[00:01] <stepnjump> Does anyone know if there is a way to mount a remote optical drive on my desktop? I have a small acer netbook and of course, it doesn't have a built in CD reader on it....
[00:01] <escott> stepnjump, dd it to a disk image on another system, and then mount that image in a loopback
[00:02] <Mars11_> Anyone?
[00:02] <Miller> l me the channel for backtrack
[00:02] <stepnjump> escott: oh wow.. that seems to be complex!
[00:02] <escott> !backtrack | Miller
[00:02] <matin> hey toddnine
[00:03] <matin> even when i used sftp
[00:03] <stepnjump> ok I understand dd it escott but then after that?
[00:03] <matin> still permission denied
[00:03] <Miller> irc.freenode.net
[00:03] <stepnjump> escott: it's a commercial CD so it has protections on it. I tried to shrink it to an iso but it failed
[00:03] <escott> stepnjump, not really. dd if=/dev/dvd of $HOME/dvd.img
[00:03] <escott> stepnjump, then copy that over and mount -o loop dvd.img /mountpoint
[00:04] <escott> Mars11_, what was the question?
[00:04] <stepnjump> ok escott so it will shrink it to dvd.img?
[00:04] <stepnjump> oh gosh... you are a wizz escott ok I will try!
[00:04] <escott> stepnjump, what do you mean shrink it? dvd.img would be a bit-for-bit copy of the dvd
[00:05] <stepnjump> Oh that's awsome escott! I will try what you say. I will get back here in a few minutes to let you know how it turns out
[00:05] <Mars11_> Okay, so I have this flash drive that shows up as two disks. I know it's not two partitions because one is sdc and the other is sdd. It's also not a U3 drive.
[00:05] <stepnjump> thank you escott
[00:06] <Steak> hey, I'm trying to install memtest86 to a USB key, and it says "use the base device the device is assigned to"  I put a USB stick in, that says "OCZ Diesel", which is obviously not the base device, how can I determine the base?
[00:06] <Miller> not in the list of xchat something like irc.freenode.net
[00:06] <DJAnonimo> hi, anyone knows why samba asks me for credentials on a open share ? before reinstalling ubuntu anything was fine
[00:06] <frogonwheels> Mars11_: that happens a  bit - there's usually some kind of 'loader' on one of them - read-only
[00:06] <Miller> im looking for the backtrack irc
[00:06] <DJAnonimo> i would like to mount a share with fstab
[00:06] <Mars11_> It's not a U3. But one drive is read-only.
[00:06] <Steak> sorry for reposting my question, just didn't see any responses before
[00:07] <why> DJAnonimo: it had your creditials saved
[00:07] <frogonwheels> Mars11_: usually a windows exe of course :)
[00:07] <escott> Steak, a lot of ways /proc/partitions, or look at the output of mount
[00:07] <Mars11_> frogonwheels: No, it's a PDF.
[00:07] <escott> Mars11_, it could be in the firmware for the device
[00:07] <Miller> any one knowof the backtrack irc channel and how i can connect to it
[00:07] <Mars11_> Is there any way to change it?
[00:08] <escott> !backtrack > Miller
[00:08] <escott> Mars11_, if it isn't a U3 the only way to change it would be to go in there with a knife
[00:08] <Mars11_> :\
[00:09] <Mars11_> Oh...
[00:09] <DJAnonimo> why... nope the share is open and can be viewed without credentials on other PCs. no password needed
[00:09] <frogonwheels> Mars11_: nfi - I guess there might be a custom way of doing it - but it's probably not with the drivers
[00:09] <DJAnonimo> the other side is winXP
[00:09] <frogonwheels> Mars11_: more likely it's fixed.
[00:09] <matin> so is anyone good with ftp?
[00:09] <matin> or could help me with some permission problems?
[00:10] <why> matin: what permissions?
[00:10] <frogonwheels> matin: bad question.   state your problem
[00:11] <Steak> thanks escott, I found partitions, how do I use it?
[00:11] <escott> Steak, you found the device /dev/sdX# that matches your usb device?
[00:12] <Mars11_> escott: So is there any way?
[00:12] <Steak> escott: I found the partitions file, wondering what to do with it
[00:12] <Steak> gedit?
[00:13] <escott> Mars11_, if its in hardware not really
[00:13] <Mars11_> escott: Could there be a way to do it with software?
[00:13] <matin> alright, so when i tried to upload my files to my server
[00:13] <matin> I was originally getting 550 error
[00:14] <escott> Steak, no just read it. you are trying to figure out what matches the usb device. alternately if the usb is mounted you can run `mount` and figure out what device is mounted on the mount point (where you would go to put files on the usb)
[00:14] <matin> then someone told me to use sftp
[00:14] <matin> so i did, and now I'm getting 553 error
[00:14] <matin> actually
[00:14] <matin> now I'm getting "permission denied
[00:14] <matin> Error:	rm /home/fouad/public_html/js/init.js: permission denied
[00:15] <stepnjump> sudo dd if=/media/'1st CD' of $HOME/dvd.img escott, are you sure it's 'of'? I get the error code dd: unrecognized operand `of'
[00:15] <escott> Mars11_, a USB device can be whatever it wants, and tell the os whatever it wants, and it doesnt have to listen to anything the os tells it. so no guarantee you can do anything in software
[00:15] <MadMike> can't login with gdm or lightdm (i just get thown back to the greeter), but works with xdm... any ideas?
[00:15] <escott> stepnjump, of=$HOME/dvd.img  and you need to dd the raw device /dev not the mountpoint/media
[00:15] <MadMike> using ubuntu 11.10
[00:15] <stepnjump> oh ok escott. I'll try again
[00:16] <Peyam> Hi
[00:16] <stepnjump> ok escott, so I mount it in /dev?
[00:16] <escott> Steak, the gui may be easier for you. its called disk utility
[00:16] <Peyam> I tried to  set the monitor up with a Hdmi cable. from my stationary computer to the Tv
[00:16] <Peyam> I cant see anything. I tried to install the drives. and it cant find anuthing in  additional drive
[00:17] <Steak> escott: I got it... was trying to figure out how to read the file
[00:17] <escott> stepnjump, no. so /dev/dvd *is* the raw contents of the dvd. if you sudo head /dev/dvd you will see the beginning lines of the dvds raw structure. that is what you want to copy with dd
[00:17] <Steak> ok I found what I was looking for, it was /dev/sdb, thanks for the help
[00:17] <matin> so any ideas? why and frogonwheels
[00:17] <Mars11_> :\ Okay, thanks for your help. escott and frogonwheels.
[00:17] <graingert> escott: don't use dd for copying optical disks
[00:18] <stepnjump> ok escott but in /etc, dvd is nowhere to be found. Is it ok though to go straight with that command?
[00:18] <Miller618> can someone plz help me.... i made a file in root  /root/dhcpd.conf but when i run sudo dhcpd3 -d -f -cf /root/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcpd/dhcpd.pid at0 i get .../root/dchpd.con permision denied y is this i have even chmod 777 the file no luck
[00:18] <tsvenson> Hi guys. New to Ubuntu and have a weird problem. I installed it on a Dell D620 notebook and every time it turn of the screen, it also turn down the brightness setting. Meaning I have to manually restore it every time. I have turned off the Dim setting in the Screen settings, but to no help. Any ideas?
[00:18] <chronossc> there is a way to let wifi auto-reconnect without ask me for password in ubuntu and xubuntu?
[00:18] <escott> graingert, ok? i wasnt aware that was a potential problem
[00:18] <graingert> escott: it depends what you are copying
[00:19] <escott> graingert, i think stepnjump just wants an image file (this isnt like a dvd he wants to rip) although he hasnt been too specific
[00:19] <graingert> braserio should do that
[00:19] <graingert> brasero
[00:20] <graingert> and there are other toold
[00:20] <Miller618> can someone plz help me.... i made a file in root  /root/dhcpd.conf but when i run sudo dhcpd3 -d -f -cf /root/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcpd/dhcpd.pid at0 i get .../root/dchpd.con permision denied y is this i have even chmod 777 the file no luck
[00:20] <stepnjump> escott, as long as I will be able to take this image and open it on my netbook, that's what I want to do cuz my netbook doesn't have an optical drive
[00:20] <Miller618> Can't open /root/dhcpd.conf: Permission denied
[00:20] <Miller618> y is this
[00:21] <graingert> stepnjump: what is on the DVD?
[00:21] <stepnjump> A software graingert
[00:21] <qmanjr5> Does Banshee support adding apps to an iPod?
[00:21] <stepnjump> A software I just bought graingert
[00:21] <graingert> stepnjump: I see, use brasero
[00:21] <Mars11_> qmanjr5: No.
[00:21] <stepnjump> graingert: will that make me an .iso?
[00:21] <graingert> stepnjump: I wasn't accusing you of anything
[00:21] <Peyam> can anyone help me install graphic drives?
[00:22] <graingert> stepnjump: most likely
[00:22] <qmanjr5> Mars11_, how should I add them?
[00:22] <iceroot> !ati | Peyam
[00:22] <Mars11_> jmanjr5: On your iPod.
[00:22] <stepnjump> No no.. lol just wanted to specify. It's a software that corrects the text in french. My gf likes it so much, she wants it on her netbook too
[00:22] <stepnjump> and with the dd command graingert, it won't work?
[00:22] <buttons> is there a way to figure out what processor a computer is on via command line, and the number of cores?
[00:23] <escott> stepnjump, is this software going to be able to run in ubuntu?
[00:23] <Miller618> can someone plz help me.... i made a file in root  /root/dhcpd.conf but when i run sudo dhcpd3 -d -f -cf /root/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcpd/dhcpd.pid at0 i get .../root/dchpd.con permision denied y is this i have even chmod 777 the file no luck
[00:23] <graingert> stepnjump: it _might_ work
[00:23] <iceroot> buttons: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[00:23] <Peyam> I have a integrated Graphic card with my CPU. Intel Core i5
[00:23] <Miller618> Can't open /root/dhcpd.conf: Permission denied
[00:23] <iceroot> buttons: every entry is one core
[00:23] <Miller618> y is this
[00:23] <graingert> escott: he probably wants to use linux to copy a disk to use on his netbook that uses windows
[00:23] <escott> Miller618, who owns the file?
[00:24] <stepnjump> escott and graingert, it's a software that installs in Windows, Mac and Linux from the manufacturer
[00:24] <Miller618> i have chmod 777 the file even running root no luck
[00:24] <escott> Miller618, but who owns it.
[00:24] <iceroot> Miller618: .../root/dchpd.con   its called /root/dhcp.conf  check for a typo
[00:24] <Mars11_> escott: Sorry about bringing this up again, but is there anything I could do to at least make one of the drives writeable?
[00:25] <iceroot> Miller618: and never ever!!! use 777
[00:25] <stepnjump> If there was a software I could map my remote computer's CD ROM drive graingert, it would be best but I don't know of any. I just found one that claims it does just that but in Windows...http://www.paragon-software.com/business/net-burner/
[00:25] <escott> Miller618, some applications get particular and will refuse to open even with broad permissions like that (usually they have a different error message, but you never know)
[00:25] <Miller618> corry my typo
[00:25] <DJAnonimo> hi. anyone can help me with installing KDE on ubuntu 11.10....
[00:25] <matin> can anyone help me with an ftp permissions problem?
[00:25] <DJAnonimo> well i cant find it in Ubuntu software centre...
[00:25] <KFP> Is it normal for Unity to hang for a few seconds every now and then?
[00:25] <graingert> stepnjump: no, just use a USB dvd drive
[00:25] <escott> matin, you need to be much much more specific about what is happening
[00:26] <iceroot> KFP: what do you think?
[00:26] <Miller618> this is my error............sudo dhcpd3 -d -f -cf /root/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcpd/dhcpd.pid at0
[00:26] <Miller618> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Server V3.1.3
[00:26] <Miller618> Copyright 2004-2009 Internet Systems Consortium.
[00:26] <Miller618> All rights reserved.
[00:26] <Miller618> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
[00:26] <FloodBot1> Miller618: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:26] <gdhull08> flooder
[00:26] <stepnjump> graingert: I know but then I would have to buy one more thing... Trying to cut down my expanses right now
[00:26] <KFP> iceroot: ...That probably that is not supposed to happen. :)
[00:26] <gdhull08> What ubuntu do yall have
[00:26] <iceroot> KFP: correct :)
[00:26] <Miller618> iv tryed before chmod iv tried with i created the file it just wont run
[00:27] <gdhull08> i should say what linux based operating system
[00:27] <gdhull08> Runnin on xubuntu
[00:27] <Miller618> bt5
[00:27] <KFP> iceroot: ...But every now and then it stops reacting to mouse clicks (usually when I want to minimize/maximize/switch windows), then after a few secs it *wakes up* and does something.
[00:27] <iceroot> Miller618: are you sure dhcpd is running as root? and not as a special user?
[00:28] <gdhull08> Linux:
[00:28] <Miller618> im logged in as root when im doing my stuff
[00:28] <iceroot> Miller618: some apps wont start when you start it as root, if it is working if you dont define a specific conf-file?
[00:28] <iceroot> Miller618: dont use a root-shell use sudo
[00:28] <matin> escort, when i tried uploading before, i used to get 550 errors in FileZilla, so then someone suggested I use sftp. now that i used it, i got Error:rm /home/fouad/public_html/js/init.js: permission denied
[00:29] <matin> and one of those for each upload
[00:29] <Peyam> How can I install my grahic drives. I have a Intelcore i5 and integrated  graphic card. please help me
[00:29] <Miller618> iv tried both nothing
[00:30] <Miller618> im making a soft ap but this is the only part that wont work for me
[00:31] <KFP> iceroot: Shouldn't be a performance issue, since my hardware is fairly up-to-date.
[00:31] <escott> !backtrack | Miller618
[00:32] <yeepee> hi
[00:32] <stepnjump> escott: it's dd'ing right now...
[00:33] <stepnjump> What is the command to take it from dvd.img back to independant files escott please?
[00:33] <Kimble> Hey. i've got a mac configured to send all http and https through a privoxy server (ub 11.10).  This works fine. However, I've now configured the same server machine to serve caching dns with bind9, which causes privoxy to be unable to resolve addresses. How to fix?
[00:34] <yeepee> can somebody help me with my ubuntu 11.10 and my creative xtreme audio ?
[00:34] <stepnjump> David, escott  are you still here?
[00:35] <bj_penn> hi, i exported an nfs share on a ubuntu 11, zfs filesystem, and im trying to mount it on a centos 5.2 and fedora core 6 and it says "permission denied". I am able to do it on centos 5.5. anyone know how i can fix this? which logs would give me more information about this?
[00:37] <mikeyfbi> i have btnx mapping two of my mouse buttons to change tabs in chrome ... but those are my default 'back' and 'forward' buttons ... how do i disable back/forward in chrome/firefox for these buttons
[00:37] <mikeyfbi> google couldn't help me :(
[00:37] <Peyam> can anyone help me
[00:39] <cafejunkie> /cycle changing host
[00:41] <mikeyfbi> i have btnx mapping two of my mouse buttons to change tabs in chrome ... but those are my default 'back' and 'forward' buttons ... how do i disable back/forward in chrome/firefox for these buttons
[00:42] <share> hello
[00:43] <bj_penn> hi, i exported an nfs share on a ubuntu 11, zfs filesystem, and im trying to mount it on a centos 5.2 and fedora core 6 and it says "permission denied". I am able to do it on centos 5.5. anyone know how i can fix this? which logs would give me more information about this?
[00:43] <melow01> dmesg | tail: "no IPv6 routers present" - anyone know how to disable ipv6 in Ubuntu 10.04?
[00:44] <``PeeR> I need help
[00:44] <BarkingFish> !detai.s]]
[00:45] <BarkingFish> !details | ``PeeR
[00:45] <jtokarchuk> melow01, add this to /etc/sysctl.conf
[00:45] <jtokarchuk> melow01, pm
[00:45] <melow01> jtokarchuk, ok, will do
[00:46] <``PeeR> I have a problem with my mousewheel AND my numpad. I'm running Ubuntu version. My numpad simply just doesn't work (it's like it was disable... arrows working but not numbers...)... And about my mousewheel, it is making firefox going back... I'm about to re-install windows xp! lol
[00:46] <``PeeR> lol
[00:46] <``PeeR> sorry I didn't say the version
[00:47] <``PeeR> it's Ubuntu 11.10
[00:47] <gogeta> pressnumlock
[00:47] <``PeeR> gogeta, thx, already tried ;)
[00:47] <gogeta> as for the mouse i dunno
[00:47] <MonkeyDust> ``PeeR  gpointing-device-settings - configuration tool for pointing devices
[00:48] <``PeeR> if I come here it's because I found a lot of things on forums... nothings helped me
[00:48] <OerHeks> you could change the numpad behaviour in the keyboard section
[00:48] <``PeeR> monkey, I'm afraid I'll need a step-by-step ...
[00:49] <BarkingFish> ``PeeR: Do you have any buttons or switches which you can use to enable or disable the pad from the front of the laptop?
[00:49] <``PeeR> BarkingFish, it's not a laptop
[00:49] <MonkeyDust> ``PeeR  sudo apt-get install gpointing-device-settings
[00:49] <BarkingFish> sorry, i misread
[00:49] <``PeeR> MonkeyDust, thx
[00:49] <BarkingFish> I saw number pad and automatically read "mousepad" even though it wasn't there :)
[00:50] <OerHeks> in keyboard - tab mouse , disable mouse movement with numpad
[00:50] <``PeeR> OerHeks, no numpad behavior option in the keyboard section...
[00:50] <BarkingFish> apologies. I'm tired
[00:50] <``PeeR> BarkingFish, no need to apologies my friend ;)
[00:50] <Kimble> My Mac points all HTTP/HTTPS to a privoxy server on my LAN.  This worked fine until I set up a caching DNS, and pointed my router to it, now privoxy can't resolve.  Turning off the proxy settings on the mac causes it to resolve thru the caching dns server just fine. Any ideas how to get it working with privoxy?
[00:51] <jtokarchuk> Kimble, macos or ubuntu? I assume ubuntu if you are here o.o
[00:51] <Jim449991> hello
[00:51] <Kimble> Sorry, yes, the server running bind9 and privoxy is ub 11.10.
[00:51] <Jim449991> if i did an update and remove packages and the same time but it failed and i forced reboot
[00:52] <Jim449991> is there a command line that i have to type to check if something is broken ?
[00:52] <Kimble> Basically i can get the mac to send through privoxy, or use the caching dns, but not both together.
[00:53] <jtokarchuk> what's your privoxy set to DNS with? (I have never used the program, but am a network admin)
[00:53] <``PeeR> MonkeyDust, one I got the program, what do I do ?
[00:53] <froek> Jim449991: apt-get check
[00:54] <Jim449991> how to remove the downloaded files
[00:54] <Jim449991> which are not installed ?
[00:54] <Kimble> I've no idea. When i set it up, I didn't have to modify any DNS settings - it just worked.  I've tried searching Privoxy's documentation, but can't find anything about assigning a DNS address in Privoxy.
[00:54] <Jim449991> apt-get clean ?
[00:54] <froek> Jim449991: apt-get check
[00:55] <Hilikus> how can i configure pulse to use a remote server by default but fallback to the local one if there's any problem? is this even possible?
[00:56] <mbeierl> First question: how do I set focus-follows-mouse on oneric using the new "ubuntu" desktop?
[00:56] <``PeeR> monkey, i run it and then I must reboot?
[00:57] <mbeierl> Second question: I have enabled compiz to get the desktop cube back, but when I rotate the cube, the rotation is nice and smooth, but the entire desktop, once the new face lands, flashes.  I also cannot move window to next cube face with shift-alt-ctl arrow anymore.  It looks like it is moving, but then when the flash occurs, the window disappears back to the original face.  Anyone know a fix for this?
[00:58] <``PeeR> mbeierl, I have no fix but a question for you...
[00:58] <``PeeR> mbeierl, can I get a cube with ubuntu ?
[00:58] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: go ahead...
[00:58] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: the answer is ... it depends.  On your hardware and Ubuntu version
[00:59] <SkipMFreek> Hi, i was wondering if someone here could help. I'm trying to install ubuntu on a parallel primary partition using wubi. However upon reboot im greated with a error saying sda cannot be found
[00:59] <``PeeR> hum... not a real good hardware... Somethign like a Pentium 4 HT... 720 Mo RAM... Ubuntu 11.10
[01:00] <SkipMFreek> does anyone have any experience with Wubi ?
[01:00] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: it has more to do with the video card than the chip itself.  the desktop cube relies on video hardware acceleration, so that's where the real issue is.
[01:01] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: i /think/ you can buy a reasonable nVidia based card that should go into a P4 mobo (PCI), and the price that I'd be able to quote from Canada would run about $60 CAD.
[01:01] <zykotick9> SkipMFreek, well for one thing, Wubi does not use a partition, it uses a file inside windows.
[01:01] <SkipMFreek> zykotick9:  doesn't sound right but ok
[01:01] <``PeeR> mbeierl, really helpfull, thx !
[01:02] <styelz> mew
[01:02] <SkipMFreek> zykotick9:  any ideas of what could be causing the acpi conflict
[01:02] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: you are welcome, for the little that I could provide :)
[01:02] <SkipMFreek> I tried changing ATA to AHCI
[01:02] <``PeeR> mbeierl, last thing... once I got my materiel ready... How do I get the CUBE hehehe
[01:03] <mbeierl> anyone on how to set focus-follows-mouse on oneric?  Is it not possible?  The google-fu is not with me tonight and I cannot find any references other than to PPAs, which seems really odd to me
[01:03] <r3c4ll> hola todos, tengo un amigo con un servidor proxy viejito con ubuntu intrepid (8.10), que repositorios puedo usar para bajar algunos paquetes que quiero instalar...? algun repo de ubuntu tiene paquetes de intrepid?
[01:03] <SkipMFreek> zykotick9:  any thoughts at all would be helpful
[01:03] <r3c4ll> si no es asi... que opciones tengo?
[01:04] <zykotick9> SkipMFreek, trust me - you don't want to hear my opinion.  Best of luck though.
[01:04] <zykotick9> !es | r3c4ll
[01:04] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: I hate to say, it depends, but... on 11.10, all I needed to do was to install "ccsm" the Compiz Config Settings Manager and compiz package, then configure it to take over Unity with by enabling the "Unity Plugin" in ccsm
[01:05] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: http://www.howtoforge.com/enabling-compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu-11.10-oneiric-ocelot
[01:05] <``PeeR> mbeierl, oh ok... I'll copy/paste it and study a bit ;) thx
[01:05] <bobweaver> what does the unity under ccsm even do ?
[01:05] <bobweaver> besides get in the way ?
[01:05] <``PeeR> the synonym of Ubuntu : Itdepends
[01:06] <``PeeR> hehe
[01:06] <mbeierl> bobweaver: compiz gives nice wigglies to the unity bars :)
[01:06] <pp7> bobweaver: ccsm is simply the config manager
[01:06] <``PeeR> i'm now wondering If I would not rader install another linux ...
[01:06] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: why?  the "it depends" happens no matter what distro, or OS for that matter.
[01:07] <``PeeR> mbeierl, yeah you're right, I'm juste tired of searchin tonight ;)
[01:07] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: if you ask me how to connect to a wifi using Mac OS, the answer depends on if you're using an iPad, iPhone or Macbook
[01:07] <melow01> Ubuntu Live CD: How can I watch the commands running as the live cd is booting? (Instead of watching the ubuntu splash screen)
[01:07] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: what more are you searching for?
[01:08] <bobweaver> melow01:  press up
[01:08] <``PeeR> mbeierl, about how to fix the two tiny bugs I got...
[01:08] <melow01> bobweaver, up-arrow?
[01:08] <bobweaver> yes
[01:08] <``PeeR> mbeierl, interested to help me ?
[01:08] <Jim449991> if i add my self to sudoers. what do i do to get permission as a sudoer?
[01:08] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: I can try... :)
[01:09] <pp7> Jim449991: sudo <command>
[01:09] <``PeeR> Jim449991, not sure If I understand but i think you just write sudo and your command...
[01:09] <melow01> bobweaver, thanks
[01:09] <mbeierl> Jim449991: you now are allowed to use the "sudo" command to run programs as root
[01:09] <mbeierl> !sudo
[01:09] <Jim449991> ooo ok i understand now
[01:09] <bobweaver> np melow01 the right arrow and left all  do things
[01:09] <pp7> what IRC client is everyone using here?
[01:09] <bobweaver> quessel  pp7
[01:09] <cafejunkie> pp7: irssi
[01:10] <``PeeR> ok mbeierl... first... The easy one!  ... My numpad doesn't work. It seems to be disabled but it isn't...
[01:10] <vg_> hi!! i need help
[01:10] <``PeeR> pp7 ... mIrc
[01:10] <melow01> bobweaver, what functions do the other arrow buttons have during boot?
[01:10] <pp7> hmm
[01:10]  * ``PeeR put is head in a paper bag
[01:10] <bobweaver> vg_:  what is up ?
[01:10] <bobweaver> melow01:  to switch back and forth
[01:10] <bobweaver> plymouth
[01:10] <vg_> bobweaver: hi, i need some help a moment
[01:11] <pp7> is quessel better than X-Chat?
[01:11] <``PeeR> !details vg_
[01:11] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: did the Ubuntu install go through keyboard selection for you?
[01:11] <bobweaver> !better
[01:11] <pp7> bobweaver: i know I just wanted to here opinions :P
[01:11] <vg_> im just reinstall mu ubuntu 11.10 and i want install it gnome-shell for tunning themes
[01:11] <pp7> hear*
[01:11] <vg_> can u help me step by step ?
[01:11] <bobweaver> I like quessel because I am use to it I also like bitchX
[01:12] <``PeeR> mbeierl, I don't know... I don't see a lot of options in the keyboard configuration...
[01:12] <vg_> im just reinstall just moment
[01:12] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: dropping off the network for a minute.  I'll be right back
[01:12] <``PeeR> mbeierl, I'll wait :)
[01:12] <pp7> for me, things have to "look good" so I use X-chat
[01:12] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: I'm back.  gimme a second
[01:12] <bobweaver> vg_:  what gnome do you want ?
[01:12] <vg_> bobweaver: gnome-shell
[01:13] <vg_> for tuning themes install
[01:13] <vg_> i dont want unity
[01:13]  * cafejunkie rocks unity :D
[01:13] <pp7> how do u change the color of the top panel in 11.10?
[01:14] <cafejunkie> pp7: it follows the color of your gtk theme
[01:14] <A|i3N> any good free cloud storage/virtual drives available out there that work with ubuntu? Or any way to make a drive letter outta an FTP server on your own domain?
[01:14] <``PeeR> pp7, a tip, do not use mIrc with vine :P lol
[01:14] <cafejunkie> pp7: so edit the .css files of your current theme to change the colors
[01:14] <pp7> cafejunkie: but isnt there a specific way to set just the panel color?  I use elementary theme
[01:14] <cafejunkie> pp7: either in ~/.themes/nameoftheme/*.css or /usr/share/themes/yourtheme/*.css
[01:14] <bobweaver> !nounity   >> vg_
[01:14] <cafejunkie> pp7: no
[01:14] <pp7> cafejunkie: damn
[01:14] <bobweaver> arggh
[01:15] <cafejunkie> pp7: you can change the opacity with ccsm, but not color (yet) sadly
[01:15] <vg_> bobweaver: no. i want to install gnome-shell , witht gnome-tweak-tool for tuning themes and style
[01:15] <tsvenson> Could someone explain to me why Ubunty sets the ip number for the hostname to 127.0.1.1 and not 127.0.0.1 and what implications that has?
[01:15] <zykotick9> bobweaver, does ubottu really support appending? ;)
[01:16] <pp7> cafejunkie: I would love to change the panel opacity but I end u with this annoying glitch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPqpxXldLlA
[01:16] <bobweaver> !thanks >> zykotick9
[01:16] <why> tsvenson: absolutely nothing
[01:16] <bobweaver> zykotick9:  did it work ?
[01:16] <zykotick9> bobweaver, about as much as i'd expect ;)
[01:16] <bobweaver> !thanks >> bobweaver
[01:17] <bobweaver> !gnome >> bobweaver
[01:17] <tsvenson> why: Oki, so its nothing to worry about? Seems to confuse apache2 though as it says "Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName"
[01:17] <|Long|> hi guys what is the cmd to get access to cd room drive fro ssh?
[01:17] <pp7> cafejunkie: know of anyway around that bug? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPqpxXldLlA)
[01:18] <bobweaver> zykotick9:  I think that the factoids are off or something because it tells me that It knows nothing about gnome
[01:18] <frogonwheels> tsvenson:  http://www.leonardoborda.com/blog/127-0-1-1-ubuntu-debian/   ??
[01:18] <cafejunkie> pp7: that sucks. I don't get that glitch, but I do notice that the panel loses it's opacity if I use the desktop switcher
[01:18] <cafejunkie> pp7: no
[01:18] <pp7> damn
[01:18] <cafejunkie> pp7: it doesn't affect me, if anything it seems to be a driver bug. What gpu?
[01:18] <zykotick9> !gnome > bobweaver
[01:18]  * cafejunkie is just using an integrated intel chipset
[01:18] <tsvenson> frogonwheels: Thanks
[01:18] <vg_> bobweaver: can u help me please?
[01:19] <bobweaver> sweet zykotick9 need to preprend only one >
[01:19] <bobweaver> !thanks > zykotick9
[01:19] <frogonwheels> tsvenson: np - you got me curious :)
[01:20] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: sorry about that.  network actually changed out late on me.  i'm back
[01:20] <``PeeR> no problem, i'm looking for another irc client
[01:21] <zykotick9> bobweaver, fyi that "!thanks" isn't real - although it kinda works, but the "...keep in mind i'm a bot" doesn't make a lot of sense.
[01:21] <mbeierl> now I lost my "dash home" in the unity panel, and can't launch new programs.  Wow.
[01:21] <optimusM> ychat @''peer
[01:21] <tsvenson> frogonwheels: Nice :) New to Ubuntu and working my way to setup a lamp stack manually, since I want MariaDB instead of MySQL. Fun exercise so far...
[01:21] <optimusM> or x chat
[01:21] <bobweaver> zykotick9:  tell the bot thanks
[01:21] <bobweaver> thanks ubottu
[01:21] <``PeeR> optimusM thx i'm just installing xchat... Already heard of that
[01:22] <optimusM> xchat is good i use ychat on windows
[01:22] <bobweaver> dang supybot arghh zykotick9 thanks is used for people that thank the bot.
[01:22] <optimusM> you here mikekelso?
[01:22] <mikekelso421> so optimusm whats up
[01:23] <zykotick9> bobweaver, correct, and your attempts to send it to people is... odd.
[01:23] <perro_mdp26> hello
[01:23] <``PeeR> optimusM, I'm using mIrc on ubuntu.. lol with Wine... or Vine... it's a mess...
[01:23] <optimusM> how do i do the red to message someone lol
[01:23] <``PeeR> so mbeierl, when u're ready
[01:24] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: for the keyboard, try this: from a terminal launch the keyboard config applet:  gnome-control-center region
[01:24] <optimusM> mirc i think is only a 30 day trial
[01:24] <zykotick9> optimusM, include there nic in the message
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> ``PeeR: try irssi instead, lots of scripting possibilities
[01:24] <perro_mdp26> someone speak spanish? i need some help
[01:24] <bobweaver> optimusM:  ping them
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> !es
[01:24] <optimusM> mikekelso421 nothing much
[01:24] <perro_mdp26> thank u
[01:24] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: and on the bottom is a little picture of a keyboard.  click on that and it should bring up a keyboard layout app
[01:24] <mikekelso421> what am i doing right now?
[01:24] <mikekelso421> lol
[01:25] <pp7> cafejunkie: nvidia
[01:25] <pp7> cafejunkie: I updated to the latest driver and still have the same problem
[01:26] <GhostxRider> their we go lol
[01:26] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: from there you should be able to test what keys work.  If you click the "+" button, you will get a selection of alternate keyboard layouts.  Yours is probably a US alternate layout of some kind if the English (US) does not work
[01:27] <GhostxRider> what was that error you got mikekelso?
[01:27] <mikekelso421> cannot open /root/.repo/manifests.git/FETCH_HEAD: Permission denied
[01:27] <``PeeR> mbeierl, when I try to hit 4 and 8 and 6 or 2, my cursor is moving. first time I see it happen...
[01:27] <GhostxRider> what does that error mean and how can ot he fixed@room
[01:28] <GhostxRider> it**
[01:28] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: That is a good sign.  it means that it thinks your numlock is off and it's trying to use it as cursor control
[01:28] <``PeeR> mbeier, but it's doing it even it I hit the numlock
[01:29] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: what keyboard layout is reported as being used
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> mikekelso421: are you messing with android per chance>
[01:29] <GhostxRider> you know what the error means@"peer?
[01:30] <mikekelso421> yes
[01:30] <``PeeR> mbeierl, french canadian... cause I'm one of these ;) lol
[01:30] <mikekelso421> trying to compile from source
[01:30] <mikekelso421> with little luck
[01:30] <``PeeR> GhostxRider... that I'm a noob ?
[01:30] <GhostxRider> right now he is trying to get repo
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> mikekelso421: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969266&page=24
[01:31] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: Salut toé ...
[01:31] <``PeeR> tu m'niaise?
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> mikekelso421: http://serverfault.com/questions/107517/unix-how-to-give-user-rights-over-another-user-and-so-i-dont-need-to-sudo-or
[01:31] <``PeeR> lol
[01:31] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: ok, so that might be causing some sort of confusion between the french layout and the numlock.  this is where I plead ignorance as I've never used the French layout.  Despite having all the French keys on my laptop.
[01:32] <mbeierl> So, if there is anyone here who is familiar with keyboard layouts and how to make them work properly given different languages, it'd be greatly appreciated :)
[01:33] <``PeeR> mbeierl, that's where I'm not happy to be francophone. I love my langage but damn it's not compatible with informatic! lol
[01:33] <mikekelso421> what exactly am i supposed to be looking for in these 2 links
[01:33] <GhostxRider> what command are you getting the error on mikekelso?
[01:33] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: the other possibility is that it actually is a bug, in which case, you could try reporting it on launchpad.  They take internationalization quite seriously.
[01:33] <jtokarchuk> ``PeeR,  quebec?
[01:33] <``PeeR> mbeierl, don't you know a place where we can disable the cursors moving with the numpad?
[01:34] <``PeeR> jtokarchuk, yup
[01:34] <GhostxRider> mikekelso421:like this?
[01:34] <GhostxRider> nope lol
[01:34] <jtokarchuk> ``PeeR, Dauphin, Manitoba here :o
[01:34] <``PeeR> jtokarchuk, Dauphin is a city ? :) nice name!!
[01:35] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: I do not.  Can you give a quick try of adding the English (US) layout and see if it allows the keypad to work as expected?  If so, I'd say it's a bug that should be reported.  Btw, Ottawa here...
[01:35] <jtokarchuk> ``PeeR, if you can call it that -- 10,000 people
[01:35] <jtokarchuk> woo, more Canucks
[01:35]  * mbeierl now has vive les canadiens in his head
[01:35] <``PeeR> mbeierl, yeah I'll try it
[01:35] <mikekelso421> repo init -u https://android.googlesource.com/platform/manifest
[01:35] <jtokarchuk> hahaha
[01:36] <``PeeR> jtokarchuk, si le boucher n'est pas la même personne que le maire, c'est une ville :P
[01:36] <mbeierl> jtokarchuk: we might get an OT warning, but we crazy canuks seem to be the only ones awake here tonight :)
[01:36] <jtokarchuk> ``PeeR, five years of French has apparently been shot down the drain, no idea lol
[01:37] <``PeeR> jtokarchuk, if the butcher is not the same guy than the maire, it is a city ;)
[01:37] <jtokarchuk> heh
[01:38] <mbeierl> "mayor"
[01:38] <``PeeR> yeah mayor, lol, sure I was wrong!
[01:38] <``PeeR> lol
[01:38] <GhostxRider> hhhmmm idk what could cause that
[01:38] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: franglais.  c'est bon
[01:38] <GhostxRider> i never hate that error
[01:38] <``PeeR> mbeierl, lol I can debrouille myself
[01:39] <jtokarchuk> since im still new-ish to linux (Still have windows ties) can I create fullscreen terminal apps (somewhat like windows 80x25 char) using python? I write text adventures, and would like to write one for the software centre
[01:39] <chelsea2> hi
[01:39] <``PeeR> mbeierl, i tried english us
[01:39] <``PeeR> doesn't work
[01:39] <``PeeR> but the numlock key is flashing when I hit it
[01:40] <jtokarchuk> ``PeeR,  really old or really new keyboard
[01:40] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: my favourite is "ours avec moi".
[01:40] <``PeeR> jtokarchuk, I go for really old. It's writed "compaq" on it
[01:40] <mbeierl> jtokarchuk: I'm guessing old, as ``PeeR made reference to a P4...
[01:41] <jtokarchuk> ``PeeR, it;s possible the numlock scancode was different at that point, and ubuntu isn't picking it up
[01:41] <``PeeR> ubuntu, too much wise for me and my old keyboard... May be it will be the same issue for my mouse problem...
[01:41] <``PeeR> mbeierl, I cry, this was the easy one... lol
[01:42] <jtokarchuk> ``PeeR, I do some hobby os developing, and inputs are crazy sometimes
[01:42] <``PeeR> OS developing?!
[01:42] <mbeierl> jtokarchuk: HOBBY OS DEVELOPING??!?  some hobby
[01:42] <``PeeR> lol
[01:42] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: does it have USB inputs on the mobo?
[01:43] <``PeeR> mbeierl, i'm with a KVM
[01:43] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: you can pick up cheap USB mouse/keyboard combos.
[01:43] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: OH!  as in a switch?
[01:43] <``PeeR> it is PS/2
[01:43] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: the KVM switch could actually be interfering.
[01:43] <``PeeR> yeah it's a switch
[01:43] <jtokarchuk> It's more masochism, but using C and ASM i have a basic environment that runs some executables I have made for it
[01:43] <``PeeR> an old one... :$
[01:44] <jtokarchuk> ooh, didn't know about the KVM. Tried without?
[01:44] <``PeeR> damn... didn't think of it... You may be right.. Didn't try wihtout!
[01:44] <mbeierl> jtokarchuk: my thoughts exactly.  man, it's been ages since i've used one of those for ps/2 input.
[01:44] <GhostxRider> you here mikekelso?
[01:45] <|Long|> how do i mount cd room drive when it doesn't show on sudo fdisk -l?
[01:45] <OerHeks> ``PeeR, ctrl-shift-numlock that is supposed to be the key combo that will let you move the cursor with the keyboard >>> http://superuser.com/questions/122142/control-mouse-with-keyboard-in-ubuntu
[01:45] <zykotick9> |Long|, i don't think fdisk -l lists optical drives.  You could try "sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt" and see if that works...
[01:46] <``PeeR> OerHeks, and if I want to disable it ?
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: sudo mkdir /media/cdrom0; sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[01:46] <OerHeks> change it in system menu, keybindings
[01:46] <``PeeR> keybindings?
[01:47] <jtokarchuk> ``PeeR, if 11.10 - go to dash and search keyboard
[01:47] <``PeeR> jtokarchuk, not familiar with the dash
[01:48] <``PeeR> is it terminal ?
[01:48] <``PeeR> lol
[01:48] <``PeeR> don't think so
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> ``PeeR: when you pres the windows key, the thing which shows in Unity, is called dash
[01:48] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: that is where we just were.  in oneric it is the keyboard settings with the English (US) , etc
[01:48] <|Long|> ActionParsnip, it said mount: according to mtab, /dev/sr0 is already mounted on /mnt
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: then you have mounted the CD :)
[01:48] <jtokarchuk> huzzah!
[01:49] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: Not dash, sorry.  to be clear, the keyboard bindings, etc, in oneric are in that applet that I had you launch from the command line
[01:49] <``PeeR> oh now i'm in "input method switcher" guys
[01:50] <|Long|> ActionParsnip, it work thanks
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: np
[01:50] <``PeeR> i have some choices but i'm not sure that it's what we're looking for
[01:50] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: it's the gnome-control-center that you want.  for "regions"
[01:51] <``PeeR> mbeierl, no we've already tried this one
[01:51] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: sorry - that's where we were before, but it does not have what we want
[01:51] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: from what I can see, it's been "simplified" for oneric
[01:52] <``PeeR> mbeierl, i'll reboot, be back
[01:52] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: drat.  I've got to run.  Gotta go pick my kids up.  ttyl and good luck
[01:52] <mbeierl> ``PeeR: a la prochaine!
[01:52] <jtokarchuk> viva la canada!
[01:52] <``PeeR> oh ok a la prochaine mon ami, ciao !!
[01:53] <``PeeR> jtokarchuk, see ya, i'll search a bit for Dauphin. Seems interesting :) ciao ciao
[01:54] <rypervenche> We speaking French now?
[01:58] <sharpK> Compiz using up upwards of 16% of my CPU, that normal?
[01:58] <jtokarchuk> rypervenche, had a Canadian moment
[02:01] <RocketLauncher> i have an i3 370M and changing the brightness doesn't do anything. does loonix not support it or what?
[02:01] <zykotick9> sharpK, i've seen it use a lot more...  eye candy takes CPU.
[02:02] <RocketLauncher> the brightness of my screen that is.. either the viewing angle sucks or the brightness is too high
[02:02]  * zykotick9 hopes loonix is a distro he's never heard of
[02:02] <RocketLauncher> Linux
[02:02] <sharpK> zykotick9, yeah, it was just the most consuming thing and unity has been super slow on me lately. Ever since I started using dual monitors in TwinView. When the system boots up, things are pretty smooth, but after an hour or two my mouse is moving at like 10 FPS, and everything is just really bogged down
[02:03] <zykotick9> sharpK, sorry i don't have any suggestions, i dropped compiz usage a year or so ago (and I've never used Unity).  Good luck.
[02:06] <lacrymology> I don't have the menu bar, what do I need to start?
[02:06] <RocketLauncher> are the developers listening to criticism about unity? i really hope it improves a bit because the only problem i have with it is the dock
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: http://linux.wikia.com/wiki/Loonix
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: you have now
[02:06] <totesmuhgoats> hi guys
[02:06] <totesmuhgoats> http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/smartmontools/wiki/FAQ#Whyismydisktemperaturesreportedbysmartdas150Celsius
[02:07] <totesmuhgoats> this option seems to be missing from smartctl as well as the man page
[02:07] <totesmuhgoats> running smartctl -R or -r gives me an invalid argument
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: gentoo based
[02:07] <fisix> so what are some awesome channels?
[02:08] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, thanks.  i think i'll pass on installing ;)
[02:08] <RocketLauncher> i have an i3 and i cant control the brightness. the shortcut works but the brightness doesn't change.. any ideas?
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: i would too
[02:09] <eudes> oi
[02:09] <Kainfire> \
[02:10] <zykotick9> RocketLauncher, an i3 is a CPU and your asking about a video question - these two things aren't really related.  What specific laptop/netbook is this?  For my EEEpc to get brightness working correctly i do have to add the kernel option acpi_osi=Linux to that is VERY hardware specific.
[02:11] <xrandr> is there a way to skip the splash screen on ubuntu's start up? It causes issues when i boot. I have to boot into recovery mode, remove my xorg.conf file, then restore it.
[02:11] <zykotick9> s/to that/but that/
[02:12] <zykotick9> xrandr, try removing "quiet splash" from grub, then update-grub, then reboot 'should' disable plymouth
[02:12] <zykotick9> xrandr, but i don't see how plymouth and xorg.conf are related
[02:12] <xrandr> zykotick9: can you tell me where to do that?
[02:12] <zykotick9> xrandr, /etc/default/grub
[02:14] <xrandr> so for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" just remove the ""
[02:14] <xrandr> ?
