[06:46] <Takyoji> Any recommended Linux-related books at all? (such as for a Christmas gift or something)
[06:47] <Takyoji> Like of Linux-based software dev, or things relating to sysadmin (or Xen, which I have no background in), or learning deeper internals.
[06:49] <Takyoji> Too bad GNOME 2 dev books are now relatively irrelevant.
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: That's way too broad of a question.
[06:51] <Takyoji> To clarify: I don't intend on any books for how to use graphical applications, if that limits the criteria at all.
[06:51] <Takyoji> and something that's not introductory/redundant, like with chapters of 'how to use apt-get!', 'how to graphically add a printer!', etc.
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> Who would this be for?  What do they want to know about?
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> "Linux" is a huge category of books.
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> When you say "deeper internals", do you mean on the sysadmin side, programming side, or kernel side?
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> Also, must it be Linux specifically, or POSIX systems more generally?
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> OS or Network side?
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: Narrow things down man!
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> And then e-mail me sysadmin information like ASAP.
[07:10] <Takyoji> Programming-side of Linux app dev (GUI toolkits, or frameworks, etc), or anything to know of the structure of a common Linux distro for the sake of troubleshooting things
[07:10] <Takyoji> also, it's for myself, actually.
[07:11] <Takyoji> I was thinking of formally writing up all the details as of the school, but I guess 'f-- it' as I'll just write the basic details as a list.
[07:11] <Takyoji> Any preferred email (you can PM me via IRC, if you prefer privacy over your email address)
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> What types of applications would you like to develop?  Gnome?  Web?  Daemons?  CLI utilities?
[07:14] <Takyoji> I'd like to get into GUI app dev; I'm already familiar with web dev, and there isn't much to CLI.
[07:14] <Takyoji> I barely know how to make a practical GUI with GTK or Qt
[07:15] <Takyoji> in the context of Python, for the language.
[07:15] <Takyoji> (but using Glade for the designer)
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> mmk
[07:16] <Takyoji> I would have loved to learn about GNOME app dev (as there was something for learning various components of GNOME 2, and working with DBus, and probably CouchDB, and making panel applets, and so on) but now all irrelevant
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> For Python language stuff you can start with these 4:  http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596158118.do http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596158071.do http://www.apress.com/programming/python/9781430224150 http://www.apress.com/programming/python/9781590599822
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> For GTK+ you have http://www.apress.com/9781590597934 and this monstrosity:  http://www.amazon.com/GNOME-Programming-Bible-Arthur-Griffith/dp/0764546406
[07:40] <Takyoji> Oy, the latter is a bit dated.
[07:40] <Takyoji> Published in 2000; but should still be generally relevant