[00:26] <Fableflame> So, how could a noob like me be useful around here?
[05:16] <alourie> Fableflame: well, that's too generic of a question. What would you like to do? Testing, sorting bugs? writing some stuff? advocating? there's a lot to do...
[10:03] <brendand> gema - are you planning to create a subpage for each task on : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TasksPrecise (or link to a blueprint if appropriate)
[10:04] <gema> brendand: I have no plans yet, didn't know how to handle it so I created a wiki
[10:04] <gema> brendand: sounds like a good idea to have subpages for that
[10:07] <gema> brendand: since in the blueprints we need to put people's launchpad ids and I don't know most people's ids (plus the work is going to be collaborative) I haven't figured out how to do that
[10:08] <brendand> gema - since the bp's are used for status.ubuntu.com you probably don't want people messing with them. better to co-ordinate on a wiki and have one or two people updating the blueprints
[10:08] <gema> brendand: ack
[10:09] <brendand> gema - for the testcases in the tracker, shall we update them in place? or leave them as they are there and update them somewhere else?
[10:10] <gema> brendand: I would like to see them in a spreadsheet, like the one I uploaded to the wiki
[10:10] <gema> so that we can put them in the TCMS of our choice once they are reviewed
[10:10] <gema> and approved
[10:10] <gema> we may end up with some spreadsheets , one per person or so, but at least we know they are good and finished
[10:10] <brendand> gema - which spreadsheet?
[10:11]  * gema looking at the email again, I keep losing wiki links...
[10:12] <gema> brendand: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TestCase <- look at the bottom of this page
[10:16] <brendand> gema - i added links to the current testcase tracker and the page above in the task on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TasksPrecise
[10:17] <brendand> gema - do you think we could give the tasks a name? instead of calling them tasks 1-7 :)
[10:18] <gema> brendand: go for it xD
[10:18] <gema> brendand: I would have trouble finding a name for my own child, so you better take that (since you have more experience naming)
[10:19] <gema> brendand: any changes you deem necessary feel free to do them and inform the list afterwards, or report them in today's meeting, whichever works for you
[10:20] <gema> brendand: thanks!
[10:22] <brendand> gema - the meeting is from 5-7 right? for both topics?
[10:27] <Fableflame> Whoa, activity!
[10:27] <gema> brendand: the meeting is for all we've done this week
[10:27] <Fableflame> Figures you guys are active when I should be sleeping, lol.
[10:27] <gema> brendand: things that are in the list and things that we are doing but are not in the list
[10:28] <gema> brendand: i.e. difficult to share and needing access to internal systems
[10:28] <gema> Fableflame: indeed
[10:29] <brendand> gema - great, i have it on my calendar now
[10:34] <Fableflame> So say I wanted to get involved in Testing. What should I be testing? I've already install 12.04, should I just use it like I would every other day, or is there a list of procedures?
[11:04] <brendand> Fableflame - we do have a list of test cases, but as the email says they are out of date and not very good
[11:05] <brendand> Fableflame - For effective testing you shouldn't use it 'as you do everyday' but try doing as much as possible, doing unusual things etc
[11:06] <brendand> Really effective testing is controlled and based on knowledge of the software design and past experience, and encoded in test cases
[11:07] <Fableflame> Hmm. I'm a bit lacking in knowledge.
[16:47] <brendand> gema - i need to babysit now so i won't be that active in the QA meeting unfortunately
[16:48] <gema> brendand: no problem, you can answer to anything on the list later
[16:48] <gema> brendand: I will publish the log straight away