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> xrandr: no, keep the quotes
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> xrandr: just add the bootoptin in the quotes, save the new file, close gedit and run:  sudo update-grub
[02:15] <xrandr> ok, gonna try a reboot. Thank you
[02:15] <SwedeMike> or edit the line within grub at boottime
[02:15] <SwedeMike> bah
[02:15] <zykotick9> xrandr, did you run the "sudo update-grub"?
[02:15] <zykotick9> missed him?
[02:15] <SwedeMike> does update-grub really change all the existing boot lines?
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> yes
[02:15] <zykotick9> doh
[02:17] <sn0wl1nux> hi guys , i try to install the sn0wl1nux version of ubuntu but when the installation starts to create users i get error which says to set up the archives /var/log/syslog and /var/log/partman .. can somebody helps ?
[02:17] <sn0wl1nux> please
[02:17] <dr_willis> sn0lwlinux versiohn?
[02:17] <sn0wl1nux> yes
[02:17] <WanderingEnder> Does #Ubuntu support other distros based on Ubuntu?
[02:18] <dr_willis> yes what? ....
[02:18] <dr_willis> You made your own remaster?
[02:18] <sn0wl1nux> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4MvhmNa91k
[02:18] <WanderingEnder> It sounds, sn0wl1nux, like you need to hit up that distro's support channel.
[02:18] <sn0wl1nux> no i downloaded it
[02:18] <dr_willis> sn0wl1nux:  we cant support every ubuntu variant/spinoff out there.  but i would suggest checking the md5sums of any isos you download.
[02:19] <sn0wl1nux> i dont have md5sums
[02:19] <WanderingEnder> dr_willis: The official site for sn0wl1nux is down, and it looks to be a small project. I'm guessing there's no md5's.
[02:19] <WanderingEnder> sn0wl1nux: You may want to go back to a well maintained distribution based on Ubuntu.
[02:19] <dr_willis> sn0wl1nux:  sounds like a good reason to not use sn0wl1nux  to me... :)
[02:20] <sn0wl1nux> =(
[02:20] <sn0wl1nux> but can i make it somehow ?
[02:20] <dr_willis> bottom line is we cant support unofficial variants. and ive never seen that error message befor. sounds like a bad iso/burn.
[02:20] <dr_willis> or some weird remastering bug/issue.
[02:20] <sn0wl1nux> i burned it to a flash
[02:20] <tsvenson> Is there no way I can use apt-get to quickly give me a list of for example the installed php5 packages?
[02:21] <WanderingEnder> sn0wl1nux: We don't know what sn0wl1nux, and you can't tell if what you downloaded was corrupted or not because you don't have MD5s.
[02:21] <SwedeMike> tsvenson: you use "dpkg" for that
[02:21] <WanderingEnder> sn0wl1nux: the download may of went bad and corrupted your ISO, the iso you DL'ed may never have worked, etc.
[02:22] <dr_willis> http://sourceforge.net/projects/sn0wl1nux/files/11/  seems to have md5sum files.....
[02:22] <zykotick9> tsvenson, "dpkg -l | grep php5" should work
[02:23] <tsvenson> SwedeMike: Ahh, thanks.
[02:23] <dr_willis> and thats the end of our support for  sn0wl1nux  :)
[02:24] <DJAnonimo> please HELP, i cant run KDE. well there is just a black desktop and mouse curosr
[02:25] <UNR3S0LV3D> whats the program i need to make my own vhost ?
[02:25] <UNR3S0LV3D> like UNR3S0LV3D@play.with.me
[02:25] <sn0wl1nux> dr_willis, but what i have to do with the md5 ? :S
[02:28] <UNR3S0LV3D> what program do i need to make my own vhost for EG like UNR3S0LV3D@whateva.wateva
[02:29] <xrandr> ok, that worked. I needed to disable nouveau
[02:29] <lauratika> how can i ckeck proxy setting in ubuntu 11.10
[02:29] <geoffmcc> UNR3S0LV3D: do you mean a vhost for apache?
[02:29] <UNR3S0LV3D> vhost
[02:30] <WanderingEnder>                           UNR3S0LV3D what is EG
[02:30] <UNR3S0LV3D> unresolved@example.is.here
[02:31] <WanderingEnder> No, UNR3S0LV3D.
[02:31] <zykotick9> sn0wl1nux, next time pick a distribution that doesn't contain l33t speak
[02:31] <sn0wl1nux> dr_willis, so can you help me ?
[02:31] <WanderingEnder> UNR3S0LV3D: what is EG?
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> DJAnonimo: what if you try as a fresh user?
[02:31] <UNR3S0LV3D> ?
[02:31] <sn0wl1nux> zykotick9, do you know what i do with the md5 ?
[02:31] <UNR3S0LV3D> Eg=example
[02:32] <WanderingEnder> UNR3S0LV3D: then what are you after? be specific. What program?
[02:32] <zykotick9> sn0wl1nux, an MD5 is useless, unless you have an origional to compare your generated one to.  It's to check if an image was downloaded correctly.
[02:32] <UNR3S0LV3D> that wat im asking
[02:32] <UNR3S0LV3D> i dont no the name
[02:33] <UNR3S0LV3D> its were u can have a vhost
[02:33] <sn0wl1nux> zykotick9, so i cant install sn0wl1nux ?
[02:33] <zykotick9> sn0wl1nux, sorry, i don't personally care.  good luck.
[02:34] <WanderingEnder> UNR3S0LV3D: You're not being specific, nor indicating a virtual host of what service or program, so I don't think anyone can help you.
[02:34] <sn0wl1nux> zykotick9, :D ok
[02:34] <maum> where is bashrc on ubuntu 11.10?
[02:34] <WanderingEnder> sn0wl1nux: Check your ISO against the MD5. That's what its there for. if you are unfamiliar with how, check google on that phrase.
[02:34] <UNR3S0LV3D> private server
[02:35] <Vermind> Hi, I switched to the dark Adwaita theme and added a gtk-color-scheme line to gtk-2.0/gtkrc as per the instructions in https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=928975 . However, my GNOME 2 windows (like Pidgin and Firefox) have a white titlebar (regular adwaita style), while GNOME 3 windows are fine. The funny thing is that if I switch to regular, unmodified Adwaita, then restart gnome shell (Alt-F2 r) and then switch to the dark version, G
[02:35] <geoffmcc> UNR3S0LV3D: are you refering to seting up an apache vhost?
[02:35] <zykotick9> Wanderin1Ender, do you know if the sn0wl1nux distro even supplies MD5sums?
[02:35] <UNR3S0LV3D> yea im asking what programs are needed to make my own vhost like @wateva.wateva
[02:35] <maum> where is bashrc on ubuntu 11.10?
[02:36] <zykotick9> maum, ~/.bashrc
[02:36] <WanderingEnder> UNR3S0LV3D: Again, you aren't providing enough information. Sorry, no further replies.
[02:36] <UNR3S0LV3D> hm
[02:36] <fisix> so... what'r some other channels you guys use?
[02:36] <invisiblek> is everyone getting an internal error on gnome-look?
[02:36] <WanderingEnder> zykotick9: dr_willis gave him a link to the sorceforce project which had MD5s since its hosted on sourceforge.
[02:36] <jtokarchuk> fisix: This channel is for Ubuntu support, go to #ubuntu-offtopic to chat.
[02:36] <zykotick9> !polls | fisix
[02:37] <maum> zykotick9, I see
[02:37] <zykotick9> Wanderin1Ender, ok, just checking.
[02:37] <KingPin> anyone here using mariadb?
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> maum: same as in all Linuxes using bash
[02:38] <UNR3S0LV3D> what program is needed to host a Vhost
[02:38] <KingPin> UNR3S0LV3D,  virtual host as in website?
[02:38] <UNR3S0LV3D> as a mirc
[02:38] <KingPin> apache, nginx, lighttpd to name a few
[02:38] <KingPin> o that
[02:38] <UNR3S0LV3D> for MIRC
[02:38] <UNR3S0LV3D> ys
[02:38] <KingPin> well thats upto freenode if they allow setting vhosts.
[02:38] <Tubuktu> hey
[02:39] <UNR3S0LV3D> for other servers
[02:39] <UNR3S0LV3D> not this one
[02:39] <KingPin> upto the ircd.
[02:39] <Tubuktu> do change the hostname of my computer i have to restart?
[02:39] <UNR3S0LV3D> yea
[02:39] <WanderingEnder> ... This is not mIRC support..
[02:39] <UNR3S0LV3D> but wat do i need
[02:39] <jtokarchuk> #mirc
[02:39] <zykotick9> UNR3S0LV3D, not an ubuntu question is it
[02:39] <KingPin> ask in their #help
[02:39] <UNR3S0LV3D> i no the ircd allow
[02:39] <UNR3S0LV3D> its not an ubuntu question ?
[02:39] <UNR3S0LV3D> llol
[02:40] <WanderingEnder> UNR3S0LV3D: No, its not, mIRC is a Windows program. Good day.
[02:40] <UNR3S0LV3D> well
[02:40] <UNR3S0LV3D> itssi
[02:40] <UNR3S0LV3D> irssi
[02:40] <UNR3S0LV3D> i use irssi
[02:40] <UNR3S0LV3D> i ment IRC
[02:40] <FloodBot1> UNR3S0LV3D: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:40] <Tubuktu>  to change the hostname of my pc i have to restart?
[02:40] <happygol1cky> KingPin: i've seen freenode give out vhosts to some
[02:41] <Vermind> Tubuktu: depends on where you need to see the hostname change, but usually yes
[02:41] <zykotick9> !cloak
[02:41] <geoffmcc> UNR3S0LV3D: ask in #freenode
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> Tubuktu: you will need to change /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname   there is a command to change it on the fly but I'm unsure how it will work with network hardware, you may need to restarty networking too
[02:41] <Tubuktu> ActionParsnip, what is the command to change them on the fly?
[02:41] <Tubuktu> and do i have to reboot
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> Tubuktu: I'd suggest a reboot, covers all bases
[02:42] <zykotick9> Tubuktu, be sure to edit BOTH files - did you see "/msg ubottu hostname"
[02:42] <Tubuktu> yes
[02:42] <Tubuktu> !hostname
[02:42] <Tubuktu> i can use hostname tukuktunew
[02:43] <Tubuktu> nice
[02:43] <Tubuktu> doesnt say if it needs reboot
[02:43] <zykotick9> Tubuktu, the "hostname foo" is temporary
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> Tubuktu: you can run:  sudo hostname newname
[02:43] <jtokarchuk> Tubuktu,  as ActionParsnip said, you should to cover all of your bases.
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> Tubuktu: http://www.ducea.com/2006/08/07/how-to-change-the-hostname-of-a-linux-system/
[02:43] <Tubuktu> how can i make a bash script autorun on boot?
[02:44] <somsip> Tubuktu: depends what it's doing, but usually add it to /etc/rc.local
[02:44] <Vermind> Tubuktu: really at boot as root, or when you log in with your user?
[02:44] <Telamon> Anyone know why my sound would suddenly stop working with the 3.0.0 kernel?  3.0.3 won't work with my graphics card, so I can't use that.  soundcard works fine on 2.6 kernels, volume isn't muted, detects fine, just no sound...
[02:44] <Tubuktu> Vermind, before networking starts
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> Tubuktu: does it need to run as root?
[02:45] <Tubuktu> yes it needs sudo
[02:45] <asw3> ‎someone here know to deal with tar.gz?
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> Tubuktu: the you can add it in /etc/rc.local above the exit 0 line and it will run at boot as root
[02:45] <Telamon> asw3: tar zxf filename
[02:45] <somsip> asw3: tar zxf {file} ?
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> asw3: its a compressed archive, it could contain anything
[02:46] <asw3> ‎i downloaded this : language-pack-he-base_9.10+20091022.tar.gz
[02:46] <Tubuktu> ActionParsnip, if i run sudo hostname NEWHOST on boot using that startup script, will it work/
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> asw3: if you install unp, you can use unp to extract anything#
[02:46] <Tubuktu> ?
[02:46] <asw3> ‎extract it but i dont know how to install it
[02:46] <joe_> I have a big of an issue. One of my cats walked all  the keyboard while it was plugged in to my media pc. Now, when XBMC runs in fullscreen i still have the top bar which shows the sound/network/mail/etc icons
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> Tubuktu: why bother, you have the /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts to set hostname
[02:46] <asw3> ‎where can i find instruction how to?
[02:46] <asw3> ‎tar xvzf language-pack-he-base_9.10+20091022.tar.gz
[02:47] <asw3> ‎but after it i dont know what to do
[02:47] <geoffmcc> asw3: usually there is a readme or install file when you extract
[02:47] <Tubuktu> ActionParsnip, i want for the system to create automatically a random hostname in each boot.
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> Tubuktu: to what end, it won't achieve very much
[02:47] <Tubuktu> ActionParsnip, i can use the hostname command and seed some file with a list of hostnames
[02:47] <asw3> ‎http://64.12.96.232/pool/main/l/language-pack-he-base/language-pack-he-base_9.10+20091022.tar.gz
[02:47] <Vermind> asw3: Why don't you just do sudo apt-get install langauge-pack-he-base ?
[02:48] <totesmuhgoats> is anyone having problems with the splash screen on boot? when i boot 11.10 i get a purple screen, but I never see the bootloader, then i may or may not briefly get the ubuntu logo right before the login manager appears
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> Tubuktu: I guess, or you can use ssh to remotely run a command on the remote system
[02:48] <asw3> ‎Vermind, it broken
[02:48] <totesmuhgoats> I don't care about all that fancy stuff, i'd like to just disable it, but trying this didn't work
[02:48] <totesmuhgoats> http://askubuntu.com/questions/5065/how-can-i-disable-the-purple-splash-screen-at-boot
[02:48] <Vermind> asw3: so you downloaded another version? There should be a deb of it as well.
[02:48] <asw3> ‎W: Failed to fetch http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/language-pack-he/language-pack-he_9.10+20091022_all.deb
[02:48] <asw3> ‎  404  Not Found
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> asw3: try:  sudo apt-get update    first
[02:49] <Tubuktu> ActionParsnip, do you know how could i do something like that in bash? Assume i already have a hostname.txt which is a list of 100 valid hostnames. How can i use this together with the hostname command to randomly (or even in order) choose a hostname out of that list? (i then can run this script automatically at boot)
[02:49] <asw3> ‎i am using with ubuntu 9.10
[02:49] <asw3> ‎it should be a problem?
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> asw3: wait, what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[02:49] <jtokarchuk> Tubuktu: Python sounds like the answer
[02:49] <asw3> ‎type "lsb_release -sc"?
[02:49] <asw3> ‎karmic
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> asw3: karmic is no longer support here or anywhere else, it is EOL
[02:50] <jtokarchuk> Tubuktu, and out of curiousity, why with the random hostnames?
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> asw3: karmic is offtopic here
[02:50] <asw3> ‎so i will not able to install these pack?
[02:50] <asw3> ‎its old pack
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> asw3: not using the repos as they are disabled
[02:51] <asw3> ‎what is mean "repos"?
[02:51] <Tubuktu> jtokarchuk, it would go well with macchanger or each boot to have a random mac + random hostname = complete anonymity
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> !repo
[02:51] <asw3> ‎i cant build the tar.gz by my self?
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> asw3: karmic isn't supported here. I suggest you upgrade to Lucid
[02:52] <WanderingEnder> asw3: Is there a reason you haven't upgraded to 10.04?
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> asw3: you can do it by yourself but we cannot help you here
[02:52] <Tubuktu> jtokarchuk, could i use perl for that or python is the best bet?
[02:52] <asw3> ‎i heard about problem with unity
[02:52] <WanderingEnder> asw3: 10.04 LTS does not have Unity.
[02:53] <asw3> ‎Wanderin1Ender, i am afraid to broke my system
[02:53] <jtokarchuk> Tubuktu, you can use whatever you want, you would read each line of text (one hostname per line) into an array, and pick a random array[x] number
[02:53] <WanderingEnder> asw3: Then we cannot help you, I'm sorry, as ActionParsnip said. Good luck!
[02:53] <joe_> How can i make the top status bar go away when trying to make an app launch fullscreen?
[02:53] <asw3> ‎LTS=it mean that i will be able to install it once and get support for ever?
[02:54] <asw3> ‎or its also end after some years?
[02:54] <joe_> regardless of the app i run, it's always windowed and the status bar is always visible
[02:54] <Tubuktu> jtokarchuk, how can it be random? should i use a pseudorandom number generator?
[02:54] <ariane5> my dvd not boot system installer what can i do ?
[02:55] <joe_> ariane5, try a usb stick
[02:55] <jtokarchuk> in pseducode : y = random 1-100; hostname = array[y], after you have read the hostnames into your array
[02:55] <joe_> or quite possibly the alternate  (text based) installer
[02:55] <jtokarchuk> Tubuktu, ^^
[02:55] <stepnjump> escott, thank you... it worked great with dd ! Thank you a million
[02:55] <asw3> ‎Wanderin1Ender,ubuntu have dist like it?
[02:55] <ariane5> aha
[02:56] <WanderingEnder> asw3: I'm sorry, what was your question? Do I have 10.04?
[02:56] <Tubuktu> jtokarchuk, k nice. so i guess random is a function of python which uses /dev/random ? or its on RNG
[02:56] <asw3> ‎if i will install 10.04 the support is forever?
[02:56] <asw3> ‎or also ending?
[02:56] <WanderingEnder> asw3: No, its always rolling.
[02:56] <WanderingEnder> !LTS | asw3
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> asw3: LTS is supported for 3 years, so Lucid will be supported til April next year. Your release is old. Personally I'd clean install Oneiric and restore your user data from backup
[02:57] <Tubuktu> i g2g THANKS ALL
[02:57] <WanderingEnder> ActionParsnip: If he hates Unity, he could stay on 10.04, but I just did an upgrade path from 10.04 to 11.10 on a netbook because, well. everything is ancient. :)
[02:57] <jtokarchuk> Tubuktu, it uses a RNG
[02:57] <asw3> ‎thank you for helping
[02:58] <Tubuktu> jtokarchuk, PRNG
[02:58] <Tubuktu> pseudo
[02:58]  * korben is gone. Gone since Wed Dec  7 00:59:00 2011
[02:58] <asw3> ‎also i  want to ask if you know about system that have long support then 3 years?
[02:58] <jtokarchuk> Tubuktu,  yes, but as I said you can use whatever language fits you. Why is anonymity so important?
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> WanderingEnder: we don't know if s/he does or not
[02:58] <asw3> ‎its not really relevant to this chan
[02:59] <WanderingEnder> asw3: What did you hear was a problem with Unity?
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> asw3: 5 years is on server but that has no GUI
[02:59] <seroquel> is anyone using desura?
[02:59] <asw3> ‎some people didnt like it
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> !info desura
[02:59] <asw3> ‎not something additional
[02:59] <asw3> ‎Wanderin1Ender, are you using with unity?
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> seroquel: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/desura%E2%80%99s-gem/   looks sweet
[03:00] <WanderingEnder> asw3: Yes, I have used Unity. You have to get used to it, its different.
[03:00] <rypervenche> seroquel: I have it, but rarely use it.
[03:00] <WanderingEnder> That's all.
[03:00] <asw3> ‎maybe just to try it
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> asw3: if you dislike unity, install xfce4 and use xfce desktop and it will look and feel like gnome2
[03:01] <seroquel> yea it looks real sweet. i just don't know how to install it
[03:01] <joe_> what about gnome-shell
[03:01] <asw3> ‎o.k only self try will solve this forever
[03:01] <asw3> ‎i just heard bad comment about it
[03:02] <rypervenche> seroquel: Unzip the tarball then run it.
[03:03] <asw3> ‎can i update without clean install?
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> asw3: its like marmite, you either love it, hate it or grow to like it
[03:03] <asw3> ‎or from 9.10 to 10.04 its not recommend?
[03:03] <WanderingEnder> asw3: It took me 6 hours to upgrade from 10.04 to 11.10, are you sure you want to do that?
[03:04] <asw3> ‎6hours?
[03:04] <asw3> ‎wow
[03:04] <asw3> ‎it depend the internet speed?
[03:04] <WanderingEnder> asw3: Its easier just to backup your personal files and install 11.10 from scratch.
[03:04] <WanderingEnder> asw3: Only slightly. Each update is about 1100 packages.
[03:04] <OerHeks> internet speed, machine specs ..
[03:05] <WanderingEnder> So, for me, about 30 minutes to DL, then 1.5 to 2 hours to install/uninstall/update packages. Each install.
[03:05] <asw3> ‎so you recommend  me to back my home folder and install from scratch?
[03:05] <asw3> ‎back up*
[03:05] <asw3> ‎6 hour is a lot of time
[03:06] <jtokarchuk> asw3, that was the windmill he was tilting at, yes.
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> asw3: I do, and you should have a backup anyways
[03:07] <asw3> ‎a lot of thanks to every helper here
[03:07] <nguyenthientam> hi
[03:08] <nguyenthientam> help me
[03:08] <nguyenthientam> "phpMyAdmin - Error  Cannot start session without errors, please check errors  given in your PHP and/or webserver log file and configure your PHP installation properly."
[03:11] <KFP> ActionParsnip: A distribution upgrade somehow magically fixed the graphics driver.     Thanks for the help yesterday. :)
[03:12] <OerHeks> nguyenthientam, maybe this is the solution > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1408389
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> KFP: np dude, glad you got the gold
[03:19] <Vermind> I put up a question on the gnome-shell GTK2 theme light titlebar here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1891952 Any ideas are appreciated.
[03:21] <dehorse> anyone havin trouble installing themes on kubuntu?
[03:25] <deadsoul> Hello,.. how can I edit the music properties of the files in the remote daap server.. using banshee ?
[03:25] <joe_> ugh. Anyone know how i can get the titlebar to disappear when running an app in what is supposed to be fullscreen? As it is now, when i run XBMC in fullscreen mode its like it is maximized but not fullscreen even though it is supposed to be
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> joe_: try the \ key
[03:27] <joe_> oh snap!
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> joe_: or (if you'd read the man page), you'd see the -fs   option
[03:27] <joe_> thank you!
[03:27] <joe_> i tried the -fs option
[03:27] <joe_> it didnt work
[03:27] <FloodBot1> joe_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:27] <joe_> i didnt know about the
[03:27] <joe_>  \ key ;)
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> joe_: I don't even use xbmc, why is it I can find the solution??
[03:27] <joe_> My apologize for the excessive enters :)
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> joe_: but I used the same internet you do, but I found the solution in about 4 seconds...
[03:28] <deadsoul> hello
[03:29] <joe_> Maybe your google skillz are a little more evolved than mine are. I tried searching which is how i came up with the -fs option (which didn't work)
[03:29] <ozzloy> i installed 10.04.3 server 64 bit on virtualbox. in the vm, ifconfig shows no eth0.  how do i get networking to work?
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> joe_: all I search for was: xbmc run fullscreen
[03:30] <ozzloy> i've installed 10.04.3 desktop and networking worked fine
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> ozzloy: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[03:30] <deadsoul> Hello,.. how can I edit the music properties of the files in the remote daap server.. using banshee ?
[03:31] <ozzloy> ActionParsnip, no.  eth0 doesn't even show up at all.  this not just a dns issue
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> deadsoul: you can use http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/id3tool.1.html
[03:31] <din> ozzloy: edit the virtual machine settings and make sure the ethernet card is connected.
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> ozzloy: in /etc/network/interfaces   do you have:  auto eth0
[03:31] <ozzloy> din, it is
[03:31] <ozzloy> ActionParsnip, i do
[03:32] <ozzloy> or did a few minutes ago
[03:32]  * ozzloy makes sure
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> ozzloy: try restarting the networking service
[03:32] <deadsoul> ActionParsnip: Thanks,.. I'll check now
[03:32] <ozzloy> yep, auto eth0\niface eth0 inet dhcp
[03:32] <ozzloy> q
[03:32] <ozzloy> er..
[03:32] <c_smith_> hey, I'm having trouble with guvcview, and I've opened it in Terminal to see what's going on under the hood, and the output is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/762415/ the segmentation fault is when it crashes is when I click the button to capture video.
[03:33] <c_smith_> Cheese just gives me weird colors where they aren't supposed to be.
[03:33] <deadsoul> ActionParsnip: the thing is that, I can see, play my music from DAAP server,.. but I can't change its properties.. how can I do that ?
[03:33] <din> ozzloy: it sounds like the card is disconnected or the module for it is not loaded. if you look through dmesg output do you see anything about it?
[03:34] <ozzloy> sudo service networking restart<Enter>restart: Unknown instance:
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> deadsoul: you can use the cli command, or use x forwarding and run easytag
[03:34] <din> ozzloy: are there any other interfaces showing up?
[03:34] <ozzloy> din, just lo
[03:34] <ozzloy> i'll check dmesg
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> ozzloy: try stopping the service then start it, also try:  sudo ifup eth0
[03:35] <ozzloy> i tried changing from the default card to the one that says "MT Server"
[03:35] <deadsoul> ActionParsnip: you mean I can't do it via banshee
[03:35] <din> ActionParsnip: ifup eth0 will do nothing if the card is not detected by the kernel.
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> deadsoul: no idea, I don't use banshee
[03:36] <din> ozzloy: if you can't find anything in dmesg output, i'd try removing the card from the VM and adding another.
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> din: then run:  dmesg | less      and see what the kernel sees and does at boot
[03:36] <danny> i need some help on disabling the guest account on ubutnu 11.10
[03:36] <deadsoul> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[03:36] <van7hu> hi all
[03:36] <van7hu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Calculator
[03:37] <danny> can anyone help me on
[03:37] <van7hu> the calculator was lost from my computer (10.04), how could I get it back?
[03:37] <danny> disabling the guest account
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> danny: why did you hit enter after the word 'on'? make no sense
[03:38] <danny> ActionParsnip: to make it easier for me
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> danny: http://askubuntu.com/questions/62564/how-do-i-disable-the-guest-session
[03:39]  * why gives FourDollars another dollar
[03:39] <danny> thank you
[03:39]  * c_smith_ is closing this tab and going to znc server now he has found the details
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> danny: it scrolls the channel, please keep to one line if you can, it also makes questions not fragment so people don't have to reconnect your bits
[03:39] <c_smith> ok, back
[03:40] <c_smith> does anyone have an solution to my guvcview problem?
[03:40] <danny> ok ill keep that in mind for future references
[03:41] <c_smith> I've narrowed it down to missing codecs, specifically the H264 and lavc ones.
[03:41] <ozzloy> din
[03:41] <c_smith> tried compiling the x264, but it didn't help
[03:42] <ozzloy> sorry, din i can see stuff in dmesg, but i don't know how to copy paste it
[03:42] <jbu> hi all, does anyone know if there's an ubuntu system script I can use to get my wireless started?
[03:42] <jbu> or any script, really
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> danny: thanks
[03:43] <din> ozzloy: pm
[03:43] <ozzloy> din, also i've tried 2 different cards
[03:43] <ozzloy> o ok
[03:44] <danny> what is xterm
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> danny: its similar to gnome-terminal
[03:45] <danny> it looks like it
[03:45] <michaeljwjr> Hello everyone. Is there an up to date guide that explains how to mount my windows partition so it mounts, and then mounts on boot.
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> michaeljwjr: you will need to add it in /etc/fstab
[03:46] <michaeljwjr> yes I am a noob so I need a guide to follow with commands and such.
[03:46] <OerHeks> jups fstab
[03:46] <kayghar> danny: it's a generic (for x11) terminal emulator, while gnome-terminal is (guess what) gnome specific.
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> michaeljwjr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:48] <danny> are there any bots on this chat
[03:48] <dr_willis> !bot
[03:48] <michaeljwjr> actionparsnip: thanks
[03:49] <rockets> Will the 32-bit edition of Ubuntu recognize 4gb of ram, or will it only use 3.5, like Windows XP does?
[03:50] <dr_willis> rockets:  in part thats a hardware ussue. id say it would act the same.
[03:50] <rockets> dr_willis, Yeah I know, but for example, Windows 7 generally shows all 4gb, in my experience, even on machines that have the 3.5 issue with XP
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> rockets: you can install pae kernel and you can access up to 64Gb RAM in 32bit
[03:50] <rockets> ActionParsnip, alright, but do I need PAE for 4gb?
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> rockets: under 32bit, yes
[03:51] <rockets> My understanding is that using PAE involves a performance hit, at least on Windows
[03:51] <dr_willis> 64bit may also not show all of the 4 gb.
[03:51] <rockets> dr_willis, that's . . . not true.
[03:51] <rockets> dr_willis, there is no hardware issue with my machine limiting it to 3.5gb if thats what you mean
[03:51] <pokpong> If I want everyone on my LAN to be able to acces my web server typing sever.net does I have to setup DNS bind9 or it's overkill ?
[03:51] <dr_willis> rockets:  from my research it is
[03:51] <rockets> dr_willis, yeah if your machine only supports 3.5. That is not the case with mine.
[03:52] <dr_willis> been like 2 years since i last looked unto ut
[03:52] <dr_willis> some hardware vudeo cards and so forth can reserve part of the 4 gb range
[03:52] <Folklore> has anyone done qemu+ubuntu arm on x86 pc before
[03:52] <Folklore> seen docs for debian but not ubuntu
[03:53] <danny> learning to program any tips
[03:53] <dr_willis> if your cpu can do 64 bit. then i say use a 64 bit os
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> pokpong: you just need to setup a DNS account on dydns or no-ip to make your IP resolve from a name
[03:54] <Magi__zian_> https://magizian.dyndns.org:1443        password = freeaccess
[03:54] <dr_willis> pokpong:  you are refering to people on the same local lan or anywhere on the internet?
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> Magi__zian_: not available
[03:55] <danny> what is a good linux game to play
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> danny: urban terror :)  If you like counterstrike
[03:55] <dr_willis> danny:  wesnoth
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> danny: or penumbra for a survivor horro game (not free in any way, but the demo is)
[03:56] <somsip> danny: none if you're learning to program...
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> danny: playdeb has a LOT of games, just install the deb from their site to import the ppa then install games galore :)
[03:56] <dr_willis> whats with the spam messages hans_reiser?  kill that script please
[03:56] <danny> somsip: i am starting tomorrow
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> hans_reiser: can you make your bot quit spamming me please, its quite annoying
[03:57] <somsip> danny: yeah, yeah, yeah :)
[03:57] <roothorick> sigh. Why is canonical STILL trying to force the unfinished nouveau down everyone's throats?
[03:57] <danny> ActionParsnip: I have urban terrori love it
[03:57] <mbeierl> anyone know how to enable focus-follows-mouse in oneric?  I lost that with the upgrade.
[03:57] <danny> somsip: i dont no what language to learn first
[03:57] <mycelium> Is urban terror oss?
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> danny: playdeb has a lot of games
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> mycelium: indeed
[03:57] <mbeierl> !pm > hans_reiser
[03:57] <roothorick> mycelium: the new version based on ioquake3 is IIRC
[03:58] <dr_willis> danny:  python is handy
[03:58] <somsip> danny: what is your goal? I hear good things about python
[03:58] <danny> dr_willis: I was thinking of learning java
[03:58] <Magi__zian_> http://pastebin.com/PkBqsT3J
[03:59] <danny> i have some knowledge of html
[03:59] <dr_willis> python is to handy to ignore.  but i kniw more rexx and perl thwn anything else
[03:59] <somsip> danny: then I might suggest PHP to get a founding in programming techniques. not very exciting though
[03:59] <danny> somsip: ok i will try it
[04:00] <pokpong> ActionParsnip, dr_willis : Only for users on local area network where the server is also
[04:00] <danny> what is this hans reise garbage
[04:00] <pokpong> lol
[04:00] <dr_willis> pokpong:  you ciuld set up a custome hosts file on each nachine then.
[04:00] <pokpong> hans garbage ;)
[04:00] <mbeierl> danny: I asked in #ubuntu-ops and no response there
[04:01] <danny> mbeierl: ok
[04:01] <pokpong> dr_willis: users come and go...its a web portal for vistors
[04:01] <danny> is there a way to block hans_reise
[04:01] <mbeierl> danny: I don't think ignores work for PM
[04:02] <somsip> danny - can you touch type?
[04:02] <mbeierl> !ops - hans_reiser
[04:02] <mbeierl> ops! - hans_reiser
[04:02] <danny> somsip: maybe if i knew what that is
[04:03] <somsip> danny: typing without having to look at the keyboard. If you're going to program, it's a good skill to learn from the start.
[04:03] <danny> somsip: lol yea i can do that
[04:03] <roothorick> I couldn't imagine hunt-and-peck programming @.@
[04:03] <Bsims> how do I rearrange tabs in xchat?
[04:04] <somsip> roothorick: bad habits built up over many years are rather difficult to fix...
[04:04] <mycelium> I program and I can't type without looking
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> danny: type:  /ignore hans_reiser
[04:05] <mbeierl> another question: I enabled compiz/desktop cube with unity integration and now I don't know how to get workspace switcher to show up.  Is there one for unity?
[04:05] <danny> ActionParsnip: thanks
[04:05] <dr_willis> theres some user mode to ignore msgs from nonregestered nicks also
[04:06] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: "/ignore" unknown command in Pidgin for some reason.  Are there really no ops around who can  deal with this?
[04:06] <dr_willis> mbeierl: best to forget the cube. it and unuty dont play nicely
[04:06] <danny> IGNORE
[04:07] <pokpong> dr_willis, so i guess i wont have the choice then to config bind9 as a primary master dns server, right?
[04:07] <dr_willis> andchat has no /ignore either.
[04:07] <mbeierl> dr_willis: but... but.. I'm a cube addict :(
[04:07] <dr_willis> pokpong:  ive no experience with that. bur i think so.
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: or you can right click the nick in the user list on the right
[04:09] <dr_willis> mbeierl:  cube gas gone the way of bellbottom pants.....
[04:09] <dr_willis> has..
[04:09] <mbeierl> startkeylo@cpe-75-187-64-63.woh.res.rr.com  I'm ignoring you ...
[04:09] <pokpong> dr_willis, ok thanks
[04:09] <anomaliz> hello
[04:09] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: ignore doesn't appear to work for PMs... still getting message from him
[04:09] <anomaliz> aye who knows php?
[04:10] <quixotedon> i can't send email using thunderbird on gmail... :(
[04:10] <dr_willis> !php
[04:10] <mbeierl> dr_willis: but... I LIKE bell bottoms.  They fit over my boots
[04:10] <quixotedon> any solution?
[04:10] <_Neytiri_> where in the file tree are filesystems mounted form a sftp connection
[04:10] <danny> Hello ubottu
[04:10] <_Neytiri_> any op around here?
[04:10] <anomaliz> who knows symfony?
[04:10] <quixotedon> it says connection time out
[04:11] <dr_willis> _Neytiri_:  look in   .gvfs?
[04:11] <_Neytiri_> thanks dr_willis
[04:11] <danny> im just ignoring hans now
[04:11] <mbeierl> I'm left with one recourse.  Sorry folks, but I'm leaving until this can be sorted out.\
[04:11] <_Neytiri_> ya hes gotten quite annoying it would be nice if there was a op to kick him
[04:11] <mbeierl> !ops
[04:11] <mbeierl> ops
[04:12] <quixotedon> is hans_reiser a spammer???
[04:12] <DrkCodeman> did ubuntu change the default desktop enviroment away from that search thing
[04:12] <_Neytiri_> dont know how to classify him but its annoying
[04:12] <DrkCodeman> i hated it
[04:12] <dr_willis> quixotedon:  a stupid script
[04:12] <danny> ubottu
[04:12] <dr_willis> DrkCodeman:
[04:12] <quixotedon> i see
[04:13] <pokpong> I am working remote on a my ubuntu server and I'd like to wake its screen up remotly. since there is no user logged on localy how can I send the command? (sending to the tty shown localy gives me : Permission denied)
[04:13] <quixotedon> any solution to thunderbird problems??
[04:13] <dr_willis> DrkCodeman: unity is the default
[04:13] <danny> FloodBot1 should be able to ban spammers
[04:13] <DrkCodeman> dr_willis yeah what if a user doesn't like unity?
[04:13] <DrkCodeman> that search thing in my oppinion is a step back
[04:14] <dr_willis> DrkCodeman: use some ither desktop
[04:14] <_Neytiri_> test | /quit
[04:14] <DrkCodeman> fluxbox still around?
[04:14] <dr_willis> us
[04:14] <Bsims> DrkCodeman: yup
[04:14] <_Neytiri_> advrage coder knows how to block a common exploite
[04:15] <Bsims> DrkCodeman: and xfce is darn good
[04:15] <dr_willis> fluxbox is a window manager
[04:15] <danny> who uses xchat
[04:15] <_Neytiri_> i do danny
[04:15] <aeon-ltd> danny: a lot of people in here and in #xchat
[04:16] <danny> xchat for the win
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> pidgin and irssi ftw :)
[04:16] <michaeljwjr> I just wanna say, having just struggled with Linux Mint for the past week, Ubuntu is superior for me.
[04:16] <michaeljwjr> Everything just works so much nicer.
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> michaeljwjr: plus the community and support is a lot larger
[04:16] <DrkCodeman> isn't mint based on ubuntu
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> DrkCodeman: yes
[04:17] <DrkCodeman> as ubuntu is based on debian
[04:17] <danny> ActionParsnip: go to Ubuntu Software Center and get XChat
[04:17] <KFP> Hmm, how would I go about installing a specific version of a package? One that's slightly *older* than what the repos are offering?
[04:17] <Bsims> DrkCodeman: though they now are going straight to a modified debian IIRC
[04:17] <DEAD|VGA> Ubuntu is based on Debian because Redhat sucks, and Debian is KING
[04:17] <dr_willis> not quite identical relatiinship DrkCodeman
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> danny: tried it, didn't like it
[04:17] <danny> ActionParsnip: why not
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> danny: I've used pidgin (and before when it was gaim) for 11 years
[04:18] <dr_willis> bye all bbl
[04:18] <Besogon> Hi! Does someone know where to mount the hard drive?
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> danny: i've probably tried them all, pidgin just seems to gel in looks and functionality here, so I use it
[04:19] <danny> ActionParsnip: well I guess if you are more comfortable with it and it works for you keep using it
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> Besogon: you can mount it anywhere except in /proc
[04:19] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: heh I can run irssi dead drunk and have
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> danny: indeed ;). I only use irssi as I ssh home from work to pass time
[04:19] <KFP> Ops might want to kick "hans_reiser".
[04:19] <DrkCodeman> yes what KFP said
[04:19] <KFP> PM spam.
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> KFP: if you appeal in #ubuntu-ops   it may happen
[04:20] <danny> ActionParsnip: I was on here to get some help, now i am having fun and killing time
[04:20] <aeon-ltd> i assume it's a unintentional out of office reply though
[04:20] <Bsims> aeon-ltd: heh I keep praying for Ubuntu to get fist over TCP/IP support
[04:21] <pokpong> oh i found the way to do it...msg me anyone if interested
[04:21] <Besogon> ActionParsnip: yes. I know. But what is the correct place? "/media" is for removable devices. "/mnt" is for temporary mounted file system.... What else? Where should be mounted permanet file system?
[04:21] <danny> what did you find out
[04:21] <michaeljwjr> Does anyone know why Adobe Air stopped supporting Linux?
[04:21] <pp7> would it matter
[04:21] <pp7> ?
[04:21] <michaeljwjr> Yes I love tweetdeck.
[04:21] <DrkCodeman> [hans_reiser VERSION reply]: mIRC v7.1 Khaled Mardam-Bey
[04:21] <DrkCodeman> just a irc script
[04:21] <michaeljwjr> There is no Linux equivalent.
[04:22] <Besogon> ActionParsnip: I read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[04:23] <Besogon> permanet
[04:23] <Besogon> :)
[04:23] <danny>     
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> Besogon: again, literally anywhere you want
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> Besogon: you can make a subfolder in /media and use that if you want
[04:24] <Bsims> Besogon: somewhere under /mnt is traditional
[04:24] <Besogon> OK
[04:24]  * Bsims never got used to /media instead of /mnt
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> Besogon: /mnt can be used to mount ANYTHING, you can run:  sudo mount /dev/sr0 /mnt    and it will work
[04:25] <danny> ActionParsnip: how do you know so much about Ubuntu
[04:25] <Besogon> ActionParsnip: Oh!! I didn't know thank you
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> Besogon: there is no "that folder is for that reason", whoever told you that is wrong
[04:25] <somsip> Besogon: though FHS does suggest a standard, it doesn't mean it cannot be deviated from
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> Besogon: gvfs is just configured to use folders in /media to, that's all
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> danny: 11 years not give it away?
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> danny: I've used a lot more distros than just ubuntu
[04:26] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: heh what was your first distro? Mine was SuSE 6. something I remember it had the experimental 2.4.0 kernel
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: mandrake 7
[04:26] <DrkCodeman> is there a mirror for ubuntu so im not throttled on download speed?
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> DrkCodeman: do you mean for updates?
[04:27] <danny> ActionParsnip: I really use like 4
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> DrkCodeman: look into apt-fast :)
[04:27] <DrkCodeman> no i mean for the latest iso for 64 bit
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> DrkCodeman: use torrents
[04:27] <DrkCodeman> torrents suck
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> DrkCodeman: really, ubuntu torrents successfully max my connection out
[04:27] <pp7> DrkCodeman: why?
[04:27] <DrkCodeman> using billions of sockets to download is retarded
[04:28] <pp7> DrkCodeman: its not billions of sockets
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> DrkCodeman: you can use axel to download the same file from 2 places at the same time
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> DrkCodeman: there aren't even a billion sockets to use
[04:28] <Arcademan> lol
[04:28] <DrkCodeman> of course there isn't lol just making a point
[04:28] <pp7> LOL
[04:28] <pp7> DrkCodeman: what point?
[04:29] <danny> you mad no point at all
[04:29] <DrkCodeman> it's inefficient to your os and nic and it will run slower on the download rather than getting it from something like nzb
[04:29] <pp7> point is torrents are faster (with many seeds which is the case when downloading ubuntu)
[04:29] <Jim449991> hail !
[04:30] <OerHeks> DrkCodeman, it is worth the waiting
[04:30] <pp7> DrkCodeman: i've downloaded an ubuntu ISO at 3MB/sec over bittorrent
[04:30] <pp7> DrkCodeman: much faster than from a single mirrow
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> DrkCodeman: try axel with 2 sources (of the same file), it will pull it down from both at the same time, apt-fast uses the same method for system updates and installs
[04:30] <pp7> mirror*
[04:30] <DrkCodeman> winsock is horrible im not on linux yet
[04:31] <Bsims> pp7: I dunno I is happy with the  http://mirror.anl.gov
[04:31] <danny> On windows torrents suck because it contains a lot of viruses and what not, but on ubuntu it is safe
[04:31] <Jim449991> hail !!! people of this channel !
[04:31]  * pp7 is shocked by the level of retardation tonight
[04:32] <Jim449991> pp7 where ?
[04:32] <Jim449991> fukishema ?
[04:32] <computer_> I never understood what winsock even was
[04:32] <Bsims> Jim449991: Ave...
[04:32] <danny> pp7: who did you do that
[04:32] <danny> how*
[04:32] <pp7> what?
[04:32] <somsip> danny: /me does something, but it's not really encourage on a support channel
[04:32] <pp7> "/me" ?
[04:32] <danny> o ok
[04:32] <Bsims> pp7: if you are constantly downloading the cd to update you are doing it wrong
[04:32] <danny> this is a support channel
[04:33] <pp7> Bsims: u lost me
[04:33] <KFP> Hmm, how would I go about installing a specific version of a package? One that's slightly *older* than what the software centre is offering?  Apt perhaps?
[04:33]  * danny slaps pp7
[04:33] <pp7> hahha
[04:33] <somsip> danny: yes. It does get offtopic around this time of day as I believe it's late in the west, but when it's busy, the ops don't tolerate chatter that makes it difficult to focus on support
[04:34] <tonyyarusso> Hey folks.
