <almoxarife> satty: not working, how?
[08:24] <llutz_> RTYGY45: iirc pressing lef-shift will show  you the grub menu
[08:24] <Foulad> good morning , i was seraching for ubuntu update commend and found sudo apt-get update is that correct ?
[08:25] <x> Foulad, that will update your package DB
[08:25] <llutz_> Foulad: that updates package informations
[08:25] <x> but it wont install updates.
[08:25] <satty> almoxarife i am not able double click and drag and drop with touch pad
[08:25] <x> Foulad, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
 <x> whst will update ubuntu all of it ?
[08:26] <almoxarife> satty: what version of ubuntu?
[08:26] <x> Foulad, that cmd I just gave you will.
 thank you very muchj
[08:26] <x> np ;-)
[08:27] <satty> almoxarife u 11.10
[08:27] <stinkfist> do you have a command that will let me zoom in/resize with my touchpad?
 can you give me shutdown commend as well ?
[08:27] <x> Foulad, sudo shutdown -r now
[08:27] <x> is reboot err sorry.
[08:27] <x> no -r for shutdown
[08:27] <llutz_> Foulad: halt
[08:27] <almoxarife> satty: and this just happened or its been this way from install?
 sudo shutdown now ?
[08:27] <llutz_> Foulad: sudo halt
[08:27] <x> yea or halt I guess though I have never used halt.
 thank you
[08:28] <satty> almoxrife , its from installation
[08:28] <llutz_> Foulad: or: sudo shutdown -h now
[08:28] <x> do you need the -h ?
 i have 2 languages how can i change keyboard language by keyboad when i would like to witre
[08:30] <stinkfist> where can u find skype in ubuntu
[08:30] <llutz_> Foulad: idk
[08:30] <stinkfist> its not in the internet tab in applications
[08:30] <RTYGY45> i choose which option to install ubuntu mini ?
[08:30] <x> stinkfist, awesome name and sudo apt-cache search skype find the package name, then sudo apt-get install packagename
[08:30] <RTYGY45> last time i choose command line
[08:30] <llutz_> Foulad: systemsettings-keyboard maybe?
[08:30] <stinkfist> lol thanks x
[08:30] <Foulad> any one know how can i change keyboard language to write from keyboard not from top bar
[08:30] <almoxarife> satty: go into system settings > mouse-touchpad , touchpad tab and click on the settings you need
[08:31] <satty> mox any pointer for this problem
[08:31] <x> stinkfist, I don't see skype in the repo's. you might have to see if they have a .deb on their website ?
[08:31] <satty> almoxarife i did that several time but no benefit
[08:31] <almoxarife> satty: what kind of machine you got?
[08:32] <bobweaver> x: you can get skyp in the software center ?
[08:32] <scroogemcduckets> Hi. I'm running into a boot problem with ubuntu 10.4
[08:32] <x> stinkfist, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[08:32] <satty> almoxarife : Lenovo g460
[08:33] <stinkfist> i still cant find skype
[08:33] <stinkfist> it is installed
[08:33] <stinkfist> i just dont know where it is
[08:33] <x> bobweaver, yea, I see that it says that. but I can't find it.
[08:33] <x> stinkfist, locate skype
[08:33] <x> in a terminal
[08:33] <stinkfist> how?
[08:33] <stinkfist> thats the command?
  dash home and search for it if you have 11.10
[08:33] <scroogemcduckets> Hi. I'm running into a boot problem with ubuntu 10.4, can anyone help with this?
[08:33] <x> stinkfist, open a terminal and type locate skype.
[08:34] <x> stinkfist, thats how you can find it if it's installed.
[08:34] <stinkfist> oh thanks
[08:34] <stinkfist> found it
[08:34] <stinkfist> its on my windows partition :/
[08:34] <x> LOL -__
[08:34] <x> stinkfist, you need an ubuntu ver of skype
[08:34] <llutz_> stinkfist: apt-cache policy skype |grep -i insta
[08:35] <master_> hey i'm new here
[08:35] <x> scroogemcduckets, what kind of boot problem ?
[08:35] <stinkfist> how do u do that straight line
[08:35] <stinkfist> o.o
[08:36] <StepNjump> bobweaver it worked! thank you very much
[08:36] <bobweaver> StepNjump:  np
[08:36] <bobweaver> x: 100% in the repos http://imagebin.org/187202
[08:36] <StepNjump> bobweaver, have you ever used weechat?
[08:36] <almoxarife> satty: not sure what to tell you, perhaps someone else has had the same issue
 I ran some updates today in ubuntu and its no longer booting, its a dual boot with windows xp.
[08:37] <x> scroogemcduckets, any errors... ?
[08:37] <bobweaver> StepNjump: no I have not you can pm me and tell me all about it
[08:37] <x> bobweaver, Im not doubting it, just saying it doesn't show up on my machine
 yes its saying to replace the hal.dll
[08:37] <almoxarife> scroogemcduckets: is it a wubi install?
[08:38] <StepNjump> oh no bobweaver, it's just that I was told that this IRC has a way to easily autofill the line with previous nicks used for faster use but I haven't found how to do it. It's a curses type of IRC client
 yes
[08:38] <x> bobweaver, did you have to add a repo to find it ?
[08:38] <x> StepNjump, type part of nick then hit tab ?
[08:39] <satty> almoxarife : problem solved
[08:39] <x> scroogemcduckets, so you had dualboot windows... 7 / ubuntu ?
[08:39] <almoxarife> satty: cool, what was it?
 xp/ubuntu
[08:39] <StepNjump> X: oh great!
[08:39] <StepNjump> x thanks a lot
[08:39] <satty> sudo synclient SingleTapTimeout=360
[08:40] <bobweaver> x: lets see:  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ && cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:40] <StepNjump> that is great!
[08:40] <StepNjump> x: The tab works
[08:40] <x> when I search for skype all I find is something about pidgin-skype and someprogram named earcandy only 3 results none of them skype.
[08:41] <x> but I don't need skype so MUAHHAHahaah!.
[08:41] <x> sorrry im a bit toasted.
[08:41] <StarryNight> skype.com :)
[08:41] <x> cellphone.net ;-P
[08:42] <master_> how to install tor
[08:42] <ikonia> !skype | x
[08:42] <llutz_> !tor | master_
[08:42] <Superxgl> hi all, a side question pls, what is the difference between open source software and traditional software in testing ?
[08:42] <master_> i had problem
[08:42] <x> ikonia, I know I referred someone to that community link a minute ago ;-) thank you though.
[08:42] <master_> i have problem
[08:42] <x> master_, whats that problem?
[08:43] <master_> pluging not install
[08:43] <llutz_> !details | master_
[08:44] <master_> i use ubuntu 11.10
[08:44] <master_> new version
[08:44] <master_> and i install the validater
[08:44] <x> master_, what plugin ? how did you try to install, and what error ?
[08:45] <master_> show  connection error
[08:45] <master_> that pluging not support
[08:45] <master_> like this
[08:45] <StepNjump> Has anyone ever successfully install a Brother printer on Linux? http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/index.html
[08:45] <StepNjump> I keep getting error messages
[08:46] <x> StepNjump, not that it helps but usually HP is easiest on linux
[08:46] <llutz_> StepNjump: hl22250dn works fine here (10.10) with debs from brother
[08:46] <x> StepNjump, well it helps if you didn;t buy it yet.
[08:47] <StepNjump> x: llutz_ I am trying to manually install the scanner drivers over my LAN and it doesn't seem to want to connect
[08:47] <x> StepNjump, what do you mean install over the lan... ?
[08:47] <llutz_> StepNjump: scanner? multifunctional printer? no idea about those
[08:48] <StepNjump> x: I found it in the trash! lol It is not working over USB but is working fine on scan on windows lol
hey thanks anyway. I'm gonna go back to google.
[08:48] <StepNjump> on the network
[08:48] <StepNjump> llutz_: yes multifunction
[08:48] <x> StepNjump, garbage gem eh. love those.
[08:48] <StepNjump> x: lol
[08:49] <x> I have a real nice amplifier from the 70's someone abused by putting in the trash ;-(
[08:49] <RTYGY45> abused it ?
[08:49] <x> yea. since it still works 100%
[08:49] <RTYGY45> 31 yrs and it is still working ?
[08:49] <x> fuq yea.
[08:49] <x> sansui au-8500.
[08:49] <Superxgl> ok, then , is there any channel about software testing?
[08:50] <StepNjump> x: The first goodie I found in the trash was a HP netserver. It had sda, sdb and sdc in there.. Nice machine... BIG! I was living in California in those days not too far from Silicon valley
[08:50] <RTYGY45> well.. it at least it died before you
[08:50] <RTYGY45> you are still a life
[08:50] <x> huh?
[08:50] <RTYGY45> nothing
[08:50] <x> it's older than me !
[08:50] <RTYGY45> ooo ok
[08:50] <RTYGY45> i thought you are near 60 or somethig
[08:50] <x> oh hellz nah
[08:50] <x> ;-P
[08:51] <andrew_46> StepNjump: I did but on another distro: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/slackware-vs-brother-hl-2140-a-742981/
[08:51] <x> StepNjump, what did you mean by trying to install over the lan ? and what kind of file is the driver ur trying to install?
[08:52] <StepNjump> thanks andrew_46
[08:52] <aiu_> hello, im completly new to linux - though iwould like to setup a cloud9 testing environment - do i need the server or desktop version?
[08:53] <iceroot> aiu_: 2 server installations
[08:53] <StepNjump> x: well.. I tried to install the scanner drivers
[08:53] <StepNjump> let me check
[08:53] <iceroot> aiu_: if you mean the ubuntu-cloud
[08:53] <StepNjump> x: I tried to install those: brscan2-0.2.5-1.i386.deb  brscan-skey-0.2.1-3.i386.deb  cupswrapperMFC420CN-1.0.2-3.i386.deb  mfc420cnlpr-1.0.2-1.i386.deb
[08:53] <aiu_> nope, the "mozilla" collaborative development ide
[08:53] <aiu_> @ iceroot
[08:54] <x> StepNjump, how did you try to install them. and are you on 32bit linux ?
[08:54] <aiu_> @ iceroot http://cloud9.io/
[08:54] <Raghu__> When compiling the package,  mingw-runtime-3.15.2 I am getting the *** buffer overflow detected ***
[08:54] <llutz_> StepNjump: did you "sudo apt-get -f install" after installing those? what error do you get?
[08:54] <StepNjump> x yes on 32 bits
[08:54] <iceroot> aiu_: server down
[08:54] <aiu_> sorry @ iceroot http://c9.io/
[08:54] <StepNjump> llutz_: it just wouldn't connect to the printer I think... Let me see the error message I received
[08:55] <Raghu__> When compiling the package,  mingw-runtime-3.15.2 I am getting the *** buffer overflow detected *** Is this my i386-gnu-linux/libc problem?
[08:55] <RTYGY45> which is better? GRUB or LILO bootloader ?
[08:55] <aiu_> @ iceroot https://github.com/ajaxorg/cloud9
[08:56] <llutz_> RTYGY45: depends on your needs. both do their job
[08:56] <x> RTYGY45, go with grub
[08:56] <StepNjump> llutz_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/761405/
[08:56] <Raghu__> When compiling the package,  mingw-runtime-3.15.2 I am getting the *** buffer overflow detected *** Is this my i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 problem?
[08:57] <master_> apt-get install tor tor-geoipdb
[08:57] <iceroot> aiu_: server-edition is ok for that
[08:57] <ikonia> Raghu__: it certainly looks from that high level error message that it's not happy with your libc component
[08:57] <master_> after this step what ill do
[08:57] <ikonia> Raghu__: have you considered looking if there is a pre-compiled version already available ?
[08:57] <iceroot> aiu_: if you dont need a gui(desktop) use the server-edition of ubuntu
[08:58] <bheda> mac os  x file manager   in ubuntu
[08:58] <ikonia> bheda: pardon ?
[08:58] <omkar_> hi
[08:58] <bheda>    i used to   mac os file manager   is there a clone of it ubuntu
[08:58] <marcvangend> I'm trying to figure out which user Apache is running as.
[08:58] <marcvangend> When I do "ps aux | grep apache", I get 1 process running as root and 5 as www-data. So which is it?
[08:58] <ikonia> bheda: not a clone no
[08:58] <Raghu__> ikonia: I am cross compiling this for my MIPS...
[08:58] <ikonia> bheda: there are file managers such as nautilus on ubuntu
[08:58] <llutz_> marcvangend: www-data
[08:58] <Raghu__> ikonia: i can paste the full backtrace here
[08:58] <bheda> yaa
[08:59] <omkar_> hey what are you talking about
[08:59] <StepNjump> llutz_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/761407/
[08:59] <ikonia> Raghu__: no thanks,
[08:59] <llutz_> marcvangend: apache starts as user "root" to be able to bind port 80/443, then it forks to user www-data
[08:59] <bheda>    but i wanted the tab effect   of mac os x  file manager  how  to    i  just googled i didnt find  wat i was looking for
[08:59] <aiu_> @ iceroot thx for your advice
[08:59] <ikonia> bheda: not sure that's part of the default file managers
[08:59] <llutz_> StepNjump: no helpful error in that.
[09:00] <omkar_> ikona
[09:00] <bheda>   macubuntu  doesnt have   it   also
[09:00] <x> lol. was that a trolling attempt -_-
[09:00] <ikonia> bheda: that's b ecause it's just a skin
[09:00] <marcvangend> llutz_: OK, thanks. In that case I still don't understand why Apache doesn't allow my to use files that are in the www-data group... but I will search on!
[09:00] <ikonia> x: ?
[09:00] <mazda01> i am issuing sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdd bs=1M against a disk I am purposely trying to to zero out. it's 160gb. it still isn't done, is that normal?
[09:00] <x> ikonia, ?
[09:01] <ikonia> mazda01: yes
[09:01] <ikonia> mazda01: it has to write 160GB of nothing
[09:01] <mazda01> ikonia, ok, do i just ctrl-c it?
[09:01] <StepNjump> If anyone is interested to know how to record audio 'what you hear' from their computer under ubuntu, I finally found it.. Hope it helps http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-recording-internal-audio-in-ubuntu.html
[09:01] <ikonia> why would you ctrl-c it
[09:01] <mazda01> ikonia, oh, so keep waiting?
[09:01] <llutz_> mazda01: "killall -USR1 dd" on 2nd terminal
[09:01] <StepNjump> ooops error
[09:01] <ikonia> mazda01: correct, just wait for it to finish
[09:01] <llutz_> mazda01: itll show you the progress
[09:01] <StepNjump> llutz_: I think I will go to bed... I thought it would have been easier
[09:02] <mazda01> llutz, there;s definitely no progress of anything. LOL
[09:02] <StepNjump> thanks though llutz_
[09:02] <RTYGY45> guys
[09:02] <RTYGY45> GUYS !!!
[09:02] <ikonia> mazda01: do "iostat 5" and make sure there is disk activity on the target device
[09:02] <ikonia> RTYGY45: please stop that
[09:02] <bheda> i have one more problem  i  just dont see many of the  wifi connections in my area in ubuntu  which im able to see in windows7  i have a laptop acer5733 having atheros  ar5b95   i  just says no wifi networks detected
[09:02] <RTYGY45> i installed ubuntu mini and finished the installation
[09:03] <RTYGY45> now it's askig me for a user pass
[09:03] <RTYGY45> i didnt use anything
[09:03] <Raghu__> ikonia: any clues why the libc is crahsing?
[09:04] <llutz_> mazda01: if your dd doesn't respond to USR1, it hangs
[09:04] <ikonia> Raghu__: not without more details,
[09:04] <mazda01> ikonia, ok, installing sysstat, 1 sec
[09:04] <mazda01> ikonia, doesn't come default in 10.04 apparently
[09:05] <elagoz> حد هنا مصررررررررررررررررررررررررررى ؟
[09:05] <x> mazda01, or 11.10
[09:05] <elagoz> طب حد هنا عرببببببببببببببببببببببببببببببببببببببى
[09:06] <x> what is that arabic ?
[09:06] <mazda01> ikonia, ok, the iostat 5 came back and it shows different numbers for TPS each time on the disk. sdd             152.80
[09:06] <StepNjump> x or llutz_ maybe you guys could help me with this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/761418/
[09:06] <ikonia> mazda01: ok, so it's "working"
[09:06] <elagoz> why u ask X ?
[09:06] <Raghu__> ikonia: Thanks for your support. I am using the bitbake to cross comiple, And my host is running on Ubuntu 11.0.
[09:06] <ikonia> Raghu__: no idea what bitbake is, not how I cross-compile
[09:07] <x> StepNjump, is that .deb in the .dir you are trying to install from ?
[09:07] <Raghu__> ikonia: I dont understand why host pc's libc is getting used here. see the the backtrace.
[09:07] <Raghu__> *** buffer overflow detected ***: /toolchain/raghup/ea/build_tv550_debug_rebuild001/staging/i586-mingw32/usr/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/3.4.5/../../../../i586-mingw32/bin/ld terminated
[09:08] <mazda01> ikonia, here's a pastebin  http://pastebin.com/XLCpfVAe
[09:08] <Raghu__> i586-mingw32-gcc -B./ -shared  -Wl,--image-base,0x6FBC0000 -Wl,--entry,_DllMainCRTStartup@12 mthr.o mthr_init.o mingwthrd.def -Lmingwex -o mingwm10.dll
[09:08] <mazda01> llee, what's USR1?
[09:08] <Raghu__> collect2: ld terminated with signal 6 [Aborted]
[09:08] <StepNjump> yes x
[09:09] <StepNjump> according to the brother website, they have two drivers for my printer: cups driver and LPR. I don't know the difference x
[09:09] <x> StepNjump, according to that error that .deb is not in that directory it says it can't find it... check ur spelling
[09:09] <StepNjump> no it should be fine... let me check again x
[09:10] <ikonia> mazda01: looks like it's doing stuff
[09:10] <mazda01> StepNjump, yes, are you absolutely sure it's named: cupswrapperMFC420CN-1.0.2-3.i386.deb?
[09:10] <mazda01> ikonia, ok, thanks a lot! it's only been a few hours so I guess 160gb take s along time
[09:11] <StepNjump> x:  you were darned right!
[09:11] <x> mazda01, if you are writing zero's then heck yea dude. 160gb of 0's is alot.
[09:11] <llutz_> mazda01: "killall -USR1 dd" as same user in 2nd terminal. all running dd will/shall respond with a status on it
[09:11] <mazda01> ikonia, would you guys know how to break in a hard drive, like to make sure it's fully tested before putting it into a raid array?
[09:11] <StepNjump> I was one lever up! x and mazda01
[09:11] <Raghu__> ikonia:  *** buffer overflow detected ***: /toolchain/raghup/ea/build_tv550_debug_rebuild001/staging/i586-mingw32/usr/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/3.4.5/../../../../i586-mingw32/bin/ld terminated
[09:11] <Raghu__> ikonia: collect2: ld terminated with signal 6 [Aborted]
[09:12] <mazda01> llutz, so is there another way to make sure a stupid gpt partition table gets removed then? can I just kill the dd command?
[09:12] <x> mazda01, not really drives fail whenever they want.
[09:12] <ikonia> mazda01: break in ?
[09:12] <x> mazda01, and by doing tons of stress tests or whatever to make sure it won't fail, you might make it fail haha!
[09:12] <mazda01> x true BUT if I test it thoroughly I can be sure it's not a DOA for the most part
[09:13] <x> mazda01, check it for bad sectors, if no bad sectors. then it's not currently DOA
[09:13] <mazda01> ikonia, ensuring a drive is NOT DOA
[09:13] <ikonia> mazda01: errr, if it spins up, it's not DOA
[09:13] <x> ikonia, not true.
[09:13] <mazda01> lol
[09:13] <mazda01> i have stirred the pot. LOL
[09:13] <x> not true at all lol.
[09:13] <ikonia> yes it is true
[09:13] <ikonia> if a hard disk spins up, it's not "dead"
[09:13] <x> so a disk that spins up but is unuseable it's not 'dead'
[09:14] <x> ?
[09:14] <ikonia> no
[09:14] <mazda01> i have been looking into unRAID and many suppliers of hard drive server (file storage) claim to break in servers for 2 weeks prior to shipping it to you
[09:14] <llutz_> mazda01: parted   "mklabel DOS"
[09:14] <x> k your right :-) agree to disagree
[09:14] <llutz_> mazda01: sry "mklabel msdos"
[09:14] <theadmin> Why use dd to make a partition table anyway? fdisk /dev/sda <<< "o"
[09:14] <StepNjump> x and mazda01 Awsome.. It installed! Now I have to configure the network. What is the difference between the CUPS and LPR driver?
[09:14] <mazda01> theadmin, i never said I am using dd to make a partition table
[09:15] <theadmin> mazda01: to wipe, I meant
[09:15] <x> mazda01, anyway I have gotten like 10 hd's over the years with 'bad sectors' on them as soon as I got them they spin up, but they are useless since they are already failing and will only give problems.
[09:15] <mazda01> StepNjump, glad it worked, no idea. you'd have to google to find out different
[09:15] <theadmin> mazda01: You can just create a new one (the command I specified does so for /dev/sda)
[09:15] <x> StepNjump, i don't know what lpr is, but ubuntu uses cups
[09:15] <mazda01> x that's my point. so what is the test to check for bad sectors?
[09:15] <x> check the brother website for more info
[09:15] <StepNjump> oh ok.. that's what it worked anyway x.. Thanks a lot to mazda01 also
[09:16] <StepNjump> Works so great with the TAB in weechat.. this is soo awsome
[09:16] <x> mazda01, um, under system administration like gnome-disk-utility or something shows if you have bad sectors
[09:16] <Raghu__> Any idea why following error is coming while cross-comipling? *** buffer overflow detected ***: /toolchain/raghup/ea/build_tv550_debug_rebuild001/staging/i586-mingw32/usr/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/3.4.5/../../../../i586-mingw32/bin/ld terminated
[09:16] <mazda01> x don't have gnome-disk-utility is that available to 10.04? i can look, sorry
[09:16] <mazda01> theadmin, what was the command again?
[09:17] <theadmin> mazda01: Creates an empty MBR partition table on /dev/sda
[09:17] <theadmin> mazda01: fdisk /dev/sda <<< "o"
[09:17] <footofthehare> so i removed the nvidia drivers from my other computer and i have the new ones to install but when i try to boot it up it doesn't go into a terminal just into a broken looking screen
[09:17] <elagoz> ya ged3an 7ad masry aw 3arby hena ?
[09:17] <x> mazda01, not sure. I used to have it (though im on fluxbox now) and I would like to get it again my self actually. apt-cache says package name is gnome-disk-utility but I can't find the executable for some reason... hrmmm
[09:17] <footofthehare> is there a button i need to press when it's booting up to go into terminal
[09:18] <Raghu__> Any idea why following error is coming while cross-comipling? *** buffer overflow detected ***: /toolchain/raghup/ea/build_tv550_debug_rebuild001/staging/i586-mingw32/usr/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/3.4.5/../../../../i586-mingw32/bin/ld terminated
[09:18] <mazda01> footofthehare, no, at some point you can hit ctrl-alt-f1
[09:18] <ikonia> Raghu__: look at the libc component it's using from your toolchain
[09:18] <ikonia> looking at that error, it's in there
[09:18] <mazda01> footofthehare, and that will take you a terminal like window to log in without a gui, is that what you mean?
[09:18] <footofthehare> yes, mazda
[09:19] <elagoz> how i can open Ntfs on Xubuntu  ?
[09:19] <mazda01> LOL, so apparently I used that USR1 dd command and here's the status: 159330074624 bytes (159 GB) copied, 8515.58 s, 18.7 MB/s
[09:19] <x> anyone know what the binary is called for gnome-disk-utility ?
[09:19] <inashdeen> hi, i am installing open kdk 7. and when i want to  update-alternatives -s it, i got this error http://pastebin.com/8nTm78Mx
[09:19] <theadmin> elagoz: The same way you open any usual partition, just make sure ntfs-3g is installed
[09:20] <mazda01> so it's almost done then?
[09:20] <llutz_> mazda01: correct
[09:20] <mazda01> llutz, thanks
[09:20] <Raghu__> ikonia: how to i update my libc component?
[09:21] <footofthehare> ok ctrl alt f1 just makes the screen go blank, am i screwed here?
[09:21] <ikonia> you don't
[09:21] <ikonia> Raghu__: and it looks like it's the libc component in the toolchain, not the system
[09:21] <footofthehare> do i have to do a complete reinstall
[09:21] <mazda01> x i have a disk utility which is this command: palimpsest
[09:21] <deej1976> x: palimpsest
[09:21] <mazda01> footofthehare, slow down, relax.
[09:21] <x> mazda01, yea I just figured that out on google
[09:21] <x> mazda01, that is the one i was talking about.
[09:21] <mazda01> footofthehare, what is the issue?
[09:22] <Raghu__> ikonia: but the backtrace logs shows that libc is picked from this location /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
[09:22] <bobweaver> footofthehare: no you do not worse case boot live cd mount hard drive and chroot it then rm the nvidia that locks you up
[09:22] <x> mazda01, if you select a disk, on the right it shows its status if it's healthy or has bad sectors! you can even do benchmarks on it.
[09:22] <x> deej1976, thanks also.
[09:22] <ikonia> Raghu__: sounds like your spec file is not aligned then
[09:22] <mazda01> x ah, ok. i love the Main Menu choice in my 10.04 install, cause it shows me exactly what menu choices are and what exact command they are. Did that stay in 10.10, 11.04, and 11.10?
[09:22] <footofthehare> I removed the nvidia drivers that were installed to get the 64 bit ones, and the guide was following said that after i removed them i just need to go into a terminal when i reset and install the new ones but i see no terminal just the purple screen
[09:23] <mazda01> lol dd: writing `/dev/sdd': No space left on device
[09:23] <Raghu__> ikonia: I didnt understand your msg. I am bit new to this toolchain building
[09:23] <bobweaver> footofthehare: you have live cd ?
[09:23] <mazda01> YEAH, DONE!!!!!!
[09:23] <elagoz> i don't hv anything in manger files ?
[09:23] <x> mazda01, idk cause this was an Xubuntu (xfce ubuntu) install that I changed to fluxbox, so I make my own custom menu entry's for programs I actually use, some times like just a second ago it can be annoying to find a programs name when it's nothing to do with the package heh ;-) but I love fluxbox so it's worth it. and it does auto-add most stuff to the menus'
[09:23] <footofthehare> going to burn one with the laptop i guess i had one but i gave it away, lol
[09:23] <footofthehare> so i need live cd?
[09:23] <theadmin> elagoz: So what, just access it the normal way via the console...
[09:23] <ikonia> Raghu__: your compiler uses a spec file to contain it's paths on where to look/link against,
[09:23] <jasonmsp> hey all..  Where can I go for help writing expressions for searches in Evolution?
[09:24] <INodeNotHere> when i start my computer rather than the normal GUI kicking in. i get screen with the time in the top center and a small icond with the name of my computer in the center of the screen. could someone please help
[09:24] <bobweaver> footofthehare:  it is good to share
[09:24] <bobweaver> :>)
[09:24] <ikonia> Raghu__: it appears your compiler is looking at your host, rather than the toolchain or target libs
[09:24] <deej1976> footofthehare: If you've install, try ctrl+alt+f1
[09:24] <master_> how to close any program in ubuntu by forec
[09:24] <mazda01> x i tried flux before, enlightenment, and some other lightweight ones but the ease is just not there for me. been using ubuntu for 5+ years
[09:24] <theadmin> master_: pkill "program name"
[09:24] <master_> ok
[09:24] <master_> thanxxx
[09:24] <mazda01> x all of my hardware can handle gnome's heavier resource footprint
[09:24] <theadmin> master_: you can also use "xkill" in order to kill programs by clicking on their windowz
[09:24] <master_> but from were i got this option
[09:25] <happygolucky> footofthehare: you should also be able to get a terminal from ctrl alt t
[09:25] <Raghu__> ikonia: Ok, I also guess the same. Where exactly this spec file woule be and what is the name of it?
[09:25] <footofthehare> k burning live cd now
[09:25] <mazda01> footofthehare, no, you don't need a live cd
[09:25] <bobweaver> footofthehare:  good
[09:25] <theadmin> master_: Um, they are both just commands.
[09:25] <ikonia> Raghu__: it depends on your toolchain/setup, I can't help on that as I don't know wha tyou've setup
[09:25] <master_> ok
[09:25] <mazda01> footofthehare, i don't who you want help from BUT, if all you did was change some graphics drivers, you shoulkd be able to access tty1 easily
[09:25] <ikonia> Raghu__: it's not a dyanmic file, it's use when the tool chain is built
[09:25] <x> mazda01, yea I diudn't like flux the first few times, and I didn't do it for the memory use although I did go from like 24% use on xfce to 11% on flux which is nice ;-) I just like how fluxbox is and I map all my favorite programs to alt + letter keys so it's ez to launch stuff anyway. it's just very fast
[09:25] <elagoz> home & trush & Desktop & system part
[09:26] <mazda01> footofthehare, by resarting the machine, waiting for it to get to a point that its done booting, and then hit ctrl-alt-f1. log in, and correct your issue
[09:26] <Raghu__> ikonia: Can this be dependent on my mingw configure settings?
[09:26] <mazda01> x i am sure it is. everyone has their personal prefs. that's why i love linux!
[09:27] <x> mazda01, exactly unlimited options, and they are all free!
[09:27] <ikonia> Raghu__: no, that is the target build, not the toolchain components
[09:28] <mazda01> x i love FREE.......FOSS FTW
[09:28] <x> ;-p
[09:28] <Raghu__> ikonia: thanks for some clue...i will digg further if i can get more details.
[09:28] <mazda01> x yeah, the disk utility is awesome, not sure how i've not seen that this entire time. shows smart status if drive supports it also! where's the benchmarks though you said?
[09:29] <mazda01> x nevermind, i am blind. found it
[09:29] <x> mazda01, umm... select a disk then left side of the pain where the smart data is.
[09:30] <x> mazda01, I do have a 1tb with 1 bad block. just 99.9% of the time  you will get alot more bad blocks soon.
[09:30] <x> your drive has free blocks / sectors whatever to remap to.
[09:30] <mazda01> x true
[09:30] <x> this drive actually came out of a usb enclosure ( the usb part died and I think killed 1 block on this hd haha!)
[09:32] <mazda01> x LOL, check out this photo https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jqo4_HeNMJY/Tt3g8QIG9kI/AAAAAAAABX4/mXEG5Ck4_RI/s713/Screenshot1.png
[09:32] <mazda01> x "the operation concerns the hard drive" LOLOLOLOLO
[09:33] <mazda01> x the disk I am testing came out of a maxtor external firewire enclosure.
[09:33] <mazda01> firewire is so 1999
[09:33] <mazda01> lol
[09:33] <x> mazda01, you can only do a read benchmark if the disk has partitions on it I believe
[09:33] <mazda01> x just wrote zeros to it
[09:33] <x> firewire is actually alot faster than usb 2.0 I believe
[09:33] <mazda01> x i know that but with 3.0 out now
[09:34] <x> I have never used it lol
[09:34] <x> yea im kinda dumb cause the mobo I bought a year and a half ago or whatevr didn';t have it. but I dont have any 3.0 devices and by then it will be time for a new comp so it almost doesn't matter ya know?
[09:34] <x> + any 3.0 device is 2.0 compatible so.....
[09:35] <elagoz> how i can open Ntfs on Xubuntu  ?
[09:35] <mazda01> x yeah, it was hilarious. i was in Radio Shack (small electronic shop) looking around. Saw an external hdd that said USB 3.0 on it. I asked the sales guy if he knew if USB 3.0 was backwards compatiable to USB 2.0. He was like, huh?
[09:35] <wind> I've heard people saying firewire hard disks and sound boxes being more reliable.. and of course firewire hard disk will be a bit faster than 2.0, if the actual disk exceeds that 30MB/s barrier :)
[09:36] <x> !ntfs
[09:36] <mazda01> x i wanted to see how smart the guy who is selling the stuff was and obviously this was way over his head. LOL
[09:36] <x> lol
[09:36] <Lasers_> mazda01: You probably blew his mind when you said the word 'backward compatible'
[09:36] <wind> seeing many usb hard disks "drop out" suddenly and reconnecting them fixing it for a while, I can believe the argument of firewire being more reliable (or maybe it's the implementation in some cases)
[09:37] <x> all they know how to do at radioshack is sell cell phone's thats like 98% of their business now.
[09:37] <INodeNotHere> how can i run a ubuntu system upgrade from the terminal
[09:38] <wind> btw, if you dare to disable journaling of the hfs+ partition then you can use them without fuse in linux and it might be bit faster
[09:38] <x> INodeNotHere, what do you mean system upgrade, just install the new updates? or upgrade whole distribution ?
[09:38] <mazda01> then i overheard a guy wanting an adapter for his android phone that he could plug in and convert signal to composite or component connection. they were looking at the little usb mini connector. i had just grabbed a cable for my iphone to output my video/audio signal to my tv. so this poor customer wanted to do the same with his android but he must have had an older android without the output capabilities
[09:39] <x> I asked for a soldering iron once and the kid thought I was a space alien.
[09:39] <mazda01> INodeNotHere, sudo aptitude dist-upgrade?
[09:39] <INodeNotHere> mazda01: thanks
[09:39] <mazda01> INodeNotHere, although please google that first
[09:39] <INodeNotHere> mazda01: you right i should have sorry
[09:39] <mazda01> INodeNotHere, i haven't upgraded in a long time and it may have changed
[09:40] <mazda01> INodeNotHere, no, I mean I may be wrong
[09:40] <INodeNotHere> mazda01: i googled it you are right
[09:40] <mazda01> INodeNotHere, you can also issue man aptitude and read the man pages. Great toilet reading
[09:40] <blackshirt> INodeNotHere: what are you doing ?
[09:40] <astro771> i have installed wubi and get dumped to {initramfs} when I reboot saying it can't find device ... any pointers?  (win7, 64 bit ubuntu 11.10 )
[09:41] <INodeNotHere> mazda01: haha thanks
[09:41] <footofthehare> ok now it seems like my keyboard isn't even working to let my into bios or anything
[09:41] <x> INodeNotHere, update current updates. or to a new ver of ubuntu!?!?
[09:41] <blackshirt> astro771: i think wubi just "helper" for windows-alumny :D
[09:41] <footofthehare>  mn1
[09:41] <mazda01> INodeNotHere, or man apt-get   and I was dead serious. THe "man" pages are very very helpful
[09:41] <INodeNotHere> blackshirt: the power cut during an dist upgrade and now my system is not bootable. so i thought i could chroot my ubuntu install and run the updade from the terminal
[09:41] <footofthehare> *+--------------------------
[09:41] <footofthehare> ++++*-----------------------------------------------------
[09:41] <FloodBot1> footofthehare: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:41] <Lasers_> !upgrades | INodeNotHere
[09:42] <footofthehare> sorry i was trying the keyboard on this laptop it's not working on either wtf
[09:42] <INodeNotHere> blackshirt: thats not true, the system does boot. but when the gui kicks in all i get is an icon and my computer name in the center of the screen. and not the normal gnome GUI
[09:42] <mazda01> INodeNotHere, you could try to drop to tty1, issue sudo aptitude remove --purge gnome-desktop. then install that again
[09:42] <astro771> blackshirt: yes want to run with Win7 but boot device seems lost ... I have a root.disk  and swap.disk file but it doesn't seem to be able to find them
[09:43] <mazda01> too much going on, lol
[09:43] <INodeNotHere> mazda01: thanks that sounds like a great idea
[09:43] <mazda01> if no one else needs me, i am off to bed
[09:44] <auronandace> astro771: if you are serious about using ubuntu then wubi is not the way to go
[09:44] <blackshirt> INodeNotHere: can you boot on single mode ?
[09:44] <truepurple> Something changed with nautilus and it no longer has a list to the left of drives and stuff, how do I get that back?
[09:44] <mazda01> auronandace, that's sort of incorrect thing to say IMO
[09:44] <Lasers_> truepurple: Toggle on "Sidebar" in one of the file menu.
[09:45] <x> mazda01, I think he is right though honestly....
[09:45] <Lasers_> truepurple: Press F9 could work. I'm not on linux right now so I can't check that really fast. :(
[09:45] <mazda01> truepurple, ins't it under View, then check mark sidepane?
[09:45] <blackshirt> astro771: i have no play with wubi, but if you want, i think maybe better to install on dedicated partition
[09:45] <mazda01> Lasers, yeap, F9 works
[09:45] <skegeek> I was setting up ebox, and now i cannot login to my accounts because ldap password is incorrect. Any way to reset?
[09:45] <Lasers_> mazda01: Cool. Thx. :)
[09:45] <auronandace> mazda01: howso? wubi is meant to be a demo or preview for those only comfortable with windows systems. (linux was never meant to be installed through windows)
[09:46] <mazda01> auronandace, because something was "never meant" for something, that means it can become so? Was man meant to fly? was man meant to go into out space?
[09:47] <INodeNotHere> blackshirt: what is single mode?
[09:47] <mazda01> auronandace, wubi is meant for the lowly windows users who wants to try out ubuntu, and the ubuntu install from wubi can NOW be moved if so desired to it's own dual boot setup.
[09:47] <INodeNotHere> blackshirt: you mean single user mode?
[09:47] <happygolucky> i think he's talking about run levels
[09:48] <happygolucky> but i just glanced into this
[09:48] <astro771> blackshirt: auronandance: fair enough, I am not sure I want to "seriously" use it yet ...
[09:48] <theadmin> happygolucky: There're no runlevels in Ubuntu
[09:48] <INodeNotHere> happygolucky: i think so to, i have never done this before. how wil this help
[09:48] <lahwran> if a glyph cannot be found in the current font, are other fonts searched? if so, how does the ordering of this search work? ie, what fonts do I have to copy to other oses for it to work
[09:48] <mazda01> INodeNotHere, trying single user mode, or fail safe mode from grub most liekly wont solve your issue
[09:48] <happygolucky> all right well just going on the word single, i was away from keyboard etc.
[09:48] <mahasona> Hi everyone , I'm having a little issue with installing my usb model . I'm using prolink phs100 . the manul says to use sudo rmmod usbserial
[09:49] <blackshirt> INodeNotHere: yeah, single user mode ?
[09:49] <mahasona> but when I do I get this error ERROR: Module usbserial is in use by option,usb_wwan
[09:49] <INodeNotHere> mazda01: the system does boot fine, i think the issue is something todo with gnome. i get everything OK when the system boots. just the GUI doesnt kick in right
[09:49] <mazda01> INodeNotHere, if it did crash during a upgrade, you just have to work thru the items that didn't get upgraded OR start again BUT first backing up your stuff you can't lose. so you would use a live cd or usb stick, mount the partition you want to restrieve data from, save it elsewhere, then feel confident you can do a fresh install
[09:49] <INodeNotHere> mazda01: sounds like a plan, thanks
[09:49] <astro771> I tried to install it while Microsoft Clikc-to-run had a virtual partition available and the install crapped out on it ... removing the virtual partiiton and trying again ... unable to get it working
[09:50] <mazda01> INodeNotHere, well, if it is merely a gnome thing, drop to tty1 and install a new desktop manager
[09:50] <blackshirt> INodeItHere: i think you can recovery throuhg console for getting gnome back
[09:50] <mahasona> anyone ?
[09:50] <blackshirt> mahasona, if you have question, just ask ..
[09:51] <astro771> given that I need to create a dedicated partition -- will the ubuntu installer be able to resize a ntfs partition during install or will I have to do it in Windoze?
[09:51] <mahasona> I did , blackshirt wait lemme repeat again
[09:51] <mahasona> Hi everyone , I'm having a little issue with installing my usb model . I'm using prolink phs100 . the manul says to use sudo rmmod usbserial
[09:51] <mahasona> but when I do I get this error ERROR: Module usbserial is in use by option,usb_wwan
[09:51] <theadmin> astro771: It can resize ntfs but SLOOOOWLY, I suggest doing it in Windows instead
[09:51] <INodeNotHere> mazda01: i think there might be more to it than that, first i will run an updrade-dist through chroot, i just need to figure out what "cp: not writing through dangling symlink `/mnt/etc/resolv.conf'" means first, trying to get dns working in the chroot
[09:51] <astro771> theadmin: thanks
[09:52] <blackshirt> mahasona: are you mean usb modem ?
[09:52] <mazda01> INodeNotHere, like xfce4 or even kde
[09:52] <skegeek> Anyone know how to recover LDAP password? The master password I set during ebox installation isn't working. I can't access my user account or root!
[09:52] <lamah> how can i stop fallback mode?
[09:52] <x> INodeNotHere, doesn't dangling symlink mean wherever it's pointing is not there ?
[09:52] <lamah> in gnome3
[09:53] <blackshirt> astro771: you can resize ntfs with gparted
[09:53] <theadmin> lamah: Install graphic drivers.
