=== keffie_jayx is now known as effie_jayx [04:07] 4h? [04:07] [07:54] good morning === Gwaihir_ is now known as Gwaihir === Gwaihir is now known as Guest86060 [09:46] bonjour [11:30] hey friends [11:30] boston here [11:31] or should he say mason [11:31] as in stone [11:32] any anons ? [11:33] locodir-user: hi [11:34] hi [11:35] locodir-user: so where are you based? [11:35] boston ...u/ [11:35] London [11:36] agh what do you think about the crown [11:36] and all there money? [11:36] dont really give it a thought to be honest. [11:37] and why not dont you see there trying to BUY the world and all its inhabitants [11:38] locodir-user: possibly not the best topic for in here to be honest [11:39] w why not???? [11:40] oh yeah micheal savage was banned from uk.. right [11:40] it's not really appropiate given we have people from all over the world [11:40] so do we [11:44] im back [11:44] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4fWN6VvgKQ [11:45] nice song huh [11:46] * locodir-user_ is drunk [11:46] I play bridge all over the world [11:48] o_O [11:48] hi [11:49] im in boston where r u? [11:51] gotta go corner store smokes brb [11:53] theres a cheap prick across the hall closet fag im sure === LjL is now known as Matt === Matt is now known as LjL [12:01] $9.00 pack of smokes hoy motha of fuckin heaven. [12:01] what time is it in London [12:03] locodir-user_: language, please [12:04] internet eticut protocol in london htf did you ping me/ [12:05] jay carney on morning joe [12:05] he is wh press secratary [12:06] methinks irc very cool [12:12] shhh. [12:14] locodir-user_: I'm in boston too [12:14] and as you know, it's 7, so I'm leaving for work [12:14] Barac Obama makes speech at high school ..liken it to one of teddy's [12:14] have a good day friend [12:15] locodir-user_: where in Boston are you? [12:15] actually marshfield [12:15] Ah [12:15] u? [12:15] back bay [12:15] locodir-user_: been moving a lot, but it's been charlestown [12:15] alright, brb [12:18] what r u doing in uk chatroom? [12:19] I got a wicked headache any of yous got an aspirin? [12:19] locodir-user_: it's not a UK chat room, it's #ubuntu-locoteams, a place for teams all over the world to join. [12:19] oh [12:19] what teams/ [12:20] http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ [12:20] ty [12:20] oh soccer [12:20] locodir-user_: how did you find this channel ? [12:21] ??????? [12:21] locodir-user_: if you don't know about locoteams, I just wondered how you found this place ? [12:21] just mlearning irc thats all [12:22] thinking about pdf's [12:22] im abit loopy you know [12:22] AND VERY VERY F'N ANGRY [12:23] locodir-user_: please mind your language [12:23] didnt sware [12:24] thers like 50 people lurking y aren'y they talking/ [12:25] ? [12:25] locodir-user_: different timezones [12:25] oh [12:26] ny time zone is infinit u know. [12:27] hm someone set up a nice irc [12:28] t boon pickens on morning joe [12:29] cya sorry to bother you my drunkeness appologies [13:13] the hell [13:30] the interesting this is c-98-229-81-26.hsd1.me.comcast.net/98.229.81.26 <- look like Maine [13:30] looks * [13:51] paultag: morning [13:51] moin mhall119 [14:12] mhall119: what's good [14:13] also, does anyone know if python will treat '\ ' as a space?? [14:13] /??/? [14:15] guessing no [14:25] paultag: I don't think so, no [14:25] you don't need to escape spaces in python strings [15:49] paultag: """Unlike Standard C, all unrecognized escape sequences are left in the string unchanged, i.e., the backslash is left in the string.""" (from the Python language spec ;) ) [15:49] grr [15:49] JanC: thanks, I hacked around it after some time on the terminal [15:50] makes things less readable, but meh :) [15:50] http://docs.python.org/py3k/reference/lexical_analysis.html#string-and-bytes-literals [15:50] JanC: I needed to fix a bug since my input file was space-seperated [15:50] JanC: nah, it's OK. Thanks :) I just hacked around it [15:51] https://github.com/paultag/dog/blob/master/share/colors/control/states <- this unholy mess is my state-machine input file [15:52] paultag: reading the Python language reference is very interesting nevertheless, so if you have nothing to do some day... ☺ [15:52] JanC: thumbs-up! :) [15:53] nothing like curling up on the couch with the Python language reference for a little indulgent light reading [15:53] (I am one of those crazy people who love reading language specs & other manuals front-to-back :P ) [15:53] +1 [15:54] it prevents abuses [15:54] or at least explains it [15:55] reading the Java spec on the string table makes for particularly interesting party conversation [15:56] mhall119: wait until you read the C++ spec ;) [15:56] so hot [15:56] heh [15:56] if you're into horror, then you can read the actual Django code [15:56] you can finally not explain what a virtual constructor is! [15:56] (since you should't be able to do it, but the gcc authors figured, what the shit) [15:57] lol [15:57] virtual distructors are the new hotness, though [15:57] destructors * [15:57] mhall119: I on ce wrote a little patch for Django, and I didn't think the code was too bad, but some parts of it are quite complex indeed [15:57] kind of the opposite of Java destructors [15:57] mhall119: well, java baked that in [15:57] JanC: it's more a matter of the amount of magic the employ [15:58] paultag: yeah, but you're not supposed to use them [15:58] mhall119: sure you are [15:58] most of the magic was removed actually ;) [15:58] JanC: oh? when? I haven't dug around in >= 1.3 [15:58] mhall119: so if you have Poodle (-> Dog) and Shitzu (->Dog), and you have an array of a few `Dogs' somewhere, and you delete one of them (Dog * d = foo[0]; delete d;), it'd only call the Dog deconstructor, not Poodle / Shitzu's [15:58] mhall119: unless you throw them up on the vtable [15:58] which means you need a virtual destructor [15:58] mhall119: I'm talking pre-1.0 ;) [15:59] whereas that's normal java destructor behavior [15:59] dawg [15:59] (see what I did there?) [15:59] paultag: you're talking C? [15:59] or Java [15:59] mhall119: C++ [15:59] C++ vs Java [15:59] c don't have no destructors [15:59] right, I meant in Java you're discouraged from using destructors [15:59] that's just not true [16:00] closing files and such? [16:00] even Stroustrup says he doesn't know/understand all of C++, and he invented it... :P [16:00] JanC++ [16:00] not to mention the fact that you need > 1000 pages to explain all the "basic" stuff [16:01] paultag: you're supposed to do that with try/finally blocks [16:01] JanC: all those "learn c++ in 14 days" books are crap :) [16:01] mhall119: what if you open a file in the constructor? [16:01] otherwise the gc closes them when they lose all references [16:01] mhall119: you r/w in the methods [16:01] paultag: well, the C++ you learn in those is probably a safe subset ;) [16:01] JanC: ;) [16:02] or sockets [16:02] that's a big one [16:02] kinda, I guess [16:02] you should .close(), I guess [16:02] still, I stand by ~ClassName(); [16:03] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/171952/is-there-a-destructor-for-java [16:03] humm, interesting [16:07] Python has a nice "with" statement for this :-) [16:08] Java 7 is introducing an AutoCloseable interface for automatically closing resources created in a try statement. [16:08] (in case of exception)