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> KFP: if you have a source for it you can specify the version number
[04:34] <batlock> eastern time zone usa here is 11:34
[04:34] <danny> o guess the makes sense
[04:34] <pp7> yes the level of retardation makes sense :P
[04:34] <pp7> j/k
[04:34] <_Neytiri_> !8g@quLA
[04:34] <somsip> danny: hence polite requests for inconsiderates to avoid useless comments
[04:35] <_Neytiri_> F*san2&2
[04:35] <danny> ok
[04:35] <_Neytiri_> damn code issues lol sorry
[04:35] <danny> wow
[04:35] <DrkCodeman> ty tonyyarusso
[04:35] <danny> he is finally gone
[04:37] <RocketLauncher> Changing my brightness does nothing. I have an i3 370m on a Gateway NV55C.. any ideas?
[04:37] <RocketLauncher> Intel 3000HD i think..
[04:38] <danny> #ubuntu
[04:39]  * danny  is bored to death x(
[04:40]  * pp7 tazes danny
[04:41]  * danny spazes out as 50,000 volts of electricity circulate through his body
[04:41] <somsip> danny: hence polite requests for inconsiderates to avoid useless comments
[04:41] <somsip> :)
[04:42] <danny> im trying to have some fun
[04:42] <somsip> danny: #ubuntu-offtopic maybe?
[04:43] <danny> no i like the people here and no one is in need of assistance so i thought maybe i should have some fun
[04:45] <danny> anyone want to play some urban terror
[04:46] <linuxuz3r> is that multiplayer
[04:46] <danny> linuxuz3r: yes it is
[04:48] <jaxxdrew> join/ ##C
[04:48] <danny> jaxxdrew: what is that for
[04:49] <danny> somesip: do you play urban terror
[04:50] <danny> somsip: do you play urban terror
[04:50] <aeon-ltd> Ok this is not the channel for that
[04:50] <aeon-ltd> danny: #ubuntu-offtopic is more suited
[04:50] <Jim449991> how can i see the command lines in a gnome 2 launcher?
[04:51] <Jim449991> i did it long time a go and it won't show right now because i want to copy it in another system
[04:51] <danny> aeon-ltd: just trying to make small will waiting for people who need assistance
[04:52] <danny> ment to say small talk
[04:56] <danny> why is it when some people write something it is in red
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> danny: Most likely it's because they're talking to you.
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> depends a bit on your client setup
[04:57] <lgc> Hi. Is there some tool that acts as grep within .odt or .doc files?
[04:58] <pers3us>  :)
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> !info odt2txt | lgc
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> lgc: Use that on the odt, then grep the output
[04:59] <lgc> tonyyarusso, thanks. Is there something like that for .docs?
[04:59] <tonyyarusso> lgc: Not sure
[05:00] <danny> grep
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> !wv | lgc
[05:00] <pers3us> Use microsoft office if you have on wine, it supports regex (not sure)
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> !info wv | lgc
[05:01] <manny> hello new to Ubuntu
[05:01] <danny> hey
[05:01] <lgc> tonyyarusso, there used to be something called tracker, which indexed the whole contents of a file system, but it took forever and somehow the indization would disappear.
[05:01] <Guest40194> ok
[05:02] <danny> night men and women off to bed its getting late
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> !info jodconverter | lgc
[05:02] <Guest40194> any tips anyone can give me to get better at using ubuntu?
[05:02] <Guest40194> been at it for about a week
[05:02] <pp7> Guest40194: how u like it?
[05:02] <Guest40194> all i have is questions the more i read and use it
[05:02] <Guest40194> i love it
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> lgc: So with that you might do jodconverter | odt2txt | grep
[05:02] <danny> the website was a big help for me
[05:03] <Guest40194> Ubuntu.com?
[05:03] <danny> yea under the community forums
[05:03] <Guest40194> ok
[05:04] <Guest40194> are you an experienced linux user?
[05:04] <lgc> tonyyarusso, thanks.
[05:04] <danny> Guest40194:http://www.ubuntu.com/community
[05:04] <danny> yes i am
[05:05] <Guest40194> how long have you been using ubuntu?
[05:05] <pp7> 4 years
[05:05] <danny> about 4-5 years
[05:05] <lauratika> very stuborn issue with proxy in 11.10 cant connect to internet on banshee, totem, ubuntu software centre, synaptic. not using proxy at all but running totem in terminal says can't access proxy server something is messing up the connection to internet... browser, skype and ubuntu one working no problem really need some help
[05:05] <Guest40194> wow
[05:06] <Guest40194> i cant wait until i have a month under my belt cant imagine a year
[05:06] <pp7> lauratika: been there
[05:06] <lauratika> really?!
[05:06] <lauratika> wow pp7 now feel lees frustrated, now just curious on what this is all about any idea?
[05:06] <pp7> lauratika: u sure u disabled it in the global network settings?
[05:06] <Guest39730> hai
[05:07] <lauratika> yes it is, via networks?
[05:07] <pp7> yea
[05:07] <lauratika> or should i go somewhere else?
[05:07] <pp7> what Ubuntu version?
[05:07] <lauratika> 11.10
[05:09] <pp7> hmm
[05:10] <pp7> lauratika: so u set proxy method to "none"?
[05:12] <lauratika> yes i did, then also apply system wide
[05:12] <pp7> lauratika: and still no luck?
[05:12] <lauratika> so far i kow banshee and totem if run as root will connect to internet
[05:12] <pp7> lauratika: if only i could remember how i fixed it
[05:12] <lauratika> that would be awsome
[05:13] <pp7> heh
[05:13] <Lafiir> When I replace Empathy with Pidgin, can I rename the Pidgin-entry in the messaging menu to 'Chat', along with its monochrome icon and more importantly its position in the menu (directly below the status-selector)?
[05:13] <lauratika> and now if a launch totem in terminal and trying to connect to internet says Cannot connect to proxy (127.0.0.1)
[05:13] <lauratika> this issue has been hanging wild crazy for days now
[05:14] <pp7> lauratika: what does: env | grep proxy    return?
[05:15] <lauratika> run with sudo?
[05:15] <pp7> no
[05:16] <lauratika> http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:8123/
[05:16] <lauratika> https_proxy=https://127.0.0.1:8123/
[05:16] <pp7> ok...
[05:16] <lauratika> but i didnt set those ports only for vidalia and polipo
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> 8123 - isn't that Squid?
[05:17] <lauratika> but i uninstall both
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> Or polipo, yeah.
[05:17] <lauratika> yes but no more polipo
[05:17] <pp7> lauratika: but u set those ports previously?
[05:17] <lauratika> yeah to be set for opera and chrome
[05:17] <pp7> lauratika: so u just gotta find out where those environment variables are stored
[05:18] <pp7> lauratika: and remove it
[05:18] <chris_ace2> Hi, I was just given a copy off my friend of 8.10 how do I just put the CD in to upgrade?
[05:18] <lauratika> but polipo config file it's gone
[05:18] <lauratika> how can i know that?
[05:18] <pp7> lauratika: yea but doesnt look like it restored proxy settings :P
[05:18] <lauratika> cause that is creating the issue
[05:19] <pp7> lauratika: what does cat /etc/environment return?
[05:19] <lauratika> without sudo right?
[05:19] <pp7> yes
[05:19] <lauratika> PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games"
[05:19] <lauratika> LANGUAGE="en_US:es_MX:en_AU:en"
[05:19] <lauratika> LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
[05:19] <lauratika> LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
[05:19] <lauratika> LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
[05:19] <FloodBot1> lauratika: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:20] <seroquel> i have a directory with a ton of differently named 7zip files. will this extract them all into the folder?
[05:20] <pp7> lauratika: hmm nothing proxy related?
[05:20] <lauratika> but the first output show some proxy rigth?
[05:20] <seroquel> for * in *.7z;do 7z e “$*”;done
[05:20] <pp7> lauratika: yea
[05:20] <lauratika> where can this proxy setting be stored?
[05:21] <lauratika> and also it's only on this account, cause running banshee as root connects no prblems at all
[05:21] <seroquel> is this correct syntax to unzip lots of 7zip files in the same directory at the same time? for * in *.7z;do 7z e “$*”;done
[05:22] <RichTUK> chris_ace2, what version are you on did you say?
[05:22] <magn3ts> how can I mute my audio via a command in the command line?
[05:22] <pp7> lauratika: try gconftool -s /system/http_proxy/use_proxy -t bool false (no sudo)
[05:22] <magn3ts> preferably one that can be non-interactive?
[05:22] <magn3ts> I need to give my roomie a way to mute my audio :P
[05:23] <chris_ace2> RichTUK: I am currently on the previous version to 8.10 on my other computer is it a simple, put CD in and upgrade?
[05:23] <lauratika> pp7: done but still not working
[05:23] <pp7> lauratika: hmmm
[05:23] <RichTUK> chris_ace2 what version are you on at the moment?
[05:24] <chris_ace2> RichTUK: how do i work that out?
[05:24] <lauratika> wow seems im stuck between a proxy and my pc...
[05:24] <chris_ace2> 6 something i think
[05:24] <pp7> lauratika: try sudo http_proxy= (enter)
[05:24] <pp7> lauratika: and try without sudo
[05:24] <RichTUK> chris_ace2, if you turn the computer upside down it should say, maybe, thats where mine is
[05:25] <pp7> lauratika: do same for https
[05:25] <lauratika> with sudo brings the help menu with out bring the terminal name again
[05:25] <chris_ace2> RichTUK: which one do i turn upside down?
[05:25] <pp7> ah
[05:26] <pp7> lauratika: try sudo export http_proxy= (enter)
[05:26] <RichTUK> chris_ace2, the computer you want to upgrade
[05:26] <lauratika> sorry, with sudo brings help menu and without it dont fix it
[05:26] <lauratika> i mean still blocked by the proxy
[05:26] <chris_ace2> RichTUK: will do that now the tower box or monitor screen?
[05:26] <pp7> lauratika: try with "export"
[05:27] <lauratika> only export?
[05:27] <pp7> no
[05:27] <lauratika> in terminal you mean?
[05:27] <pp7> what i said above
[05:27] <pp7> yes in terminal
[05:27] <seroquel> i just installed ubuntu on my laptop that has an ssd
[05:27] <RichTUK> chris_ace2, have you tried unpluging and reconnecting it to the power suply
[05:27] <seroquel> is there anything special i have to do? i am running ubuntu 11.10
[05:28] <lauratika> you want to see the output is big?
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> seroquel: You mean because of the SSD?  Nope.
[05:28] <chris_ace2> RichTUK: i will try that now
[05:28] <pp7> lauratika: no
[05:28] <acu> what ubuntu corresponds to debian squeeze ?
[05:28] <pp7> lauratika: error?
[05:28] <lauratika> export without quotes rigth
[05:29] <lauratika> no error more like the help menu
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> acu: There isn't a direct correspondence.
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> acu: However, 10.04 and Squeeze had similar freeze dates.
[05:29] <acu> well - indirect closest guess
[05:29] <chris_ace2> RichTUK: says NTLDR is missing
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> Squeeze was slightly later.
[05:29] <pp7> lauratika: yes
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> acu: So, some mix of 10.04 and 10.10 probably.
[05:29] <lauratika> well bring the help menu
[05:30] <pp7> hmm
[05:30] <RichTUK> chris_ace2, you might need to replace the Network Tearducr Lens Drive Recovery to use the cd
[05:30] <acu> tonyyarusso,  great - I have two laptops with Atheros wifi - one 5K one 9K and none of them works - well I can see them by iwconfig (wlan shows up) but it does not see the wifi network - I do not know what to do
[05:30] <chris_ace2> is that expensive RichTUK ?
[05:31] <Guest7196> hello
[05:31] <lauratika> so basically the proxy is set up some where rigth pp7?
[05:31] <pp7> yep
[05:31] <Guest7196> How do I join a ubuntu newbie server?
[05:32] <RichTUK> chris_ace2, it wast the last time it happend to me, there might be a workaround tho, you might be able to do an RPM upgrade like Fedora, do you have the internet
[05:32] <w30> Guest /j #ubuntu-beginners
[05:32] <pp7> lauratika: anything proxy related in: ~/.bash_profile   ?
[05:33] <chris_ace2> RichTUK: yes i have dsl internet how do i update?
[05:33] <w30> Guest7196,  /j #ubuntu-beginners
[05:33] <PaperSpeaker> When I first install ubuntu, what should I install?
[05:33] <PaperSpeaker> ok
[05:33] <PaperSpeaker> thanks
[05:34] <pp7> lauratika: actually: ~/.profile
[05:34] <RichTUK> chris_ace2, if you go to the cmd and type sudo atp-get rpm ubuntu 8.10-package-upgrade it might work
[05:35] <chris_ace2> gives me a error doesn't know cmd RichTUK
[05:35] <RichTUK> chris_ace2, hmmm strange
[05:35] <lauratika> pp7: i dont have .profile in my home folder
[05:35] <pp7> lauratika: strange
[05:35] <lauratika> find it
[05:35] <pp7> lauratika: check again
[05:35] <lauratika> its a file not a folder
[05:36] <pp7> lauratika: correct
[05:36] <RichTUK> chris_ace2, maybe you need to update your repos
[05:36] <chris_ace2> RichTUK how do i do that?
[05:37] <lauratika> pp7: nothing proxy related and now we noe the rascal is somewhere but not where damn!
[05:37] <pp7> lauratika: hmm
[05:38] <pp7> lauratika: have u rebooted since having this problem?
[05:38] <lauratika> yes many times and also after disabling the proxy in network menu and also after uninstalling vidalia and polipo
[05:39] <RichTUK> chris_ace2, pacman-Syy ubuntu8.10-core-pakage-update -S upgrade 8.10
[05:39] <lauratika> i have a guest account on this pc and has the same issue
[05:39] <chris_ace2> woo too thank you RichTUK its doing something!
[05:39] <ghoti> If I `ufw allow {yadda}`, I gather that ufw sets up my iptables directly, but does it store my change anywhere?  If I have custom allow rules, what's the recommended way to make them come back when I reboot?
[05:40] <RichTUK> chris_ace2, awesome, whats it saying in terminal
[05:40] <chris_ace2> RichTUK i typed it into google and found it
[05:41] <RichTUK> chris_ace2, dont be an idiot its a promt command
[05:42] <RichTUK> chris_ace2, maybe its a vga problem tho, i remember there was a common problem that vga took power away from the cd drives in 8.10
[05:42] <chris_ace2> RichTUK i have a ati card
[05:42] <RichTUK> chris_ace2, ah maybe its that, linux has huge ati issues, sometimes i think it works best with no gfx card attall
[05:43] <MahaVishnu> nvidia is the way to go for linux.
[05:44] <chris_ace2> ati is great has always worked and i am trying to upgrade to 8.10
[05:44] <dr_willis> ati has linux issues. :-)  not linuxs fault
[05:44] <dj_segfault> The problem is, every year or so that flip flops.  For a while ATI worked with Linux much more closely than NVidia,  but right now NVidia works better.
[05:45] <MahaVishnu> idk, i've always had problems with ati + linux so I just stopped buying them.
[05:45] <chris_ace2> should i upgrade to nvidia before upgrading to 8.10?
[05:45] <dr_willis> we will hav to see how ati and nvudia handle wayland when it gets here.
[05:45] <MahaVishnu> chris_ace2, no see if your card works.. why wouldn't you.
[05:45] <chris_ace2> it won't boot
[05:45] <dr_willis> !8.10
[05:45] <MahaVishnu> what do you mean it won't boot thats not telling me crap
[05:46] <chris_ace2> ntldr errors
[05:46] <chris_ace2> Whatever that is
[05:46] <Flyfox> you should get a gtx 590, much better than ati
[05:46] <mr0wl> hey
[05:46] <MahaVishnu> ntldr? isn't that windows related
[05:46] <mr0wl> does anyone know where gnome-mplayer stores it's screenshots?
[05:46] <chris_ace2> i need one of those flyfox?
[05:46] <truepurple> I see flash listed in synaptic, but how do I tell whether it is 64bit or not?
[05:47] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, if your on 64 it will show you 64bit packages won't it?
[05:47] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, I don't know, is that the case?
[05:47] <dr_willis> flash in synaptic is a flash installer tool.not flash itself
[05:47] <chris_ace2> MahaVishnu i think i have hard drive issues at the moment because i was looking at 8.10 64byte release
[05:47] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, yea pretty dang sure.
[05:48] <MahaVishnu> chris_ace2, are you dual booting? cause ntldr is for like xp or windows 7 or something
[05:48] <chris_ace2> MahaVishnu no it is only linux on it its on the other computer
[05:49] <MahaVishnu> huh?
[05:49] <chris_ace2> RichTUK told me packman -Syy
[05:49] <chris_ace2> which worked
[05:49] <chris_ace2> but now it says ntldr issues
[05:49] <truepurple> Is 11.1.102 the latest version of flash for ubuntu/linux?
[05:49] <pers3us> chris_ace2 packman? Have you installed arch or ubuntu?
[05:50] <MahaVishnu> chris_ace2, yea are you even on ubuntu !?
[05:50] <siianeukbunda> who from indonesia ?
[05:51] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, I have 11.1.102.55
[05:51] <siianeukbunda> please
[05:51] <Guest43976> http://paynize.com/ref.php?page=act/ref&invcod=9872
[05:51] <RichTUK> hes trying to upgrade to 8.10, i dont know what he is on now, he said its NEC Syrix
[05:51] <chris_ace2> pers3us & MahaVishnu yes
[05:52] <MahaVishnu> Syrix.
[05:52] <MahaVishnu> what the heck is that.\
[05:52] <truepurple>  I tried to install flash listed in synaptic but it gave me a strange error about dependencies "flashplugin-nonfree: Depends: flashplugin-installer but it is not going to be installed"
[05:52] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, in a terminal ( close synaptic ) sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[05:52] <chris_ace2> cyrix
[05:53] <chris_ace2> its my old computer
[05:53] <MahaVishnu> idk what cyrix is is that unix/linux ?
[05:53] <RichTUK> what os are you running atm chris_ace2
[05:53] <dr_willis> you have done a   sudo apt-get update  and  apt-get  upgrade     recently  truepurple ?
[05:53] <MahaVishnu> probably plan9 lol!
[05:53] <chris_ace2> ubuntu RichTUK
[05:53] <RichTUK> which ubunu
[05:54] <pers3us> Cyrix is brand name? We want to know what os are you running. RichTUK does uname -a tell you the version and all?
[05:54] <chris_ace2> this computer is a mac
[05:54] <chris_ace2> the other is the cyrix computer
[05:54] <dr_willis> cyrix is an old cpu i recall
[05:54] <MahaVishnu> cyrix makes processors right?
[05:54] <MahaVishnu> ahh!
[05:54] <MahaVishnu> wow. how old is that machine chris_ace2
[05:54] <chris_ace2> 4 years
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> 4 years aint so old
[05:55] <MahaVishnu> I thought they went out of business or something long ago.
[05:55] <dr_willis> old cruddy junk when there were new.
[05:55] <MahaVishnu> yea it's not.
[05:55] <pers3us> chris_ace2 really?
[05:55] <chris_ace2> it was a anniversary present from my wife
[05:55] <MahaVishnu> is this guy for real ?
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: nice nick btw :)
[05:55] <RichTUK> chris_ace2 maybe yu could update to a commodore 64 before you try updating an OS
[05:55] <MahaVishnu> thanks ;-P
[05:56] <pers3us> seriously is this guy for real?
[05:56] <chris_ace2> lol RichTUK thats a old computer!
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> pers3us: what spec is it, I missed the start
[05:56] <dr_willis> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrix
[05:56] <pers3us> no specs dude!
[05:56] <Xeo_> my name in the terminal is root@(none) how do I change the (none) part
[05:56] <pers3us> he is using some old shitty computer that i have never heard of ..
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> I have a 4 year old laptop with a dual core 1.3Ghz 32bit CPU and 3Gb RAM
[05:57] <dr_willis> !hostname | Xeo_
[05:57] <Xeo_> thank you
[05:57] <chris_ace2> is it cyrix too ActionParsnip?
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> RichTUK: what is the make and model please?
[05:57] <truepurple> dr_willis, a week ago
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> chris_ace2: no its some core2duo thingy
[05:57] <chris_ace2> I can put two xeon processors in this
[05:58] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, will that install the plugin as well, or do I need to also install that synaptic listing?
[05:58] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, I believe it does it all for you.
[05:58] <dr_willis> truepurple:  try it now then try installing again
[05:58] <RichTUK> ActionParsnip, make and model of what, its chris_ace2 computer not mine, specs look nice tho, whats the cooling like chris
[05:58] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, have you done sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[05:58] <MahaVishnu> to get java etc.
[05:59] <chris_ace2> good thank you RichTUK
[05:59] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, I believe so
[05:59] <pers3us> I am out of here.. you are scary chris_ace2
[05:59] <Xeo_> ok 127.0.0.1 hoast is in my hosts file and host is in my hostname file but it still displays as (non)
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> RichTUK: I thought you'd seen the make and model of the system in question...
[05:59] <chris_ace2> sorry pers3us thank you for help
[06:00] <MahaVishnu> Xeo_, it goes like this in /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1	localhost
[06:00] <MahaVishnu> 127.0.1.1	Media
[06:00] <MahaVishnu> Xeo_, Media is my hostname
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> Cyrix MII 300Mhz. Power!!!!!!
[06:00] <Xeo_> i have that in tn there as well
[06:00] <truepurple> dr_willis, the flash is loading, but that flash install option is unchecked in synaptic, should I install it?
[06:00] <chris_ace2> ActionParsnip mine is 733mhz LOL
[06:00] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, How do I check for sure?
[06:01] <MahaVishnu> Xeo_, what does /etc/hostname say ?
[06:01] <Xeo_> how do i msg like that?
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> chris_ace2: nice, wikipedia says that if someone used and AWE64 soundcard it could only use 32 of the channels
[06:01] <zeep2986> what option do i need to input to rmdir with files still in it
[06:01] <dr_willis> truepurple: what flash is loading
[06:02] <chris_ace2> ActionParsnip is that what is causing my error?
[06:02] <truepurple> dr_willis, a flash game
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> zeep2986: if you use:   rm -r folder     it will delete all files and folders and sub folders in the folder you name
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> chris_ace2: what is your error?
[06:02] <zeep2986> thank you
[06:02] <RichTUK> ntldr was the error i think he said
[06:02] <pers3us> some ntldr thing :P
[06:03] <dr_willis> truepurple: if its working.. leave stuff alone i guess
[06:03] <chris_ace2> yes thank you RichTUK & pers3us
[06:03] <Xeo_> nvm i got it after reboot
[06:03] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, apt-cache policy ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:03] <RichTUK> chris_ace2, have you tried to reboot
[06:03] <pers3us> can you write your error once again? and what are you doing right now.  chris_ace2
[06:03] <chris_ace2> RichTUK 8 times now :(
[06:03] <truepurple> dr_willis, well the original issue of graphics not updating properly still partially exists.
[06:04] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, so type that, even if I have it already?
[06:04] <RichTUK> chris_ace2, what file syslem are you using, also do you have a cd drive in that
[06:04] <chris_ace2> pers3us NTLDR is Missing, press any ket to restart
[06:04] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, yea and does it say like '56' for installed and '56' for candidate
[06:05] <pers3us> I am not sure but this happens when you have ntfs partition ..
[06:05] <MahaVishnu> chris_ace2, and have you NEVER had windows on that computer, cause ntldr is for windows!!!!!!!!
[06:05] <pers3us> marked as active
[06:05] <chris_ace2> i did once
[06:05] <pers3us> any partition with windows?
[06:05] <MahaVishnu> do you still have an ntfs partition ?
[06:05] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, it says 43
[06:06] <pers3us> i think he has one of the partition as windows..
[06:06] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, under installed ?
[06:06] <chris_ace2> I don't know how to check
[06:06] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, and candidate
[06:06] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, you got it then.
[06:06] <pers3us> ok you have the ubuntu cd with you right?
[06:06] <chris_ace2> yes pers3us
[06:07] <truepurple> perlstein, no, I used a net install from unetbootin
[06:07] <Xeo_> sorry where is the config for vncserver to set it to start a gnome screen not an x screen?
[06:07] <pers3us> ok put that in the drive and boot with it.. can you boot into ubuntu?
[06:07] <chris_ace2> pers3us yes it starts spins up then comes up with NTLDR
[06:07] <chris_ace2> error
[06:08] <pers3us> ok no no ..
[06:08] <Jim449991> how to force the network in the terminal to connect ?
[06:08] <MahaVishnu> chris_ace2, can you download a fresh ubuntu iso on a different pc and md5 check it before you burn it to disk and then install from that .... thats what I'd do.
[06:08] <pers3us> no re
[06:08] <pers3us> he is not able to boot into ubuntu
[06:09] <chris_ace2> I don't think its booting properly anymore.
[06:09] <MahaVishnu> yea he needs a new ubuntu .iso I think that disk is bad.
[06:09] <Veovis_Muaddib> Where can I go for UEFI help?
[06:09] <truepurple> dr_willis, MahaVishnu, is the install from this page -http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ the same as the install from that command?
[06:09] <Veovis_Muaddib> UEFI shell help
[06:09] <pers3us> are are you booting into cd or not? i mean is cd your first boot device?
[06:09] <RichTUK> chris_ace2, does your computer know to look for the cd on boot?
[06:09] <pers3us> chris_ace2
[06:10] <hellslinger> I can boot from USB stick on my UEFI system, but I cannot boot after installed, anyone know what to do
[06:10] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, yea pretty much
[06:10] <chris_ace2> I can hear the CD spin up then when it comes to the other part after checking the memory says NTLDR
[06:10] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, since it wants you to use apt for ubuntu anyway lol.
[06:10] <chris_ace2> So I guess not?
[06:10] <RichTUK> chris_ace2, you need to get into your bios
[06:10] <RichTUK> and tell it to boot from cd
[06:11] <pers3us> aarrgghh .. whatever you do your cd will spin.
[06:11] <chris_ace2> how?
[06:11] <dr_willis> truepurple: i only use the packages from the repos. i never directly download from adobe.
[06:11] <MahaVishnu> chris_ace2, esc. del f12 it will tell you on your screen on boot how to enter setup or bios.
[06:11] <truepurple> dr_willis, why is that?
[06:11] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, should I install the version listed in synaptic as well?
[06:11] <chris_ace2> Ok I will press them all together?
[06:11] <dr_willis> its easier.. for one rhing truepurple
[06:12] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, is your flash not working now?
[06:12] <pers3us> the moment your computer power turns on, see on the bottom of the screen, there would be some things listed like press this to go there .. read and tell us chris_ace2
[06:12] <truepurple> dr_willis,  MahaVishnu the option for setting is darkened out in flash, any idea why/how I can enable the option?
[06:12] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, right, it is not working right
[06:12] <CarlFK> chris_ace2: or try unplugging your keyboard - you may get an error saying "press X to enter setup" plug it back in, it whatever X is
[06:12] <chris_ace2> Ok, firmware update
[06:12] <MahaVishnu> idk flash sucks man.
[06:12] <pers3us> chris_ace2 don't press together
[06:12] <chris_ace2> Thats the CD?
[06:12] <lystra> Anyone here get iSCSI working with a bonded interface?
[06:12] <pers3us> nope
[06:12] <chris_ace2> brb going to try again
[06:12] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, and you have flashplugin-installer installed now ?
[06:12] <pers3us> there will be some options
[06:12] <pers3us> k
[06:12] <dr_willis> i basically turn off flash these days
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: using the repos is gppd as when a new version is updated on the repo, you will get the new flash, if you manually install you will need to manually update too
[06:13] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, yes, but not the non-free flash listing in synaptic
[06:13] <Transx3> I just got done installing Ubuntu 11.11 but when i try to boot it gets stick at verifying dmi pool data...
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: if you are using oneiric, enable the partner repo and install adobe-installer
[06:13] <Transx3> Any help?
[06:13] <chris_ace2> Ok boot off CD :)
[06:13] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, all I needed was flashplugin-downloader & flashplugin-installer
[06:13] <chris_ace2> Thank you pers3us!
[06:13] <truepurple> ActionParsnip,  it is 11.04
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> Transx3: turn off the system and pull the power from the tower, leave it off for 10 - 20 mins then re-attach and turn on
[06:14] <Transx3> Really?
[06:14] <Transx3> Lol
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> !info adobe-installer natty
[06:14] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, you don't have trouble with flash screens updating right sometimes or setting option darkened out?
[06:14] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip, it's called flashplugin-installer afaik
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> Transx3: yes, your RAM is full of errors, if you power off, the errors will clear and you can boot
[06:14] <Transx3> Well, thank you.
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: yeah, or flashplugin-nonfree, either is fine
[06:15] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, got any idea why settings would be darkened out for my flash or how I might enable it?
[06:15] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, yes my settings are greyed out.
[06:15] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, I have never needed to look at that though until now..
[06:15] <pers3us> chris_ace2 . no prob
[06:15] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, I tried that, but it said it couldn't install, complained of dependancies
[06:15] <Transx3> Were you guys trying to get flash working on chromium or Firefox?
[06:16] <Transx3> I had to do that not too long ago on lubuntu
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: just install flashplugin-nonfree and you will get flash, if you have a 64bit OS then I suggest you use the sevenmachines PPA (assuming its up) and install the package there
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: can you give a PASTEBIN of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'      Thanks
[06:16] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, install it over the flash plugin installer that seems to come with its own?
[06:17] <MahaVishnu> ok im confused ActionParsnip the package is flashplugin-installer isn't it ? Iwhen I search for flashplugin-nonfree I find flashplugin-installer
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: i believe one is  a transitional
[06:17] <MahaVishnu> idk what that mean ;\
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> !info flashplugin-nonfree natty
[06:18] <MahaVishnu> ic
[06:18] <MahaVishnu> cause the package is 32bit but it runs as 64bit ?
[06:19] <MahaVishnu> ii  flashplugin-downloader:i386            11.1.102.55ubuntu0.11.10.1                 Adobe Flash Player plugin downloader
[06:19] <MahaVishnu> and im on 64 bit too..
[06:19] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, that command gave me no output at all, just threw me to a invalid prompt (you know, the kind without a directory address that doesn't take commands)
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: on oneiric?
[06:19] <MahaVishnu> yea
[06:19] <pers3us> arre no .. package is 32 bit but uses a wrapper to run on 64bit.
[06:20] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, hit ctrl+c to return to a normal prompt.
[06:20] <pers3us> what is the isues?
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: uninstall both and enable the partner repo, you can then install adobe-installer and get 64bit flash
[06:20] <pers3us> MahaVishnu?
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: it's one long command
[06:20] <truepurple> pers3us, I can not get flash to work right
[06:20] <pers3us> ok
[06:20] <Veovis_Muaddib> Can anyone point me in the direction of UEFI shell help?  #efi and #uefi don't exist, no information that I need in Google, etc...
[06:20] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, I copy pasted it in one piece, and it did as I described
[06:21] <MahaVishnu> !partner repo
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: http://paste.ubuntu.com/762495/
[06:21] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip, got a link for how to add partner repo ?
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: like that
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: you can uncommemnt the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list   or you can run the software sources app in dash
[06:22] <maum> where is synaptic on ubuntu 11.10?
[06:22] <MahaVishnu> yea I just figured that out thank you ;-)
[06:22] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, that doesn't help, but looking closer, I see I missed a ' at the end when I was copy/pasting
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> maum: in the repos
[06:22] <maum> ActionParsnip, I couldn't find it
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: you gotta be accurate dude
[06:22] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip, I upgraded from 11.04 im guessing it didn't take my flash with it ?
[06:23] <maum> ActionParsnip, repos? where it is?
[06:23] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, You're not telling me anything I don't know, it is called a accident
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> !info synaptic | maum
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> maum: be sure you have universe repo enabled
[06:23] <maum> ActionParsnip,how can I do?
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: I know
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> maum: there is software  sources in dash
[06:24] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/762497/
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> maum: or you can uncomment the lines in sources.list
[06:24] <maum> ActionParsnip, should I install it from terminal using apt-get?
[06:25] <maum> ??
[06:26] <pers3us> maum why do you want synaptic?
[06:26] <maum> pers3us, not nessary to get synaptic on ubuntu 11.10?
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> maum: whichever way you prefer
[06:26] <pers3us> truepurple can you tell me what is the problem you facing? i saw your paste, what is the issue?
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: seems sevenmachines ppa is totally gone :(
[06:26] <maum> pers3us, because it installs appendencies..
[06:27] <pers3us> maum you don't need synaptic at all, if you work with command line or use software center
[06:27] <maum> pers3us, because it installs dependencies
[06:27] <pers3us> maum: software center does that too
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> maum: they all do, or the package system would break
[06:27] <maum> pers3us, really? on ubuntu 11.04 . it doesn't
[06:27] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip, is this ok? I did what you said http://pastebin.com/P0CXFzSy
[06:27] <pers3us> maum who told you that? It does ..
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> maum: it does, if an app needs deps they are downloaded automatically
[06:28] <truepurple> pers3us, flash screens don't update right, scrolling up and down on the page fixes it, and settings option is grayed out, so messing with hardware acceleration like someone else suggested doesn't seem possible.
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: looks good, you can clean up with:  sudo dpkg -P flashplugin-downloader:i386
[06:28] <pers3us> truepurple basically, at the moment your flash is working, though not working correctly?
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: you could go for the manual install method with the .so, shame natty doesn't have the love :(
[06:29] <maum> pers3us, when I want to install ffmpeg, it has many dependencies but the package center didn't find the dependencies but synaptic did. so...
[06:29] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, does that have anything to do with nspluginwrapper? I uninstalled that upon instructions, I was told it was buggy
[06:29] <truepurple> pers3us, yes
[06:29] <maum> ActionParsnip, where can I find the menu  (System > Administration ) on ubuntu 11.10? I cannot find it.
[06:30] <maum> where can I find the menu  (System > Administration ) on ubuntu 11.10? I cannot find it.
[06:30] <pers3us> maum I think you didn't run a simple upate command after install. which downloads list of packages, whereas it gets downloaded in synaptic (not sure)  anyway, just run this command in the  sudo apt-get update
[06:30] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip, thanks! maybe my flash won't freeze all the time now. wondering why I had 32bit flash though.
[06:30] <maum> pers3us, ok btw where can I find the menu  (System > Administration ) on ubuntu 11.10? I cannot find it.
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: its how it goes, unless you take the extra steps you'll get the 32bit
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> maum: sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[06:31] <KFP> maum: See the "cog" in the upper right corner.
[06:31] <pers3us> truepurple idoubt nspluginwrapper is culprit here, i think Adobe released a version which supports 64bit
[06:31] <truepurple> pers3us, ActionParsnip worth noting is that earlier version seemed to work fine, this flash problem came out of nowhere, but how can I use a earlier version if this is the case?
[06:31] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip, oh wait wasn't thinking. So if you don't enable the parner repo you get 32bit flash every time?
[06:31] <MahaVishnu> never knew that.
[06:32] <truepurple> pers3us, Yes, I got the weblink, but I am told that flash plugin installer is the same
[06:32] <maum> KFP: I don't understand
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: yes
[06:32] <pers3us> okso you have latest 64 bit one installed or the old one with nspluginwrapper installd?
[06:32] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, what is sevenmachines ppa, and should I really care whether it is installed or not?
[06:32] <KFP> maum:  The icon next to your user name and the clock.
[06:33] <truepurple> pers3us, I just reinstalled it, so I take it that is the latest, I read off a number and someone else said that is the version they have too
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> maum: all the icons from those menus is in dash, you will have a filter on the right but a simple text search will show what you need
[06:33] <pers3us> hmm .. truepurple can you paste the output of this command dpkg --get-selections |grep flash\
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: its an old 3rd party ppa to get beta 64bit flash in Ubbuntu, it is now stable and in the partner repo now, so maintaining the PPA is redundant
[06:33] <pers3us> ignore the slash in the last
[06:33] <maum> there is one system setting menu but there is no System > Administration menu
[06:34] <MahaVishnu> finding out I had 32bit flash on 64bit really makes me wonder what else I don't know about ubuntu.
[06:34] <pers3us> truepurple this command dpkg --get-selections |grep flash
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> maum: what are you wanting?
[06:34] <maum> KFP, ActionParsnip : there is system setting menu but no administration menu.
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> maum: which icon?
[06:35] <truepurple> pers3us, flashplugin-installer	install  flashplugin-nonfree	install
[06:35] <maum> KFP, ActionParsnip : I want to find administration menu
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> maum: yes but to then do what?
[06:35] <pers3us> gimme a moment truepurple
[06:35] <maum> ActionParsnip, to change gdm theme
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> maum: search dash for:  login
[06:36] <truepurple> pers3us, also paste.ubuntu.com/762497/
[06:36] <maum> ActionParsnip, I don't know what it mean
[06:37] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, so you play flash games or use flash heavy websites? ever had trouble with flash screens updating properly?
[06:37] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, just do sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer && sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-downloader. then edit /etc/apt/sources.list remove the # from before the 2 lines under partner repo. save the file. do a sudo apt-get update then do a sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin then in a terminal type flash-player-properties to edit the settings ?
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> maum: press your windows key, dash is now showing, use the keyboard to search in the search box and type:  login    then wait
[06:38] <MahaVishnu> that look good parsnip ?
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: i'd add --purge to the remove commands
[06:38] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, So what does all that do in the end?
[06:39] <maum> ActionParsnip, user account found by it
[06:39] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, give you 64bit flash and the ability to edit the settings ... what you wanted it to do!
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> maum: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-change-lightdm-login-screen.html
[06:39] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, I just did all that and my flash is working better now.
[06:40] <truepurple> ActionParsnip,  "sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-downloader." ?
[06:40] <Transx3> Hey action, th at
[06:40] <maum> ActionParsnip,  ok
[06:40] <Transx3> Hey action, that didn't help,  any other ideas?
[06:40] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, what bad behavior was it doing before that it isn't doing now?
[06:40] <pers3us> truepurple if MahaVishnu's method doesn't solve your problem, you try installing it manually. after downloading from adobe =
[06:40] <excelsio1> hello
[06:41] <excelsior> hello
[06:41] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, was just real slow before.
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Transx3: what is your issue?
[06:41] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, also was no way ( that I know of ) to edit the settings.
[06:41] <truepurple> pers3us, I was told it that was the same thing as the install flash plugin installer thing
[06:42] <truepurple> pers3us, minus updates
[06:42] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, honestly dude. just do what I told you lol. I gave you every step!!
[06:42] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, MahaVishnu  "sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-downloader." ?
[06:42] <Transx3> I just got door installing ubuntu and when ever i try to boot it gets stick at a black screen with white letters. It says different ide channels and shows all my drives and at the bottom it says, "verifying dmi pool data".
[06:42] <Transx3> *done
[06:43] <Transx3> *stuck
[06:43] <Transx3> Lol, sorry.
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: you can specify multiple packages in remove:  sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:43] <MahaVishnu> oh thats good to know.
[06:44] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, instead of "sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer && sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-downloader."?
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> Transx3: oh yes, all I can recommend is powering off for a long time and/or taking the BIOS battery out. You need to clear the old error logs
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: same difference
[06:45] <Transx3> Now i tried again, still same screen but below the verify part it says boot from cd:
[06:45] <Transx3> Well, i restored all factory bios setting...
[06:46] <ruslan_osmanov> hi. I want install an old version of gedit package with /usr/local prefix with some program prefix as well. How do I make it with dpkg?
[06:46] <MahaVishnu> Transx3, try taking out your battery for like 5 minutes bro.
[06:46] <MahaVishnu> it's good advice.
[06:46] <ruslan_osmanov> ... having a deb file
[06:47] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, MahaVishnu, it said "E: Unable to locate package flashplugin-install", ignore this and continue with the rest of the instructions?
[06:47] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, "installer"
[06:48] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, "sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer flashplugin-nonfree" ?
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: instead of instantly pasting errors here, read the screen and the flow of the chat and you would have seen the issue
[06:48] <MahaVishnu> ruslan_osmanov, whats the point of this ?
[06:48] <ruslan_osmanov> MahaVishnu, gedit 3 has a bug in snippets
[06:49] <Transx3> So unplugging it alone won't do the trick, you gotta take out the bios battery?
[06:49] <MahaVishnu> ruslan_osmanov, I could be wrong but doesn't changing a prefix of a program get done with a make file or something when building from source... someone help him lol.
[06:50] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, use "sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer flashplugin-nonfree" as the command?
[06:50] <MahaVishnu> Transx3, taking out the battery clears the CMOS of old data
[06:51] <MahaVishnu> thats part of it...
[06:51] <truepurple> so does temporary jumper placement, clears out the cmos without the need to remove the battery
[06:51] <MahaVishnu> huh?
[06:51] <Transx3> i did that but it does the sane thing..
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> Transx3: i've had to do it a few times,  let all power drain out, leave it about half an hour then it should be ok
[06:52] <Transx3> Alright, i hope, thanks.
[06:52] <maum> ActionParsnip, I like to do this : http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/222/20-gdm-themes-for-ubuntu-you-probably-haven-t-seen-before ... below in the page it requires system > administration menu.
[06:53] <truepurple> MahaVishnu,  "edit /etc/apt/sources.list" how?
[06:53] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, gedit or nano
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> maum: that's from 2009 which is when Jaunty was around.
[06:54] <maum> ActionParsnip, what about this? http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/change-ubuntu-11-10-logon-screen-background-with-lightdm-manager/
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> maum: ubuntu doesn't even use gdm by default now, it uses lightdm
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> maum: sure, looks fine, it's on eiric based too :)
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> maum: its just a pretty GUI to edit the file than my link told you yto edit...
[06:56] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, "uncomment the two lines under partner repo", you mean # deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner # deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner ?
[06:57] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip, can you help me with a video problem.... I can't stop Xorg completely cause lightdm always restarts it. how to avoid this and drop back to a text terminal with the ability to restart x later ?
[06:58] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, a half an hour? You really think there are boards out there able to hold a charge that long?
[06:58] <Transx3> So you don't think that will work?
[06:59] <truepurple> Transx3, well it sounds strange to me that it would take that long to remove all residue charge, most of the time they say like 30 seconds... I wouldn't get your hopes up, but it couldn't hurt to try.
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: why do you want to stop lightdm?
[06:59] <ruslan_osmanov> there no some small 8x8 gnome icons in xfce. What should I install?
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: i cna only call it as I see it, could also ask in ##hardware
[07:00] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip, if I look in pstree lightdm spawns Xorg. I want to be able to kill Xorg completely and just use text terminal. but lightdm always restarts Xorg and I end up at the lightdm login screen.
[07:00] <Transx3> Damn, well, i don't know what else would fix it, i had lubuntu going and then i reinstalled Ubuntu and after it was finished i restarted to this...
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: add the boot option:  text    and you can boot to text only. You can then remove the option and boot to GUI
[07:01] <truepurple> Transx3, I probably can't help, but what is the issue?
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: if you are installing nvidia drivers, I recommend you use the nvidia-current package (guessing what you are doing)
[07:02] <Transx3> Have you been r for awhile? I typed it up there,  kinda long and hard to explain.lol
[07:02] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip, I have nvidia drivers alrdy! I just want to be able to kill Xorg when I please and not have Lightdm restart it.
[07:03] <truepurple> Transx3, but finding text in ubuntu is a super pain in the ass, can you summarize it in a sentence or two? (I feel your pain though, ever so often someone comes in asking for the details anew)
[07:04] <r45c4l> hello room, i just need a little guidence to fix some error while installing a programe
[07:04] <r45c4l> http://pastebin.com/tDbYT8pg this is the OP can any one tell me what i am doing wrong
[07:04] <r45c4l> btw i am not a linux geek, i m just a beginner
[07:05] <r45c4l> so forgive me for errors and mistakes and my ignorance
[07:05] <somsip> r45c4l: might be worth checking in a #runy channel too if there is one
[07:05] <somsip> * #ruby
[07:06] <Transx3> It's okay, i appreciate the help. Well, i did what i said just a sec ago and when i booted back up it gets stick at a black screen with white letters. It says different ide channels and shows all my drives and at the bottom it says, "verifying dmi pool data" and below that it says,  "boot from cd:".
