| sladen | so Russian: ƨƨ̄́ Serbian: ƨ̄ƨ̄́ Macedonian ƨ̄ƨ̄́ ? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Ddpbf | yes | 00:00 |
| sladen | mmm | 00:00 |
| Ddpbf | errrrrrr | 00:00 |
| Ddpbf | first | 00:00 |
| Ddpbf | one is correct | 00:00 |
| Ddpbf | look | 00:00 |
| Ddpbf | Russian: ƨ nothing Serbian: ƨ̄ nothing Macedonian ƨ̄ƨ̄́ ? | 00:01 |
| sladen | lets try another way of phrasing it: | 00:01 |
| sladen | Default: ƨƨ̄́ Russian: (no overrides) Serbian: override ƨ̄ Macedonian: override ƨ̄ | 00:02 |
| sladen | the locale overrides are overrides. and most of the time a language code is not set, so not overrides as possible | 00:03 |
| Ddpbf | sladen that is correct | 00:03 |
| * sladen welcomes damjan from #ubuntu-mk | 00:04 | |
| Ddpbf | hi damjan | 00:04 |
| damjan | hi | 00:04 |
| sladen | Default: ƨƨ̄́ Russian: (no overrides) Serbian: override ƨ̄ Macedonian: override ƨ̄ | 00:04 |
| Ddpbf | или здраво ако знаш српски | 00:04 |
| sladen | Default: ƨƨ̄́ Russian: (no overrides) == ƨƨ̄́ Serbian: override ƨ̄ == ƨ̄ƨ̄́ Macedonian: override ƨ̄ == ƨ̄ƨ̄́ | 00:09 |
| sladen | so Serbian and Macedonian == the same in this cacse | 00:09 |
| sladen | case | 00:09 |
| Ddpbf | Yes (in case of Serbian) | 00:10 |
| sladen | damjan: and for Macedonian, is that correct? | 00:10 |
| damjan | sladen: yes, for ƨ̄ | 00:11 |
| damjan | in serbian they don't use the other one | 00:11 |
| damjan | sladen: but they look the same | 00:11 |
| Ddpbf | damjan: he know it, but he asks it from developer perspective (Russians does not have ђ/ѓ at all) :) | 00:15 |
| Ddpbf | Serbian language has override ie bar | 00:15 |
| Ddpbf | so as Macedonian | 00:15 |
| * sladen is tempted to suggest that the form should always be ѓ should be г and ' (even if it's not used in a particular language) | 00:16 | |
| Ddpbf | Russians and Serbs do not have letter wit acute | 00:16 |
| Ddpbf | sladen it is acute i believe | 00:16 |
| Ddpbf | ´ | 00:16 |
| Ddpbf | in ѓ | 00:17 |
| sladen | yes | 00:17 |
| sladen | Ddpbf: yes. I know that /some/ languages do not use a particular letter | 00:17 |
| sladen | Ddpbf: but that's not a reason to *exclude* that letter. People frequently type words from multiple languages in the same sentence | 00:18 |
| damjan | makes sense | 00:18 |
| Ddpbf | damjan: what macedonian г looks like | 00:19 |
| Ddpbf | like s or i | 00:19 |
| damjan | I'd say more like i | 00:19 |
| damjan | it's definitely not curvy as the s | 00:19 |
| damjan | but does have a small ligature(?) | 00:20 |
| sladen | serif | 00:21 |
| damjan | serif, right | 00:22 |
| sladen | if both 'i' and 's' are the wrong shapes, do we need to go and design something in the middle? | 00:23 |
| damjan | can you propose something? | 00:27 |
| Ddpbf | sladed | 00:27 |
| Ddpbf | sladen: there is another problem | 00:27 |
| Ddpbf | serbian and i thin macedonian also | 00:28 |
| Ddpbf | П and Т looks different than russian | 00:28 |
| Ddpbf | russsian are like latin n and m | 00:28 |
| damjan | Ddpbf: afaik that's already fixed | 00:28 |
| Ddpbf | is that? | 00:28 |
| Ddpbf | i am on arch, and have relly old version of ubuntu font | 00:29 |
| Ddpbf | copied sorry | 00:29 |
| Ddpbf | i guess i ll need to boot my kubuntu machine | 00:29 |
| damjan | Ddpbf: I'm on arch too | 00:29 |
| damjan | pango-view --font="Ubuntu Italic 24px" --text="б в г д ѓ п т з к ѐ ѝ" --language=mk | 00:29 |
| Ddpbf | lol | 00:29 |
| damjan | sladen: the style of the Ubuntu font is a bit like techical drawing/writing | 00:31 |
| damjan | sladen: so, the i style for г seems ok in that context | 00:31 |
| damjan | sladen: when I compare the cyrillic k for ex. it's very straight without serifs | 00:32 |
