[04:07] <ianmcorvidae> 4h?
[04:07] <ianmcorvidae> <ignore, sorry>
[07:54] <dholbach> good morning
[09:46] <YoBoY> bonjour
[11:30] <locodir-user> hey friends
[11:30] <locodir-user> boston here
[11:31] <locodir-user> or should he say mason
[11:31] <locodir-user> as in stone
[11:32] <locodir-user> any anons ?
[11:33] <czajkowski> locodir-user: hi
[11:34] <locodir-user> hi
[11:35] <czajkowski> locodir-user: so where are you based?
[11:35] <locodir-user>  boston ...u/
[11:35] <czajkowski> London
[11:36] <locodir-user> agh what do you think about the crown
[11:36] <locodir-user> and all there money?
[11:36] <czajkowski> dont really give it a thought to be honest. 
[11:37] <locodir-user> and why not dont you see there trying to BUY the world and all its inhabitants
[11:38] <czajkowski> locodir-user: possibly not the best topic for in here to be honest
[11:39] <locodir-user> w why not????
[11:40] <locodir-user> oh yeah micheal savage was banned from uk.. right
[11:40] <czajkowski> it's not really appropiate given we have people from all over the world
[11:40] <locodir-user> so do we
[11:44] <locodir-user_> im back
[11:44] <locodir-user_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4fWN6VvgKQ
[11:45] <locodir-user_> nice song huh
[11:46]  * locodir-user_ is drunk
[11:46] <locodir-user_> I play bridge all over the world
[11:48] <nigelb> o_O
[11:48] <locodir-user_> hi
[11:49] <locodir-user_> im in boston where r u?
[11:51] <locodir-user_> gotta go corner store smokes brb
[11:53] <locodir-user_> theres a cheap prick across the hall closet fag im sure
[12:01] <locodir-user_> $9.00 pack of smokes hoy motha of fuckin heaven.
[12:01] <locodir-user_> what time is it in London 
[12:03] <Tm_T> locodir-user_: language, please
[12:04] <locodir-user_> internet eticut protocol in london htf did you ping me/
[12:05] <locodir-user_> jay carney on morning joe
[12:05] <locodir-user_> he is wh press secratary
[12:06] <locodir-user_> methinks irc very cool
[12:12] <locodir-user_> shhh.
[12:14] <paultag> locodir-user_: I'm in boston too
[12:14] <paultag> and as you know, it's 7, so I'm leaving for work
[12:14] <locodir-user_> Barac Obama makes speech at high school ..liken it to one of teddy's
[12:14] <locodir-user_> have a good day friend
[12:15] <paultag> locodir-user_: where in Boston are you?
[12:15] <locodir-user_> actually marshfield
[12:15] <paultag> Ah
[12:15] <locodir-user_> u?
[12:15] <locodir-user_> back bay
[12:15] <paultag> locodir-user_: been moving a lot, but it's been charlestown
[12:15] <paultag> alright, brb
[12:18] <locodir-user_> what r u doing in uk chatroom?
[12:19] <locodir-user_> I got a wicked headache any of yous got an aspirin?
[12:19] <czajkowski> locodir-user_: it's not a UK chat room, it's #ubuntu-locoteams, a place for teams all over the world to join. 
[12:19] <locodir-user_> oh
[12:19] <locodir-user_> what teams/
[12:20] <czajkowski> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/
[12:20] <locodir-user_> ty
[12:20] <locodir-user_> oh soccer
[12:20] <czajkowski> locodir-user_: how did you find this channel ?
[12:21] <locodir-user_> ???????
[12:21] <czajkowski> locodir-user_: if you don't know about locoteams, I just wondered how you found this place ?
[12:21] <locodir-user_> just mlearning irc thats all
[12:22] <locodir-user_> thinking about pdf's
[12:22] <locodir-user_> im abit loopy you know
[12:22] <locodir-user_> AND VERY VERY F'N ANGRY
[12:23] <czajkowski> locodir-user_: please mind your language 
[12:23] <locodir-user_> didnt sware
[12:24] <locodir-user_> thers like 50 people lurking y aren'y they talking/
[12:25] <locodir-user_> ?
[12:25] <czajkowski> locodir-user_: different timezones
[12:25] <locodir-user_> oh
[12:26] <locodir-user_> ny time zone is infinit u know.
[12:27] <locodir-user_> hm someone set up a nice irc
[12:28] <locodir-user_> t boon pickens on morning joe
[12:29] <locodir-user_> cya sorry to bother you my drunkeness appologies
[13:13] <paultag> the hell
[13:30] <paultag> the interesting this is c-98-229-81-26.hsd1.me.comcast.net/98.229.81.26 <- look like Maine
[13:30] <paultag> looks *
[13:51] <mhall119> paultag: morning
[13:51] <paultag> moin mhall119 
[14:12] <paultag> mhall119: what's good
[14:13] <paultag> also, does anyone know if python will treat '\ ' as a space??
[14:13] <paultag> /??/?