[09:53] <mahasona> blackshirt: yes
[09:53] <blackshirt> mahasona: what your modem type card ?
[09:53] <mazda01> INodeNotHere, why? you can't connect to the internet?
[09:53] <lamah> theadmin: i have graphic driver
[09:53] <theadmin> lamah: If gnome3 forces fallback, you don't have one that works properly.
[09:53] <mahasona> usb prolink phs100
[09:54] <blackshirt> mahasona: are you on ubuntu box right now ?
[09:54] <mazda01> well, i gotta get to bed. it's 3:54 am here. good night! y'all
[09:54] <lamah> theadmin: but with driver from amd.com again when gnome is started i got the fallback  mode
[09:54] <mahasona> yes, Im using 10.10
[09:54] <theadmin> lamah: You sure you installed it properly and it's loaded and works?
[09:54] <blackshirt> can you connect to internet through your modem now ?
[09:55] <astro771> blackshirt: so I can used gparted from a liveCD ... option ot resize is greyed out ... should I unmount it and then resize it?
[09:55] <theadmin> lamah: lsmod | grep fglrx
[09:55] <mahasona> no , I'm connected trought one of my friends network
[09:55] <makedonec> :D
[09:55] <mahasona> trough *
[09:55] <lamah> theadmin: no on setup after before finishing the setup, gives core dumped
[09:55] <lamah> theadmin: ati installer
[09:55] <blackshirt> astro771: maybe need ntfs-3g for write partition
[09:55] <theadmin> lamah: That means it didn't install... So what do you expect
[09:55] <makedonec> kiko
[09:55] <ucenik11> fsadf
[09:55] <ucenik11> hahaha
[09:55] <makedonec> :D
[09:56] <theadmin> lamah: Use jockey, it should help
[09:56] <ucenik11> kolku dishi ima ?
[09:56] <ucenik11> dushi*
[09:56] <ucenik11> ??
[09:56] <makedonec> 1544 users
[09:56] <mahasona> blackshirt: , I'm connected trough one of my friends network
[09:56] <lamah> theadmin: what is a jockey
[09:56] <blackshirt> mahasona: network-manager can't detect your modem ?
[09:56] <mahasona> yes
[09:57] <theadmin> lamah: It's the "Additional Drivers" tool that you can find in your menues, or just start from a terminal: jockey-gtk
[09:57] <blackshirt> mahasona: try to use wvdial, have you try it ?
[09:57] <footofthehare> ok is there any reason why a keyboard would stop working all of a sudden while using the live cd and then not even work when booting to get into bios
[09:57] <makedonec> :D
[09:57] <mahasona> what is that ? blackshirt
[09:57] <footofthehare> it still works on a different computer
[09:58] <footofthehare> i can't even do a fresh install now because i'm stuck at the select cdrom type screen, so confused
[09:58] <bullgard6> http://f-spot.org/Features: "Photo Editor: Editing photos in F-Spot is a breeze. Easily rotate, crop, resize, and adjust red eye and other color settings with a few simple clicks." Whatdoes here »crop« mean?
[09:58] <blackshirt> mahasona: console based dialer... just install it and then run wvdialconf to see if your modem detected
[09:58] <blackshirt> mahasona: is your modem gsm or cdma based ?
[09:58] <mahasona> blackshirt: I'll lookup on google and see about that , give me minit , and its gsm
[09:58] <llutz_> bullgard6: "crop" in graphical programs usually means "take parts of a picture" (Ausschnitt)
[09:59] <makedonec> so kate te be :D\
[09:59] <blackshirt> mahasona: waiting for that
[09:59] <footofthehare> the numlock light doesn't even come on ive never had a keyboard stop working like this before
[10:00] <AdvoWork> Hi there, im trying to do (in /etc/fstab) //IP/FOLDER/FOLDER /mnt/folder/ cifs guest  and it says wrong fs type, bad option when i do sudo mount -a   I fixed this on another client the other day by sudo apt-get install *something* but not sure what, ive tried nfs-common. Any ideas please?
[10:01] <llutz_> AdvoWork: apt-get install smbfs
[10:01] <hellozh_> 怎样配置gtk的环境变量呢？
[10:02] <llutz_> !cn | hellozh_
[10:02] <AdvoWork> thanks llutz
[10:03] <happygolucky> footofthehare: are you able to pass boot options prior to lockup
[10:03] <happygolucky> netsplit?
[10:03] <hellozh_> ok.thanks
[10:04] <mahasona> blackshirt:  Cannot open /dev/ttyUSB1: Device or resource busy
[10:05] <hellozh_> #join #ubuntu-cn
[10:05] <llutz_>  /join #ubuntu-cn hellozh_
[10:05] <inashdeen> hi how do i find files using terminal. i learnt last time, it uses iname or something. thanks in advance
[10:05] <blackshirt> mahasona : what command are you issued ?
[10:05] <llutz_> inashdeen: find path/ -iname partofname
[10:05] <hellozh_> locate
[10:06] <hellozh_> locate files
[10:06] <happygolucky> inashdeen: find / -name '*yeah*' 2>/dev/null
[10:06] <mahasona> just wvdial blackshirt , I got the same recourse busy comment 3 times
[10:07] <StepNjump> good night to all!
[10:07] <happygolucky> thanks step
[10:07] <Kaco> night? it's 11am here ;-)
[10:07] <blackshirt> mahasona: try $sudo wvdialconf
[10:08] <blackshirt> for first run
[10:09] <hellozh_> i want to know , are you Americans?
[10:09] <muhammed> no
[10:09] <hellozh_> ?
[10:10] <llutz_> never
[10:10] <muhammed> Indian
[10:10] <hellozh_> i see
[10:10] <muhammed> u ??
[10:10] <hellozh_> china
[10:10] <muhammed> Hmm
[10:10] <inashdeen> happygolucky : thanks
[10:10] <hellozh_> Americans
[10:10] <hellozh_> Urumqi
[10:10] <Kaco> i'm from europe
[10:10] <happygolucky> np
[10:10] <inashdeen> llutz_ : thanks
[10:10] <ikonia> ok guys, where you are from isn't a massive issue in this channel
[10:10] <ikonia> you can still ask for Ubuntu support
[10:11] <muhammed> i'm new here
[10:11] <muhammed> ...
[10:11] <inashdeen> second question my friend, how do i delete unnecessary files from my system. i've used bleachbit and ubuntu tweak, but i do realise there are still remnants
[10:11] <blackshirt> muhammed: if there your question here, just ask
[10:12] <happygolucky> AdvoWork: is what you're looking to install smbfs?
[10:12] <ikonia> inashdeen: ubuntu-tweak is not something I'd recommend
[10:12] <ikonia> inashdeen: you just remove the files you no longer want/need using the file manager
[10:12] <theadmin> inashdeen: That should be clean enough. You can also safely wipe /tmp and /var/log/ unless you need stuff in those
[10:12] <p-dot> could someone please give me some guidance with an issue with ubuntu 11.10 software centre?
[10:12] <theadmin> p-dot: Just name the issue
[10:12] <blackshirt> p-dot: what your problem with usc
[10:13] <llutz> one don't want to wipe /var/log at runtime while (r)syslogd runs
[10:13] <muhammed> is this discussion forum??
[10:13] <p-dot> i bring up swc and nothing happens the window just stays white and i cant view new progs installed or anything
[10:13] <ikonia> muhammed: ubuntu support discussion yes
[10:13] <theadmin> llutz: Yeah makes stuff act weird until the next reboot, but nothing too major
[10:13] <theadmin> muhammed: This is IRC.
[10:13] <happygolucky> inashdeen: apt-get clean is something i do regularly as well as --purge when removing packages, other than that i dont know
[10:13] <muhammed> means what??
[10:14] <muhammed> ok
[10:14] <muhammed> ...
[10:14] <inashdeen> theadmin : basically what is /tmp and what is /var/log. i am remastering ubuntu, the last time i used bleachbit, the custom iso wont boot
[10:14] <blackshirt> p-dot: maybe better you are use aptitude/apt-get
[10:14] <RTYGY45> muhammed what are you looking for ?
[10:14] <theadmin> inashdeen: /tmp is for temporary files of all sorts, /var/log is system logs
[10:14] <muhammed> i can't find my php.ini file
[10:15] <blackshirt> muhammed: this is IRC channel
[10:15] <p-dot> blackshirt could u explain better? Im anoob
[10:15] <blackshirt> muhammed: you can use find/locate to show your php.ini
[10:15] <TACPILOT> been trying to compile some code for days. new to ubuntu .. installed the headers but no linux link was made to the current headers in /usr/src . created link by hand.
[10:15] <blackshirt> p-dot: goest to your terminal, and run aptitude
[10:16] <ikonia> TACPILOT: what are you trying to build
[10:16] <p-dot> sudo apt-get aptitude     ???
[10:16] <blackshirt> p-dot: i don't like usc for install/remove package
[10:16] <TACPILOT> trying to compile a new version of busybox but is failing .. applying the recommended patch to header files has no effect
[10:16] <blackshirt> p-dot: just $sudo aptitude
[10:16] <hellozh_> can you send me some pdf of gtk?
[10:16] <blackshirt> p-dot: i think, usc bit a slow for me
[10:16] <ikonia> TACPILOT: why are you doing this ? ubuntu packages a stable version of busy box
[10:17] <p-dot> sudo: aptitude: command not found
[10:17] <TACPILOT> assembling a cluster via perceus and trying to update perceus with 3.0 kernels and modern packages
[10:17] <deej1976> p-dot: terminal: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[10:18] <TACPILOT> there is an issue with busybox > 1.19 and kernels > 3.0
[10:18] <blackshirt> p-dot: sorry for my last "forgot", aptitude not default installed by ubuntu.. you can use $sudo apt-get -f install for fixing error on your packages
[10:19] <ikonia> TACPILOT: not quite seeing how this is an ubuntu issue, could you expand on your setup a little please.
[10:19] <TACPILOT> I am new to ubuntu so I figure it may be how the build environment is setup
[10:20] <ikonia> TACPILOT: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[10:20] <TACPILOT> latest
[10:20] <p-dot> ok did that
[10:20] <ikonia> TACPILOT: which one
[10:20] <p-dot> now what
[10:20] <ikonia> TACPILOT: exactly which version
[10:21] <p-dot> i cant even close the software center window thats opened
[10:21] <p-dot> alt - f4 doesnt it
[10:21] <blackshirt> p-dot: you can kill it
[10:22] <lmg> ahoi people
[10:22] <inashdeen> i am using bleachbit now. i saw an option delete backup files. what is that?
[10:22] <lmg> say, any known issues with ubuntus current pthreads + openmp ?
[10:22] <TACPILOT> this should be a relatively generic question regarding the standard ubuntu build environment
[10:23] <ikonia> TACPILOT: could you please answer the questions I'm asking so I can understand your environment and problem
[10:24] <TACPILOT> 11 - 64 bit
[10:24] <ikonia> TACPILOT: 11 what
[10:24] <ikonia> TACPILOT: there are two 11 versions
[10:24] <Holy-Cornholio> lol.
[10:24] <TACPILOT> .04
[10:24] <syed> hi
[10:25] <ikonia> TACPILOT: ok, so are you following this guide http://www.perceus.org/site/html/debian_quickstart.html ?
[10:25] <TACPILOT> not aplicable to the current project
[10:25] <ikonia> TACPILOT: what are you actually trying to do then
[10:26] <ikonia> what guide are you following
[10:26] <TACPILOT> trying to get busybox to compile with a 3.0 kernel
[10:26] <RTYGY45> how do i ask ubuntu in the command prompt to install gnome GUI ?
[10:26] <RTYGY45> apt-get install gnome..?
[10:26] <TACPILOT> I applied the recommended patch to the header files
[10:27] <ikonia> TACPILOT: ok - why are you trying to do this as the busybox version ubuntu ships is compatible with the 3.0 kernel
[10:27] <ikonia> TACPILOT: the 11.X repos contain busybox that is compatible with 3.X kernel
[10:27] <TACPILOT> however is like the build system doesnt even know there there
[10:28] <ikonia> TACPILOT: the 11.X repos contain busybox that is compatible with the 3.X kernel, so why are you trying to build another version ?
[10:28] <TACPILOT> why does it never fail I spend more time trying to justify a project and its needs then actualy getting answers
[10:29] <ikonia> TACPILOT: because it's important to understand the question and the situation
[10:29] <ikonia> TACPILOT: so many people do the wrong thing because they are not aware of option
[10:30] <TACPILOT> the question still reamains .. is there something I need to do with the header files after applying a patch that will enable the system to utilize the change ?
[10:30] <ikonia> TACPILOT: is there a reason you are dodging the question
[10:30] <ikonia> why are you trying to build a busy box version, when the 11.x repos contain busy box that is compatible with the 3.X kernel
[10:30] <ikonia> is there a specific reason you can't use that version ?
[10:31] <TACPILOT> see what I mean .. since I been here I have asked one question and still all i get is a dance
[10:32] <ikonia> TACPILOT: it's easier if you just answer the questions so we can understand your situation/reasoning better and help
[10:32] <TACPILOT> what question is that ?
[10:33] <ikonia> TACPILOT: why you are trying to build your own version of busy box, when the 11.X repos contain a pre-compiled version that is compatible with the 3.X kernel
[10:34] <TACPILOT> perhaps its the wrong version .. but still that question has nothing to do with answering mine
[10:35] <ikonia> TACPILOT: it is, you should use the ubuntu pre-built version, it's compatible with the 3.0 kernel as you initially wanted
[10:35] <soreau> ! attitude | TACPILOT
[10:35] <DarsVaeda> in unity when hitting win+alt+arrorkey there pop up some little numbers, counting the items and such, what is that for, just left over developer code?
[10:35] <ikonia> TACPILOT: you're using 11.X, and 3.X kernel, the busy box version in the repo would be a much better option, it works, it's pre-packaged, it's supported
[10:36] <TACPILOT> yes that would work for 99% of situation .. but then if that was a solution I wouldnt be here in the first place.
[10:36] <soreau> FD
[10:37] <ikonia> TACPILOT: ok, so explain the problem you're having with the ubuntu version
[10:37] <ikonia> again, the more we understand your situation, the better help you can get
[10:37] <TACPILOT> I apply the recommended patch to the headers .. its like the build system doesnt see the change
[10:37] <soreau> TACPILOT: You are wasting time by not answering the question. If you could give a valid reason for building it, someone might be apt to help you
[10:38] <ikonia> TACPILOT: what recommended patches ???? what is the actual problem
[10:38] <muhammed> empathy is not working properly latest ubuntu
[10:38] <ikonia> TACPILOT: if we can understand what you're doing and why, it's easier to help
[10:38] <TACPILOT> getting link brb
[10:38] <ikonia> actually, I can't be bothered any more, I'm not here to beg people to give me help with their problems.
[10:39] <styelz> DarsVaeda: you dont need to press the ALT key,   just press the WINDOWS key and press the coresponding number or leter shown . its keyboard shortcuts to the unity sidebar
[10:39] <ikonia> TACPILOT: you want to get a direct answer, no questions "Contact the patch maintainers and ask them why their patch doesn't work or build"
[10:40] <ikonia> TACPILOT: there is your direct answer, no other questions, no reasoning, contact the people who wrote the patches and ask them for support
[10:40] <TACPILOT> http://git.buildroot.net/buildroot/tree/toolchain/kernel-headers/linux-3.0.12-headers_install-fix-__packed-in-exported-kernel-head.patch
[10:40] <DarsVaeda> styelz: neat! where do I find such stuff described? I only stumble upon them by random chance...
[10:40] <ikonia> TACPILOT: contact the patch maintainers, we don't support those peoples patches
[10:40] <ikonia> TACPILOT: ask them for help why their patches are not working
[10:40] <ikonia> good luck
[10:41] <TACPILOT> snub me for not kissing the ring .. :S
[10:41] <ikonia> TACPILOT: no, for not giving any information after being asked approx 10 times, good luck with the patch maintainers
[10:41] <inashdeen> how do i delete history listed in ubuntu software center?
[10:41] <theadmin> Well that was weird.
[10:42] <TACPILOT> I have given more info than has ever been needed to answer the question
[10:42] <ikonia> TACPILOT: good luck with the patch maintainers
[10:43] <MrUnamed> hello
[10:43] <styelz> DarsVaeda: open Help, under unity Menu, type help to find it.. lots of info there
[10:43] <soreau> TACPILOT: You have not explained what problem you are having with the busybox version included with ubuntu
[10:44] <TACPILOT> I answered every question u asked yet u have not answered the single one I asked ... is there any one here familiar with the build environment ?
[10:44] <inashdeen> hi i am usin pidgin. is there any effects if i delete /usr/share/empathy files?
[10:44] <styelz> DarsVaeda: when help window appears, type in Keyboard Shortcuts and you will see all the links to this info
[10:44] <ikonia> inashdeen: what's in that directory
[10:44] <ikonia> inashdeen: are they taking up space ?
[10:44] <DarsVaeda> styelz: I see thanks
[10:44] <theadmin> inashdeen: No, but you should "sudo apt-get --purge remove empathy" rather than emptying out package files manually...
[10:45] <inashdeen> ikonia : not taking up space really , but i want my system to be smaller :)
[10:45] <ikonia> inashdeen: how much space would you get removing those files ?
[10:45] <inashdeen> 1mb
[10:46] <ikonia> inashdeen: ok, so empathy is built into the unity desktop, do you really want to save 1MB of space that bad ?
[10:46] <ikonia> inashdeen: try removing the empathy package from the package manager, it should remove those files if they are not needed
[10:46] <hrolf> Hey, I'm on Ubuntu 11.10 and trying Windows Key + 1 to get Home folder, but I already have it open what should I do so that when I press it I get a new window?
[10:46] <muhammed> is there any other software like empathy
[10:46] <muhammed> ??
[10:46] <MrPopinjay> Pidgin
[10:47] <muhammed> hrolf
[10:47] <muhammed> :
[10:47] <ikonia> muhammed: pidgin comes and goes
[10:47] <ikonia> what ?
[10:47] <hrolf> muhammed: ?
[10:47] <muhammed> press Ctrl + N
[10:47] <TACPILOT> why does any one need to justify what they are doing with a project.. ?  if a canned solution would have fixed the issue I would have gone that way.   I have a need .. I have a question .. why is it so difficult to get and answer ?
[10:47] <muhammed> hrolf : worked???
[10:47] <hrolf> muhammed: Yes :)
[10:47] <hrolf> muhammed: Thanks.
[10:47] <ikonia> TACPILOT: the answer is we don't support those patches, nor do we know why they don't work, if you contact the people who make those patches they should be able to help you
[10:47] <bkerensa> TACPILOT: What do you need help with
[10:47] <muhammed> ok
[10:48] <muhammed> ...
[10:48] <muhammed> :)
[10:48] <jfer> hrolf: try middle click also for multiple instances.
[10:48] <soreau> TACPILOT: The reason is because we want to be able to fix issues with components of ubuntu if there is a real problem
[10:49] <RTYGY45> there are a difference between a coder and developer and a user
[10:49] <jfer> hrolf: window +shift + 1 also works
[10:49] <RTYGY45> you are talking to users
[10:49] <TACPILOT> my question is with the standard build environment .. how do u get the system to see changes made to the installed headers ?
[10:49] <RTYGY45> you have a problem with a patch or a code then go ask the right people
[10:49] <soreau> TACPILOT: By helping us understand what is wrong, you could potentially help other users which is what the open source philosophy provides
[10:49] <KFP> How can I find my stuff in Unity?   I just upgraded from 10.10, and now I can no longer find my main data hard drive.   It used to be nicely listed in the "System" menu, but nothing like that is no longer around.
[10:50] <ikonia> TACPILOT: how are you changing the installed headers ?
[10:50] <KFP> (Well, yes, I can find it in the terminal.)
[10:50] <KFP> ...But isn't there any GUI access to it?
[10:50] <TACPILOT> I directly patch the file
[10:50] <ikonia> TACPILOT: what command are you using to patch the headers
[10:50] <hrolf> jfer: That's what I was looking for. Opening a new instance of the app. For Ctrl + N to work I must be in the Home folder (or in Nautilius)
[10:51] <TACPILOT> because of version differences patch wont work so I had to do it by hand
[10:51] <jfer> hrolf: yes that should work for any app that you want a new instance of.
[10:51] <muhammed> is there any other software like empathy which can be minimized like empathy
[10:51] <ikonia> TACPILOT: right so you've changed the files by hand, so you know they are different
[10:51] <muhammed> ??
[10:51] <ikonia> TACPILOT: so the build process will see them as different based on what you've changed
[10:52] <ikonia> TACPILOT: so what is the issue ?
[10:52] <TACPILOT> content is still valid
[10:52] <ikonia> TACPILOT: so what is the issue then ?
[10:52] <TACPILOT> is there a command needed to run to update the build environment to see changes made to the headers ?
[10:52] <ikonia> no, it's dynamic
[10:53] <ikonia> TACPILOT: what is the actual issue you are seeing
[10:53] <TACPILOT> I  can completely empty /usr/src/linux yet its like headers are still present in the system ??
[10:54] <ikonia> TACPILOT: why do you think that ?
[10:54] <Besogon> Hi. Have you notived that If you use Chrome or google chrome extensively it become freezing on web page downloading?
[10:54] <ikonia> TACPILOT: I don't believe there should be /usr/src/linux on ubuntu
[10:54] <ikonia> TACPILOT: I don't think it works like a generic symlink on redhat versions
[10:55] <TACPILOT> new to this environment other distos I used required it .. is why I am not understanding
[10:55] <sgo11> hi, I am upgrading to 11.10 from 11.04 online. The state is 'Installing the upgrades about 8 minutes left'. I don't know if I press anything wrong by mistake or something weird happens. The popup window tells me "Could not install the upgrades: the upgrade has aborted. Your system could be in an unusable state. A recovery will run now(dpkg -configure-a)." what to do? should I click the 'Close' button? Currently, I still have unity running.....
[10:55] <TACPILOT> i made link for it was not there
[10:55] <ikonia> TACPILOT: ok, so that maybe part of the issue, /usr/src/linux isn't how ubuntu does it (compared to redhat)
[10:55] <TACPILOT> k
[10:55] <ikonia> TACPILOT: ok, so you're doing your own thing, whcih is possibly why this isn't working
[10:56] <DarsVaeda> another question about unity :( I have libreoffice opened, but there is no icon in the launcher/sidebar/window-desktop chooser, how do I get my libreoffice back?
[10:56] <TACPILOT> like I said new to this build environment
[10:56] <mr_lou> Hey. I've just installed Ubuntu 11.10 at work. Running an older version at home. Why can't I rearrange the Close-Window X _ [_] buttons on windows anymore? And where do I move the side-bar? It's on the left, I want it on the right.
[10:57] <TACPILOT> where does ubuntu store reference to current valid headers ?
[10:57] <deej1976> DarsVaeda: Have you tried ALT-TAB
[10:57] <DarsVaeda> yes there is nothing too
[10:58] <ikonia> TACPILOT: I've answered your original question as you asked - I'm not helping any more as I shouldn't have to beg for you to give me information in order to help you
[10:58] <TACPILOT> I could have headers and full sources for a half dozen kernels .. how does it know which to compile against ?
[10:58] <ikonia> TACPILOT: there are documents on https://wiki.ubuntu.com and https://help.ubuntu.com
[10:58] <DarsVaeda> if I just open the file again then the window pops up again, but that is not like a solution ;)
[10:58] <KFP> Where in Unity can I find my other hard drive?   The "Files & Folders" option in the launcher only lists stuff in the "Home" folder.
[10:59] <deej1976> DarsVaeda: Are you sure libreoffice is running?
[10:59] <DarsVaeda> yep
[10:59] <DarsVaeda> the file is locked
[10:59] <TACPILOT> my question is and has always been about the build system ... all those other questions just clouded the issue
[10:59] <theadmin> KFP: Just start the filemanager, nautilus, it should have them listed on the left side
[10:59] <DarsVaeda> and as said if I open the file "again" I get back the window
[11:00] <TACPILOT> I could have headers and full sources for a half dozen kernels .. how does it know which to compile against ?
[11:00] <deej1976> So in a terminal "ps -ef | grep libreoffice" show it running
[11:00] <DarsVaeda> yep
[11:01] <DarsVaeda> it also happens when I have the window opened seeing it
[11:01] <Sidewinder1> sgo11, Since there's a problem, I wouldn't close anything; just let it "do it's thing".
[11:01] <muhammed> some applications cannot be removed from system which are installed using wine
[11:01] <DarsVaeda> visible on the desktop, there still is no icon
[11:02] <TACPILOT>  if there are headers and full sources for a half dozen kernels in /usr/src  how does it know which to compile against ?
[11:02] <deej1976> DarsVaeda: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66802/why-doesnt-the-libreoffice-icon-appear-on-my-launcher-when-running
[11:02] <ikonia> !repeat | TACPILOT
[11:02] <sgo11> Sidewinder1, I have restarted the laptop. I have partial 11.10 now. what to do? thanks.
[11:03] <llutz> TACPILOT: doesn't it use /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build now?
[11:03] <TACPILOT> I didnt expect that to be a difficult question for the pros here
[11:03] <trijntje> gnome-terminal keeps segfaulting on oneiric, how can I get more information about whats going on?
[11:03] <DarsVaeda> "Unity 3D was having a bad day and needed a break." :D
[11:03] <TACPILOT> not sure?
[11:03] <DarsVaeda> deej1976: okay thanks I'll try that
[11:04] <sgo11> this is so crazy. how can an upgrade be aborted like this?
[11:04] <Sidewinder1> sgo11, I know it's not what you wanna' hear, but, I have no idea why. :-(
[11:05] <sgo11> Sidewinder1, thanks for the reply. it doesn't matter why now. what to do next to have a full 11.10 installation?
[11:06] <sgo11> so far, the OS is kinda working. I have no idea what's missing.
[11:06] <Sidewinder1> sgo11, Hope you backed up everything prior to; any specific error messages, other than couldn't upgrade?
[11:07] <ikonia> sgo11: it maybe worth backing up anything you want now, and look at doing a re-install
[11:07] <sgo11> Sidewinder1, no error message at all. it just said the upgrade is aborted.
[11:08] <mbrochh> hi all, does anyone know about a nice "distraction free" text editor, that can be run in fullscreen and displays the text in a column centered on screen?
[11:08] <Myrtti> mbrochh: pyroom
[11:08] <mbrochh> normal text editors align to the left, which looks like shit on fullscreen.
[11:08] <Myrtti> I think it fits the bill
[11:09] <mbrochh> Myrtti: looks nice, does it have vim keybindings?
[11:09] <ikonia> Myrtti: easy on the language please
[11:09] <ikonia> doh
[11:09] <ikonia> mbrochh: easy on the language please
[11:09] <Sidewinder1> sgo11, Also, I'm on 10.04, so I'm not sure how much help I can be, trouble-shooting 11.10. I'd just keep trying it until something goes "Hinckey." I wonder if it may have been a 'false error message'.
[11:09] <Myrtti> mbrochh: have no idea, I use emacs :-P
[11:09] <ikonia> Myrtti: sorry
[11:09] <sgo11> ikonia, anything easier than re-install? it seems the partial 11.10 is working properly. I just don't know what it's missing. the upgrade process was aborted when there are only 8 minutes left. (out of more than 1 hour installation process).
[11:09] <Myrtti> ikonia: no prob, just got me confused for a fraction of a second
[11:10] <ikonia> sgo11: personally, the failed installs never leave a good state, in my view. the best option to me is always a clean install to go to a known good install state
[11:10] <ikonia> sgo11: I fully understand that's a big step though
[11:10] <sgo11> Sidewinder1, ok. thanks for the reply.
[11:10] <Myrtti> mbrochh: https://answers.launchpad.net/pyroom/+question/60925
[11:11] <llutz> sgo11: tried "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[11:11] <sgo11> ikonia, ok. thanks.... I shouldn't click the 'upgrade' button at all....
[11:11] <Sidewinder1> ikonia, Last thing I was gonna' do was suggest re-install to sgo11; I remember... :-)
[11:11] <ikonia> it's not a great approach, I agree
[11:11] <sgo11> llutz, what is that? I can try that.
[11:12] <deej1976> !info focuswriter | mbrochh
[11:13] <mbrochh> deej1976: funny, JUST at this second i opened the focuswriter website :)
[11:13] <sgo11> llutz, running the apt-get -f install. thanks a lot. it starts to install flash now.....
[11:13] <deej1976> mbrochh: Been a bit of press about writing package took be a few seconds to dig it up
[11:14] <Saphyy> Hi. I have a laptop with nvidia optimus (msi ge620dx). I can only run ubuntu with the boot kernel option nomodeset. I can't turn off the CPU graphics card thingie in the BIOS. How do i approach this problem?
[11:15] <KamZou> Hi, is there any way in Apache to configure my site with a password authentication (AuthType Basic) for everybody except 1 ip => this ip don't have to specify a password ?!
[11:15] <ikonia> KamZou: may find it easier to firewall port 80
[11:15] <ikonia> KamZou: unless you want others to see it if they enter the password
[11:16] <ikonia> KamZou: if that's the case look at maybe .htaccess files ?
[11:16] <stinkfist> What software to instal to use my built in laptop camera?
[11:17] <ikonia> !webcam | stinkfist
[11:17] <KamZou> ikonia, i want everybody can see the website
[11:17] <ikonia> KamZou: ok, look at htaccess
[11:17] <KamZou> but for a specific IP, no login/password
[11:17] <Sidewinder1> !rootirc | Guest7839
[11:18] <KamZou> ikonia, indeed i'm already in this part of the task ... not .htaccess but <limitation> in my vhost
[11:18] <KamZou> but don't know the syntax =/
[11:18] <mr_lou> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy#Desktop_Themes  <--- where is this in v11.10?
[11:18] <ikonia> KamZou: never used "limitations", htaccess is fine/simple though
[11:18] <Saphyy> Hi. I have a laptop with nvidia optimus (msi ge620dx). I can only run ubuntu with the boot kernel option nomodeset. I can't turn off the CPU graphics card thingie in the BIOS. How do i approach this problem?
[11:18] <Daekdroom> mr_lou, it changed
[11:19] <Daekdroom> Some themeing options are available at the wallpaper selection window
[11:19] <mr_lou> Daekdroom, So I can't move the X _ [_] buttons on windows from left to right anymore?
[11:21] <sgo11> llutz, apt-get -f install only installs and configures the flashplugin. then stops. One more thing it does is to show a list of packages that are no longer required (use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them). that's all. do you think this is all I missed? thanks.
[11:21] <Sidewinder1> mr_lou, There is a factoid for that, let me look.
[11:21] <Daekdroom> !controls
[11:21] <Daekdroom> Sidewinder1, mr_lou ^
[11:22] <mr_lou> Thanks!
[11:22] <mr_lou> Daekdroom, I don't suppose you'd happen to know how to move the launcher from the left to the right also?
[11:22] <Daekdroom> mr_lou, not possible
[11:22] <Saphyy> Hi. I have a laptop with nvidia optimus (msi ge620dx). I can only run ubuntu with the boot kernel option nomodeset. I can't turn off the CPU graphics card thingie in the BIOS. How do i approach this problem?
[11:23] <KamZou> ikonia, somebody helped me, I was finding the "Satisfy" constraint ;)
[11:23] <KamZou> thanks !
[11:23] <Sidewinder1> Daekdroom, Thanks, I was having trouble finding it; 'tis early, yet, perhaps another cup of coffee is in order. :D
[11:23] <ikonia> KamZou: nice
[11:23] <mr_lou> Unacceptable.
[11:24] <mr_lou> Which previous version do I need then, in order to be able to do that?
[11:24] <theadmin> mr_lou: Use Xubuntu :P
[11:24] <Sidewinder1> mr_
[11:24] <theadmin> mr_lou: Doesn't give you that mess
[11:24] <mr_lou> theadmin, Thanks.
[11:24] <Daekdroom> mr_lou, you either use the Unity launcher at left, or you don't.
[11:24] <Sidewinder1> mr_lou, 10.04 works fine for me and is supported 'til 2013.
[11:24] <mr_lou> Daekdroom, So can I kill Unity launcher and use some other launcher?
[11:25] <Daekdroom> mr_lou, I think the panel requires you to use the launcher, but I'm not sure.
[11:25] <Daekdroom> But you can install the fallback gnome session and use another launcher app
[11:25] <p-dot> how can i get rid of the unity toolbar?
[11:26] <Sidewinder1> mr_lou, Or x... xfce is another option.
[11:26]  * mr_lou hates new versions. Too much always changes...
[11:26] <Sidewinder1> coffee
[11:26] <Sidewinder1> mr_lou, +1
[11:26] <RTYGY45> i'm getting so fat i think i will explode soon
[11:29] <myrmidette> does anyone use the beagle search engine?
[11:35] <bullgard6> myrmidette: me not.
[11:35] <myrmidette> bullgard6, I'll keep that in mind
[11:36] <RTYGY45> how to install gnome in the command prompt for a minimum install ?
[11:36] <RTYGY45> using aptitude
[11:37] <malice> hi can i export a mysql schema with emma?
[11:38] <ikonia> malice: what's emma ?
[11:39] <malice> ikonia graphical toolkit for mysql databases
[11:39] <ikonia> malice: never heard of it
[11:39] <malice> ikonia http://www.ubuntugeek.com/emma-graphical-toolkit-for-mysql-database-developers-and-administrators.html
[11:40] <malice> ikonia do u know another one?
[11:40] <ikonia> malice: the mysql official tools are normally fine
[11:40] <mr_lou> Right... well, Ubuntun 11.10 is not for me then. Can't move or kill Unity and can't decide where to place Window Close buttons and such. That's a real shame. I liked Ubuntu. That silly decision makes no sense.
[11:41] <mr_lou> I could get such sillyness by installing Windows 7.
[11:41] <deej1976> !notunity | mr_lou
[11:42] <malice> ikonia i wasnt able to get a connection to my database with mysql administrator :) emma did it itself
[11:42] <RTYGY45> unity is more like a handheld GUI than a desktop GUI
[11:42] <RTYGY45> scary
[11:42] <deej1976> malice: in a terminal "mysqldump -h localhost -p -u userid database > backup.sql ?
[11:43] <Sidewinder1> mr_lou, Or, you could use 10.04 Lucid, but you'd probably stuck in the same situation in 04-2013..
[11:44] <bullgard6> !nounity | saalko
[11:44] <malice> deej1976 hx worked fine :)
[11:44] <malice> deej1976 thx
[11:45] <deej1976> malice: No  problem
[11:46] <feasty> mr_lou, Try xubuntu maybe?
[11:46] <sgo11> hi, my ubuntu always mis-selects the monitor resolution. it should be 1280x800. but it always set to 1024x768. this happens after I used a projector some months ago. I tried to use nvidia-settings to generate xorg.conf file. but no luck. this is the file: http://www.pasteall.org/27086   any ideas? thanks.
[11:46] <mr_lou> deej1976, Thanks. Will try that.
[11:46] <mr_lou> feasty, I might, but will try gnome-shell first.
[11:47] <sgo11> in each boot, I have to manually change the resolution.
[11:47] <feferfot> hi, how can i enable a browser plugin for gstreamer in kubuntu?
[11:48] <stianhj> Is there anyway to get inline images in AIM in Empathy? Works in Pidgin (DirectIM)..
[11:48] <Studioeng> got a stupid question, is it possible to change an interface using ppp0 (ie mobile broadband) to another interface, such as eth1 for example, but keep vpn using ppp interfaces? sorrt if it doesnt make sence, not sure how to word the question :/
[11:48] <Studioeng> sorry*
[11:49] <ikonia> Studioeng: that's tough to manage
[11:49] <Studioeng> im assuming you cant just separate the 2 types of connection
[11:49] <ikonia> Studioeng: not really no
[11:49] <Studioeng> one for mobile and one for vpn
[11:50] <Studioeng> shame, but makes sense, as they both share ppp
[11:51] <stinkfist> hey where can i get themes for ubuntu 10.04
[11:51] <stinkfist> is it possible from the ubuntu softwaRE?
[11:51] <Studioeng> as you may of already guessed, im trying to have a setup that dials mobile broadband, but also accepts vpn connections
[11:51] <theadmin> stinkfist: Try gnome-look.org
[11:51] <sgo11> hi, any ideas? (1) without xorg.conf (2) with xorg.conf generated by nvidia-settings with resolution auto (3) with xorg.conf generated by nvidia-settings with resolution 1280x800. all the three options don't work. each boot, the monitor will be set to 1024x768.
[11:51] <stinkfist> thanks theadmin :D
[11:52] <wrektjet> interesting story: my graphics card just burnt out. what do i need to know about putting in a new one and rebooting? how will ubuntu handle this event?
[11:52] <deej1976> stinkfist: Have a look for bisigi-themes
[11:52] <theadmin> wrektjet: If you have an xorg.conf, delete it. Other than this, nothing to worry about at all
[11:53] <dr_willis> stinkfist:  theres themes in the repositories - not installed by default.
[11:53] <Sidewinder1> wrektjet, If a video card 'went', it may also be the power-supply.
[11:54] <stinkfist> repositories?
[11:54] <stinkfist> where is that dr_willis
[11:54] <dr_willis> !repo | stinkfist
[11:55] <stinkfist> awesome thanks
[11:55] <dr_willis> time to learn some ubuntu basics befor worrying about themes. :)
[11:55] <wrektjet> Sidewinder1, im hoping not as e/t else was fine as the fan was really dusty i had forgotten to clean it and i was in windows 7 so i wasnt monitiring the temp so it was my bad
[11:55] <TeckDepot> Hello im a first time linux user and I do not like ubuntu 11.10 what is the next best distro
[11:56] <dr_willis> TeckDepot:  totally depends on what you are doing.. go to disrtowatch and download a few and try them out.
[11:56] <wrektjet> theadmin, so i will boot up in low graphics mode delete the xorg file and reboot with a new card and things would be ok?
[11:56] <ikonia> TeckDepot: distrowatch.com
[11:56] <theadmin> wrektjet: Yeah quite so :)
[11:56] <TeckDepot> yea thats what i did
[11:56] <stinkfist> erm how do i apply a theme once a downloaded it?
[11:56] <theadmin> TeckDepot: Try Xubuntu... Or Mint.
[11:56] <TeckDepot> decided linux mint
[11:56] <wrektjet> theadmin, except for my wallet. ok thanks
[11:56] <theadmin> TeckDepot: Yeah, Mint is great
[11:56] <TeckDepot> which turned out to be ubuntu 11.10
[11:56] <Sidewinder1> wrektjet, Agreed. Not sure how one would test a P/S, either..
[11:56] <ikonia> TeckDepot: study distrowatch.com
[11:56] <wrektjet> Sidewinder1, freaking windiws
[11:57] <theadmin> wrektjet: Wallet? Um, I suppose that's stored on your hard drive, nothing to worry about...
[11:57] <sm0gg> Arch ftw
[11:57] <dr_willis> arch is definatly not ftw for most people...
[11:57] <wrektjet> theadmin, joke. referring to the $ i wasted by letting thi diaster happen. thanks again
[11:57] <dr_willis> 'it all depends on your needs'
[11:58] <TeckDepot> fuck it Linux mint 12 it is
[11:59] <ikonia> TeckDepot: stop the language
[11:59] <ikonia> TeckDepot: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[11:59] <ikonia> TeckDepot: if you want distro information, distrowatch.com
[11:59] <Studioeng> im still on 10 :/
[11:59] <dr_willis> !language | TeckDepot
[11:59] <TeckDepot> woha sorry
[11:59] <TeckDepot> pardon my language
[11:59] <RTYGY45> so guys .. do you know how to switch to gnome shell on 11.10 ?
[11:59] <truepurple> Anyone know anything about opera on ubuntu?
[11:59] <TeckDepot> was very inapporpriate of me im sorry
[11:59] <TeckDepot> just really tired
[11:59] <dr_willis> truepurple:  it runs, and works fine for me.. :)
[11:59] <TeckDepot> it slipped
[12:00] <truepurple> RTYGY45, at the log in screen, there is a option to choose "classic mode"
[12:00] <truepurple> dr_willis, I installed it, but I can't find a Icon for it to actually use it anywhere
[12:00] <ikonia> truepurple: gnome shjell is not classic mode
[12:00] <dr_willis> truepurple:  try it from command line i guess..
[12:00] <Studioeng> can you change the pptp interface to something other than ppp ?
[12:01] <INode> i am having issues with gnome not starting when i boot my PC could someone help point me in the right direction\
[12:01] <RTYGY45> ikonia then how do you get classic gnome ?
[12:01] <RTYGY45> like 2.x
[12:01] <truepurple> dr_willis, how do I add a icon for it?
[12:02] <dr_willis> truepurple:  i just pin it to the panel when stuff launches normally.
[12:02] <glebihan> RTYGY45, you don't, it's not there anymore
[12:02] <RTYGY45> ban if hte answer is wrong
[12:02] <RTYGY45> BAN!
