/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/12/07/#ubuntu-locoteams.txt

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ianmcorvidae4h?04:07
ianmcorvidae<ignore, sorry>04:07
dholbachgood morning07:54
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YoBoYbonjour09:46
locodir-userhey friends11:30
locodir-userboston here11:30
locodir-useror should he say mason11:31
locodir-useras in stone11:31
locodir-userany anons ?11:32
czajkowskilocodir-user: hi11:33
locodir-userhi11:34
czajkowskilocodir-user: so where are you based?11:35
locodir-user boston ...u/11:35
czajkowskiLondon11:35
locodir-useragh what do you think about the crown11:36
locodir-userand all there money?11:36
czajkowskidont really give it a thought to be honest. 11:36
locodir-userand why not dont you see there trying to BUY the world and all its inhabitants11:37
czajkowskilocodir-user: possibly not the best topic for in here to be honest11:38
locodir-userw why not????11:39
locodir-useroh yeah micheal savage was banned from uk.. right11:40
czajkowskiit's not really appropiate given we have people from all over the world11:40
locodir-userso do we11:40
locodir-user_im back11:44
locodir-user_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4fWN6VvgKQ11:44
locodir-user_nice song huh11:45
* locodir-user_ is drunk11:46
locodir-user_I play bridge all over the world11:46
nigelbo_O11:48
locodir-user_hi11:48
locodir-user_im in boston where r u?11:49
locodir-user_gotta go corner store smokes brb11:51
locodir-user_theres a cheap prick across the hall closet fag im sure11:53
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locodir-user_$9.00 pack of smokes hoy motha of fuckin heaven.12:01
locodir-user_what time is it in London 12:01
Tm_Tlocodir-user_: language, please12:03
locodir-user_internet eticut protocol in london htf did you ping me/12:04
locodir-user_jay carney on morning joe12:05
locodir-user_he is wh press secratary12:05
locodir-user_methinks irc very cool12:06
locodir-user_shhh.12:12
paultaglocodir-user_: I'm in boston too12:14
paultagand as you know, it's 7, so I'm leaving for work12:14
locodir-user_Barac Obama makes speech at high school ..liken it to one of teddy's12:14
locodir-user_have a good day friend12:14
paultaglocodir-user_: where in Boston are you?12:15
locodir-user_actually marshfield12:15
paultagAh12:15
locodir-user_u?12:15
locodir-user_back bay12:15
paultaglocodir-user_: been moving a lot, but it's been charlestown12:15
paultagalright, brb12:15
locodir-user_what r u doing in uk chatroom?12:18
locodir-user_I got a wicked headache any of yous got an aspirin?12:19
czajkowskilocodir-user_: it's not a UK chat room, it's #ubuntu-locoteams, a place for teams all over the world to join. 12:19
locodir-user_oh12:19
locodir-user_what teams/12:19
czajkowskihttp://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/12:20
locodir-user_ty12:20
locodir-user_oh soccer12:20
czajkowskilocodir-user_: how did you find this channel ?12:20
locodir-user_???????12:21
czajkowskilocodir-user_: if you don't know about locoteams, I just wondered how you found this place ?12:21
locodir-user_just mlearning irc thats all12:21
locodir-user_thinking about pdf's12:22
locodir-user_im abit loopy you know12:22
locodir-user_AND VERY VERY F'N ANGRY12:22
czajkowskilocodir-user_: please mind your language 12:23
locodir-user_didnt sware12:23
locodir-user_thers like 50 people lurking y aren'y they talking/12:24
locodir-user_?12:25
czajkowskilocodir-user_: different timezones12:25
locodir-user_oh12:25
locodir-user_ny time zone is infinit u know.12:26
locodir-user_hm someone set up a nice irc12:27
locodir-user_t boon pickens on morning joe12:28
locodir-user_cya sorry to bother you my drunkeness appologies12:29
paultagthe hell13:13
paultagthe interesting this is c-98-229-81-26.hsd1.me.comcast.net/98.229.81.26 <- look like Maine13:30
paultaglooks *13:30
mhall119paultag: morning13:51
paultagmoin mhall119 13:51
paultagmhall119: what's good14:12
paultagalso, does anyone know if python will treat '\ ' as a space??14:13
paultag/??/?14:13
paultagguessing no14:15
mhall119paultag: I don't think so, no14:25
mhall119you don't need to escape spaces in python strings14:25
