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gamerchick02my internet got turned on yesterday.00:08
dzhoyay internet00:09
gamerchick02I've waited quite a long time for it, too00:09
gamerchick02i don't get as quick of a connection through my new router, but damn if it ain't fast00:09
gamerchick02some sort of gigabit thing... i dunno00:09
gamerchick02i don't have a gigabit router.00:10
dzhoDOCSIS 3 something ormumbleanother00:10
dzho?00:10
gamerchick02uh... Linksys E something00:10
gamerchick02the cable itself is Comcast00:10
gamerchick02I've had good luck with Linksys routers so yeah.00:11
rick_h_gamerchick02: congrats on the network connectivity00:28
rick_h_big win00:28
gamerchick02thank you. it's amazing00:29
gamerchick02and it's crazy to be without it00:29
gamerchick02you know? you don't realize how much you depend on it00:29
gamerchick02wow. worked my ass off at work today (12 configs, this is unheard of, especially creation thereof) AND i cleaned my apartment00:29
snap-lHowdy00:30
gamerchick02hey! snap-l. i missed you!00:33
greg-gawww00:38
snap-lyep, I've been working on my dodge and passive defense.00:42
gamerchick02ah.01:30
gamerchick02i've just been offline for awhile01:30
gamerchick02that stupid power outage last week really put a crimp in my style01:30
jrwrenmmm... i want docsis301:40
jrwrengamerchick02: what does that mean, "12 configs" ?01:53
gamerchick0212 vehicle configurations01:53
gamerchick02you know when you go to an OEM website and create your car?01:54
jrwrenno. i disable flash, so that often doesn't work.01:54
gamerchick02yeah, those options go to someone like me and they go into various programs and then get sent to the plant so they know what parts to put on your car01:54
jrwrenoh I see.01:54
jrwrenthat is cool.01:54
gamerchick02it's a bunch of clicking little radio dials, but thanks01:55
gamerchick02it takes forever in Fiat's program: CoDeP.01:55
gamerchick02it's java based and just slow01:55
gamerchick02i can touch 500 codes for a config and it's all manual01:55
gamerchick02we're trying to figure out a better way to get the info to CoDeP so we don't have to do as much work01:56
gamerchick02ok. i'm going to see what's on TV02:17
gamerchick02perhaps fire up the netbook02:17
gamerchick02see everyone on the other side02:18
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WolfgerMorning12:39
rick_h_morning12:41
Wolfgeraw... no party?12:44
brouschut oh13:05
rick_h_no, sleepy...wife is sick and I had to move into the guest room part way through the night13:13
brouschmine too. weird13:21
snap-lg'morning13:40
brouschsnap-l: no. i guess you missed that memo13:40
snap-lYeah, JoDee was sick all yesterday13:41
snap-lI'm still wishing you all a good morning13:41
rick_h_snap-l is a better man than I13:41
rick_h_I take my discomfort out on the world bwuhahahaha!13:41
snap-lHeh13:42
brouschsnap-l: you must not have slept on the couch13:43
snap-lNope. I'm the guy that laughs at the face of danger13:45
snap-lor rather, sleeps through it13:45
brouschimpressive13:48
brouschactually i slept in bed too, but got up at 11:30, 3:30 and 5:30 because the boy was coughing13:49
rick_h_yea, times I wonder if I could change one thing about myself, would I change being a light sleeper or less weight13:49
rick_h_tough call13:49
snap-lI'd change my ability to procrastnate. I can distract myself 12 ways from doing anything13:50
snap-l"Let's check to see what changed on Wikipedia"13:51
WolfgerNot sure what I'd change... many ripples... Removing gout is a strong frontrunner, though. So long as I wouldn't have to change my lifestyle to achieve that effect :-p13:52
brouschwow, i read "many nipples"13:53
WolfgerLOL13:53
* rick_h_ refuses to admit that thought crossed his mind13:53
WolfgerI'd say something like "remove laziness", but that would effectively change who I am in many ways.13:53
Wolfgercould be I wouldn't like the result as much as I initially think13:54
WolfgerMy favorite Star Trek episode of all time is from The Next Generation when Q gives Picard the opportunity to go back in time and undo just one thing, and then Picard finds out the repercussions that one (bad, on the surface of it) thing had on the rest of his life.14:06