[14:15] <paultag> guessing no
[14:25] <mhall119> paultag: I don't think so, no
[14:25] <mhall119> you don't need to escape spaces in python strings
[15:49] <JanC> paultag: """Unlike Standard C, all unrecognized escape sequences are left in the string unchanged, i.e., the backslash is left in the string.""" (from the Python language spec ;) )
[15:49] <paultag> grr
[15:49] <paultag> JanC: thanks, I hacked around it after some time on the terminal
[15:50] <paultag> makes things less readable, but meh :)
[15:50] <JanC> http://docs.python.org/py3k/reference/lexical_analysis.html#string-and-bytes-literals
[15:50] <paultag> JanC: I needed to fix a bug since my input file was space-seperated 
[15:50] <paultag> JanC: nah, it's OK. Thanks :) I just hacked around it
[15:51] <paultag> https://github.com/paultag/dog/blob/master/share/colors/control/states <- this unholy mess is my state-machine input file 
[15:52] <JanC> paultag: reading the Python language reference is very interesting nevertheless, so if you have nothing to do some day...  ☺
[15:52] <paultag> JanC: thumbs-up! :)
[15:53] <mhall119> nothing like curling up on the couch with the Python language reference for a little indulgent light reading
[15:53] <JanC> (I am one of those crazy people who love reading language specs & other manuals front-to-back :P )
[15:53] <paultag> +1
[15:54] <paultag> it prevents abuses
[15:54] <mhall119> or at least explains it
[15:55] <mhall119> reading the Java spec on the string table makes for particularly interesting party conversation
[15:56] <JanC> mhall119: wait until you read the C++ spec  ;)
[15:56] <paultag> so hot
[15:56] <mhall119> heh
[15:56] <mhall119> if you're into horror, then you can read the actual Django code
[15:56] <paultag> you can finally not explain what a virtual constructor is! 
[15:56] <paultag> (since you should't be able to do it, but the gcc authors figured, what the shit)
[15:57] <mhall119> lol
[15:57] <paultag> virtual distructors are the new hotness, though
[15:57] <paultag> destructors *
[15:57] <JanC> mhall119: I on ce wrote a little patch for Django, and I didn't think the code was too bad, but some parts of it are quite complex indeed
[15:57] <mhall119> kind of the opposite of Java destructors
[15:57] <paultag> mhall119: well, java baked that in
[15:57] <mhall119> JanC: it's more a matter of the amount of magic the employ
[15:58] <mhall119> paultag: yeah, but you're not supposed to use them
[15:58] <paultag> mhall119: sure you are
[15:58] <JanC> most of the magic was removed actually  ;)
[15:58] <mhall119> JanC: oh? when?  I haven't dug around in >= 1.3
[15:58] <paultag> mhall119: so if you have Poodle (-> Dog) and Shitzu (->Dog), and you have an array of a few `Dogs' somewhere, and you delete one of them (Dog * d = foo[0]; delete d;), it'd only call the Dog deconstructor, not Poodle / Shitzu's
[15:58] <paultag> mhall119: unless you throw them up on the vtable
[15:58] <paultag> which means you need a virtual destructor
[15:58] <JanC> mhall119: I'm talking pre-1.0  ;)
[15:59] <paultag> whereas that's normal java destructor behavior
[15:59] <paultag> dawg
[15:59] <paultag> (see what I did there?)
[15:59] <mhall119> paultag: you're talking C?
[15:59] <mhall119> or Java
[15:59] <paultag> mhall119: C++
[15:59] <paultag> C++ vs Java
[15:59] <paultag> c don't have no destructors
[15:59] <mhall119> right, I meant in Java you're discouraged from using destructors
[15:59] <paultag> that's just not true
[16:00] <paultag> closing files and such?
[16:00] <JanC> even Stroustrup says he doesn't know/understand all of C++, and he invented it...  :P
[16:00] <paultag> JanC++
[16:00] <JanC> not to mention the fact that you need > 1000 pages to explain all the "basic" stuff
[16:01] <mhall119> paultag: you're supposed to do that with try/finally blocks
[16:01] <paultag> JanC: all those "learn c++ in 14 days" books are crap :)
[16:01] <paultag> mhall119: what if you open a file in the constructor?
[16:01] <mhall119> otherwise the gc closes them when they lose all references
[16:01] <paultag> mhall119: you r/w in the methods
[16:01] <JanC> paultag: well, the C++ you learn in those is probably a safe subset  ;)
[16:01] <paultag> JanC: ;)
[16:02] <paultag> or sockets
[16:02] <paultag> that's a big one
[16:02] <paultag> kinda, I guess
[16:02] <paultag> you should .close(), I guess
[16:02] <paultag> still, I stand by ~ClassName();
[16:03] <paultag> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/171952/is-there-a-destructor-for-java
[16:03] <paultag> humm, interesting
[16:07] <JanC> Python has a nice "with" statement for this :-)
[16:08] <dscassel> Java 7 is introducing an AutoCloseable interface for automatically closing resources created in a try statement.
[16:08] <dscassel> (in case of exception)