JanCpaultag: """Unlike Standard C, all unrecognized escape sequences are left in the string unchanged, i.e., the backslash is left in the string.""" (from the Python language spec ;) )15:49
paultaggrr15:49
paultagJanC: thanks, I hacked around it after some time on the terminal15:49
paultagmakes things less readable, but meh :)15:50
JanChttp://docs.python.org/py3k/reference/lexical_analysis.html#string-and-bytes-literals15:50
paultagJanC: I needed to fix a bug since my input file was space-seperated 15:50
paultagJanC: nah, it's OK. Thanks :) I just hacked around it15:50
paultaghttps://github.com/paultag/dog/blob/master/share/colors/control/states <- this unholy mess is my state-machine input file 15:51
JanCpaultag: reading the Python language reference is very interesting nevertheless, so if you have nothing to do some day...  ☺15:52
paultagJanC: thumbs-up! :)15:52
mhall119nothing like curling up on the couch with the Python language reference for a little indulgent light reading15:53
JanC(I am one of those crazy people who love reading language specs & other manuals front-to-back :P )15:53
paultag+115:53
paultagit prevents abuses15:54
mhall119or at least explains it15:54
mhall119reading the Java spec on the string table makes for particularly interesting party conversation15:55
JanCmhall119: wait until you read the C++ spec  ;)15:56
paultagso hot15:56
mhall119heh15:56
mhall119if you're into horror, then you can read the actual Django code15:56
paultagyou can finally not explain what a virtual constructor is! 15:56
paultag(since you should't be able to do it, but the gcc authors figured, what the shit)15:56
mhall119lol15:57
paultagvirtual distructors are the new hotness, though15:57
paultagdestructors *15:57
JanCmhall119: I on ce wrote a little patch for Django, and I didn't think the code was too bad, but some parts of it are quite complex indeed15:57
mhall119kind of the opposite of Java destructors15:57
paultagmhall119: well, java baked that in15:57
mhall119JanC: it's more a matter of the amount of magic the employ15:57
mhall119paultag: yeah, but you're not supposed to use them15:58
paultagmhall119: sure you are15:58
JanCmost of the magic was removed actually  ;)15:58
mhall119JanC: oh? when?  I haven't dug around in >= 1.315:58
paultagmhall119: so if you have Poodle (-> Dog) and Shitzu (->Dog), and you have an array of a few `Dogs' somewhere, and you delete one of them (Dog * d = foo[0]; delete d;), it'd only call the Dog deconstructor, not Poodle / Shitzu's15:58
paultagmhall119: unless you throw them up on the vtable15:58
paultagwhich means you need a virtual destructor15:58
JanCmhall119: I'm talking pre-1.0  ;)15:58
paultagwhereas that's normal java destructor behavior15:59
paultagdawg15:59
paultag(see what I did there?)15:59
mhall119paultag: you're talking C?15:59
mhall119or Java15:59
paultagmhall119: C++15:59
paultagC++ vs Java15:59
paultagc don't have no destructors15:59
mhall119right, I meant in Java you're discouraged from using destructors15:59
paultagthat's just not true15:59
paultagclosing files and such?16:00
JanCeven Stroustrup says he doesn't know/understand all of C++, and he invented it...  :P16:00
paultagJanC++16:00
JanCnot to mention the fact that you need > 1000 pages to explain all the "basic" stuff16:00
mhall119paultag: you're supposed to do that with try/finally blocks16:01
paultagJanC: all those "learn c++ in 14 days" books are crap :)16:01
paultagmhall119: what if you open a file in the constructor?16:01
mhall119otherwise the gc closes them when they lose all references16:01
paultagmhall119: you r/w in the methods16:01
JanCpaultag: well, the C++ you learn in those is probably a safe subset  ;)16:01
paultagJanC: ;)16:01
paultagor sockets16:02
paultagthat's a big one16:02
paultagkinda, I guess16:02
paultagyou should .close(), I guess16:02
paultagstill, I stand by ~ClassName();16:02
paultaghttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/171952/is-there-a-destructor-for-java16:03
paultaghumm, interesting16:03
JanCPython has a nice "with" statement for this :-)16:07
dscasselJava 7 is introducing an AutoCloseable interface for automatically closing resources created in a try statement.16:08
dscassel(in case of exception)16:08

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