[07:06] <r45c4l> okk somsip so it's a problem related to the ruby configuration ??
[07:06] <r45c4l> but anyways thanks somsip let me check at #ruby room too
[07:07] <truepurple> Transx3, In hardware, they said (and is my understanding) if you turn off the PSU for safety, and remove the cables from the PSU, as well as the cmos battery, the drain of the board should take like 5 seconds, nowhere near 30 minutes
[07:07] <somsip> r45c4l: I have very little experience with ruby so maybe someone else can say more, but either a config issue r a bug in that gem
[07:08] <Transx3> Alright, well, where do i go from here? Lol or am i just f'ed
[07:08] <Transx3> Lol
[07:08] <r45c4l> :P somsip atleast u have some idea, i m just a n00b its just that programme needs ruby thats why i have to go through all this
[07:08] <r45c4l> :P
[07:08] <ruslan_osmanov> i've got it myself: sudo apt-get install python-support python-gtksourceview2 ;  sudo dpkg --force-downgrade -i  gedit-common_2.30.4-2ubuntu1_all.deb ; sudo dpkg --force-downgrade -i  gedit_2.30.4-2ubuntu1_i386.deb
[07:09] <ruslan_osmanov> MahaVishnu, install prefix is --instdir option of dpkg (man dpkg)
[07:09] <truepurple> Transx3, I asked you to summarize your issue in a sentence or two if you can, if you already did, please copy paste it with my name.
[07:10] <Transx3> Truepurple, It's okay, i appreciate the help. Well, i did what i said just a sec ago and when i booted back up it gets stick at a black screen with white letters. It says different ide channels and shows all my drives and at the bottom it says, "verifying dmi pool data" and below that it says,  "boot from cd:".
[07:11] <truepurple> Transx3, did you try del or f2 or what ever your motherboard uses to get into cmos/bios?
[07:12] <Transx3> Truepurple, Yeah, I've been there.
[07:12] <Transx3> And it's del
[07:12] <truepurple> Transx3, and tried it at different stages of turning on your PC? sometimes those windows of cmos activation can be really really small
[07:13] <truepurple>  MahaVishnu, "uncomment the two lines under partner repo", you mean # deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner # deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner ?
[07:14] <Transx3> Yeah, I've been in the menu, what about it?
[07:14] <Transx3> The black screen comes after the chance to go into bios
[07:14] <truepurple> Transx3, you've been into cmos? Then perhaps you can change settings to fix the issue
[07:14] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, are you on maverick or oneiric ?
[07:15] <Transx3> All the settings are factory though.
[07:15] <ruslan_osmanov> is there a dpkg config to check for a package version until it becomes X.Y?
[07:15] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, 11.04
[07:15] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, lsb_release -a is it codename natty, then change maverick to natty
[07:15] <ruslan_osmanov> i mean to set a package version there from which to upgrade further
[07:16] <pnorman> I just installed a SATA card and two 1TB 7200 RPM drives into my ubuntu server. I'm looking to do a stress test of the card to make sure it performs properly and doesn't hang the machine like my last one did. Does anyone have suggestions on commands to run? Both drives are unformatted
[07:16] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, and uncomment means remove the #
[07:16] <ruslan_osmanov> am I invisible?
[07:16] <ruslan_osmanov> ignored
[07:16] <truepurple> Transx3, What kind of hard drive do you have? A blank one to install windows/linux on? One already set up with something?
[07:16] <Transx3> Truepurple, All the settings are factory though.
[07:16] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, I figured out how to uncomment, but I need to know which lines to uncomment
[07:16] <truepurple> Transx3, never mind that, and please answer the quesiton
[07:17] <MahaVishnu> pnorman, sudo hdparm -tT /dev/device
[07:17] <truepurple> Transx3, is it a blank hard drive your trying to install a OS onto? Or a established one?
[07:17] <MahaVishnu> pnorman, that will do the reads atleast.
[07:17] <Transx3> Well, it was set up with lubuntu and i decided i wanted Ubuntu so i clicked reinstall Ubuntu in the setup and installed Ubuntu. Then i booted to this.
[07:18] <Transx3> Truepurple ^
[07:18] <MahaVishnu> Transx3, you got any disks you can try to boot? or usb
[07:18] <pnorman> MahaVishnu: Doesn't the -T option just add testing of the cache system and not involve the disk?
[07:19] <truepurple> Transx3, most motherboards would default to booting with CD I think because they assume a blank drive, set boot to hard drive...
[07:19] <Transx3> Truepurple: Well, it boots Ubuntu on a CD..
[07:19] <MahaVishnu> pnorman, hrm yep apparently.
[07:19] <truepurple> Transx3, so what is the problem?
[07:20] <truepurple> Transx3, you want it to boot the hard drive, right? So set the hard drive as your first boot
[07:20] <MahaVishnu> pnorman, you can do a write benchmark and a read too using palimpsest
[07:20] <Transx3> I want it to boot from my hard drive. I did...
[07:20] <pnorman> MahaVishnu: I can do sequential reads (and writes) with dd if=... of=... bs=1G count=lots
[07:20] <r45c4l> somsip, no help from #ruby looks like every one is inactive there
[07:20] <MahaVishnu> pnorman, then why'd you ask the question in the first placei f you knew the answer ?
[07:20] <r45c4l> :(
[07:21] <r45c4l> trying to fix this since last 2 hours
[07:21] <sgo11> hi, I am trying to install gnome-shell online. the installation process asks me to remove libpanel-applet-3-0, is this safe to do? thanks.
[07:21] <StarryNight> so anyone in here loves windows?
[07:21] <r45c4l> MahaVishnu u indian bro ??
[07:21] <MahaVishnu> r45c4l, no.
[07:21] <truepurple> Transx3, and did it work?
[07:21] <pnorman> MahaVishnu: that wants me to install 38 packages, including what appear to be x11 related packages.
[07:22] <MahaVishnu> pnorman, ahh you said server. then do your command ;-)
[07:22] <somsip> r45c4l: what are you installing?
[07:22] <Transx3> When i switch it it just does the same thing but doesn't say boot from CD, just the verifying dmi pool data again. Isn't Ubuntu faster when you run it from your hard drive?
[07:22] <MahaVishnu> still not sure why you asked a question you apparently had an answer to........ some kind of quest for knowledge ?
[07:23] <r45c4l> somsip, its basically a web lnerability scanner v
[07:23] <truepurple> Transx3, anything is faster running from a HDD rather then a CD :p
[07:23] <somsip> r45c4l: what is it called
[07:23] <Transx3> That's what i thought...
[07:23] <truepurple> ALOT faster
[07:23] <r45c4l> its called arachni
[07:23] <truepurple> especially once you consider CD/DVD spin up time
[07:23] <somsip> r45c4l: and what version of ubuntu are you on?
[07:23] <KFP> truepurple: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html   ;)
[07:24] <r45c4l> 11.10 somnium
[07:24] <somsip> r45c4l: http://npenkov.com/2011/11/08/get-ruby-on-rails-working-on-ubuntu-11-10/
[07:24] <r45c4l> sorry somsip *
[07:24] <pnorman> MahaVishnu: Ya - no GUI. Currently 8 drives in the server
[07:24] <ticayou> slt à tous
[07:24] <r45c4l> well i have installed 1.9.1 just now on my machine somsip
[07:24] <Transx3> I wonder why lubuntu would work but not Ubuntu. 11.11 or 11.10
[07:24] <Transx3> Truepurple^
[07:24] <somsip> r45c4l: check the link - it has a possible fix for that error on 11.10
[07:24] <Transx3> Bad install?
[07:25] <pnorman> Is it safe to write directly to /dev/sdg, if there is no data on the drive I care about?
[07:25] <MahaVishnu> yea
[07:26] <MahaVishnu> just about anything is safe if you got no data to lose.
[07:26] <truepurple> Transx3, so you can get a CD to boot?
[07:26] <ticayou> j'ai mis à jour mon portable ss 11.10 et j'aimerai mettre gnome 3.2 plutot qu'unity
[07:26] <r45c4l> ohh thanks somsip let me try that :) appreciate your help brother
[07:27] <Transx3> Truepurple,  Yeah.
[07:27] <somsip> r45c4l: I have no idea myself, but it looks like a good fit
[07:27] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, I did not understand that first part of the last thing you said, and which lines do you want me to uncomment?
[07:27] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, the 2 under partner repo man...
[07:28] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, lol your still at that ? took me 2 total minutes.
[07:28] <truepurple> Transx3, And your hard drive shows up in cmos looking like it should?
[07:28] <Transx3> Yeah.
[07:28] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, I mentioned two lines, are those the two lines you mean?
[07:28] <sgo11> !gnome3
[07:28] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, yea I told you like 10 minutes ago what to do after you asked
[07:28] <r45c4l> :) yeah somsip but it actually helps you a lot when someone give his/her time to listen to you and try to help you
[07:28] <MahaVishnu> Transx3, its possible you have a fault hardware component.
[07:29] <r45c4l> that helps to release a lot of frustration :P
[07:29] <truepurple> Transx3, are you sure that HDD is the one with your OS set up? Is the OS the same type as your board/memory 64bit/32bit?
[07:31] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, after i asked, the only thing you told me with my name in it, is " lsb_release -a is it codename natty, then change maverick to natty" which I didn't understand, and to remove the pound to uncomment, which I already figured out
[07:31] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, yea and that was in response to you asking are these the correct lines, and I told you what to do after.
[07:33] <MahaVishnu> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu natty partner
[07:33] <MahaVishnu> deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu natty partner
[07:33] <Transx3> Truepurple, i only have one hdd. this is the screen i get stuck at. http://www.sendspace.com/file/3cmkz8
[07:33] <MahaVishnu> Transx3, that link doesn't work ?
[07:34] <MahaVishnu> Transx3, upload it to imageshack.us
[07:34] <Transx3> What!? Do you know a file sharing site i can post it on, it's a picture
[07:34] <Transx3> Do you have to sign up?
[07:34] <MahaVishnu> no
[07:34] <MahaVishnu> its trying to make me download a .exe on the link you gave
[07:34] <MahaVishnu> lol.
[07:35] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, do you understand now?
[07:35] <Transx3> Do you want the link or direct link?
[07:35] <MahaVishnu> direct link i'd guess.
[07:36] <Transx3>  http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/20111207012645529.jpg/
[07:36] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, I know what lines to comment in now, but I still don't get what you told me after you asked which version of ubuntu I am using
[07:37] <Transx3> What? An exe? Lol
[07:37] <truepurple> Transx3, looks like you are hanging at POST, I don't see a HDD listed in your devices.
[07:38] <MahaVishnu> I see one. it says ide channel 2 master disk 160gb
[07:38] <Transx3> It says 160 after master disk. Isn't that it?
[07:38] <Transx3> Yeah.
[07:38] <MahaVishnu> Transx3, can you change in the bios. that the HD is master of channel 1 ? and disable the dvd drive. your trying to boot from hd correct ?
[07:39] <Transx3> Yeah.
[07:39] <truepurple> the screen shot you gave me speaks of a DVD-RW, and master-slave, you got a IDE drive? so old
[07:39] <MahaVishnu> Transx3, its possible it's a failing drive......
[07:39] <Transx3> It's an older computer. Maybe.
[07:39] <MahaVishnu> like he said ide? that disk has got to be ancient
[07:40] <truepurple> Transx3, IDE has a frustrating master/slave system that sometimes requires messing with jumpers in the back of the drive
[07:40] <MahaVishnu> get a new comp honestly.
[07:40] <Transx3> The computer is an evetex gs3005, amd sempron.
[07:40] <Transx3> I am, but i can't for about a month. Lol
[07:40] <truepurple> if you don't have the master/slave jumpers set right for your hardware setup, it won't work MahaVishnu
[07:40] <MahaVishnu> by the time you pay.... $60 ? if you can find a replacement drive. you can get a new emachines pc or something for like $300.
[07:40] <StarryNight> lol that is very old computer
[07:40] <StarryNight> if u still run ide
[07:41] <Transx3> I know it is. Lol
[07:41] <truepurple> StarryNight, well lets not get carried away, IDE was on motherboards of just last year
[07:41] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, yea but his HD is alrdy a master right? can't he just move it to channel 1 and disable the dvd drive. just to simplify things ?
[07:41] <Transx3> In bios there is not and ide channel 1, just 0 and 2
[07:42] <Transx3>  And 3
[07:42] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, the jumpers on the HDD still need to be set right, if its set to slave for example, it won't work, no matter the number of drives
[07:42] <sgo11> wow! just installed gnome3. gnome3 is cool. :)
[07:42] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, its gotta be set to master ( i think ) cause he was using it before!
[07:42] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, master and slave has more to do with whether it is using part a of the IDE cable, or part b
[07:42] <MahaVishnu> I know what master/slave on ide is ;-)
[07:42] <truepurple> Transx3, Looking at the screen shot you sent, I see a DVD drive in master, not a HDD, maybe you sent me the wrong screen shot?
[07:43] <maum> I see whenever I reboot PC. how can I fix this? http://ompldr.org/vYm1oMQ
[07:43] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, look under the top box.
[07:43] <MahaVishnu> where it says IDE channel 2 on the left
[07:43] <Transx3> In bios the hdd I'd ide channel 2 master
[07:43] <StarryNight> truepurple i havnt had ide drives for what now 5 years or so
[07:44] <Transx3> *says
[07:44] <MahaVishnu> Transx3, whats it say for dvd drive ?
[07:44] <Northwoods> i installed wine on my 11.10  , i want to run windows exe file , how do i do it ?
[07:44] <Transx3> Ide channel 0 master
[07:44] <maum> I see whenever I reboot PC. how can I fix this? http://ompldr.org/vYm1oMQ
[07:44] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, Transx3 ""Pri. Master Disk : DVD-RW, ATA 66" and for slave it is blank
[07:44] <MahaVishnu> Northwoods, in terminal wine file.exe
[07:44] <MahaVishnu> or just click it?
[07:45] <truepurple> Transx3, at least in the link you sent me
[07:45] <truepurple> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/20111207012645529.jpg/
[07:45] <Transx3> Yeah, your correct, the ide channel 0 slave is blank
[07:45] <truepurple> and no HDD
[07:46] <Transx3> The hdd is ide channel 2 master
[07:46] <truepurple> Transx3, how are you planing to boot from a HDD cmos doesn't see?
[07:46] <MahaVishnu> it should still boot that hd!
[07:46] <Transx3> It does on ide channel 2 master, doesn't it?
[07:46] <MahaVishnu> omg. how do you not see it.
[07:46] <Northwoods> i did double click the exe ,  http://pastebin.com/s5yjfG5b , i get this error message
[07:46] <truepurple> oops, I see, still, looks kind of funny
[07:46] <Northwoods> MahaVishnu, ^
[07:47] <truepurple> Sorry, I expected it to be in the same box
[07:47] <MahaVishnu> Northwoods, in terminal. sudo chmod +x /home/northwoods/Downloads/Dreamweaver.exe
[07:48] <MahaVishnu> Transx3, get rid of the dvd drive. put the HD on the cable where the dvd drive was. and edit the bios if needed.
[07:48] <maum> I see whenever I reboot PC. how can I fix this? http://ompldr.org/vYm1oMQ
[07:48] <truepurple> Transx3, that board has to be 32bit only, but are you trying to use a 64 bit OS? Or otherwise, could the the OS you are trying to use be too new for the board? Or too old? What was this HDD on before that it worked?
[07:50] <Transx3> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/20111207014817129.jpg/ this is my hdd, it has a different cable than the cd, which is a ribbon.
[07:50] <Transx3> It worked with lubuntu before.
[07:50] <kishan> join #drupal-support
[07:50] <truepurple> Transx3, is this a move from one PC to another? Or did your PC suddenly stop working?
[07:51] <MahaVishnu> Transx3, it has SATA!!!
[07:51] <Transx3> Is that bad? Lol i know sata is newer
[07:51] <MahaVishnu> isnt that sata on that HD ?
[07:51] <MahaVishnu> the pic is a little hard to tell
[07:51] <MahaVishnu> err drive.
[07:52] <Transx3> I thick red cable that's kinda small
[07:52] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, no
[07:52] <Transx3> *a
[07:52] <MahaVishnu> yea. is that not sata?
[07:52] <pnorman> Ya, that's SATA
[07:52] <truepurple> thats a sata cable
[07:52] <MahaVishnu> -_- then why are you using an ide hd
[07:52] <truepurple> but based on that post screen, I see no evidence of sata, I do see IDE in several different ways
[07:53] <Transx3> So why does it say it's ide? Lol
[07:53] <MahaVishnu> cause
[07:53] <MahaVishnu> do you have an AHCI mode in your bios setting?
[07:53] <pnorman> I speak as someone who just dug through a box of 30 sata cables
[07:53] <MahaVishnu> is it set to IDE instead of AHCI
[07:53] <truepurple> ah
[07:53] <MahaVishnu> I thought you had a damn ide only system the whole time. you sneaky bugger.
[07:54] <Transx3> In advanced chipset features is says sata speed spectrum
[07:54] <pnorman> Transx3: My guess is that the drive is set to appear as IDE in the BIOS. Many motherboards have that for compatability
[07:54] <Transx3> What would ahci be under?
[07:54] <MahaVishnu> Transx3, idk on your bios exactly. hunt around
[07:54] <truepurple> Transx3,  Really though, sata is not really dramatically superior or anything. It allows for slightly faster speeds, bigger HDD I think, but for computer builders, the cables are alot easier to deal with, and losing master/slave is so wonderful.
[07:54] <Transx3> How would it work before then? Loo
[07:55] <MahaVishnu> mine is a setting from SATA to AHCI mode since I dont have ide at all.
[07:55] <MahaVishnu> you might have a setting from IDE to SATA or IDE AHCI who knows
[07:55] <MahaVishnu> ide+sata mobos are strange beasts.
[07:55] <truepurple> I got one
[07:56] <MahaVishnu> they work fine mostly. but can run in to weird issues ( like the one ur having trans )
[07:56] <pnorman> SATA is superior to IDE in so many ways.
[07:56] <MahaVishnu> obviously ;-P
[07:56] <truepurple> Well I don't know that
[07:57] <MahaVishnu> its much faster than ide. and can support alot more devices without jumpers.
[07:57] <Transx3> In the ide function setup it has onchip ide channel0, ide dma transfer access, serialata controller and ide pre fetch mode. All of which are enabled
[07:57] <MahaVishnu> especially now with sata @ 6gbs or whatever/
[07:57] <truepurple> Yeah, which only matters if you have a SSD
[07:57] <pnorman> MahaVishnu: SATA III only matters for port multipliers
[07:57] <MahaVishnu> idk what a port multiplier is lol ;-P
[07:58] <truepurple> Not sure what a port multiplier is myself, but I stick by what i said about SSD
[07:58] <MahaVishnu> I got an SSD but it's SATA 2.0 still lightning fast though an intel x25-mainstream.
[07:58] <pnorman> MahaVishnu: You can connect multiple drives to one port with a port multiplier
[07:58] <truepurple> pnorman, a waste of sata 6gb:p
[07:58] <Transx3> Truepurple, In the ide function setup it has onchip ide channel0, ide dma transfer access, serialata controller and ide pre fetch mode. All of which are enabled that ahci nowhere to be found
[07:59] <MahaVishnu> pnorman, ic
[07:59] <pnorman> truepurple: I get more than 3 Gbps off of my array and they're not 15k ones
[07:59] <truepurple> My motherboard came with way more sata ports then I could ever use, the idea of trying to crowd a bunch onto one seems hilarious
[07:59] <MahaVishnu> Transx3, idk what ide pre fetch mode means.
[07:59] <pnorman> truepurple: I have 8 drives.
[07:59] <Transx3> Neither do i. Lol
[07:59] <truepurple> pnorman, you are abnormalman.
[07:59] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, I agree
[08:00] <MahaVishnu> about the ports comment that is.
[08:00] <employee> hi
[08:00] <MahaVishnu> my SSD reads 190.88 MB/sec while im using it as my boot drive. im happy with that.
[08:00] <employee> Wanna know If smb canhelp me to setup local IRC server
[08:01] <MahaVishnu> employee, samba ?
[08:01] <employee> on ubuntu
[08:01] <Transx3> ?
[08:01] <employee> IRC-hybrid possible
[08:01] <pnorman> And I don't see SATA III making a real difference for SSDs yet. In some theoretical situations it can, but I don't see SATA II bottlenecking a single SSD
[08:02] <employee> just an IRC server with chat rooms
[08:02] <MahaVishnu> I have no idea what your question is.
[08:02] <pnorman> employee: samba and IRC are unrelated.
[08:02] <employee> no
[08:02] <employee> no samba
[08:02] <pnorman> What do you mean by smb then?
[08:02] <truepurple> Transx3, MahaVishnu I forget, but doesn't IDE master slave settings not only care about master/slave part a, part b, of the cable, but whether it is the first IDE port, or the second?
[08:02] <employee> somebody
[08:02] <MahaVishnu> employee, im sure if you google linux irc server you can find how to set one up.
[08:03] <employee> I've tried that
[08:03] <MahaVishnu> this channel is for ubuntu support. not irc server support.
[08:03] <pnorman> employee: which ircd did you want to use?
[08:03] <employee> but it doesn't work prorerly
[08:03] <employee> ok
[08:03] <Transx3> Well, my hdd doesn't have a hookup for that wide ribbon cable..
[08:03] <employee> I've a question then
[08:03] <MahaVishnu> Transx3, cause it's sata.
[08:03] <MahaVishnu> ribbon = ide
[08:04] <employee> Why I can't find irc on empathy on ubuntu 10.04
[08:04] <truepurple> Transx3, if it uses a fatter smaller cable for its connection, it is sata but that does not fit with your post screen.
[08:04] <employee> isn't it installed by default?
[08:04] <korben> [employee]: because it's on pidgin not empathy
[08:04] <Transx3> So why are there no sata settings in my bios then?
[08:04] <truepurple> Transx3, if your cmos is set to IDE, but your trying to use a sata HDD, that could possibly cause trouble
[08:04] <employee> but on some comps we have irc by default
[08:05] <Transx3> I don't see sata in my bios anywhere
[08:05] <truepurple> Transx3, there has to be, did you check the manual/have one?
[08:05] <korben> [employee]: on empathy i believe it's an add-on
[08:05] <Transx3> Nope, no manual. Lol
[08:05] <employee> can u help me to install that?
[08:05] <truepurple> Transx3, do you see a setting that is set to "IDE"?
[08:06] <employee> korben, can u help me to install that?
[08:08] <korben> [employee]: one moment
[08:08] <ct529> hi everybody
[08:08] <ct529> I have a dirctory full of text files. I would like to substitute a string in all the text files with another string, using the command line. Anyone who knows how to do it?
[08:09] <pnorman> ct529: know regular expressions?
[08:09] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, "lsb_release -a is it codename natty, then change maverick to natty" what are you referring to with this?
[08:10] <cowslapper> how do I upgrade just one program and not my whole system
[08:10] <ct529> pnorman: yes, a bit
[08:10] <starn> can anyone assist me with broadcom 802.11??
[08:10] <MahaVishnu>  ct529 sed -i 's/old-word/new-word/g' *.txt
[08:10] <cowslapper> I have both apt and synaptic
[08:10] <cowslapper> sudo apt-get upgrade will try to upgrade everything
[08:10] <pnorman> 89.7 MB/s and 82.7 MB/s on sequential read of both drives on the card at the same time.
[08:11] <MahaVishnu> cowslapper, sudo apt-get install programname it will check
[08:11] <MahaVishnu> for updates.
[08:11] <ct529> MahaVishnu: that's it????
[08:11] <MahaVishnu> ct529, yea.
[08:11] <cowslapper> MahaVishnu OK Ill give that a spin
[08:11] <ct529> MahaVishnu: do I have to escape special charchters like /?
[08:12] <pnorman> ct529: You may want to make a copy of the text files - regular expressions can be tricky. You'll have to escape stuff too
[08:12] <PPPPPPP> Ask #ubuntu, what is your favorie Linux game of all time??
[08:12] <MahaVishnu> ct529, yea
[08:12] <ct529> MahaVishnu: pnorman; thanks a lot!
[08:13] <Transx3> Truepurple, mahavishnu, i went to standard cmos features and the hdd was listed next to ide channel 2 master, i went to that and changed the extended ide drive setting from auto to none, now when i boot after the usual stuff it says nvidia boot agent then media test failure, check cable, then it does or again and says disk boot failure
[08:13] <Transx3> The cable is done, i checked it
[08:13] <MahaVishnu> Transx3, is the hd set as first boot device in bios ?
[08:13] <onre> i like the "bash shell" a lot, i thinkg it's rather fascinating game
[08:13] <Transx3> *fine
[08:14] <pnorman> ct529: I know regular expressions fairly well and I've seen ones that I can't decode without a man page and look like line noise.
[08:14] <korben> install irc server locally?!
[08:14] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, "lsb_release -a is it codename natty, then change maverick to natty" what are you referring to with this? Please help, I am looking through IRC history and do not see where you cleared up what your saying with this
[08:15] <truepurple> Transx3, there should be a option to set something from IDE, to several different types, of which were mentioned earlier in the chat
[08:15] <truepurple> Transx3, do you know the model of your Mother Board?
[08:16] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, in your /etc/apt/sources.list THOSE 2 LINES that said partner and maverick. the lsb_release -a is for you to do in a terminal and find your codename and replace maverick in that file with the codename of your system if it is not maverick.
[08:16] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, once those 2 lines are uncomment, your correct codename is inserted. you can save the file and we can proceed.
[08:17] <bhrandon> howdy
[08:18] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, did that make sense for you ?
[08:18] <mohammadtiti> Dude
[08:18] <Transx3> The sata drive is plugged into sata0 pretty on mother board. I'm not sure, it's an amd sempron 3000 cpu
[08:18] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, not sure yet, got to scroll back to your original instructions and see how I can fit them in
[08:19] <Transx3> *port
[08:19] <mohammadtiti> is there anybody that can help me with my problem
[08:19] <mohammadtiti> ?
[08:19] <pnorman> !ask | mohammadtiti
[08:19] <truepurple> Transx3, doesn't it say anything on the board or in bios as to your motherbaord type?
[08:19] <truepurple> Transx3, you might also ask in hardware, this does not seem to be a ubuntu issue
[08:20] <mohammadtiti> thanks
[08:20] <mohammadtiti> there is this error
[08:20] <mohammadtiti> :
[08:20] <mohammadtiti> the error:(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[08:20] <Transx3> I know it's not but you guy know my problem so well. LOL
[08:20] <Transx3> It's there a hardware channel?
[08:21] <mohammadtiti> what do u mean by "hardware channel"?
[08:21] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, lsb_release -a after saving those uncommented line changes?
[08:21] <jussi> Transx3: ##hardware
[08:22] <mohammadtiti> no. I didn't save that...
[08:22] <Transx3> Damn. Fine
[08:22] <mohammadtiti> I just read it on my netbook screen and I wrote it here (on my pc)
[08:22] <mohammadtiti> how can i solve that problem
[08:22] <mohammadtiti> ?
[08:24] <Guest5648> Hi. Virtual box just surprised by claiming that my X is working in sixteen bit mode. How to check it and eventually if confirmed change?
[08:25] <keithzg> I'm stumped as to why, since the upgrade to Oneiric, no GUI package managers other than Muon work for me, but the CLI ones continue fine. I mean, it's not a HUGE deal since I mainly use aptitude anyways, but WTF?
[08:26] <mohammadtiti> how can install ubuntu on my netbook with this error showing over and over again:(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[08:27] <truepurple> How does one save under nano?
[08:27] <tootac> Hi guys, my unity crashed. It looks like its a classical theme for desktop.
[08:27] <keithzg> truepurple: Ctrl-X, it'll prompt you, or Ctrl-O I believe saves without exiting.
[08:28] <truepurple> keithzg, I choose to exit, it asks if I want to save, I type y, it goes back to the file and does not save
[08:28] <theadmin> truepurple: The shortcuts are all at the bottom. ^ means Ctrl, M- means Alt
[08:28] <excelsior> is it worth it to uninstall OOo 3.2 and install LO 3.4.4 on Ubuntu 10.10?
[08:29] <theadmin> excelsior: Yes
[08:29] <gstreamer213> i got an error loading a .ko driver file (invalid module format)
[08:29] <gstreamer213> anything i can try
[08:29] <gstreamer213> ?
[08:29] <keithzg> truepurple: are you sure you have permission to edit the file? If you're trying to edit something in /etc/, for example, you'll likely have to be running it with "sudo nano /etc/path/to/file"
[08:29] <excelsior> theadmin: should I use the ppa or download the tar.gz .deb file?
[08:29] <mr_lou> So, trying to install Ubuntu 11.04, but getting an error BusyBox (initramfs) saying something about not being able to....something....   the same PC installed v11.10 fine. What gives?
[08:30] <theadmin> excelsior: Both would be fine... After extracting the .tar.gz with deb files, you navigate to the directory which they are in and run "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[08:30]  * mr_lou don't remember Ubuntu giving this much trouble a few years back. :-/
[08:31] <excelsior> theadmin: seems like I usually just double click them in the gui and use my password and they install no problemo
[08:31] <theadmin> excelsior: But there is like 25 of them and you have to install them all at the same time :P So this is the only way
[08:31] <excelsior> fair enough
[08:32] <excelsior> I think I installed the ppa on another comp, and it only upgraded to 3.4.3, whereas the .deb is supposed to be 3.4.4
[08:32] <raven> googleearth + 11.10 - freezing system at any time also in safe graphics mode - why?
[08:33] <mohammadtiti> Yes  <mr_lou>. I've got the same error when trying to install Ubuntu 11.04. What should I Do?
[08:33] <PPPPPPP> Dont hate, but does anybody know a script to brute force a WEP key? My dad locked me out lol.
[08:34] <mr_lou> mohammadtiti, I'm leaning towards Mint linux myself....
[08:34] <excelsior> Why is it that Will Ferrell can say "Fair enough" and make me bust a gut, but anyone else is completely blah?
[08:34] <mr_lou> mohammadtiti, Either that, or put up with 11.10
[08:34] <truepurple> keithzg, my computer shut down, so got a idea how I can save?
[08:34] <mr_lou> mohammadtiti, Can't quite make up my mind about that.
[08:35] <gstreamer213> how possible is it to port drivers between minor kernel versions?
[08:35] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, Are you still there?
[08:35] <mohammadtiti> Does upgrading to Ubuntu 11.10 solve my problem?
[08:35] <gstreamer213> without the source
[08:35] <excelsior> theadmin: back to brass tacks, should I uninstall the old programs first, or can I just leave them in?
[08:36] <mohammadtiti>  <mr_lou>Does upgrading to Ubuntu 11.10 solve my problem?
[08:36] <mr_lou> (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system  <-- why does this message appear from the Install CD? (v11.04)
[08:36] <keithzg_900> truepurple: are you certain you have permission to edit the file? If it's in /etc/, for example, you'd need higher authority than your normal user account.
[08:36] <mohammadtiti> I don't know.
[08:36] <theadmin> excelsior: I don't think you should keep both OpenOffice and LibreOffice, they mess up (same binary names)
[08:37] <excelsior> so uninstall first?
[08:37] <theadmin> excelsior: The official LibreOffice packages install to /opt though so you're not gonna have much trouble
[08:37] <theadmin> excelsior: Up to you
[08:37] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, yea dude my internet is jacked up bad. today
[08:37] <mr_lou> mohammadtiti, I have no idea, sorry. I'm trying to get this running myself. I'm just trying to install Ubuntu on a new PC. First went with v11.10, but too many things have changed so I don't want it. Therefor trying v11.04 instead, but it won't install.
[08:37] <excelsior> I think I'll uninstall first.
[08:37] <mohammadtiti> I have a netbook (Asus 1215N) and i want to install ubuntu 11.04 on it (alongside windows 7 HP preinstalled)
[08:37] <excelsior> thanks for the moral support theadmin
[08:37] <sgo11> hi, just installed gnome-contacts. it looks cool. but where is the toolbar? how to import/export vcards? thanks.
[08:37] <mohammadtiti> God damn it
[08:37] <mohammadtiti> ok thanks anyway
[08:38] <WanderingEnder> How much integration is there between Pidgin and Unity's indicator-applet?
[08:38] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, use  "lsb_release -a" in a terminal after saving those changes of uncommented lines?
[08:38] <excelsior> anyone here work in sales? Any advice on workflow?
[08:38] <truepurple> keithzg_900, its etc/apt/sources.list
[08:38] <mohammadtiti> somebody help me with this fucking error
[08:38] <theadmin> WanderingEnder: None at all the last I checked
[08:39] <WanderingEnder> theadmin, that's what I thought. Trying to decide if I want to keep Empathy or not, I only use it for IM on a few networks.
[08:39] <mohammadtiti> the error is:(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[08:40] <theadmin> WanderingEnder: /me uses imo.im + Chrome/Chromium. Notifications work so hey :D
[08:40] <keithzg_900> truepurple: you'd better be running "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list", otherwise yeah it'll do exactly what it's doing and not let you save.
[08:40] <pnorman> mohammadtiti: are you installing off of a USB drive or a CD/DVD? Also, did you md5sum the image you downloaded?
[08:40] <Jordan_U> mohammadtiti: Please watch your language and attitude. We are all volunteers.
[08:40] <mohammadtiti> when I want to install it, this message appears
[08:40] <WanderingEnder> mohammadtiti, instead of bothering with a bunch of !commands at you, I'll give you the run down: If nobody's responded, nobody awake knows.
[08:40] <mohammadtiti> WanderingEnder, you mean nobody knows the answer here?
[08:41] <truepurple> keithzg, oopsy, that was my mistake
[08:41] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, use  "lsb_release -a" in a terminal after saving those changes of uncommented lines?
[08:41] <keithzg_900> heh yeah it's an easy one to make before you get in the habit.
[08:41] <MahaVishnu> truepurple, does the rest of your sources file say maverick ? or natty
[08:41] <WanderingEnder> mohammadtiti, the person who knows may not be awake / active in the channel. Or, they may not be looking at the window.
[08:42] <WanderingEnder> mohammadtiti, Didn't you state that 11.10 worked?
[08:42] <mohammadtiti> oops...
[08:42] <mohammadtiti> How can i awake him/her? LOL
[08:42] <excelsior> mohammadtiti: Just be patient and persistent, and eventually someone who knows will tell you. By persistent, I mean wait until at least a few screen passes to repost your question, if necessary. Else try to answer to the responses you are lucky to get.
[08:42]  * keithzg_900 remains sad he's able to solve other folks' problems, but is no closer to isnstalling 64bit flash with multiarch disabled. Ah well, a few months without flash won't be too bad.
[08:43] <truepurple> MahaVishnu, you mean "/etc/apt/sources.list"? I don't see natty written anywhere in here
[08:43] <mohammadtiti> no WanderingEnder i didn't check that
[08:43] <theadmin> keithzg_900: wtf? Flash is native 64-bit... Did Ubuntu not change to that yet?
[08:43] <mohammadtiti> thanks excelsior
[08:43] <mohammadtiti> But I'm downloading it, the X64 DVD version
[08:43] <WanderingEnder> mohammadtiti, Why use an older version?
[08:44] <WanderingEnder> Also, once you DL your ISO, run a MD5 check on it to verify that its actually the same ISO without corruption.
[08:44] <gstreamer213> mohammadtiti, try plugging your cd driver or Harddisk in a different port...? <random idea
[08:44] <dr_willis> i think the flash instaler instals 32 bit.
[08:44] <mohammadtiti> because the newest version I have is that version.
[08:44] <keithzg_900> theadmin: Oneiric has multiarch enabled by default, and has the amd64 package for flashplugin-installer depend on flashplugin-downloader:i386
[08:44] <mohammadtiti> no gstreamer213. good idea. I'm on it
[08:44] <WanderingEnder> Grab 11.10, it may fix your issue, mohammadtiti.
[08:44] <theadmin> keithzg_900: Awkward decision...
[08:44] <dr_willis> not reallyneeded to bother with 64 bit flash.
[08:45] <WanderingEnder> I know that a 10 year old 1U server I have doesn't like 11.10, I fed it 10.04 and it liked it.
[08:45] <keithzg_900> so, Flash is 64bit, but you can't install it without 32bit libs.
[08:45] <keithzg_900> And with multiarch disabled, that becomes a problem...
[08:46] <Jordan_U> mohammadtiti: That error generally means that for whatever reason Ubuntu's kernel isn't able to access your CD Drive to read the files it needs. This can be worked around by using the netinstall CD (because then everything that needs to be loaded is loaded from the bootloader into memory using your firmware's drivers rather than linux's).
[08:46] <dr_willis> and you disable that multiarch why?
[08:46] <mohammadtiti> Ahhha thanks WanderingEnder
[08:46] <Jordan_U> !minimal | mohammadtiti
[08:48] <excelsior> Hey, if we're talking about minimalist stuff, I should brag that Lubuntu has really impressed me with its small footprint and ability to multitask on machines with as little as 256 MB RAM.
[08:48] <lotheac> is there a preseed option for the "download language support" question in the alt-installer?
[08:48] <WanderingEnder> mohammadtiti, I use the minimal on my older servers, it deals with all sorts of screwups of hardware.
[08:48] <keithzg_900> dr_willis: I disabled multiarch because it breaks aptitude, and with all the GUI package managers broken for me in Oneiric, I need aptitude!
[08:48] <mohammadtiti>  I'm new in working with linux. Please give me complete instructions
[08:48] <mohammadtiti> WanderingEnder
[08:49] <mohammadtiti> How can i download that?
[08:49]  * pnorman has a 9 year old server running an old version of OS X that he's afraid to touch for the fear that something will break
[08:49] <keithzg_900> (apt-get just doesn't always cut it)
[08:49] <WanderingEnder> mohammadtiti, visit the link provided by the bot in your browser.
[08:49] <dr_willis> first ive heard of it breaking breaking aptitude
[08:49] <WanderingEnder> Download that ISO. Either 1) Burn it to a CD or 2) use Universal Linux USB Tool to burn it to a USB flash memory stick.
[08:49] <WanderingEnder> !usb
[08:50] <mohammadtiti> gstreamer213, thank you very much.... Changing the drive ports. worked.
[08:50] <dr_willis> keithzg_900:  sounds like youhave deeper problems.
[08:50] <truepurple>  MahaVishnu, you mean "/etc/apt/sources.list"? I don't see natty written anywhere in here
[08:50] <trukosh> Hi, i have 2 lvm-Volumes with data on it. They re not mounted via fstab, but by corosync software when needed. Before i can mount them i have to send "vgchange -ay" to activate the volumegroup by hand. Anyone knows why? Thought udev would activate vg while booting. Or does this just work, when they re mounted automatically via fstab / when needed in boot-Process?
[08:50] <gstreamer213> mohammadtiti, Lol kudos
[08:50] <mohammadtiti> it loaded the kernel.
[08:51] <keithzg_900> dr_willis: probably, but nothing other than Synaptic and Apper are broken, so itm's actually been the smoothest Ubuntu upgrade n this particular machine yet, haha
[08:51] <raven> googleearth + 11.10 - freezing system at any time also in safe graphics mode - why?
[08:51] <mohammadtiti> simple solution for a freaking problem....thank you anyway, gstreamer213
[08:52] <lotheac> trukosh: shot in the dark, but are your pv's set to the correct partition type
[08:52] <WanderingEnder> mohammadtiti, Now superglue the bad port shut! :)
[08:52] <dr_willis> black tape is safer
[08:53] <gstreamer213> like charge your mp3
[08:53] <gstreamer213> x_o might still work for other devices
[08:53] <trukosh>  lotheac Great tip!! Thank you very much!
[08:53] <mohammadtiti> WanderingEnder hell yeah. 100000000% agree
[08:53] <lotheac> trukosh: no problem :)
[08:53] <keithzg> dr_willis: it's worth reiterating, nothing's broken except for the GUI package managers, and it remains ridiculous for an amd64 package to depend on an i386 package.
[08:54] <WanderingEnder> gstreamer213, I wouldn't trust it to charge anything, either. It may short.
[08:54] <mohammadtiti> another question: is there anyone that is working with Ubuntu 11.10?
[08:54] <gstreamer213> Good point
[08:55] <pnorman> mohammadtiti: Lots of people here use 11.10. I use 11.10 server on my server
[08:55] <truepurple>  MahaVishnu, you mean "/etc/apt/sources.list"? I don't see natty written anywhere in here
[08:55] <maum> I see whenever I reboot PC. how can I fix this? http://ompldr.org/vYm1oMQ
[08:56] <gstreamer213> maum change your stored configuration?
[08:56] <maum> gstreamer213, how can I change it?
[08:57] <mohammadtiti> no i don't mean the server edition. the pc version of it. I want to see how is it? and its differences with ubuntu 11.04.
[08:57] <gstreamer213> probably you have a video driver that have a gui
[08:58] <pnorman> mohammadtiti: The biggest change I hear about is the default UI has changed. Some people love it. Some people hate it.
[08:58] <maum> gstreamer213, how can I fix this problem?
[08:58] <truepurple> I was told to use sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin, but it says that it can't find it, "E: Package 'adobe-flashplugin' has no installation candidate" among other things
[08:59] <PJaros> Ubuntu 10.04 here with Gnome-Desktop, when I start my XServer with gdm my autostart applications won't start. If I start it with "startx" everything is fine. Ideas?
[08:59] <gstreamer213> maum did you install a video driver recently?
[08:59] <jrib> truepurple: what ubuntu version?
[09:00] <maum> gstreamer213, yes nvidia gtx580 driver
[09:00] <WanderingEnder> Hmm, is there a 11.10 indicator-applet compatible system-monitor applet?
[09:00] <PJaros> Wanderin1Ender: Yes there is.
[09:00] <gstreamer213> maum, is there a gui for the driver?
[09:00] <truepurple> jrib, 11.04
[09:00] <PJaros> Wanderin1Ender: Just don't remember ... uhm
[09:01] <mohammadtiti> aha. thanks pnorman
[09:01] <maum> gstreamer213, there is nvidia utility for setting display
[09:01] <jrib> truepurple: it's probably a different name in 11.04.  Open software center, search for adobe flash
[09:02] <PJaros> Wanderin1Ender: Try this once http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/network-memory-and-cpu-usage-indicator.html
[09:02] <gstreamer213> try changing the resolution from there.
[09:03] <gstreamer213> maum, change the resolution to 1920x1080
[09:03] <maum> gstreamer213, now it was set Auto
[09:04] <truepurple> jrib, I found it, but I have been having trouble with flash, and I am following instructions I received that I was hoping would fix it, I don't want to install from the software center because I don't know what that does to the instructions
[09:04] <jrib> truepurple: what instructions?  And what trouble?
[09:04] <keithzg> So strange. Why would Synaptic cause Xorg to use up an entire core's worth of CPU cycles?
[09:05] <gstreamer213> maum, change it and reboot
[09:06] <maum> gstreamer213, ok but when I changed it, the system is working slow
[09:06] <maum> gstreamer213, i don't know why and it automatically changed as Auto
[09:06] <gstreamer213> maum, oh.. do you know what resolution it is now?
[09:07] <maum> gstreamer213, now it is Auto.
[09:07] <maum> gstreamer213, there is no slow performance.
[09:07] <gstreamer213> maum, take a screenshot and check its resolution
[09:07] <master> i have face problem to install t/v in my ubuntu 11.10
[09:07] <maum> gstreamer213, but if I try to change it , the system will be slow.
[09:08] <truepurple> jrib, the graphics don't update properly under flash, and I can't get into settings to change things to try to fix it that way
[09:08] <gstreamer213> maum, take a screenshot(printscreen) save the picture, right click it -> properties -> image
[09:09] <jrib> truepurple: and what instructions?
