[00:00] so Russian: ƨƨ̄́ Serbian: ƨ̄ƨ̄́ Macedonian ƨ̄ƨ̄́ ? [00:00] yes [00:00] mmm [00:00] errrrrrr [00:00] first [00:00] one is correct [00:00] look [00:01] Russian: ƨ nothing Serbian: ƨ̄ nothing Macedonian ƨ̄ƨ̄́ ? [00:01] lets try another way of phrasing it: [00:02] Default: ƨƨ̄́ Russian: (no overrides) Serbian: override ƨ̄ Macedonian: override ƨ̄ [00:03] the locale overrides are overrides. and most of the time a language code is not set, so not overrides as possible [00:03] sladen that is correct [00:04] * sladen welcomes damjan from #ubuntu-mk [00:04] hi damjan [00:04] hi [00:04] Default: ƨƨ̄́ Russian: (no overrides) Serbian: override ƨ̄ Macedonian: override ƨ̄ [00:04] или здраво ако знаш српски [00:09] Default: ƨƨ̄́ Russian: (no overrides) == ƨƨ̄́ Serbian: override ƨ̄ == ƨ̄ƨ̄́ Macedonian: override ƨ̄ == ƨ̄ƨ̄́ [00:09] so Serbian and Macedonian == the same in this cacse [00:09] case [00:10] Yes (in case of Serbian) [00:10] damjan: and for Macedonian, is that correct? [00:11] sladen: yes, for ƨ̄ [00:11] in serbian they don't use the other one [00:11] sladen: but they look the same [00:15] damjan: he know it, but he asks it from developer perspective (Russians does not have ђ/ѓ at all) :) [00:15] Serbian language has override ie bar [00:15] so as Macedonian [00:16] * sladen is tempted to suggest that the form should always be ѓ should be г and ' (even if it's not used in a particular language) [00:16] Russians and Serbs do not have letter wit acute [00:16] sladen it is acute i believe [00:16] ´ [00:17] in ѓ [00:17] yes [00:17] Ddpbf: yes. I know that /some/ languages do not use a particular letter [00:18] Ddpbf: but that's not a reason to *exclude* that letter. People frequently type words from multiple languages in the same sentence [00:18] makes sense [00:19] damjan: what macedonian г looks like [00:19] like s or i [00:19] I'd say more like i [00:19] it's definitely not curvy as the s [00:20] but does have a small ligature(?) [00:21] serif [00:22] serif, right [00:23] if both 'i' and 's' are the wrong shapes, do we need to go and design something in the middle? [00:27] can you propose something? [00:27] sladed [00:27] sladen: there is another problem [00:28] serbian and i thin macedonian also [00:28] П and Т looks different than russian [00:28] russsian are like latin n and m [00:28] Ddpbf: afaik that's already fixed [00:28] is that? [00:29] i am on arch, and have relly old version of ubuntu font [00:29] copied sorry [00:29] i guess i ll need to boot my kubuntu machine [00:29] Ddpbf: I'm on arch too [00:29] pango-view --font="Ubuntu Italic 24px" --text="б в г д ѓ п т з к ѐ ѝ" --language=mk [00:29] lol [00:31] sladen: the style of the Ubuntu font is a bit like techical drawing/writing [00:31] sladen: so, the i style for г seems ok in that context [00:32] sladen: when I compare the cyrillic k for ex. it's very straight without serifs [00:33] in a truly cursive font it would be more curvy [00:35] ppl, have to go to take some sleap, feel like home on our channel, sladen if you have more doubts you could contact me here https://launchpad.net/~dalibor [00:35] night [00:36] thanks to both of you [00:37] sladen: would you like me to ask someone to draw it? [00:38] damjan: the two main questions see it be 'i'-like, or 's'-like. And bar, or no-bar [00:38] macedonian: bar 100% no questions there [00:39] for the ubuntu font, I'm much more inclined that the i-like style fits [00:39] the s-like doesn't fit for sure [00:39] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/12/06/%23ubuntu-rs.html#t23:27 <--- that's the earlier conversion [05:14] добро јутро [09:13] jutro [09:13] pozdrav [09:24] brb [10:59] toliko sam se maltretirao da bih skontao da je modul usblp pokvaren za moj štampaš [11:00] kada sam priključio preko seriala proradilo [11:03] još kada bi stoka iz cannon rešila da pravi drajvere za skener === Anpu is now known as A|npu|way [11:20] olujicz, canon je stoka jer stampace sa skenerima cini neupotrebljiim hardverski ako nemaju pune kertridze. [11:20] itd itd. canon je generalno samo zbog toga za zaobilazenje. [11:22] zato meni skener ne radi, ni nista [11:23] dobro da znam [11:24] nije mi štampaš sa skenereom [11:25] canon za fotoaparate, a hp za štampače. Ne obrnuto. ;) [11:25] štampač mi je epson [11:26] fino radi, samo mi je oštećen ovaj cilindar