brouschit's not so bad, he ends up an astronomer14:07
brouschinteresting https://launchpad.net/~dreamhost-openstack-team14:11
Wolfgerbrousch: Well, he thought it was bad.14:16
WolfgerJust kind of a reminder that everything, even things we regret, all led us to where we are.14:17
snap-lWe are the sum of the layers of decisions we've made.14:33
brouschgood rant from armin ronacher on python3 http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2011/12/7/thoughts-on-python314:37
snap-lAll I have to say is if you feel like bitching about Python 3, please look a the vast rift between Perl 5 and Perl 614:45
snap-land kindly STFU. :)14:45
snap-lalso, I played with 1.5.2 while the world was working on 2.0. There's change there too.14:46
brouschbut isn't that part of the reason perl is dead now?14:47
snap-lWEll, it's not dead, but I frankly haven't invested any time in it recently.14:47
brouschit's mostly dead14:48
snap-lConsidering that "Modern Perl" is now anything 5.10 and above14:48
snap-lMoribund, more like it14:48
brouschwhen randall schwartz kicks the bucket it will be permanently dead14:48
snap-lLike disco; never dead, but constantly showing up at weddings.14:48
Wolfgerit will never die14:49
snap-lbrousch: You give him way too much credit14:49
Wolfgerit will always be in the toolboxes of sysadmins14:49
snap-lHe writes great books, but I think he's moved into Smalltalk14:49
snap-lWolfger: And that's fine14:49
Wolfgerand schmucks like me who think they can code...14:49
brouschhe is the only person that talks about it14:49
snap-lbrousch: Follow chromatic sometime.14:49
snap-lHe's still beating the Perl drum14:49
WolfgerMerlin14:49
snap-lThat's Schwartz.14:50
Wolfgerand all these guys: http://perlmonks.org/14:50
snap-lPut another way, FLOSS Weekly did more to disabuse me of the cult of Randall Schawartz than anything14:50
brouschthat web site looks like it's from 200314:51
snap-lbrousch: It is14:51
brouschsounds dead to me14:51
snap-lIt's slashcode, iirc.14:51
snap-lbut without all of the updates that happened to Slashdot proper.14:51
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snap-lhttp://perlmonks.org/?node=vroom <- the gent who created it14:52
snap-lLast here:Jan 31, 2011 at 15:33 UTC (44 weeks ago)14:52
ColonelPanic001ugh, Perl Monks14:53
ColonelPanic001fantastic content14:53
ColonelPanic001terrible as shit website14:53
ColonelPanic001they don't even hash passwords. Caused a ruckus a couple years ago when it got exposed14:53
* ColonelPanic001 is a Pilgrim14:54
ColonelPanic001http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=51088814:54
snap-lI think I still have an account on there.14:55
rick_h_perl? people still talk about that old thing? ;)14:57
brouschi talk about it in the same way i talk about pascal or fortran14:57
brouschnot quite cobol14:57
snap-lWell, apparently I don't have an account I can access anymore.14:58
snap-lOh well14:58
* snap-l <- Over it14:59
rick_h_heh, move along. Sit still and become replaced14:59
snap-lWell, I think that's the major problem with perl15:00
snap-lit did both (sit still, and move too far off the radar)15:00
WolfgerColonelPanic001: Yeah, I more or less quit PerlMonks after the unhashed password fiasco.15:02
Wolfgerit was embarassing15:02
ColonelPanic001pathetically embarassing15:03
ColonelPanic001there are some really good people on there. The knowledge is around15:03
ColonelPanic001and thisis first-day learning stuff15:03
ColonelPanic001pathetic15:03
WolfgerHeh. CNN poll today is asking "do you think the Russian election results can be trusted?". I'd like them to run a concurrent poll asking "do you think USA election results can be trusted?"15:09
Wolfgerand if there's a large discrepancy between the two, that percentage of people should be slapped in the face.15:10
snap-lThat's a very dumb poll15:10
snap-lMight as well ask people if they believe there are 500+ angels on the head of a pin15:11
snap-lSame results. :)15:12
ColonelPanic001Wolfger++;15:13
Wolfgersnap-l: yeah. I'd guess that far fewer than 1% of the people taking that poll know anything more about the Russian voting that what CNN told them to think.15:14