[09:09] <master> how to install   team viewer in ubuntu
[09:09] <truepurple> jrib, " sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer && sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-downloader. then edit /etc/apt/sources.list remove the # from before the 2 lines under partner repo. save the file. do a sudo apt-get update then do a sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin then in a terminal type flash-player-properties"
[09:09] <master> 11.100
[09:09] <Besogon> Does anyone remember how to switch off "print$" folder in samba?
[09:09] <WanderingEnder> master, have you visited Teamviewer's website? If there's a .deb file, run that.
[09:09] <master> ya do
[09:09] <master> three time
[09:10] <master> its show error
[09:10] <WanderingEnder> master, what is the exact error?
[09:10] <keithzg> truepurple: all those instructions are telling you to do is remove flash, enable the partner repo, and then install the "adobe-flashplugin" package, which is the Adobe Flash entry in the Software Center.
[09:11] <keithzg> As long as you remove the packages, add the partner repos, and then (after updating your package lists) install flash again, shouldn't matter what order you do it.
[09:11] <dudeami> I have a questions related to lm-sensors. Right now I have the mobo reporting 69C (it8721-isa-0290) as the CPU temp, but the processor itself (k10temp-pci-00c3) reporting 52C... Which should I listen too?
[09:11] <keithzg> Err, by order I mean by which method (sorry, tired)
[09:11] <master> big problem is that my software center hang
[09:11] <truepurple> keithzg, how is that different from just removing flash then installing adobe flash directly?
[09:12] <master> and after
[09:12] <pnorman__> and there goes my server under heavy IO again :(
[09:12] <WanderingEnder> Also, silly question. Did anyone here watch (and like ) Eureka's Christmas Special?
[09:12] <keithzg> truepurple: err, probably not any different, but what do you mean by "directly"?
[09:12] <master> minute its support
[09:12] <ct529> pnorman__: yes, same here
[09:13] <WanderingEnder> Right, wrong channel, ignore that. ;) Thought this was #Reddit
[09:13] <master> Open with Ubuntu Software Center (default)
[09:13] <pnorman__> ct529: it's a problem specific to my sata card it seems. SiI 3124 chipset, second one (first was RMA'ed for a dead port)
[09:13] <master> When Software Center opens, click ‘Install’
[09:13] <master> but software not support
[09:16] <truepurple> keithzg, I mean going to the adobe flash site and using their download to install
[09:18] <WanderingEnder> truepurple, why go out of Ubuntu's package manager to install?
[09:18] <keithzg> truepurple: do they provide a .deb file? Otherwise, it's no different at the moment, but differs in that the system will keep track of the package and install newer versions if/when they become available in the repositories.
[09:18] <keithzg> truepurple: plus, then it's far easier to install and uninstall. Always less messy to have the package manager keep track of things.
[09:18] <truepurple> WanderingEnder, because flash isn't updating its graphics right, and I want a install that does
[09:19] <truepurple> keithzg, the download adds a link to software center to install, I don't know if it adds a .deb file or not
[09:20] <excelsior> woot
[09:20] <kamilnadeem> I am having some issues with running multiple apps as the ram consumption is been very high in Kubuntu 11.10 , is there a way to tackle it . I have 2 gb ram +2b swap but the system feels sluggish at some time . like right now I am running Firefox 8, chromium 15, Chokoq, Quasssel an 0.9 gb of ram is being used ?
[09:21] <keithzg> truepurple: I just checked, yeah, all it does in theory is add the partner repo to the repository lists, so it's no different than adding the lines to /etc/apt/sources.list yourself.
[09:22] <truepurple> keithzg, does that mean it updates?
[09:22] <keithzg> truepurple: Yeah, as long as Adobe deigns to push the newer versions into the repository.
[09:22] <fff> hello
[09:23] <truepurple> keithzg, so what I did in the instructions I was given was no different then using the file from adobe to install in the software center?
[09:24] <sgo11> hi, in gnome shell theme preview png file, it always shows a virtual keyboard. what is it? how to launch it?
[09:24] <keithzg> truepurple: as far as I can tell, yeah, no difference at all.
[09:25] <muhammed> hello
[09:25] <muhammed> how to change login background image
[09:25] <muhammed> ???
[09:26] <truepurple> keithzg, do I need to shut down all flash before installing flash?
[09:26] <muhammed> can any1 help??
[09:27] <Twinkletoes> muhammed: Doe sthis help?  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1853558.html
[09:28] <Twinkletoes> Morning folks.  I can't get ip forwarding to work properly.  I'm setting up a gateway machine (some network details here: http://pastebin.com/dzsyk29Z) but using a client machine on the 10.97.0.0 network, I can only ping the "furthest" nic on the gateway.  For anything beyond that (going onto the 192.168.2.0 network) I get no response.  Any ideas?
[09:29] <WanderingEnder> How do I set the UI theme's highlight color? Its black text on very dark background, even in the white Ambience theme. Driving me mad.
[09:30] <keithzg> truepurple: naw, whatever flash is running may keep running, but the fact that it's open won't matter one way or another for replacing the actual install.
[09:30] <muhammed> Twinkletoes: thanx...i'll try
[09:30] <muhammed> ...
[09:30] <muhammed> :)
[09:32] <MeirD> hello
[09:32] <MeirD> how can i list all IPS in my network from the command shell?
[09:32] <muhammed> how to check current permission of a folder using command???
[09:33] <Twinkletoes> muhammed: ls -al ?
[09:33]  * keithzg sometimes feels like #ubuntu is just full of troll questions, yeesh
[09:33] <Twinkletoes> keithzg: :(
[09:34] <Twinkletoes> MeirD: You can't, but you can test each one but that's no guarantee it's not there
[09:34] <Twinkletoes> MeirD: Have a look at 'nmap' too
[09:35] <MeirD> but when you say "each one". where do i get a list of the possible IPS?
[09:35] <MeirD> ok thnx
[09:35] <Twinkletoes> MeirD: That's basic networking
[09:35] <MeirD> I thought so :(
[09:36] <Twinkletoes> MeirD: In it's simplest form, if your own network is 192.168.1.x with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 (or /24) then you should test every IP from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.254 (0 is the actual network address, and 255 is the broadcast address)
[09:36] <deej1976> MeirD: What are you trying to find/archieve?
[09:37] <MeirD> which ips are on my network, and if they are pingable
[09:37] <ottermaton> make me a sandwich!
[09:38] <Twinkletoes> MeirD: ping is only a crude test to see if something's there, and depending on client machine settings, it may not respond to a ping (eg. firewall)
[09:38] <MeirD> I know
[09:38] <ottermaton> arlo, make me a sandwich
[09:38] <gstreamer213> ottermaton wrong channel. try the android
[09:38] <arlo> Why`?
[09:38] <CrazyThinker> find . -name .svn -exec rm -rf {}\; find: missing argument to `-exec'
[09:38] <Twinkletoes> MeirD: Your best bet (if you don't want to walk to every machine) is to use nmap
[09:38] <CrazyThinker> What is that error?
[09:39] <deej1976> MeirD: Have a read "man nmap" it gives examples of network scanning
[09:39] <ottermaton> arlo, sudo make me a sandwich
[09:39] <MeirD> ok thnx!
[09:39] <arlo> Why ?
[09:39] <arlo> Hello, im installing phpmail local
[09:39] <arlo> but is not working why?
[09:40] <Twinkletoes> MeirD: https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/290879-beginners-guide-to-nmap
[09:40] <ottermaton> because you need to make a sandwich arlo
[09:40] <arlo> lol
[09:40] <MeirD> hanks
[09:40] <MeirD> t
[09:40] <sgo11> hi, new to gnome3. in this screenshot: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=22122  what is theexclamatory mark for? why does the shell theme grayed out?
[09:42] <pangolin> sgo11: hovering your mouse over it or perhaps clicking on it might give some info
[09:43] <sgo11> pangolin, thanks. yeah. shell user theme extension not enabled. no idea what does that mean....
[09:43] <sgo11> oh. I just find out how to launch that virtual keyboard in gnome3. very cool. :)
[09:46] <sgo11> does anyone know what shell user-theme extension is? do I need to have it in order to use gnome shell theme downloaded online later?
[09:47] <ServerTechLaptop> Okay so I need a file which is on my Ubuntu 11.10 which does not boot with gnome and boots in command line. I have files on my second hard drive which i have to copy to a windows laptop. I probablt want to do it through the network. Instructions?
[09:48] <gstreamer213> sgoll, proabably seeing as that is what it is..
[09:48] <gstreamer213> sgoll, your problem is probably you dont  have a theme downloaded yet
[09:49] <sgo11> gstreamer213, :) yeah. I am trying to download one. just study how to use gnome 3. it seems not many people use gnome3 here.
[09:49] <deej1976> sgo11: Have you got gnome-themes, gnome-themes-extras, gnome-themes-more installed?
[09:50] <truepurple> keithzg, well it didn't fix the flash updating graphics issue after all that
[09:50] <sgo11> deej1976, when I search gnome-themes in software center, I can only see gnome-themes. where can I get gnome-themes-extras, gnome-themes-more? which repo?
[09:51] <deej1976> sgo11: They are in there as well, otherwise open a terminal and do apt-cache search gnome-themes
[09:51] <sgo11> deej1976, oh. I saw them. I just need to click "show 5 technical items" link. they are hidden by default in software center. thanks.
[09:54] <WanderingEnder> OK, is Ubuntu dumping banshee?
[09:54] <iceroot> WanderingEnder: in 12.04, yes
[09:54] <iceroot> WanderingEnder: but only as default-app
[09:54] <WanderingEnder> What are we going to?
[09:55] <iceroot> WanderingEnder: #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 discussions
[09:57] <Cradam> whats wrong with banshee]
[09:58] <arlo> Anyone can help me to set local mail up in ubuntu?
[09:58] <Cradam> just like i said whats wrong with evolution
[09:58] <iceroot> Cradam: banshee is using mono
[09:58] <iceroot> Cradam: and because of mono is bad it will be removed by default in the future
[09:58] <Cradam> iceroot: oh
[09:59] <WanderingEnder> ... is that why the damn thing stops sometimes and is "thinking?"
[09:59] <iceroot> WanderingEnder: no
[09:59] <WanderingEnder> Do you know why it stops sometimes and is thinking?
[09:59] <iceroot> WanderingEnder: bad == non-free
[10:00] <WanderingEnder> Well, yes. I wasn't suggesting its being removed for "thinking," anything non-free is kinda lol as a default in a FOSS OS.
[10:00] <iceroot> WanderingEnder: correct
[10:00] <Cradam> mono is free
[10:01] <WanderingEnder> Did MS release .NET in a OSS license?
[10:01] <stinkfist> is there a proxy add on on firfox?
[10:01] <Cradam> nope, but what has that got to do with an OSS version of it
[10:02] <Cradam> *alternative to
[10:02] <Cradam> "Mono is an open source implementation of Microsoft's .NET Framework"
[10:03] <ChaiTiger> Ok I upgraded to the new Ubuntu and I no longer have a mouse cursor and my screen resolution won't go any higher than 1024*768
[10:03] <prouca> oi
[10:03] <ChaiTiger> First thing's first - How do I get my mouse pointer back? I had it when I booted and now it's gone
[10:04] <Cradam> i use skype, because i dont have any qualms about using non open source software
[10:04] <Cradam> ChaiTiger: have you tried a reboot?
[10:04] <ChaiTiger> Well that may get my mouse cursor back for a bit but I would rather fix the root cause of the problem
[10:04] <Cradam> well just reboot X should do
[10:05] <ChaiTiger> Can I do it without killing my open apps?
[10:06] <Cradam> nope, btw my cursor dissapears if i leave my mouse idle, im sure you ave tried that though
[10:06] <stinkfist> what does squid do exactly
[10:07] <stinkfist> can someone explain this to me in a easy quick way?
[10:07] <deej1976> !squid
[10:07] <ChaiTiger> Cradam: It's worse than that
[10:08] <ChaiTiger> I never had any of these problems with 11.04. The screen resolution was right, I had no issues with my mouse
[10:08] <ChaiTiger> Very disappointed so far :(
[10:09] <Cradam> ChaiTiger: laptop or desktop?
[10:09] <ChaiTiger> Cradam: Laptop, Toshiba
[10:10] <Cradam> ChaiTiger: do you have a button on your keyboard or anywhere else that looks like a hand touching a trackpad?
[10:10] <ChaiTiger> Cradam: Yep, tried that
[10:10] <deployment> how can I tell if my ubuntu 10.4.2 OS is 64-bit or 32-bit?
[10:11] <deej1976> deployment: uname -m
[10:11] <deej1976> deployment: or uname -p
[10:11] <deployment> -m says x86_64
[10:12] <deployment> -p syas unknown
[10:12] <ChaiTiger> 64 bit
[10:12] <Cradam> deployment: notice the 64 on the end?
[10:13] <gllera_> how I can know all the users groups from terminal?
[10:13] <deployment> indeed, but I also notice the x86, does that just mean it can do both as 64-bit. due to if it was a 32-bit it wouldn't run the 64-bit stuff.
[10:13] <grandon> one on ?
[10:14] <ChaiTiger> Ok I'm going to try a reboot
[10:14] <ChaiTiger> I'll be back!
[10:15] <geirha> gllera_: groups
[10:15] <gllera_> geirha thanks!
[10:15] <Cradam> gllera_: either that or ls /home
[10:15] <shomon> hi, how do I find out what apt-package a library is in?
[10:15] <shomon> in this case, where is fltk-config?
[10:15] <shomon> in ubuntu 10.10
[10:16] <llutz> shomon: apt-file search
[10:16] <llutz> !find fltk-config
[10:16] <shomon> thanks :)
[10:16] <shomon> ah wow, ubottu knows all
[10:16] <llutz> !find fltk-config maverick
[10:16] <llutz> shomon: there you go
[10:16] <shomon> ah this is actually 11.04 sorry
[10:17] <shomon> !find fltk-config lucid
[10:17] <shomon> !find fltk-config natty
[10:17] <ChaiTiger> Ok mouse is back, perhaps a bit of a red herring there
[10:17] <sagaci> has the ubuntu mono font been backported to 10.04?
[10:17] <ChaiTiger> How about my screen resolution? How can I get my screens native resolution?
[10:18] <om26er> sagaci, that was an exception, a sabdfl exception ;-)
[10:18] <stinkfist> anyone can answer my squid question >.<
[10:18] <sagaci> righteo thanks for the info
[10:19] <deej1976> !squid | stinkfist
[10:20] <llutz> stinkfist: http://www.squid-cache.org/  1st 3 lines of text
[10:20] <Cradam> stinkfist: #squid
[10:20] <sean_432> complete noob here, cant configure citrix xenapp canteven find the exe file locationonce installedautomatically
[10:20] <stinkfist> but what is a caching proxyyyyyyyyyyyy
[10:20] <stinkfist> ; __ ;
[10:21] <stinkfist> what does it mean
[10:21] <llutz>  stinkfist: #squid
[10:21] <stinkfist> oh alright :)
[10:21] <stinkfist> thank u
[10:21] <llutz> stinkfist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server#Caching
[10:21] <deej1976> stinkfist: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/P/proxy_cache.html
[10:21] <stinkfist> thanks!
[10:22] <stinkfist> so it doesnt provide u proxies
[10:22] <stinkfist> hokey
[10:22] <sean_432> sod this waste of time system back to windows
[10:23] <raven_> 11.10 .gvfs - where are mounted ssh drives?
[10:23] <deej1976> stinkfist: Are you trying to setup firefox to use a proxy?
[10:24] <ChaiTiger> Ok this is really obscure
[10:24] <stinkfist> kind of yes
[10:24] <stinkfist> i want a proxy
[10:24] <ChaiTiger> To get my screen setup right I had to run an app called "Jockey" which allows installation of "restricted" drivers
[10:24] <ChaiTiger> *headdesk*
[10:24] <raven_> 11.10 .gvfs - where are mounted ssh drives?
[10:24] <deej1976> stinkfist: Do you have a proxy server already to use?
[10:25] <stinkfist> no...
[10:25] <stinkfist> i use the free ones on the internet
[10:25] <stinkfist> i thought maybe ... there is something like that
[10:25] <bodzio> hej
[10:25] <stinkfist> with an add on?
[10:25] <bodzio> witam wszystkichh
[10:25] <raven_> 11.10 .gvfs - where are mounted ssh drives?
[10:25] <stinkfist> or maybe im dreaming
[10:25] <sgo11> deej1976, after installing gnome-temes, gnome-themes-extras, gnome-themes-more. the shell user-theme extension is still disabled.
[10:25] <keithzg> Using an app to install restricted drivers is obscure? ahahahaha
[10:26] <deej1976> stinkfist: Firefox already has the ability to use a proxy. Firefox Preferences->Advanced(tab)->Network->Connection Settings
[10:26] <raven_> googleearth + 11.10 - freezing system at any time also in safe graphics mode - why?
[10:27] <stinkfist> no way...
[10:27] <stinkfist> thanks
[10:27] <deej1976> sgo11: A quick look on a few forums showed the gnome3.2 was rushed out, and shell themes will be enabled in 3.4. I'm up for being corrected.
[10:28] <sgo11> deej1976, got it. thanks. but what is different between gtk+ theme and shell theme?
[10:29] <deej1976> sgo11: Sorry, I'm not sure.
[10:31] <raven_> googleearth + 11.10 - freezing system at any time also in safe graphics mode - why?
[10:31] <raven_> 11.10 .gvfs - where are mounted ssh drives?
[10:31] <sgo11> deej1976, no worries. thanks a lot for your reply. I am just confused. in gnome-look.org, most gnome-shell themes say they support gnome-shell 3.2. Currently, I think I am using ubuntu's ambiance theme. it works fine. not sure what are the difference. :)
[10:32] <sgo11> I will simply pick one in gnome-look.org to see if I can install them and use them properly. haven't downloaded any yet.
[10:32] <stinkfist> omg it worked
[10:32] <stinkfist> jesus
[10:32] <stinkfist> christ
[10:32] <geirha> raven_: You mean they're not in ~/.gvfs/ in Ubuntu 11.10?
[10:32] <raven_> geirha, right where are they?
[10:32] <deej1976> !return | stinkfist
[10:33] <stinkfist> alright deej1976. im sorry . also thanks a lot to whoever suggested the firefox settings. ur a genius.
[10:33] <Barbarian> It was deej1976
[10:34]  * deej1976 puts trumpet down
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> \o/
[10:34] <raven_> geirha, right where are they?
[10:34] <geirha> raven_: I just tried; it showed up under ~/.gvfs/ as usual ...
[10:35] <raven_> geirha, hm i have no .gvfs in my home folder
[10:36] <geirha> raven_: It starts with a . so it'll be hidden by default
[10:36] <conntrack> Hey
[10:36] <raven_> geirha, yes it is not there
[10:38] <geirha> raven_: Odd. Does   ps -ef | grep '[g]vfs-fuse'    show any processes?
[10:38] <arfah> cara ngedit ubuntu gmana?
[10:39] <raven_> geirha, nothing what looks like a mounted folder
[10:40] <geirha> raven_: So it doesn't output anything?
[10:40] <raven_> geirha, right
[10:42] <geirha> raven_: It should've been running. I don't know what could be wrong.
[10:42] <raven_> geirha, hm did you upgrade or is it a new install?
[10:43] <sagaci> also, is LibreOffice backported to 10.04.3, or do you have to get it via a ppa
[10:43] <geirha> raven_: That one has a new install.
[10:44] <iceroot> sagaci: have a look at the backports
[10:44] <raven_> geirha, strange - me too
[10:44] <iceroot> !backports | sagaci
[10:44] <raven_> geirha, gvfs-fuse is installed also
[10:46] <Alasia> can anyone help me setting up postfix? i have already installed posfix with a local-only configuration. what do i have to do to send mails to a local exchange-server.
[10:47] <geirha> raven_: is gvfsd currently running?
[10:49] <raven_> geirha, i think so i have connection to sshfs
[10:50] <geirha> raven_: oh wait, sshfs? that's not used with gvfs
[10:51] <geirha> raven_: I thought you had connected via nautilus's file -> connect to server...
[10:51] <raven_> geirha, sftp then - i connected via ssh://user@host/
[10:51] <geirha> raven_: Ah ok, yeah, that should've been mounted with gvfs
[10:53]  * trapni waves
[10:53] <trapni> hey guys, I'm having a ubuntu server here, with kernel version 2.6.24-16-server, and I need its source code. I can't find it via `dpkg -l | grep linux-` - so how do I get this kernels source code?
[10:55] <deej1976> trapni: apt-get install linux-source ?
[10:55] <deej1976> trapni: sudo apt-get install linux-source ?
[10:56] <trapni> deej1976: ai, thanks :)
[10:56] <metallico> hi guys, i am trying to justify this navigation menu to be from the left to the right side of the container but it doesnt work for some reason: http://webdev.sco.biz/yjn/
[10:57] <muhammed> how to change login window theme??
[10:58] <raven_> geirha, how to solve that?
[10:58] <metallico> got it here http://webdev.sco.biz/yjh/ but not on the joomla one (my guess is there is a rule somewhere that breaks it)
[11:00] <metallico> sorry wrong chan :)
[11:00] <arlo> hello anyone can help me to set a php local?
[11:00] <arlo> with teameiwer?
[11:00] <geirha> raven_: I don't know I'm afraid. I don't know how it's put together. For me it has always just worked ...
[11:00] <arlo> php mail local
[11:00] <muhammed> can any1 help me to change my login window theme???
[11:02] <muhammed> metallico : u mean in ur website???
[11:03] <raven_> googleearth + 11.10 - freezing system at any time also in safe graphics mode - why?
[11:06] <raven_> googleearth + 11.10 - freezing system at any time also in safe graphics mode - why?
[11:07] <trapni> raven_: maybe because it's using any hw accelerated 3d that your graphics drivers sucks at ;)
[11:07] <ledzgio> hi all
[11:08] <ledzgio> does anyone could help me with a driver problem? it is an ethernet card, atheros AR8151 driver atl1c
[11:08] <ledzgio> it gets disconnected very often
[11:08] <raven_> trapni, how to solve that
[11:08] <ledzgio> and it happen with 3.0.14, 3.1 and 3.2-rc4 kernels
[11:10] <trapni> raven_: too many different ways for too many different types of errors. basically, you're always fine with a nvidia card and its binary driver. I dunno about your setup, but that's what I'd recommend; OTOH, just don't use the OpenGL-mode, or make it software-rasterizing, or ... you know :)
[11:10] <raven_> trapni, i have all that
[11:12] <trapni> raven_: look at your kernel logs (/var/log/*)
[11:13] <ledzgio> nothing?
[11:14] <ledzgio> atl1c driver??
[11:16] <Joners> Can anyone suggest a way to send email via an smtp server?
[11:17] <deej1976> Joners: !info ssmtp
[11:18] <deej1976> !info ssmtp | Joners:
[11:18] <Joners> cool thank you for that!
[11:22] <theadmin> muhammed: Not currently possible. I don't think lightdm supports theming just yet.
[11:23] <muhammed> theadmin: lightdm can be used to change theme images
[11:24] <theadmin> muhammed: Um, just like I said, no. Lightdm doesn't support themes YET.
[11:24] <theadmin> muhammed: Might at some point
[11:24] <theadmin> Or at least so I heard
[11:24] <muhammed> hmm
[11:24] <muhammed> k
[11:24] <muhammed> theadmin:thanx
[11:24] <muhammed> :)
[11:27] <joep_> Hi, I have a question regarding Xubuntu (version Oneiric) that I put on an USB-stick for starting a system.
[11:28] <shomon> !ask
[11:28] <joep_> It start a system but doesn't go any farterh than checking the battery state which for a desktop system is pretty useless. Has anybody an idea how to resolve this?
[11:29] <theadmin> joep_: How did you create the USB stick? Likely the wrong way...
[11:29] <is_null> hi all, anybody managed to get thunderbird to be stable ? what email client do you use ?
[11:29] <shomon> I'm not a laptop technician, but maybe if you try with another USB stick, and then try without the batter, just plugged into the mains
[11:29] <theadmin> is_null: Try mutt :D
[11:29] <shomon> is_null, yes I use thunderbird
[11:29] <joep_> theadmin, thanks for your quick reply.
[11:30] <theadmin> is_null: I myself use the GMail's web-ui
[11:30] <shomon> sylpheed is more to my liking
[11:30] <is_null> shomon: what optimisations do you recommend ?
[11:30] <joep_> I did it using the ubuntu utility for that from UBUNTU 10.04
[11:30] <truepurple> Can anyone help me recover a session?
[11:30] <shomon> is_null, I use only a translation plug-in, and turn off scripts. is that what you mean?
[11:30] <theadmin> joep_: Oh, that won't work if it's an older version, um... Newer images (starting with Oneric) no longer work with that I beleive.
[11:30] <theadmin> joep_: But, you can dd them.
[11:31] <ciunix> hi all I'd like to install some gems in my ubuntu desktop. I did "gem install slim" and it was ok, after when I try to use it eg. require "slim" I get an error
[11:31] <is_null> shomon: often it's slow and sometimes it hangs while i'm writing a message, after a minute or so it's back to normal
[11:31] <is_null> actually i'm suprised because it can hang anytime ...
[11:31] <shomon> I use ad-block, a spanish dictionary for spellchecking, and quick translator...
[11:31] <joep_> theadmin, SH..! what useless change did they make to annoy users any more (I use xubuntu because of Unity!).
[11:32] <shomon> is_null, yes it does that with my huge gmail account sometimes :)
[11:32] <shomon> especially with a fancy theme
[11:32] <is_null> right, i have 3 hudge gmail accounts :(
[11:32] <theadmin> joep_: The images are now hybrid images so you can FINALLY create USB sticks without stupid tools like unetbootin or usb-creator, just by writing them to the drive directly. How is that bad?
[11:32] <shomon> ah there is also #thunderbird
[11:33] <is_null> seems like there is a lot to do: http://www.smallbusinesstech.net/more-complicated-instructions/web-and-email/Optimizing-Thunderbird-to-work-with-a-Gmail-IMAP
[11:33] <theadmin> joep_: sudo dd if=something.iso of=/dev/sdb # From basically any Linux install, where "sdb" is your USB stick
[11:33] <is_null> thanks for your feedback
[11:33] <massimo123> hi
[11:33] <is_null> theadmin: bs=512 makes it much faster :)
[11:33] <muhammed> my system has affected with virus...i double clicked on a exe file.wine started it..how cai remove those viruses from linux
[11:34] <joep_> theadmin, No, that's OK but how to do it right? Using dd to write to an USB-stick? Or is there a small tool to perform it (like in CD-write).
[11:34] <is_null> well there is unetbootin
[11:34] <theadmin> joep_: dd works
[11:35] <theadmin> joep_: From Windows, I think LiLi works best
[11:35] <is_null> i thought dd worked only with isos which support both isolinux and syslinux, i'm unsure
[11:35] <ledzgio> anyone with ethernet driver issues?
[11:36] <almoxarife> !clamav | muhammed
[11:37] <almoxarife> !info clamav | muhammed
[11:37] <theadmin> is_null: I heard it works with 11.10 and later ISOs, not sure why
[11:37] <joep_> theadmin, I only use windows for a special program (FINALE) that won't run on Linux. Otherwise I haven't used it for over nearly 20 years (I started with Ultrix).
[11:37] <deej1976> !anyone | ledzgio
[11:38] <theadmin> joep_: lol, then um, why use Ubuntu if it's all that bad? Can't you run something like Gentoo or Arch or, hell, FreeBSD?
[11:38] <muhammed> ubottu: how it can be istalled??
[11:38] <ledzgio> ok my Atheros AR8151 ethernet card get disconnected very often
[11:38] <ledzgio> driver used is atl1c
[11:38] <ledzgio> ubuntu 11.10
[11:38] <ledzgio> I have tried kernel 3.0.14, 3.1 and 3.2-rc4
[11:38] <is_null> theadmin: dd is good with isos that support isolinux, and unetbootin with isos that support syslinux i think, there's something like that behind the scene
[11:39] <ledzgio> does anyone know how to fix it?
[11:39] <deej1976> ledzgio: Have you looked at the wifi trouble shooting documentation?
[11:40] <muhammed> ubottu: :)
[11:40] <joep_> theadmin, You understood me wrong. I have used different Unixes (Suse, RedHat, etc) but Ubuntu up to 10.04 suits me perfect. Only Unity is not my cup-of-tea and Xubuntu us iagin very much OK.
[11:40] <_SHO_> How do I install a .deb package into a specific directory??
[11:40] <theadmin> _SHO_: You do NOT do that.
[11:40] <is_null> i think anybody who learns unity keyboard shortcut can only *love* unity
[11:41] <ledzgio> its not wifi but ethernet
[11:41] <_SHO_> why not?
[11:41] <theadmin> joep_: Yeah I hate Unity too but, okay, I understand. I myself am an Arch user :D
[11:41] <is_null> i myself am *very* difficult when it comes to window managers, i've used dwm for years ... but hey finnaly unity works
[11:41] <ledzgio> but yes, I haven't found any solution to to this
[11:41] <is_null> i use arch on servers and poor hardware, great distro!
[11:41] <joep_> theadmin, Well, it has its charms!!
[11:42] <muhammed> how to create user account in IRC
[11:42] <is_null> unity *is* a *big* step forward in window management for the masses
[11:42] <catphish> is there a way i can list what PPAs are active in ubuntu, and list packages in them?
[11:42] <is_null> muhammed: /query nickserv help
[11:42] <Myrtti> !register | muhammed
[11:43] <catphish> i've installed a PPA but it doesn't appear to be having any effect, i just want to check it's active and see what's in it
[11:43] <joep_> theadmin, with dd you mean to dd the .iso file to the USb-stck?
[11:43] <theadmin> joep_: Yeah, basically
[11:43] <almoxarife> catphish: yes, look at synaptic
[11:43] <is_null> i admit i miss automatic window tiling from dwm, i hope it will make its way into Unity!
[11:43] <catphish> almoxarife: i only have CLI
[11:43] <theadmin> is_null: Doubtful... Unity is a stacking wm
[11:43] <joep_> theadmin, What you mean basically?
[11:44] <theadmin> joep_: Well, I mean yeah, that'd work, unless there's some weirdness to watch out for that I'm unaware of
[11:44] <is_null> theadmin: well there are shortcuts to move a window to the edges and corners so all it lacks is some automatism
[11:44] <deej1976> catphish: sudo apt-get update , you should see the ppa update
[11:44] <theadmin> is_null: Well yeah, I understand that
[11:44] <is_null> say i ctrl+click several items in the launcher it would tile them
[11:45] <catphish> deej1976: Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-virt/ppa/ubuntu/ lucid/main Translation-en_GB
[11:45] <is_null> or ctrl+shortcut(Mod4+[0-9]) of course ^^
[11:45] <joep_> OK, I see. Well I have sufficient sticks lying around. I need it to rescue aHD that I now have in the freezer, because it made that ominous clicking sound!.
[11:45] <catphish> what does Ign mean?
[11:45] <deej1976> catphish: Ignored
[11:45] <dj_smilee> hello, I've just update my server to 11.10 and i'm reconfiguring my dhcp server, it would appear dhcp3-server is deprecated and its using dhcpd again, but I have duplicate configurations.. any ideas how to safely confirm which one is running and wether I can remove the old config?
[11:45] <catphish> hmm :(
[11:46] <theadmin> dj_smilee: pgrep dhcpd && pgrep dhcp3-server?
[11:46] <catphish> maybe it's just already up to date? or is that actually a potential problem?
[11:47] <theadmin> joep_: Do you mind to /query me?
[11:47] <theadmin> catphish: Nah happens all the time, it's normal
[11:47] <milligan> If I'm running 32bit ubuntu , and I have 4 gigs of RAM, will it be useless to add more RAM to it ?
[11:47] <theadmin> milligan: Correct.
[11:47] <catphish> so is there a way to find out what has been downloaded from that PPA?
[11:47] <milligan> damnit :P
[11:47] <dj_smilee> theadmin: dhcpd    10133  0.0  0.1   4704  2520 ?        Ss   Nov28   0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcpd -q -pf /var/run/dhcp-server/
[11:47] <joep_> theadmin, I don't understand what you mean by /query?
[11:47] <catphish> as far as i can tell, its not actually working, ie packages in it arent being upgraded
[11:47] <theadmin> dj_smilee: Well, dhcpcd is running
[11:48] <theadmin> joep_: Um, open a private message window with me... Or something like that, that's normally done by the /query command in IRC...
[11:48] <theadmin> dj_smilee: Err, dhcpd
[11:48] <theadmin> dj_smilee: Keep messing them up
[11:48] <dj_smilee> theadmin: I have dhcp3 in /etc/ still
[11:48] <dj_smilee> theadmin: with seemingly duplicate configs
[11:48] <theadmin> dj_smilee: Might be safe enough to remove, probably leftovers xD
[11:48] <joep_> theadmin, Oh, I see. I'm not the known with IRC as I use it seldom. I'll try that.
[11:49] <theadmin> dj_smilee: Try to move it somewhere first and see if stuff still works?
[11:49] <dj_smilee> if I try and remove dhcp3 with apt it marks the ISC dhcp server for removal too
[11:49] <dj_smilee> which is the current one I believe
[11:49] <ewgeny_> hi
[11:49] <dj_smilee> yeah I'll give that a go theadmin, just wish it was tidier, you know? ;)
[11:50] <theadmin> dj_smilee: lol yeah that'd make sense
[11:51] <muhammed> how to change irc password??
[11:51] <theadmin> muhammed: /msg nickserv set password newpassword
[11:52] <ewgeny_> what i can do with ext3. now it undefined
[11:54] <dj_smilee> this is very confusing
[11:54] <dj_smilee> lots of conflicting documentation
[11:55] <AdvoWork> hi there, anyone got any suggestions to this, every spreadsheet i copy from open office spreadsheet, and paste into open office word processor, it comes through as an ole object rather than the actual data. Any suggestions please, its only started doing this recently..
[11:56] <html> did you updated it?
[11:57] <AdvoWork> html, yeah just
[11:57] <AdvoWork> i mean, to try and fix it
[11:57] <AdvoWork> but made no difference
[11:58] <html> awww,,
[11:58] <html> what time is it there?
[11:58] <html> wow it late late night
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> 1pm here
[12:00] <html> (yawn ) well i guess find that one update first , look  for what was just pushed out  AdvoWork
[12:02] <html> MonkeyDust,  did you see the fairy looking for you? and did i dream that??.....
[12:02] <pangolin> !ot | html
[12:02] <html> sorry wrong channel
[12:02] <html> later
[12:04] <almoxarife> what is the equiv of gnome-system-monitor in kubuntu?
[12:05] <theadmin> almoxarife: None by default really, you can install htop which is pretty universal
[12:06] <html> oh i remember what i was here for ,  i cant seem to get a sd mini to mount , i put an adapter on to make it an  sd card,,, but alas  still nothing
[12:06] <ceegee> hi there
[12:06] <html> hi
[12:06] <ceegee> I would like to start guake terminal automaticly with my gnome session, how can I do that?
[12:07] <ceegee> I am using unity desktop, not gnome, sorry
[12:08] <theadmin> ceegee: WinKey -> Startup Applications (search for it) -> Add it
[12:08] <html> huh? like an auto runn program ,liken to windows? ceegee
[12:09] <ceegee> yes
[12:09] <RossDoughty> Hey all
[12:09] <html> hui
[12:10] <html> RossDoughty,  hi
[12:10] <pangolin> ceegee: sudo cp /usr/share/applications/guake.desktop /etc/xdg/autostart/
[12:10] <ceegee> theadmin: I can not find autostart applications
[12:10] <html> oh i remember what i was here for ,  i cant seem to get a sd mini to mount , i put an adapter on to make it an  sd card,,, but alas  still nothing,, i would like to mount this micro sd  so i can put linux on it,,
[12:11] <theadmin> ceegee: It's called "Startup Applications". You're searching it wrong.
[12:11] <RaTTuS|BIG> html  - sudo fdisk -l - is it mentioned
[12:11] <theadmin> html: Linux on a sd card? How that's supposed to boot?
[12:11] <ceegee> theadmin: thank you, now I found it
[12:12] <RaTTuS|BIG> theadmin - works for me .... as the sd card is bootable in the bios
[12:13] <html> ive done it before  but its the micro sd card that you mUSTT fight with , and that can be alot..
[12:13] <MeirD> Is there anyway i can get the full parh of a process in the "ps" output?
[12:13] <MeirD> i.e.,, I have a string with full path to the process /a/home/somedir/script.sh
[12:13] <ichbinder> hello. For the first time, I started "Additional Drivers" in my Ubuntu 11.04, using gnome 2 as WM. There, it shows "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version current) [Recommended]" and it says: "This driver is activated but not currently in use." What exactly does that mean? Will it use the driver, whenever an application needs 3D rendering? I tried glxgears, but that runs  not smoothly at all... :(
[12:14] <Anomie21> Anyone using Pidgin in Ubuntu? (11.10) How the hell do I see the buddy list? Driving me mad
[12:14] <MeirD> I want to know if it is running, but the ps output only uses relative path... ./script.sh
[12:14] <iceroot> MeirD: ps aux is using absolut paths
[12:14] <geirha> MeirD: Are you trying to make sure only one instance of your script is running at a time?
[12:15] <MeirD> yes
[12:15] <almoxarife> Anomie21: see the icon on the top bar?
[12:15] <iceroot> MeirD: if you want what geirha said use pid/lock-files
[12:15] <MeirD> I am trying to see if the process is running
[12:15] <MeirD> I have its full path
[12:15] <geirha> MeirD: Then see http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/045 for a better approach
[12:15] <Anomie21> almoxarife: yep
[12:15] <ceegee> is it possible to sort the order of my icons in the quickstart bar on the left side of my desktop?
[12:15] <MeirD> I only have /a/home/somedir/script.sh and I need to see if it runs
[12:15] <almoxarife> Anomie21: click on it
[12:15] <html> RaTTuS|BIG,  thanks , so how do i know it worked? and is there an app  for this  stuff?
[12:15] <Anomie21> almoxarife: yeh, then what?
[12:16] <MeirD> I dont care if it is running more than one instance, sorry
[12:16] <MeirD> I just need to know if it runs
[12:16] <MeirD> using its absolute path
[12:16] <almoxarife> Anomie21: should see the buddy list
[12:16] <Sidewinder1> ichbinder, Not sure but perhaps you need to reboot to get it "in use?"
[12:16] <Anomie21> almoxarife: Nope, that just brings up 'Pidgin Internet Messenger' in the top panel and lets me select options (like new instant message, etc)
[12:17] <geirha> MeirD: The abosulte path is not stored in the process table
[12:17] <MeirD> oh ok
[12:17] <MeirD> thanks
[12:17] <almoxarife> Anomie21: left click
[12:17] <ichbinder> MeirD: couldn't you try to send kill 0 to your process, as in http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/042
[12:18] <ichbinder> Sidewinder1: hm, don't think so as this system is not newly installed but running since months. I just realized, that somethings wrong... and I think it worked a while ago...
[12:18] <arlo> anyone can help me with php mail ?
[12:18] <Anomie21> almoxarife: yep, thats what I'm doing.
[12:19] <deej1976> arlo: what is the problem?
[12:19] <Anomie21> almoxarife: The only way I can do it currently is to close all chats I'm in currently and then do it
[12:19] <almoxarife> Anomie21: works for me, no idea why it would be different for you
[12:20] <ichbinder> also: glxgears - info gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/762636/ and that looks like my graphics card and the driver is used...?!
[12:20] <arlo> deej1976
[12:20] <arlo> i have a ubuntu server, my phpmail not working
[12:20] <arlo> can help me with this problem with teamwiewer is to 2 seconds
[12:20] <Sidewinder1> ichbinder, Once you've activated it, if it says "not in use', I don't think a reboot would hurt; just a suggestion and what I would try in your situation, but, I'm running 10.04.
[12:22] <KFP> Is there a way to temporarily disable PulseAudio without removing it?
[12:23] <ichbinder> Sidewinder1: hm, yeah that sounds logical. But I didn't activate it myself! I just started "additional drivers" and there these messages were.... so I never hit the "activate" button or so
[12:23] <ichbinder> Sidewinder1: i now removed it and will activate it myself again...
[12:23] <ichbinder> Sidewinder1: maybe that helps... :)
[12:24] <Sidewinder1> ichbinder, Good luck!
[12:24] <deej1976> arlo: What is errors are you
[12:24] <ichbinder> Sidewinder1: thanks. ^^
[12:24] <pigiman> hey, is it possible to split my desktop toolbar when using to monitors, so I would see that open files\apps each one on his own desktop toolbar? sorry for bad english\explanation ;o
[12:24] <deej1976> arlo: What errors are you see/getting in the apache logs
[12:24] <arlo> is log file?
[12:24] <arlo> what is log file name
[12:25] <html> any known sd card apps?
[12:26] <RaTTuS|BIG> html - what does sudo fdisk -l say
[12:26] <deej1976> arlo: Which web server are you running?
[12:26] <arlo> Ubuntu
[12:26] <arlo> ubuntu 10.lts
[12:27] <deej1976> arlo: No that's the linux distro, Apache is a web server
[12:27] <KFP> Is there a way to temporarily disable PulseAudio without removing it?
[12:27] <slugzzz> Hey all, I am having a silly issue. When I maximize a window in ubuntu 11.10 (particularilly a 'window'), I can't seem to minimize out of it again... I can't get the max-min-resize bar to pop up again... any ideas?
[12:27] <html> RaTTuS|BIG,  nothing
[12:27] <arlo> yes i have apache2
[12:27] <RaTTuS|BIG> ok - tail -f /var/log/syslog and replug it in - anything gets mentioned
[12:28] <deej1976> arlo: Log files are in: /var/log/apache2
[12:32] <KFP> slugzzz: It's a bit different than in older Ubuntus and other OSes. The min/max buttons are only shown when you move the mouse cursor to the top bar.
[12:33] <ichbinder> Sidewinder1: nope, didn't work. Same comment in "Additional Drivers"
[12:33] <Sidewinder1> Rats!
[12:34] <ichbinder> is it possible that my driver is set to "currently not in use" because it's not used by X? Do I have to do "$ sudo nvidia-xconfig" or so?
[12:35] <html> RaTTuS|BIG,  http://pastebin.com/qYf4qPgw
[12:35] <as2122> Can I get gdm to launch the .xsessions file in my home directory without a custom .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions? I don't have sudo powers on this system.
[12:36] <Phreak_> Hi niggers.
[12:36] <Phreak_> ikonia: Hi nigger.
[12:37] <Girffe> I was installing 11.10 on my computer, and it said there was an error in the installation. Now, when I try to open the boot menu from my BIOS (before booting into win7/ubuntu), it either restarts immediately or brings me to the menu but doesn't accept key input
[12:38] <Girffe> Can the installation somehow screw with your BIOS?
[12:38] <pangolin> no
[12:38] <Girffe> Any ideas, then?
[12:38] <Girffe> because I was able to use the menu before to use the installation usb
[12:38] <Girffe> then, after trying to install it and it not working, the menu doesn't work anymore
[12:39] <RaTTuS|BIG> html and then sudo fdisk -l ?
[12:39] <ichbinder> nope, also nvidia-xconfig did not help, glxgears is still running slow as hell.
[12:39] <pangolin> Girffe: sorry I don't have any ideas but the ubuntu install process wouldn't change anything in bios
[12:41] <RaTTuS|BIG> eek - back in 1hr or so
[12:41] <html> huh? y?
[12:42] <html> i see it working , but i cant get to the files
[12:42] <ThSenior> anyone knows why when im transfering data to a usb stick CPU is too loaded
[12:42] <ThSenior> mount.ntfs uses about 25%
[12:43] <Stratisphere> hi all, got some questions about compiling a patch into oneiric kernel, is this the right channel to ask?