[12:02] <dr_willis> been using opera for the last month or 3.. going back to chrome these days.
[12:02] <ikonia> RTYGY45: stop that
[12:03] <truepurple> dr_willis, How do i do that?
[12:03] <deej1976> !classic | RTYGY45
[12:03] <dr_willis> truepurple:  run it.. right click on the panel.. unity basics. :)
[12:03] <truepurple> dr_willis, I am not using unity
[12:04] <truepurple> dr_willis, and when I do that, it doesn't show up
[12:04] <dr_willis> i dont know what youa re using then truepurple....
[12:05] <dr_willis> Hmm. the unity power users guide url i found.. seems to have vanished
[12:05] <truepurple> dr_willis, I am using "classic mode"
[12:05] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, 11.04, correct?
[12:06] <truepurple> Sidewinder1, yes
[12:06] <dr_willis> http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/4795149014/the-power-users-guide-to-unity   there we go.
[12:06] <dr_willis> truepurple:  does it run from a terminal?
[12:07] <truepurple> dr_willis, I told you I am not using unity
[12:07] <truepurple> dr_willis, yes
[12:07] <dr_willis> find the opera.desktop file. copy it to your desktop if you want i guess.
[12:07] <dr_willis> or make a launcher for it some other way
[12:08] <truepurple> dr_willis, that is not useful instruction
[12:09] <dr_willis> about as good as you are going to get from me at this time. Im not on a linux desktop at the moment.
[12:09] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, Did you install opera via apt-get or Synaptic/Software Center?
[12:09] <dr_willis> its very likely your menus just need refreshed.. or its just got an icon in a weird location.
[12:10] <dr_willis> you could still make a custome launcher on your desktop if you wanted to.
[12:10] <Studioeng> cheers guys
[12:10] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, And, when, exactly did you install it?
[12:10] <truepurple> Sidewinder1, I downloaded a file from their site that put it into the software center, and then I clicked install from there
[12:10] <truepurple> Sidewinder1, 5 minutes ago
[12:11] <truepurple> dr_willis, how about adding a icon to the menu?
[12:11] <truepurple> dr_willis, in internet with the rest
[12:11] <dr_willis> i dont use gnome-classic. so no idea.
[12:11] <Guest14859> hi
[12:12] <dr_willis> its likely it may appear there if you log out/back in.
[12:12] <Guest14859> how can I check how much disk space I have left in ubuntu?
[12:12] <dr_willis> Guest14859:  df -h command is one way.
[12:12] <dr_willis> !alacarte
[12:12] <dr_willis> !info alacarte
[12:13] <dr_willis> theres always the menu editor tool to add menu entries.
[12:13] <Guest14859> dr_willis: thanks
[12:13] <truepurple> dr_willis, where-how
[12:14] <dr_willis> where how what? alacarte is a gui tool to edit the menus.
[12:14] <dr_willis> used to be you could right click on the menu to laucnh it.. no idea if that works in the classic modes or not.
[12:15] <afidegnum> hello, pls how do I enable cron in ubuntu?
[12:15] <dr_willis> afidegnum:  cron is installed/enabled by default.
[12:15] <dr_willis> !cron
[12:15] <dumb1224>  Hi, how can I suspend when using a WM like openbox?
[12:15] <dumb1224>                   without root passwd? uPower?
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> or alt-f2 alacarte
[12:15] <afidegnum> ok
[12:17] <dumb1224> !suspend
[12:17] <truepurple> dr_willis, ah that worked, how do I give it the opera icon though?
[12:18] <INode> where can i find a log of gnome errors, gnome does not start when i boot my computer
[12:18] <glebihan> dumb1224, http://openbox.org/wiki/Suspend_and_hibernate
[12:18] <dumb1224> !pm-suspend
[12:18] <dumb1224> glebihan: oh thanks
[12:18] <glebihan> dumb1224, you're welcome
[12:19] <dr_willis> sudo updatedb , locate opera.png    see where the icon is at.
[12:20] <dr_willis> INode:  so gdm login screen works?
[12:20] <dumb1224> glebihan: well pm-suspend requires sudo, in ubuntu theres scripts which doesn't require root to suspend or shutdown, like, press the power button
[12:20] <truepurple> dr_willis, what does that command do?
[12:20] <Chris_____> How do I download Ubuntu Latest pre packed with GNOME 3?
[12:21] <dumb1224> glebihan: isn't there?
[12:21] <dr_willis> truepurple:  looks for the file opera.png  using the locate database
[12:21] <ubuntu> hi
[12:21] <INode> dr_willis: no it does not. boot seems to go fine, everything says OK next to it. but rather than the normal gnome log in screen i get a small icon of a computer and then the name of my computer in the center of the screen
[12:21] <glebihan> dumb1224, not sure as I don't use openbox, but I think it would have been mentioned there if there was
[12:21] <dr_willis> INode:  you could try booting to 'text' mode and login at teh console and see what 'startx' gives for errors.
[12:21] <INode> dr_willis: the time is also displayed in the top center on the screen
[12:21] <truepurple> dr_willis, so I type sudo updatedb opera.png?
[12:22] <dr_willis> INode:  that sounds like its booting a messed up gnome desktop
[12:22] <Superzoom> hi
[12:22] <dr_willis> truepurple:  its 2 differnt commands...
[12:22] <INode> dr_willis: ok i will do that
[12:22] <dr_willis> sudo updatedb then  locate opera.png    see where the icon is at.
[12:22] <Sidewinder1> dumb1224, "Pressing the power button" is rarely a good idea. If you're referring to the button on the CPU; instead, have a look at REISUB.
[12:22] <dr_willis> INode:  you have it set to auto login?
[12:22] <Chris_____> How do I download Ubuntu Latest pre packed with GNOME 3?
[12:22] <Sidewinder1> !reisub | dumb1224
[12:22] <dr_willis> Chris_____:  find some unoffical remastered ubuntu.
[12:22] <INode> dr_willis: i found a bunch of files inside /var/log/gdm should i delete all them and try and boot again. i should have a nice small list of log files then right? based around my issue
[12:22] <truepurple> dr_willis, updateb seemed to do nothing, not a menu to search or anything
[12:23] <ubuntu> anyone using the new ubuntu
[12:23] <INode> dr_willis: no auto login is disabled. i have to enter my password normaly
[12:23] <Sidewinder1> Not here,. :D
[12:23] <Chris_____> dr_willis:  are such packages stable?
[12:23] <dr_willis> INode: i would go to text mode. and try 'startx' and see if theres any error messages. You are using gnome-shell? or unity?
[12:23] <ubuntu> funny side lol
[12:23] <dr_willis> Chris_____:  no idea. they are not supported here.
[12:23] <dumb1224> Sidewinder1: thanks, but I meant the script to shutdown/suspend my laptop without asking for passwd
[12:24] <Sidewinder1> dumb1224, OIC.
[12:24] <RTYGY45> what is the startx used for ?
[12:24] <dr_willis> INode:  it could be some weird breakage in your gnome settings. You could try making a new user and see if you canlogin as them.
[12:24] <Chris_____> dr_willis:  Okay, any way install GNOME3 on ubuntu?
[12:24] <dr_willis> Chris_____:  gnome-3 is on 11.10 by default
[12:24] <deej1976> !notunity | Chris_____
[12:24] <INode> dr_willis: i dont even get to the login console. this happends before i log in
[12:25] <dumb1224> Sidewinder1: I found a little script in /etc/acpi/powerbtn, it defines an event when the powerbtn pressed some action is done
[12:25] <Chris_____> ubottu:  Ty
[12:25] <dr_willis> INode:   try text mode, and the startx command perhaps. the way you describe it - it sounds like its auto logging into the gnome-shell.
[12:25] <INode> i think unity is installed, but i normaly just use ubuntu-classic interface
[12:25] <INode> dr_willis: ok will do. back soon. thanks for the hel
[12:25] <INode> dr_willis: are there an log files i should pay extra attention to
[12:25] <Sidewinder1> dumb1224, I hope it works the way you want.
[12:26] <Sidewinder1> !botsnack
[12:26] <dr_willis> INode:  id test by making a new user. if a new user works.. then its points to a user setting issue.
[12:26] <auronandace> !cookie | Sidewinder1
[12:27] <INode> INode: OK, i will boot into text mode add a new user and get back to you, thanks for the help
[12:27] <Sidewinder1> Yum! Err, I mean, APT1
[12:27] <truepurple> dr_willis, what does "sudo updatedb" do? It does not look for any files
[12:27] <Sidewinder1> :D
[12:27] <dr_willis> truepurple:  it updates the locate database for the locate command to use...
[12:27] <dumb1224> Sidewinder1: but the problem seems it only gets invoked when the powerbtn is pressed
[12:27] <dr_willis> without it locate will not be seeing the newest files.
[12:28] <truepurple> ah
[12:28] <dumb1224> Sidewinder1: anyother case it still asks for passwd
[12:28] <dr_willis> or you could just use the package manager tools to see what files that opera.deb installed where. it proberly installed some opera.png somewhere.
[12:28] <Sidewinder1> dumb1224, I stink at scripts; especially ones that I have screwed up, myself.. :-( Sorry..
[12:29] <truepurple> dr_willis, Sidewinder1 looking in the menu editor more, it seems there was a icon already, but it wasn't showing, the command was something like "opera %u" when I changed the command to "opera" the icon showed up.
[12:29] <truepurple> what was the deal with that?
[12:29] <dumb1224> Sidewinder1: thanks all the same
[12:29] <Sidewinder1> NP
[12:30]  * JLuc is away: Occupé
[12:30] <Sidewinder1> !rootirc | Guest9318
[12:30] <dr_willis> truepurple:  i imagine it defaulted to looking for an opera.png in the icon paths.
[12:31] <dr_willis> if the command was foobar  it would look for foobar.png  i imagine
[12:31] <truepurple> dr_willis, I don't know what you mean, but I mean, the ending of the command that I deleted made the link itself not show up in the menu
[12:31] <RTYGY45> dr_willis i'm trying to install a minimum ubuntu and now i'm in the command pompt. how do i install a GUI ?
[12:31] <Sidewinder1> dr_willis, Or, was the "%u" a variable for current user?
[12:32] <dr_willis> truepurple:  if there was an opera menu item allready when you ran alacarte.. it most likely ment it was added by the package manager tools.. but you needed to log out/back in or refresh the menus to get it to show, and you dident need to do any changes by hand.
[12:32] <dr_willis>  %u = url passed to the item i imagine.
[12:32] <tjingboem> what is the command to see if my joystick works?
[12:32] <dr_willis> !find jstest
[12:33] <dr_willis> tjingboem:  try jstest-gtk :)
[12:33] <styelz> maybe Guest9318 is a virus
[12:33]  * styelz hides
[12:33] <Sidewinder1> styelz, Doubtful, but one never knows.. :-)
[12:35] <Sidewinder1> styelz, I've always wondered why so many run chat clients as root..
[12:35] <tjingboem> dr_willis. that's a great program, thank you!
[12:36] <dr_willis> Sidewinder1:  because some distros/live cd's default to root  by default
[12:36]  * styelz ponders
[12:37] <truepurple> dr_willis, no, when I added a link to it before noticing the old one, that showed right away. But the old one did not show until I deleted that extra stuff at the end of the command for it. Any idea what %u (or something like that) might be meant to do and why it would cause the link to not show?
[12:37] <Sidewinder1> dr_willis, I always learn somethin' from you! Thanx. :D
[12:37] <styelz> Sidewinder1: me too
[12:37] <styelz> ;)
[12:38] <stianhj> Is there anyway to get inline images in AIM in Empathy? Works in Pidgin (DirectIM)..
[12:39] <ritesh_> hii
[12:39] <ritesh_> hel;;p
[12:39] <ziro`> hi
[12:39] <ziro`> what tools can i use for building servers to a spec?
[12:40] <ziro`> e.g. install x y z, use configuration blah
[12:40] <raven> 11.10 how to set cpu frequency to "on demand"
[12:40] <theadmin> !clone | ziro`
[12:41] <dr_willis> truepurple:   its a command line argument.. that gets passed to the app.
[12:41] <ziro`> !automate
[12:41] <ziro`> mmm
[12:41] <theadmin> 10.04? That's old
[12:41] <ziro`> maybe i just need to write a bash script
[12:41] <ziro`> ]
[12:41] <dr_willis> ziro`:  i did an install to a 32gb flash drive. set it up how i liked.. then 'dd'ed it to other machines to clone its install.
[12:41] <dr_willis> ziro`:  depends on your needs....
[12:42] <dr_willis> !oem
[12:42] <ziro`> it's more for building new production servers as well as setting up development vms
[12:42] <dr_willis> so you got some complex needs. :)
[12:42] <ziro`> well, i didn't think it was so complex :)
[12:42] <raven> 11.10 how to set cpu frequency to "on demand"
[12:43] <dr_willis> You want identical clones,  the usb/dd trick can work. :) or mondo/mindi
[12:43] <dr_willis> actually mondo/mindi last i looked ages ago - could even ask/set hostname and other differnt defaults after it restored the system
[12:43] <ziro`> well, we really want scripts to build these machines
[12:44] <dr_willis> Go for it. :)
[12:44] <ziro`> so we can install the later versions of packages than we'd usually just by changing the script we build from
[12:44] <raven> 11.10 how to set cpu frequency to "on demand"
[12:44] <styelz> moo
[12:45] <dr_willis> Muu!
[12:45] <truepurple> dr_willis, if ubuntu doesn't care about the command, why would it hide the link because of said command?
[12:47] <llutz> raven: sudo cpufreq-selector -g ondemand
[12:47] <z3bra> Hi
[12:47] <dr_willis> truepurple:  could be it was looking for 'opera %u.png'
[12:47] <dr_willis> truepurple:  could be the opera package makers messed up also...
[12:48] <raven> llutz, does not work
[12:48] <llutz> !work
[12:48] <dr_willis> truepurple:  could be you just needed to refresh your menus also and the opera %u might have worked..
[12:48] <truepurple> dr_willis, but the link itself didn't show, because of this comand, and this wasn't in the part for which icon to use, but what command to run
[12:48] <Sidewinder1> :D
[12:48] <z3bra> Does somebody knows how to add a tabulation at the beginning of multiple line with VIM ?
[12:49] <dr_willis> gnome has known issues with not seeing changes to the menus items untill it gets refreshed.
[12:49] <truepurple> dr_willis, but new menu links showed right away, how do you "refresh the menu" anyway?
[12:49] <raven> llutz, it still idles on maximum frequency!!!!!!!
[12:49] <dr_willis> z3bra:  how many lines? you could make a macro
[12:49] <dr_willis> z3bra:  or do it once by hand and use the . key to repeate it.
[12:49] <raven> where to find tray icons like from mounted truecrypt sessions
[12:49] <theadmin> z3bra: Hm... :42,666s/^/\t/
[12:50] <z3bra> i don't really know...
[12:50] <theadmin> z3bra: Wherein 42 and 666 are line numbers between which to search, inclusive
[12:50] <Gentoo64> raven, in the system tray
[12:50] <z3bra> dr_willis "^" represent the begginning of the line ?
[12:51] <raven> Gentoo64, there is NO system tray and NO truecrypt icon with NO option to unmount volumes
[12:51] <theadmin> z3bra: Yeah
[12:51] <Gentoo64> ok
[12:51] <xangua> there is a cpufreq indicator raven
[12:51] <Gentoo64> raven, dno then. you can unmount from the truecrypt gui
[12:51] <raven> xangua, where
[12:51] <z3bra> Okay ! Thanks a lot dr_willis and theadmin !
[12:51] <z3bra> Bye !
[12:51] <raven> Gentoo64, i cannot access the GUI
[12:52] <Gentoo64> why?
[12:52] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, Rebooting will generally refresh everything; we do, however, try to avoid that as it is somewhat, winblozish. I would assume a logiout/logout would refresh most items.
[12:52] <raven> Gentoo64, because there is NO tray icon to come up with this gui again
[12:52] <xangua> raven: http://askubuntu.com/posts/37997/revisions
[12:52] <xangua> and other seful indicators http://is.gd/mOLuUu
[12:52] <Gentoo64> raven, you dont need it
[12:52] <Gentoo64> raven, click the truecrypt program icon
[12:52] <raven> Gentoo64, how to do it then
[12:52] <Gentoo64> raven, or in terminal try truecrypt
[12:53] <Sidewinder1> logout/login, even.
[12:53] <raven> Gentoo64, truecrypt already running
[12:53] <Gentoo64> try tabs see if theres something like truecrypt_gui
[12:53] <Browser> hi
[12:53] <Gentoo64> raven, if only i knew where the system tray was... lol
[12:54] <Sidewinder1> Mornin' Browser
[12:54] <smethia> Hi Tom
[12:54] <Gentoo64> that would solve ur problem
[12:54] <raven> Gentoo64, do you know anything about this unity/gnome3 crap?
[12:54] <Gentoo64> no
[12:55] <truepurple> Sidewinder1, there isn't a better/easier way? And why would one menu link require a refresh, but another wouldn't?
[12:57] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, I have no idea, sorry. Perhaps you might consider (if you've solved the problem) moving on to the "next item on your list." I will say that I have never added a program, form the providers/writers site, to Software Center and installed form there..
[12:58] <Sidewinder1> from, even.
[12:58] <raven> xangua, why theese applets do not apopear after relogin
[12:58] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, I prefer Synaptic
[12:59] <truepurple> Sidewinder1, except I wouldn't know how to add it with synaptic
[12:59] <xangua> raven: run indicator-cpufreq ¿
[13:00] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, That's partially my point. For me, I don't install anything, with few exceptions, not listed in Synaptics 35,000 choices.
[13:02] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, Even then, sometimes after installation, there's no icon and I launch form CLI; but usually that's for programs that I rarely use.
[13:02] <dr_willis> If you used the .deb package. you basically did install it with synaptic, (or some other apt tool)
[13:02] <dr_willis> I imagine its the package  thats not runnng some post setup command to tell gnome to rescan
[13:02] <truepurple> Sidewinder1, its got lots of random files that are hard to search through, its confusing the way it works, and just because some program like opera isn't listed in it, doesn't mean I shouldn't use it
[13:02] <pangolin> ^
[13:03] <dr_willis> Opera I think is in one of the repos.
[13:03] <dr_willis> !opera
[13:03] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, You are correct on all counts.
[13:03] <dr_willis> ive had to many issues with oprea the last few months ive used it. back to using chrome.
[13:04] <lyrae> #pygame
[13:04] <raven> why do i have to add thousands of repositories for something that was in ubuntu some releases before
[13:04] <the_misfit> freaking browser wars, whatever happened to good ole KDE vs GNOME
[13:04] <the_misfit> always somethin
[13:04] <dr_willis> raven:  which app are you refering to?
[13:04] <truepurple> dr_willis, like what kind of issues?
[13:04] <jason00> Question - let's say I have an SD card with an EXT3 partition that will not unmount. I fell asleep last night with my computer trying to unmount it via nautilus and it sat there for the better part of 6 hours unable to unmount. It was still trying when I woke up. Any ideas?
[13:05] <superZoom> hi
[13:05] <dr_willis> truepurple:  its not syncing with opera on my phone like its supposed to. and im constantly finding sites these days that have special features that dont work with opera.
[13:05] <dr_willis> truepurple:  main reason i was using it on the pc. was because i was also using it on my phone.
[13:05] <raven> dr_willis, all apps that make ubuntu ready to work at least a bit sensefully       http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/list-of-application-indicators
[13:06] <the_misfit> jason00: you can forcibly unmount it in a terminal
[13:06] <the_misfit> or just pull the damn thing out and stop being a baby
[13:06] <dr_willis> raven:  most of those indicator applets came out after the 11.10 release i belive.
[13:06] <getitfixed> How do I package ubuntu 11.04 for xoom
[13:06] <jason00> the_misfit: stop being a baby? pardon me? The SD card doesn't WORK when I try to use it.
[13:06] <truepurple> dr_willis, Sidewinder1 I have flash installed, but it has a graphics update problem, where if I click a button that is meant to change a screen, it does not change fully, and I get broken artifacts of the two screens, the one before, and the one I am suppose to be at. Scrolling down on the webpage, and back up, updates the graphics, but moving something from another window in front of it, does not. This is the same in both opera and fir
[13:06] <truepurple> efox, not in midori but that browser has lots of other issues, including with its flash
[13:06] <dr_willis> raven:  with any luck they will get included in teh default repos for the next release.
[13:06] <jason00> the_misfit: I'm trying to understand what's wrong with it. It's not about it properly unmounting, it's about it not working and it won't properly unmount as a result.
[13:07] <the_misfit> jason00: i was in jest i apologize you got offended. So the problem is ?
[13:07] <superZoom> how do i run GUI app from terminaa
[13:07] <jason00> the_misfit: read above.
[13:07] <dr_willis> superZoom:  type its name..
[13:07] <dr_willis> superZoom:  ie 'gedit' to run gedit...
[13:07] <the_misfit> jason00: Does the OS detect it?
[13:07] <jason00> the_misfit: apologize I got offended? Or apologize you acted like a child? There's a difference.
[13:07] <raven> dr_willis, will canonical then think about the users again?
[13:07] <the_misfit> jason00: Relax, let's move on to your problem please!
[13:07] <dr_willis> raven:  pointless and off topic discussion.
[13:08] <jason00> the_misfit: the SD card is from my phone. FAT32 and EXT3 partitions. The EXT3 partition shows up as 0.0 B when its 2 gb in size.
[13:08] <dr_willis> The focus for the next release from what ive seen will be 'polishing' the disrto.  so we will have to see what happens.
[13:08] <jason00> the_misfit: the SD card with EXT partition contains apps to my phone, so its necessary it works and I realized right away it was acting up
[13:08] <dr_willis> bbl
[13:08] <jason00> the_misfit: you know, I just did a backup - I wonder if it kicked it to my EXT partition and not FAT and maxed it out???
[13:08] <the_misfit> jason00: well, is your phone reading the data?
[13:08] <raven> dr_willis, most important to discuss about otherwise ubuntu will become 100% crap very very soon
[13:09] <jason00> the_misfit: FAT yes, EXT no.
[13:09] <pangolin> !ot | raven
[13:09] <jason00> the_misfit: FAT is data, EXT is apps
[13:09] <jason00> the_misfit: I thought maybe the FS was corrupt.
[13:09] <jason00> raven: I happen to like Ubuntu's recent decisions. Very much in fact. Sorry you disagree, but other distros are available if you so choose.
[13:09] <the_misfit> jason00: have you tried mounting it using a live cd
[13:10] <BarkingFish> jason00: apologies for butting in, and I know this is OT - but what phone do you have? I've never seen one which reads linux partitions off a storage card.
[13:10] <jason00> BarkingFish: android.
[13:10] <superZoom> dr_willis: Surprisingly it is working now, but before i change owner and trying to run from root terminal, and it was giving error
[13:10] <the_misfit> ya BarkingFish, he prob has a rooted phone
[13:10] <BarkingFish> ok, thanks.  I think it's time for an upgrade for me :)
[13:10] <jason00> BarkingFish: my android is super low end and has so little space for apps, so I partitioned the SD card with 2gb EXT3 and used Link2SD (avialable in market) to automatically sym-link things over so I utilize the 2GB spot for apps instead of the lowsy 170mb onboard memory.
[13:11] <jason00> BarkingFish: the_misfit yes, my phone is rooted and flashed. :D
[13:12] <jason00> the_misfit: the other thing is, If I have the card in my laptop and unmount it, my laptop wont ever detect it again unless I reboot the laptop
[13:12] <the_misfit> jason00: Try booting a live distro like.. Partition Magic or something
[13:12] <the_misfit> and see if it sees both part
[13:12] <the_misfit> s
[13:12] <truepurple> dr_willis,  Sidewinder1, can you help me with my flash trouble?
[13:13] <the_misfit> at least eliminate the hardware possibility first
[13:13] <BarkingFish> jason00: One thing I'd also like to check - where did you partition the card into Ext3? Is it on the same distro you're on now?
[13:13] <jason00> BarkingFish: I partitioned it with gparted on ubuntu. I've done a lot of backups/recoveries lately so I wonder if osmething got corrupt....
[13:13] <a433b> guys
[13:13] <jason00> the_misfit: here's what's weird... ext is giving me the headache, yet it operates fine on ubuntu. the fat partition comes back with 0 bytes used yet theres data on it. Strange...
[13:14] <a433b> on configuring squid proxy
[13:14] <a433b> i have got it to wor
[13:14] <jason00> the_misfit: I wonder if I can format the fat partition (I have those items backed up anyway) and see what happens.
[13:14] <a433b> but i cant get authentication to work ?, any ideas
[13:14] <BarkingFish> !enter | a433b
[13:14] <the_misfit> jason00: at least use a proper partition live CD
[13:14] <jtokarchuk> jason00: sounds like the partition table is broken
[13:14] <a433b> !enter | a433b
[13:14] <jason00> jtokarchuk: yeah. I wonder if I borked it. :(
[13:15] <a433b> i do that how ?
[13:15] <jason00> the_misfit: whats wrong with GParted in Ubuntu vs GParted on Ubuntu livecd?
[13:15] <BarkingFish> well ext3 is journalised, isn't it?  Would having a damaged journal affect it in any way?
[13:16] <Shrek> Hello, how to change the interface language of Ubuntu 11.10?
[13:16] <Shrek> I want to use German and Portuguese.
[13:16] <jtokarchuk> jason00, shouldn't matter, I'm thinking he means don;t use "dr. bobs magic partition creat0r recoverererer 5000"
[13:16] <jason00> BarkingFish: I'm not sure. I may just have to redo the card. I was trying to do a FS check but I cant do a FS check unless its unmounted... but it wont properly unmount... this is why ( the_misfit ) I was trying to spend so much time unmounting it.
[13:16] <the_misfit> jason00: well, it's my impression that your installed OS can't read the FAT partition, correct, and you're unsure if it's a hardware or software issue
[13:16] <the_misfit> just a suggestion
[13:16] <jason00> the_misfit: my OS is Ubuntu. Ubuntu can read/write/sleep/eat FAT32.
[13:16] <jtokarchuk> jason00: Stupid question but all the pins on the card are of course clean and not separated?
[13:16] <jason00> the_misfit: the fact Ubuntu CAN read it, yet its saying 0 bytes used, makes me wonder if its corrupt
[13:17] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, What you need to remember is that Opera was originally designed as a 'stripped-down', light weight browser. I would think Flash and other 'heavy', items might be problematic. Flash in Firefox, on the other hand, should kind' take care of itself; unless it's a graphics- card/driver issue..
[13:17] <jason00> jtokarchuk: oh yeah, we're good there. I never even pulled the card out to the laptop until I saw I was having issues on the phone. The issues didnt come about until I did a recovery and 3 backups.
[13:17] <jtokarchuk> jason00: if ubuntu can play with ext3 fine I would backup what you have and just format your card, you probably have a damaged partition table, it doesn't know what's listed for the fat32 so it just reads 0B
[13:17] <jason00> jtokarchuk: which takes the 2gb partition + the phones onboard storage, zips it, and saves it to the FAT partition
[13:18] <truepurple> Sidewinder1, its not taking care of itself, I installed opera because firefox was having trouble with the flash, and opera updates the flash screen better, but still has the same problem
[13:18] <jtokarchuk> jason00, as annoying as that is that's probably the proper solution
[13:18] <BarkingFish> Well I have to go guys, but I will say this  - for what it's worth, I've attempted to mix partition types on a card before (for a PC, not for a phone) and it never turns out well.  They're prone to taking a nosedive from my personal experience.
[13:18] <jason00> jtokarchuk: I'm fine with it. I was just trying to understand what caused it. :(
[13:18] <jason00> BarkingFish: with all file systems? Or just EXT?
[13:19] <BarkingFish> jason00: My last mix was Ext2|Ext3
[13:19] <jason00> BarkingFish: k, appreciate it.
[13:20] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, Im' sorry that I can't be of further assistance. :-(  As I'm currently running Firefox 3.3.24 along with Lucid, 10.04 and it all 'just works', including flash..
[13:20] <BarkingFish> if it's not unmounting properly, the only thing I can suggest is that you shutdown your machine, remembering to do an ALT+SYSRQ+E to sync your disks first, then ALT+SYSRQ+R to remount the system Read only before you do.
[13:21] <Sidewinder1> Oops, make that FF 3.6.24...
[13:21] <jtokarchuk> jason00, I just read upwards, quite unsure. If the card is still reading I am reluctant to say it's the card. Perhaps you had a bad block in your FAT that unmount puked at? I'm just speculating
[13:23] <BarkingFish> jason00: Sorry, that should be ALT SysRq + U to remount R/O, not Alt SysRq + R
[13:24] <BarkingFish> anyway, gotta go, see you later.
[13:25] <jason00> jtokarchuk: the other curve ball is the fact I'm using 2 different partition types on 1 card and using them interchangably
[13:26] <jason00> jtokarchuk: I did so many recoveries and backups in the last day that mayb eI just borked it
[13:26] <jtokarchuk> jason00, certainly possible, pain in the butt, though =[
[13:26] <jason00> jtokarchuk: I should DD it to a .tar.gz for backup purposes
[13:26] <jtokarchuk> jason00,  yes you should, you could even then mount it as an image and mess with it if you os desire
[13:26] <jtokarchuk> jason00, so*
[13:27] <Shrek> Hello, how to change the interface language of Ubuntu 11.10? I want to use German and Portuguese, and possibly another one.
[13:27] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, If you're experiencing the same or similar issues in FF and Opera with flash, that indicates, at least a flash or more likely problem with the video-card/driver, for same. I don't think that I could be terribly helpful with either, as I said they just work, for me.
[13:29] <jtokarchuk> Shrek, : go to the dash, and run "Language Support"
[13:29] <Shrek> jtokarchuk, dash?
[13:29] <Shrek> Oh, got it.
[13:29] <Shrek> Then?
[13:30] <jtokarchuk> Shrek, Install/Remove languages, install the appropriate ones, and enable them either system-wide or for what parts you like
[13:30] <jason00> jtokarchuk: so how do I format a card that won't properly unmount to format? o.O
[13:30] <truepurple> Sidewinder1, but it isn't the case in midori, and it wasn't the case for a long time. Someone said once that it was a issue with a newer flash version, but how might I revert to the last version that worked then?
[13:30] <Shrek> Jtokarchuk, okay.
[13:31] <jtokarchuk> jason00, will gparted read it?
[13:31] <jason00> jtokarchuk: read? yes. umount? no.
[13:31] <jtokarchuk> jason00, allow you to perform actions on it?
[13:32] <jason00> jtokarchuk: I think I just got it using the -f tag... force unmount...
[13:32] <jason00> jtokarchuk: still failing to create ext3 over existing ext3. new partition table coming...
[13:33] <jtokarchuk> jason00: back it up, blow the partitions away, force it to unmount, and try to start fresh. IF that doesn't work, for what the SD cards cost, it might cost you less to buy one than what you will put into it in your own labor
[13:33] <jason00> jtokarchuk: unable to create partition table. what the??????
[13:34] <jason00> jtokarchuk: I think I killed my sd card??
[13:34] <jtokarchuk> jason00, it seems that way. how long have you had it?
[13:34] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, I'm not sure and this is probably horrible advice but, if it were me, I'd probably remove FF and reinstall with a previous version. cAUTION! That may screw up your system, I don't know but it sounds like you're somewhat desperate.
[13:34] <jason00> jtokarchuk: uh. 5 months or so?
[13:35] <jtokarchuk> jason00, if you so wish, call the manufacturer and exercise your warranty, most of the people there have no idea what a partition is. so if you say "it doesnt work" they will believe you. However, the cost of the shipping to them will probably buy you a new card anyway
[13:35] <truepurple> Sidewinder1, reinstall flash with a previous version? Flash does not seem to be attached to any one particular browser
[13:35] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, It'll certainly kill your bookmarks/history unless you back them up.
[13:35] <jason00> jtokarchuk: I have another card in my car I believe....
[13:36] <jtokarchuk> jason00, sorry I could not be of more help, got to run.
[13:36] <jason00> jtokarchuk: thanks
[13:36] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, No I meant remove Firefox and reinstall a previous version, one that worked for you, but the CAUTION, above still applies..
[13:37] <truepurple> Sidewinder1, reinstall a previous version of firefox? Its not firefox that is the issue here
[13:37] <slakcphil> i am backing up some directories that have files over 150gb in them and getting real slow results with rsync
[13:37] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, Well, at this point I better gracefully "bow-out"; sorry...
[13:38] <slakcphil> the drive is a usb 3.0 (hdparm reports reads at 2600 mbps) however the rsync writes very slow, like 4mbps
[13:38] <slakcphil> is there a way to speed up rsync
[13:38] <slakcphil> ?
[13:39] <slakcphil> has anyone backed up with rsync to usb 3.0 external drive?
[13:40] <truepurple> Sidewinder1, well thankyou for trying
[13:40] <Sidewinder1> slakcphil, Not that I'm aware of; I don't think there any "rsync optimization" which speed it up.
[13:41] <Sidewinder1> slakcphil, It may be the usb-interface that's the bottleneck; I use eSata, it's 4-6 times faster than usb.. :-)
[13:41] <Korl> My computer should be able to run Warcraft 3 at max settings, - or at least somewhat close - However when running it in lubuntu it's laggy at minimum settings
[13:41] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, No problem, just wish I could've been of more service.
[13:41] <Korl> My guess is it's something with Xorg - and ATI graphics
[13:42] <Sidewinder1> Korl, You're running WOW, through wine?
[13:42] <felicitas> how can i stopp ubuntu to update to the next kernel?
[13:42] <Korl> Not WoW - Warcraft 3
[13:43] <Sidewinder1> OIC.
[13:43] <Skummel> Sidewinder1 it's not 4-5 times faster then usb3. USB3 got theoretical max speed of 5 Gb/s.
[13:44] <Korl> Sidewinder1: I'm usng Pentium M 1.7ghz, 1.5gb ram, and the graphics card is an ATI RV250 mobility radeon firegl 9000 I believe hangon I can lspci the graphics card
[13:44] <slakcphil> Sidewinder1, it is interfacing through a pcix card that has usb 3.0 ports
[13:45] <Korl> Sidewinder1: Yeah the graphics card is right
[13:45] <Sidewinder1> Skummel, Well my current sys is an "Antique", Dell Dimension 4550 with usb2, max so, if memory serves, I got a 4-6 times advantage w/eSATA; at that time. :D
[13:45] <tga> greetings
[13:46] <tga> is it possible to do a minimal install from a desktop cd?
[13:46]  * Sidewinder1 Is starting to become overwhelmed, at this time; probably need more coffee.. :-)
[13:46] <xangua> !minimal | tga
[13:47] <tga> xangua: thanks, I know about the minimal cd, that's not what I'm asking
[13:48] <tga> is it possible to do a minimal install using the desktop cd or do I need the alternate/server for that?
[13:48] <jason00> Question - if I want to take an SD card or flash drive device and DD it into a .tar.gz in its exact format for later recovery, how would I do it? sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/home/jason/backup.tar.gz ????
[13:48] <xangua> tga: alternate will install full desktop and server is for server edition
[13:49] <tga> so you're saying there is no way to install anything else than the full ubuntu-desktop when using the desktop cd?
[13:51] <islet96> anyone knows about mplayer as screen saver at 11.10?
[13:55] <urthmover> good morning.  I have built a very minimal ubuntu desktop and am running xfce.  it's great.  I also have been using vim for all my editing needs.  My question is which gvim package should I install on my system?  vim-gtk vim-athena vim-gnome?  I am looking to install the least ammount of dependencies but still have the grqaphical version of vim specifically so that I can just double click on the file in thunar and have vim/gvim open up.
[13:57] <meta-coder> urthmover, read the description of the packages?
[13:58] <sindile> is there a ppa for pulseaudio 1.1 for ubuntu 11.10 64bit
[13:58] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:58] <urthmover> meta-coder: I am...I guess my question is more basic than that really....is it possible to install an app that utilizes gtk libraries without the end user having to install all the gtk dependencies?  does that make sense?
[13:59] <urthmover> I have an image of a dev being able to compile a self contained app .... and the end user not having to install all the dependencies
[13:59] <Guest82043> does anyone know the username and password for the live cd alpha release of Ubuntu 12.04?
[13:59] <slakcphil> urthmover, maybe you could try to compile it yourself and then only install the *required* dpends
[13:59] <urthmover> root toor  Guest82043 ?
[13:59] <sipior> urthmover: you can do that sort of thing, but then all of your apps will be five times the normal size.
[14:00] <Guest82043> urthmover tried that
[14:00] <smw> Guest82043, try user ubuntu pass ubuntu
[14:00] <urthmover> ok slakcphil
[14:00] <urthmover> I agree sipior
[14:00] <Guest82043> smw tried that too
[14:00] <Guest82043> lol
[14:00] <smw> Guest82043, please use a real nick
[14:01] <urthmover> after having looked at the dependencies  I think that vim-gtk accomplishes my needs whereas vim-gnome would require me to install the whole gnome suite
[14:01] <wrektjet> is there a way to investigate whether a computer running ubuntu has been hacked and is attacking other computers
[14:02] <slakcphil> wrektjet, there are many ways...
[14:02] <smw> hickleberryfun, hm... user ubuntu no password?
[14:02] <urthmover> wrektjet: netstat -a  will show you currently open connects  and resolve the ip  then just whois the ip's  might be mildly helpful
[14:02] <slakcphil> you can use tiger to check for some
[14:02] <hickleberryfun> tried it smw
[14:02] <slakcphil> lsof for open files
[14:02] <smw> hickleberryfun, let the system just load?
[14:02] <slakcphil> w
[14:02] <smw> hickleberryfun, why is a user/pass needed?
[14:02] <slakcphil> for who is logged in
[14:03] <hickleberryfun> smw after the install of a wireless driver
[14:03] <smw> hickleberryfun, ?
[14:03] <slakcphil> w command is a personal paranoid reflex for me :)
[14:03] <urthmover> slakcphil: is there a ps switch that shows who initiated a process?
[14:03] <smw> hickleberryfun, are you logged in?
[14:03] <urthmover> slakcphil: nvrmnd I'll rtfm the man
[14:03] <hickleberryfun> smw if you logout and log back in the driver activates and is usable, otherwise it is not possible to use on the live cd
[14:03] <slakcphil> -o user it hink
[14:03] <Pici> urthmover: 'u'
[14:04] <smw> hickleberryfun, so open a terminal, type "whoami" then type passwd
[14:04] <hickleberryfun> smw no i use this computer, just booted up on here to see if i could find the login information
[14:04] <slakcphil> Pici is right -u for username and -U for uid
[14:04] <slakcphil> ps --help
[14:04] <urthmover> thx Pici slakcphil
[14:04] <wrektjet> i will look at all of these thnx
[14:04] <smw> hickleberryfun, ok, whoami will tell you the username to login as (ubuntu I think)
[14:04] <smw> hickleberryfun, passwd will let you set the password
[14:04] <Pici> urthmover: I meant u alone, not -u
[14:05] <smw> hickleberryfun, then you logout and log back in
[14:05] <hickleberryfun> smw but you still need to know the current
[14:05] <smw> hickleberryfun, sudo passwd ubuntu
[14:05] <smw> hickleberryfun, that should not require a password
[14:05] <urthmover> Pici: interesting  ps u  shows me just my processes
[14:06] <smw> hickleberryfun, note that "ubuntu" is the user who you are logged in as
[14:06] <smw> hickleberryfun, anything else?
[14:06] <Pici> urthmover: ps aux will show all processes.
[14:06] <hickleberryfun> smw.. even with sudo you must know the current password, otherwise sudo cannot be used
[14:07] <usc911> Hey guys, im having some odd issues. I have a pretty new and decent spec asus laptop, over the last couple of days when every im doing anything even slightly cpu intensive ( am currently untarring) the cpu fan goes absolutely ballistic, I cant work out what would possibly be the issue, any thoughts/suggestions?
[14:07] <smw> hickleberryfun, really?
[14:07] <smw> hickleberryfun, that doesn't make sense
[14:07] <smw> hickleberryfun, you tried it?
[14:07] <ikonia> usc911: probably your cpu needs cool when it scales up while untarring
[14:08] <usc911> ikonia:but its never happened before and I used to failry hammer vmware
[14:08] <Sidewinder1> usc911, ikonia That was my thought, as well.
[14:08] <hickleberryfun> smw, how so? no i havent tried it, but whenever you use the sudo command, you are ALWAYS prompted for your password unless you have entered it recently and your system is set to save the password for an amount of time within the span
[14:08] <ikonia> usc911: different types of use, vmware is more ram than cpu
[14:08] <smw> hickleberryfun, but this is a live cd
[14:08] <usc911> ah ok
[14:08] <hickleberryfun> smw and gksudo for a graphical interface prompt
[14:09] <smw> hickleberryfun, it should work. The people who made the disk must have built in a way to obtain root
[14:09] <ikonia> usc911: look at it from a simple point of view, your cpu use goes up when you untar, = your cpu is more used, = your cpu is hotter, = turn on the fan
[14:09] <agentgasmask> Hi all. Can I delete the /home/user/.mozilla/firefox/profile/cache directory safely? Is it required?