brouschrussians are all devious spies. obviously they cannot be trusted15:15
brouschmovies have taught me this15:15
WolfgerIt basically boils down to "nobody believes in fair elections, and if it's a country we don't like we're willing to admit we think it's all rigged"15:15
ColonelPanic001and all russian women are sexy, but dangerous and possibly govenment assassins15:16
WolfgerLOL15:16
brouschColonelPanic001++15:16
brouschall the men are spies and all the women are hot spies15:16
ColonelPanic001^15:16
brouschand they drink a lot of vodka, so they're always drunk15:17
brouschwould you trust those election results?15:17
Wolfgeron fear that they'd assassinate me, yes15:17
brouschso you would say you trust them, but really would not15:18
Wolfgerof course I would really be trustink them, comrade!15:19
brouschsnap-l: hm, wii fit in the morning is a good idea15:22
snap-lyeah, it at least gets my sorry ass moving15:22
brouschi thought about riding my exercise bike, but then the boy will wake up and i'll be the only one awake to tend to him15:23
brouschbut with wii fit he can play along15:23
WolfgerFriend of mine has done a number of blog entries about wii fit.15:26
brouschwe have it, and used it many years ago15:27
snap-lWolfger: Good or bad?15:27
Wolfgerbasically to counter the haters who say "it's not as good as going to the gym" by saying "if you don't actually get off your butt and go to the gym, but you do actually play on the wii a half hour a day, it sure as hell is *better* than the gym"15:28
Wolfgerit's no miracle weight loss device, but she says she's sleeping better and feels better after making a daily wii fit commitment15:29
snap-lyeah, I have no illusions that I'll look like the Governator when I'm done15:30
Wolfgerif it wasn't so expensive, I'd buy a wii and wii fit in a heartbeat15:30
snap-lAnd frankly, I wouldn't go to the gym anyway15:30
snap-lThe balance board is ~$9015:31
snap-lhttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002BSA3EM/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=decafbadnet-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B002BSA3EM15:31
brouschcan probably get them used on ebay for cheap15:31
snap-lYeah, and the Wii itself as a bundle is pretty cheap (~$170)15:32
Wolfgerhttp://noelfigart.com/blog/2011/11/11/wii-arent-good-enough/15:32
snap-lYeah, quite frankly, it gets me moving, and is an easy way to eigh myself in the morning every day.15:34
snap-lweigh, rather15:34
snap-lI wouldn't record this stuff otherwise.15:34
WolfgerI'm also vaguely concerned I'd break the balance board...15:35
snap-lIt's pretty sturdy15:36
WolfgerMaybe I'm just out of touch with prices, but $170 for the console plus $90 for the game (and board) just seems pricey15:36
snap-lthough they caution you not to jump on it15:36
WolfgerI mean, I could get a pretty nice desktop for that. Or a beater car.15:36
snap-lWolfger: Well, considering it started life at $250, and we were happy to get it then. :)15:36
snap-l~170 with bundled game isn't too shabby15:36
brouschgeez, 425 board games on the shelves http://therapidian.org/bringing-back-family-game-night16:03
snap-lLooks like my house ^W ^W my local game store.16:04
brouschit looks like they own another one, the oputer limits, which is about 1 mile from my work16:06
brouschouter16:07
snap-lI think I've heard of that store.16:07
brouschthat one's much smaller16:07
rick_h_http://www.androidcentral.com/verizons-galaxy-nexus-now-said-miss-never-announced-dec-9-launch-date Blazeix17:38
rick_h_I will not cause bodily harm to others...I will not...17:39
snap-lrick_h_: I hate to say I told you, but...17:40
snap-lVerizon couldn't hit a launch date if it were painted in large concentric circles on the side of a barn17:40
rick_h_snap-l: ... ... ...17:40
snap-lWell, seriously, when was the last time you saw an announcement that was day and date released?17:41
snap-lThese guys are not software or hardware vendors, they're esssentially the cable company17:42
rick_h_my phone oh so helpfully wiped itself of knowledge of all installed apps at the gym this morning17:42