ili kako se već zove [11:26] to verovatno može i da se zameni, ali oštećenje je malo tako da nije strašno [11:50] imam jedan canon mp160 sa skenerom, skoro nov, ako neko hoce da kupi, [11:51] samo nemam pune kertridze (i nemam nameru da ih kupujem) [11:56] offtopic >> /j #ubuntu-rs-offtopic [12:08] Anpu, jos nije definitivno da je "offtopic" donro ime za taj kanal. -vanteme -razno itd. Uostalom podrska za stampace i snekenre JESTE u temi... [12:09] [12:50] imam jedan canon mp160 sa skenerom, skoro nov, ako neko hoce da kupi -> ne vidim kakva ti ovde podrska treba. za prodaju? [12:09] za prodaju imas forum pijaca [12:09] Anpu, ma sta me se tice, sta tis neki cistunas [12:09] a kako se zove kanal, za sada se zove kako se zove [12:09] imam iskustvo sa canonom [12:10] cestitam [12:10] pa niko nije birao kako se zove. [12:10] birano je, na admin kanalu ;) [12:11] mhm. zajednica <> admin kanal [12:11] mhm pravimo se sad malo pametni, jel? :) [12:12] u svakom slucaju, /j #ubuntu-rs-offtopic za temu o prodaji [12:32] smao da napomenem da sam i sam besneo ranije kad se ode mnogo u pricu van teme. [12:32] ALI sada mislim da ne treba preterivati sa forsiranjem mnogo u i van teme, jer to se u nesigutnim rukama pretvar au orudje za trolovanje. [12:33] Samo lagano i po nekad napomenuti ako se bas mora. (na primer priprema krastavaca za zimu teme itd) [12:33] misljenja sam da nema jos uvek toliko ljudi koliko moze biti. [12:35] ok, tol'ko. :) [12:41] novi kanal je probna mera u pokusaju da se smanji kolicina spama na zvanicnom kanalu za podrsku [12:41] tako da.. cisto pravilo,nista licno ;) [12:42] ojha! [12:42] des [12:42] Anpu, pa nikog nije niko pitao za misljenje o tome [12:42] i pravilo postoji ako je striktno a ne ako se razvlaci kao zvaka [12:43] pitali smo LoCo centralu i odobrili su novi kanal [12:43] Anpu, pocinjem da mi se ne svidja pravilo ako ga sprovodi neko kome je Al kapone uzor :) [12:43] Anpu, al niste pitali zajednicu kako bi zelela da se kanal zove [12:44] * nikolam gone with da winda [12:44] sladen: ping [12:44] sta nije u redu sa Al kapone ? o_O [12:45] nikolam: u slucaju da imate problema sa nekim od moderatora, mozete poslati poruku administratorima [12:45] ja nisam primetio ovde al kaponeovce ali drzacu oci sirom otvorene [12:45] nemoj ti meni da persiras decko, Anpu [12:46] Al je bio kriminalac? [12:46] i niko ti ne trazi da drzis sirom oci otvorene.. [12:46] :) [12:46] iskreno ne znam da li ovde neko ima krivicni dosije, i ne zanima me :) [12:46] Anpu, nemo se pravi sglup :) [12:46] nikolam: полако [12:46] * nikolam el mogu ja sad da odem [12:47] можеш [12:47] glup? [12:49] nikolam: hajde još jednom, raspravu o Al kaponeu možemo da vodimo na #ubuntu-rs-offtopic, a ovo je kanal podrške. Zvaničan, vodi se zapisnik od strane Canonicala i moramo se pridržavati. [12:49] да ли се сладен оглашавао од јутрос? [12:49] тек синоћ су македонци покренули буб [12:49] *бубу да наше и њихово мало писано г [12:49] има цртицу [12:50] руско нема, провјерио сам са лингивтима [12:50] наше има цртицу и обло је [12:50] значи подсјећа на s [12:59] Ddpbf: morning [13:01] morning === Anpu is now known as A|npu|way === A|npu|way is now known as Anpu [15:59] dobro vece [15:59] dobro vece [16:00] toliko tema za ovaj irc klijent ali sve radi posle restarta :( [16:01] Anpu: [16:01] mislio je na irssi [16:01] valjda [16:01] xD [16:23] liti: imaš li kakvih problema s ircom? [16:24] izgleda [16:24] lol [16:24] ne bas [16:24] koji irc client je u pitanju? [16:24] pa menjas teme [16:24] irssi za apple :) [16:24] znaci irssi xD [16:24] aha [16:24] ja mislim da ne moras stalno da ga restartujes [16:25] :P [16:25] set theme ne moze da promeni difolt temu [16:25] mada kaze da je promenio [16:26] kako ne ne moze? [16:26] lepo [16:26] jel si probao /reload [16:26] macintosh [16:26] otkud znam [16:26] da znam ne bi pokusavao sa restartom [16:26] jesam [16:27] moram do prodavnice po cigare, brb [16:54] test test test [16:54] test [16:54] lol [16:57] test [16:57] ah evo promene lol [16:59] tst === Anpu is now known as A|npu|way === A|npu|way is now known as Anpu === dungodung|away is now known as dungodung === Anpu is now known as A|npu|way [20:23] http://blog.b92.net/text/19282/Novi-cirilicni-fontovi/ === A|npu|way is now known as Anpu === dungodung is now known as dungodung|away