[14:09] <usc911> ikinia:how about video (iplayer in particular) that also hammers the fan and hasn’t done previously
[14:09] <hickleberryfun> smw i guess ill try it but it will probably be a waste of time- definitely appreciate the help though
[14:10] <xangua> smw: there is no root password on ubuntu
[14:10] <smw> hickleberryfun, If I were making the disk I would setup sudo nopass. I am sure they did it.
[14:10] <ikonia> usc911: that can be quite busy on the cpu, also depends if the flash plugin is being used
[14:10] <ikonia> usc911: it sounds like your laptop may not have the best/most compatible apci interface, but it does work
[14:10] <usc911> ikonia: thanks
[14:10] <smw> xangua, "obtain root" in the sense of running with full sudo powers
[14:11] <Sidewinder1> usc911, Video hammers my cpu, as well; but it's an older system.. :-(
[14:12] <usc911> Sidewinder1: I'm just unsure why it has only just started doing it
[14:12] <usc911> mine now overheats (seemingly) and just cuts out
[14:13] <Sidewinder1> usc911, I understand, however, it sounds like the fan is working as designed; better to error on the side of cooling than too much heat. :D
[14:14] <Sidewinder1> usc911, You said it ie a lappy?
[14:14] <usc911> Sidewinder1: I agree, guess it's best to have it cut out rather than burn out. Yeah its an asus u33jc
[14:16] <Sidewinder1> usc911, OK. My wife has a lappy that was running too hot; she bought an aftermarket external fan system. About $35.00, that the lappy sits on; problem solved..
[14:17] <usc911> Sidewinder1:  Ok cheers man I shall have a look in to it
[14:17] <wrektjet> is there a way to downlaod all the required files for tiger onto a diff computer and move them via a flash drive onto the ubuntu machine?
[14:17] <Sidewinder1> NP
[14:17] <Sidewinder1> :D
[14:17] <usc911> my music is now having to be blasted ove rthe noise
[14:17] <Guest61088> gostaria de saber se alguem ja resolveu o problema de pendrive protegido por senha
[14:18] <Sidewinder1> !es | Guest61088
[14:19] <xangua> !pt | Guest61088 Sidewinder1
[14:20] <evdvelde> hi all, i get a strange error when installing package with dpkg:
[14:20] <evdvelde> iw conflicts with aircrack-ng (<< 1:1.0~rc2-1)
[14:20] <evdvelde>   aircrack-ng (version 2.0-1) is to be installed.
[14:21] <evdvelde> last time i checked, 2 used to be greater than 1
[14:21] <wrektjet> slakcphil, what is a normal output for w
[14:21] <Sidewinder1> xangua, My extracurricular language abilities obviously leave something to be desired; along with my typing skills, or lack thereof. :-)
[14:23] <r3c4ll> hi, where i can see if a version of ubuntu is active?
[14:23] <Sidewinder1> xangua, But correct me if I'm wrong; I thought that Spanish and Portuguese were similar enough, that one could understand the other..
[14:23] <r3c4ll> and if it still has support
[14:24] <slakcphil> wrektjet, you will see like maybe a gnome session open in your name and if you have a terminal open it will show that as well, if there is someone remotely connected then it will show an ip or hostname
[14:24] <xangua> !eol | r3c4ll
[14:24] <Pici> r3c4ll: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[14:24] <slakcphil> there is also the who command, also have a good look at the auth logs and messages file
[14:24] <wrektjet> slakcphil, oh so the second user is the terminal open. whew
[14:24] <slakcphil> in /var/log
[14:25] <slakcphil> wrektjet, :)
[14:25] <huamao> thanks
[14:25] <wrektjet> time to get busy
[14:26] <smooke> HI
[14:28] <wrektjet> is there a way to see the auth logs from mor ethan 3 days
[14:29] <iceroot> wrektjet: if you have not deleted them, yes
[14:29] <iceroot> wrektjet: /var/log/auth.log.1 /var/log/auth.log.2.gz and so on
[14:29] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:29] <iceroot> wrektjet: for *.gz you can use zless instead of less
[14:29] <wrektjet> oh ok i got it thnx
[14:30] <wrektjet> that was easy thnx iceroot shoulda figured that out
[14:30] <ubuntu_> 11.04 and 11.10 are slow as shit I can't use them from a flash drive with 2GB DDR2 6400mHZ -> SOMETHING IS WRONG THEN
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu_  you're free to use something else
[14:31] <ubuntu_> Unity sucks ass you all are idiots for switching it from Gnome, it's so fucking slow it retarded
[14:31] <pangolin> !language | ubuntu_
[14:31] <ubuntu_> yeah except you push all your fucking updates on Debian
[14:31] <iceroot> ubottu: please stop trolling
[14:31] <huamao> WOW!
[14:31] <compdoc> 11.04 and 11.10 are pretty fast, but Im not crazy enough to run them off usb
[14:31] <Sidewinder1> Heh, :D
[14:32] <bosman> what happens
[14:32] <ubuntu_> I would use debian but all your updates get pushed to it too
[14:32] <huamao> TOO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM.
[14:32] <iceroot> ubuntu_: stop trolling
[14:32] <ubuntu_> so why intrude on people's OS like that
[14:32] <Sidewinder1> iceroot, I was waiting for you to ban/kick ubottu. ;-)
[14:32] <ubuntu_> make it as slow as possible and basically non functional
[14:32] <iceroot> Sidewinder1: :)
[14:33] <BluesKaj> human_blip, too many stupid ppl ranting in this room
[14:33] <iceroot> Sidewinder1: that would be a funny mistake :)
[14:33] <pangolin> ubuntu_: Do you have a support question?
[14:33] <ubuntu_> wow you can ban kick me it doesnt change the fact that you all fucked up with the latest releases
[14:33] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, Mornin' dude!
[14:33] <huamao> EXACTLY.
[14:33] <BluesKaj> err humano
[14:33] <BluesKaj> hi Sidewinder1
[14:33] <iceroot> pangolin: what are you waiting for? christmas?
[14:33] <deej1976> !language | ubuntu_:
[14:33] <deej1976> !attitude | ubuntu_:
[14:34] <geirha> He's gone
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> pity
[14:34] <pangolin> iceroot: if you have suggestions on how to better catalyse please join #ubuntu-ops and share them with us
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> always a good laugh with people ranting
[14:34] <Sidewinder1> iceroot, pangolin's prolly gettin' another cup-o-coffee, from geni-around. :-)
[14:34] <huamao> lol
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[14:35] <huamao> wow!
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[14:35] <Gentoo64> I1a1YxWXpVbWhWZWtaYVpVWldjMkZGT1ZkaGVsWjZWMWQwWVdReVZrZFdXR3hyVWpCYWNGVnRlSGRsYkZWNVpVaGtXR0pHY0ZoWk1HUnZWMnhhV0ZWclpHRldWMUpRVldwS1IxSXlSa2hpUms1cFlUQndNbFp0TVRCVk1VMTRWVzVTVjJKSFVsVlpiWFIzWWpGV2NWUnRPVmRTYlhoNVZtMDFhMVl4V25OalJFSmhWbGROTVZaWGMzaGpiVXBGVld4a1RsWXlhREpXYWtKclV6RktjazVXWkZaaVJscFlXV3hhUm1ReF
[14:35] <Sidewinder1> Gentoo64, What?!
[14:36] <Sidewinder1> pangolin, So much for my coffee theory. :D
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> Gentoo64  that'sa typo, there
[14:36] <huamao> Gentoo  invasion
[14:36] <theadmin> lol
[14:37] <tiboi> @locator linux torvalds
[14:37] <Sidewinder1> Translated as "pangolin puts baseball bat, in the corner.. ;-)
[14:37] <tiboi> @find bill gates
[14:38] <Sidewinder1> I know, I'll stop.
[14:38] <Pici> tiboi: please stop
[14:39] <tiboi> ok
[14:39] <gulzar> any good alternative pdf viewer which continues to scroll next page something like evince and okular and not 'rigid' like xpdf which only scrolls one page at a time?
[14:40] <Gentoo64> gulzar, i think epdfview can
[14:40] <Gentoo64> why not evince?
[14:40] <xangua> gulzar: epdf ¿
[14:40] <apwbdjp> what's wrong with evince?
[14:40] <gulzar> Gentoo64: evince isnot looking good with openbox...
[14:40] <xangua> adobe reader¿ :P
[14:40] <Gentoo64> i dont think zathura can, not even 100% sure epdfviewer can
[14:41] <gulzar> xangua: Gentoo64: i will try epdf
[14:41] <Gentoo64> gulzar, i use epdfviewer with openbox
[14:41] <Gentoo64> works good
[14:41] <Gentoo64> looks just like evince, but without all the deps
[14:41] <gulzar> xangua: no adobe .. i will go for epdf
[14:41] <huamao> evince can do that with proper setting
[14:41] <ok2cqr> hello, does ahnybody have experience with ipv6 on Ubuntu 10.04 server, please? IPV6 is working but after few minutes it stops and works again after /etc/init.d/networking restart
[14:41] <Gentoo64> ok2cqr, try #ipv6
[14:41] <Gentoo64> you use autoconfig?
[14:42] <ok2cqr> Gentoo64, No, I wrote settings directly to interfaces file
[14:42] <Gentoo64> hmm, :s
[14:42] <Gentoo64> what net card?
[14:42] <Gentoo64> not a realtek is it?
[14:42] <ok2cqr> it is virtual server, realtek card
[14:42] <ok2cqr> 8139too
[14:42] <gulzar> huamao: no  it didn't... I installed okular for evince but okular is heavy so wanted womthing lightweight
[14:42] <ok2cqr> module
[14:43] <Gentoo64> hmm not sure
[14:43] <Gentoo64> but i know some realteks need a special drive on linux
[14:43] <Gentoo64> 8168/8111 afaik
[14:43] <Gentoo64> or the cut out
[14:43] <Gentoo64> they*
[14:43] <ok2cqr> it is virtual server, ipv4 works without any problem
[14:44] <Gentoo64> hard to say
[14:44] <Gentoo64> it shouldnt be any different to ipv4 in terms of it working
[14:44] <ok2cqr> I have two virtual servers, both have the same card and the second is working but I don't know why :-(
[14:44] <Foulad> what is the keyboard shortcut for terminal windows ?
[14:44] <gulzar> huamao: try to address with names.. it will create less confusion :)
[14:44] <apwbdjp> Foulad, Ctrl+Alt+T?
[14:44] <Gentoo64> ok2cqr, have you tried it with autonconf see if it still cutso ut?
[14:44] <xangua> Foulad: control+alt+t , cotrol+alt+F (1 to 6 )
[14:45] <r4y> hello. I was using Firefox 3.6 on Ubuntu 10.04.3 and add-ons will not pop up,so I upgraded to Firefox 8 but I still have the same problem, so I used the Software Center to download Chatzilla and I have seaMonkey running it so I could get here
[14:45] <apwbdjp> xangua, that latter isn't actually a terminal window
[14:45] <ok2cqr> Gentoo64, No I have not. I'm not sure how to use autoconf.
[14:45] <Sidewinder1> Foulad, I knew one of the terminal gurus would know. :-)
[14:45] <Gentoo64> ok2cqr, it was that by default
 <xangua> thank you , what is keyboard shortcut to change keyboard language
[14:45] <Gentoo64> before you set static ip
[14:45]  * Sidewinder1 Is definatly, one.. :-(
[14:45] <gulzar> r4y: so prob is that the addons are not working???
[14:46] <Gentoo64> ok2cqr, id ask in #ipv6 as theyd know more then in here
[14:46] <xangua> r4y: rename yout .mozilla directory to try a new profile and see if it fixes it
[14:46] <r4y> No add-ons pop up, I will check again for the exact message
[14:46] <ok2cqr> Gentoo64, but how to tell the ip address to eth0 interface? With ifconfig?
[14:46] <ok2cqr> Gentoo64, Thank you, I'll try it.
[14:46] <Gentoo64> or network/interfaces
[14:46] <ok2cqr> I didn't have anything about ipv6 there
[14:47] <Foulad>  what is keyboard shortcut to change keyboard language
[14:47] <apwbdjp> Foulad, http://www.wikihow.com/Change-Keyboard-Layout-in-Ubuntu, not sure if this is what you're looking for
[14:47] <apwbdjp> !repeat | Foulad
 thank yuo
 no , i have 2 languages on my ubuntu (arabic , english) if i would like to wirte on arabic i have to change it on top bar
[14:49] <theadmin> Foulad: If you have multiple layouts installed, you will be able to configure the shortcut to switch it in "Keyboard".
[14:49] <mboeru> hello
 is there is way to change it with keyboard ?
[14:49] <theadmin> Foulad: By default, if I recall right, it's Alt+Alt
[14:49] <mboeru> anyone here know kickseed, preseed, kickstart
[14:49] <mboeru> i need some help partitioning 2 hdds with software raid
[14:49] <theadmin> mboeru: Those are redhat tools... We don't support them...
[14:49] <Sidewinder1> Foulad, At least you had the where-with-all to enclose in "<>" so she wouldn't stick her (ubottu) tongue, out at you. :D
[14:50] <mboeru> ubuntu uses a combination of kickstart with preseed, called preseed
[14:50] <Sidewinder1> !rootirc | Guest43897
[14:50] <mboeru> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/hppa/preseed-contents.html
[14:50] <r4y> I don't know why it's not saying it now, but still nothing is poping up, but I looked under my history to find this as part of one of my searches firefox couldn't retrieve add-ons
 Alt+Alt not working for me , im trying to change my keyboard to arabic , they only way now to change it from top bar by mouse
[14:50] <dalvan> ola
[14:50] <Gentoo64> Foulad, why not set arabic as default?
[14:51] <dalvan> ??
[14:51] <theadmin> Foulad: As I said, go to "Keyboard" in the settings center thingo, you'll be able to find the shortcuts for such stuff there (and change them too)
[14:51] <theadmin> Gentoo64: It's like with English and Russian - you need to switch because you can't type English with the Russian layout and vice versa
[14:51] <Gentoo64> ah yea
[14:51] <dalvan> Galera seguinte Não esta funcionando meus efeitos visuais do Ubuntu 11.10
[14:52] <dalvan> alguem sabe com abilita-los
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> !br| dalvan
 did not find it there !!
[14:53] <mboeru> so no kickseed knowers? :(
[14:53] <Sidewinder1> MonkeyDust, How in the world do you guys/gals, differentiate from Portuguese, Spanish, Brazilian? I bow to you all!
[14:54] <deej1976> Sidewinder1 /whois nick ( ip address )
[14:54] <Gentoo64> i was gona say !it
[14:54] <Gentoo64> lol
[14:54] <deej1976> Sidewinder1 or domain
[14:54] <Sidewinder1> OIC.. Always something new to learn.. Now, if I could only type..
[14:55] <plusEV> lol
[14:55] <deej1976> Sidewinder1: Rectangular object in front of you with lots of buttons :D
[14:56] <deej1976> !info tuxtype | Sidewinder1:
[14:56] <Gentoo64> !keyboard | Sidewinder1
[14:56] <plusEV> workspace switcher + 2 monitors = 8 monitors
[14:56] <Sidewinder1> deej1976, Thought that was a calculator..
[14:56] <plusEV> this is just awesum
[14:57] <deej1976> Sidewinder1: It's the landscape one
[14:57] <r4y> Seems there is some problem for add-ons, but I am not sure if it is the same as Google has shown. I do have ad-block installed though. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=994&bih=601&q=+firefox+couldn%27t+retrieve+add-ons&oq=+firefox+couldn%27t+retrieve+add-ons&aq=f&aqi=g1g-v6&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=250200l250200l0l250962l1l1l0l0l0l0l405l405l4-1l1l0#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=fire
[14:57] <r4y> fox+couldn%27t+retrieve+add-ons+ubuntu&pbx=1&oq=firefox+couldn%27t+retrieve+add-ons+ubuntu&aq=f&aqi=g-v1&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=89764l90749l0l91112l7l4l0l3l3l2l332l1127l2-2.2l7l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=e7634fcd593c18b&biw=994&bih=601
[14:57] <FloodBot1> r4y: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:57] <r4y> sorry I didn't know that link was so long
[14:58] <deej1976> r4y: try using tinyurl.com as well
[14:58] <vegabond> hey
[14:58] <Sidewinder1> deej1976, ot, but I've actually tried many typing programs; just didn't have the patience.. :-( It's tough bein' old and "set-in-one's-ways".
[14:58] <Gentoo64> Sidewinder1, i bought a completely blank das the other week
[14:58] <vegabond> hi! please help me
[14:58] <deej1976> Sidewinder1: yes, cli rules
[14:58] <Gentoo64> can help, lol
[14:59] <r4y> thank you deej1976
[14:59] <vegabond> how can i use the command line to open an application
[14:59] <Gentoo64> vega-, type the app name
[14:59] <apwbdjp> vegabond, by typing the name of the application, and hitting enter
[14:59] <Gentoo64> bond
[15:00] <deej1976> vegabond: start a terminal and enter the name i.e. gedit
[15:00] <Gentoo64> try typing part of it and hitting tab
[15:00] <Gentoo64> some are weird names
[15:00] <Gentoo64> random e.g avidemux is avidemux_gtk
[15:00] <Gentoo64> for the gtk one ofc
[15:00] <vegabond> ok! tnx :)
[15:00] <apwbdjp> Gentoo64, even more twister: Ubuntu's disk utility: palimpsest
[15:00] <Gentoo64> yeah, lol
[15:01] <Sidewinder1> deej1976, I even tried ubuntu's sphinx-somethin'-or-other and couldn't get it configured properly, it's a speech to text program. If it'd worked, the floodbots would've set a permanent ban on my IP. ;-)
[15:01] <Gentoo64> not even tab can help you with that
[15:01] <r4y> If you want to know what the name is for a program drag and drop it into the terminal then try omitting the rest. That usually works.
[15:01] <Gentoo64> r4y, dont work in all terminals/des.
[15:01] <ok2cqr> Gentoo64, I just looked at dmesg and see eth0: no IPv6 routers present but ping6 to ipv6.google.com works
[15:01] <Gentoo64> bad practice imo
[15:01] <Gentoo64> ok2cqr, thats normall message
[15:02] <deej1976> Sidewinder1: Excellent wouldn't have to watch this terminal.
[15:02] <apwbdjp> r4y, Gentoo64 I remember an app that would give you the name of whatever window you clic on.. anyone know about that?
[15:02] <Gentoo64> :s not sure
[15:03] <llutz> apwbdjp: xwininfo
[15:03] <apwbdjp> llutz, I love you
[15:04] <Sidewinder1> deej1976, No, no; I'd still have to read the screen; just would've been able to speak (with no typos/spelling mistakes) and text would've been in my response window; just hit 'enter'.
[15:04] <apwbdjp> xprop seems to help with that too
[15:04] <Gentoo64> ok2cqr, keep a tail -f /var/log/messages (or similar) open see if it says anything when it cuts off
[15:05] <Gentoo64> or plain dmesg
[15:05] <WicketUser> hi , i tried to install mysql server and upgrade it but i got some error that i am not able to remove mysql server or install it again.. any suggestion?
[15:05] <deej1976> Sidewinder1: Even better then, Screen Reader reading off replies, and then a voice to text convert, woow
[15:05] <Sidewinder1> If, only..
[15:06] <r4y> Sorry for flooding. I guess I should leave
[15:06] <ok2cqr> Gentoo64, nothing was added
[15:07] <Gentoo64> so ipv4 still works fine when v6 cuts off?
[15:07] <Sidewinder1> r4y, I didn't think you were flooding..
[15:07] <Gentoo64> and only on one box, both have same net cards?
[15:07] <WicketUser> guys, i am new to ubuntu.. could u tell me how to uninstall a software completely?
[15:07] <Gentoo64> same router etc?
[15:07] <ok2cqr> Gentoo64, yes, ipv4 is still working
[15:07] <Gentoo64> WicketUser, apt-get purge app
[15:07] <r45c4l> hello friends, actually i am having some strange problem that when i am trying to open some websites its saying may be my system is infected with some virus, so i have taken the o/p of netstat -an and pstree can any one help me to figure out the problem
[15:08] <deej1976> WicketUser: sudo apt-get purge [packagename]
[15:08] <r45c4l> i am not that good with linux
[15:08] <Gentoo64> ok2cqr, hmm weird
[15:08] <Gentoo64> ok2cqr, paste /etc/network/interfaces?
[15:08] <OerHeks> WicketUser, normally stop the service before removal.
[15:08] <Sidewinder1> r4y, OIC, up above; everyone makes a mistake every now and then.. NP.
[15:08] <Gentoo64> ok2cqr, i probably cant help tho
[15:08] <ok2cqr> Gentoo64, it seems that it iw working only if I leave ping6 ipv6.google.com running. After I terminate it, the connection is gone in a few seconds.
[15:09] <r4y> Hmm, well, light bulb. I should backup .mozilla, then try un-installing ad-block then see if my problem with add-ons not popping up go away,so I need to go.
[15:09] <Gentoo64> r45c4l, its a stupid advert
[15:09] <Gentoo64> ignore it
[15:09] <Gentoo64> ok2cqr, ahh
[15:09] <r45c4l> but Gentoo64 its really not allowing me to open couple of websites and asking me to fill stupid captchas
[15:09] <Gentoo64> ok2cqr, make sure ipv6 ping is enabled on ur box
[15:10] <Gentoo64> youll need it for a tunel
[15:10] <Gentoo64> or itl disconnect you
[15:10] <r45c4l> if u want i can upload  a screenshot too Gentoo64
[15:10] <Gentoo64> r45c4l, ok
[15:10] <r4y> Take care all. And thank you for the kind words Sidewinder1
[15:10] <Sidewinder1> r4y, As an aside, I use adblock plus and have never has a problem with add-ons..
[15:10] <ok2cqr> Gentoo64, I have native connection.
[15:10] <Gentoo64> oh ok
[15:10] <Sidewinder1> :D
[15:10] <Gentoo64> erm
[15:10] <Barbarian> Good evening ladies and gentlemen
[15:10] <r4y> I have used ad-block a whole lot before without problems, so I don't what is going on
[15:10] <zach_> so I'm a newbie to irc... is there anyone that would be kind enough to walk me through it.... unless I figured it out already
[15:11] <Gentoo64> r45c4l, screenshot please
[15:11] <r45c4l> ok 1 sec Gentoo64 till then here is th e OP of netstat -a and pstree http://pastebin.com/QqViiuEY
[15:11] <Gentoo64> netstat means nothing to me
[15:11] <Gentoo64> it could be anything
[15:11] <Sidewinder1> r4y, It can, at times, be a challenge, but I'm reasonably certain that you'll figger' it out.
[15:12] <Barbarian> r45c4l, because of the way linux works, any virus is probably confined to your browser. Try uninstalling and purging, then reinstalling it
[15:12] <r4y> isn't there an irc channel for zach, it is the freenode channel or something like that. I remember asking before
[15:12] <Gentoo64> Barbarian, that wont do anything
[15:12] <Barbarian> Gentoo64, no?
[15:12] <Gentoo64> you cant get viruses like on windows
[15:12] <zach_> ya r4y i think i screwed up the setup
[15:12] <Gentoo64> it wouldnt be confuned to the browser anyway
[15:12] <Gentoo64> imo it just wouldnt happen
[15:13] <Gentoo64> unless it was ie in wine (possibly)
[15:13] <r4y> I run chatzilla. It's great. It's an add-on for Firefox
[15:13] <enth> Opera has a pretty okay integrated irc client
[15:13] <r4y> You can also get chatzilla through the Ubuntu Software Center
[15:13] <Barbarian> Thats the way I've understood it, that individual applications can get compromised, but that never affects any other app or the operating system
[15:14] <zach_> cool thanks a bunch man
[15:14] <r4y> No Problem
[15:14] <Gentoo64> Barbarian, nah. the whole thing about runnin "not" as root is so if anything bad does happen, the worst that can happen is a ruined /home
[15:14] <Gentoo64> not a ruined /
[15:14] <r45c4l> Gentoo64, and Barbarian here is the screenshot http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/249/captchag.png/
[15:14] <r45c4l> by the way Barbarian i did not got it what you want me to do
[15:15] <Gentoo64> r45c4l, ok that looks normal
[15:15] <Gentoo64> the site just wants you to fill in crap
[15:15] <Gentoo64> to proceed
[15:15] <Barbarian> yeah... nothing to do with viruses there
[15:15] <Sidewinder1> Barbarian, I believe that you are essentially correct. You might look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812 if you've not already seen it.
[15:16] <r45c4l> yeah but these sites are normal sites Gentoo64 and Barbarian and this never happened before
[15:16] <Gentoo64> r45c4l, no idea. its not a virus tho
[15:16] <r4y> Wow, what a great reason to have home protected with sudo, no?
[15:16] <r45c4l> its saying that may be some bot can be also there so is that possible ?
[15:16] <Gentoo64> it cant be
[15:16] <dbristow> Looks like the precise-preinstalled-desktop-armel+ac100.bootimg that's currently on cdimage.ubuntu.com fails the MD5SUM/SHA1SUM/SHA256SUM checksums
[15:16] <Gentoo64> r45c4l, then it wouldnt be /home
[15:16] <dbristow> 12.04 alpha-1
[15:17] <Gentoo64> r45c4l, as youd be running stuff as root, which is worse
[15:17] <Barbarian> r45c4l, have you tried filling that in and clicking next?
[15:17] <dbristow> Everywhere I have been able to download it from, it fails the checksum.
[15:17] <Gentoo64> r45c4l, you using proxy?
[15:17] <Gentoo64> tor, web prioxy whatever
[15:17] <Gentoo64> its prob that
[15:17] <dbristow> Every other file passes.
[15:17] <r45c4l> no Gentoo64 thats what i also thought too but i checked and i am not on any proxy
[15:17] <Barbarian> Also, thanks Sidewinder1! Thats a great read as I recently got my hands on a debian server I ssh to
[15:17] <Gentoo64> r45c4l, what dns you using?
[15:17] <r45c4l> tor i have disable as i dont need at home
[15:18] <Gentoo64> r45c4l, id check for proxies, or random dns
[15:18] <Sidewinder1> Barbarian, My pleasure. :D
[15:18] <r45c4l> Gentoo64, right now i am using a data card and if u want my dns i can give u the details here
[15:18] <r45c4l> wait
[15:18] <Gentoo64> they can show as "bots" or suspicious and make you fill out captchas
[15:18] <Gentoo64> i reckon its a proxy
[15:18] <codazoda> Uh-oh. I uninstalled nvidia and now my MacBook Pro won't boot.  Any ideas?  Recovery mode locks up at the resume, fsck, remount, root menu.
[15:18] <WicketUser> how to stop service in ubuntu?
[15:18] <r45c4l> r45c4l@h4ckb0x:~$ nslookup
[15:18] <r45c4l> > server
[15:18] <r45c4l> Default server: 10.228.1.114
[15:18] <r45c4l> Address: 10.228.1.114#53
[15:18] <r45c4l> Default server: 10.228.1.113
[15:19] <r45c4l> Address: 10.228.1.113#53
[15:19] <FloodBot1> r45c4l: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <r45c4l> opps my bad
[15:19] <r45c4l> sorry for flooding
[15:19] <Gentoo64> r45c4l, its ok, use a paste site next time tho. http://dpaste.com/
[15:19] <enth> he be flodden
[15:19] <Barbarian> https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/evilmalware.html <--- HAHAHAHAHHAAHA
[15:20] <Gentoo64> heh its true
[15:20] <Gentoo64> see why linux not having viruses, is nothing to do with market share?
[15:20] <r45c4l> Gentoo64, and Barbarian this is the OP http://pastebin.com/9sfLV0KW
[15:20] <codazoda> Can't get Ubuntu 11.10 to boot, even in safe mode it locks up.  Am I reinstalling?
[15:21] <Gentoo64> r45c4l, no idea what that dns is
[15:21] <Barbarian> r45c4l, looks normal to me
[15:21] <Sidewinder1> codazoda, New install?
[15:21] <Gentoo64> try googles standard one
[15:21] <Gentoo64> 8.8.8.8
[15:21] <dehorse> damn it and I switched to linux to avoid virus's
[15:21] <Gentoo64> thats like the standard dns nowadays
[15:21] <Barbarian> dehorse, lol
[15:21] <r45c4l> ok Gentoo64 and Barbarian just one more question what if i try to check my outgoing packets with wireshark ??
[15:21] <r45c4l> should i just check for http packets or something else too ???
[15:22] <Gentoo64> you could
[15:22] <codazoda> SideWinder1, No, I had 10.10 then 11.04 then 11.10.  Upgraded each.  I just uninstalled nvidia today and now it won't boot, even in recovery mode.
[15:22] <Sidewinder1> dehorse, Please have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[15:22] <Gentoo64> but itll probbaly just be a load of mess
[15:22] <dehorse> i know. im  stupid lol
[15:22] <r45c4l> yeah you are right Gentoo64
[15:22] <Gentoo64> r45c4l, try different dns (googles) and see if it goes away
[15:22] <dehorse> THANKS sidewinder
[15:22] <Gentoo64> i googled ur dns ip and cant find anything "normal"
[15:23] <Barbarian> r45c4l, don't think you'd find much with wireshark tbh
[15:23] <r45c4l> aaah thats a nice idea Gentoo64 thanks, let me try
[15:23] <Gentoo64> but i spent 2 secs looking
[15:23] <Sidewinder1> dehorse, Glad to help.
[15:23] <rtr-> hi
[15:24] <codazoda> Is there a keystoke to exit the "Recovery Menu"?  That seems "broken" on my box.
[15:24] <rtr-> is it possible to install a minimal-install from a usual setupcd?
[15:24] <Gentoo64> rtr-, dont think so
[15:24] <Gentoo64> otherwise they wouldnt make a minimal cd :)
[15:25] <codazoda> I get a "low speed usb device" note and then the menu is unresponsive.
[15:25] <Barbarian> rtr-, put a minimal install on a usb with unetbootin, easiest way
[15:25] <WicketUser> hi , please could u tell me how to stop a running service in ubuntu 11.10?
[15:25] <Gentoo64> service stop
[15:26] <Gentoo64> service something stop
[15:26] <WicketUser> thx
[15:27] <czytelnia> gruby
[15:27] <Barbarian> Gentoo64, didn't know that, I always used init.d. I come here to help people and I end up learning, win
[15:27] <|Anthony|> can i use this package in 10.04:
[15:27] <|Anthony|> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/web/rtmpdump
[15:28] <Gentoo64> Barbarian, ubuntu uses service as well, which apparently stops in a nicer way
[15:28] <Gentoo64> i dont use ubuntu, i learn abotu it in here lol
[15:28] <WicketUser> Gentoo64 : the service is there when i list them but i got : stop: Unknown instance:
[15:28] <Barbarian> Gentoo64, just tried it with yacy, don't know the details but it's certainly faster
[15:29] <dehorse> sidewinder, aren't we on firefox 4 not 3?
[15:29] <Gentoo64> WicketUser, right service name?
[15:29] <WicketUser> yes
[15:29] <Barbarian> WicketUser, What are you trying to stop?
[15:29] <dehorse> slash 8
[15:29] <Gentoo64> damn, 9s nearly stable
[15:29] <WicketUser> mysql service
[15:30] <Gentoo64> WicketUser, service mysql stop
[15:30] <Gentoo64> might be mysqld
[15:30] <Gentoo64> idk
[15:31] <sskalnik> /etc/init.d/mysql stop ?
[15:31] <WicketUser> i got : mysqlid: unrecognized service
[15:31] <smax> moin
[15:31] <Gentoo64> type
[15:31] <dehorse> is the standard firewall effective?
[15:31] <Gentoo64> typo
[15:31] <Gentoo64> dehorse, yes
[15:31] <smax> I want to read the source of a tool.   Where does scapy go, if I apt-get install scapy?
[15:31] <Gentoo64> its diaabled by default btw
[15:31] <smax> it's a python program
[15:31] <sskalnik> WicketUser, mysqld, not mysqlId
[15:31] <Barbarian> WicketUser, without the 'I'
[15:31] <dehorse> cool then i think im good thanks gentoo
[15:32] <Gentoo64> dehorse, just sudo ufw enable
[15:32] <Gentoo64> then allow ports
[15:32] <Sidewinder1> |Anthony|, It's not recommended to use packages from one version to another.
[15:32] <Gentoo64> or use the gui
[15:32] <WicketUser> the same .. mysqld: unrecognized service
[15:32] <dehorse> gentoo you're a god
[15:32] <Gentoo64> WicketUser, try sudo service mysqld start
[15:32] <Barbarian> smax, probably in /etc somewhere
[15:32] <samsul> # service mysql stop
[15:33] <Barbarian> smax, or /var
[15:33] <codazoda> Yup, the recovery menu is just broken.  I pulled recovery out of the boot options and I'm into a command line.
[15:33] <WicketUser> the same
[15:33] <codazoda> Shew.
[15:33] <Gentoo64> WicketUser, no idea :s
[15:33] <Sidewinder1> |Anthony|, Especially Precise (not yet released) pkgs, in 10.04..
[15:33] <Gentoo64> WicketUser, try /etc/init.d/mysqld stop for the sake of it
[15:34] <Gentoo64> if that works, no idea why service dont
[15:34] <urthmover> good morning
[15:34] <WicketUser> /etc/init.d/mysqld: unrecognized service
[15:34] <sskalnik> Gentoo64, not /etc/init.d/mysql stop ?
[15:34] <Gentoo64> ^ try mysql
[15:34] <Gentoo64> idk i dont use mysql lol
[15:35] <Sidewinder1> |Anthony|, And, since you're using a cloak, I would suspect that you already know better. ;-)
[15:35] <sskalnik> It should be with a d, but sometimes...
[15:35] <WicketUser> when i list the services i can see a service called 'mysql' but when i want to stop it i get "stop: Unknown instance:
[15:35] <WicketUser> "
[15:35] <Gentoo64> :s
[15:36] <Gentoo64> try rebooting maybe and see if it stops then
[15:36] <Gentoo64> no idea
[15:36] <WicketUser> thx alot
[15:36] <Barbarian> WicketUser, do ps aux | grep mysql
[15:36] <Barbarian> take the PID
[15:36] <Barbarian> and do kill <pid>
[15:36] <Gentoo64> i know i shouldnt suggest rebooting, but it can help sort itself out
[15:38] <sskalnik> WicketUser, sudo status mysql
[15:38] <r4y> How to I down grade firefox back to 3.6 in Ubuntu 10.04.3
[15:39] <LiNuX`sup> morning linux users... quick question. Has anyone else using ubuntu 11.10 ever experience video display bugs where the screen will randomly get pixelated as if the vid card were dead but then fine after reboot?
[15:39] <WicketUser> i got user1     3867  0.0  0.0   4444   812 pts/0    S+   16:36   0:00 grep --color=auto mysql but when i did kill i got "No such process
[15:39] <WicketUser> "
[15:39] <Gentoo64> r4y, youd have to somehow mask it afaik. why would you want to?
[15:39] <Barbarian> LiNuX`sup, nope, never happened to me. What vid card and what drivers?
[15:39] <Gentoo64> LiNuX`sup, you using nouveau?
[15:40] <Barbarian> LiNuX`sup, nvm, gotta run. GL!
[15:40] <r4y> ad-block plus doesn't work for it, so it is disabled
[15:40] <Gentoo64> r4y, it should
[15:40] <r4y> Firefox 8 I mean
[15:40] <Gentoo64> works on ff8 for me
[15:40] <Gentoo64> so it does work... :s
[15:40] <LiNuX`sup> barabrian: I'm on a mac using bootcamp so I'm clueless r4y: I don't know what that is so I assume not
[15:40] <sskalnik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/760984/ <[15:41] <r4y> I tried un-installing ad-block plus and re-insalling it. I guess I shouldn't use the ad-block plus from the Ubuntu Software Center
[15:41] <Gentoo64> r4y, its one of the most popular extentions, afaik it should work even on the daily builds
[15:41] <LiNuX`sup> the issue randomly occurs, it's happened 3 times in the past month
[15:41] <Gentoo64> well uninstall that, and use the one from the ff addons page
[15:41] <r4y> OK, I will be back
[15:41] <Gentoo64> LiNuX`sup, ive had that, but only using nouveau (nvidia)
[15:42] <Gentoo64> could be something to do with firmware
[15:42] <Gentoo64> being loaded
[15:42] <caki> +i
[15:42] <caki> my ip adress
[15:42] <Gentoo64> screens totally pixelated, like the cards dead. exact problem i had
[15:42] <Pici> sskalnik: Have you tried asking in #ubuntu-packaging yet?
[15:42] <Gentoo64> only with nouveau
[15:42] <caki> mode +i
[15:42] <Gentoo64> caki, ?
[15:43] <Gentoo64> LiNuX`sup, try lspci | grep VGA
[15:43] <LiNuX`sup> Gentoo64: how can I find out what this mac has?
[15:43] <Gentoo64> ^
[15:44] <LiNuX`sup> k will google it, thanks
[15:44] <meerkats> can anyone tell me where to find, /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope?
[15:44] <LiNuX`sup> are any of the people in here actual employees of ubuntu?
[15:44] <Gentoo64> LiNuX`sup, quite possibly nvidia you have
[15:44] <Gentoo64> LiNuX`sup, nope.
[15:44] <Pici> LiNuX`sup: There may be some.
[15:44] <LiNuX`sup> I think so too since amd bout ati
[15:44] <Gentoo64> i dont know much about macs, but i know they do use nvidia
[15:44] <pangolin> meerkats: in /proc/sys/kernel/yama/
[15:45] <Gentoo64> not sure if 100% do tho
[15:45] <me0w> hey guys I have some problems with sound in Ubuntu 11.10.. the sound is enabled but I hear nothing in my headphones :(
[15:45] <LiNuX`sup> I know I hate macs which is why I run ubuntu!
[15:45] <LiNuX`sup> lol
[15:45] <dehorse> one more dumb question: Force Quit?
[15:45] <Gentoo64> dehorse, you asking what it does?
[15:45] <LiNuX`sup> dehorse: system monitor you can end task
[15:45] <dehorse> ty
[15:45] <dehorse> no how to
[15:45] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[15:45] <LiNuX`sup> dehorse: you can also easily install the force quit app
[15:45] <meerkats> pangolin, hidden folders? in usr/share?
[15:46] <LiNuX`sup> right cick show hidden folders
[15:46] <Gentoo64> LiNuX`sup, ok so do you have nvidia? if so did you manually install any drivers for it?
[15:46] <pangolin> meerkats: are you being serious? the path is /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope it is a file try nano /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope
[15:46] <|Anthony|> Sidewinder1, yes i do, but i was hoping that the rtmpdump 2.4 package might not be version specific
[15:46] <LiNuX`sup> no, only what ubuntu felt was best
[15:46] <Gentoo64> if not youll be on nouveau (kernel driver)
[15:46] <Gentoo64> ok
[15:46] <|Anthony|> don't want to build from source
[15:46] <meerkats> pangolin, just why do you think I ask?
[15:46] <Gentoo64> well lspci | grep VGA
[15:46] <Gentoo64> LiNuX`sup, ^
[15:46] <Gentoo64> if its nvidia, install nvidia drivers
[15:46] <pangolin> meerkats: no idea why you are asking where it is when you are providing the exact path.
[15:47] <LiNuX`sup> Gentoo64: ok I'm going to try my luck I will update soon
[15:47] <gulzar> how to have best looking fonts with openbox? What this propety is known as?
[15:48] <Gentoo64> gulzar, what ubuntu
[15:48] <Gentoo64> it should have lcd patched fonts already
[15:48] <Gentoo64> you might need to tweak some configs for them to affect
[15:48] <gulzar> Gentoo64: but what this propert is called?
[15:48] <Gentoo64> try lxappearance
[15:48] <Gentoo64> font rendering
[15:48] <Pici> !enter
[15:48] <gulzar> Gentoo64: OK
[15:49] <LiNuX`sup> Gentoo64: it's actually ATI surprisingly as I know they use intel chips
[15:49] <Gentoo64> gulzar, lxappearance has options for fonts in there for openbox
[15:49] <Gentoo64> LiNuX`sup, hmm no idea about ati. try installing ati drivers though it might help
[15:49] <meerkats> can anyone tell me how to find, /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ not using the terminal?
[15:49] <Sidewinder1> |Anthony|, Most are version specific; and you're asking for major problems if you try to "mix-and-match; beside the point, doing so is totally unsupported, here. :-)
[15:49] <LiNuX`sup> Gentoo64: I am now, thanks
[15:49] <|Anthony|> yeah
[15:49] <|Anthony|> :/
[15:49] <Gentoo64> meerkats, what do you mean find?