[12:43] <ThSenior> kiofile
[12:43] <ThSenior> dolphin also
[12:43] <Stratisphere> nm, just found it ;)
[12:43] <auronandace> ThSenior: thats normal for ntfs on external ddrives or usb sticks
[12:43] <pangolin> ThSenior: might try #ubuntu-kernel
[12:44] <pangolin> be patient :)
[12:44] <Guest4022> hello
[12:44] <pangolin> err sorry ThSenior wrong person
[12:44] <private_meta> Heya. My aptitude update tells me that updating my kernel fails, post-installation script returned error exit status 2, any idea what I can do? I tried apt-get clean, autoclean, autoremove, and make a new update/pgrade, but that didn't work, any idea?
[12:44] <Guest4022> i am looking for addon to firefox for burning cd'd
[12:45] <ThSenior> auronandace why its normal? seems like I cant transfer more than 12MBps because of the CPU usage.
[12:45] <Stratisphere> pangolin, cheers, I read the irc info above and got it :) thank you anyway!
[12:45] <pangolin> welcome
[12:45] <auronandace> Guest4022: why not use xfburn or brasero (why a firefox addon?)
[12:46] <html> ThSenior,   moving files ?  well i guess its just the way it is,
[12:46] <auronandace> ThSenior: its always been that way with me, you may need to ask the devs of ntfs-3g
[12:47] <ThSenior> ah ok
[12:47] <JayAge> anyone encountered this one: when I plug in any drive into USB, gnome disk mounter applet is shown twice (or even more times) for each device. only one icon is created on the desktop though. i'm on natty
[12:47] <ThSenior> btw why only root can modify a samba mounted dir...
[12:48] <ThSenior> the dirs are created with the user and mounted with fstab...
[12:48] <Girffe> ok, I screwed up
[12:48] <Girffe> I decided to just delete the partitions of my C: drive that had Ubuntu on it and put them back with the win7 partition
[12:49] <Phreak_> Mac OS X Lion - the world's most advanced operating system. Available for $29.99 from the Mac App store.
[12:49] <Guest4022> auronandace: thats for my grandmather, she can not use to many programs. its hardly to learn anything in her age. i need portable firefox with these addon 1. burn cd's. 2. automatic read text in browser  3 tranlator
[12:49] <Girffe> it fixed the error I was having with the boot menu but since Ubuntu was the boot default, my computer can't boot anymore
[12:49] <pangolin> !ot | Phreak_
[12:49] <RGUYASD> HAIL !!!!
[12:49] <RGUYASD> gentlement
[12:49] <Girffe> right now I'm just running Ubuntu off the usb, how can I set it to boot windows again?
[12:49] <pangolin> Girffe: reboot and hold shift key that will give you the option to boot to windows
[12:49] <RGUYASD> i'm trying to make the smallest Ubuntu that i can but it's not working
[12:49] <RGUYASD> any ideas ?
[12:50] <Girffe> can I do it within ubuntu or will I need a win7 disc?
[12:50] <pangolin> Girffe: if you deleted the ubuntu partition you will need to reinstall
[12:50] <ichbinder> pangolin: just ignore Phreak_, he's trolling and greeted with: "Hi niggers."
[12:50] <pangolin> ichbinder: yes I know. please don't repeat that though.
[12:50] <auronandace> Guest4022: sorry no idea, i prefer to use chromium, can you search the addons site for firefox?
[12:50] <Phreak_> ichbinder: please don't spread false assertions.
[12:50] <RGUYASD> HAIL ichbinder
[12:50] <deej1976> RGUYASD: Alternate install?
[12:50] <Girffe> Ok, is there a way to make it automatically boot from windows from now on, though?
[12:51] <RGUYASD> deej1976 i did a server install but the size is still too large
[12:51] <RGUYASD> 1.2GB
[12:51] <RGUYASD> i want it to be smaller
[12:51] <Girffe> I'm kind of done with Ubuntu for now, given what's happened recently, so I'd rather not reinstall it just to have it act as a boot manu
[12:51] <Phreak_> pangolin: You're just a dumb nigger
[12:51] <ichbinder> ^^
[12:51] <auronandace> !mini | RGUYASD
[12:52] <RGUYASD> i already used the minimal CD and i want it to be smaller than 1.2GB
[12:52] <RGUYASD> nobody bothered to do it?
[12:52] <auronandace> RGUYASD: that would be rather difficult to acheive with ubuntu
[12:53] <Guest4022> auronandace: i try not not found, i also try ask in Firefox channel but there no respond. i need thats addos for work in offline, my grandmother have torubles with online internet, and i can not all time ware of every her step
[12:53] <private_meta> Can someone help me with that aptitude problem?
[12:53] <deej1976> RGUYASD: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[12:53] <RGUYASD> auronandace someone made a 180MB ubuntu without a GUI but i don't know how to make it install on a hardddisk
[12:53] <RGUYASD> if i can i will build a GUI on it
[12:55] <JayAge> no one got multiple disk mounter applets popping up on USB drive inserts on natty?
[12:55] <html> natty? means?10.04?
[12:55] <deej1976> RGUYASD: Others, tinycorelinux, puppylinux
[12:55] <JayAge> 11.04
[12:55] <auronandace> html: 11.04
[12:55] <deej1976> !natty | html
[12:55] <RGUYASD> deej1976 ok man
[12:55] <html> ah..
[12:55] <RGUYASD> i rather deal with ubuntu but i will try other distro
[12:55] <deej1976> RGUYASD: Might be a better option for you
[12:56] <pqatsi> Ive noticed apt-pinning dont work verywell for new ubuntu versions, and the best approach is use apt-get install package/precise - as example. But i see it dont updates these packages automatically. So, what is the best way to install ONLY one package and their dependences from another version and keep it upgraded?
[12:56] <JayAge> lucid wasn't doing it, btw.
[12:56] <pangolin> pqatsi: mixing versions is not recommended or supported
[12:57] <pqatsi> pangolin: i know both and i know what im doing
[12:57] <pangolin> pqatsi: in that case you don't need our help
[12:57] <pqatsi> pangolin: i just cant find a way to do this rightly since apt-pinning dont work anymmore
[12:58] <private_meta> http://pastebin.com/8rxbMd2n <-- any idea how to fix that?
[12:58] <bastidrazor> pqatsi: pinning isn't broken. i have it working in 10.04 and 11.10
[12:58] <private_meta> oh
[12:58] <private_meta> no space left on drive
[12:58] <private_meta> now i see
[12:58] <bastidrazor> pqatsi: if you use update-manager then its possible apt-pinning will not work since you're not using apt.
[12:59] <pqatsi> bastidrazor: so i cant understand, because i increase the priority in preferences.d and even this way apt-cache policy give me a 100 to precise and 999 to oineric
[12:59] <pqatsi> bastidrazor: apt/aptitude
[12:59] <pqatsi> no graphic management
[13:00] <pqatsi> a example: linux-image
[13:00] <roansh> Guys, I get an error when trying to install new packages "Broken packages"
[13:01] <Girffe> I  tried holding shift while rebooting, it didn't let me boot windows, though
[13:01] <pangolin> !fixmbr | Girffe
[13:02] <Girffe> Is there a way I can make windows 7 boot automatically again, as it did before I tried instsalling ubuntu?
[13:02] <Girffe> I'm the guy who deleted the ubuntu partitions and added them to the windows partition
[13:02] <Sidewinder1> roansh, I know Synaptic has a "fix broken packages"; not sure how to do it from command line.. :-(
[13:02] <pqatsi> pangolin and bastidrazor: the best approach i found is use "apt-get install xpto/precise" and update it. but i still cant understand why priority on apt-cache still lower than oineric
[13:03]  * pqatsi explains its a experimental machine
[13:04] <roansh> Okay Sidewinder1
[13:04] <pangolin> pqatsi: precise is not supported here, you may be able to get more help in #ubuntu+1
[13:04] <Girffe> is there any way I can make windows 7 boot automatically again, without ubuntu?
[13:04] <pqatsi> pangolin: isnt a precise issue, apt/apt-get/aptitude version is from oineric
[13:04] <pqatsi> and im using a version different from oineric only for one package (and their dependencies)
[13:04] <pangolin> pqatsi: right but you are using a precise package.
[13:05] <Sidewinder1> !windows > Girffe
[13:05] <pqatsi> pangolin: and btw, this precise package works like a glove :p my question is about apt priority and pinning
[13:05] <pqatsi> im worried about this: http://pastebin.com/ks0jz4L2
[13:05] <Girffe> This isn't about windows, though, as I need to do it through ubuntu
[13:05] <pangolin> pqatsi: I don't want to argue with you. I am telling you what you are doing is not supported.
[13:06] <Girffe> Is there some way to change the boot default through the partition manager?
[13:06] <jelly> Hi, is there a known problem with paste.ubuntu.com database?
[13:06] <jelly> I'm seeing different pastes, and dates in future.
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> Girffe  change it in grub
[13:06] <auronandace> MonkeyDust: he deleted ubuntu, grub won't work
[13:07] <Girffe> I'm running ubuntu off a usb now, can I still do it?
[13:07] <pqatsi> pangolin: i dont want "support", im asking if someone works with pinning and can explain me
[13:07] <pangolin> pqatsi: that is the definition of support
[13:07] <jelly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/762549/ eg. this timestamp won't have happened for 13 hours from now
[13:07] <pqatsi> aff
[13:07] <pangolin> Girffe: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/82928/how-to-make-windows-boot-first
[13:10] <e66> anyone know what is the room for gnome devs?
[13:10] <ichbinder> so, "Additional Drivers" now says that the nvidia driver is active and in use, after I followed what is suggested on http://askubuntu.com/questions/37590/nvidia-drivers-not-working-after-upgrade-why-can-i-only-see-terminal
[13:11] <ichbinder> however, running glxgears still is like watching a robot dance.
[13:11] <ichbinder> sloow
[13:11] <Girffe> I tried using the link you gave me, and the grub method, but when I type the line into the terminal it says "No such file or directory"
[13:12] <vixus> Hey all, can I get gdm to use the .xsession in my home directory?
[13:12] <Sidewinder1> Girffe, The only thing I can think of is to boot to the win emergency repair disk and type/click " Fix MBR".
[13:12] <jrib> vixus: yes, choose that option at the login screen (are you sure you are using gdm? lightdm is default now)
[13:12] <ichbinder> and the output of glxgears is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/762678/
[13:12] <ichbinder> :(
[13:13] <auronandace> Girffe: of course it would, you deleted the ubuntu partition
[13:13] <vixus> jrib: Using ubuntu 10.04, I think it's still GDM...
[13:13] <Girffe> Yeah, I was wondering about the win7 disk, guess I'll try that
[13:14] <Girffe> auronandace: Yeah, but I'm booting off the ubuntu USB right now, so it could be in the usb itself
[13:14] <Girffe> guess not, though
[13:14] <vixus> jrib: The option doesn't seem to be available, and I can't add files to /usr/share/xsessions.
[13:14] <jrib> vixus: yes.  At one point the option was missing, so you should search bugs.ubuntu.com for the bug (it exists but is now marked as "fix released" since it has been fixed in later versions).  In the comments you will see workarounds
[13:14] <jrib> vixus: why can't you add files to /usr/share/xsessions/?
[13:15] <vixus> jrib: this is a work computer and I only have sudo access to certain things (aptitude, synaptic, etc.)
[13:15] <jrib> vixus: so tell the administrator
[13:15] <jrib> vixus: (pointing him to the bug is probably the easiest thing to do)
[13:15] <vixus> jrib: ok, let me locate a thread that shows workarounds
[13:15] <auronandace> Girffe: if you are trying to get grub work you will need a partition for grub to be on (that would have been your ubuntu partition)
[13:16] <vixus> jrib: it's hard to get anything done that isn't urgent maintenance. all i want is to run a different WM. I thought it was possible with my own .xsession file
[13:16] <Girffe> auronandace: So there shouldn't be any way for me to make my computer boot from windows via the ubuntu disk?
[13:16] <jrib> vixus: sure, but to use it through gdm the option needs to exist :)
[13:16] <private_meta> Hey. I'm trying to set my LC_TIME locale to a different one so my calendar in a web app starts from monday. I've tried setting a german locale, but I'm not sure this works out correctly
[13:16] <private_meta> any idea how to fix it so I have monday as start of the week?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:17] <jrib> vixus: if you can login at a tty, you could just use a ~/.xinitrc and execute startx
[13:17] <^Mike> How can I get only security updates with apt-get on the command line?
[13:17] <Sidewinder1> Mornin' BluesKaj
[13:17] <auronandace> Girffe: i didn't say that, i said if you want to fix grub you will need a partition for grub to be on. an alternate is using fixmbr
[13:17] <vixus> jrib: hmm
[13:17] <vixus> jrib: i would have to kill the running x server though, right?
[13:17] <BluesKaj> hi Sidewinder1
[13:17] <sam_bris> anyone know of FOSS tools that will allow me to push M$ updates to a XP network?
[13:17] <auronandace> Girffe: i've seen someone suggest it but i can't remember how they did it sorry
[13:18] <ichbinder> nobody has an idea about my nvidia/glxgears issue?
[13:18] <jrib> vixus: nah you could start another X server (like: startx -- :1)
[13:18] <auronandace> Girffe: its either that or install a different bootloader
[13:18] <vixus> jrib: ok, let me try that
[13:18] <Girffe> auronandace: yeah, but if grub is on a partition wouldn't that mean you aren't using a boot disk?
[13:19] <Girffe> auronandace: also, what do you mean by a different bootloader? I thought the BIOS handled it by default, at least, I never manually installed a bootloader
[13:19] <jrib> vixus: here's the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/gdm/+bug/398300  I *vaguely* remember the bug getting fixed in an update to gdm *in* 10.04 (like in the -updates repository) so check that your gdm package is at its latest version (and that the -updates repository is enabled)
[13:19] <Sidewinder1> auronandace, I suggested that he boot to win emergency repair disk and "fix mbr".
[13:19] <Crankygeek> Hello everyone
[13:19] <auronandace> Girffe: follow Sidewinder1's advice
[13:19] <RGUYASD> hail crankygeek
[13:19] <Sidewinder1> :d
[13:19] <Girffe> yeah, I can get a win7 disk pretty easily anyway, thanks for the help guys!
[13:20] <Sidewinder1> np
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> Girffe  do you have windows install disk?
[13:20] <RGUYASD> you don't have to thank me
[13:20] <RGUYASD> i did nothing
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> ok
[13:20] <Girffe> at my university I can just get a free one anyway so yeah
[13:20] <RGUYASD> windows is not free girffe
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> linux is free, too ;)
[13:20] <Girffe> it is at u of waterloo
[13:20] <Daniel0108> can I ask a gnome3 related question here? (I'm asking, as Ubuntu doesn't really support it)
[13:20] <RGUYASD> also if you get it from the internet you can't guarantee that's it's free of spyware or viruses
[13:20] <Girffe> every student gets a free copy of win7
[13:21] <RGUYASD> you know that somebody can recontruct the windows into an ISO again
[13:21] <Cradam> !ask Daniel0108
[13:21] <RGUYASD> so they acn install whatever they want in it and turn it into a dvd iso
[13:21] <Daniel0108> Cradam: see the ()
[13:21] <vixus> jrib: I bet updates isn't enabled :)
[13:21] <Girffe> yeah but I'm getting it right from my university
[13:21] <Cradam> Daniel0108: !ask
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> !ask| Cradam
[13:21] <Girffe> I'd trust them, at least
[13:22] <Cradam> thanks MonkeyDust
[13:22] <Cradam> Daniel0108: window managers dont have much to do with the OS
[13:22] <Girffe> anyway thanks again for the help, I'm gonna go and get breakfast and the win7 disk
[13:22] <Girffe> later everyone
[13:22] <Daniel0108> Cradam: gnome3 doesn't have much to do with window managers.
[13:23] <ichbinder> Daniel0108: smartassing won't make more people help you. So ask your question and we'll see if somebody knows the answer.
[13:23] <harry_> hello guys, i want to to know how to enable window snapping in xubuntu beside using compiz?
[13:23] <vixus> jrib: oh, actually they are
[13:24] <shudacr> you advise me what? ubuntu or gentoo ?
[13:24] <vixus> jrib: How would I go about updating GDM?
[13:24] <Daniel0108> ichbinder: I already asked in the gnome channel, which is the right place for my question. Also, I just corrected him, as gnome3 is not a window manager.
[13:24] <jrib> vixus: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy gdm   would show you installed version and candidate version.  To update a package, you just run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install PACKAGE
[13:25] <vixus> jrib: ok, weird that this is the only candidate I see: 2.30.2.is.2.30.0-0ubuntu5.2
[13:26] <zygf_eenode> .
[13:27] <jrib> vixus: it's up to date then
[13:27] <vixus> hmm
[13:27] <jrib> vixus: you'll either have to ask the admin to add a session script like the comments to that bug describe or just use startx with your ~/.xinitrc
[13:28] <vixus> jrib: in the latter case, i run .xinitrc first and then startx?
[13:28] <jrib> vixus: startx will automatically run your ~/.xinitrc
[13:28] <vixus> ok
[13:28] <jrib> vixus: if you already have an xserver up, you may have to do something like: startx -- :1
[13:28] <vixus> ok
[13:29] <yao_ziyuan> what is the best free dictionary program today?
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> !best| yao_ziyuan
[13:30] <soreau> yao_ziyuan: google.com comes up with definitions pretty quickly ;)
[13:30] <vixus> jrib: ok, it worked
[13:30] <dubey> hello
[13:30] <vixus> jrib: thanks :)
[13:30] <jrib> vixus: no problem :)
[13:30] <vixus> i'll be off then
[13:30] <dubey> Is there any tool in ubuntu to connect to VMWare ESXI5 ?
[13:31] <jelly> ssh ?
[13:31] <WanderingEnder> dubey, you mean VMWare Infrastructure Client?
[13:31] <dubey> yes
[13:31] <bubu> hi guys, how could I gunzip the latest file in a directory and keep the archive??
[13:32] <WanderingEnder> Not that I know of. Have you went to your ESXi server's url to see what it offers you?
[13:33] <WanderingEnder> dubey, there is no Linux version. Use a Windows PC.
[13:34] <dubey> wine will work ?
[13:34] <WanderingEnder> google suggests maybe.
[13:35] <pangolin> How do I run googleearth-package? it is installed but I can't seem to figure out how to run it.
[13:35] <pangolin> nor can I find it in the menus
[13:36] <wwb> who ever used backtrack OS?  i have some problem
[13:36] <pangolin> !backtrack
[13:36] <jrib> pangolin is too quick :)
[13:36] <janolap1> Hi, I have a ubuntu serveur 8.04 LTS (which I has duplicated to make tests) with ubuntu-desktop. I did a "apt-get update" followed by "apt-get upgrade". When I reboot, the desktop stays with the background color only (no icons, no menu, no effects on left click, no effetcs on right click).
[13:36] <soreau> bubu: According to the gzip man page, -N should do it: When decompressing, restore the original file name and time stamp if  present.
[13:36] <jrib> janolap1: 8.04 desktop is no longer supported
[13:37] <soreau> bubu: or maybe I misunderstand it
[13:37] <jrib> !upgrade | janolap1
[13:37] <llutz_> bubu: gunzip -c file.gz  >file
[13:37] <wwb> who can give me a hand
[13:37] <jrib> wwb: you are not in the correct channel for the backtrack distribution
[13:37] <janolap1> jrib : thanx !
[13:38] <WanderingEnder> wwb, /join #backtrack-linux, ask there.
[13:38] <dacs129> hi all. may i ask question?
[13:38] <WanderingEnder> !ask | dacs129
[13:38] <llutz_> dacs129: you already did
[13:38] <BarkingFish> !ask | dacs129
[13:38] <warlock_handler> hi
[13:38] <wwb> the backrack chart don't have any people....who can:)
[13:39] <WanderingEnder> wwb, and we won't, so wait till someone there knows?
[13:39] <pangolin> wwb: they can, we can't.
[13:39] <BarkingFish> great minds think alike, WanderingEnder :)
[13:39] <dacs129> aha thx. i got this link from some1 is it dangerous to execute it? http://pastebin.com/pbb9KZd0
[13:39] <WanderingEnder> BarkingFish, heh.
[13:39] <warlock_handler> is there an tool I could use to convert voice to action.... something like espeak.. but voice to command... like say terminal.. and the terminal pops up
[13:40] <WanderingEnder> dacs129, do you know what ssh is?
[13:41] <dacs129> @WanderingEnder thx, i googled it. it's something with remote administrattion right?
[13:42] <milanoa> hi wanderingender
[13:42] <WanderingEnder> dacs129, I have no idea, I use the proper OS for administration of ESXi as dictated by VMware.
[13:42] <BluesKaj> !ssh
[13:44] <WanderingEnder> xchat is trying to kill my computer. :|
[13:44] <dacs129> ok, so why do i have to this then??
[13:45] <NoPinky> dacs129, if I understand your pastie, it should give you access to a remote PC via ssh
[13:46] <WanderingEnder> dacs129, you don't. And yes, it'll give you remote access to whatever that IP is.
[13:46] <airtonix> warlock_handler: yes there is
[13:46] <NoPinky> dacs129, I think it is savem but if you have never use the shell, then you won't be able to do much with it, what ever it offer
[13:46] <WanderingEnder> Its not even a script, its just a little calling card with instructions on where to ssh to for a "CHristmas present"
[13:47] <airtonix> warlock_handler: it's commonly known as "voice control" or "speech recognition"
[13:47] <Cradam> ssh is your friend
[13:47] <NoPinky> I think I'll try it out :D
[13:47] <warlock_handler> airtonix, ya like?? i just found "vedics" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499230
[13:47] <pangolin> How do I run googleearth-package? it is installed but I can't seem to figure out how to run it.
[13:47] <warlock_handler> airtonix, of course dude..
[13:48] <airtonix> warlock_handler: "dude", i just googled "ubuntu voice control"
[13:48] <llutz_> dacs129: depending on your local law, logging into a system not yours without permission of the owner might be a crime
[13:48] <warlock_handler> airtonix, ohh awesome.. and I searched buntuforums.com :P and gave u an application instead of 2 generic words :P
[13:48] <almoxarife> WanderingEnder: dacs129 is trolling, the link he posted is to his own ip and he forgot its in his ident I assume
[13:49] <dacs129> but this si the trouble... im on the machine but no one else is..
[13:49] <NoPinky> yes, I noticed too, it's his computer
[13:49] <WanderingEnder> almoxarife, I see.
[13:50] <NoPinky> DUTCH AIRFORCE CONTROL MACHINE it says
[13:50] <NoPinky> LOOOOL
[13:50] <llutz_> dacs129: well done, +troll+
[13:50] <Myrtti> moving on
[13:50] <WanderingEnder> Moving on.
[13:51] <almoxarife> pangolin: tried the command from terminal 'googleearth'?
[13:51] <pangolin> almoxarife: I did and command not found
[13:52] <almoxarife> pangolin: look in /opt/google/ pretty sure its there
[13:52] <airtonix> warlock_handler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCSgkUnlGGA
[13:53] <pangolin> almoxarife: I only have a chrome folder in there
[13:53] <private_meta> I've set my locale to german to get start of weekday = monday. Now, I did that to have monday as start day in a JSP/Richfaces Website, but apparently, it still has Sunday as a starting day of the week. Anyone got an idea how to fix that?
[13:54] <almoxarife> pangolin: look for the .desktop file in /user/share/applications , if not there its not installed
[13:55] <riderplus> hi. anyone ascii drawing?
[13:55] <llutz_> private_meta: don't you have to set servers locale correctly, not the clients?
[13:57] <WanderingEnder> !topic | riderplus
[13:58] <private_meta> llutz_: I'm talking about the servers locale
[14:00] <llutz_> private_meta: sry "set my locale" sounded different to me
[14:01] <Sidewinder1> airtonix, I know he's gone but, I believe there used to be and maybe still is, a voice to text program called "sphinx-something-or other". Just FYI.. :-)
[14:02] <private_meta> llutz_: development server, so it's local, this "my"
[14:02] <airtonix> Sidewinder1: pocketsphinx
[14:02] <private_meta> *thus
[14:03] <Sidewinder1> airtonix, Yea! That's it. I tried it once and couldn't get it configured properly..
[14:09] <Hotkeys> I have a smbmount to a share drive at my work place. I use google earth with a network link. The network link ONLY works when running google earth with sudo. I also have the same problem with libre office, I cannot save to our share drive without running the program as root. I don't want to run my programs as root. But I still need to be able to save to our share drive with libre office and google earth.
[14:10] <primoz> pejte se solit! ;)
[14:10] <johny2222> hi all
[14:10] <primoz> buuu
[14:12] <primoz> pdklsflsjflxjflvjxlkjvclxjvxjkvxljvlxjvjx
[14:12] <primoz> dslkfnsdv
[14:12] <primoz> f
[14:12] <primoz> f
[14:12] <primoz> f
[14:12] <primoz> f
[14:12] <FloodBot1> primoz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:12] <dj_segfault> Wow.  I just looked into buying the domain name linu.xxx domain name, but they're charging $99/yr for .xxx domain names.  Not worth that much for a joke.
[14:13] <soreau> dj_segfault: its not worth it to share that here either, since it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[14:14] <soreau> ! samba | Hotkeys
[14:14] <dj_segfault> Fair enough.  sorry
[14:15] <pangolin> almoxarife: I figured out my problem, I forgot to build it :/
[14:15] <pangolin> almoxarife: thanks for the help though :)
[14:21] <koichirose> Hi, I'm using Gnome3 Classic on Ubuntu 11.10. The 'gnome-open' command now opens the containing folder instead of directly opening the file. What do I need to do to fix it?
[14:22] <jrib> koichirose: does xdg-open behave similarly?
[14:23] <deej1976>  koichirose: If you right click on the folder and select properties then "Open With" what application is selected?
[14:23] <koichirose> jrib, yes, it opens the containing folder
[14:23] <koichirose> deej1976, for example I use Geany for txt files.
[14:23] <koichirose> deej1976, if I double click txt files from Nautilus it opens Geany correctly
[14:24] <ScroogeMcDuckets> Hey, I'm using ubuntu 10.04 thru wubi on windows xp...I can no longer boot into Ubuntu. How can I fix this?
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> !details| ScroogeMcDuckets
[14:26] <ScroogeMcDuckets> I have a problem with booting into Ubuntu, Iam running Ubuntu 10.04. When I try to boot into Ubuntu its saying I'm I have a corrupted hal.dll.
[14:26] <ThSenior> which is the best way to make free space on ubuntu? deleting temporaty or any old data?
[14:27] <troll> why have you guys started with unity? i realy liked ubuntu before unity -.-
[14:27] <iceroot> Guest26486: #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:27] <iceroot> ThSenior: sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean
[14:27] <ThSenior> troll install kubuntu desktop
[14:27] <ThSenior> iceroot what it exactlly does?
[14:28] <iceroot> ThSenior: removing packages which are no longer needed (autoremove) and also cleaning the cache of downloaded packages (clean) see also "man apt-get"
[14:29] <janolap1> My ubuntu server 8.04 LTS has ubuntu-desktop installed on it. How can I exit the desktop, just to have command line ?
[14:30] <iceroot> janolap1: ctrl + alt +f1  but then the x-server is still running
I have a problem with booting into Ubuntu, Iam running Ubuntu 10.04. When I try to boot into Ubuntu its saying I'm I have a corrupted hal.dll.
[14:30] <iceroot> janolap1: if you want to stop the x-server use "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[14:30] <janolap1> iceroot : thanx ! I'll ty it !
[14:30] <iceroot> ScroogeMcDuckets: dll?
[14:31] <iceroot> ScroogeMcDuckets: are you using wubi?
Yes and yes
[14:31] <iceroot> ScroogeMcDuckets: hm sorry i never used wubi but its an important info that the error is coming from wubi
 I'm running a dual-boot with windows xp, at the main boot screen where I choose which os to use (xp or Ubunu) when I choose Ubuntu, it saying it cannot start because of a corrupt hal.dll.
[14:33] <xxiao> will ubuntu boot with a vanilla kernel inside virtual box?
[14:33] <xxiao> i mean, i don't need many drivers, just harddrive, ethernet, mouse,keyboard
[14:34] <xxiao> need test some software
[14:34] <xxiao> with certain version of kernel,but i need patch the kernel
[14:34] <xangua> ScroogeMcDuckets: you can try a reall install, have you¿
[14:34] <xxiao> can i got a kernel without all those ubuntu stuff?
[14:34] <iceroot> xxiao: i dont see a reason why the vanilla-kernel should not work with vbox
[14:34] <xangua> xxiao: ubuntu stuff¿
[14:34] <xxiao> i.e. the way ubuntu builts kernel to deb
[14:34] <iceroot> xangua: ubuntu patches inside the vanilla-kernel
[14:34] <xxiao> s/builts/build/
 I would like to thats for sure. I just have alot of documents and such i would like to get off the current wubi install.
[14:35] <iceroot> xxiao: building a deb from vanilla kernel is no difference to a vanilla-kernel, only when the ubunt patches are applied there are differences
[14:36] <xxiao> ok i'll google for it...not sure how i update grub etc
[14:36] <xxiao> with the new vanilla kernel, i don't really need a initramfs
[14:36] <xxiao> for ubuntu, you have kernel, modules, initrd, 3 things i think
[14:36] <xxiao> still waiting for the vanilla kernel compile
[14:37] <Ibis> Is it possible for ubuntu in virtualbox to use advanced 3D features or is that a no?
[14:37] <Guest88600> hello! anyone else?
[14:38] <iceroot> Ibis: its possible
[14:38] <Ibis> Or any other popular virtual software?
[14:38] <Girffe> I'm trying to fix the mbr of my win7 partition using a ubuntu live CD, but mk-sys isn't a command in 11.04
[14:38] <iceroot> Ibis: you need the guest addons from vbox
[14:38] <Ibis> !anyone Guest88600
[14:38] <Girffe> I downloaded and compiled mk-sys from sourceforge, but I need a password in order to actually install it
[14:38] <xxiao> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild
[14:38] <xxiao> maybe that's what i need
[14:38] <Ibis> Guest88600: Ask your real question please. Of course we can't help if we do not know what you need help with excactly.
[14:39] <Girffe> and when I try to set a password in the terminal it doesn't let me type anything for the password itself
[14:39] <Girffe> anyone know how I can install mk-sys?
[14:39] <Ibis> iceroot: Im trying to understand all this guess stuff as possible, because when I buy my new computer, I don't want to be disappointed without knowing "What's true and what's not".
[14:40] <xangua> just type your password Girffe
[14:40] <Girffe> it's a live CD, though, I never set one
[14:40] <Ibis> iceroot: Guest stuff that is.        I'm trying to share GPU one way or another between virtual machines.       Or at least have all these fancy effects in 3 virtualmachines.
[14:40] <iceroot> Ibis: if you want more infos on the guest addons i would suggest to have a look at the manual from vbox
[14:41] <iceroot> Ibis: that is possible with vbox
[14:42] <caoxiaomin> hello everybody!
[14:43] <Girffe> The steps sourceforge gives in the readme file are:
[14:43] <Girffe> Step 3, become root and install  su (and give password) make install
[14:43] <Girffe> su (and give password)
[14:43] <Girffe> make install
[14:43] <deej1976> Girffe: try sudo make install
[14:43] <Girffe> it says make install
[14:43] <Girffe> I mean
[14:43] <Girffe> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[14:43] <RaTTuS|BIG> sudo make install is what you need to do
[14:43] <iceroot> Girffe: is there a reason why you want to compile something?
[14:44] <Girffe> I need to use mk-sys to fix the mbr for windows 7\
[14:44] <Girffe> but mk-sys isn't in 11.10
[14:44] <Girffe> so I need to compile it so I can use it
[14:44] <iceroot> Girffe: use your windows-cd to fix the mbr
[14:44] <Girffe> sadly I don't have a dvd drive
[14:44] <iceroot> Girffe: fix /mbr  should be the windows-command
[14:45] <Girffe> and I can't put it onto a usb because I only have the one that I'm running ubuntu off right now
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> iceroot  he ruined his pc and cannot boot windows anymore
[14:45] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: and i am talking about the windows-CD
[14:45] <Girffe> there shouldn't be anything permanently wrong, I just deleted ubuntu, the windows files are all intact
[14:46] <deej1976> iceroot: Believe Girffe is trying to follow this or something similar http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/15/how-to-fix-your-windows-mbr-with-an-ubuntu-livecd/
[14:46] <Girffe> yeah, that's the guide I used
[14:46] <Girffe> it's just that it's from 2008, when mk-sys was still in ubuntu
[14:46] <koichirose> Hi, I'm using Gnome3 Classic on Ubuntu 11.10. The 'gnome-open' command now opens the containing folder instead of directly opening the file. What do I need to do to fix it?
[14:46] <iceroot> Girffe: why not use the ubuntu-version from 2008? instead of fighting with make?
[14:47] <iceroot> Girffe: .... sudo apt-get install ms-sys
[14:47] <iceroot> Girffe: its called ms-sys not mksys
[14:47] <Girffe> tried that, but I can't install it onto the usb I'm already using because it's already being used for 11.10
[14:47] <Girffe> ....
[14:47] <Girffe> >______________________________________>
[14:47] <FloodBot1> Girffe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:48] <aspnet> re
[14:48] <Girffe> wait
[14:48] <Girffe> I was already using ms-sys
[14:48] <aspnet> есть кто нибудь?
[14:48] <iceroot> Girffe: you were talking about mK-sys
[14:48] <Girffe> oh wait, yeah, my bad
[14:48] <somsip> !ru | aspnet
[14:48] <RaTTuS|BIG> !ru | aspnet
[14:49] <Girffe> ok thanks a lot, that other line you posted worked
[14:50] <Girffe> later
[14:50] <samba23> how to update ubuntu 10.04 to latest 10.04  (i mean 10.04 then i guess it come with 10.04 ,mine is installed 10.04.2  now i read 10.04.3 is avilable )
[14:50] <iceroot> samba23: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:51] <samba23> ok
[14:51] <samba23> thanks
[14:51] <iceroot> samba23: when you install the normal security-updates you have automaticly 10.04.3
[14:51] <samba23> ok
[14:52] <samba23> which is best  hypervisor is avilable with 10.04
[14:52] <deej1976> koichirose: Have you seen: http://tinyurl.com/bsj44om
[14:52] <deej1976> koichirose: Have you seen: http://tinyurl.com/bsj44om
[14:53] <iceroot> samba23: i guess kvm is the most common but i am not sure if the kernel from 10.04 has all the kvm features, so have a look at xen and kvm
[14:53] <samba23> ok
[14:53] <iceroot> !info linux-image lucid
[14:54] <iceroot> samba23: hm 2.6.32 should be fine for kvm
[14:54] <samba23> ok
[14:54] <samba23> for home use which is good xen or kvm ?
[14:54] <iceroot> samba23: vbox
[14:55] <iceroot> samba23: kvm and xen are needing some skill and they are cli only
[14:55] <samba23> is it come with ubuntu 10.04
[14:55] <iceroot> samba23: if you just want to play with some vms use vbox
[14:55] <iceroot> !vbox | samba23
[14:55] <samba23> ok
[14:55] <iceroot> samba23: sudo apt-get install vbox  should do the job
[14:55] <ThSenior> iceroot thanks but nothing removed...
[14:55] <samba23> ok
[14:55] <theadmin> iceroot: "virtualbox", rather
[14:56] <samba23> thank you very much
[14:56] <iceroot> theadmin: isnt virtualbox the nonfree version and vbox the free one?
[14:56] <iceroot> !info vbox lucid
[14:56] <iceroot> !info virtualbox lucid
[14:56] <iceroot> !info virtualbox-ose lucid
[14:56] <theadmin> iceroot: Um, since version 4 there's no Nonfree anymore...
[14:56] <theadmin> Oh.
[14:56] <theadmin> Lucid, I see
[14:56] <iceroot> theadmin: we are talking about lucid :)
[14:57] <iceroot> samba23: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[14:57] <llutz_> iceroot: there former was virtualbox and -ose , its all virtualbox now
[14:57] <samba23> ok
[14:57] <iceroot> llutz_: hm ok, i thought one of them was called vbox
[14:57] <Matr|x> helllo
[14:58] <daviddoria> I am trying to connect to a windows share. I went to kmenu->Computer->Network and found Add Network Folder. I check "windows network drive" and clicked next. I entered the name, server, and folder, but I immediately get "unable to connect to server. please check your settings and try again." I was also provided a domain name to enter, but this dialog box did not prompt me for it. Any suggestions?
[14:58] <Matr|x> i need help installing two perl modules
[14:59] <koichirose> deej1976, yeah, but that's not really the same issue I'm experiencing.
[14:59] <Pici> Matr|x: Do you want us to guess which ones?
[14:59] <Matr|x> i need help installing to modules perl   Net::SSL , Crypt::SSLeay
[14:59] <Matr|x> hehehe
[14:59] <samba23> i am very sorry to ask this question  ,can u please tell me which are most comman commands i should learn
[14:59] <Matr|x> pici
[14:59] <LjL> !cli | samba23
[14:59] <Matr|x> i found it so hard to installing this modules
[14:59] <Matr|x> give me errors when i use cpan
[15:00] <Pici> Matr|x: Okay, just a moment.
[15:00] <llutz_> Matr|x: apt-get install libnet-ssleay-perl libcrypt-ssleay-perl
[15:00] <Matr|x> thx u let me try
[15:00] <Matr|x> onscn
[15:00] <Pici> llutz_: too fast for me today ;)
[15:01] <root_> startx
[15:01] <llutz_> Pici: sry won't happen again ;)
[15:01] <root_> djawab
[15:02] <llutz_> Matr|x: apt-cache search perl parts-of-missing-modulenames      will help in most cases
[15:05] <TransX2> How should i partition stuff in the Ubuntu install?
[15:05] <dmtarmey> hello does anyone know anythink about wifi, im having issues since iv updated my system, when i try connecting to the new i get connection but when i try using update softweare it says i have no intenet connection
[15:05] <TransX2> Bootloader on dev/sda?
[15:06] <LjL> dmtarmey: have you used Network Manager to connect to it?
[15:07] <dmtarmey> im using network connections that come with ubuntu
[15:08] <atarinox> Can anyone tell me what my SD card would be mounted as in Ubuntu? and how I can find it in terminal?
[15:08] <atarinox> under /dev/?
[15:08] <deej1976> atarinox: df -lh
[15:08] <atarinox> awesome, thank you
[15:09] <alp82> hey
[15:09] <alp82> i am looking for a video editing software
[15:09] <alp82> which is able to add simple effects
[15:09] <alp82> like blending in a title
[15:09] <alp82> or a flashing rectangle
[15:09] <deej1976> !info pitivi | alp82
[15:09] <alp82> deej1976:  thanks
[15:11] <Matr|x> i still have the same problem Can't locate Crypt/SSLeay.pm
[15:11] <Matr|x> :(
[15:11] <janolap1> where is written the server name ? (as shown in the prompt)
[15:12] <deej1976> janolap1: /etc/hostname
[15:12] <janolap1> deej1976 : thanx
[15:12] <Timmy_L> Ohai guise. Anyone here know how to use wpasupplicant to access a WPA2 protected wireless network from CLI? I'm trying to do this on a HP Mini 210-2200eo, Broadcom 4727 (with bcmwl-kernel-source installed)
[15:12] <vg> my backligth buttons dont work , help please!
[15:12] <llutz_> Matr|x: libcrypt-ssleay-perl: /usr/lib/perl5/Crypt/SSLeay.pm
[15:13] <Matr|x> yes
[15:13] <Matr|x> wht is this
[15:15] <Matr|x> Llutz_
[15:15] <vg> some help ,please
[15:15] <Matr|x> sorry
[15:15] <Matr|x> i can't undrstand
[15:15] <Matr|x> ?
[15:15] <Timmy_L> Matr|x, it's a perl extension for using OpenSSL: http://search.cpan.org/~sampo/Net_SSLeay.pm-1.25/SSLeay.pm
[15:15] <alp82> deej1976:  i just realized that i already have pitivi installed. the screenshots on the web page have n effec library tab, but there is no such thing on my locally installed version (0.13.5)
[15:16] <llutz_> Matr|x: package "libcrypt-ssleay-perl" contains /usr/lib/perl5/Crypt/SSLeay.pm   so check if it is installed properly
[15:16] <deej1976> alp82: Sorry, don't use it.
[15:16] <Matr|x> how to chick it :$
[15:16] <alp82> deej1976:  ok, i'l try to update it
[15:17] <llutz_> Matr|x: check the pathes given in the error, is /usr/lib/perl5 listed?
[15:17] <Timmy_L> dpkg -l libcrypt-ssleay-perl
[15:17] <Matr|x> ok
[15:18] <Matr|x> i used to upgrade from 9.4 to  the lastes ubuntu
[15:19] <vg> i need help
[15:19] <vg> !!
[15:19] <compdoc> need cash? food? shelter?
[15:19] <haha> girls?
[15:19] <compdoc> heh
[15:19] <vg> ...
[15:20] <haha> ...
[15:20] <llutz_> Matr|x:i told you before to do: apt-get install libnet-ssleay-perl libcrypt-ssleay-perl        did you, did it gave any errors?
[15:20] <llutz_> sudo *
[15:20] <vg> imy brightness buttons dont work
[15:20] <vg> help please
[15:21] <deej1976> alp82: openshot openmovieeditor might help you
[15:21] <Matr|x> yes
[15:21] <Matr|x> i  installed that command
[15:21] <llutz_> Matr|x: ls -l /usr/lib/perl5/Crypt/SSLeay.pm
[15:21] <Matr|x> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12897 2007-09-17 22:48 /usr/lib/perl5/Crypt/SSLeay.pm
[15:22] <haha> vg  what's wrong with you?
[15:22] <kaan_>  Does chrome support pulseaudio or not? There are articles online saying that it was added recently but pavucontrol shows alsa.
[15:23] <llutz_> Matr|x: check the pathes given in the error, is /usr/lib/perl5 listed as seachpath?
[15:23] <Matr|x> how
[15:23] <llutz_> searchpath
[15:23] <Matr|x> yes
[15:23] <Matr|x> how to chick that
[15:23] <vg> haha: brightness buttons dont work
[15:23] <llutz_> Matr|x: aeh, read the error you got
[15:23] <deej1976> !details | vg:
[15:24] <Matr|x> Can't locate Crypt/SSLeay.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.13.11/i686-linux /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.13.11 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.13.11/i686-linux /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.13.11 .) at as.pl line 3.
[15:24] <Matr|x> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at as.pl line 3
[15:25] <vg> ubottu: brightness buttons dont work. Dont graduate the brightness. Im with Ubuntu 11.10. My laptop is an HP630
[15:25] <vg> haha: brightness buttons dont work. Dont graduate the brightness. Im with Ubuntu 11.10. My laptop is an HP630
[15:25] <llutz_> Matr|x: how did you install perl? its not system-default
[15:25] <Matr|x> i had ubuntu 9.4
[15:26] <llutz_> Matr|x: apt-cache policy perl |grep -i insta
[15:26] <Matr|x> and u updated it with update installtion for the lastes vr
[15:26] <Matr|x> Installed: 5.12.4-4
[15:29] <llutz_> Matr|x: export PERL5LIB="$PERL5LIB:/usr/lib/perl5"   and try again
[15:30] <Timmy_L> Don't wanna spam, but seeing as so many has left and joined (and I don't know if y'all usually read the backlog).. Anyone here know how to use wpasupplicant to access a WPA2 protected wireless network from CLI? I'm trying to do this on a HP Mini 210-2200eo, Broadcom 4727 (with bcmwl-kernel-source installed)
[15:31] <muhammed> how clamav can be used to clean virus???
[15:31] <theadmin> Timmy_L: Easiest suggestion: install netcfg and use that, otherwise, well, you need to learn wpa_supplicant
[15:31] <dr_willis> muhammed:  use the clamav front end - and scan files same as you would in windows.
[15:31] <compdoc> muhammed, you want to scan your hard drive, or your emails?
[15:32] <Timmy_L> Thanks for the suggestion theadmin, I will look into it.
[15:32] <muhammed> compdoc:both
[15:32] <Stanley00> muhammed: clamav cant deinfect, it just can delete the infected file.