| damjan | in a truly cursive font it would be more curvy | 00:33 |
| Ddpbf | ppl, have to go to take some sleap, feel like home on our channel, sladen if you have more doubts you could contact me here https://launchpad.net/~dalibor | 00:35 |
| Ddpbf | night | 00:35 |
| sladen | thanks to both of you | 00:36 |
| damjan | sladen: would you like me to ask someone to draw it? | 00:37 |
| sladen | damjan: the two main questions see it be 'i'-like, or 's'-like. And bar, or no-bar | 00:38 |
| damjan | macedonian: bar 100% no questions there | 00:38 |
| damjan | for the ubuntu font, I'm much more inclined that the i-like style fits | 00:39 |
| damjan | the s-like doesn't fit for sure | 00:39 |
| sladen | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/12/06/%23ubuntu-rs.html#t23:27 <--- that's the earlier conversion | 00:39 |
| joostvb | добро јутро | 05:14 |
| Beretta021 | jutro | 09:13 |
| bojce | pozdrav | 09:13 |
| Beretta021 | brb | 09:24 |
| olujicz | toliko sam se maltretirao da bih skontao da je modul usblp pokvaren za moj štampaš | 10:59 |
| olujicz | kada sam priključio preko seriala proradilo | 11:00 |
| olujicz | još kada bi stoka iz cannon rešila da pravi drajvere za skener | 11:03 |
| === Anpu is now known as A|npu|way | ||
| nikolam | olujicz, canon je stoka jer stampace sa skenerima cini neupotrebljiim hardverski ako nemaju pune kertridze. | 11:20 |
| nikolam | itd itd. canon je generalno samo zbog toga za zaobilazenje. | 11:20 |
| phlogisto | zato meni skener ne radi, ni nista | 11:22 |
| phlogisto | dobro da znam | 11:23 |
| olujicz | nije mi štampaš sa skenereom | 11:24 |
| promis | canon za fotoaparate, a hp za štampače. Ne obrnuto. ;) | 11:25 |
| olujicz | štampač mi je epson | 11:25 |
| olujicz | fino radi, samo mi je oštećen ovaj cilindar ili kako se već zove | 11:26 |
| olujicz | to verovatno može i da se zameni, ali oštećenje je malo tako da nije strašno | 11:26 |
| nikolam | imam jedan canon mp160 sa skenerom, skoro nov, ako neko hoce da kupi, | 11:50 |
| nikolam | samo nemam pune kertridze (i nemam nameru da ih kupujem) | 11:51 |
| Anpu | offtopic >> /j #ubuntu-rs-offtopic | 11:56 |
| nikolam | Anpu, jos nije definitivno da je "offtopic" donro ime za taj kanal. -vanteme -razno itd. Uostalom podrska za stampace i snekenre JESTE u temi... | 12:08 |
| Anpu | [12:50] <nikolam> imam jedan canon mp160 sa skenerom, skoro nov, ako neko hoce da kupi -> ne vidim kakva ti ovde podrska treba. za prodaju? | 12:09 |
| Anpu | za prodaju imas forum pijaca | 12:09 |
| nikolam | Anpu, ma sta me se tice, sta tis neki cistunas | 12:09 |
| Anpu | a kako se zove kanal, za sada se zove kako se zove | 12:09 |
| nikolam | imam iskustvo sa canonom | 12:09 |
| Anpu | cestitam | 12:10 |
| nikolam | pa niko nije birao kako se zove. | 12:10 |
| Anpu | birano je, na admin kanalu ;) | 12:10 |
| nikolam | mhm. zajednica <> admin kanal | 12:11 |
| Anpu | mhm pravimo se sad malo pametni, jel? :) | 12:11 |
| Anpu | u svakom slucaju, /j #ubuntu-rs-offtopic za temu o prodaji | 12:12 |
| nikolam | smao da napomenem da sam i sam besneo ranije kad se ode mnogo u pricu van teme. | 12:32 |
| nikolam | ALI sada mislim da ne treba preterivati sa forsiranjem mnogo u i van teme, jer to se u nesigutnim rukama pretvar au orudje za trolovanje. | 12:32 |
| nikolam | Samo lagano i po nekad napomenuti ako se bas mora. (na primer priprema krastavaca za zimu teme itd) | 12:33 |
| nikolam | misljenja sam da nema jos uvek toliko ljudi koliko moze biti. | 12:33 |
| nikolam | ok, tol'ko. :) | 12:35 |
| Anpu | novi kanal je probna mera u pokusaju da se smanji kolicina spama na zvanicnom kanalu za podrsku | 12:41 |