[15:50] <Gentoo64> you already know where it is
[15:50] <LiNuX`sup> while it's installing has anyone figured out the window snapping bug where you randomly get the orange box?
[15:50] <ks07> Hey guys, I'm going to resize some mdadm soft raid 1 partitions - does mdadm --resize change the physical partitions itself, or will I need to edit them with fdisk?
[15:50] <lauratika> when trying to open a link in totem it says  "Cannot connect to proxy (127.0.0.1)" but im not behinf a proxy. how i disable proxy in ubuntu 11.10
[15:50] <LiNuX`sup> I'd like that to be fixed without disabling window snapping as I use it
[15:50] <|Anthony|> Sidewinder1, well, 12.04 has alsa 1.0.24 and rtmpdump 2.4 which are needed for xbmc
[15:50] <gulzar> Gentoo64: yes there are. so what to choose - sub-pixel geometry has multiple options : RGB , BGR , VRGB, VBGR .  Which is best?
[15:50] <|Anthony|> but it's in alpha
[15:50] <Gentoo64> gulzar, plain RGB
[15:50] <Sidewinder1> |Anthony|, Not that, sometimes I try to get "creative" but, that's at your own risk. ;-)
[15:50] <meerkats> Gentoo64, I need to edit a file in that directory, I can just cd to it in the terminal but I have no idea what to do next. I just thought, if I access that directory via GUI Ubuntu would let me open it as a txt or sh file
[15:50] <gulzar> Gentoo64: Ok . That was default
[15:51] <vinit> hi all
[15:51] <pangolin> meerkats: open your file manager (nautilus) click on the Root folder > and you will see a folder for proc
[15:51] <demon> Hi i use Ubuntu the first time an i have some problems with the ati-driver-installer-11-11-x86.x86_64.run i use it with Ati Powercolour 3850HD Agp an after the installation the bootscreen iss in small resolution swap to 1920x1080 when desktop runs iss okay because  i have no graphical power in Ubunto 10.04.3 Lts it feels Ati chipset iss not running no power on desktop i use Ati with asus a7n8xe and 2 gig ram 3200XP Amd(old system)and after
[15:51] <demon>  a small time ubuntu freeze in i must take a newstart.The problem iss not with this driver alone the problem iss with all fglrx drivers for ati the standart graphic driver runs without problems an desktop power because i want more power to game with fglrx driver on Ubuntu iss there anywone who can help me to config this in Ubuntu or iss that not possible with Ati 3850HD AGP.
[15:51] <demon> iss here german help in this CHat?
[15:51] <FloodBot1> demon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:51] <demon> iss this the right chat for this problem ?
[15:51] <Gentoo64> meerkats, you do know proc is temporary right?
[15:51] <Gentoo64> virtual fs
[15:51] <meerkats> Gentoo64, i HAD NO IDEA
[15:51] <meerkats> sorry
[15:51] <Gentoo64> ok, so now you know
[15:51] <sskalnik> !deutsch
[15:51] <gulzar> Gentoo64: and there is hinting also .... with : slight, medium, full
[15:51] <Gentoo64> mostly echo is used for /proc
[15:51] <demon> ja
[15:51] <Gentoo64> for temp stuff
[15:51] <meerkats> Gentoo64, the noob is goinna ask, meaning?
[15:51] <Gentoo64> gulzar, i use full gunting
[15:52] <Sidewinder1> |Anthony|, Please keep in mind that 12.04 won't be released for several months and is still in 'beta'; you have a lot more 'guts', than I..
[15:52] <Gentoo64> hinting
[15:52] <gulzar> Gentoo64: Ok done. Thank You
[15:52] <Gentoo64> gulzar, but try slight it might look better to you (it less sharp)
[15:52] <Gentoo64> i prefer full
[15:52] <gulzar> Gentoo64:  OK.. then will check and see :)
[15:53] <lauratika> anyone?
[15:53] <Gentoo64> meerkats, a lot of /proc is kernel stuff and can be set permenantly in sysctl.conf
[15:53] <Gentoo64> use echo for temp settings
[15:54] <demon> jbache?
[15:54] <jason00> Question - I want to create a DD backup of my SD card. How would I do it? sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/home/user/sdbackup.tar.gz ???
[15:55] <Gentoo64> meerkats, to explain, say you want to use noop scheduler, you can do: echo "noop" > /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler but its gone after reboot
[15:55] <|Anthony|> Sidewinder1, the 10.04 box i have put together right now to use for xbmc is a pain... i don't do updates cause i'm tired of packages breaking... forget how to "pin" a package so it doesn't get uninstalled during updates (alsa 1.0.24)
[15:55] <Gentoo64> meerkats, so you can add sysctl options to have them loaded at boot
[15:55] <Gentoo64> or do the kernel yourself ofc
[15:56] <meerkats> ok Gentoo64 , ill have too google anyways
[15:56] <BluesKaj> jason00, why the tar extension ..dd it first then compress the file
[15:56] <RaTTuS|BIG> jason00 like http://www.backuphowto.info/linux-backup-hard-disk-clone-dd
[15:56] <jason00> BluesKaj: but what do I DD it to? I'm not DDing it to another flash drive or else I could do if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc
[15:56] <demon> okay
[15:56] <jason00> RaTTuS|BIG: ahhh! .img! That's what it was. I had forgotten what it was when I read about it a few weeks ago.
[15:57] <VinZe_DiamoNd> hi
[15:57] <RaTTuS|BIG> but also - liek dd if=/dev/daa conv=sync,noerror bs=64k | gzip -c  > /mnt/sda1/hda.img.gz
[15:57] <RaTTuS|BIG> sort of thing - also the HD values occoringly
[15:58] <apwbdjp> RaTTuS|BIG, any reason for the 64K block?
[15:59] <RaTTuS|BIG> apwbdjp - yeah bigger reads are better than the stansdard - even 1M may get it faster
[15:59] <RaTTuS|BIG> in fact I'd use 1M as a default
[15:59] <RaTTuS|BIG> back after coffee and cake
[15:59] <apwbdjp> RaTTuS|BIG, oh, me too about the 1M, I though you used smaller for the compression or something.
[16:00] <trosky> Hola
[16:01] <jason00> RaTTuS|BIG: I don't really want speed or anything. I just want to ensure what I have in the .img is identical to the sd card contents. Would the standard if=/dev/sdb of=/home/user/disk.img do the job?
[16:02] <r4y_> OK, I kept running in cycles on the problem I had, but now it's fixed I think
[16:03] <demon> thanks
[16:05] <r4y_> I for some reason had flash 10 installed instead of the flash installer. I installed the flash installer then installed flash from their website Then I removed adblock completely with the Synaptic Package Manager, then I installed adblock with Firefox
[16:06] <r4y_> Now add-ons pop-up and are installable, however chatzilla is said to not be compatible with Firefox 8
[16:06] <Gentoo64> maybe it isnt yet
[16:07] <r4y_> That's what I think
[16:07] <Gentoo64> it should say on their site
[16:07] <r4y_> the first comment by someone says that
[16:08] <r4y_> Sorry I am not fast a typing and it's hard to put things into words sometimes for me, but everyone has their own
[16:08] <r4y_> Thank you for the help
[16:09] <Gentoo64> i understood you
[16:09] <sskalnik> If theoretically I trust the name of the current linux-headers package over "uname -r", how might I strip the path to the linux headers down to the same format as "uname -r"?
[16:09] <overdub> how can i dump to terminal all flags the present kernel was compiled with?
[16:09] <Gentoo64> overdub, not sure thats possible
[16:09] <Gentoo64> i could br wrong
[16:09] <r4y_> I know, but I kept rewording what I was going to say and I couldn't type as quick as I was thinking
[16:09] <Gentoo64> r4y_, its ok
[16:10] <r4y_> Not that I think all that fast
[16:10] <Gentoo64> dont matter lol
[16:10] <Gentoo64> overdub, why do you need to know?
[16:10] <r4y_> I know. Thank you.
[16:10] <Gentoo64> overdub, be default its O2 afaik
[16:10] <r4y_> Take care. Bye
[16:10] <Gentoo64> depends on distro, some is OS
[16:10] <overdub> Gentoo64: curious and want to see
[16:10] <meadhikari> my admin does not give me crontab, is there any workaround?
[16:11] <deej1976> overdub: There was/is and option for the .configure of the kernel compile to be compress in /proc/.something but I don't think it's enabled
[16:11] <Gentoo64> overdub, zgrep SIZE /proc/config.gz
[16:11] <Gentoo64> ubuntu may not use proc config idk
[16:11] <larryone> hi guys, copy and paste on my ubuntu desktop box seem to have stopped working as expected
[16:12] <larryone> I suspected synergy may have been interfering, but the symptoms persisted after killing it
[16:12] <larryone> any idea where I can look to try to diagnose copy and paste failures?
[16:12] <larryone> or generic clipboard schtuff?
[16:12] <Gentoo64> in what way is it broke?
[16:13] <Gentoo64> middle click?
[16:13] <Gentoo64> or proper paste
[16:13] <larryone> usualy i highlight to copy and middle click to paste
[16:13] <larryone> this does nothign
[16:13] <Gentoo64> that can be fragile imo
[16:13] <larryone> shift insert does nothing
[16:13] <larryone> highlight, right click, copy
[16:14] <Gentoo64> what about normal copy (ctrl c) then paste
[16:14] <larryone> then right clisk, and paste is greyed out
[16:14] <Gentoo64> :S
[16:14] <Gentoo64> dont know
[16:14] <deej1976> overdub: cat /boot/config-`uname -r`
[16:14] <larryone> hmm
[16:14] <Gentoo64> larryone, what are you copuing text from?
[16:15] <hatchetjack> any ideas on how to install devede in 11.10?
[16:15] <Gentoo64> only thing it dotn work for me with is if i cop from incognito browser, then close the browser
[16:15] <larryone> ctrl-c and ctrl-v seem to be ok in firefox for example, but ctrl-c for copying stuff in the terminal is no good =0)
[16:15] <hatchetjack> I seem to be in dependenacy hell
[16:15] <Gentoo64> larryone, thats because ctrl c is cancel in terminal
[16:15] <celthunder> larryone: which terminal app are you using
[16:15] <deej1976> hatchetjack: sudo apt-get install devede
[16:15] <larryone> yes, i know
[16:15] <overdub> deej1976: just found that with google and about to try it, thanks
[16:15] <Gentoo64> you need right click, paste (in gnome terminal)
[16:15] <larryone> i'm using gnome-terminal
[16:15] <larryone> it worked up till recently
[16:16] <larryone> never seen it fail before
[16:16] <hatchetjack> deej1976: what does aptitude choke on it?
[16:16] <celthunder> then theres shorcuts for copy and paste i don't know what it is though cuase i use urxvt
[16:16] <Gentoo64> larryone, well ctrl +c or v wont work in terminal for either
[16:16] <Gentoo64> you need to right click
[16:16] <Gentoo64> then copy or paste
[16:16] <Gentoo64> apart from that, no idea :s
[16:16] <larryone> i know - i do most of my stuff on terminal
[16:17] <deej1976> hatchetjack: Just updating system
[16:17] <larryone> but the menu items copy and paste on gnome terminal dont work
[16:17] <Gentoo64> maybe its a bug, somewhere. no idea
[16:17] <Gentoo64> :( sorry
[16:17] <larryone> and the highlight and middle-click clipboarding in my browser isnt working either
[16:17] <dawid> daw
[16:17] <larryone> so it's a problem that isnt tied to gnome-terminal
[16:18] <Gentoo64> maybe the de, or something. really hard for me to say
[16:18] <riffautae> larryone: xorg is in charge of the clipboard for the most part
[16:18] <shila> ciaoooo hellooo
[16:18] <larryone> riffautae, as i would expect
[16:18] <shila> !list
[16:18] <riffautae> larryone: there are 2, one text buffer and another just lets apps pass binary data
[16:18] <dawid> tis ist main 1 linux
[16:19] <dawid> hi
[16:19] <larryone> synergy teds to refer to them as clipboard0 and clipboard 1
[16:19] <deej1976> hatchetjack: Looks like aptitude install doesn't like libavformat-extra-52 libpostproc-extra-52  libswscale-extra-2, and wants to remove 126 others
[16:19] <Gentoo64> larryone, idk what synergy is but sounds like some other apps taking control of it
[16:19] <Gentoo64> or some de setting
[16:19] <riffautae> larryone: other then restarting X i cant figure out how to reset the clipboard
[16:19] <larryone> but it's not bring anything i copy form the windows synergy server to the linux client
[16:20] <larryone> synergy is a software kvm
[16:20] <deej1976> hatchetjack: sudo apt-get install devede, this just works though
[16:20] <larryone> but the problm persists after switching it off
[16:20] <RaTTuS|BIG> use synergy+ and it's a KM no V in it
[16:21] <larryone> damnit, dont want to have to resort to a microsoft type solution
[16:21] <larryone> RaTTuS|BIG, pedantic, but yes, you're right
[16:21] <deej1976> hatchetjack: I have no additional ppa's
[16:21] <slakcphil> i am still having trouble trying to figure out why my rsync backups to a usb3.0 external hdd are taking so long.
[16:21] <slakcphil> hdparm seems to read from the disk at 2660/mbps
[16:22] <larryone> restating the synergy server and client does nothing
[16:22] <RaTTuS|BIG> slakcphil - becase there is a lot of data to read and compare
[16:22] <Twinkletoes> I've followed a few docs but can't seem to configure nat'ing using ufw.  Is ufw worth it for simple firewall rules, or was it an experiment which flopped?
[16:23] <slakcphil> RaTTus|BIG, ok so like the 180gb .vmdk file is causing the bottleneck?
[16:23] <overdub> slakcphil: possibly slow write speed? this has been my experience with external hard drives
[16:24] <ochosi> anyone here up for testing a theme for Unity?
[16:24] <slakcphil> overdub, hhmm, do you know of any good testing utilities for the write speed?
[16:25] <overdub> slack-m_: hdparm might have that feature, or the specs for your drive
[16:25] <slakcphil> RaTTuS|BIG it may be the compare part? does it do estimating?(rsync)
[16:26] <overdub> slakcphil: i mean, have to keep an eye on tab complete with 1600 plus users in here
[16:26] <bbbbbbbb> can i use my laptop that's connected via ethernet only to create a wireless network i can use with my ipod?
[16:27] <RaTTuS|BIG> slakcphil hdparam -Tt /dev/sdwhatever
[16:27] <udonthavetoknow> does somebody know why people don't get my messages by using the facebook-plugin in pidgin? everything else is fine, i see people being online, going offline etc...
[16:27] <Sidewinder1> slakcphil, I would suspect that if you're verifying (crc or Md5sum type stuff) each and every file, it would think significantly longer.
[16:28] <j1mst1x> Before I flood the channel with questions about gnome shell troubleshooting questions is there a channel already setup for that?
[16:28] <Sidewinder1> think=take
[16:28] <Sidewinder1> Actually, I guess both would work. :D
[16:29] <slakcphil> RaTTuS|BIG, i have done that and it says 2660/mbps
[16:29] <slakcphil> Sidewinder1, do you think a script to use cp would be faster than rsync?
[16:29] <bbbbbbbb> question: can i set up my laptop that's connected via ethernet to create a wireless network i can use with my ipod?
[16:30] <Sidewinder1> slakcphil, I have no idea; I've never backed up with cp.
[16:31] <slakcphil> RaTTuS|BIG, that seems to be testing a read and not a write
[16:31] <RaTTuS|BIG> slakcphil - rsync will be fast than cp if oyu have any data on the destination drive
[16:31] <udonthavetoknow> does somebody know why people don't get my messages by using the facebook-plugin in pidgin? everything else is fine, i see people being online, going offline etc...
[16:31] <RaTTuS|BIG> yeah - read test I forget the wrote test param
[16:31] <RossDoughty> Hey all
[16:31] <slakcphil> RaTTuS|BIG, i will read tfm
[16:32] <leshaste> is there an easy way to install python 2.7 in lucid?
[16:32] <RaTTuS|BIG> but if ou are getting 2660  when nothign else is accessing the drive then the interface must be borked - try iot in a differnet slot
[16:32] <RaTTuS|BIG> back later
[16:32] <Sidewinder1> slakcphil, The only ways that I've backed-up is grsync (Gui front-end for rsync and would probably take longer than rsync) and tar..
[16:32] <slakcphil> that seems faster than 2.0 though
[16:32] <slakcphil> 450mbps = 2.0?
[16:34] <hroi> dpkg -l  claims that I have libhdf4-dev installed
[16:34] <hroi> but I cant find it under /usr/lib,   and I have run find on /usr+
[16:35] <llutz> hroi: dpkg -L libhdf4-dev
[16:35] <leshaste> https://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/calibre-lucid maybe?
[16:36] <hroi> llutz: thanks, oddly, it is called libdf on my machine
[16:36] <hroi> llutz: libdf.so
[16:36] <crazytra> slakcphil, are you running any kind of compression with rsync?
[16:36] <codazoda> My machine is locking up on boot.  I noticed that if I add "nomodeset" to the grub options it boots fine.  What does this mean and how can I do it permanently?
[16:36] <slakcphil> crazytra, yes the -z switch
[16:36] <slakcphil> does that slow it down? it seems like it makes less to send and therefore faster
[16:36] <crazytra> try it without, and see if its any better.  sometimes the compression can be the bottleneck
[16:37] <slakcphil> hhmmm
[16:37] <morri> hi guys- any possibility on making windows mobile photos show ? Wanted to download photos from my partners mobile who unfortunately has a windoes based mobile..)
[16:37] <crazytra> well the cpu has t process it, and some files are already compressed--like the vmdk file may be
[16:37] <slakcphil> yeah just did anothter hdparm and the timing cached reads are 4648 MB in 2 seconds
[16:37] <slakcphil> timing buffered 408 MB in 3.01 seconds
[16:38] <slakcphil> what's the timing buffered
[16:38] <batlock> so I got this FUJI camera, ID 04cb:0246 Fuji Photo Film Co., Ltd   won't automount anymore, usually automounts to 'usb-ptp//'
[16:38] <batlock> need help
[16:39] <batlock> i went to take photos off of it yesterday and it worked the first time, then i unplugged it, took more photos, then went to take more off and .... wouldn't automount ... wouldn't mount period
[16:40] <brianherman> use a usb card reader batlock?
[16:40] <brianherman> it will be faster
[16:40] <slakcphil> batlock I am going to say look into udev (but i have never mounted a camera) do you see it in `fdisk -l`?
[16:40] <RaTTuS|BIG> batlock what does syslog have to say
[16:40] <batlock> no it's not in fdisk -l because it's not a 'local resource'
[16:40] <slakcphil> or lsusb?
[16:40] <batlock> lsusb shows ID 04cb:0246 Fuji Photo Film Co., Ltd
[16:41] <slakcphil> what about mount?
[16:41] <batlock> if it's not mounted...
[16:41] <overdub> batlock: maybe use ghoto2 for the ptp protocol?
[16:41] <batlock> yes it uses gphoto2
[16:41] <slakcphil> I don't know if yous should put something like that in fstab...
[16:41] <san__> hi
[16:42] <batlock> mmm also i'm using kde atm
[16:42] <batlock> well *kubuntu
[16:42] <llutz> batlock: digikam should work with ptp-devices too
[16:42] <batlock> you guys don't get it
[16:43] <batlock> normally i plug it in and it pops up on the desktop (dolphin opens to the root of the camera)
[16:43] <overdub> gphotofs might help
[16:43] <morri> anybody got an idea how to make windows phone media visible on lubuntu?
[16:43] <batlock> something happened yesterday
[16:43] <batlock> and now it won't do that
[16:43] <deej1976> !usb
[16:43] <deej1976> !resub
[16:43] <batlock> this is not a usb flash drive
[16:43] <slakcphil> what groups is your user in
[16:43] <llutz> batlock: check logs for events when you plugin the device
[16:44] <overdub> batlock: maybe it didn't unmount properly and thinks the camera is still mounted?
[16:44] <slakcphil> batlock: are you using the same user account?
[16:44] <deej1976> batlock: df -lk
[16:44] <MrCleanWithHair> Anyone have a moment to look at an awk script and see what the issue is?
[16:44] <batlock> df -lk does not show it
[16:44] <batlock> because it's not mounted
[16:45] <batlock> if it were mounted i could find it
[16:45] <batlock> second of all, it doesn't mount
[16:45] <batlock> it gphotos
[16:45] <batlock> when it works right that is
[16:45] <bbbbbbbb> i cant connect to wireless, i see "wireless is disabled by hardware switch". the only hw switch i know is a fn-hotkey that shows no reaction
[16:45] <crassus> I have this issue where whenever I try to view files in my http://localhost I get Forbidden error from apache. I'm thinking this is because of permissions problem in /var/www or something, but for the life of me I can't figure it out
[16:45] <batlock> also it says it's not a 'local resource'  << this is when it's WORKING
[16:45] <batlock> it's not a traditional USB and it sure as hell isn't a 'usb flash disk'
[16:46] <crassus> It's also for other apps not even in /var/www that use a port or whatever to serve files off of http://localhost
[16:46] <overdub> bbbbbbbb: are you on a Thinkpad?
[16:46] <newerthhero> hi how do i make ubuntu not ask me a password everytime i log in?
[16:46] <bbbbbbbb> overdub: no, a HP
[16:46] <crassus> Does anyone have a clue what exactly is preventing me from viewing localhost files? Is it an issue with /etc/hosts possibly?
[16:47] <overdub> bbbbbbbb: my thinkpad has a physical switch for on/off hardward wireless, don't know about HP
[16:47] <bbbbbbbb> overdub: i only have a fn+f12 hetkey, the led indicates its off. cant figure out how to switch it on
[16:47] <overdub> bbbbbbbb: might be disabled in BIOS?
[16:48] <llutz> crassus: /var/www/* has to readable by www-data, check your permissions
[16:48] <bbbbbbbb> *hotkey
[16:48] <crassus> llutz: anyway to view what permissions www-data has on /var/www/* ?
[16:48] <bbbbbbbb> overdub: don't think so, it worked in windows
[16:48] <crassus> is www-data user group or user btw?
[16:48] <llutz> crassus: ls -ld /var/www
[16:48] <batlock> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761801/  << when i plug it in
[16:49] <crazytra> bbbbbbbb, what model hp
[16:50] <bbbbbbbb> crazytra: HP pavilion g6-1032eg
[16:50] <NET||abuse> hi folks, i'm in a ind with a remote developer, so i was going to spin up an svn server, but he's got some weird circumstance where he can't upgrade from svn 1.5, due to some kind of insanity in his office
[16:50] <crassus> drwxr-xr-x 5 vercingetorix vercingetorix 4096 2011-11-07 22:27 /var/www
[16:50] <NET||abuse> not something i can fix for them.
[16:50] <crassus> those are the permissions llutz ... not seeing www-data there, does that mean it's missing?
[16:50] <NET||abuse> how can i get ubuntu server 11.10 to run on subversion 1.5?
[16:50] <crassus> aka/has no permissions?
[16:50] <llutz> !permissions | crassus
[16:50] <slakcphil> i know one thing, i like using linux for the same reason I like driving an old vw golf :)
[16:51] <slakcphil> fun to break, fun to fix
[16:51] <slakcphil> nicely engineered
[16:51] <crazytra> bbbbbbbb, itsounds silly, but some of the HPs have a wifi hotkey on the wifi led itself.  Theere is a capacitive button there....shot it in the dark lol
[16:51] <llutz> slakcphil: if my OS would cost me as much money as my golf3 does, i'd be win-user
[16:52] <RGUYASD> hail !!!!
[16:52] <bbbbbbbb> crazytra: nope, mine definitely doesn't. the LED is in the f12 key ^^
[16:52] <crassus> generally, in /var/www you want read and write for everyone right llutz ?
[16:52] <llutz> crassus: no, www-data
[16:53] <overdub> bbbbbbbb: did it work before and suddenly not?
[16:53] <llutz> crassus: /var/www/* has to _readable_ by www-data, it shouldn't be able to write there if it doesn't really need
[16:53] <bbbbbbbb> overdub: i haven't used it in quite some time and not at all on ubuntu. it did work a while ago on win7
[16:53] <batlock> So i have to now install more packages to fix something that was working yesterday?
[16:53] <llutz> has to be*
[16:53] <batlock> this blows
[16:53] <slakcphil> llutz, :)
[16:54] <bil21al> helo how to install adobe flash player for chromium  through terminal any suggession ?
[16:54] <overdub> bbbbbbbb: might be that there is no support yet for HP fn key, just a guess
[16:54] <bbbbbbbb> overdub: how would i enable it then?
[16:54] <deej1976> batlock: Have you reboot your computer/laptop since yesterday?
[16:54] <overdub> bbbbbbbb: i had this problem with debian, couldn't adjust screen brightness, was very annoying
[16:55] <batlock> deej1976, yes, like eight times cause this shit keeps breaking
[16:55] <batlock> i can't resize windows without it freezing
[16:55] <batlock> and several other problems
[16:55] <bbbbbbbb> overdub: the other hotkeys work fine
[16:55] <batlock> but THIS SHOULD JUST WORK
[16:55] <overdub> bbbbbbbb: probably not that then, i'm out of suggestions, good luck
[16:55] <batlock> there we go
[16:55] <deej1976> batlock: Ok, I hadn't seen unreply since you should the pastebin
[16:55] <batlock> i install digikam and it fuggin works
[16:55] <leshaste> can anyone tell me why http://pastebin.com/sRyabMgJ gives me IndexError: pop from empty list
[16:56] <bbbbbbbb> overdub: i don't know, i remember that at the beginning the wifi was always on. i might have switched it off, but i don't rememeber where -.- any idea? ^^
[16:56] <batlock> deej1976, tis okay
[16:56] <batlock> it works now i think
[16:56] <batlock> ok dolphin how do i make it look like nautilus
[16:56] <batlock> ?
[16:56] <batlock> like the folderlist on the left doesn't have anything useful
[16:56] <overdub> bbbbbbbb: on my thinkpad, if I boot up with the wifi switch off, turning it on after Ubuntu is running doesn't activate it
[16:56] <leshaste> me apologises..wrong channel
[16:57] <MadsRC> Does anyone know if there is some kind of software in the official repositories that can create a multisystem USB pendrive?
[16:57] <batlock> maybe it's just the KDE bs
[16:57] <batlock> fuggin it all up
[16:57] <dr_willis> MadsRC:  depends on what you need to do. You can set up grub2 to boot differnt ISO files from a flash.
[16:57] <dr_willis> MadsRC:  the pendrivelinux site also may have tools or guides.
[16:58] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ <- may help
[16:58] <bbbbbbbb> i believe i switched it off in ubuntu, so it must be able to be enabled here. somewhere.
[16:59] <MadsRC> Rattus, already found that. Just don't like installing from outside the repositories
[16:59] <raven> how to share main display by tightvncserver (:0) in 11.10
[16:59] <overdub> bbbbbbbb: maybe it was off during boot up, and the driver for your wifi didn't get loaded, I'd try rebooting with the wifi on
[17:00] <crassus> what group should own /var/www llutz
[17:00] <northwest> Hi everyone i'm new and i have a question....what does it mean when you have a "kernel panic"?
[17:00] <crassus> I have it currently set to www-data
[17:00] <bbbbbbbb> overdub: okay, i'll try that later
[17:00] <deej1976> crassus: www-data
[17:00] <llutz> crassus: should be fine
[17:00] <crassus> but permissions 777 is not alright I bet...apache is still showing forbidden 403 error, is this due to a problem with apache's config maybe?
[17:00] <dr_willis> raven use vino, or x11vnc
[17:01] <raven> dr_willis, how to activate vino in 11.10
[17:01] <dr_willis> !vino
[17:01] <deej1976> crassus: sudo apache2ctrl configtest
[17:01] <weqw> problem, Ubuntu 10.04 screen goes black while using the machine and flashes, restarting GDM does NOT help have to reboot entire machine
[17:01] <weqw> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[17:02] <JerryNJ> i need some help w rdesktop with ubuntu lucid - I get a black mouse pointer when i connect to a W2008 R2 server
[17:02] <JerryNJ> I need some advice or suggestions please
[17:02] <VGA|Toast> try adjusting color depth?
[17:03] <crassus> deej1976: results: http://pastebin.com/PZnak0J0
[17:03] <crassus> is it a problem if apache can't resolve domain name like that?
[17:03] <VGA|Toast> hey I dont use rdesktop, try "Terminal Server Client" instead you might like it better
[17:03] <crassus> it's just a local box with no domain, but shouldn't it resolve to localhost...
[17:04] <VGA|Toast> check /etc/resolv.conf
[17:04] <VGA|Toast> check /etc/resolv.conf 127.0.0.1 localhost should be the first line
[17:04] <VGA|Toast> "127.0.0.1 localhost"
[17:04] <raven> dr_willis, how to activate vino in 11.10
[17:05] <dr_willis> raven:  its built in as far as i know.
[17:05] <slakcphil> does anyone know if junipers nework connect 6.5.0 would work in linux? I know some of their previous versions worked with ubuntu...
[17:05] <dr_willis> raven:  its what gnomes 'share this desktop...' uses.  i never use that feature. I never want to share the current desktop
[17:05] <slakcphil> it's my main reason for having a copy of windows atm
[17:06] <crassus> ah, and that was missing actually VGA|Toast, I added it in and am restarting apache
[17:06] <raven> dr_willis, obviously it is not by any known name or hint in the prefs/configs menu
[17:06] <slakcphil> it has the hostchecker.exe to I am skepticle if wine would manage
[17:06] <VGA|Toast> anyone know why the display on 10.04 is flashing randomly with intel chipsets?
[17:06] <VGA|Toast> black screen of death
[17:07] <JerryNJ> i think there is an issue with rdesktop and W2008r2 with the black pointer
[17:07] <JerryNJ> i just need a workaround
[17:07] <VGA|Toast> yes
[17:07] <VGA|Toast> use Terminal Services CLient instead
[17:08] <crassus> well, now I have localhost in the /etc/resolv.conf file, but I'm still forbidden...my permissions on /var/www: drwxrwxrwx 5 www-data www-data 4096 2011-12-06 11:05 .
[17:08] <VGA|Toast> use Terminal Services Client instead
[17:08] <llutz> VGA|Toast: /etc/resolv.conf  defines dns-nameservers not hosts.
[17:08] <slakcphil> raven, I use tightvncserver in 10.10 server with `tightvncserver  -nolisten tcp :1` and it works good
[17:08] <llutz> crassus: /etc/hosts has to contain at least: 127.0.0.1 localhost
[17:09] <crassus> yeah I made sure about that llutz
[17:09] <VGA|Toast> yeah realvnc /tightvnc, whatever vnc will work
[17:09] <crassus> I've got ::1 pointing to localhost for ipv6 to be safe too :3
[17:10] <JerryNJ> how do you use the Terminal Services Client?
[17:10] <VGA|Toast> hmm I think thats only on Debian
[17:10] <crassus> if I uninstall and reinstall apache, will the configs stay the same?
[17:10] <dr_willis> !info x11vn
[17:10] <crassus> I'm thinking of wiping it all away and starting fresh
[17:10] <dr_willis> !info x11vnc
[17:11] <slakcphil> raven, it starts up at gnome login screen on :0 and I haven't been able to access it directly, i instead get a session on :1 that seems just like a terminal server session, I want to know how to connect to the :0 display the same way
[17:11] <VGA|Toast> I think the terminal services client I use is on Debian and not Ubuntu repos
[17:11] <slakcphil> VGA|Toast^^
[17:11] <slakcphil> for the question
[17:12] <HQRaja> Is there a way to enable hotspot mode from the connections menu in the top bar directly, without having to go all the way into Networks? Either from the top bar directly, or with some shortcut that I can perhaps add to the left launcher bar, or some short command alias I could type in the terminal?
[17:14] <dr_willis> hotspot mode = ad hoc network?
[17:14] <HQRaja> dr_willis: Nope not ad-hoc. I'm talking about the built-in option that lets us use our computer as a Wi-Fi hotspot
[17:15] <udonthavetoknow> does somebody know why my friends don't get a message when i'm using pidgin/the pidgin facebook-plugin? i see them going on and offline and i'm able to recieve messages, but not to send them successfully.
[17:15] <HQRaja> It's for those of us who want to share their Ubuntu PC's internet connection (wired or as in my case, USB dongle) with their other devices
[17:16] <dr_willis> udonthavetoknow:  just a guess.. but i would bet its facebook changeing their api, or other changes that broke the feature.
[17:16] <dr_willis> HQRaja:  sounds like 'internet connection shareing' to me. :)
[17:16] <dr_willis> !ics
[17:16] <HQRaja> dr_willis: Yeah it is basically that.
[17:17] <ks07> Can anyone recommend the easiest to use command line partition editor/manager? The closer to gparted the better :P
[17:17] <dr_willis> fdisk is very easy to use.. if you know what you want. :)
[17:17] <slakcphil> udonthavetoknow, you may be able to run it froma tterminal and see if you can get some messages dumped to stdout while you are sending
[17:17] <udonthavetoknow> dr_willis: yeah i've also already thought of that... unfortunaley i don't know anbody else who is using the plugin/pidgin at all...
[17:17] <dr_willis> ks07:  there is 'parted'   gparted is a gui to parted
[17:17] <llutz> ks07: parted
[17:17] <JerryNJ> tsclient has the same black pointer
[17:18] <dr_willis> udonthavetoknow:  check the pidgon homepage/forums or ubuntu forums or askubuntu.com
[17:18] <ks07> parted it is, ty
[17:18] <HQRaja> dr_willis: I know how to do it...in fact it's working perfectly fine. I'm just looking for a way to be able to turn it on and off more easily. Right now, I have to go to System Settings > Network > Wireless and click 'Use as Hotspot' to enable it.
[17:18] <dr_willis> fdisk i thinkis getting a little out of date.
[17:18] <udonthavetoknow> dr_willis: i will, thanks
[17:18] <HQRaja> I'm looking for a way to enable it without all this navigation...using some shortcut I could add to the launcher preferably, or a command I could enter in the terminal or in GNOME Do
[17:18] <llutz> dr_willis: time for a change. fdisk -> parted, ifconfig -> ip etc.pp
[17:19] <dr_willis> HQRaja:  no idea.  most likely its running some script or set of commands.. but i dont use the feature any more.
[17:19] <dr_willis> llutz:  what next will they add a N to umount? :)
[17:19] <HQRaja> dr_willis: Well not a problem :)
[17:20] <llutz> dr_willis: Don't you dare!
[17:20] <HQRaja> So, anyone else?
[17:20] <HQRaja> I need to use this feature a lot (basically every time I turn on my computer, because I share its internet connection with my Android phone using this method) and having to turn it on by all this navigation is a hassle
[17:20] <dr_willis> had someone here just the otehr day using 'unmount /media/foo' :)
[17:21] <HQRaja> Coming from Windows, I had a batch file in my startup folder, which executed the necessary commands on system startup to accomplish this automatically, or I could just run that batch file directly to do this
[17:21] <llutz> dr_willis: unix logic, mount to mount, umount to unmount
[17:21] <HQRaja> All it took was a double-click
, /usr/bin/pidgin -d
[17:21] <dr_willis> HQRaja:  im suprised it dosent stay one once you enable it.
[17:21] <VGA|Toast> AP Mode = Master Mode
[17:21] <VGA|Toast> MASTER MODE
[17:21] <HQRaja> dr_willis: It does stay on once I have enabled it...just not after reboot.
[17:22] <dr_willis> HQRaja:  check that !ics guide. it may give a clue.  or check askubuntu  would be my advice.
 that may help you if you can catch it or output it to a file and search for the error
[17:22] <dr_willis> HQRaja:  im suprised it dosent stay on after a reboot.
[17:22] <HQRaja> dr_willis: Alright, let me try that
[17:22] <slakcphil> /usr/bin/pidgin -d > fileforouput
[17:22] <HQRaja> dr_willis: Nah after reboot, it doesn't stay on on pretty much any operating system (doesn't on Android or Windows 7 for sure)
[17:22] <udonthavetoknow> slakcphil: oh thanks buddy, i'll do that
[17:23] <NET||abuse> hi folks, i need to install a server with subversion 1.5, how do i add a source that can give me that version?
[17:23] <batlock> so in 11.04 completely removing unity and replacing it with gnome is how hard?
[17:23] <batlock> cause 'ubuntu classic' isn't different than 'ubuntu'
[17:23] <batlock> here
[17:24] <HQRaja> batlock: No idea about 11.04 but it seemed quite easy on 11.10
[17:24] <batlock> cool
[17:24] <llutz> btw, would a 11.10 installed on a BIOS-system still boot on a new board with UEFI? does grub2 have uefi-support?
[17:24] <batlock> wonder why they even put it on there
[17:24] <batlock> considering how many people hated it in 11.04 they kept it why?
[17:24] <batlock> it's a retarded ui, i like being able to customize my panel
[17:24] <HQRaja> Well, it was a start in 11.04...it will only evolve further
[17:25] <batlock> as does most of the populus i figure
[17:25] <HQRaja> BTW it's better than GNOME Shell, in my opinion.
[17:25] <HQRaja> GNOME Shell doesn't even give you a panel on desktop
[17:25] <mneptok> llutz: yes, UEFI works. but you'll have to prep the disk for UEFI use even using it on a BIOS system
[17:25] <batlock> which is why you use gnome-panel
[17:26] <HQRaja> I've set my panel to auto-hide in Unity and installed Docky as well as GNOME Do, and I'm loving the setup, with Unity
[17:26] <llutz> mneptok: any links/howtos off hand?
[17:26] <batlock> yea
[17:26] <batlock> i like being able to compiz cube
[17:26] <HQRaja> Oh you can enable the cube too...just use that compiz customization thingy
[17:27] <HQRaja> (dont recall the name..new to ubuntu)
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> i very soon got tired of the cube
[17:27] <batlock> tried
[17:27] <batlock> won't work with unity
[17:27]  * dr_willis perfers that the cube stays frogotten..
[17:27] <batlock> at least not here
[17:27] <HQRaja> I've never used the cube BTW
[17:27] <batlock> i lose my titlebars
[17:27] <dr_willis> theres some guides on ombubuntu or webupd8 on setting up the cube in unity
[17:27] <dr_willis> batlock:  thats compiz crashing...
[17:27] <HQRaja> batlock: If you are on 11.04, there will be issues that wont be there in 11.10. 11.04 had the earlier version of unity that wasn't too mature
[17:28] <dr_willis> The Cube is the kind of thingk you  show off to your windows friends.. then disable it when they leave....
[17:28] <batlock> yea, i've had this issue with all of 11
[17:28] <batlock> 11.04 and .10
[17:28] <mneptok> llutz: just make sure to create a 100MB (or so) FAT32 partition and manually mount it to /boot/efi when installing on a BIOS/legacy system. if you move to UEFI, install grub2-efi and run grub-install and update-grub afterwards.
[17:28] <HQRaja> Heck, installing Gnome Shell itself was a hassle in 11.04
[17:28] <batlock> so it's not just a .04 issue
[17:28] <dr_willis> its a 'unity and the cube dont play well together' issue. :)
[17:29] <llutz> mneptok: thanks, seems easy
[17:29] <HQRaja> BTW might I suggest Mint, if you're looking for ubuntu sans unity without compromise on everything else offered by ubuntu?
[17:29] <mneptok> llutz: 'tis
[17:29] <HQRaja> I personally don't like GNOME Shell at all for one primary reason (amongst a few secondary ones) : INSANE amount of screen real estate wasted in every window's top region
[17:30] <HQRaja> Just plain wasted, by deciding not to integrate the menu bar into the top bar, and leaving the top bar kinda empty with just the current app's title...and yet the title appears in every window's top region too!
[17:30] <dr_willis> Global menu can be added to gnome-shell
[17:30] <HQRaja> That was just a retarded decision by those who designed Gnome Shell
[17:31] <mneptok> let's not get on "_____ UI sucks because ______" offtopicness, shall we?
[17:31] <HQRaja> dr_willis: Oh OK...still, most users prefer a good UI out of the box
[17:31] <fishcooker> myrtii, are u there...how to make 11.10 tone xfce like yours?
[17:31] <magpii> can someone tell me the best ubuntu software to use for radio music braodcasting please?
[17:31] <HQRaja> mneptok: Heh alright
[17:31] <dr_willis> !info icecast
[17:31] <BluesKaj> !broadcast
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> magpii  i use radiotray
[17:31] <hwilde> !shoutcast
[17:31] <HQRaja> !info shoutcast
[17:32] <HQRaja> !info broadcast
[17:32] <hwilde> meh.
[17:32] <Myrtti> fishcooker: 11.10 tone xfce?! what do you mean
[17:32] <dr_willis> magpii:  you mean to stream music to others?