[15:33] <muhammed> dr_willis: i've installed clamav but it cannot be seen anywhere??
[15:33] <dr_willis> muhammed:  Unless you install a gui front end for it.. its a command line tool
[15:33] <theadmin> Timmy_L: Note that netcfg is not currently in Ubuntu's repos, you'll have to check out from git... It's an Arch thing, so: http://projects.archlinux.org/netcfg.git
[15:33] <theadmin> Timmy_L: Should work with other Linuxes just fine tho
[15:34] <Man_of_Wax> hi, I've updated my ubuntu server to 11.10 and now samba doesn't work anymore. The config file is the same but the others PCs on lans don't see the server.
[15:34] <Timmy_L> Haha, yeah, I found out via apt-cahce.. ^-^ Will give it a go though...
[15:34] <muhammed> stanley00:is there any tool that disinfect affected file??
[15:34] <llutz_> muhammed: rm
[15:35] <Stanley00> muhammed: they are just for window, AFAIK
[15:35] <dr_willis> i wouldent trust disinfected files :)
[15:35] <theadmin> Timmy_L: Look at the clone urls, clone one of those and install it, shouldn't be too different
[15:35] <dr_willis> muhammed:  you are scanning windows files for windows viruses?
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> !info clamav
[15:35] <muhammed> dr_willis: which is gui for clamav???
[15:36] <bil21al> dholbach:
[15:36] <llutz_> rm or mkfs are the best ways to get rid of infected files. you cannot trust any infected system and you cannot trust any snakeoil-app aka antivirus-prog
[15:36] <dr_willis> muhammed:  search for clamav in the package manager. it will show some
[15:36] <muhammed> dr_willis:virus affected all my php as well as html files only
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> muhammed  try clamtk
[15:36]  * dr_willis wonders what sort of virus 'infects' a non executable file...
[15:37] <Stanley00> muhammed: I think you should use one of your backup then
[15:38] <muhammed> stanley00:ya..but it put me in troble already
[15:38] <dr_willis> sounds to me like the whole linux system may be compramized
[15:38] <muhammed> i found a solution that no files in hidden folders are affected
[15:39] <muhammed> dr_willis : may be...
[15:41] <raidgh0st> Have intel released the usb3 source yet for linux?
[15:41] <muhammed> monkeyDust:thanx buddy
[15:42] <llutz_> Matr|x: export PERL5LIB=/usr/lib/perl5   and try again. did you?
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> raidgh0st  "Linux started supporting USB 3.0 in the September 2009 release of the 2.6.31 Linux kernel. "
[15:42] <muhammed> in which language linux kernel has made???
[15:43] <Stanley00> muhammed: mostly C, AIK
[15:43] <muhammed> AIK?
[15:43] <Stanley00> muhammed: as I know ;)
[15:44] <raidgh0st> MonkeyDust: weird then that knoppix didnt find the usb3 external drive
[15:44] <muhammed> stanley00: ooohhh... :)
[15:44] <raidgh0st> Had to change to usb2 cable to get it detected.
[15:45] <raidgh0st> Thinking of installing the ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64+mac.iso  (trying to figure out what the "mac" in the name is for
[15:45] <deej1976> muhammed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel#Programming_languages
[15:47] <dbristow> Anybody else seeing this MD5SUM/SHAxSUM problem with 12.04's precise-preinstalled-desktop-armel+ac100.bootimg file?
[15:47] <muhammed> deej1976: thanx
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> dbristow  ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:47] <llutz_> dbristow: #ubuntu+1
[15:47] <Matr|x> export PERL5LIB="$PERL5LIB:/usr/lib/perl5
[15:47] <Matr|x> >
[15:47] <llutz_> Matr|x: export PERL5LIB=/usr/lib/perl5
[15:48] <mr_lou_> So, after installing Ubuntu 10.04 on a brand new PC, there's no internet. Doing an ifconfig shows only LO. There's no eth0. What do I do? I imagine I need some newer drivers from somewhere?
[15:48] <Matr|x> I GOT THIS WHEN I GIVE perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/perl5/auto/Crypt/SSLeay/SSLeay.so: undefined symbol: Perl_Gthr_key_ptr
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> mr_lou_  or enter the network settings manually
[15:49] <Braber01> I was just working on an Open Office Presentation when it froze up on me and now i can't open Open ofice presentation is there a way I can get it to open via a shell or anything like that?
[15:49] <mr_lou_> MonkeyDust: How? There's no eth0 available.
[15:49] <llutz_> Matr|x: somehow your perl didn't surviced the upgrade-process, sry can't help you with that
[15:49] <deej1976> mr_lou_ : lspci
[15:49] <deej1976> What chipset is the network card?
[15:50] <mr_lou_> deej1976: Ok, will try that.
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> mr_lou_  is eth0 not present or not detected by the system?
[15:51] <muhammed> can any1 tell me about any anti-virus which disinfect virus affected file???
[15:51] <mr_lou_> deej1976: There's an 04.00.0 Ethernet controller alright.......
[15:51] <Matr|x> SO HOW TI INSTALL PERL :(
[15:51] <deej1976>  mr_lou_ | can you pastebin the complete line
[15:51] <mr_lou_> MonkeyDust: When I do ifconfig, only LO is shown. No eth0 or eth1. Doing lspci does show an 04.00.0 ethernet controller though.
[15:51] <Braber01> how can I open up open office presentation from the command line?
[15:52] <escott> Matr|x, sudo apt-get install perl. should already be installed as part of the base system
[15:52] <mr_lou_> deej1976: Sorry no. Obviously I'm on another computer here. But will try to type it.
[15:52] <deej1976> Braber01: gnome-open filename
[15:52] <escott> Braber01, libreoffice filename, or you can use mimeopen filename
[15:52] <mr_lou_> deej1976: 04.00.0 Ethernet Controller: Atheros Communications Device 1083 (rev c0)
[15:52] <admin1> heloo
[15:53] <deej1976> !Atheros
[15:53] <makara> hi. Why wouldn't I set a static IP?
[15:54] <dr_willis> makara:  if your isp assigns you a dynamic one...
[15:54] <mr_lou_> deej1976: Hm, I'm pretty sure it's not a wifi card....?
[15:54] <makara> dr_willis: I have a router in between
[15:54] <deej1976> mr_lou_: lspci | grep -i network
[15:54] <makara> some other computers also on local LAN
[15:55] <mr_lou_> deej1976: Shows nothing
[15:55] <ThSenior> how to install locale charsets?
[15:55] <dr_willis> makara:  so why does it matter either way?
[15:55] <makara> for some reason the IP the router was assigning my PC wasn't a local address
[15:55] <dr_willis> makara:  my router lets me set up where specific mac addresses always get  the same lan ip.
[15:56] <deej1976> mr_lou_: lspci | grep -i ethernet ?
[15:56] <dr_willis> makara:  check your routers settings then. somthing is incorrect.. or you got some other weirdness going on.
[15:56] <mr_lou_> deej1976: Shows that one line I already pasted.
[15:56] <dr_willis> or you got some other dhcp server on the network
[15:56] <BluesKaj> makara, there are methods to set  static IPs behind a router , http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[15:56] <mr_lou_> deej1976: Only one netcard. Seems to me it's just too new for Ubuntu to know about it?
[15:57] <mr_lou_> deej1976: At least too new for Ubuntu 10.04 to know about it.
[15:57] <deej1976> mr_lou_: What motherboard ?
[15:57] <ska> I have an Asus EEE PC 4G netbook (old). I have to go into the BIOS to tell it to boot from USB. But if I do, it wont boot from the regular SSD drive with the installed version of Ubuntu. What can I do?
[15:57] <mr_lou_> deej1976: I have no idea. I just bought it. I can look I guess. Hang on.
[15:58] <suki> ubuntu
[15:58] <mr_lou_> deej1976: ASRock H61DE/S3
[15:58] <Stanley00> ska: did remove the USB do the trick?
[15:58] <gladosv2> hi, can't run wine (it did work in the past), it gives /usr/bin/wine: no such file, though it is clearly there when ls-ing
[15:59] <Braber01> okay I cannot open open office at all, after --impress has frozen 15 minutes ago >:(
[15:59] <dr_willis> gladosv2:  try running  '/usr/bin/wine' directly?
[15:59] <mr_lou_> deej1976: Ubuntu 11.10 has no problems with it.
[15:59] <gladosv2> dr_willis: doesn't work either
[15:59] <mr_lou_> deej1976: But I want 10.04
[15:59] <deej1976> mr_lou_: How about 11.04 ?
[16:00] <gladosv2> salomon@ubuntu:~/Downloads$ ls -l /usr/bin | grep wine
[16:00] <gladosv2> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root   root        9688 2011-09-16 06:49 wine
[16:00] <gladosv2> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root   root           4 2011-09-16 06:48 wine-auto -> wine
[16:00] <gladosv2> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root   root        1582 2011-09-16 06:48 wineboot
[16:00] <gladosv2> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root   root      108144 2011-09-16 06:49 winebuild
[16:00] <FloodBot1> gladosv2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:00] <gladosv2> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root   root        1582 2011-09-16 06:48 winecfg
[16:00] <gladosv2> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root   root        1582 2011-09-16 06:48 wineconsole
[16:00] <llutz_> gladosv2: "file /usr/bin/wine"
[16:00] <dr_willis> gladosv2:  could be its a currupted file.
[16:00] <mr_lou_> deej1976: Wouldn't install. Gave me some error about (initramfs) not being able to locate some live cd....something....   tried exitting twice, but that just resulted in kernel panic.
[16:00] <gladosv2> /usr/bin/wine: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped
[16:01] <makara> dr_willis, BluesKaj - thanks
[16:01] <gladosv2> dr_willis: I already tried removing and reinstalling wine (1.3), didn't work
[16:01] <ska> Stanley00: Nothing worked so far.
[16:01] <llutz_> gladosv2: uname -m
[16:02] <gladosv2> x86_64
[16:02] <gladosv2> 64-bit problem?
[16:02] <mr_lou_> deej1976: If there's a solution to that (initramfs) thingy, that'll do too. I just don't want 11.10 and its silly Unity.
[16:02] <llutz_> gladosv2: yes
[16:02] <Stanley00> ska: hmm, how did you set it boot from USB? change boot order or change the order of harddisk?
[16:03] <gladosv2> llutz_: how to fix?
[16:03] <Stanley00> ska: normaly, it will boot bext device if the before one does not exist
[16:03] <llutz_> gladosv2: not sure if installing ia32-libs-multiarch would help
[16:03] <Barbarian> evening gentlemen.
[16:04] <gladosv2> llutz_: isn't there a 64-bit package in the repos?
[16:04] <llutz_> gladosv2: idk, i don't use wine
[16:04] <dr_willis> >hic<
[16:04] <dr_willis> :)
[16:04] <Barbarian> Tbh, I'm a big fan of PlayOnLinux ontop of wine
[16:05] <Barbarian> makes it much more user friendly
[16:05] <llutz_> tbh who cares
[16:05] <Barbarian> llutz, fair point
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> Barbarian  wrong channel
[16:05] <muhammed> ska: press f2 or f12 at very beginning of system booting...it may show you menu to change boot order
[16:07] <llutz_> gladosv2: #winehq might give you more help
[16:07] <dr_willis> gladosv2:  so whats the exact error you get if you do /usr/bin/wine --help
[16:08] <gladosv2> bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory
[16:08] <mr_lou_> deej1976: lshw -C network shows an *-network UNCLAIMED entry.
[16:08] <Jordan_U> gladosv2: How did you install wine?
[16:09] <dr_willis> i wounder if some of the support libs it calls are messed up. or you got some other odd quirk going on
[16:09] <gladosv2> Jordan_U: aptitude
[16:09] <muhammed> jordan : type sudo apt-get install wine
[16:10] <Jordan_U> gladosv2: Simply "aptitude install wine"? Do you have any 3rd party repos? It sounds like you don't have the needed 32 bit libraries, but that shouldn't happen if you install wine from the default repositories.
[16:11] <gladosv2> aptitude, / wine, installed it there
[16:11] <gladosv2> now downloading the .deb from the winehq website
[16:11] <mr_lou_> deej1976: http://dewfall.dk/bolig/2011-12-07-170939.jpg
[16:11] <TransX2> Which nvidia accelerated graphics driver should i use? It lists a bunch.
[16:12] <Jordan_U> gladosv2: If not, then it might be a simple case of bash doing a hash lookup for wine rather than actually checking for the file if you tried to run it once in the shell you're currently using before it was actually installed. If that's the case then starting a new shell should solve the problem.
[16:13] <Shizuo> hello
[16:13] <gladosv2> jordan: by starting a new shell, do you mean just opening in a new tab in the terminal application?
[16:14] <Jordan_U> gladosv2: Yes.
[16:14] <muhammed> Shizuo: hello
[16:14] <gladosv2> probably not the case... now trying to reinstall it one more time, i'll see after that
[16:15] <dr_willis> or opening a new terminal window....
[16:15] <dr_willis> i thought bash had a 'rehash' the path command.. but i cant recall what it is.
[16:15] <clvx> Hello there, I'm trying to add turpial to the messaging menu. I edited the turpial.desktop to introduce turpial in the messagin menu, but everytime I click in the turpial messaging menu icon it will open a new instance of the program instead of redirecting me to the instance that was already open.
[16:16] <llutz_> gladosv2: dpkg -l ia32-libs*
[16:17] <gladosv2> tried apt-get install wine, then running wine in a new shell, didnt work
[16:17] <TransX2> I just installed Ubuntu and only my right speaker works, what's up with that?
[16:17] <clvx> where should I look for more info, I've read  the official  messaging menu document, but don't find a solution for this.
[16:17] <dr_willis> clvx:  its possible thers some 'turpial --someoptionhere' to  activate the allready running instance. check the progams docs or turpial --help   output perhaps.
[16:17] <dr_willis> or the app has a setting.
[16:17] <gladosv2> llutz_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/762866/
[16:18] <bsa161> hi
[16:19] <clvx> dr_willis, well turpial doesn't have an option for it .. however, when I run an instance the turpial messaging icon doesn't have the "triangle" which indicates that turpial is running.
[16:20] <clvx> dr_willis, this is my turpial.destop conf  http://pastebin.com/bRi06ni8
[16:21] <clvx> turpial.desktop*
[16:21] <dr_willis> hever heard of the app or used it  clvx  so i cant really suggest anythign else.
[16:21] <refractor> How do I restart a service?
[16:22] <refractor> like sudo service ushare restart - correct syntax?
[16:22] <refractor> I'm using LTS
[16:22] <dr_willis> if its a upstart controlled service. thats about how you do it..
[16:22] <dr_willis> sysv you do a little differntly
[16:22] <mrjack> hello everyone. Unlike the past 4 years, I'm gonna buy a new laptop with decent specs. So, 2 questions: Am I going for 64bit? (support issues etc.) and secondly, in terms of support also, should I select a DELL-NVidia or HP-AMD (both intel cpu)
[16:22] <dr_willis> $ sudo service ssh status
[16:23] <jpds> mrjack: 64-bit shouldn't have problems.
[16:23] <clvx> dr_willis, it's a twitter client.. I'll keep trying harder why it happens .. thanks anyway
[16:25] <deej1976> mr_lou_: This might be off use http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1806056
[16:26] <spyvrsspy> hi, anyone know off the top of tyheir heads how to change the timestamp for var/log/secure
[16:26] <ikonia> touch it
[16:28] <refractor> Thanks guy, ushare works great
[16:28] <refractor> my xbox finds it happy
[16:28] <mrjack> jpds: and should I think about which brand? Better support in linux etc.
[16:28] <dr_willis> 'touch filename'  - sets the date on the file to be now. :)
[16:28] <jpds> mrjack: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[16:30] <mrjack> jpds: thanks for that!
[16:35] <deej1976> --date=STRING var/log/secure
[16:35] <deej1976> spyvrsspy: touch --date=STRING var/log/secure
[16:35] <slugzzz> Hey all, quick question ... I installed 11.10 and have two monitors. Since I've installed the Nvidia drivers, I cannot find the second monitor in the 'displays' window... anyone know what to do?
[16:35] <deej1976> spyvrsspy: or touch -t STAMP var/log/secure
[16:36] <koichirose> Hi, I'm using Gnome3 Classic on Ubuntu 11.10. The 'gnome-open' command now opens the containing folder instead of directly opening the file. What do I need to do to fix it?
[16:36] <ThSenior> my lang isnt listed in locale -a
[16:36] <ThSenior> how can to install it?
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> koichirose  system info > default applications
[16:38] <searching> Can install PySlice or Perlotine in Pinta?
[16:39] <koichirose> MonkeyDust, then? I already set everything there. If I double click a file on Nautilus it opens the correct application, whatever the file is. Same file with gnome-open, opens the containing folder
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> koichirose  no further advice, maybe someone else can help
[16:42] <koichirose> ok
[16:42] <koichirose> thanks :)
[16:45] <mr_lou_> deej1976: Thanks a lot. It worked. Do I need to go through that process everytime I update kernel?
[16:45] <FiReSTaRT> Just wanted to leave the solution to my "windows not snapping to the top of the bottom panels in xfce 4.8" problem: In workspace properties, I set the lower margin to the total thickness of the 2 panels
[16:45] <yourstrly> ThSenior: don't you have gui desktop?
[16:45] <escott> koichirose, try mimeopen
[16:46] <deej1976>  mr_lou_: If it's like the binary nvidia drivers yes
[16:46] <mr_lou_> mkay...
[16:46] <mr_lou_> deej1976: Well... in any case. Gimme your paypal addy.
[16:46] <DEAD|VGA> nvidia drivers requiting compiler that matches version used to compile kernel -IRRITATING FAILURE
[16:46] <DEAD|VGA> being forced to compile a kernel just to install video drivers just sucks
[16:47] <m1d4s> whats the best way to debug a system when your handling OS hangs ? (Java is doing something wrong with my system )
[16:47] <tekkentux> hello I'm trying to use sata hotswap with intel 5 series 3400 chipset onboard sata controller and ubuntu lucid. When I attach a hard disk, I get errors and it takes some minutes to recognise the disk. When I remove a harddisk I also get errors: http://www.privatepaste.com/b20149be10
[16:47] <deej1976> DEAD|VGA: I usually drop to console and rerun the nvidia-installer and then restart gdm(11.04 here)
[16:48] <DEAD|VGA> you cant install the nvidia drivers if the kernel your using was compiled with an older version of gcc
[16:48] <Jordan_U> DEAD|VGA: Why aren't you using the "Additional Drivers" tool?
[16:48] <tekkentux> Is this critical? Might I loose data when removing hard disks?
[16:48] <mrpink57> tekkentux: I do not see you loosing any data, is your bios set up for acpi?  This will allow a hot swap feature which is usually reserved for esata.
[16:48] <mr_lou_> deej1976: Do you have a paypal address?
[16:49] <tekkentux> mrpink57: yes sata is set to AHCI mode in bios
[16:49] <gladosv2> is there a way to recursively run a command for all files in a folder?
[16:49] <freemason1977> could someone help me install a experimental closed beta driver / firmware in ubuntu
[16:49] <deej1976> mr_lou_: But I'm not after donations
[16:49] <mrpink57> tekkentux: what filesystem is being used on the drive?
[16:49] <llutz_> gladosv2: for file in* ;do something $file; done
[16:50] <freemason1977> im in need of someones confidence and ears/eyes
[16:50] <deej1976> mr_lou_: But thanks for the offer
[16:50] <tekkentux> mrpink57: ext3 on a truecrypt crypted partition
[16:51] <mr_lou_> deej1976: Well.... you're putting your time into it. You should get something. (And deej1876 trying to pose as you and giving me his paypal addy is pathetic)
[16:51] <tekkentux> but I always unmount the filesystem and the truecrypt mapping, before I remove the device
[16:51] <deej1976> koichirose: http://askubuntu.com/questions/35602/using-gnome-open-to-open-pdf-files
[16:52] <deej1876> lulz
[16:52] <tekkentux> mrpink57: so the problem seems to be somewhere on a lover level, sata hard disk kernel, etc
[16:52] <TransX2> Sometimes when i open things the window comes up but it's just white...
[16:53] <TransX2> Any ideas?
[16:53] <mrpink57> tekkentux: I've tried researching but I'm not getting much on any resolve.  Some said it could be an error between Nvidia drivers and AHCI.
[16:53] <koichirose> deej1976, thank you, removing exo-utils
[16:53] <tekkentux> mrpink57: I'm just wondering if this is normal, if it could cause data loss and how I could make it recognise the harddisk faster. Is the a general problem with hotswap or the drivers for the intel 3400 chipset?
[16:54] <mr_lou_> deej1976: Well thanks again anyhow. I'm off for now.
[16:54] <tekkentux> mrpink57: there is no nvidia hardware. Its an intel mainboard and chipset
[16:55] <deej1976> mr_lou_: No problem, have a good am/pm etc...
[16:56] <ghoti> I'm having a problem configuring a custom service into xinetd.  I've added a line to /etc/services, and created a file in /etc/xinetd.d/ with server/user/socket_type/wait lines, and xinetd runs, but doesn't bind to the port I've specified, when I restart it.  /var/log/syslog tells me it's "reading" configs from my file, and I don't see errors ... yet, there's no service.  What am I missing?
[16:56] <ghoti> Alternately, does someone have another recommended way to host a Flash crossdomain.xml file on a server that isn't already running an http server?
[16:56] <TransX2> So, do you guys not know?
[16:57] <Arney> Hello, I have an open book x86 masm test in half an hour and I need to print all main.asm files in subfolders of a folder.
[16:57] <escott> gladosv2, usually one uses find -exec for this
[16:57] <Arney> Anyideas on how I can batch print all text files in subfolders?
[16:57] <llutz_> Arney: find path/ -name main.asm |xargs lpr
[16:58] <Arney> cool thank you!
[16:58] <ghoti> TransX2: I just read the last half hour of channel logs, and I don't see your question.
[16:58] <ghoti> TransX2: oh, something about only one speaker working?
[16:58] <TransX2> That and Sometimes whenever i open something the window shows up all white
[16:59] <mneptok> tekkentux: have you checked the physical drives with a SMART monitoring tool?
[16:59] <nkdoodwal> sound problem in ubuntub11.10
[16:59] <Jordan_U> TransX2: Do you only see white windows when you have many windows open?
[16:59] <nkdoodwal> sound problem in ubuntu 11.10
[16:59] <Hanz|Groober> yipeeekayaaay
[17:00] <koichirose> deej1976, it worked :***
[17:00] <TransX2> I only have one other window open, chrome. Everything worked fine with lubuntu
[17:00] <tekkentux> added some hardware information: http://www.privatepaste.com/bfe1163048
[17:00] <Jordan_U> !details | nkdoodwal
[17:00] <gladosv2> how to loop through subfolders and apply an action only to files with a certain extension?
[17:01] <escott> gladosv2, find path -iname "*.ext" -exec ...
[17:01] <nkdoodwal> Jordan_U:  lenovo y510 4.1 speaker
[17:01] <Jordan_U> nkdoodwal: You still haven't actually stated what problem you're having. And please use complete sentences.
[17:01] <gladosv2> escott: like this? find ./* -iname "*.dtl" -exec rtf2xml $file
[17:01] <volodya> does anybody know whether "allow-hotplug usb0" inside /etc/network/interfaces is supposed to work on 11.10?
[17:02] <volodya> or what are alternative methods to configure usb0 network interface when it becomes available
[17:02] <nkdoodwal> dolby  surround sound is noot working in ubuntu 11.10
[17:02] <Arney> im getting unable to access Project errors from lpr, when doing  find path/ -name main.asm | xargs lpr
[17:02] <Arm0ur_> gladosv2: find./ -iname "*.dtl".....
[17:02] <Jordan_U> gladosv2: find /path/to/directory/ -iname '*.dtl' -ecec rtf2xml {} \;
[17:03] <Arney> There is a subfolder called "Projects 1".
[17:03] <escott> gladosv2, -exec rtf2xml {} \;
[17:03] <escott> gladosv2, the {} is the placeholder for the filename, and the \; tells it when the command is done
[17:03] <llutz_> Arney: find path/ -name main.asm -print0 |xargs -0 lpr
[17:03] <Neosano> I have to install libcupsys2 but there's no such package. what to do?
[17:03] <gladosv2> escott: thanks :D
[17:03] <liti> test test ..
[17:03] <gladosv2> and Arm0ur_ and Jordan_U aswell
[17:04] <TransX2> Jordan_u, I only have one other window open, chrome. Everything worked fine with lubuntu
[17:04] <nkdoodwal> Jordan_U: i have only default speakers working  not dolby surround woofer in ubuntu 11.10 which was working in previous version.
[17:04] <liti> problems with irssi themes ...
[17:05] <Jordan_U> TransX2: Do you have a particularly old graphics card (specifically one without much Video Memory)? You might solve your problem by switching from unity 3D to unity 2D (so that your window manager does not depend on your graphics card / driver's 3D capabilities).
[17:05] <gladosv2> how to escape filenames for an argument when in find?
[17:06] <gladosv2> I have filenames with spaces in them, and need to use the filename plus another extension as an argument for the output
[17:06] <nkdoodwal> ubottu:  ?
[17:06] <TransX2> Yeah,  it's older
[17:06] <Jordan_U> gladosv2: You don't need to escape anything, find will pass arguments directly to the command in question without word splitting.
[17:07] <TransX2> Would increasing the buffet size help?
[17:07] <gladosv2> I'm getting an error: filename is an argument in an option list
[17:07] <TransX2> *buffer
[17:07] <gladosv2> when using find ./ -iname '*.dtl' -exec rtf2xml {} --indent=1 -o='{}.xml' \;
[17:08] <nkdoodwal> i have only default speakers working  not dolby surround woofer in ubuntu 11.10 which was working in previous version. so how to make them work properly??
[17:09] <Jonii> hey, is it possible to disable my webcam?
[17:10] <Jonii> it constantly uses like 2W of power even though its not even active
[17:10] <theadmin> Jonii: udev rules probably.
[17:10] <nkdoodwal> hey could anybody solve my problem with speakers
[17:10] <Jordan_U> gladosv2: That will work, and note that the quotes around '{}.xml' are *not* needed, and will be removed by the shell before the argument is passed on to find. If you haven't already, you should look into and try to understand how the shell works and specifically that it is the shell, and not any command itself, which does subsititution of variables beginning with '$', word splitting, and similar.
[17:10] <Jonii> theadmin: how exactly?
[17:11] <gladosv2> Jordan_U: the problem is, the application gives an error...
[17:11] <gladosv2> well I'll table it for now, not really urgent
[17:11] <Jonii> it seems to be an usb device
[17:11] <gladosv2> another question: what is a good package to play around with web requests? need to implement an api and need to create requests, also post-requests, see headers, etc?
[17:11] <escott> gladosv2, with the find exec its a fork exec instead of a shell exec. try taking the quotes out
[17:12] <Neosano> I need libcupsys2 package, but there's no such package in 11.10, how can I solve it?
[17:12] <theadmin> Jonii: I can't give details without knowing a LOT more than just a webcam... The manufacturer, the model, etc, but just try to figure it out yourself, it's not  that hard, Just search for "udev rules" on the web with your Favourite search enGIne :P
[17:12] <gladosv2> escott: also errors without quotes
[17:12] <TransX2> Would gnome-shell use less gpu memory than unity on 11.10?
[17:12] <Jordan_U> gladosv2: One way to debug find commands is to prefix the command with "echo" to see roughly what is being run (becaue of aforementioned word splitting being done by the shell it can be confusing). So try running this and examine the output: find ./ -iname '*.dtl' -exec echo rtf2xml {} --indent=1 -o='{}.xml' \;
[17:12] <theadmin> TransX2: Unlikely. Try XFCE.
[17:13] <TransX2> Is xfce like what's on lubuntu?
[17:13] <Jordan_U> TransX2: Or, as I suggested before, you can switch to Unity 2D.
[17:13] <gladosv2> problem is with the spaces in filenames, that's why I tried the quoes...
[17:13] <TransX2> Yeah. Lol where at?
[17:13] <theadmin> TransX2: No, Xubuntu
[17:13] <Jonii> cnf9011
[17:14] <Jordan_U> TransX2: From the sessions dropdown on the login screen (after you've selected your username).
[17:14] <Jonii> theadmin: cnf9011. but i'll look myself
[17:14] <Jordan_U> gladosv2: Find -exec deals with spaces.
[17:14] <nkdoodwal> hey no one wants to help me???????????
[17:15] <gladosv2> Jordan_U: apparently it doesn't because when I try the eco and then execute the output command, it's with spaces
[17:15] <escott> gladosv2, no you are missing the point. the spaces don't matter because its in the same argv entry
[17:16] <Jordan_U> gladosv2: That's why I said that using echo can be confusing. You can't just expect to be able to run whatever you see outputted in a shell.
[17:16] <llutz_> for file in $(find path/ -iname "*.dtl"); do rtf2xml  "$file" --indent=1 -o="${file/dtl/xml} ;done
[17:16] <llutz_> gladosv2: ^^
[17:16] <escott> gladosv2, the problem with mv file name filename is that mv is handed 4 arguments [mv,file,name,filename] but with -exec mv {} filename it is passed [mv,file name, filename]
[17:17] <llutz_> "; done *
[17:17] <Jordan_U> llutz_: No, that will cause word splitting problems that didn't exist before. That is exactly the wrong thing to do.
[17:18] <llutz_> Jordan_U: if you quote it properly, nothing will be splitted
[17:18] <Jordan_U> gladosv2: Try asking in #bash, they tend to be good at explaining these types of things and know all the best practices to be sure you don't run into issues.
[17:18] <gladosv2> will try, thanks :)
[17:18] <Jonii> theadmin: it does not seem udev is the right tool, theres nothing about disabling or removing devices on the internet
[17:18] <gladosv2> llutz_: I'm afraid yours didn't work as well, gave exactly the same error
[17:19] <Jordan_U> llutz_: You did not quote things correctly, and I'm not sure how you would modify your command to be correct. I don't think it can sanely be done.
[17:19] <theadmin> Jonii: oh, on the internet, um, probably you'd need to check Flash's settings and such
[17:20] <Jordan_U> gladosv2: You're probably missing something simple in the syntax of rtf2xml and spaces in file names is just a red harring.
[17:20] <TransX2> It's different, it asks only for my password
[17:20] <llutz_> gladosv2: does" rtf2xml  --indent=1 -o=file.xml input.dtl" work, or has input.dtl to be 1st parameter?
[17:21] <Jonii> theadmin: i mean, no internet sites tell how to disable a device with udev
[17:21] <Jordan_U> llutz_: Do you understand why the command you gave will not work with files that have spaces in them?
[17:22] <theadmin> Jonii: Oh, well, there should be a way, udev is pretty much everything that deals with devices (well, there used to be HAL too but that's no longer in use)
[17:22] <TransX2> Found it, thanks
[17:22] <gladosv2> gosh, the file to read had to be the last... can't believe I actually made that mistkake, sorry guys!
[17:22] <Jonii> everything seems to be about making devices work
[17:23] <llutz_>  rtf2xml --indent=1 -o="{}.xml" -- "$file"
[17:23] <Jonii> which is the exact opposite of what i want, i dont want to hear of that device ever again
[17:23] <bj_penn> when i get an error mounting an nfs share (permission denied) where does the error show up, the comp that im trying to mount it on, or the comp that hosts the share? and which log is it? i tried syslog, messages, dmesg, theres nothing related to nfs.
[17:23] <Jordan_U> llutz_: By the time you're quoting "$file" it's too late, the word splitting has already happened (in your command).
[17:24] <Jonii> that camera doesnt work, but it uses like 20% of my battery time
[17:25] <gladosv2> it's working, thanks a lot guys!
[17:25] <Jordan_U> gladosv2: llutz_: This is a very good page about this subject: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/020
[17:28] <gladosv2> so another question, I need an app to debug web requests, well, make them myself; tried running fiddler under wine but it didn't work, so is there a good ubuntu app for that?
[17:31] <cdestroy> anyone know how to destroy a CD-R (burn over) in ubuntu 11.10?
[17:31] <CrusaderAD> gladosv2: Wireshark is good for that
[17:31] <gladosv2> CrusaderAD: but you can't submit requests yourself, can you?
[17:31] <CrusaderAD> if you're debugging network related requests
[17:32] <CrusaderAD> gladosv2: what kind of requests? http?
[17:32] <gladosv2> https to be precise
[17:32] <gladosv2> data would be in json format
[17:32] <Foulad> is there is way to take snapshort for full web page ? Print scrn wont cover the whole web page !!
[17:33] <CrusaderAD> hm, have you tried shift-ctrl-i in chrome? that has a console for debugging
[17:33] <cdestroy> anyone know how to destroy a CD-R (burn over) in ubuntu 11.10? will dd to sr0 work?
[17:33] <cdestroy> Foulad: Try to print, then print to *.pdf format
[17:33] <Foulad> i need it as photo to upload it on website
[17:33] <llutz_> cdestroy: wodim -blank=fast /dev/sr0
[17:33] <trism> Foulad: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/internet/firefox/create-screenshot-image-of-entire-web-page-in-firefox/
[17:33] <cdestroy> Foulad: Print to pdf then fit to screen then screenshot
[17:33] <mosx1> trying to download ubuntu server 64 bit - the filename i'm getting directed to is ubuntu-11.10-server-amd64.iso ??? I didn't specify amd ?
[17:34] <trism> Foulad: oops sorry, guess screengrab is gone
 <cdestroy> thank you both
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> Foulad  in Terminal, type sleep -10; import screenshot.png
[17:34] <trism> Foulad: one second
[17:34] <wh1zz0> Guys please I need help with this.. when i type a simple ls -al  command on my ubuntu 9 box I get this error :: -bash: /bin/ls: cannot execute binary file
[17:34] <wh1zz0> How can I solve this
[17:34] <theadmin> mosx1: If you're downloading the server edition you should already damn well know that "amd64" refers to ANY 64-bit architecture... You might want the destkop edition, actually.
[17:34] <wh1zz0> I've searched google but no resonable solution thus far
 take your time
[17:35] <zero-cool> Oii
[17:35] <zero-cool> Alguem sabe algo sobre Anonymous
[17:36] <zero-cool> Marcelo!
[17:36] <mosx1> anyone tell me why it's amd64 ?
[17:36] <mosx1> hehe theadmin: just read your response
[17:36] <llutz_> mosx1: because amd "invented" the 64bit extensions
[17:37] <mosx1> ok I'll take it as read that it will work on my intel chip
[17:37] <mosx1> thx
[17:37] <cdestroy> anyone know how to blank a CD-R with Ubuntu 11.10? Wodim fails with block error.  I would like to force write over entire CD-R.
[17:37] <llutz_> cdestroy: cd-rw, yo cannot blank cd-r
[17:38] <cdestroy> llutz_: I want to erase the CD, why can't I tell the laser to write over the CD-R?
[17:39] <llutz_> cdestroy: put it into the microwave if you want do destroy a cd-r. if you want to erase something from it, it has to be a -RW media
[17:39] <Sidewinder1> cdestroy, The "R" means Read;; the "W" meand Write; one can't write to a "read-only", CD. :-)
[17:39] <hanan_> hello
[17:39] <cdestroy> llutz_: this is linux, a user should be able to control the hardware
[17:39] <llutz_> cdestroy: you are trolling, bye
[17:40]  * Sidewinder1 Sighs...
[17:40] <Marcelito770> hi
[17:40] <Marcelito770> #CaritaMirc
[17:40] <cdestroy> Does anyone know a way to overwrite CD-Rs? Maybe sudo dd /dev/random /dev/sr0?
[17:40] <theadmin> mosx1: You do realize that the server edition has no graphical interface whatsoever, right?
[17:41] <hanan_> i have installed fedora in addition to my current ubuntu installation, but without replacing the Grub2 from ubuntu, i would like to know how i make ubuntu aware on the new OS and add it the the Grub menu ?
[17:41] <theadmin> cdestroy: You will only break em this way...
[17:41] <trism> Foulad: okay, this seems to work: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/pixlr-grabber/ then Tools/Pixlr Grabber/Grab entire page, save to desktop
[17:41] <mneptok> cdestroy: you have write-once, read-many media. not rewritable. "blanking" is the same as writing. it's impossible in any OS. so there's your question answered. please do not repeat it.
[17:41] <cdestroy> theadmin: I wish to destroy the data on them, correct
[17:41] <Jonii> anyone knows if its possible to disable an usb device with udev or something? the device in question is cnf9011 webcam
[17:41] <theadmin> cdestroy: I mean, they're not recordable anymore, they are designed in such a way. If you wish to destroy the data on a CD-R you may  as well destroy the CD-R itself
[17:42] <Sidewinder1> 12 GA. shot guns work great to destroy CD-Rs.. :D
 testing it
[17:43] <mosx1> can anyone suggest some sensible figures for installing server on a VM: I'm after RAM and hdd size. minimum and sensible would be appreciated.
[17:43] <Sidewinder1> Actually, any projectile weapon, will due.
[17:44] <Timmy_L> mosx1, what are you going to run on the server?
[17:44] <mneptok> Sidewinder1: reddit.com/r/guns is full of such stuff. this channel shouldn't be, mmkay?
[17:45] <Sidewinder1> mneptok, No problem..
[17:45] <theadmin> mneptok: We're discussing how to destroy a CD-R, apparently it's a support issue cdestroy raised xD
[17:45] <mosx1> Timmy_L: just a lamp setup for webserver
[17:45] <mneptok> mosx1: entirely depends on server usage.
[17:45] <mneptok> Sidewinder1: thankee sah.
[17:45] <mosx1> small site, low usage
[17:45] <Sidewinder1> mneptok, What theadmin said. :D
[17:45] <mneptok> mosx1: low DB usage?
[17:46] <mosx1> yes
[17:46] <mneptok> mosx1: do you need LAMP stack functionality? file services?
[17:46] <mosx1> yes to LAMP stack no file services needed
[17:47] <mneptok> mosx1: i'd be more liberal with RAM with a full LAMP stack than i would with thttpd and static pages.
[17:47] <mosx1> I just need ball park
[17:47] <adsss> \nick
[17:47] <mosx1> is 1Gb ram enaough with say 8Gb hdd ?
[17:47] <mneptok> mosx1: 10GB minimum disk and 750MB RAM should do very nicely.
[17:47] <mosx1> or will that struggle ?
[17:48] <mosx1> sweet, I will try that - I can always change the settings for the vm later on
[17:48] <mneptok> mosx1: 1GB RAM for a low-usage LAMP server, ssh and some SMTPD should be fine.
[17:49] <planedriver> hello. I recently upgrade to 11.10 and ever since I have been unable to get my sound to come from the headphones only. Under settings the option to switch to my headphone jack is no longer there. I'm using a Toshiba Satellite A135-S2386. Is this a known issue?
[17:49] <acrophobia> i'm trying to reset my forgotten password on ubuntu (in vmplayer). unfortunately the grub menu doesn't come up as it's set to hidden by default, so I can't boot in recovery mode. is there a way to force grub to boot into recovery mode when i don't get to see the menu?
[17:49] <mosx1> thx mneptok
[17:50] <mneptok> !linuxatemyram | mosx1
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> acrophobia  use a live cd and edit the grub menu on your HDD
[17:50] <Tech-1> lol
[17:50] <mneptok> bah.
[17:50] <wh1zz0> Guys please I need help with this.. when i type a simple ls -al command on my ubuntu 9 box I get this error :: -bash: /bin/ls: cannot execute binary file
[17:50] <mneptok> !ram | mosx1
[17:51] <mneptok> mosx1: people unfamiliar with Linux RAM allocation get freaked out. if you know, sorry to bother.
[17:53] <mneptok> wh1zz0: boot to a live session from CD/USB and have a look at your filesystem.
[17:53] <tomasm-> has anyone successfully used gwibber in ubuntu 11.10? the scrollbar seems to be broken, i cant scroll down the list of posts (for facebook)... it's there, just does not respond
[17:53] <acrophobia> MonkeyDust: yes, i did try that. i modified the /etc/defaults/grub file commenting out the "hidden" lines, but then you have to rebuild the /boot/.. file from that, and i couldn't as i was in the livecd environment rather than the real environment. so then i tried modifying the /boot/... file directly, but there was a big warning at the top saying not to. i would do it, except i'm not sure what
[17:53] <acrophobia> to change
 thank you , works great
[17:56] <wh1zz0> mneptok: What could be wrong?
[17:57] <mneptok> wh1zz0: corrupted filesystem. bad permissions. broken package.
[17:57] <wh1zz0> mneptok: I mean what could be wrong with the file system, what specifically would I be looking for in the trouble shooting process?
[17:58] <mneptok> wh1zz0: what format is the filesystem where /bin lives?
[17:58] <wh1zz0> mneptok: Im accessing my server from ssh ..
[17:58] <wh1zz0> mneptok: Not sure how to go about this
[18:00] <Exxon> hi, there all :)
[18:02] <VinZe_DiamoNd> Hi
[18:02] <VinZe_DiamoNd> Im VinZe
[18:02] <hansg01> drive formtted nw how to restore it
[18:03] <hansg01> mind drive formatted nt the volume
[18:04] <Exxon> hansg01, just hang on we'll have more to help now we are in split up
[18:04] <hansg01> Exxon: oh k
[18:06] <escott> hansg01, what is the question?
[18:06] <hansg01> escott: in disk utility i had formatted my pendrive
[18:07] <escott> hansg01, and now you want to format it to ntfs? or something
[18:07] <hansg01> escott: in disk utility there are two columns na i formatted the upper one
[18:07] <administrator> ?
[18:07] <Exxon> hansg01, oh! thank god, you did not format ntfs..the drive C: that i thought..
[18:08] <hansg01> Exxon: i think i did
[18:08] <hansg01> Exxon: i had done this earlier too bt had recovered using several commands frm terminal
[18:08] <mintux1> I would like to customize a ubuntu (using uck) but I got the problem . I got in log cd: /home/mrg/tmp/remaster-iso/dists: No such file or directory  and Unable to identify Ubuntu distro codename  what is dists?
[18:08] <hansg01> Exxon: bt can't find that blog nw from where i got the comand
[18:08] <TotalNoob> Hi all
[18:09] <Exxon> hansg01, if you were formating the pendrive show could you possible format drive c:
[18:09] <TotalNoob> Any wireless network driver gurus here?
[18:09] <Exxon> TotalNoob, !ask
[18:10] <TotalNoob> !ask
[18:10] <JerryNJ> can anyone assist me in updating the rdesktop on the client-side of ltsp on ubuntu 10.4
[18:10] <escott> hansg01, if all you did was change a partition table you can sometimes restore the old partition by either using fdisk and putting the old partition table back, or using testdisk to find and restore the old table. if you actually formatted then you have overwritten the filesystem with a new filesystem, and you would want to use something like photorec to search for files that can be recovered from the raw contents
[18:10] <JerryNJ> can anyone assist me in updating the rdesktop on the client-side of ltsp on ubuntu 10.4
[18:10] <hansg01> Exxon: in disk utility i formated the drive not the volume thats wht i knw wht i did
[18:11] <Exxon> hansg01, recover from the pen drive that fat system is not possible
[18:12] <hansg01> Exxon: i had done this earlier and had recovered frm it using several comand bt cudn't find that blog nw
[18:13] <TotalNoob> I have tried dozens of online tutorials and suggestions to get my wireless networking card installed with no luck, what can I do other than buying a new one that just works with linux?
[18:13] <Exxon> hansg01, for my knowledge fat cannot be retrived if format..if there is any blog of such kind please link me to it.
[18:14] <hansg01> Exxon: i formatted the drive and my drive wasn't accessible then i found a blog
[18:14] <hansg01> Exxon: bt can't find that blog nw :(
[18:15] <chifan> hello ppl..how fast do you think a wpa signal can be unlocked(hous, days)??
[18:15] <Exxon> hansg01, with the blog you drive was accessible ..?