| Anpu | tako da.. cisto pravilo,nista licno ;) | 12:41 |
| Atlantic777 | ojha! | 12:42 |
| Anpu | des | 12:42 |
| nikolam | Anpu, pa nikog nije niko pitao za misljenje o tome | 12:42 |
| nikolam | i pravilo postoji ako je striktno a ne ako se razvlaci kao zvaka | 12:42 |
| Anpu | pitali smo LoCo centralu i odobrili su novi kanal | 12:43 |
| nikolam | Anpu, pocinjem da mi se ne svidja pravilo ako ga sprovodi neko kome je Al kapone uzor :) | 12:43 |
| nikolam | Anpu, al niste pitali zajednicu kako bi zelela da se kanal zove | 12:43 |
| * nikolam gone with da winda | 12:44 | |
| Ddpbf | sladen: ping | 12:44 |
| fb0x | sta nije u redu sa Al kapone ? o_O | 12:44 |
| Anpu | nikolam: u slucaju da imate problema sa nekim od moderatora, mozete poslati poruku administratorima | 12:45 |
| Anpu | ja nisam primetio ovde al kaponeovce ali drzacu oci sirom otvorene | 12:45 |
| nikolam | nemoj ti meni da persiras decko, Anpu | 12:45 |
| nikolam | Al je bio kriminalac? | 12:46 |
| nikolam | i niko ti ne trazi da drzis sirom oci otvorene.. | 12:46 |
| nikolam | :) | 12:46 |
| Anpu | iskreno ne znam da li ovde neko ima krivicni dosije, i ne zanima me :) | 12:46 |
| nikolam | Anpu, nemo se pravi sglup :) | 12:46 |
| Ddpbf | nikolam: полако | 12:46 |
| * nikolam el mogu ja sad da odem | 12:46 | |
| Ddpbf | можеш | 12:47 |
| Anpu | glup? | 12:47 |
| Atlantic777 | nikolam: hajde još jednom, raspravu o Al kaponeu možemo da vodimo na #ubuntu-rs-offtopic, a ovo je kanal podrške. Zvaničan, vodi se zapisnik od strane Canonicala i moramo se pridržavati. | 12:49 |
| Ddpbf | да ли се сладен оглашавао од јутрос? | 12:49 |
| Ddpbf | тек синоћ су македонци покренули буб | 12:49 |
| Ddpbf | *бубу да наше и њихово мало писано г | 12:49 |
| Ddpbf | има цртицу | 12:49 |
| Ddpbf | руско нема, провјерио сам са лингивтима | 12:50 |
| Ddpbf | наше има цртицу и обло је | 12:50 |
| Ddpbf | значи подсјећа на s | 12:50 |
| sladen | Ddpbf: morning | 12:59 |
| Ddpbf | morning | 13:01 |
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| === A|npu|way is now known as Anpu | ||
| liti | dobro vece | 15:59 |
| fb0x | dobro vece | 15:59 |
| liti | toliko tema za ovaj irc klijent ali sve radi posle restarta :( | 16:00 |
| Ddpbf | Anpu: | 16:01 |
| fb0x | mislio je na irssi | 16:01 |
| fb0x | valjda | 16:01 |
| fb0x | xD | 16:01 |
| Atlantic777 | liti: imaš li kakvih problema s ircom? | 16:23 |
| fb0x | izgleda | 16:24 |
| liti | lol | 16:24 |
| liti | ne bas | 16:24 |
| fb0x | koji irc client je u pitanju? | 16:24 |
| fb0x | pa menjas teme | 16:24 |
| liti | irssi za apple :) | 16:24 |
| fb0x | znaci irssi xD | 16:24 |
| liti | aha | 16:24 |
| fb0x | ja mislim da ne moras stalno da ga restartujes | 16:24 |
| liti | :P | 16:25 |
| liti | set theme ne moze da promeni difolt temu | 16:25 |
| liti | mada kaze da je promenio | 16:25 |
| fb0x | kako ne ne moze? | 16:26 |
| liti | lepo | 16:26 |
| fb0x | jel si probao /reload | 16:26 |
| liti | macintosh | 16:26 |
| liti | otkud znam | 16:26 |
| liti | da znam ne bi pokusavao sa restartom | 16:26 |
| liti | jesam | 16:26 |
| liti | moram do prodavnice po cigare, brb | 16:27 |
| liti | test test test | 16:54 |
| liti | test | 16:54 |
| liti | lol | 16:54 |
| liti | test | 16:57 |
| liti | ah evo promene lol | 16:57 |
| liti | tst | 16:59 |
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| === A|npu|way is now known as Anpu | ||
| === dungodung|away is now known as dungodung | ||
| === Anpu is now known as A|npu|way | ||
| Atlantic777 | http://blog.b92.net/text/19282/Novi-cirilicni-fontovi/ | 20:23 |
| === A|npu|way is now known as Anpu | ||
| === dungodung is now known as dungodung|away | ||
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