[17:32] <fishcooker> myrtii seems dead :p anyone go with xfce how to get xfce substitute the unity things?
[17:33] <dr_willis> fishcooker:  thats a little.. vague..
[17:33] <magpii> to be able to stream my music online
[17:33] <mneptok> magpii: stream to .... ?
[17:33] <magpii> my website
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> magpii  repeat, radiotray, a small applet
[17:33] <dr_willis> magpii:   use some of the shoutcast streaming apps perhaps.  depends onw hat the clients are going to be using.
[17:33] <mneptok> magpii: you need to be much more specific.
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> ah, to a website
[17:33] <hwilde> the answer, is, shoutcast.
[17:34] <batlock> can someone explain this?
[17:34] <batlock> http://pastebin.com/760MpQ52
[17:34] <magpii> on windows i had some software that streamed my music playlist through a free online server and then a player on my website for people to tune into, if that makes any more sense
[17:35] <HQRaja> OK so I've searched on askubuntu and looked at the ics page but still can't find it...though I'm sure there's *got* to be a way to do it.
[17:35] <HQRaja> :(
[17:35] <evgen24> опа
[17:35] <seanbright> is this the forum for gtk questions?  i'm writing a test app and am having some strangeness with oneiric
[17:35] <evgen24> че там дрочите?
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> !ru| evgen24
[17:36] <fishcooker> why dr_willis
[17:36] <HQRaja> Has anyone else ever thought of it? Enabling the "Use as Hotspot" feature in System Settings > Networks > Wireless, using some shortcut?
[17:36] <pikaciu> sorry for the silly question... a LAMP server can be used only on the local network ?
[17:36] <fishcooker> i want to remove unity things with xfce
[17:37] <riffautae> seanbright: if you think the gtk in ubuntu is messed up yes, other wise #programming or something might be better
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> !nounity| fishcooker
[17:37] <fishcooker> how to make it true
[17:37] <mneptok> fishcooker: XFCE does not use Unity. neither does Xubuntu.
[17:37] <HQRaja> fishcooker: If you get xubuntu, you don't get unity at all...and you get xfce
[17:37] <riffautae> pikaciu: you can use the LAMP software stack to serve public web pages if thats what you are asking
[17:37] <batlock> can someone explain why when i run gnome-wm --replace it tells me to use the --replace option?
[17:37] <pikaciu> tx
[17:37] <fishcooker> i don't like ubuntu "apple like" style
[17:37] <seanbright> riffautae: i am using GtkCssProvider to try and change the appearance of a widget with the code at http://kalmbach.wordpress.com/2011/03/12/gtk-3-0-client-side-theme/
[17:38] <seanbright> riffautae: oh, i may have misinterprted what you said
[17:38] <batlock> !wm
[17:38] <batlock> oh that's right
[17:39] <batlock> oh that's right
[17:39] <batlock> !wm
[17:39] <XDS2010> how can i install ubuntu to a second blank ext2 partition from a livecd ?
[17:39] <hsmod>  anyone know how i can load megaraid_sas driver when i pxe boot a livecd? (maverick or natty)
[17:39] <XDS2010> i searched around and couldn't find anything definitive
[17:39] <hsmod> or just in general once i boot up a livecd, how do i get megaraid drivers to load
[17:39] <Myrtti> !xubuntu | fishcooker
[17:39] <batlock> !gnome
[17:39] <dubbe> !linuxmint
[17:39] <fishcooker> !classic
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> !mint| dubbe
[17:40] <XDS2010> how can i install ubuntu to a second blank ext2 partition from a livecd ?
[17:41] <batlock> yea ubottu, too bad clicking 'ubuntu classic' still gives me unity
[17:41] <dubbe> ty MokeyDust
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> batlock  you can install a 'fallback' package from synaptic
[17:41] <XDS2010> I have windows xp on the first NTFS partition and dont mind formating the second ext partition to ntfs but i want to be able to dual boot, and set all this up from a liveCD
[17:42] <batlock> I just want non unity, 3d and compiz
[17:42] <dubbe> batlock: install mate?
[17:42] <XDS2010> batlock:  agreed unuty sucks
[17:42] <overdub> batlock: i did apt-get install kde-full and never looked back, your mileage may vary
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> !rant
[17:43] <batlock> overdub, yea, i did that too.
[17:43] <hylian> for some reason every time i boot xfce's audio is muted.
[17:43] <XDS2010> all in favor of ditching unity say I
[17:43] <batlock> but i've looked back when i found dolphin lacking in user-friendliness
[17:43] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[17:43] <XDS2010> I
[17:43] <hylian> XDS2010, I (switched to xfce)
[17:43] <batlock> :I  i'm asking for ubuntu related support, as well as discussing ubuntu related issues
[17:43] <XDS2010> +1
[17:44] <batlock> if that's off topic
[17:44] <batlock> then wtf?
[17:45] <Soneek> hey guys, i am kinda new to irc, can u tell me where i can talk to ppl not about ubuntu? hate new distro btw :)
[17:45] <batlock> lol
[17:45] <Pici> batlock: This channel is for support only. If you want to have a duscussion, use #ubuntu-offtopi
[17:45] <Pici> batlock: This channel is for support only. If you want to have a duscussion, use #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:45] <Myrtti> please keep the discussion to support issues only, the rest can be talked in #ubuntu-offtopic. This is the biggest channel in freenode and keeping this channel to support only makes giving and receiving help easier for those who are not so well versed in IRC.
[17:45] <batlock> so asking for help is now forbidden in here?
[17:45] <batlock> cause that's what i'm doing
[17:45] <batlock> asking for ubuntu help
[17:45] <batlock> specifically, how do i remove unity completely and go to gnome
[17:46] <hylian> Soneek, actually, there are tonnes of places. ##club-ubuntu is a any topic chat room, with people who use ubuntu, not a tech room like this. just a suggestion
[17:46] <batlock> but i get hit with !offtopic
[17:46] <Pici> batlock: "discussing ubuntu related issues" would be discussion, not asking for ubuntu related support. You just said that.
[17:46] <Pici> batlock: But as you can see, this channel is very busy, so we try to keep all discussion in another channel so that people can get help here without all sorts of other noise.
[17:46]  * batlock wasn't aware that describing the issues i have so they can be remedied was 'discussion that's off topic chat'
[17:47] <dr_willis> !brainstorm
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> batlock  kindly join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to discuss
[17:47] <batlock> I'M ASKING FOR HELP
[17:48] <batlock> I'M NOT DISCUSSING
[17:48]  * dr_willis missed the actual support question
[17:48] <hylian> batlock, didn't catch your question, what was it again?
[17:48] <batlock> geez you guys are worse with your 'take it to #offtopic' than anyone else is with their banter
[17:48] <i_is_broke> he wants no unity. just gnome
[17:48] <batlock> hylian, trying to completely remove unity
[17:48] <batlock> not 'switch sessions'
[17:49] <dr_willis> what do you want to use instead?
[17:49] <hylian> batlock, my suggestion would be to first install gnome, or whatever else you would like, have you done that?
[17:49] <fishcooker> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, batlock
[17:49] <Pici> fishcooker: That is not helpful.
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> !nounity| batlock (repeated)
[17:49] <batlock> the following packages will be installed
[17:49] <batlock> unity
[17:49] <batlock>   unity-asset-pool unity-common unity-place-applications unity-place-files
[17:49] <batlock> why
[17:49] <fishcooker> !nounity|batlock
[17:49] <FloodBot1> batlock: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:49] <batlock> NO
[17:50] <Pici> fishcooker: Please stop. You are not being helpful.
[17:50] <batlock> E: Package 'gnome-shell' has no installation candidate
[17:50] <dr_willis> batlock:  so what do you want to use instead of unity? thats the core bit of info we need.
[17:50] <batlock> gnome
[17:50] <Pici> batlock: What release of Ubuntu are you using?
[17:50] <batlock> 11.04
[17:50] <batlock> Linux mikah-laptop 2.6.38-12-generic-pae #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 28 16:11:32 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[17:50] <Myrtti> batlock: installing gnome-shell for that is asking for trouble :-/
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> batlock  maybe you should consider a fresh install, it may be easier
[17:51] <dr_willis> 11.10 has gnome shell in the repositories.. its not availiable in 11.04 without breakage.  last i looked 11.04 had the old gnome 2 desktop in it.
[17:51] <batlock> a fresh install of unity
[17:51] <batlock> just what i don't want
[17:51] <Pici> batlock: Did the instruction for !classic not help?
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> batlock  or a different ubuntu fork
[17:51] <batlock> again, ubuntu classic is the same as ubuntu
[17:51] <dubbe> batlock: why not another distribution? linux-mint is kinda gnome but with gnome-shell
[17:51] <batlock> both unity
[17:51] <batlock> because i don't want to use a different distro
[17:52] <dr_willis> last i looked on 11.04 the classic was not unity.
[17:52] <batlock> i like(d) ubuntu
[17:52] <batlock> last i logged in
[17:52] <batlock> it was
[17:52] <dr_willis> sounds to me like it started unity instead.
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> batlock  xubuntu is gnome-like
[17:52] <batlock> no
[17:52] <Pici> MonkeyDust: He wants to use gnome 2.
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> ah
[17:53] <batlock> well, i haven't really seen gnome3
[17:53] <batlock> what's that like
[17:53] <mneptok> GNOME 2 is no longer a viable long-term option on any distro.
[17:53] <KrisDouglas> I'll be honest, if you wish to use gnome 2, have a look at Linux Mint.
[17:53] <dubbe> then i suggest again, install mate (it is a fork of gnome2 and mantained)
[17:53] <KrisDouglas> gnome 3 is... different.
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> MATE in Linux Mint looks like gnome 2
[17:53] <batlock> how different
[17:53] <iceroot> KrisDouglas: linux mint does not have gnome2
[17:53] <iceroot> KrisDouglas: every distro will remove gnome2
[17:53] <hylian> batlock, i personally suggest installing the xubuntu packages. xfce 4 looks and acts a lot like gnome 2.
[17:53] <pdq> batlock, classic in 11.04 doesn't use unity, no unity dash and no unity launcher and no unity top panel uses gnome 2 panel
[17:53] <overdub> batlock: it's designed for a one track mind
[17:53] <dubbe> iceroot: linux mint has mate installed as default
[17:54] <iceroot> dubbe: mate is not gnome2
[17:54] <Pici> UGh
[17:54] <batlock> but on MY MACHINE classic DOES have the unity panel
[17:54] <iceroot> dubbe: mate will not get security updates so mate is a bad option
[17:54]  * sipior goes for popcorn
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> iceroot  correct, but it looks like gnome2
[17:54] <dubbe> iceroot: gnome2 won't get any updates at all :)
[17:54] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: looks like != is
[17:54] <KrisDouglas> iceroot, that's not the point. It just works like Gnome 2
[17:54] <iceroot> dubbe: correct
[17:54] <Pici> batlock: I'm trying to find the config file that stores what starts up from GDM, one moment.
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> iceroot  i agree
[17:54] <LjL> ok can we move this to #ubuntu-offtopic now?
[17:54] <batlock> i don't want xfce, i don't want linux mint, i just want ubuntu 11.xx that looks like 10.xx
[17:54] <iceroot> KrisDouglas: then use ubuntu 11.04 which have gnome2 if you dont want security-updates in the next years
[17:55] <Myrtti> ok, most of you aren't actually helpful at all
[17:55] <iceroot> batlock: there is no gnome2 anymore
[17:55] <sipior> batlock: i'm afraid you're out of luck.
[17:55] <mneptok> batlock: you don't always get what you want.
[17:55] <sipior> mneptok: but if you try sometimes...
[17:55] <batlock> well with ubuntu that's apparent
[17:55] <Resistance> batlock:  with any OS that's the case.
[17:55] <batlock> i just can't figure out why when i run gnome-wm --replace i get a message that tells me to use the --replace option
[17:56] <Resistance> batlock:  you'll run into that wwherever yo ugo
[17:56] <mneptok> sipior: can i be Keith? i like Brian Jones' hair, but i'm too good a swimmer.
[17:56] <KrisDouglas> iceroot, I think you missed my point.
[17:56] <pdq> he is using 11.04 so classic gnome2 should be there
[17:56] <iceroot> KrisDouglas: the point is, gnome2 is no longer supported from the gnome-project so you dont get security updates
[17:56] <Myrtti> guise, please take the chitchat to #ubuntu-offtopic - the problem is being solved without this metadiscussion over what is the future of Gnome
[17:56] <dr_willis> pdq:  sounds like his clasic is also launching unity.
[17:57] <batlock> OK, if gnome3 will actually display all the system tray icons i open, and allow me to customize the top bar panel, i'll gladly use that
[17:57] <pdq> right and thats a support question i think if thats the issue
[17:57] <KrisDouglas> iceroot, i never said use gnome 2???
[17:57] <dubbe> batlock: nope
[17:57] <batlock> dr_willis, yea it is because i've fiddled with this machine sooo much
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> batlock  great, but that's for #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:57] <batlock> MonkeyDust, what is
[17:58] <mneptok> batlock: you could try creating a new user, and see if the issue persists with a new account.
[17:58] <overdub> batlock: ubuntu configuration apparently
[17:58] <batlock> overdub, iknow right?
[17:59] <Braber01> is there a utility/command to convert Linux text documents into Windows Text documents I Can't remember the name of that command
[17:59] <dr_willis> batlock:  as a test.. make a new user. see if the classic desktop is unity, or the old one i guess...
[17:59] <LjL> Braber01: unix2dos is one
[17:59] <dr_willis> Braber01:  dozens of ways to do it. :)
[17:59] <Braber01> LjL thanks that's the one i was looking for :)
[18:01] <speedxcore> Hi I'm looking for a guide to versioning filesystems that works with ubuntu. Any ideas?
[18:02] <dr_willis> speedxcore:  any time i hear people mention specilized filesystems.. i always think to look at the 'fuse' project and its fs's
[18:02] <dr_willis> !fuse
[18:03] <speedxcore> dr_willis: I will check that out. Thank you
[18:04] <dr_willis> fuse is just a handy tool
[18:04] <batlock> well looks like i'm dist upgrading
[18:05] <batlock> ty guise
[18:05] <hatchetjack> deej1976: ppa?
[18:06] <HQRaja> Does anyone know how to enable the "Use as Hotspot" feature from desktop/launcher/command line without having to go to System Settings > Networks > Wireless?
[18:07] <hylian> for some reason every time i boot xfce's audio is muted.
[18:07] <dubbe> i am having problems with updating a vpn-connection in ubuntu 11.10 (gnome-shell), does anyone know?
[18:08] <pepee> really, wtf ubuntu. another regression: APM level gets reset to 128 after suspend/resume
[18:08] <x_> hylian, add something like amixer sset master 100 to your startup
[18:08] <pepee> this says it was fixed in Hardy... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerManagement#A8.04_.28Hardy.29
[18:09] <Pici> pepee: File a bug then.
[18:09] <hsmod> or just in general once i boot up a livecd, how do i get megaraid drivers to load
[18:09] <mneptok> HQRaja: try looking at syslog as you enable/disable ICS
[18:10] <HQRaja> mneptok: I doubt if I'd be able to figure much out of that...consider me a beginner
[18:10] <pepee> picca, nah, I'm lazy
[18:10] <Pici> pepee: Then do not complain here.
[18:10] <mneptok> HQRaja: well, i do not use the feature, so i cannot do the lifting for you.
[18:10] <HQRaja> mneptok: Not a problem :)
[18:11] <HQRaja> So, anyone else?
[18:11] <BluesKaj>  tried some git versions of apps , but cmake doesn't come with ./configure files anymore so I get "no target" errors when I run "make" . I don't have a lot of experience compiling from source, but I no longer know what to do about this problem. afaik I have all the right apps/libs installed: git, build-essential, make , cmake and mercurial. So, what am I missing or not doing correctly?
[18:11] <pepee> Pici, tell me, where are the ubuntu devs?
[18:11] <mneptok> pepee: reading bug reports on Launchpad
[18:11] <pepee> lol
[18:12] <pepee> poor of them
[18:12] <HQRaja> Well I guess I'll just periodically (like after 5-10 minutes) repeat my question and hope someone who knows the answer sees it
[18:13] <mneptok> HQRaja: 20-30 minute intervals, please
[18:13] <HQRaja> mneptok: Heh alright
[18:13] <pepee> does anyone have the same problem? APM resetting to 128 after suspend/resume
[18:13] <BluesKaj> mneptok, who set that rule ?
[18:13] <mneptok> pepee: file a bug on Launchpad and find out.
[18:13] <HQRaja> Let's make it somewhere in the middle...~15 minutes please?
[18:13] <HQRaja> :D
[18:13] <mneptok> BluesKaj: it's not a rule. it's a request.
[18:14] <BluesKaj> by you
[18:14] <mneptok> BluesKaj: very observant.
[18:14] <HQRaja> No it's fine really :)
[18:14] <BluesKaj> not by the channel ops , mneptok
[18:14] <mneptok> !repeat
[18:14] <HQRaja> Frequently repeated question would annoy many...
[18:14] <mneptok> BluesKaj: uhhh ...
[18:16] <BluesKaj> uhh for sure
[18:16] <Pici> BluesKaj: mneptok has been a channel op for as long as I can remember.
[18:16] <dr_willis> be sure to check the forums and askubuntu in btween. :)
[18:16] <mneptok> BluesKaj: feel free to discuss this with me in #ubuntu-ops if you feel my request was out of line
[18:17] <HQRaja> dr_willis: Did that...googled a lot...maybe I'm just not that good at Googling...couldn't find a solution
[18:18] <Phr3d13> What are the requirements for being a channel op?
[18:18] <XDS2010> I want ubuntu to go back to gnome by default
[18:18] <XDS2010> I don't like unity at all
[18:18] <HQRaja> XDS2010: Ubuntu is using Gnome...just not Gnome-Shell
[18:18] <Phr3d13> I wanna know if I qualify
[18:18] <auronandace> XDS2010: don't use unity then
[18:18] <Myrtti> XDS2010: you're welcome to discuss that wish in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:18] <dr_willis> Gnome2 is dead.. time to move on.
[18:19] <oCean> !canibeanop > Phr3d13
[18:19] <XDS2010> Why is gnome dead ?
[18:19] <dr_willis> Gnome-shell is developing at a nice pace  just saw this site today ---> https://extensions.gnome.org/
[18:19] <dr_willis> XDS2010:  gnome 2 is dead.. thd gnome devs decided to stop supporting it.
[18:19] <HQRaja> Yup the extensions look good
[18:19] <Myrtti> XDS2010: Gnome2 is, not Gnome.
[18:19] <dr_willis> gnome3 is the future.
[18:19] <HQRaja> Though you can install them directly from the site only if you are using Firefox
[18:20] <lousygarua> i'm running 10.10 on HP dv6000 and i'm having issues with my laptop's fan running too fast. i haven't managed to pinpoint when does that happen but maybe someone can offer me a few commands that will help me debug this.
[18:20] <XDS2010> why is gnome2 dead ?
[18:20] <HQRaja> Which sucks for me because I use Chrome
[18:20] <oCean> XDS2010: this is not the appropriate channel to discuss that
[18:20] <XDS2010> then why did you say gnome is dead ?
[18:20] <dr_willis> HQRaja:  havent really noticed.. :) im on an actual ubuntu desktop like 1 days out of the week.
[18:20] <auronandace> !gnome2 | XDS2010
[18:20] <andycc> XDS2010: let's take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic, shall we?
[18:20] <dr_willis> XDS2010:  'gnome 2' is dead.. not 'gnome'
[18:21] <HQRaja> !notunity
[18:21] <XDS2010> auronandace:  so why doesn't ubuntu pickup support for it ?
[18:21] <dr_willis> XDS2010:  why should they?
[18:21] <HQRaja> Heh
[18:21] <mneptok> dr_willis: if you cannot keep that gasoline can away from offtopic bonfires, i will take it from you. :P
[18:21] <SpiderFriend> hi i am person that really likes using linux, and I want to learn second programming language what would be best choice? I see that many things in linux are in C but people are saying its better to learn C++ or java. what do you think?
[18:21] <dr_willis> mneptok:  :)
[18:21] <andycc> SpiderFriend: what's your first programming language?
[18:21] <XDS2010> dr_willis:  why shouldn't they?
[18:21] <dr_willis> I will be glad when they remove the gnome fallback and classic stuff...
[18:22] <dr_willis> XDS2010:  lack of manpower.. and if the actual devs are not supporting it...  why should they spend the manpower on it.
[18:22] <edoceo> I just did an update on Lucid, now my Ruby app (Redmine, from apt) is failing with: Missing the Rails 2.3.11 gem
[18:22] <dr_willis> im sure the  demise of gnome2 is discussed and flamed and debated in the forums in  annoying detail.
[18:22] <andycc> XDS2010: because Ubuntu doesn't use or need the GNOME2 stack anymore, it already migrated to Unity on the Gnome 3 stack.
[18:23] <BluesKaj> mneptok, oh so you are an op ..what's the rule then , it would be good to clarify it here , f it's 30mins , then is a long time to wait for an answer.
[18:23] <pepee> HQRaja, do you want to create an AP, or an ad-hoc network connection?
[18:23] <mneptok> 11:16 < mneptok> BluesKaj: feel free to discuss this with me in #ubuntu-ops if you feel my request was out of line
[18:23] <SpiderFriend> andycc: I forgot, its python
[18:23] <RedXIII> Can anyone help me? I restarted my ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop just now, and now the keyboard isn't functioning. The hardware works fine - just ubuntu isn't accepting the keystrokes.
[18:23] <XDS2010> I think its being disengenous saying that one organization can't pickup support for a product that has been dropped for support from another just because there is a newer product out.
[18:23] <HQRaja> pepee: AP...that created when we click 'Use as Hotspot' in System Settings > Network > Wireless.
[18:23] <XDS2010> NEW != better
[18:23] <HQRaja> that gets* created
[18:24] <Pici> XDS2010: You've been asked a few times to take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, this is your last warning.
[18:24] <XDS2010> Just because a product is new from the same doesn't make it necessarily better.
[18:24] <auronandace> XDS2010: do you need help with a ubuntu issue?
[18:24] <edoceo> *facepalm
[18:24] <mneptok> BluesKaj: such a discussion will needlessly clutter a support channel. like dr_willis and XDS2010 are currently doing.
[18:24] <Myrtti> XDS2010: you're welcome to discuss this issue in further detail in #ubuntu-offtopic. Please let's keep this channel to helping people use what they've got now.
[18:24] <OerHeks> XDS2010, what if gnome2 will be no longer in development? you are on your own then.
[18:24] <Pici> OerHeks, please.
[18:24] <Myrtti> OerHeks: #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:24] <XDS2010> auronandace:  yes,  i want to do a dual boot install on a ext2 partition
[18:25] <dr_willis> XDS2010:  dual boot what os's ?
[18:25] <auronandace> XDS2010: awesome, what is going wrong?
[18:25] <XDS2010> XP and ubuntu
[18:25] <andycc> SpiderFriend: in that case, and if you want to develop for Ubuntu, my suggestion is to try Vala.
[18:25] <BluesKaj> mneptok, no ...I've been in your ops chat before and it's not necessary , I'm just looking for a straight answer. What's the rule , or ist arbitrary /
[18:25] <dr_willis> XDS2010:  so whats stopping you?  thats a normal way of using ubuntu
[18:25] <XDS2010> I want to do it from my live linux installation.
[18:25] <edoceo> Anyone else have Redmine break on the latest Lucid update?  How did you resolve the rails/passenger issue?
[18:25] <XDS2010> And not from windows
[18:26] <HQRaja> pepee: I know how to enable it actually...I just need to know how to do so from desktop/launcher/command line without having to go to System Settings > Networks > Wireless and clicking "Use as Hotspot".
[18:26] <mneptok> BluesKaj: it *is* necessary if you'd like me to answer.
[18:26] <SpiderFriend> andycc: ok I look into it
[18:26] <XDS2010> I can't find any information on how to do that.
[18:26] <dr_willis> XDS2010: a 'live' setup should have the installer icon/program on it. unless you re using some other odd 'live' install method.
[18:26] <andycc> SpiderFriend: it's a C#-like language developed by Gnome, it compiles to pure C (so it's fast), and it's the primary language used by the Elementary project.
[18:26] <auronandace> BluesKaj: he wants you to discuss that in ops because this channel is for support
[18:26] <mneptok> also because the answer is not a one-liner.
[18:27] <RedXIII> Anyone help me out here? I randomly can't type in ubuntu 11.10
[18:27] <XDS2010> dr_willis:  it doesn't it sux
[18:27] <XDS2010> sorry thats just the way it is
[18:28] <auronandace> RedXIII: you using a wireless keyboard?
[18:28] <BluesKaj> mneptok, then don't answer ...I don't see the need to be directed to the ops chat for a simple answer to a question that all ubuntu chat users should know about
[18:28] <dr_willis> XDS2010:  you should be a bit more detailed in what you mean and are doing and how you did a 'live' install.
[18:28] <RedXIII> auronandace: No, laptop built in
[18:28] <RedXIII> works fine in other environments.
[18:28] <myrmidette> d
[18:28] <dr_willis> XDS2010:  ive definatly done live installs to flash drives and installed from them.
[18:28] <myrmidette> can anyone recommend a good simple gui email client for linux? gmail support such as priority inbox would be awesome
[18:28] <pepee> HQRaja, you  want to do it the easy way? if yes, I have no idea then
[18:28] <auronandace> RedXIII: as in other desktops? (xfce, kde etc.)
[18:28] <RedXIII> auronandace: Grub screen and windows 7
[18:29] <mneptok> myrmidette: so why not use the GMail web interface?
[18:29] <FiReSTaRT> An XFCE question.. I have 2 panels on the bottom, one on top of the other. When I maximize windows, they reach the top of the lower panel but the higher bottom panel covers the lower part of the windows. Is there a way to make the windows maximize to the top of the higher bottom panel? (xubuntu and xfce #'s are dead so I'm asking here)
[18:29] <auronandace> RedXIII: oh, are you using unity?
[18:29] <RedXIII> auronandace: I guess.. Its a fresh install of ubuntu 11.10
[18:29] <myrmidette> mneptok, because I want to use a client :)
[18:29] <edoceo> FiReSTaRT: not dead, just not as active.
[18:29] <XDS2010> dr_willis:  im running a live slax install right now on /sdb i have windows installed on /sda1 and want ubuntu to be able to dual boot on demand from /sda2
[18:29] <mneptok> myrmidette: claws-mail?
[18:29] <HQRaja> pepee: Yes, I want to accomplish the same task but with a shortcut...easy way :) I just need to do it quite frequently (basically upon every restart) and having to dig into the network settings each time is a hassle :(
[18:29] <edoceo> One of your panels is set "first", likely the smaller of the two, so it's being chosen as the border
[18:30] <XDS2010> dr_willis:  /sda2 is currently formatted with ext2
[18:30] <mneptok> myrmidette: dunno if claws supports all the GMail whizbang, but it's a rock-solid client
[18:30] <RedXIII> auronandace: I had been using it fine for the past 2 days. Then my restart this morning caused the keyboard not to function. (It was functioning prior to restart)
[18:30] <auronandace> RedXIII: i'd guess its a compiz issue, if you log out and log back in but pick no effects in the session box when you log in
[18:30] <dr_willis> XDS2010:   if you inssist on not using a ubuntu cd or flash drive. you should look into a debootstrap install of ubuntu. easier to just use a cd or flash.
[18:30] <XDS2010> dr_willis:  what dont you understand ?
[18:30] <FiReSTaRT> edoceo: so if i put it on top of the other panel, it will become the border?
[18:31] <dr_willis> XDS2010:  this is the first time you actually explained what you were doing... and first you metnioned slax..
[18:31] <edoceo> I think you have to re-order the panel, so the larger one is "panel 1" not "panel 2"
[18:31] <RedXIII> auronandace: So basically pick "Gnome - No Effects" from "Ubuntu" on the login screen?
[18:31] <XDS2010> dr_willis:  no this is the first time you asked me to repeat myself
[18:31] <andycc> myrmidette: how about trying Postler?
[18:31] <RedXIII> auronandace: Or pick Ubuntu 2d fallback
[18:32] <FiReSTaRT> edoceo: correction.. the windows are maximizing all the way to the bottom of the screen.. i just moved the lower panel above the higher panel and in the strip left underneath, i see the lower part of a maximized window
[18:32] <auronandace> RedXIII: i'd try no effects, to rule out compiz (i think unity 2d still uses compiz(i might be wrong))
[18:32] <andycc> RedXIII: both should work, as far as I can tell. The Ubuntu 2D fallback uses the Qt version of compiz.
[18:32] <asteve> do i need to run console-kit-daemon?
[18:32] <andycc> RedXIII: s/compiz/Unity, sorry.
[18:32] <RedXIII> The Gnome no effects doesn't work
[18:32] <RedXIII> Still no caps-lock lightup or key recognition
[18:32] <asteve> it's currently using 266mb on a 600mb system which is causing memory problems
[18:33] <Pici> auronandace: it does not use compiz at all. the 2d interface is built with qt in place of the fancy effects.
[18:33] <edoceo> FiReSTaRT: out of my realm, sry.  I think the panel block-out behaviour is only in play when the panels are fixed to the edge of the screen, when they become part of the border
[18:33] <pepee> HQRaja, try looking at the source code of the app that creates the ap
[18:33] <auronandace> Pici: oh, awesome, thanks for the info
[18:33] <edoceo> Else, panels that are not edge-attached do not become part of the edge
[18:33] <RedXIII> auronandace: And Ubuntu 2D doesn't work either.
[18:34] <auronandace> RedXIII: ah
[18:34] <auronandace> RedXIII: i'm not sure what to suggest sorry
[18:34] <pepee> HQRaja, that, or, if it is a simple icon, try searching for it
[18:35] <RedXIII> =/ I'll check google. thanks anyway
[18:35] <RedXIII> well okay.. Keyboard works after I resume from Suspend..
[18:35] <FiReSTaRT> edoceo: any way to attach them to the edge that you know of?
[18:36] <edoceo> I generally put only one panel per edge, and they behave as top-level windows
[18:36] <edoceo> NAK, not top-level - edges
[18:36] <XDS2010> I don't understand what the big deal is,  I have windows installed on one partition and another partition thats blank, I am using a liveUSB OS , i want to install ubuntu and dual boot.  Where ITFM ?
[18:37] <HQRaja> pepee: The app is basically 'Networks'...the Networks settings panel found in System settings. Regarding the source code, I am not qualified enough to be able to understand that :(
[18:37] <Frogging101> Um... Why am I able to edit the titles, descriptions and status of bugs and answers on Launchpad?
[18:37] <XDS2010> Is there no such thing as a linux based installation ?
[18:37] <RedXIII> auronandace: Well.. Keyboard works fine after I woke it from Suspend once. Even though multiple restarts didn't do anything. I don't even...
[18:37] <auronandace> XDS2010: i don't understand your problem, can't you boot the livecd and install?
[18:37] <DeltaEpsilon> I am in love with ubuntu
[18:37] <HQRaja> DeltaEpsilon: Welcome to the club!
[18:37] <dr_willis> XDS2010:  you can use 'debootstrap' to install ubuntu to a drive from within a differnt linux os  if you dont want to boot a cd/flash.
[18:38] <RedXIII> Oh well. Weird issue seems to have solved itself x_x
[18:38] <auronandace> RedXIII: odd
[18:38] <pepee> HQRaja, sorry, but I use lxde, not gnome/unity/whatever
[18:38] <edoceo> My update says that the "the following have been kept back" - How to force them to install? I need the 'rails' that is being kept back
[18:38] <Xase> I have a question bout xorg and touchscreens
[18:38] <dr_willis> edoceo:  try a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[18:38] <HQRaja> pepee: Not a problem...thanks for trying to help. It's the thought that counts...really appreciate it =)
[18:38] <FiReSTaRT> edoceo: thanks anyway... i'll post on several forums and see what's up :)
[18:39] <asteve> how do i stop console-kit-daemon?
[18:40] <Phr3d13> XDS2010: what exactly are you asking?
[18:40] <XDS2010> auronandace: OMFG! i dont want to boot anything , i just want to install ubuntu right from linux
[18:40] <Xase> ...
[18:40] <pepee> HQRaja, :)
[18:40] <auronandace> XDS2010: from what linux?
[18:40] <edoceo> gosh,
[18:40] <pepee> XDS2010, google "hd-media install ubuntu"
[18:41] <XDS2010> dr_willis:  what is debbootstrap ive never heard of that is it new ?
[18:41] <edoceo> XDS2010: to install Ubuntu use the Ubuntu CD, not Slax
[18:41] <dr_willis> XDS2010:  first google hit -> debootstrap is a tool which will install a Debian base system into a subdirectory of another, already installed system. It doesn't require an installation CD, just access to a Debian repository. It can also be installed and run from another operating system,
[18:41] <dr_willis> http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap
[18:41] <dr_willis> it can work with ubuntu.. somehow.
[18:41] <pepee> easiest and quickest way to install another distro
[18:41] <dr_willis> !debootstrap
[18:41] <Xase> Ubuntu doesn't see my touch screen, so I'm assuming I need to do some configuring of Xorg
[18:42] <XDS2010> ah i was searching debbootstrap
[18:42] <XDS2010> with two b's
[18:43] <edoceo> What was the tool to update rc scripts? chk-config? or ... ?
[18:43] <myrmidette> ok, I want to ask again: is there a linux email client with priority inbox support?
[18:44] <jordanm> edoceo: update-rc.d
[18:44] <edoceo> thx, just found :D
[18:45] <dr_willis> update-rc.d -> one of the oddest name programs ive ever seen
[18:45] <Phr3d13> As far as I know if the client has imap support it should work with priority inbox
[18:45] <AwkwardPenguin> Hey, um, I get this error message when I try to check for updates for Ubuntu 11.10.
[18:45] <AwkwardPenguin> The message is:  "W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release amd64 (20111012)/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[18:45] <jordanm> dr_willis: matches invoke-rc.d
[18:45] <AwkwardPenguin> , W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release amd64 (20111012)/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[18:45] <AwkwardPenguin> , W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release amd64 (20111012)/dists/oneiric/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[18:46] <AwkwardPenguin> , W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release amd64 (20111012)/dists/oneiric/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[18:46] <FloodBot1> AwkwardPenguin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:46] <Xase> OMFG
[18:46] <urlin2u> AwkwardPenguin, you installed?
[18:46] <Xase> No one familiar with xorg/touchscreens?
[18:46] <dr_willis> AwkwardPenguin:  remove the cdrom from your soruces listing if you dont use a cd.
[18:47] <Phr3d13> AwkwardPenguin: go into sources,  uncheck the "cd" option
[18:47] <AwkwardPenguin> sry bout the flood. ^^;
[18:47] <jleclair> oigh. So, my USB hard drive is not detecting; at all. Doesn't show up in /dev or /dev/disk. I unplug it and wait 30 sec, plug it back in, and nothing in dmesg comes out. My mouse is USB, and that works, on the same port. Any ideas? I'm shooting in the dark here
[18:47] <jleclair> Ubu 11.10
[18:47] <urlin2u> Xase, you need to be specific like the computer model etc, and have you looked on the web/
[18:47] <zacktu> Thunderbird doesn't sync my Google Calendar after it was upgraded to 8.0.   It always required a special version of a plugin before.  Has that changed?
[18:47] <AwkwardPenguin> Okay, I'll give that  a try.
[18:47] <dr_willis> jleclair:  sounds like the HD may be dead.. does it make any noises? spin up? click?
[18:47] <Shaboom> http://baby.cn.yahoo.com/pic/
[18:47] <Xase> I've looked on the web. It's undocumented, ubuntu-arm recommended coming here and said you guys were good with X.
[18:47] <Xase> It's a Cypress TrueTouch
[18:48] <Xase> I'm trying to just use evtouch driver
[18:48] <Xase> Not sure on correct driver name, if even existent.
[18:48] <RedXIII> how do I directly input an address into the new ubuntu file manager?
[18:48] <trism> RedXIII: ctrl+L
[18:48] <Xase> Touch screen is compiled in my kernel. But Ubuntu definitely didn't detect it in any sort of way.
[18:48] <urlin2u> Shaboom, this is a english channel do not post random links please.
[18:48] <RedXIII> What an odd key combination..
[18:49] <Xase> urlin2u: that information a little more specific?
[18:49] <Xase> Computer model: Nook Color :)
[18:49] <dr_willis> RedXIII:  been ctrl-l for quite a few releases now...
[18:49] <RedXIII> I haven't upgraded in a while
[18:49] <dr_willis> RedXIII:  theres settings to make the address bar always show.
[18:49] <RedXIII> Where are those settings?
[18:49] <The_BROS> How to fix problem with skype? It eats lot of memory and sometimes freezes((.
[18:49] <dr_willis> RedXIII:  last i looked. ubuntu-tweak had them.  i just use ctrl-l as needed.
[18:50] <RedXIII> oh, I see. They moved the menu bar to the top of the screen? O_o weird.
[18:50] <dr_willis> RedXIII:  thats  the 'global menu'
[18:50] <auronandace> The_BROS: skype is closed source, ask the skype devs
[18:50] <dr_willis> RedXIII:   check out http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/4795149014/the-power-users-guide-to-unity
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[18:51] <AwkwardPenguin> thanks guys. it worked! =)
[18:51] <trism> RedXIII: gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.preferences always-use-location-entry true;
[18:52] <dr_willis> RedXIII:  the webupd8 blog sites unity tweaking guide is a good read also.
[18:52] <sauk> hi
[18:53] <HQRaja> saberrr riderrrrrr...and the star sheriffs
[18:58] <HQRaja> BTW why cant one 'su' in ubuntu? any idea?
[18:59] <ruslan_osmanov> hi. is there a way to downgrade from gedit 3 to gedit 2 using a package manager?
[18:59] <soreau> HQRaja: try sudo -i
[18:59] <blime> HQRaja: root is disabled, use 'sudo -i'
[18:59] <HQRaja> I see...thanks
[19:01] <x__> evil woman... offered you my soul... you ran it over hot coals
[19:01] <aeon-ltd> ruslan_osmanov: i doubt it not without accessing some kind of old ppa to do so, there is likely .deb(s) for old versions of gedit for ubuntu anyway
[19:02] <oCean> x__: please stop random nonsense
[19:02] <w30> HQRaja, you can set it up by adding user root but you don't want to. Ubuntu is set up safer and uses sudo to gain privileges
[19:02] <batlock> ok so now i got gnome3
[19:02] <t_ubuntu> Hi, I'm not sure whether to ask this question here or in #kubuntu, but I'll try here first since there are more people:
[19:02] <t_ubuntu> Can I use the command shown on the following website to turn a kubuntu I would install over ubuntu (kubuntu-desktop package) into a "real/pure/clean" kubuntu, that is just as if I had installed it from the Kubuntu CD?
[19:02] <t_ubuntu> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[19:02] <batlock> but now cairo dock shows up in the upper left hand side of the screen instead of the bottom edge
[19:02] <FloodBot1> t_ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:02] <w30> HQRaja, or if you must use sudo -i
[19:02] <BMT> How can i uninstall an app via. Terminal?
[19:03] <x__> oCean, yes sir sarge sir!
[19:03] <HQRaja> w30: Yup sudo -i or sudo bash (as someone else just told me on another channel) would work just fine...thanks :)
[19:03] <soreau> BMT: apt-get remove
[19:03] <ruslan_osmanov> aeon-ltd, I had troubles compiling it myself. So I'll find a deb, indeed. Thanks
[19:04] <BMT> soreau Thanks :)
[19:05] <aeon-ltd> ruslan_osmanov: when compiling it may require old(er) dependencies aswell, so will the deb (most likely anyways)
[19:05] <urlin2u> t_ubuntu, to be honest your question is confusing can you give the long version of what you have installed completely?
[19:06] <ruslan_osmanov> aeon-ltd, perhaps it won't require dev packages
[19:06] <BMT> Is there anyway I can check what apps to download via. terminal using apt-get command?
[19:06] <b0ot> How do I get a wallpaper to spread across two monitors?
[19:06] <soreau> BMT: If searching for an app, you can try apt-cache search
[19:07] <aeon-ltd> b0ot: mkaeshift method: use gimp break it into 2 then set each independently
[19:07] <b0ot> aeon-ltd, does that work in ubuntu 10.04?
[19:07] <t_ubuntu> I haven't done it yet, but my goal is to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu, and so I found that website giving a command to get rid of ubuntu(-desktop), if you have installed it on an original kubuntu installation. Now I have an original ubuntu installation and want to turn it into a pure kubuntu (as it would be installed from a kubuntu cd) installing kubuntu-desktop and then running that command. But I'm not sure whether it wo
[19:07] <aeon-ltd> b0ot: if you can set individual wallpapers per each monitor then yes it would
[19:07] <b0ot> aeon-ltd, it doesn't seem to let you
[19:07] <batlock> anyone have any idea when i tell cairo-dock to sit on the bottom of the screen, it shows up in the top left side of the screen?