rick_h_I didn't get to listen to my audiobook and had to listen to the idiot on the treadmill and his stupid tv station17:42
rick_h_I was *REALLY* looking forward to getting a new phone friday...and if I can't...17:43
* rick_h_ repeats new mantra of the day17:43
Blazeixugh17:46
rick_h_Blazeix: I don't know though. Best buy, costco, all saying they'll have them in stock this week17:47
rick_h_so who knows...but damn, it was so close this time with leaked shots of training docs, the extra sized battery, etc17:47
rick_h_the darn things are in boxes on UPS trucks, I vote we start hijacking them :)17:47
Blazeixas an aside, i'd like to kill websites that require the full URL slug to pull up a page17:50
snap-lBlazeix: yes.17:50
rick_h_there are a lot of sites I'd like to kill17:50
Wolfgerrick_h_: what's the new mantra of the day? I missed it...18:21
rick_h_rick_h_> I will not cause bodily harm to others...I will not...18:21
WolfgerMeh... I don't like it.18:22
Wolfgers/not//g18:22
rick_h_http://twitter.com/#!/PEP8SNOB my hero!!!!!!!19:17
rick_h_snap-l: Blazeix _stink_ ColonelPanic001 ^^19:17
rick_h_the horror of all the camel casing I've had to do lately...19:17
* rick_h_ shivers uncontrollably19:17
brouschthat has to be you19:19
rick_h_actually, I'm shamed I didn't start it first19:19
brouschlooks like it died19:21
snap-lhttp://rbelmont.mameworld.info/?p=689 <- Interesting19:23
ColonelPanic001hah, nice twitter feed19:25
* rick_h_ dies a little inside...hits enter on :%s/function (/function(/g19:26
Blazeixi prefer the latter :)19:28
snap-lYeah, I like function names to have their parens close-at-hand19:30
rick_h_snap-l: it's not a matter of closing, but one space between function and (19:31
rick_h_I've gotten to like the jslint mandate of a single space there19:31
rick_h_LP says "no no no little Rick...no spacey for you"19:31
snap-lrick_h_: Right, I like function( foo )19:31
rick_h_oh hell no19:31
brouschno space! wtf is wrong with you?19:31
* rick_h_ hits snap-l with a clue stick :P19:32
snap-lSheesh, you'd think I'd gone into the DMV just before closing time19:35
Wolfgerso much for no bodily harm... nice going, snap-l  :-)19:37
snap-lHmm, apparently I have a low grade fever19:39
snap-lgoing to lay down a bit19:39
rick_h_http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/DBR9VHT go fill it out and make LP bugs nicer kthx19:46
rick_h_crap I'm in big trouble... http://pycon.blogspot.com/2011/12/announcing-pycon-2012-tutorials.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ThePyconBlog+%28The+PyCon+blog%2919:50
rick_h_right off the bat they've got me suckered in...damn them!19:50
brouschfml. newest version of our CNC template software still requires winxpsp2 compatibility mode and running as administrator19:51
brouschrick_h_: damn good stuff in there19:53
Wolfgerrick_h_: if it was a bit closer than California, I'd be all over those tutorial days...19:57
* Wolfger wonders how much plane tickets would cost, how close greg-g is to Santa Clara, and what he'd charge for crash space :-p20:00
WolfgerBah, who am I kidding. I don't even get off my arse to go to CHC20:00
rick_h_that's my plan, trying to get enough flights miles for a ticket out there and crash at some friends that are out there these days20:00
rick_h_but my plan was to stay for sprints, and not go early for tutorials20:01
rick_h_but that first data analytics track just calls to me20:01
WolfgerInteresting. CCP is a sponsor20:02
brouschthat's right, greg-g is out there. he can put us all up for pycon!20:08
Blazeixsnap-l: feeling any better? It'd be a shame if I couldn't pay you the $5 I owe you :)22:30
snap-lYeah, I think so22:35
greg-gWolfger: rick_h_ (non-existent brousch): you're more than welcome to come stay at my place in return for changing diapers :) (santa clara is about an hour caltrain ride away)22:35
snap-lwasn't feeling awful, just cold, and running a little fever22:35
greg-gsnap-l: did you sleep? have fun fever induced dreams?22:36
greg-gmine are never fun, always scary/freaky22:36
snap-lno, just relaxing22:36

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