[19:07] <b0ot> at least I don't know how to
[19:07] <t_ubuntu> Sorry for the complicated description, I hope you understand anyway what I want to do.
[19:08] <batlock> !cairo-dock
[19:08] <XDS2010> this is so gay, there has got to be a emdebian gui somwhere
[19:08] <batlock> !dock
[19:08] <aeon-ltd> b0ot: ok then, good luck
[19:08] <x__> all night long, in the rain and snow! IN THE RAIN and snow.
[19:08] <aeon-ltd> BATMAN AWAY!
[19:08] <XDS2010> its like 50 steps just to get the platform ready to install
[19:08] <Myrtti> t_ubuntu: you got cut off at "not sure whether it wo"
[19:09] <urlin2u> XDS2010, using the term gay as a pejorative is not appreciated.
[19:09] <t_ubuntu> Myrtti: Thanks, I wrote "But I'm not sure whether it would work or destroy the system."
[19:09] <auronandace> x__: stop that please
[19:09] <XDS2010> urlin2u:  no? , Is that what we are going with ?
[19:09] <urlin2u> XDS2010, you might get out of that habit it is a oppressive stance
[19:10] <XDS2010> ok then.
[19:10] <jose> hola¿alguien habla español?
[19:10] <oCean> !es | jose
[19:10] <urlin2u> !es
[19:10] <mneptok> !away | BluesKaj-busy
[19:11] <XDS2010> With over 1000 people in here i didn't think that swearing would be a big deal, but since it bothers some people i'll keep it family friendly
[19:11] <XDS2010> urlin2u:  sorry if i offended you or your race
[19:12] <BMT> any recommended anti-virus for ubuntu 11.10?
[19:12] <urlin2u> XDS2010, not me personally it just shows a lack of cognitive development in your case.
[19:12] <auronandace> !av | BMT
[19:12] <sskalnik> BMT, there is no need for one ;)
[19:12] <soreau> XDS2010: assuming large groups of people dont have standards is just ignorant
[19:13] <m0ar_> hey everyone
[19:13] <soreau> hi m0ar_
[19:13] <m0ar_> just wanted to say hi, Im kind of new around here
[19:13] <soreau> ! irc
[19:14] <XDS2010> soreau:  assuming is ignorant IMHO as well
[19:14] <mneptok> XDS2010: drop it.
[19:14] <XDS2010> whats that old saying ?
[19:14] <oCean> !coc > XDS2010
[19:14] <soreau> XDS2010: Right so why would you think just because a channel has over 1000 people, its ok to swear?
[19:14] <auronandace> XDS2010: are you stuck with installing ubuntu?
[19:14] <mneptok> soreau: please stop
[19:15] <m0ar_> any good command based torrent clients?
[19:15] <Gentoo64> rtorrrent
[19:15] <batlock> it's like cairo dock only sees the screen as being like only 150 pixels wide or some shit
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Increased likelyhood of children in larger groups
[19:15] <batlock> and like 75 high
[19:15] <BMT> thanks guys :)
[19:15] <XDS2010> auronandace:  well i found wubi which is helpful, but no frontend for debootstrap
[19:15] <jordan> rtorrent, deluge, transmission all have command line
[19:15] <soreau> ! torrent | m0ar_
[19:15] <auronandace> BMT: no worries :)
[19:15] <m0ar_> okay I guess Im going to go with rtorrent
[19:16] <sskalnik> BMT welcome to the joys of ubuntu
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> m0ar_: transmission has cli as well as a web ui
[19:16] <auronandace> XDS2010: i'd recommend against wubi, better to simply just dual boot or use a vm
[19:16] <soreau> m0ar_: transmission is the default client in ubuntu and works quite well from my experiences
[19:16] <BMT> Im learning Linux, windows is too easy lol
[19:16] <m0ar_> okay I will look into transmission
[19:16] <mneptok> m0ar_: transmission-cli is a package you'll want to look at
[19:16] <XDS2010> debootstrap seems to only install arch's over a network installation, unfortunately where i am no i don't have access to a HSD connection.
[19:16] <m0ar_> thanx
[19:17] <Gentoo64> BMT, windows command line is cryptic compared to linux, lol
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Bmt: desktop yes, server not so simple
[19:17] <XDS2010> auronandace:  virtual machine ?
[19:17] <Gentoo64> guess you havent tried that>
[19:17] <mneptok> !info transmission-cli
[19:17] <auronandace> XDS2010: yes
[19:17] <batlock> well, looks like it's a fresh in stall, considering Ubuntu can't go more than 3 months running without breaking something
[19:17] <XDS2010> whats the point of that? , im trying to get away from windows, not disentangent it
[19:17] <batlock> maybe i'll switch back to windows
[19:17] <auronandace> XDS2010: wubi has no advantages for me so i find it useless to offer it to others
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: powershell makes windows cli awesome
[19:18] <Gentoo64> batlock, because ubuntu is the only distro
[19:18] <Gentoo64> ActionParsnip, yeah its more like linux i suppose
[19:18] <soreau> batlock: You mean you cant go longer than three months without breaking your ubuntu ;)
[19:18] <batlock> no i mean i can't go longer than 3 months without ubuntu breaking
[19:18] <auronandace> XDS2010: a vm is a great testing ground before you make a leap to a dual install
[19:18] <XDS2010> Gentoo64:  why are you insulting batlock ? , He/she is only thinking what we all are thinking.
[19:18] <batlock> this whole thing started when compiz took a crap
[19:18] <soreau> batlock: What has broken?
[19:19] <Gentoo64> XDS2010, i didnt insult
[19:19] <soreau> batlock: Is compiz still not working for you?
[19:19] <xrandr-win7> hi. I just uninstalled the provided ubuntu nvidia module, and installed the latest nvidia module from nvidia's site. Now when i boot, i get the ubuntu splash screen and my screen keeps flickering
[19:19] <XDS2010> "[14:17] <Gentoo64> batlock, because ubuntu is the only distro"
[19:19] <Gentoo64> XDS2010, if you dont like ubuntu, that isnt the end of linux
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Wubi is fine but when it breaks its a real pain
[19:19] <XDS2010> Yes but you put it sarcasticly Gentoo64
[19:19] <Gentoo64> yeah
[19:19] <batlock> soreau, well cairo dock won't appear in the correct place on the screen, compiz won't work, i got gnome 3 but the window borders aren't showing right, GL is effed up even though I have the nvidia drivers installed, but wait, they're not in use, but i have composting kinda,
[19:19] <OttifantSir> I would like help with a problem: I have used Picasa and when deleting pictures via it, the folder created by the tag isn't deleted. The folder contains only Picasa.ini and the folder Originals with another Picasa.ini. I would like to be able to delete all these empty folders and leave all other folders via a bash-line. Anyone?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> xrandr-win7: nvidia drivers are in the official repos
[19:20] <batlock> and that's all that i can think of off the top of my head
[19:20] <soreau> batlock: Either your drivers are working or theyre not. What is the output of glxinfo|grep renderer?
[19:20] <batlock> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 9600M GS/PCI/SSE2
[19:20] <sskalnik> xrandr-win7, You'll probably want to use the modules provided by ubuntu
[19:21] <batlock> but see.
[19:21] <soreau> batlock: Can you pastebin the output of compiz --replace to pastebin.com? Assuming you are in gnome3 fallback mode, not in gnome shell session
[19:21] <bekks> nvidia-current works fine with that chipset here.
[19:21] <batlock> xorg:nvidia_current - NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (Proprietary, Enabled, Not in use)
[19:21] <batlock> NO
[19:21] <t_ubuntu> So, what do you think: Is it safe to use this "Remove Ubuntu" command on an original ubuntu installation with kubuntu-desktop installed?
[19:21] <t_ubuntu> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[19:21] <batlock> i will not compiz --replace
[19:21] <xrandr-win7> sskalnik, that's great, but how do i fix this problem? I cant get to a command prompt or anything
[19:21] <batlock> that's where crap goes bad
[19:22] <soreau> batlock: Can you pastebin your X log then?
[19:22] <bekks> batlock: Then enable the nvidia-driver by using nvidia-xconfig and nvidia-settings.
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> m0ar_: there is also transgui which you can run on a remote system to manage torrents. You will need the web ui enabled
[19:22] <batlock> bekks, you think i haven't done that?
[19:22] <sskalnik> xrandr-win7, are you able to get to one with Alt F1/F2/F3 etc?
[19:22] <xrandr-win7> sskalnik, nope. just stuck at the ubuntu splash screen with the word ubuntu and 5 dots under it
[19:22] <soreau> batlock: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to paste.ubuntu.com
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> xrandr-win7: hold shift at boot and select recovery mode then select root
[19:23] <xrandr-win7> ok
[19:23] <bekks> batlock: Yes, I know it, since the nvidia-driver isnt enabled.
[19:23] <batlock> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761957/
[19:23] <urlin2u> t_ubuntu, generally those commands on psychocats work fine but you can loose things you installed intermitently that are extras.
[19:23] <OttifantSir> I would like help with a problem: I have used Picasa and when deleting pictures via it, the folder created by the tag isn't deleted. The empty folder contains only Picasa.ini and the folder Originals with another Picasa.ini. I would like to be able to delete all these empty folders via a bash-line and leave all other folders and pictures. Anyone?
[19:24] <XDS2010> batlock:  perhaps it is your hatred of unity that has you concentrating on the slight discrepencies in the visualization of ubuntu ?
[19:24] <oCean> XDS2010: drop the offtopic discussion. You've been told multiple times this channel is for tech support only
[19:24] <t_ubuntu> urlin2u: Ok, but as they write configs should not be deleted by the command, so the risk of breaking the entire system and having to reinstall is rather low, isn't it?
[19:24] <batlock> bekks, ok lemmie relogin and see what the result is (it will be the same)
[19:25] <urlin2u> t_ubuntu, theoretically yes.
[19:25] <urlin2u> t_ubuntu, if your real worried clone it with clonezilla first.
[19:25] <batlock> bekks,  gee, i did all taht
[19:25] <batlock> but guess what
[19:25] <batlock> xorg:nvidia_current - NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (Proprietary, Enabled, Not in use)
[19:25] <batlock> still not in use
[19:25] <batlock> you failed to realize it's a bug
[19:26] <bekks> batlock: Then nopaste your xorg.conf.
[19:26] <soreau> batlock: If you login to a ubuntu2D session, compiz should work fine without unity
[19:26] <Gentoo64> batlock, i think thats a cosmetic bug
[19:26] <t_ubuntu> urlin2u: ok, thanks, that's what I wanted to know from more knowledgeable users before I try. I'll do a backup of any important files first, that should be enough (I don't know clonezilla).
[19:26] <bekks> batlock: If it is a bug - why do I have no problems with a similar setup here?
[19:26] <Gentoo64> batlock, ive heard loads of people getting that message (not in use) when its actually working
[19:26] <bekks> batlock: And along with the xorg.conf, nopaste the according Xorg.0.log
[19:26] <XDS2010> was ubuntu always debian based ?
[19:26] <m0ar_> window_history ON
[19:27] <Resistance> XDS2010:  yews
[19:27] <Resistance> yes*
[19:27] <batlock> bekks, so you have a laptop with a 9600 gsm in it that works perfect?
[19:27] <batlock> and your drivers are in use?
[19:27] <bekks> batlock: Exactly.
[19:27] <m0ar_> scrollback_lines = 500
[19:27] <batlock> xorg.conf
[19:27] <batlock> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761964/
[19:28] <batlock> bekks, so how's that asus doing then?
[19:28] <bekks> batlock: I never bought Asus until now - I have no clue what they are doing ;) Where's your Xorg.0.log?
[19:28] <batlock> also
[19:28] <urlin2u> t_ubuntu, clonezilla is a bootable cloning app you can save the whole thing and reinstall if needed, backing up partially is okay but I use clonezilla to get a full image often. http://clonezilla.org/
[19:29] <batlock> bekks, i dunno, if i knew where it was it'd be posted
[19:29] <OffGridOps> A fellow from Cannonical asked me "Would it be possible for you to test the latest upstream kernel?  v3.2-rcN kernel"  This is from a bug I cited here:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/900594
[19:29] <OffGridOps> How do I do this?
[19:29] <GatorAlli> I have a shell script in cron.hourly. How do I find out the time that cron activates the hour trigger?
[19:29] <Gentoo64> OffbeatAdam, why did he ask you then, lol
[19:29] <Gentoo64> OffGridOps, ^
[19:29] <MooMooCow_> Does anyone know why there is no more Ubuntu training?  http://webapps.ubuntu.com/course_locator/
[19:29] <OffGridOps> yeah
[19:30] <batlock> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761966/   xorg.0.log
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> OffGridOps: try precise in live cd and you'll get it
[19:30] <diesch> GatorAlli: have look at /etc/crontab
[19:30] <Phr3d13> How do I start network manager from a terminal?
[19:30] <OffGridOps> can u put that in laymans terms?
[19:30] <OffGridOps> i have only a usb stick i dumped from the net
[19:31] <ViaNocturna> OffGridOps, what he means is that you get 12.04 (Precise) from the live cd/usb
[19:31] <bekks> batlock: according to your current Xorg.0.log, nvidia actually _is_ in use. You can try to start nvidia-settings now to verify it.
[19:31] <OffGridOps> ah, so they want me to install 12.04?
[19:32] <batlock> bekks, this is what i just told you
[19:32] <auronandace> OffGridOps: no just use live cd
[19:32] <Gentoo64> OffGridOps, if it contains that kernel, its the easiest way to test it
[19:32] <trism> OffGridOps: the kernel he wants you to test is here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.2-rc4-oneiric/ , download the one for your arch and install with: sudo dpkg -i linux-image*.deb;
[19:32] <batlock> it's a BUG
[19:32] <Gentoo64> batlock, i told you its a cosmetic bug
[19:32] <batlock> which is why i said it's working but its not but it is
[19:32] <batlock> Gentoo64, yep
[19:32] <hidensoft> hi , how i can create L2TP VPN connection ?
[19:32] <Gentoo64> who cares if it works
[19:32] <OffGridOps> is there any coming back from it in a worst case scenario?  thanx btw
[19:32] <batlock> cause it doesn't
[19:32] <Hilarie> bleh, wb me, if I edit resolve.conf to the DNS's I want, will they be the default for each connection I make?
[19:32] <Barbarian> OffGridOps, You can run linux OS just from the cd with nothing installed. Google unetbootin
[19:33] <batlock> because jockey is reporting it's not in use, things are broke
[19:33] <Gentoo64> OffGridOps, you dont install a livecd
[19:33] <batlock> things that aren't broke in 10.10
[19:33] <trism> OffGridOps: just select the previous kernel from grub (hold shift to get the menu if necessary) and you can easily remove it
[19:33] <batlock> i.e. cairo-dock, composting in KDE, etc
[19:33] <OffGridOps> i guess you're saying dump that onto a usb stick and they run the OS off the stick?
[19:33] <Gentoo64> yeah
[19:33] <batlock> example, if i switch to the kde session, then open a terminal, then resize that terminal, i get a total system lockup
[19:33] <Gentoo64> the kernels still in use
[19:33] <ViaNocturna> OffGridOps, a live cd is basically linux on a cd (or usb with unetbootin) it allows you to run ubuntu without installing just from cd/usb
[19:33] <batlock> i can't even sysreq REISUB
[19:33] <Barbarian> OffbeatAdam, Exactly!
[19:34] <Barbarian> oops
[19:34] <Gentoo64> batlock, dont sound good does it
[19:34] <PIE-OB> anyone working with openxenmanager by any chance ?
[19:34] <batlock> the graphics just poops
[19:34] <OffGridOps> alrighty!  thank you all very much!
[19:34] <MooMooCow_> Does anyone know why there is no more Ubuntu training?  http://webapps.ubuntu.com/course_locator/  I'm trying to find some training for Ubuntu Server.
[19:34] <trism> the kernel in precise is not the upsteam kernel, so not really the correct suggestion here
[19:34] <batlock> imma go run and find out something about the upcoming release
[19:35] <OffGridOps> this guy was specific in what he wanted ran --- that version i listed.  said it wasn't a daily build
[19:35] <Gentoo64> 3.2rc4 afaik is the latest
[19:35] <OttifantSir> I have used Picasa and when deleting pictures via it, the folder created by the tag isn't deleted. The folder contains only Picasa.ini and the folder Originals with another Picasa.ini. I would like to be able to delete all these empty folders and leave all other folders via a bash-line. Anyone?
[19:35] <OffGridOps> i'm a non coder so i am sorry i am not too educated but i want to help fix what is wrong
[19:35] <auronandace> OffGridOps: listen to trism's suggestion
[19:36] <Gentoo64> well 3.2rc4 youd prob have to manually install
[19:36] <Gentoo64> unless theres some ppa for it
[19:36] <t_ubuntu> urlin2u: Thanks for the explanation. I should have a look at clonezilla :)
[19:36] <t_ubuntu> bye
[19:36] <random8737> Q). how would one create a dynamic dns service like dyndns, but for private use?
[19:37] <joesigal2134> http://bit.ly/uPBolO does this problem have to do with ubuntu?
[19:38] <bekks> joesigal2134: Do NOT advertise crap sites in here please.
[19:38] <auronandace> joesigal2134: what was that meant to link to?
[19:38] <oCean> joesigal2134: stop posting nonsense links
[19:39] <themachinegun> hey..!
[19:39] <auronandace> themachinegun: don't say "stick 'em up"
[19:39] <xrandr> thanks for all your help guys. I got the X server running right :)
[19:39] <hidensoft> no way ?
[19:40] <k2iguvahetaja> hey
[19:40] <batlock> bekks, let me put it to you this way, if i DON'T use the nvidia drivers and rely on the 'experimental 3D drivers' i can actually use things like compiz, without any issues, but i get issues between logouts and such (the screen breaks severly, screenshots show no problems but the screen is all fractal)  then once i pop back to ANY nvidia driver (previous ver, current ver, or straight from nvidia) i can still use composting, but compiz won't do titlebars on th
[19:40] <batlock> e windows, i lose all ability to type in any window, etc.
[19:40] <xrandr> i got so used to running fedora. Now I can't because their 64 bit version doesn't boot
[19:40] <k2iguvahetaja> has anyone's ubuntu 11.10 also flipped today?
[19:41] <batlock> and this is ONLY in 11.xx
[19:41] <themachinegun> i m using Ylms OS is it best for hacking tools
[19:41] <batlock> so something's broke in ubuntu 11.xx
[19:41] <auronandace> k2iguvahetaja: flipped?
[19:41] <k2iguvahetaja> like it worked good for 11.10
[19:41] <bekks> batlock: Nvidia works very fine here with 11.04 and 11.10.
[19:41] <MahaVishnu> im starting to think ubuntu is flipped -_-
[19:41] <k2iguvahetaja> but today everything behaves unpredictably
[19:42] <ViaNocturna> k2iguvahetaja, im afraid you have to be a little more precise than that lol
[19:42] <MahaVishnu> Ubuntu 12.0 FlippedFox
[19:42] <k2iguvahetaja> first strike was php5 fuser forkbomb in cron
[19:42] <Trudko> Guys I have pretty crappy PC which I need for work until I will get a new one. I have only 1GB Ram and I need to develop a little for android using eclipse / java. It is ubuntu good for that? I need to use it less ram then XP
[19:42] <k2iguvahetaja> and after restart was black screen, reinstalled old nvidia drivers
[19:42] <k2iguvahetaja> now java isnt working anymore
[19:43] <k2iguvahetaja> and chromium and chrome displayed a lot of oh snaps
[19:43] <delight> how can i set the default char set encoding to utf-8 on my mysql-db (lucid) ?
[19:43] <oCean> k2iguvahetaja: using ylms os?
[19:43] <auronandace> Trudko: you might want to try lubuntu
[19:43] <k2iguvahetaja> after 3rd restart chrome seems ok
[19:43] <auronandace> !lubuntu | Trudko
[19:43] <k2iguvahetaja> Im using ubuntu 11.10 but I installed xfce
[19:43] <k2iguvahetaja> and there Im using compiz :P
[19:43] <k2iguvahetaja> so its kinda of everything :D
[19:43] <karl-augustt> Please in /usr/src/linux  dos , which of file give or speak about kernel constructions?
[19:44] <karl-augustt> Please in /usr/src/linux  dos , which of files give or speak about kernel constructions?
[19:44] <Trudko> auronandace: thank you for tip, can please tell me in short , why it should be better ?
[19:44] <Trist> Trudko: android works great with android emulator, but 1gb might be not enough. Selecting "snapshot feature" will help improve.
[19:44] <k2iguvahetaja> what was the change with /run and /var/run in 11.10?
[19:44] <k2iguvahetaja> maybe it's related to this
[19:44] <Trist> *ubuntu works great...
[19:44] <auronandace> Trudko: lxde is very lightweight, less resource intensive than most other desktops
[19:44] <mindaugas52> hello. any1 knows wtf is this: ? fixme:alsa:AudioClient_GetMixFormat Don't know what to do with 32 channels, pretending there's only 2 channels
[19:45] <k2iguvahetaja> every desktop env is great when you have compiz :D
[19:45] <Trudko> Trist: whats snaphost? and I dont use emulator I am using phone directly. Btw will Ubuntu detec my HTC Desire Z phone without problem?
[19:45] <Trudko> auronandace: thx
[19:46] <Archenom> cell phones are a waste of time
[19:46] <ViaNocturna> Trudko, i have an android and have had the Wildfire, no problems with detection
[19:46] <k2iguvahetaja> does anyone knows how to kill a process which is "defunct"?
[19:46] <raptor67682> hello world
[19:46] <k2iguvahetaja> -9 does not help
[19:46] <raptor67682> would oyu knonw how to send a fax with LINUX?
[19:47] <batlock> bekks, well is there any testing utility to tell me whether or not my gfx card is flailing>
[19:47] <batlock> ?
[19:47] <murder--> when I try to boot Ubuntu 11 DVD it says 'initramfs - Unable to find a medium containing a live file system'
[19:47] <Trudko> ViaNocturna: good to hear thanks.
[19:47] <Archenom> who sends a fax anymore?
[19:48] <Trist> Trudko: "Snapshot" is a feature that Android SDK, has. Yes, there is a high chance that Ubuntu will detect the HTC, make sure you got USB debugging (on your phone).
[19:48] <oCean> Archenom: when helping, be helpful.
[19:48] <jose> hola¿alguien habla español?
[19:48] <auronandace> !es | jose
[19:48] <vortmax> Archenom: doctors & lawyers
[19:48] <urlin2u> jose, this is an english channel.
[19:48] <bekks> batlock: I already told you. nvidia-settings.
[19:48] <Trudko> Trist: yes I got it, I am using it sucess. under win xp.
[19:49] <k2iguvahetaja> ok, java is completely dead, sun, openjdk 6 & 7
[19:49] <Archenom> im sorry
[19:49] <Trist> Trudko: Check youtube for a video call "Setting Up the Android SDK in Ubuntu or Debian Linux ", there is a part on how to make sure HTC works under Ubuntu.
[19:50] <raptor67682> Archenom:  me ;)
[19:50] <raptor67682> vortmax: indeed. lawyers
[19:50] <auronandace> raptor67682: and hopefully the person you are sending it to
[19:50] <raptor67682>  I saw that there is a probably "sendfax"  command, but I guess it is with modem
[19:51] <gnat_x> i recently switched my folks' computer from using unity to xfce. after doing so a screen reader was turned on, any thoughts on turning it off.
[19:51] <raptor67682>   I have an USB printer with Sane
[19:51] <DeltaEpsilon>  20:51:10 up 2 days,  3:10,  0 users,  load average: 0.10, 0.09, 0.06
[19:51] <batlock> So yea, looks like imma flop back to 10.04 fer now
[19:51] <k2iguvahetaja> sound stopped :D
[19:53] <waralot> hey?
[19:54] <gnubie> raptor67682,  the ubuntu software center list several apps with a search for fax, I suspect all use modems to reach the phone line.
[19:54] <waralot> if teh are any contributer's here than thanks to you =)
[19:55] <waralot> there*
[19:55] <ViaNocturna> have you checked efax?
[19:57] <waralot> also is it true that i can run almost all the window's program's on ubuntu?
[19:57] <sviesusisalus> hey. what software are you using to benchmark cpu and hdd on ubuntu ?
[19:57] <auronandace> waralot: not really, you can try them in wine and they might work
[19:57] <auronandace> waralot: a better solution is a windows vm
[19:57] <ViaNocturna> waralot, not all but check http://winehq.org for Wine, the program that allows Windows programs to be ran on Ubuntu, it has a list of which work and which don't
[19:58] <karl-augustt> Please can we find linux code in /usr/src/linux?
[19:58] <waralot> why doesent ubunte fix that? or cant they?
[19:58] <PIE-OB> anyone working with openxenmanager by any chance ?
[19:59] <auronandace> waralot: how would they?
[19:59] <karl-augustt> How compile the linux kernel?
[20:00] <Jordan_U> !kernel | karl-augustt
[20:00] <waralot> idk im just thinking that might convince a lot of people.do you by any change now if that is done on purpose?
[20:00] <dubbe> waralot: linux != windows
[20:00] <auronandace> waralot: you are new to linux aren't you?
[20:00] <dgjones> waralot: Two different things, would you expect a diesel car to run to run on petrol?
[20:01] <waralot> @dubbe that true yeay.
[20:01] <waralot> @auronandace i am do you have a few post or vids to fill me in?
[20:02] <auronandace> waralot: fill you in on what exactly?
[20:02] <auronandace> !manual | waralot
[20:02] <waralot> @dgjones no but i would seriouly care for a car that does both
[20:02] <raptor67682> efax looks to be via MODEM
[20:02] <xrandr> i gotta get used to ubuntu again lol :)
[20:02] <raptor67682> :(
[20:03] <vg> hi
[20:03] <auronandace> xrandr: don't worry, it doesn't mean you have to get used to unity :)
[20:03] <xrandr> lol :)
[20:03] <vg> somebody help me for disable Unity?
[20:03] <waralot> @auronandace thank's il take a look
[20:03] <auronandace> waralot: no worries :)
[20:04] <vg> help?
[20:04] <gnubie> raptor67682,  efax.com I believe he meant
[20:04] <Barbarian> !nounity | vg
[20:04] <auronandace> vg: disable how? you want to use a different desktop environment?
[20:05] <vg> yes i want to use Ubuntu whitout Unity
[20:05] <Barbarian> vg See the post by ubottu
[20:05] <waralot> @auronandace yep i was just like: "well isent it faster? and isent it free and open source? so tha last thing is will it run windows program's?" but that will remain a dream
[20:05] <auronandace> vg: my favourite is xfce (sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop)
[20:06] <lnxslck> anyone has nvidia graphic card installed ?
[20:06] <Barbarian> lnxslck, I do
[20:06] <auronandace> waralot: you might be interested in wine or even reactos (but thats a little off-topic for this channel)
[20:06] <Barbarian> lnxslck, lemme guess, Optimus enabled?
[20:07] <lnxslck> Barbarian, how did you install it? i did apt-get install nvidia-current and then nvidia-xsetting and got a back screen every time i wanted to login
[20:07] <waralot> @auronandace ooh and one little thing. i like to fiddle around whit java,c++,c#,vb.net,html,php,javascript,enz can i stll do that?
[20:07] <lnxslck> Barbarian, i have a laptop with intel graphci card integrated and an nvidia graphic card too
[20:07] <auronandace> waralot: thankfully, i only need one windows app and it works in wine
[20:07] <waralot> @auronandace and okay and thx btw
[20:08] <Barbarian> lnxslck, Does your model of graphics card advertise something called "Optimus" technology?
[20:08] <auronandace> waralot: sure
[20:08] <waralot> @auronandace lukky you
[20:08] <dubbe> i have to dual-boot linux/windows until either flash dies or works on linux, either one works for me
[20:08] <auronandace> waralot: vb and .net might be a little trickier
[20:08]  * Barassa is away, auto-away after 15 minutes, (log\off pager\on)
[20:09] <auronandace> waralot: you could use mono for .net, but vb is very microsoft only
[20:09] <karl-augustt> Please some information about the big computer that
[20:09] <waralot> @auronandace mmm...that quite a knock back
[20:09] <karl-augustt> china have just construct?
[20:09] <waralot> @auronandace well so only not vb? i can live whit that
[20:09] <Jordan_U> waralot: Yes, but I don't know how well VB.net is supported and while C# is well supported, not all of C# .net is. Look into mono for C# and .net.
[20:09] <karl-augustt> Please some information about the big computer that china have just construct?
[20:09] <karl-augustt> which is his capacity
[20:10] <Jordan_U> !ot | karl-augustt
[20:10] <mang0> I know this is offtopic, but could someone please hilight me?
[20:10] <karl-augustt> thanks
[20:10] <auronandace> mang0: ok
[20:10] <waralot> i hear the name mono drop a few times before il read up on it. if i dont get back here thanks for the welcome to ubuntu
[20:10] <Jordan_U> mang0: Next time please use #test.
[20:10] <auronandace> waralot: have fun :)
[20:11] <lwizardl> I need help with getting my headphones working yet again. seems the newest updates killed it again
[20:11] <lnxslck> Barbarian, dont think so
[20:11] <waralot> @auronandace thank's well the support is far better than ms now my w7 crush =(
[20:11] <Barbarian> lnxslck, What model is it?
[20:12] <xxx_x> I am having trouble with 10.04, I need to stop some processes and services at startup but bum is not stopping programs, can anyone help?
[20:12] <the_misfit> what is sudo aticonfig --initial -f telling me to do exactly
[20:12] <lnxslck> Barbarian, asus k53s
[20:12] <auronandace> xxx_x: bum?
[20:13] <geoffmcc> boot up manager
[20:13] <the_misfit> its the last command in a supposed workaround for my video card in askubuntu
[20:13] <waralot> @auronandace ooh wait something hit me. is there anything i should know about partitions?
[20:13] <lnxslck> Barbarian, http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K53SC/#specifications
[20:13] <Barbarian> lnxslck, One sec, looking it up
[20:13] <xxx_x> auronandace. bootup-manager
[20:13] <vg> auronandance: can i disable unity and put gnome classic ?
[20:13] <auronandace> geoffmcc: oh, thanks
[20:13] <lnxslck> Barbarian, this is the link: http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K53SC/#specifications
[20:13] <lnxslck> Barbarian, just wanted to get nvidia drivers working
[20:13] <xxx_x> auronandace, i believe the package is called bum
[20:13] <auronandace> waralot: what you need to know about partitions?
[20:13] <raptor67682> yes. I meant that efax is for modem but not to fax to USB printer fax machine
[20:14] <lnxslck> Barbarian, using the xorg file created by nvidia causes my login manager to freeze
[20:14] <vg> auronandace: can u help me please?
[20:14] <Barbarian> lnxslck, I have a sneaking suspicion it's the same problem I had
[20:14] <auronandace> vg: someone told you how earlier
[20:14] <lnxslck> Barbarian, what have you done to fix it?
[20:14] <vg> auronandace : can i disable Unity and install gnome-shell
[20:14] <auronandace> !notunity | vg
[20:15] <waralot> @auronandace well when i instaled w7 i had to delte the a partitions and make a new one (leving drive d and somthing reserved for oem?) and my questions is can i delete those or?
[20:15] <nibalizer> t
[20:15] <Jordan_U> vg: Gnome2 is no longer supported by GNOME, and therefore is not supported by any recent distribution (even outside Ubuntu).
[20:15] <xxx_x> all i want to do is stop all network proceses at startup so I can create my own at every boot, can anyone help?
[20:15] <Barbarian> lnxslck, get this ppa https://launchpad.net/~mj-casalogic/+archive/ironhide do "sudo apt-get install ironhide" and whenever you wanna run a program using the card preface it with "optirun"
[20:15] <Jordan_U> vg: You can try the GNOME Fallback mode, as mentioned by ubottu, though.
[20:16] <auronandace> waralot: you can have up to 4 main partitions, an extended partition holds logical partitions
[20:16] <vg> Jordan_U: but how...im noob. some help please
[20:16] <waralot> @auronandace "auronandace is now thinking: you studpid noob rtfm!"
[20:16] <waralot> lol okay thx and bye
[20:17] <Jordan_U> vg: Install the "gnome-panel" package and select "GNOME Fallback" from the sessions dropdown on the login screen.
[20:17] <raptor67682> and hp-sendfax soounds good. However it has no backend
[20:17] <geoffmcc> !away | pickart
[20:19] <lnxslck> Barbarian, that's not the kind of solution i'm looking for but thanks anyway
[20:19] <Barbarian> lnxslck, it's not the one I wanted either
[20:19] <geoffmcc> lnxslck: are you using nvidia-current?
[20:19] <BluesKaj> heh, the response to away messages clutters the text more than the message itself
[20:19] <lnxslck> geoffmcc, not right now
[20:19] <Barbarian> lnxslck, But nvidia is well known for only supporting windows
[20:20] <lnxslck> geoffmcc, i cant get nv or nvidia driver to work
[20:20] <geoffmcc> lnxslck: have you gone to drivers and enabled it?
[20:20] <lnxslck> Barbarian, not really, i had nvidia a log time ago on linux with no problems
[20:20] <lnxslck> geoffmcc, yes
[20:21] <lnxslck> geoffmcc, Barbarian : i have to go, but i will check with you guys later, thanks for the help
[20:21] <BluesKaj> ins look in admin>additional drivers and choose the "recommended driver" install it then activate if needed
[20:21] <geoffmcc> lnxslck: oh i got a url for ya to try
[20:21] <Barbarian> geoffb, too late
[20:21] <geoffmcc> Barbarian: oh well
[20:22] <BluesKaj> no patience , instant gratification is the order of the generation
[20:22] <arlo> hello anyone can help me to set $cfg['UploadDir'] = '' in phpmyadmin ?
[20:22] <Torcpu> Anyhow to fix my windowmanager in 3d mode when I played with compiz and got all launchers and menubars and such disappear?
[20:22] <Torcpu> Need to reset the settings somehow..
[20:23] <arlo> anyone can help to set sav directory on phpmyadmin, with teamwiewer?
[20:23] <DeltaEpsilon> I am building an gnome shell extension. is it possible for me to include it in Ubuntu (by default if possible)?
[20:23] <The_BROS> Anybody knows any easy program to make gif-anymated pictures? Like banners for site
[20:23] <EvilResistance> arlo:  first off try in #ubuntu-server
[20:24] <EvilResistance> arlo:  secondly, we dont usually fix stuff for people... we try and nudge people into understanding how to fix things, sometimes we just tell you how to fix it, and that's how people learn ;P
[20:24] <raptor67682>  found ,,... would you know how crontab can post you if there is a change onto the page : http://blog.mypapit.net/2007/09/hp-officejet-5680-how-to-send-fax-from-ubuntu-linux-computer.html
[20:24] <raptor67682> (email you with mutt)
[20:24] <Acro> Valla ¿algun canal de ayuda en Español?
[20:24] <vg> #Ubuntu-es
[20:24] <Pici> !es | Acro
[20:24] <EvilResistance> darn, ninja'd
[20:25] <Acro> gracias
[20:25] <skegeek> I need help with LDAP. I was installing eBox and after I rebooted LDAP password is always incorrect at login.
[20:26] <Torcpu> Any help how to reset unity and compiz window manager settings to default? I screwed something up with compiz making launcher and stuff disappear.
[20:28] <arlo__> anyone can help me with set PHPmyadmin in ubunti with teamwiewer?
[20:28] <DeltaEpsilon> how do I create a disk image of 500MB?
[20:28] <zykes->  can ubuntu boot from a software raid 0 ?
[20:31] <yourstrly> DeltaEpsilon: image for qemu?
[20:31] <Vermind> Hi, I am using Oneiric with gnome-shell. I have switched to the dark version of the Adwaita theme, and everything is fine in all GNOME3 apps. For GNOME2 apps, such as Firefox and Pidgin, the titlebar is white. Any ideas how I can make it dark like in GNOME3 apps?
[20:32] <DeltaEpsilon> yourstrly, just a empy raw image for android emulator as sd card
[20:32] <Klavier> "rebuild pcsc-lite without HAL support." how can i do that?
[20:34] <Pici> Klavier: In what context?
[20:34] <joemigal> hello
[20:34] <joemigal> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[20:34] <Klavier> Pici, i have a smartcard reader
[20:34] <Pici> joemigal: Do not advertise here.
[20:34] <joemigal> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[20:34] <DJones> joemigal: And thats relevant to Ubuntu how?
[20:35] <Klavier> but i cant use that, i read a document says: rebuild pcsc-lite without HAL
[20:35] <Klavier> how can i do that
[20:35] <Klavier> do you know answer Pici
[20:35] <trism> Vermind: there is a thread about that here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=928975
[20:35] <peghorse> Hi
[20:35] <yourstrly> DeltaEpsilon: read android sdk docs
[20:35] <peghorse> Please i need help to make my scan of Konica 1680 mf
[20:36] <Pici> Klavier: You'd need to look at how that was compiled and if possible remove the option to build with HAL support.
[20:36] <wolfric> my alt f2 doesn't seem to work any more (opening run). I'm using 11.10 in gnome-failover or failsafe or whatever
[20:36] <peghorse> i need help to install this scan Konica 1680 MF plz
[20:36] <wolfric> any ideas to diagnose?
[20:36] <yourstrly> DeltaEpsilon: http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/devices/emulator.html#sdcard
[20:36] <Klavier> how can check that Pici
[20:37] <wolfric> in fact it's alt f1 and f2 not working
[20:37] <Pici> Klavier: If the source gets configured with ./configure, you can look at the options to that.
[20:41] <Klavier> Pici,   LIBHAL_CFLAGS
[20:41] <Klavier>               C compiler flags for LIBHAL, overriding pkg-config
[20:41] <Klavier>   LIBHAL_LIBS linker flags for LIBHAL, overriding pkg-config
[20:41] <NeedSomeHelp> hello, anyone here know Gimp ?
[20:41] <Klavier> these are Some influential environment variables,
[20:41] <Vermind> trism: Hmm, it seems I had to move the Adwaita theme to my $HOME/.themes and rename it, then change to it using gnome-tweak-tool, and then the theme actually also changes the titlebar of GTK2 apps to a dark one. Funny that the same theme in /usr/share/themes would not work.
[20:41] <Klavier> for ./configure command of pcsc-lite
[20:42] <jrib> NeedSomeHelp: #gimp if you have a usage question.  For ubuntu-related gimp questions (like how to install, etc.) ask here :)
[20:42] <Klavier> how should i use them Pici
[20:42] <Pici> Klavier: I don't know enough about pcsc-lite to advise you either way.
[20:42] <aubreyja_> Hi - does anyone have experience with evault as a backup vendor?
[20:42] <wolfric> anyone happen to use aws? anyone seen the byobu for ubuntu on aws? I've no idea where this is implemented, but i have a little tag there showing me a counter for what i can only assume is aws cost for the machine
[20:43] <Pici> wolfric: I use byobu, not on aws though.  Are you asking how that is implemented?
[20:44] <wolfric> Pici: no i just think it's cool. but yeah i'd be interested to know how it's implemented
[20:44] <rhizmoe> it would be nice if i had time to reinstall
[20:45] <Pici> wolfric: Take a look at /usr/lib/byobu/ec2_cost
[20:50] <XDS2010> i tried installing ubuntu with wubi but when i reboot its telling me it cant find the installation.iso
[20:50] <wolfric> Pici: cheers for that
[20:50] <XDS2010> does anyone know whats wrong ?
[20:50] <XDS2010> I searched on the ubuntu forums but couldn't find any answers
[20:51] <XDS2010> :(
[20:51] <XDS2010> bbiab
[20:52] <BluesKaj> tried installing XDS2010 ? did you see it install on wubi ?
[20:52] <BluesKaj> it's probly in your windows downloads file
[20:52] <BluesKaj> the iso that is , XDS2010_
[20:54] <graingert> anyone know how to get firefox to read from firefox-addons/searchplugins/en-GB rather than firefox-addons/searchplugins/en-US ?
[20:57] <Boreeas> Is there a command to reload the sound drivers?
[20:57] <NeedSomeHelp> There are no one in #Gimp. Anyone here know Gimp ?
[20:58] <auronandace> Boreeas: checked alsamixer to see if they are muted?
[20:58] <graingert> NeedSomeHelp: yep
[20:59] <the_misfit> How can I see if my current settings support 3D acceleration?
[21:00] <Boreeas> auronandace: I can actually hear some weird feeping/beeping noises, but not really what I'm expecting to hear.
[21:00] <jose> hola
[21:00] <auronandace> jose: /join #ubuntu-es
[21:01] <auronandace> Boreeas: odd
[21:01] <auronandace> !sound | Boreeas
[21:03] <jose> alguien que hable spanish
[21:03] <Boreeas> auronandace: Thank's I'll look into it
[21:03] <Pici> !es | jose
[21:05] <WINODX> GUYS UBUNTU IS FOR FAGS WHO CANT USE REEL COMPUTERS LIKE WINDOWS AND WHO DON HAVE THE MONEY FOR WORD.
[21:05] <NeedSomeHelp> graingert: When I use Text along path and put the text on a black background, I select white fg  colour. But only the border of the text (in green!)  shows up on the path's position. How do I get the text along path white ?
[21:05] <compdoc> REEL COMPUTERS - lol
[21:05] <WINODX> You guys suck.
[21:05] <graingert> NeedSomeHelp: odd
[21:06] <jrib> compdoc: are you not familiar with the movie industry!?
[21:07] <compdoc> sheese - I never realized! I hope I didnt hurt his feelings
[21:08] <graingert> NeedSomeHelp: that's intentional they just add the text to the path
[21:08] <graingert> http://gimp-tutorials.net/gimp-text-to-path-tutorial
[21:09] <Barbarian> btw, lol at how ineffective that troll was
[21:09] <Barbarian> he came, he saw, he got banhammered
[21:10] <daw> hej
[21:10] <Barbarian> o/
[21:10] <Crankygeek> whois mbroker
[21:10] <conntrack> is it a full moon?
[21:12] <charnel> how can I create a shortcut in the launchbar in Ubuntu 11.10 unity I want to have a sh files link in there
[21:14] <geoffmcc> charnel: should just have to drag the file you want in the launcher onto the launcher
[21:15] <biggibbig> Hey!
[21:15] <charnel> geoffmcc, Nope that does not work When I drag the file nothing happens
[21:15] <FerchoLP> why is still Virtualbox 4.1.2 in ubuntu repos while its latest version is on 4.1.6? is it beause it has to pass through debian repos first?
[21:16] <charnel> I am trying to have a link of RubyMine in my launch bar
[21:16] <auronandace> !latest | FerchoLP
[21:16] <jrib> FerchoLP: well that's part of the reason, the other is that once an ubuntu version is released, only updates due to security issues (see !sru) are done
[21:16] <biggibbig> I was told that terminal was in the applications folder, but I can't find it. I'm sorta new to this.
[21:17] <FerchoLP> but still, ubuntu is based on debian testing, right? I thought it was based on stable
[21:17] <biggibbig> Can you guys help me find it?
[21:18] <Barbarian> !ppa
[21:18] <Barbarian> !backport
[21:18] <EvilResistance> Barbarian:  can we help you>?
[21:19] <Barbarian> EvilResistance, read the botpost put up by auronandace and wanted to read a bit more about it
[21:19] <biggibbig> I was told you guys were helpful, but you're not even. I'm going back to nextstep.
[21:19] <EvilResistance> Barbarian:  ah.  use !factoid | target ;P
[21:19] <Myrtti> biggibbig: applications folder?
[21:19] <Myrtti> biggibbig: which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[21:20] <EvilResistance> auronandace:  is there a question about why latest package versions arent in ubuntu or something?
[21:20] <biggibbig> 6.10
[21:20] <Myrtti> biggibbig: well that's a tad old...
[21:20] <EvilResistance> auronandace:  because Ubuntu is only based off of Debian testing / sid during development
[21:20] <biggibbig> My computer's a bit old.
[21:20] <EvilResistance> auronandace:  when they freeze for release preparation, its no longer going to be completely based off of Debian
[21:21] <biggibbig> I think it needs old software.
[21:21] <Myrtti> biggibbig: should be in accessories
[21:21] <Barbarian> biggibbig, doesn't matter that much, 10.04 should work just as well
[21:21] <Myrtti> biggibbig: perhaps you could try latest lubuntu
[21:21] <Barbarian> if not better
[21:21] <auronandace> EvilResistance: sorry, i don't know, i'm not a dev (i just know some factoids)
[21:21] <FerchoLP> xubuntu also works great
[21:21] <EvilResistance> auronandace:  i see.  who was asking for support then about this?
[21:22] <EvilResistance> auronandace:  because i know a decent bit
[21:22] <biggibbig> OH, SORRY, I'M NOT INTO POKEMON.
[21:22] <EvilResistance> also...
[21:22] <Barbarian> ???
[21:22] <biggibbig> TROLOLOLOOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
[21:22] <EvilResistance> Barbarian:  auronandace:  to explore the bot's factoid information, /msg ubottu !factoid
[21:22] <geoffmcc> charnel: you still here?
[21:22] <biggibbig> WHERE'S THE NIGGERS?
[21:22] <auronandace> EvilResistance: FerchoLP i directed the factoid to him
[21:22] <EvilResistance> !ops
[21:22] <EvilResistance> ninja'd by Myrtti :p
[21:22] <Barbarian> Bang, and the dirt is gone :P
[21:23] <weqw> hey I want a program to run when a user logs out, and have it stop when a user logs in
[21:23] <weqw> any ideas?
[21:23] <auronandace> EvilResistance: i'm aware of /msg ubottu thanks (thats how i know quite a few of the factoids)
[21:26] <og01> hi there i'm having a bit of a problem, I have just updated to ubuntu 11.10 on my mediacenter come file storage, I have 5 drives, 1 for boot which is crypted, and 4 in raid 5 (1 spare). after updating after entering the crypt key it boots to the (initramfs) prompt.  It also shows one of my disks from the raid array as 'removed'
[21:27] <FerchoLP> as Ross said, "I don't understand what just happened here"
[21:27] <FerchoLP> haha
[21:28] <og01> Its worth noting that none of the main filesystem is on the raid array - it is purely there for media and other storage.
[21:29] <og01> because the boot drive is encrypted does anyone thing that the upgrade could have got confused - and put the grub install onto the wrong drive or something?
[21:29] <Faint> Would I come here for an Apache2 problem? Or would I visit somewhere else?
[21:29] <Faint> It's on Ubuntu Server, so my first guess was here
[21:29] <EvilResistance> Faint:  depends.  #ubuntu-server, or #httpd
[21:29] <xrandr> ok, im running Ubuntu 11.10 and have a Realtek ALC1200 onboard card. When i look at my sound settings, the hardware doesn't show up
[21:29] <auronandace> Faint: there is also #ubuntu-server but here is fine too
[21:30] <xrandr> yet sound is working
[21:30] <DEAD|VGA> anyone know how to deprioritize a process while a user is logged in?
[21:30] <Faint> I'll ask on #httpd, it's an Apache2 problem
[21:30] <og01> I dont even know where to start in the limited initramfs prompt - how can i see the grub config for example?
[21:30] <xrandr> well, banshee doesn't work
[21:30] <xrandr> but rhythmbox does :)
[21:31] <charnel> geoffmcc, yes I am here still looking for a solution
[21:31] <norbert_> hey all, I've set my X (in Ubuntu GNU/Linux) to 256 colors, in order to play a game in the Basilisk II emulator; now I want to make a screenshot of that Window, but the colors change depending on which windows is active and for some reason the active window is never the Basilisk II window... any ideas on how I could do what I want?
[21:34] <dkarampin> Hello, I installed the recommended nvidia driver as shown here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia  After restart, the desktop looks frozen. I can move the pointer but cannot click and open any window. Any help ?
[21:36] <graingert> dkarampin: odd, what's your card?
[21:37] <og01> can anyone tell me is there a boot log so i can see why its not booting?!
[21:37] <og01> it says its decrypting ok
[21:37] <og01> then just dumps me into the initramfs
[21:39] <graingert> dkarampin: you can disable the nvidia drivers using jockey-text -d <name of driver you enabled>
[21:39] <graingert> eg
[21:40] <dkarampin> graingert: why disable it ? Is there any other workaround ?
[21:40] <graingert> http://paste.ubuntu.com/762103/
[21:41] <graingert> dkarampin: well presumably you want ubuntu to be useable with neuvoux
[21:41] <graingert> neuveau*
[21:42] <graingert> do you know the name of your card, dkarampin
[21:43] <Faint> Well, I tried getting help in #ubuntu-server, but no such luck I guess.
[21:43] <Faint> So I will ask here
[21:43] <graingert> Faint: IC
[21:43] <Faint> I am having a problem where when I start Apache, it stays up for a minute then turns off. I have the only two lines it gives me in apache's error.log right here: http://pastebin.com/vX201fQ6
[21:44] <Faint> This is my last resort, if I can't get this I don't know what I will do. I can't send to #httpd for some reason, #ubuntu-server isn't any help, I tried forurms and even askubuntu only to get unhelpful responses.
[21:45] <og01> this is ridiculas!
[21:45] <og01> no vi in initramfs?
[21:45] <og01> how can i fix anything?
[21:46] <ekinox> hi :)
[21:46] <graingert> Faint: how are you starting apache
[21:46] <graingert> looks like you kill it some point after you launch it
[21:46] <Faint> I type "/etc/init.d/apache2 start"
[21:46] <Faint> And it starts
[21:46] <Faint> And after a minute, it turns off with that error
[21:46] <DEAD|VGA> 'well sir
[21:46] <ekinox> Can I have an Highlight please ? :)
[21:46] <Faint> Well, it gave me that error in apache's error.log
[21:46] <jrib> ekinox: please do that elsewhere :)
[21:46] <DEAD|VGA> is anything else running on port 80 on your box?
[21:46] <graingert> Faint: try sudo service apache2 restart
[21:47] <Faint> No, just Apache
[21:47] <jrib> Faint: note you should use the service command not call those scripts directly
[21:47] <ekinox> thanks, jrib
[21:47] <jrib> !away > N3M_Away
[21:47] <graingert> $ sudo service apache restart
[21:47] <graingert> apache: unrecognized service
[21:47] <graingert> !away > graingert
[21:48] <Faint> Hm, when I restart it says "NameVirtualHost *:80 has no virtual hosts"
[21:48] <Faint> Does that mean anything?
[21:48] <auronandace> og01: vi? don't you mean vim? why not use nano?
[21:48] <og01> auronandace: no nano either!
[21:48] <nrdb> Hi, I have a problem... I have a .desktop with a URL set to http://...  when I click on this it used to open firefox at that page... but now it open gedit with the page source... how do I fix this?
[21:48] <DEAD|VGA> lol
[21:48] <auronandace> og01: oh
[21:49] <og01> This ubuntu upgrade has properly messed up my system
[21:49] <DEAD|VGA> upgrade to debian
[21:49] <og01> DEAD|VGA: probably should
[21:49] <og01> DEAD|VGA: i need to recover this system first though
[21:51] <HQRaja> Guys...I'm using a laptop with a numpad on the right that is supposed to serve as home/end/page-up/page-down too when numlock is off. Now on Windows, it worked fine but on Linux, it works when the shift key isn't pressed but when I need to do shift+home to select text, it registers the home key as the numpad key 7. Is there a way to fix this?
[21:52] <og01> Can anyone tell me how i can findout what the problem is with booting?
[21:52] <xrandr> og01: can you be more specific?
[21:52] <HQRaja> It behaves the same with the other keys on the numpad when shift is pressed...its as if shift is toggling it between numbers and home/end/pgup/pgdn keys
[21:52] <Faint> I think my website is fixed, it's been about a minute and 40 seconds and it's still up
[21:52] <batlock> Well you all will be happy to know that my distro upgrade to 11.10 fixed the jockey bug
[21:52] <og01> as no error is shown - I'm just thrown into the initramfs prompt
[21:52] <og01> xrandr: ^
[21:52] <batlock> AND i have composting
[21:52] <batlock> AND cairo-dock is STILL broken
[21:52] <og01> xrandr: I just updated my system to 11.10 and now it wont boot
[21:53] <xrandr> fun
[21:53] <Faint> Thank you all
[21:53] <xrandr> og01: have you backed up all your personal files?
[21:53] <HQRaja> batlock: Told you, updating to 11.10 will fix a lot of stuff. Though regarding cairo-dock, why don't you give Docky a try?
[21:53] <og01> xrandr: I get past the crypt key page
[21:53] <og01> xrandr: the raid array contains most my useufll stuff and should be recoverable - but no essentaily I want to get to my data
[21:54] <batlock> so has anyone ever had this problem?     I run cairo-dock -o and it appears in the upper left corner of the screen, even though the config has it set to show up on the bottom edge, I hover over the bottom edge and it appears, up in the top left
[21:54] <og01> it should be fairly recoverable
[21:54] <xrandr> og01: how did you upgrade? And have you tried a clean install?
[21:54] <og01> xrandr: I upgraded via the update manager
[21:54] <xrandr> ok
[21:54] <dkarampin> has graingert left ? :S
[21:54] <xrandr> og01: well, you could always do a clean install.
[21:54] <batlock> this is after purging the install, reinstalling, uninstalling, force installing, uninstalling, compiling, uninstalling, etc
[21:54] <og01> xrandr: I want to try to recover data before doint a clean install
[21:55] <batlock> i've deleted files, i've removed all cairo-dock data
[21:55] <batlock> but it still starts with this one error
[21:55] <og01> There is source code - configuration files and tv recordings on the drive
[21:55] <xrandr> og01: well, in your raid, did you create a separate partition for /home ?
[21:55] <jragon> Hi
[21:55] <og01> xrandr: the raid array isnt part of the main filesystem
[21:55] <jragon> Is there a way to block certain applications to the web? Such as spotify?
[21:55] <xrandr> o ok
[21:55] <batlock> anyone a cairo-dock guru?
[21:56] <og01> xrandr: 1 have 1 drive for boot/root and 4 drives that are mounted seperatly and non-critical for boot
[21:56] <xrandr> batlock: what's your question. I used cairo-dock
[21:56] <batlock> so has anyone ever had this problem?     I run cairo-dock -o and it appears in the upper left corner of the screen, even though the config has it set to show up on the bottom edge, I hover over the bottom edge and it appears, up in the top left
[21:56] <mactrent> jragon, Yes, there is.  I'd recommend Gufw to do it for you.
[21:56] <og01> xrandr: the boot drive is crypted
[21:56] <xrandr> og01: oy! Im not sure i can help you there
[21:56] <batlock> no matter how i set the config for it,   cairo-dock still shows up in the upper left corner of the screen
[21:57] <og01> xrandr: it claims to successfully decrypt the drive after a successfull key enty
[21:57] <dkarampin> graingert: 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 GS] [10de:01df] (rev a1)
[21:58] <xrandr> hmmm. i've never used the encrypted drive settings. So im not sure how much help I can be to you
[21:58] <og01> fair enough
[21:58] <og01> i've just found the decrypted partition in /dev/dm-1
[21:58] <dkarampin> graingert: shall I activate the nvidia_173 ?
[21:58] <og01> and i can see the root filesystem
[21:59] <mactrent> jragon, On closer inspection, Gufw doesn't have a preconfigured rule for Spotify, as for Transmission, etc.
[21:59] <jragon> Hmm
[21:59] <jragon> Would there be a way to 'create' a rule for spotify?
[22:00] <og01> has anybody here got any experience with grub/ubuntu/dmcrypt?
[22:01] <graingert> dkarampin: no hang on
[22:01] <mactrent> jragon, I'm not sure.  I'll have to poke around.
[22:01] <jragon> How kind of you MachHare
[22:01] <jragon> gosh damn it
[22:01] <jragon> mactrent**
[22:02] <graingert> dkarampin: hmm your card should work: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia
[22:02] <graingert> what version of ubuntu/
[22:02] <dkarampin> latest, 11.10
[22:02] <batlock> also i'm really digging gnome3
[22:03] <nrdb> Hi, I have a problem... I have a .desktop of "Type=Link" with a "URL=http://..."  when I click on this it used to open firefox at that page... but now it open gedit with the page source... how do I fix this?
[22:03] <Myrtti> batlock: good to hear you're liking it
[22:03] <batlock> now if i can only get cairo-dock sorted out
[22:05] <dkarampin> graingert: any idea ?
[22:06] <batlock> i got a screencap of the issue i'm having with cairo-dock
[22:06] <batlock> http://imgur.com/ceUyl
[22:06] <mactrent> jragon, Not surprisingly, Gufw is a front-end for UFW - looking at manual pages now.
[22:06] <xrandr> how do i set the photo for my user account??
[22:08] <deej1976> xrandr: Settings -> User Accounts
[22:08] <xrandr> deej1976: yeah, went there. no option to do it
[22:08] <benbloom_> is 10G enough space for a / partition (running kubuntu on laptop)
[22:09] <deej1976> xrandr: Unlock then click the Icon next to your name on the Right panel
[22:09] <xrandr> deej1976: did that too. It's currently unlocked
[22:09] <auronandace> benbloom: should be yes
[22:09] <deej1976> xrandr: If you hoover over it, you'll see the little drop down arrow appear
[22:09] <xrandr> deej1976: ah, found the issue
[22:10] <benbloom_> k thanks auronandace
[22:10] <xrandr> deej1976: thanks :L)
[22:10] <deej1976> xrandr: Sorted?
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> xrandr  share it with us, for future reference
[22:11] <xrandr> deej1976: yeah, had to hover over the picture container as u said. I just figured it out before you pressed enter to send your reply :)
[22:11] <deej1976> xrandr: Cool
[22:12] <og01> xrandr: heh strangly just typing 'exit' and I boot
[22:13] <xrandr> og01: nice :P
[22:13] <og01> xrandr: yes - something is wrong though
[22:13] <b0ot> I have webcam-server installed but I'm not able to view my camera over the network. I can view it from localhost:8888 but not from the website any ideas what is wrong?
[22:14] <xrandr> b0ot: firewall exception?
[22:14] <nrdb> Hi, I have a problem... I have a .desktop of "Type=Link" with a "URL=http://..."  when I click on this it used to open firefox at that page... but now it open gedit with the page source... how do I fix this?
[22:14] <og01> xrandr: this system has been updated through many versions i think this is the 4th type i've 'upgraded'
[22:14] <geoffmcc> b0ot: if not firewall possibly port forwarding on the router needs setup
[22:15] <auronandace> og01: i usually fresh install each release (a lot less can go wrong)
[22:15] <b0ot> geoffmcc, the weird thing is I can't even view it on the computer hosting the server
[22:16] <deej1976> b0ot: Can you run nmap against your webcam-server and see if the port is open,closed or filtered
[22:16] <og01> auronandace: for my desktop thats fine - for this mediacenter its a whole lot more work
[22:16] <geoffmcc> b0ot: ok, then it not forwarding then
[22:17] <sskalnik> was the uptrack portion of ksplice ever open-sourced at some point in the past?
[22:17] <b0ot> I get missing plug-in when I switch to chrome
[22:18] <sskalnik> I googled around but did not find anything
[22:20] <geoffmcc> b0ot: try to access it threw mplayer maybe or even vlc if you use
[22:20] <bastidrazor> batlock: what is the issue? its location?
[22:20] <geoffmcc> b0ot: or go looking for a compatable plugin to access it threw browser
[22:21] <auronandace> through
[22:21] <geoffmcc> yea i know, when type fast i make stupid errors
[22:23] <batlock> bastidrazor, yes
[22:23] <batlock> bastidrazor, it's set to be on the bottom edge
[22:23] <batlock> no matter what i pick it's always in the wrong place
[22:24] <batlock> i've tried uninstalling and reinstalling using --purge, i've tried installing from the cairo dock repo, i've tried compiling from scratch,     all of these attempts have included deleting ~/.config/cairo-dock
[22:28] <benbloom> when partitioning for a new install is it better to put the swap first in the partition table or the / first. also, does it cause any performance lag to have both swap and / on the same logical partition?
[22:28] <udonthavetoknow> w
[22:28] <auronandace> benbloom: you mean use a swapfile instead of a swap partition?
[22:29] <benbloom> no auronandace I mean to make a logical partition containing both swap and / within
[22:29] <auronandace> benbloom: you can't really do that, swap is a different filesystem
[22:31] <bastidrazor> batlock: alt + left click and drag it
[22:31] <bastidrazor> batlock: there is also a #cairo-dock channel that will be able to give all the answers
[22:32] <benbloom> sorry. i meant extended not logica
[22:32] <batlock> yea i'm in there
[22:32] <batlock> alt+left click does nothing
[22:32] <HQRaja> A different logical partition in the same extended partition, you meant?
[22:32] <auronandace> benbloom: oh, yeah you can have an extended partition with a logical swap and /
[22:32] <benbloom> yes HQRaja
[22:32] <benbloom> but does it effect performance?
[22:33] <auronandace> benbloom: not that i'm aware of
[22:33] <benbloom> also, does physical location of partitions on the disk effect performance?
[22:33] <auronandace> benbloom: no
[22:34] <benbloom> k. thx
[22:34] <auronandace> benbloom: no worries :)
[22:36] <kiko__> hola
[22:37] <kiko__> #melilla
[22:38] <kiko__> algun español
[22:38] <auronandace> !es | kiko__
[22:39] <ramrebol_> my google-talkplugin stopped working. I do not see the camera symbol (only the green circle next to my name). Somebody can help me?  (it is installed)
[22:39] <kiko__> hola
[22:39] <ramrebol_> hola kiko__ . No soy espanol, pero te puede servir el canal #ubuntu-es
[22:40] <szal> *pueden
[22:41] <pala> hello
[22:41] <wad> In Ubuntu 11.10, the "home folder" app lets me navigate my filesystem. It shows me icons of files. But sometimes the icon isn't enough, I need the list view of that directory, so that I can, say, find the file I want to by date. Is there a way to show a list view?
[22:42] <pala> q
[22:42] <deej1976> wad: try crtl
[22:42] <deej1976> wad: try crtl+2
[22:42]  * wad tries
[22:43] <wad> ctrl+2 works! Thanks!
[22:44] <deej1976> wad: ctrl+1 for normal icons, crtl+3 for small list
[22:44] <firewalker22> hello good folks......wannna be linux power user needs help with setting up network file sharing on ubuntu 11.10 PST if u can helps me
[22:44] <firewalker22> I r having diffultziez
[22:44] <wad> deej1976, yeah, I tried all of those. Very nice. Seems like there would have been some sort of GUI control to also do this.
[22:45] <wad> firewalker22, install samba
[22:45] <ferg> can I get plugins to display video/audio in web-browsers (firefox, rekonq, opera) to work in kubuntu? I have noticed no standard plugins are enabled. the vlc-plugin just is not very convenient...
[22:45] <wad> works great.
[22:45] <firewalker22> my problem is when I  clicks on the sharing option tab that the guest access section is grayed out/
[22:46] <deej1976> wad: used to be a small drop down option on the toolbar, not there now.
[22:47] <firewalker22> I tried to install samba, and while the shares could be seen, it ask for a username and password instead of allowing simple guest access
[22:47] <wad> firewalker22, you need to edit the config file, and turn that off.
[22:49] <firewalker22> I Configured samba with                           guest account = nobody
[22:49] <firewalker22> security = share
[22:50] <MrCleanWithHair> firewalker22, have you tried a samba related channel?
[22:51] <pala> hello
[22:51] <qmanjr5> Does Banshee support adding apps to an iPod?
[22:51] <firewalker22> no, I havent, but I thought that this might be more of a ubuntu issue, it seems 11.10 has a new framework for filesharing, because even with samba uninstalled I can share a folder and make it visible on the network
[22:52] <MrCleanWithHair> try #samba
[22:52] <wad> firewalker22, I'd head over to #samba and ask them. Samba is what you want. :)
[22:52] <firewalker22> but the guest access part is where I am having problems
[22:52] <firewalker22> k, I will give it a try
[22:53] <tabunet> Good evening!
[22:55] <ferg> can someone help me with pointers to enabling video/audio plugins in kubuntu for a virtual drink?
[22:55] <tabunet> Sorry for my little english, I'm from Spain!
[22:56] <tabunet> Yesterday I bought Samsung Galaxy Nexus. the problem is that i need activate MTP protocol on Ubuntu 11.10
[22:56] <qmanjr5> Does Banshee support adding apps to an iPod?
[22:57] <tabunet> Beacause the problem with android devices without SDCard manage MTP
[22:57] <berlinerguy> how do I edit the package manager configuration so that non-admin users can install applications/etc?
[22:57] <tabunet> In Synaptic i have got this pakages installed http://i.imgur.com/AnZcy.png
[22:58] <tabunet> I need to connect my Samsung Galaxy Nexus via MTP like another USB Massive Storage
[22:59] <pala> hello
[23:00] <firewalker22> hello, I am trying to setup a very simple network share on ubuntu, 11.10, using samba, but it is being very difficult. While I can see my network shares, it prompts me for username and password instead of allowing simple guest access.....any advice would be much appreciated
[23:00] <pala> look for install script for icinga 1.5.1
[23:00] <MonkeyDust> !info icinga
[23:00] <roothorick> is it possible to go from natty straight to precise?
[23:01] <deej1976> !samba | firewalker22
[23:03] <kobro> hi
[23:04] <shaullx> i'm having problems with apache/php5, i couldn't access any php files even though it's all installed, so i uninstalled everything
[23:04] <shaullx> but it seems apache is still running
[23:04] <shaullx> and i can still access html files
[23:04] <shaullx> wasn't apt-get remove apache2 enough? x.x
[23:04] <kobro> can someone help me i lost toons of importat data -.-
[23:04] <agentgasmask> Hi all. How can I tell what version of grub is installed (i.e. grub or grub2)?
[23:04] <deej1976> shaullx: sudo service apache2 stop
[23:05] <graingert> kobro: what did you do?
[23:05] <shaullx> i still can't access php files though
[23:05] <shaullx> when i navigate to a php file
[23:06] <shaullx> it downloads it
[23:06] <shaullx> o.o
[23:06] <kobro> see i copy the data to my 1 tb usb 3.0 hard drive and forgot to hang the devic out (Laufwerk sicher aushängen in deutsch) and now all my copyt data are away
[23:06] <qmanjr5> Does Banshee support adding apps to an iPod?
[23:06] <grkblood> how do I get ubuntu to recognize my hp probook webcam?
[23:08] <graingert> kobro: I see, well re do the copy
[23:10] <grkblood> i have cheese opened and virtually everything is blacked out
[23:10] <kobro> the source of the copy is also away
[23:10] <kobro> i realy dont know why
[23:10] <why> Yes?
[23:11] <graingert> kobro: I see, you'll probably have to pay a data recovery firm
[23:11] <graingert> kobro: http://www.krollontrack.com/data-recovery/germany/
[23:11] <Behi> hi all
[23:11] <ferg> what is the best multimedia browser plugin for kubuntu?
[23:11] <Behi> I am trying to connect to SQL Server from ubuntu
[23:12] <graingert> kobro: please tag me if you are replying to me
[23:12] <Behi> I have installed freetds, odbc, etc. but when I try to connect to the server, I get this error message: Bu*: command not found
[23:12] <Behi> any ideas what's wrong?
[23:13] <graingert> Behi: Bu* is not mysql
[23:13] <kobro> graingert: i think i dont have the money to give my hard drine to a service
[23:14] <Behi> graingert I want to connect to SQL Server
[23:14] <graingert> oooh SQL
[23:14] <graingert> hmm,
[23:14] <graingert> Bu* is not the correct command to run
[23:14] <erebel55> hi, I"m having trouble installing ubuntu over a copy of windows 7 on my laptop. I downloaded the .iso and burt to disk, but my laptop is sitting at the ubuntu loading screen for a very long time, the circles are filling orange and then going white..so it appears that it isn't frozen
[23:14] <grkblood> how do i get my integrated laptop webcam to work with ubuntu? all options in cheese are inactive which im presuming means its not registering a webcam
[23:14] <kobro> graingert: thats a lot of pics of me and my friends
[23:14] <graingert> erebel55: press up on the  directional pad
[23:15] <deep> hi
[23:15] <graingert> kobro: there are tools to discover images
[23:15] <deep> i m not really getting is this exactly!
[23:15] <kobro> graingert: i used photo rec
[23:16] <erebel55> graingert: ok, I did so...now I only see a black screen
[23:16] <graingert> kobro: ah did it not work
[23:16] <graingert> kobro: in that case, professionals are probably your best bet
[23:16] <graingert> erebel55: odd, when you checked the disk for errors, were there any?
[23:16] <Behi> graingert I am not even running Bu*
[23:16] <graingert> erebel55: otherwise try the alterantive installer
[23:17] <graingert> Behi: what do you run
[23:17] <kobro> graingert: no it doesnt work for my sd card and it takes houres to run this tool on 1 tb but i am trying atm
[23:17] <erebel55> graingert: I didn't check the disk for errors...and what is the alternative installer?
[23:17] <Behi> graingert tsql -S MyServerIP -p port -U user -P pass
[23:17] <graingert> erebel55: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[23:18] <erebel55> graingert: thank you
[23:18] <graingert> Behi: sounds like a bug in tsql
[23:20] <graingert> kobro: make sure you're not writing to the drive
[23:20] <graingert> kobro: I'd recommend calling the pro's
[23:20] <erebel55> I'm really just trying to install a clean version of windows 7...but when I tried the windows install it also stopped at the beginning, so I was just trying to install ubuntu, and then overwrite ubuntu with windows 7
[23:20] <kobro> graingert: i would call them but i have no money
[23:21] <abtexas130> Hi all
[23:21] <conntrack> little bugger
[23:21] <graingert> kobro: ask for a quote, your friends might want to chip in
[23:21] <RDMonkey> sorry to interrupt but i would like to install Ubuntu along side my Windows 7 Lenovo laptop, but im not sure how
[23:21] <ArveT> erebel55: tried wubi?
[23:21] <graingert> !language | conntrack
[23:21] <kobro> graingert: a part of the data was on a sd card but the card was used again
[23:22] <graingert> ouch
[23:22] <graingert> kobro: if that happened it's probably gone, you can recover from an HDD, SSD is almost impossible
[23:22] <ArveT> RDMonkey try wubi
[23:22] <erebel55> ArveT: well the reason I want to do a clean install of windows 7, is that my current one will not boot, it is very virused
[23:23] <RDMonkey> Excuse me?
[23:23] <graingert> RDMonkey: have you got the CD burnt?
[23:23] <ArveT> I did the same thing have a lenovo and the work great together
[23:23] <RDMonkey> I'm using a USB
[23:23] <graingert> RDMonkey: have you got the LIVE usb running?
[23:23] <klemax> Hello.
[23:23] <klemax> How to find out which device has my USB modem? I mean like /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/usb/SH1 etc..
[23:23] <RDMonkey> yes
[23:23] <ArveT> RDMonkey do u have windows already running?
[23:23] <RDMonkey> im using Ubuntu now
[23:23] <grkblood> how do i get my integrated laptop webcam to work with ubuntu? all options in cheese are inactive which im presuming means its not registering a webcam
[23:23] <graingert> RDMonkey: double click the install icon
[23:23] <graingert> and you should get a "side by side" option
[23:23] <graingert> in the installer
[23:24] <RDMonkey> i don't
[23:24] <erebel55> any ideas on my prob?
[23:24] <graingert> make sure to backup your windows, RDMonkey
[23:24] <graingert> RDMonkey: well it will take a few steps
[23:24] <ArveT> erebel55 sorry misunderstood, my situation was that I have win7 running and installed ubuntu through wubi
[23:24] <RDMonkey> no i mean
[23:24] <RDMonkey> I tried installing already, and i got an error when it was resizing the partition,
[23:24] <graingert> RDMonkey: http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1312973605.png
[23:24] <graingert> RDMonkey: oh I see, what was the error?
[23:25] <RDMonkey> and i went back and it revoked the option to install side by side
[23:25] <graingert> RDMonkey: try resizing the partition in Windows
[23:25] <[IFOC]75> actually, RD... wasn't it the other way around?
[23:25] <RDMonkey> I'm not sure how
[23:25] <[IFOC]75> you had an error in alongside
[23:25] <RDMonkey> Yes
[23:25] <graingert> RDMonkey: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/resize-a-partition-for-free-in-windows-vista/
[23:25] <RDMonkey> I use windows 7 but k :P
[23:25] <graingert> RDMonkey: then you can install to the free space
[23:26] <graingert> "Resize a Partition for Free in Windows 7 or Vista"
[23:26] <graingert> "install to largest free space"
[23:26] <graingert> I think
[23:27] <MSK> how to contribute an application to ubuntu?
[23:28] <mediat0r> hi. I have a SysV init script. Is the approriate place for that script /etc/init.d/?
[23:30] <frogonwheels> mediat0r: yep.
[23:30] <illio> The internal webcam in my laptop is apparently unavailable as a resource on startup.. is there some way to check which software is blocking it and release their lock on the resource?
[23:30] <mediat0r> thanks frogonwheels
[23:31] <escott> illio, do you have a way to make the webcam work?
[23:31] <frogonwheels> mediat0r: you'll then need to get it activated for a run-level. I forget how that's done in ubuntu
[23:31] <matin> hello
[23:31] <matin> hi Flannel
[23:31] <illio> escott, normally it would work fine in any normal tool like cheese. However it suddenly stopped working today, so I'm guessing it's something I've installed.
[23:32] <illio> escott, I found out it was busy using guvcview
[23:32] <frogonwheels> mediat0r: update-rc.d  looks promising - probably parses something in the init script
[23:33] <escott> illio, so when you run guvcview it tells you "device or resource busy"?
[23:33] <escott> illio, you can run lsof on the device file
[23:33] <illio> escott, it tells me Resource temporarily unavailable
[23:33] <mediat0r> frogonwheels: yeah that's exactly the command I thought. update-rc.d <script name> defaults or something like that
[23:33] <illio> escott, yeah - no output from lsof
[23:34] <frogonwheels> mediat0r: better off putting it in the script itself..  man insserv   looks like the place for the format
[23:34] <mediat0r> frogonwheels: thanks.
[23:35] <escott> illio, its unlikely something has the device open, but it might have been put in a weird power state that it cant get out of. have you done a cold reboot?
[23:35] <Guest91278> teste
[23:36] <illio> escott, as in shut down and start again? Then no, just a normal reboot.. Maybe I should try that
[23:36] <escott> illio, i would give it a try
[23:36] <illio> escott, okay I'll try.. thanks
[23:36] <ApogeU> teste
[23:37] <thornhillstaff> how do I block facebook on any given computer?
[23:37] <stepnjump> what is a good iso packer on ubuntu?
[23:38] <Steak> hey, I'm trying to install memtest86 to a USB key, and in the instructions, it says "use the base device the device is assigned to"
[23:38] <Steak> I put a USB stick in, that says "OCZ Diesel", which is obviously not the base device, how can I determine the base?
[23:38] <escott> thornhillstaff, what is your goal in blocking? you dont like facebook and dont want your traffic to go to them, or you are trying to stop someone else?
[23:39] <thornhillstaff> escott: I want to prevent anyone using this computer from going to facebook.
[23:40] <rhelmer> thornhillstaff: could make an entry in /etc/hosts for facebook.com pointing to the local IP (or whatever IP you want)
[23:40] <escott> thornhillstaff, thats substantially harder. you would have to use some kind of ip filtering, but facebook has a *lot* of ips. the /etc/hosts wont prevent someone from typing the ip address into the url bar
[23:40] <rhelmer> true
[23:41] <frogonwheels> thornhillstaff: that kind of thing can be done with a transparent web proxy
[23:41] <thornhillstaff> iptables?
[23:41] <matin> hey
[23:41] <toddnine> Any ideas why google chrome doesn't appear in the list of browsers to make my default browser?
[23:41] <matin> can someone help me with an ftp problem?
[23:41] <toddnine> matin: I can try, what's up/
[23:41] <escott> thornhillstaff, you could do it with iptables. the more important thing is how much effort you want to put into this vs how much effort you expect your adversary to put into circumventing
[23:42] <matin> toddnine, i had my FTP server working
[23:42] <matin> for the past few days
[23:42] <matin> but last night, i set up svn
[23:42] <digikwondo> wondo> hello. been using ubuntu for some time now and i love it! although today i encounted a strange issue. i dont get any sound from my built in line out (its a "studio" laptop)  i booted from a ubuntu live cd and then i get sound. im clueless ;)
[23:42] <matin> so I'm not sure if that affected it, however now whenever i try to upload something, i get an error in FileZilla, 553
[23:43] <escott> thornhillstaff, the way big companies do this is to force all http, https traffic through a proxy, and then subscribe to a service that provides filter lists
[23:43] <thornhillstaff> escott: will this script worK? how do I implement it? http://kdn2.info/2010/11/block-facebook-com-with-iptables/
[23:43] <toddnine> matin: http://kb.globalscape.com/KnowledgebaseArticle10142.aspx
[23:44] <frogonwheels> thornhillstaff: Assuming the ip ranges are correct, you just need to get that run from your firewall software
[23:44] <toddnine> thornhillstaff: You might, but I doubt it'll get you much.  FB used geo-dns, and they're constantly adding/removing load balancer IP's.  You'd be in a game of cat and mouse
[23:44] <escott> thornhillstaff, *if* that is a complete list of facebook ip addresses then i think that would work
[23:44] <toddnine> as escott says, you really need a proxy that checks the target domain name
[23:45] <frogonwheels> thornhillstaff: oh - this is would be done on the FIREWALL only.
[23:45] <matin> alright thanks toddnine
[23:45] <toddnine> no worries mate
[23:45] <frogonwheels> thornhillstaff:  http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html
[23:45] <frogonwheels> thornhillstaff: the fun that can be had with squid  :)
[23:47] <escott> digikwondo, probably an issue with pin output on intel hda sound. lsmod | grep hda if that outputs snd_hda_intel then you have intel hda sound
[23:50] <roy57>  /whois roy57
[23:51] <matin> hey toddnine
[23:51] <matin> I'm having more trouble :P
[23:51] <escott> digikwondo, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA
[23:51] <toddnine> sure, what's up?
[23:51] <matin> toddnine, ok so i uploaded once, and now i can't even delete anything
[23:51] <matin> i think it's a permissions problem
[23:51] <toddnine> martin:  Sounds like a permissions problem
[23:51] <matin> but I'm new to linux and i have no idea what I'm doing :P
[23:52] <escott> digikwondo, these things sometimes get cleared up over a period of time, but you can help it along by figuring out what the correct pin output for your device is and forwarding it to a developer
[23:52] <toddnine> yeah, do you absolutely have to use ftp, or can you use something like ssh/scp/sftp?
[23:52] <worstadmin> Can I have two hosts mount the same iscsi lun?
[23:52] <worstadmin> And simultaneously use it as well? They dont seem to sync changes between each other
[23:52] <toddnine> For my 2 cents, using sftp (which is ssh based) is much more secure, more robust, and a hell of a lot easier to use than ftp
[23:53] <Mars11_> Okay, I have this flash drive that shows up as two separate drives when inserted. It's not one of Sandisk's U3 drives.
[23:53] <Mars11_> I was wondering if anyone knew how to combine the two?
[23:53] <escott> worstadmin, as long as they arent hitting the same part of the disk it should be ok, but you have to be careful that your virtual hosts arent trying to access the same partition directly
[23:53] <skegeek> Can I get some advice for optimizing my system for performance as a VirtualBox Guest? I've given the system 512MB RAM, 64MB Video/Graphics memory. It is the latest version of Ubuntu with Gnome.
[23:54] <digikwondo> escott: omg i cant belive it was so simple! , some time during today i managed to hit "m" in alsamixer. everything was just muted! i cant belive i switched my harddrive for this!
[23:54] <Ahmuck> !dvd
[23:54] <worstadmin> escott, So if I want more than one host to access the same logical volume - do I make a different lun pointing at the the same lv for them?
[23:54] <Ahmuck> !libdvdcss
[23:54] <escott> digikwondo, well thats good
[23:54] <matin> toddnine, it's a home server
[23:54] <matin> and i have no idea how to set up … anything :D
[23:55] <matin> so i guess i'll just stick with ftp
[23:55] <toddnine> matin: In that case I'd learn how to set up ssh
[23:55] <matin> i have ssh set up
[23:55] <toddnine> It's more secure, and that's what you'll want to use to transfer data anyway
[23:55] <toddnine> ok, then in that case you can use sftp
[23:55] <digikwondo> escott: thanks for the help! guys like you is the reason i switched from ms 3 years ago  :)
[23:55] <matin> ah cool beans
[23:55] <matin> toddnine, how do i do that
[23:55] <toddnine> just get a client that supports sftp, and use the sftp protocol on port 22
[23:55] <toddnine> use the same username and password for ssh, and you'll be done
[23:55] <escott> worstadmin, thats a bit beyond me, but as long as its different partitions they arent sending conflicting writes that could mess up the filesystem
[23:56] <matin> oh sweet
[23:56] <Mars11_> Oh, and one of the drives is read-only.
[23:56] <worstadmin> Hm, So I guess iscsi isn't really made for file sharing so to speak and instead just issuing out disk space
[23:56] <worstadmin> That makes sense
[23:56] <matin> ok
[23:56] <matin> it says permission denied
[23:57] <escott> worstadmin, im sorry i thought you were talking about virtualizing access to a raw disk on a vm. i dont know anything about isci
[23:58] <worstadmin> oh :(
[23:58] <escott> worstadmin, http://www.snsforums.com/index.php?showtopic=397