[18:15] <Exxon> TotalNoob, lspci -v
[18:15] <hansg01> Exxon: yeah after performing the commands i was able to access my drive
[18:16] <Exxon> hansg01, do you remember the command
[18:16] <aradriel> cheers, is there a ubuntu equivalent for /etc/sysconfig/iptables (simply edit this file to black/whitelist adresses via iptables)?
[18:16] <escott> chifan, depends on a lot of things. wikipedia has a good overview of the issues http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Access
[18:17] <chifan> tnks
[18:17] <Exxon> !blacklist aradriel
[18:17] <hansg01> Exxon: i think it was fdisk
[18:17] <jorogan> hello doesany1 know if ubuntu is compatible with asus ncl-ds server board?
[18:18] <hansg01> Exxon: can't remember it completely mayb it's this http://www.dotkam.com/2008/07/10/restoreformat-usb-flash-drive/
[18:18] <jorogan> _iron
[18:19] <jorogan> ztane?
[18:19] <yourstrly> aradriel: man ufw
[18:19] <jorogan> wats ufw?
[18:20] <MonkeyDust> !info ufw
[18:20] <jorogan> is any1 on this channel
[18:20] <Exxon> !blacklist aradriel
[18:21] <oCean> Exxon: the blacklist factoid is for blacklisting modules, not ip addresses
[18:21] <jorogan> am i on the wrong channel?
[18:21] <jorogan> ???????????????????????????????????????????
[18:21] <Myrtti> !hcl | jorogan
[18:21] <Exxon> hansg01, post is old should work with you
[18:22] <jorogan> thanx u sir
[18:22] <TotalNoob> Exxon, that command did list my wireless adaptor
[18:22] <TotalNoob> I see it
[18:22] <Exxon> oCean, he said nothing about ip address
[18:22] <aradriel> mh yeah blacklist seems to blocking kernel modules
[18:22] <hansg01> Exxon: ok thanks!
[18:23] <Barsook> Am I allowed to ask a question about myPaint 1.0, the Ubuntu version here?
[18:23] <oCean> aradriel: I don't think UFW has a blacklist file like that, but have a look here, it's a little howto on "iplist"  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=530183
[18:23] <aradriel> i will check man ufw, maybe i can set this up painless
[18:23] <i2c> hey guys I think I have a problem. I have ubuntu on my desktop and laptop, and my laptop says there are updates available, but on my desktop it says all my software is updated. I think something is wrong with the sources my desktop is trying to get updates from.
[18:23] <aradriel> thanks for mention this
[18:23] <Exxon> TotalNoob, lspci -v please paste the output so that we can read what wireless you have ..thanks
[18:23] <bj_penn> how do i find what version of nfs client im using?
[18:23] <bj_penn> in centos i can just type yum --version nfs
[18:23] <TotalNoob> 03:01.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[18:23] <TotalNoob> 	Subsystem: Linksys WMP54GS v1.1 802.11g Wireless-G PCI Adapter with SpeedBooster
[18:23] <TotalNoob> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 64, IRQ 9
[18:23] <TotalNoob> 	Memory at febfa000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
[18:23] <TotalNoob> 	Kernel modules: ssb
[18:24] <FloodBot1> TotalNoob: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:24] <Exxon> !blacklist
[18:24] <oCean> bj_penn: apt-cache policy nfs-kernel-server
[18:25] <Exxon> !pastebin TotalNoob
[18:25] <TotalNoob> !pastebin
[18:26] <Exxon> TotalNoob, ??
[18:26] <TotalNoob> http://paste.ubuntu.com/762996/
[18:26] <oCean> Exxon: you should use  !factoid | nickname   or !factoid > nickname
[18:27] <manisabri> Question Is there any reason that my 11.04 automatically logins to unity 2D instead of 3D?
[18:27] <TotalNoob> want me to paste the entire contents of that command or just the part about the wireless adaptor?
[18:27] <Exxon> TotalNoob, modprobe BCM4318
[18:27] <Exxon> oCean, oh! come on
[18:28] <oCean> ?
[18:28] <i2c> hey guys I think I have a problem. I have ubuntu on my desktop and laptop, and my laptop says there are updates available, but on my desktop it says all my software is updated. I think something is wrong with the sources my desktop is trying to get updates from.
[18:28] <TotalNoob> FATAL: Module BCM4318 not found.
[18:28] <Barsook> Am I allowed to ask a question about myPaint 1.0, the Ubuntu version here?
[18:28] <bj_penn> oCean, doesnt tell me much. heres what it tells me: http://pastebin.com/E6q2cuhQ
[18:28] <Exxon> TotalNoob, use root access
[18:29] <Jim44491> hail !
[18:29] <Jim44491> i'm looking for update to date guide on how to compile a kernel for ubuntu
[18:29] <zaltekk> what's the difference in the standard ubuntu and the ubuntu server media?
[18:29] <oCean> bj_penn: it actually tells you current version is 1:1.2.2-4ubuntu5, or is that not your question?
[18:29] <Guest48182> http://paynize.com/ref.php?page=act/ref&invcod=9872
[18:29] <zaltekk> just the default installation options?
[18:29] <TotalNoob> Exxon, same response with sudo command
[18:29] <bj_penn> oCean, thats the version of my nfs client?
[18:29] <bj_penn> 1:1.2.2-4ubuntu5
[18:29] <bj_penn> ?
[18:29] <sskalnik> i2c, paste the result of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" from each machine
[18:29] <oCean> Guest48182: don't post that here
[18:30] <compdoc> zaltekk, server doesnt load a desktop - its all command line
[18:30] <extor> I keep running into problems where none of the programs in my gnome session are visible UNLESS I right click on the proggy icon in the app taskbar at the bottom and select "Always on top" and then I can see the window. If I reboot the problem is fixed. My question is, can this be fixed without rebooting?
[18:30] <zaltekk> compdoc: so i could realisticly just use the server media if I only plan to use i3?
[18:30] <Exxon> TotalNoob, simply use the mouse select it and press ctrl c and paste the output
[18:30] <compdoc> i3? dont know what that is
[18:30] <zaltekk> i was assuming it was only going to affect the initial packages
[18:30] <i2c> sskalnik http://pastebin.com/Cqy9iiE8
[18:30] <zaltekk> compdoc: tiling wm
[18:30] <Guest48182> http://paynize.com/ref.php?page=act/ref&invcod=9872
[18:31] <oCean> bj_penn: it's the version of the package nfs-kernel-server
[18:31] <TotalNoob> me@ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe BCM4318
[18:31] <TotalNoob> FATAL: Module BCM4318 not found.
[18:31] <bj_penn> oCean, whats the difference between that and nfs client?
[18:31] <compdoc> zaltekk, its worth a shot. I always use desktops
[18:31] <mintux1> how to find out Ubuntu distro codename in uck I got this error : /home/mrg/tmp/customization-scripts/customize_iso: line 80: cd: /home/mrg/tmp/remaster-iso/dists: No such file or directory
[18:31] <mintux1> Unable to identify Ubuntu distro codename
[18:31] <sskalnik> i2c, Paste the second one as well?
[18:31] <zaltekk> compdoc: i usually prefer a very minimal setup
[18:31] <Exxon> Jim44491, what version are you trying to compile and recently you are running
[18:32] <compdoc> then server would be it
[18:32] <bj_penn> oCean, a few things tell me thats not the version of nfs clients, because all my other servers run at least 3.2.8 or something similar, and from all the googling i did, nfs clients v2, 3, 4 are the most prevelant. since this is relatively a new server, i dont see how it would be 1.2.2-4ubuntu5.1
[18:32] <bj_penn> thats a really weird version number
[18:32] <zaltekk> compdoc: and i'm on dual 10gbit fiber so downloading packages won't really matter.
[18:32] <Jim44491> Exxon i have 2.6 and i want to try 3.x
[18:32] <Jim44491> on ubuntu 11.04
[18:32] <i2c> sskalnik, what do you mean second one?
[18:33] <sskalnik> i2c, The issue is that your laptop and desktop disagree about whether there are updates, correct? If so, paste the contents of the sources.list from each one.
[18:33] <Exxon> Jim44491, may be you should know more about compiling..
[18:33] <i2c> oh crap, I'm sorry. yeah let me compare the two
[18:33] <Jim44491> Exxon yeah if you let me
[18:33] <sskalnik> i2c, No prob!
[18:33] <oCean> bj_penn: sorry, was a bit busy. But I understand now, you're looking for the protocol version
[18:33] <Jim44491> i compiled a router firmware before with linux and busybox on it
[18:33] <zaltekk> i2c: you likely have a mirror that isn't replicating as quickly being used on the system that doesn't think there are updates available
[18:33] <Jim44491> so if you have something that i can read
[18:33] <DemonWitch> I got a problem. I cant spoof my mac address for this wifi adapter: Intel 4965 AGN cause mac spoofing is blocked according to intel's site: (http://www.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/sb/CS-031081.htm). Is this firmware related? Can i use some opensource firmware or downgrade or bypass this somehow from the OS?
[18:34] <Exxon> mintux1, link is not valid
[18:34] <bj_penn> oCean, the whole underlying reason for all this is because i want to figure out why centos 5.2 won't mount on this ubuntu share
[18:34] <sskalnik> i2c, There might be a slight difference between the sources.list; compare side by side and see if one has extra repos
[18:34] <oCean> bj_penn: Hmm... It might be in the output of nfsstat (just run that as a command, it will show statistics for either the v2 or v3 protocol)
[18:35] <i2c> sskalnik here is the second one, I'm going to comb through it as well http://pastebin.com/jTjm3qhh
[18:35] <oCean> bj_penn: ubuntu is a recent version? I suspect both to be nfs v3
[18:35] <sskalnik> i2c, Aha! First one is Natty, second is Ocelot
[18:36] <sskalnik> i2c, One machine is running 11.04, the other 11.10. Ergo, different updates.
[18:37] <Exxon> DemonWitch, simply r-click you connection and you will get all the details
[18:37] <bj_penn> oCean, its 11.04
[18:38] <i2c> I don't think so, I updated this one to 11.10, so they should be be on 11.10
[18:38] <oCean> bj_penn: you're trying to execute mount on centos? Ubuntu being the nfs server?
[18:38] <sskalnik> i2c, run "cat /etc/lsb-release" on both machines
[18:38] <zaltekk> ah
[18:38] <i2c> they're both 11.10
[18:38] <zaltekk> compdoc: i found the kernel config differences
[18:38] <bj_penn> oCean, yeah
[18:38] <owner> #ubuntuusers
[18:39] <Exxon> Jim44491, i will never tell you that or even give you a pointer sorry you are on you own..sorry
[18:39] <zaltekk> different scheduler, preemption is disabled, kernel tick freq change
[18:39] <bj_penn> oCean, i filtered the causes somewhat, it cant be the version of the OS because i was able to run mount on other centos 5.2 servers
[18:39] <i2c> I'm going to try making a backup of my desktop sources.list, and then copying int eh laptop one, seeing if that works
[18:39] <bj_penn> oCean, and since i can run mount on other servers without problems, it should filter out the server being the cause as well
[18:39] <oCean> bj_penn: any error messages on the centos server (when trying to mount)
[18:40] <Thetawaves> why does ubuntu search for .Trash upon entry to root of a new partition and how can i disable this?
[18:40] <Prashles> Hey guys, I'm getting permission denied error on Wubi install
[18:40] <sskalnik> i2c, Check the bottom of the one that was upgraded; looks like it has additional sources
[18:40] <DemonWitch> Exxon, fail answer
[18:40] <DemonWitch> reread
[18:41] <i2c> right, I updated my desktop from 11.04 to 11.10, I installed 11.10 right onto my laptop. On my desktop I added those lines earlier to see if they'd do anything
[18:41] <sipior> Jim44491: might be useful, if you haven't yet seen it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[18:41] <i2c> So I just swapped sources.list files and nothing happened, I still have no updates to get.
[18:41] <bj_penn> oCean, the error message is "permission denied"
[18:41] <ashmew2> Using natty and an android phone which has a micro SD Card , plugged it into the adapter , plugged it into the Dell XPS Laptop in front of me running Natty, nothing happens...Any help ?
[18:41] <sskalnik> i2c, The laptop says there are updates but the desktop does not?
[18:42] <Prashles>  Hey guys, I'm getting permission denied error on Wubi install Any help?
[18:42] <Exxon> DemonWitch, sorry high up in clouds please repeat
[18:42] <oCean> bj_penn: anything useful when doing  grep -i nfs /var/log/syslog   on the nfs server?
[18:43] <oCean> (might also show the nfs version actually)
[18:44] <i2c> sskalnik yes, the desktop has not had updates since I did the 11.10 upgrade a couple of days ago. I tried doing update manager yesterday, but it complained saying it couldn't download all of the sources or something, because one of them was like cdrom//:something so that is what started this mystery. I opened software sources and unchecked the cdrom and then tried software update again and it found no new updates. I mean I guess it's possible I ha
[18:44] <i2c> ve no new updates but it's been that way for a couple of days and I know usually ubuntu has given me updates at least once every couple of days
[18:44] <DemonWitch> Exxon, I got a problem. I cant spoof my mac address for this wifi adapter: Intel 4965 AGN cause mac spoofing is blocked according to intel's site: (http://www.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/sb/CS-031081.htm). Is this firmware related? Can i use some opensource firmware or downgrade or bypass this somehow from the OS?
[18:45] <Exxon> sipior, those days are gone when users have to compile for them selves ; he did give a valid purpose for it.
[18:45] <sskalnik> i2c, I would copy all the sources from the 11.10 machine to the upgraded 11.04>11.10 machine
[18:45] <sipior> Exxon: i'm not interested in your opinion.
[18:45] <i2c> also, I just tried combining the two source.list files, and tried doing sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and it found nothing
[18:45] <Exxon> sipior, so does he
[18:46] <sipior> Exxon: go away.
[18:46] <Exxon> sipior, cool ..:)
[18:46] <BjornWarmedal> I've just been given access to an ubuntu server (through ssh only, no access to hardware) and I'd like to get to know the system
[18:46] <oCean> sipior: hey, tone that sort of comment down please
[18:46] <sskalnik> BjornWarmedal, are you new to Linux/UNIX-likes or just Ubuntu server?
[18:47] <Exxon> DemonWitch, lspci -v please paste the output to pastebin.com
[18:47] <sipior> oCean: if you want to defend the sort of "high priest" mentality that users need to justify themselves before we grant them help compiling a kernel, you're welcome to it. leave me out of it.
[18:47] <BjornWarmedal> sskalnik: I'm used to working in the *nix environment, but I've never seen it from a sysadmin perspective
[18:47] <sipior> oCean: you might want to reread the ubuntu CoC while you're at it.
[18:47] <bj_penn> oCean, absolutely nothing from that command grep -i nfs /var/log/syslog
[18:47] <oCean> sipior: don't worry about others. I'm telling you to stop that sort of comment here. It's not welcome
[18:48] <sipior> oCean: i guess you'll live.
[18:48] <BjornWarmedal> sskalnik: although I work with the command line everyday, so I get around
[18:48] <BjornWarmedal> but what's the best way to get to know a new system, processes and configurations?
[18:49] <sskalnik> BjornWarmedal, well, dropping in here is a good start. ;)
[18:49] <sskalnik> !server
[18:49] <oCean> bj_penn: That's weird, I expect at least some entries there. What does /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server status say?
[18:50] <BjornWarmedal> sskalnik: I thought as much ;)
[18:50] <i2c> sskalnik, I think I'm just going to reinstall 11.10 onto my desktop, a fresh start would do me well I guess. thanks for your help
[18:51] <sskalnik> i2c, alrighty. I do recommend fresh installs when it's feasible, so that is probably a good idea.
[18:51] <i2c> thanks
[18:52] <sskalnik> BjornWarmedal, The server guide is probably a good place to start
[18:55] <bj_penn> ocean: nfsd running
[18:56] <Thetawaves> on linux, what program checks for .Trash and autorun.inf upon mounting a new device?
[18:56] <Exxon> sskalnik, read, re-join other session may be some could help..
[18:56] <BjornWarmedal> sskalnik: thanks!
[18:58] <nbf> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/ledit/ledit_2.02.1-2build1_all.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[18:58] <nbf> anyone know what up with that?
[18:58] <theadmin> Thetawaves: Gnome does the trash, but autorun? I don't think Linux does that at all
[18:58] <nbf> haven't tried a different mirror
[18:58] <theadmin> nbf: Try: sudo apt-get clean
[18:59] <theadmin> nbf: After that, redownload, if not working, try a different mirror
[18:59] <Thetawaves> theadmin, i'm sure gvfs is the culprit
[18:59] <theadmin> Thetawaves: gvfs is no longer in use in gnome3, I have no idea what's the name for it now
[18:59] <nbf> does clean just clear /var/cache/apt/archives?
[18:59] <Thetawaves> eh?
[18:59] <theadmin> nbf: I suppose so... not so sure. Best not to rm -r that folder manually
[18:59] <Thetawaves> i've got tons of gvfs stuff running
[19:00] <theadmin> Thetawaves: Oh okay, which ubuntu version are you on then?
[19:00] <Thetawaves> 11.10
[19:00] <theadmin> Thetawaves: Oh... huh.
[19:00] <theadmin> Thetawaves: Guess I was wrong
[19:00] <Thetawaves> updated from 11.4 of course
[19:01] <Thetawaves> i can't find a service gvfs in /etc/init.d
[19:01] <Thetawaves> how do i kill gvfsd?
[19:02] <Exxon> nbf, use ftp  but i am not sure
[19:03] <kanoutas> hello everybody
[19:03] <kanoutas> anyone available
[19:03] <kanoutas> ?
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> Thetawaves  gvsd is located in /usr/lib/gvfs/
[19:04] <nbf> Exxon: ????
[19:04] <sipior> kanoutas: generally easiest if you just state your question directly.
[19:05] <Exxon> nbf, don't try https instead use ftp you isp is involved
[19:05] <sipior> kanoutas: there should be no shortage of people available, at any rate :-)
[19:05] <sturd> I came on here asking about my Ubuntu installer crashing just after the vmlinuz load sometime last week.  I have since tried to boot up the LinuxMint LXDE and Fedora 16 installers but they crash/freeze/whatever at the same point.  I've already got Windows7 (x64) and Ubuntu 11.04 (x64) installed on my machine.  But these installers won't boot now
[19:05] <kanoutas> Which tool should I use to COMPLETELy format the 2 hard drives i've got and then install ubuntu again?
[19:06] <sipior> kanoutas: the installer can do that for you
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> kanoutas  you can make the installer format the drive
[19:06] <bastidrazor> kanoutas: the installer can do that for you. check format when partitioning
[19:06] <theadmin> kanoutas: Um, just wipe the partition table on all of them, and yes, you can do that from the installer
[19:07] <Exxon> kanoutas, ckdisk
[19:07] <bastidrazor> installer, FTW
[19:07] <Exxon> kanoutas, sorry cfdisk
[19:07] <oCean> bj_penn: still trying? What does  exportfs  show (on the server) ?
[19:08] <nbf> looks like that package is corrupt on the us mirror, works fine from uk
[19:08] <kanoutas> after format should i install ubuntu or windows 7 first? Because I need them both.
[19:08] <theadmin> Exxon: for drive in /dev/sd* ; do fdisk $drive <<< "o" ; done # Wipes partitions on all drives. Easier than cfdisk :P
[19:09] <iceroot> kanoutas: first windows
[19:09] <iceroot> kanoutas: both options are possible but installing windows first makes it easier
[19:09] <Exxon> :)
[19:09] <kanoutas> ok thank you all!
[19:16] <wikander> klk
[19:17] <strange> anyone know a fancy terminal command to delete all files less than 2mb in a folder?
[19:17] <wikander> hfdhgh
[19:18] <Jim44491> the linux kernel is compiled for which class of CPUs ?
[19:18] <endure> Google should find you one or http://www.commandlinefu.com/
[19:18] <iceroot> Jim44491: its build for architectures not for special cpus
[19:18] <iceroot> strange: #bash
[19:18] <tensorpudding> Jim44491, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_supported_architectures
[19:18] <oCean> endure: please don't refer to google here
[19:19] <tensorpudding> it's rather difficult to find anything big enough to have an IOMMU and made since the mid-1980's that linux will not run on
[19:19] <tensorpudding> and for things without an MMU, there is uClinux
[19:20] <endure> oCean: Only offering a path to find the answer, that question could be answered with a quick google search.
[19:20] <iceroot> tensorpudding: i286 and lower for example
[19:20] <tensorpudding> doesn't the i286 lack an MMU
[19:20] <iceroot> tensorpudding: yes
[19:20] <tensorpudding> or does it just lack protected mode
[19:21] <iceroot> tensorpudding: mmu imo
[19:21] <oCean> endure: I understand, really - It's a discussion we had more then once, but for now referring to google is not acceptable in this channel
[19:21] <Hanz|Groober> Exxon Mobile? Fill her up son
[19:21] <iceroot> endure: then lets close this channel because everything can be answered by google and the manpages
[19:22] <Hanz|Groober> lol
[19:22] <Hanz|Groober> iceroot, just rm -rf *
[19:22] <tensorpudding> oh, it won't run on, say, any of the ancient IBM-compatible machines before the 386, or the oldest kind of macintoshes that had 68k processors and not 68020's
[19:22] <oCean> !danger
[19:22] <iceroot> oCean: not bad, you are getting faster :)
[19:22] <semitones> :/
[19:22] <oCean> iceroot: hehe
[19:22] <tensorpudding> so i guess it might not run on an amiga or an atari
[19:23] <endure> oCean: Fair enough then, iceroot: Was only offering a option to find a quick answer to a question, allowing someone to find the answer themself.
[19:23] <iceroot> tensorpudding: you dont want linux when you have amigaos :)
[19:23] <tensorpudding> linux probably wasn't ported to anything totally obsolete in 1990
[19:23] <weqw> lol
[19:24] <tensorpudding> if you want to run a totally free modern unix-like on your VAX you're stuck with a BSD
[19:25] <weqw> rm -rf * party!
[19:25] <weqw> whoo hooo
[19:25] <edoceo> So, I'm on Jaunty and using the old-releases site to get it updated.  Would I just update my apt.sources to point Karmic, then dist-upgrade, then update to point to Lucid and dist-upgrade?
[19:25] <oCean> sigh
[19:25] <EvilResistance> edoceo:  jaunty's EOL'd iirc
[19:25] <EvilResistance> !jaunty
[19:25] <EvilResistance> yep
[19:25] <edoceo> EvilResistance: ype
[19:25] <edoceo> I've already read EOL and those docs, they recommend doing fresh-install - which is not an option for me
[19:26] <Peenish|Galore> rm -rf * !!!
[19:26] <Peenish|Galore> lulz
[19:26] <edoceo> Or they point to using some GUI to do the update - which I don't have on this box
[19:26] <EvilResistance> edoceo:  i think you can do do-dist-upgrade in jaunty, no?
[19:26]  * edoceo checks
[19:26] <EvilResistance> edoceo:  that will initiate the upgrade process, if it exists
[19:26]  * EvilResistance isnt exactly certain when they introduced do-dist-upgrade
[19:27] <GatorAlli> hello, on Ubuntu, how can I read the output of a python process?
[19:27] <GatorAlli> or any process for that manner
[19:27] <Exxon> edoceo, donload the recent version and install back up the before you do it..that will nice and easy instead wasting time..please check the hcl before you install
[19:28] <tensorpudding> GatorAlli, how are you calling your script
[19:28] <GatorAlli> tensorpudding: I called my script in SSH with python script.py
[19:28] <GatorAlli> member:tensorpudding: but my ssh session closed
[19:28] <tensorpudding> GatorAlli, the stdout of your process will be attached to the shell that called it
[19:29] <GatorAlli> How can I reattach it when the SSH connection is interupted?
[19:29] <tensorpudding> GatorAlli, you can't really reattach it
[19:29] <GatorAlli> So I cannot see the output?
[19:29] <edoceo> What package has the dist-upgrade tool?  Is that update-manager ?
[19:29] <bsmith093> im trying to do sudo gems install, and it says gem, command not found, i thought ive installed every ruby package there is, im on lucid please help
[19:29] <edoceo> Exxon: have backup, system is compatible with HCL
[19:30] <tensorpudding> it's a fundamental flaw in the design, that once you detach file descriptors from whatever they were attached to, you can't re-attach them elsewhere
[19:30] <Exxon> edoceo, green light :)
[19:30] <GatorAlli> I used ps aux, and I can see that the script is still running
[19:30] <GatorAlli> So I cannot get the output anymore
[19:30] <GatorAlli> :/
[19:30] <tensorpudding> this is my understanding of the matter, i have never seen anything that purports to do otherwise
[19:31] <GatorAlli> hmm I'll ask around in Python
[19:31] <tensorpudding> it's not a python issue at all
[19:31] <tensorpudding> this is true for any process
[19:31] <tensorpudding> you have a few ways to mitigate it
[19:31] <tensorpudding> you can either redirect all your output to a file
[19:32] <tensorpudding> in which case you can disown the process and still collect the output when the process completes
[19:32] <tensorpudding> this is accomplished using the shell redirection operators, which are documented in the manual
[19:32] <Exxon> tensorpudding, please elobrate and make it in a line
[19:32] <theadmin> Meh, I gotta go
[19:33] <tensorpudding> the other, simpler alternative, since what you want is just a shell that is persistent against the whimsy of your SSH connection, is to use GNU screen or BSD's tmux
[19:33] <tensorpudding> Exxon, if i collated all this into one line it'd take me ten minutes and would be cut off...
[19:34] <tensorpudding> i find that when i try to collapse it all into a wall of text that 1) people balk at reading it all 2) it gets cut off 3) murphy's law: it takes so long the person who is listening leaves
[19:34] <Exxon> tensorpudding, that would really be nice ...and repeat if some familair will answer
[19:35] <tensorpudding> GatorAlli, are you still there?
[19:35] <GatorAlli> yep
[19:36] <jvhv> I have an issue with sound playback in kubuntu. On login a login-sound is played, but after that most sound does not work. How can I find the cause?
[19:36] <tensorpudding> GatorAlli, what i suggest is to download screen, it's a program that allows you connect multiple running shell processes to one program which can be detached gracefully from the terminal that spawned it, and reattached gracefully later
[19:36] <GatorAlli> looking at it right now
[19:37] <tensorpudding> the workflow would be, that you would run your long-running python script in screen, then if your SSH connection times out, you just reconnect, then run screen -R, to reattach your screen session, which is still connected to your python script
[19:37] <Zippa_GEEK> hej
[19:40] <mankand007> hi all.. i'm writing a paper on the advantages of using open source/cross platform software in large organizations.. any inputs would be really appreciated...
[19:40] <oCean> mankand007: please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[19:42] <Guest52515> ciao :)
[19:45] <hassan_> hello, I need a webcam server, I found webcam-server but it doesn't work with ubuntu 11.10. Any suggestions^
[19:45] <hassan_> ?
[19:49] <\vosse> Hi, guys. I've made a new keyboard layout. I've modified symbols/no and rules/base.{xml,lst} but it still won't show up in the keyboard layout settings window. Are there other files I need to modify?
[19:49] <riffautae> hassan_: to stream to the internet or something?
[19:50] <joemigal325> Help what is this!!!! http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[19:50] <guntbert> !it | Guest52515
[19:50] <bj_penn> ocean, hey, sorry for the delay response. i dont think its a problem with the server (ubuntu), its a problem with the client which is centos
[19:50] <bj_penn> the problem was portmap and nfs wasnt installed :D
[19:51] <bj_penn> i installed it but now im getting "operation not permitteD"
[19:51] <oCean> bj_penn: on the client, what does  showmount -e <servername>  show?
[19:52] <webskipper> Hi
[19:53] <alexxio> hi
[19:53] <bj_penn> theres no such comand as showmount
[19:53] <alexxio> i can't reach my webserver from within lan
[19:54] <alexxio> actually i don't have firewalls, and in localhost webserver is on
[19:54] <webskipper> I have problems with pre-installed mono in Ubuntu 11.10
[19:55] <luca_bi> help
[19:55] <hanan_> hi
[19:55] <webskipper> Tried to run an IronPython app
[19:55] <Si2100> Whats up
[19:55] <guzzlefry> Any reason why 32-bit is the recommended one?
[19:55] <guzzlefry> installation media ^^^
[19:55] <freemason1977> when i startup ubuntu it goes from the main desktop to  what looks like a different desktop completely with a bluebackground and one folder.  What do i make of this , its very odd.
[19:55] <Exxon> bj_penn, lsusb
[19:56] <Si2100> Freemanson1977, Try selecting a different wallpaper
[19:57] <phiscribe> is there an option, during install, do specify unity 2d be used
[19:57] <geoffmcc> guzzlefry: previously things like flash and some others had problems in 64bit, so i think that why they say 32bit is recomended
[19:57] <luca_bi> how can i delete username and password??
[19:58] <Exxon> alexxio, what the port number assigned to the web browser
[19:58] <alexxio> Exxon: 80
[19:58] <luca_bi> do you know?
[19:58] <alexxio> i left default settings on config file
[19:58] <luca_bi> I want to change password
[19:58] <luca_bi> and also username
[19:59] <geoffmcc> luca_bi: man userdel
[19:59] <alexxio> i can't even ping myself from another pc
[20:00] <theinvisible> hi
[20:00] <luca_bi> man userdel
[20:00] <luca_bi> man luca_bi del
[20:00] <luca_bi> k
[20:00] <geoffmcc> luca_bi: man is the manual page. from a terminal do man userdel and if you want to create account see man useradd
[20:01] <webskipper> Does anybody know why mono does not work on 11.10 ?
[20:01] <luca_bi> man userdel
[20:01] <luca_bi> it doesn't work
[20:01] <guntbert> luca_bi: what do you really want to do (if you delete an account it is really gone)
[20:01] <Exxon> alexxio, using IPv6
[20:01] <yourstrly> luca_bi: use the GUI
[20:01] <geoffmcc> luca_bi: you need to do it in terminal, not irc
[20:02] <luca_bi> from shell?
[20:02] <luca_bi> I want to delete username luca_bi
[20:02] <yourstrly> well, if you have GUI desktop
[20:02] <alexxio> exxon: don't think so, i have an ipv4 ip..should i check something?
[20:03] <luca_bi> ?
[20:03] <Exxon> alexxio, no then try 127.0.0.1 : 80
[20:03] <luca_bi> luca_bi i want to delete
[20:03] <luca_bi> mu username
[20:03] <luca_bi> i want to change it
[20:03] <guntbert> luca_bi: do you want to change the account name or to delete the account?
[20:03] <luca_bi> delete the account
[20:03] <freemason1977> omg this is awful
[20:04] <freemason1977> im stuck on this horrible desktop
[20:04] <luca_bi> how can i do?
[20:04] <freemason1977> i cant change the background
[20:04] <luca_bi> guntberg:?
[20:04] <guntbert> luca_bi: do you have another account on your machine?
[20:04] <guntbert> !tab | luca_bi
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[20:05] <geoffmcc> luca_bi: from terminal use the userdel command, see man userdel for options. Or you can use gui tool, go to dash and search user accounts if in 11.10
[20:05] <luca_bi> !tab | luca_bi
[20:06] <alexxio> exxon: if i do 127.0.0.1:80 from my pc in which lamp is installed, i get ok
[20:06] <alexxio> but the problem is that i can't make webserver seen into the LAN (not the internet, just LAN)
[20:06] <luca_bi> geoffmcc: I want to delete here not from terminal
[20:06] <luca_bi> can you understand?
[20:06] <Exxon> alexxio, if lamp is on 80 then web ??
[20:07] <oCean> luca_bi: from freenode network? You can /nick mynewnickname or /join #freenode for support.
[20:07] <alexxio> exxon: can't understand your question
[20:07] <geoffmcc> alexxio: do you have a firewall enabled?
[20:08] <luca_bi> ds
[20:08] <alexxio> geoffmcc : i don't think so, how can i check?
[20:08] <freemason1977> omg someone please help
[20:08] <alexxio> i'm on ubuntu 11.10
[20:08] <freemason1977> my desktop is gone
[20:08] <riffautae> Exxon: 'lamp' means a set of 4 different peices of software. apache is what serves web pages
[20:08] <geoffmcc> alexxio: if you havent installed anything for a firewaall do sudo ufw status
[20:08] <luca_bi> how can i delete my username please?
[20:09] <Exxon> alexxio,    http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/php/how-to-setup-a-dedicated-web-server-for-free/
[20:09] <luca_bi> could you give me the correct answer
[20:09] <alexxio> fw inactive
[20:09] <luca_bi> because u gave to me only errors
[20:09] <guntbert> luca_bi: I guess there is a language problem - try to ask in #ubuntu-it please
[20:09] <oCean> luca_bi: this is the ubuntu channel. Type   /join #freenode   for support with freenode irc network
[20:09] <geoffmcc> luca_bi: if your refering to your registered irc nick go to #freenode and ask
[20:09] <Exxon> riffautae, that what is going to find out
[20:10] <alexxio> i just have wlan connected and it says my ip address is 192.168.0.11
[20:10] <riffautae> Exxon: so what is the issue?
[20:10] <freemason1977> how do i get the ubuntu-desktop back without purging ?
[20:10] <Exxon> riffautae, so that it.. :)
[20:10] <FishFace> alexxio: Then have one of the machines on the lan go to that IP. Does not work?
[20:10] <geoffmcc> alexxio: so on the machine that lamp is installed you can acccess, but not from any other machine on network
[20:11] <neguebera> anybody here can explain me how can i not save my empathy pass????
[20:11] <riffautae> Exxon: what? are you having trouble with that tutorial? if so youll have to be more specific about what went wrong
[20:11] <alexxio> fishface: exactly, does not work
[20:12] <alexxio> the apache conf is set to listen to 80 (so it listens to network and not only loppback)
[20:12] <riffautae> alexxio: can you paste bin the out put of 'sudo iptables -L' and 'sudo netstat -nlp'
[20:12] <Exxon> riffautae, you should help alexxio instead of discussing with me.
[20:12] <alexxio> we're connected to the same router so the ip should be that of course because i saw it with ifconfi -a
[20:12] <diatomaceous> Uh.. I have no sound hardware all of a sudden.  Completely empty in Sound - Hardware. Ubuntu 11.10, dell precision M6600.. never had any problems until this boot-up.  Any advice?
[20:13] <alexxio> i want to underline that i have default settings on ubuntu
[20:13] <riffautae> diatomaceous: can you pastebin the output of dmesg
[20:13] <diatomaceous> riffautae: sure
[20:13] <Exxon> diatomaceous, yeh! sure about it
[20:14] <FishFace> alexxio: Only a suggestion as I do not know your setup, have you done any port forwarding on your router to allow this connection for the lampp pc?
[20:14] <alexxio> netstat doesnt say anything about apache (or httpd)
[20:14] <freemason1977> the desktop is either behind this blue one or its being shut down on boot
[20:14] <freemason1977> sudo apt-get -y purge ubuntu-desktop ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:14] <alexxio> fishface : no portforward, i want to access the webserver from within the same lan
[20:14] <freemason1977> that command wants over 300MB's
[20:14] <diatomaceous> Actually, I think these are the only two relevant lines:  [   21.005863] input: HD-Audio Generic HDMI/DP,pcm=3 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.1/sound/card1/input15
[20:14] <diatomaceous> [   21.165162] [drm:drm_mode_getfb] *ERROR* invalid framebuffer id
[20:15] <freemason1977> please someone help
[20:15] <phil_phys> Do you know function sessionstart()?
[20:15] <freemason1977> ?
[20:15] <MahaVishnu> freemason1977, thats cause ubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[20:15] <riffautae> diatomaceous: the second one is a  graphics error, but the first one indicates that your v ideo card's hdmi out's sound was recognised
[20:16] <FishFace> alexxio: Sorry. I can't help you. The lamp forums or here you can keep trying.
[20:16] <freemason1977> MahaVishnu:  can you help omg
[20:16] <Barsook_> Is there a grarfical interface for setting a wacom tablet's buttons to be used for keyboard keystrokes?
[20:16] <MahaVishnu> freemason1977, whats the problemo ?
[20:16] <freemason1977> this is incredibly harrasing
[20:16] <riffautae> alexxio: apache and httpd might not be running then
[20:16] <alexxio> tha't embarassing, i'm a tlc specialist :(
[20:16] <riffautae> apache/httpd dont know what its called atm
[20:17] <phil_phys> how can I register my nickname?
[20:17] <freemason1977> The desktop gets  "overwritten" on bootup
[20:17] <oCean> phil_phys: please  /join #freenode  for support with that
[20:17] <MahaVishnu> freemason1977, whats that mean ??
[20:17] <freemason1977> It reverts or brings up a different desktop with a blue background and only one folder on it
[20:17] <Exxon> ! register
[20:17] <alexxio> very thank you for your help ^_^
[20:17] <riffautae> MahaVishnu: i think he meant annoying
[20:18] <alexxio> i'll solve sooner or later
[20:18] <MahaVishnu> I want to know what his desktop being 'overwritten' means
[20:18] <freemason1977> First my original desktop comes up and then this other one with a bluebackground
[20:18] <Awolf> hey all i need some help im using Gnome 3 and i cant access the other pane option when i right click on a file and hover on copy to or cut to why ?
[20:18] <freemason1977> blue background *
[20:18] <antnash> Alright guys. I'm having issues getting non-password protected samba sharing working. Windows sees my server fine, but when I try and access a share I get 'Windows cannot access <share>'
[20:18] <diatomaceous> riffautae: I don't have speakers on my hdmi output
[20:18] <diatomaceous> riffautae: I just want the internal sound card and speakers to work
[20:18] <econdudeawesome> anyone has any recommendations for a command-line music/MIDI composer?
[20:18] <geoffmcc> freemason1977: when did it start doing it? what was done before it started happening?
[20:18] <diatomaceous> riffautae: and they've been fine until today
[20:19] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, did you check in alsamixer to make sure they were not muted ?
[20:19] <freemason1977> geoffmcc:  i haven't done anything at all AFAIK
[20:19] <diatomaceous> MahaVishnu: Not sure how to do that
[20:19] <freemason1977> I ran a update, thats about it
[20:19] <Exxon> diatomaceous, alsamixer
[20:19] <riffautae> econdudeawesome: i dont think you are going to find a cli one
[20:19] <Chaz> I've got "Bad password" on trying to connect to my router using WPA2 security code, but no problem connecting my router using WEP Eyncripted, using Wicd. (KDE Ubuntu)
[20:19] <geoffmcc> freemason1977: ok, what updates were installed?
[20:19] <webskipper> Please remove release 11.10 from ubuntu website !
[20:19] <diatomaceous> MahaVishnu: whoa, that worked.  What??!
[20:20] <happygolucky> freemason1977: if you ran the xserver as root it will often make a mess of configurations
[20:20] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, in a terminal type alsamixer anything with MM under it is muted
[20:20] <econdudeawesome> riffautae: really? That's a shame. They've been around for years and years.
[20:20] <riffautae> webskipper: ?
[20:20] <Awolf> hey all i need some help im using Gnome 3 and i cant access the other pane option when i right click on a file and hover on copy to or cut to why ?
[20:20] <Chaz> any fix solutions for me?
[20:20] <freemason1977> geoffmcc:  i just installed ubuntu yesterday, i ran the main update after install
[20:20] <diatomaceous> MahaVishnu: it was just turned down.  Why isn't this in the volume control thing in the unity bar?
[20:20] <econdudeawesome> riffautae: as in--people in the 80's used to use them (we had one when I was a child on a Tandy 1000)
[20:20] <freemason1977> 120mb's or so
[20:20] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, idk cause I dont use the same GUI as most people.
[20:20] <riffautae> econdudeawesome: the only thing i can find is SoX but it sounds like its just a file editor
[20:20] <freemason1977> happygolucky:  nothing like that
[20:20] <webskipper> riffautae: terminal is buggy... mono doesnt work... packages not available...
[20:21] <webskipper> riffautae: why offer a unstable version ?
[20:21] <riffautae> webskipper: are you sure its not just your hw that is unstable?
[20:21] <econdudeawesome> riffautae: oic. THanks! I'll give midish a look
[20:21] <alexxio> this is righ , isn't it? tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      3503/apache2
[20:21] <diatomaceous> MahaVishnu: Fair enough.  This is extremely confusing though.  According to "standard volume stuff", I have no audio devices and thus no available volume controls.
[20:21] <diatomaceous> MahaVishnu: but I now have perfectly functioning audio
[20:21] <freemason1977> I think the desktop is still up and running , its just this screen im looking at now for a desktop is hiding it
[20:21] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, in a terminal type aplay -l then go to pastebin.com and paste the results for me.
[20:21] <riffautae> diatomaceous: sounds like pulse audio messed up
[20:22] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, actually do aplay -L
[20:22] <webskipper> riffautae: no its the release, version 11.10
[20:22] <riffautae> diatomaceous: there is alsa, which is the actual sound system, then pulse audio which is a layer on top that some software uses
[20:22] <geoffmcc> freemason1977: when you did an update did you also activate any display drivers?
[20:22] <oCean> webskipper: many, many are using 11.10. If you just came to rant, please do so elsewhere
[20:22] <freemason1977> geoffmcc:  no.
[20:23] <diatomaceous> http://pastebin.com/wKhbgNHq
[20:23] <freemason1977> geoffmcc:  i didn't run into anything like that
[20:23] <Exxon> alexxio, please read the link for port forwading..  http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/php/how-to-setup-a-dedicated-web-server-for-free/
[20:24] <webskipper> oCean: I want to use the terminal / shell and want to press F10 - will not work with 11.10 - its only one bug.
[20:24] <riffautae> webskipper: what is f10 supposed t odo
[20:24] <webskipper> oCean: cant use pre-installed mono with ironpython app and so on...
[20:24] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, looks good to me!? and your audio was just turned down. so whats the problem currently ?
[20:24] <zaltekk> if the specs on my DVD-RW drive says it can write a CD-RW at 32x, but wodim -prcap says it can only write at 4x, can I do anything to force the higher speed?
[20:25] <riffautae> diatomaceous: if its still not showing hw in some apps, try restarting the pulse audio daemon
[20:25] <diatomaceous> MahaVishnu: My problem is the volume control app doesn't see ANY audio devices, thus I can't control my volume wiht my volume keys or the unity bar - but this alsa mixer does actually let me 'control my volume'
[20:25] <alexxio> exxon: i don't need pforward, i wanna use it from withinlan
[20:25] <diatomaceous> riffautae: how do i do that
[20:25] <webskipper> riffautae: try do use midnight commander (mc) - F10 exits mc. With 11.10 it opens the terminal menue. Cant fix it. Its a bug.
[20:25] <oCean> webskipper: this channel is not for general discussion. You can use launchpad to report bugs
[20:25] <riffautae> webskipper: not a bug, nothing is broken. just aconflicting shortcut
[20:25] <freemason1977> could xfce be running ? , is that what im seeing ?
[20:25] <riffautae> webskipper: use a different terminal
[20:26] <webskipper> oCean: the discussion is why it is offered on page ? why not an older / stable version ?
[20:26] <webskipper> riffautae: its pre-installed by ubuntu
[20:26] <Exxon> ! servers
[20:26] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, do this. sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[20:26] <freemason1977> xfce-terminal comes up in top
[20:26] <riffautae> webskipper: so? mc isnt. you cant expect a program that runs other programs to know every shortcut for every app ever made
[20:26] <freemason1977> can i simply killall that ?
[20:26] <diatomaceous> MahaVishnu: installing
[20:27] <diatomaceous> MahaVishnu: done
[20:27] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, pavucontrol from term to launch it or open it from the menu.
[20:27] <oCean> webskipper: once more, *this* channel is not the place for that discussion. You can ask for assistance with a specific issue; if it indeed has been identified as a bug, there is nothing this channel can do about that
[20:27] <riffautae> webskipper: you are being silly, there is no reason to call for the withdrawal of 11.10 because two of your apps dont do what you want
[20:27] <MahaVishnu> that will show you everything that pulseaudio knows and allow you to set all your options.
[20:27] <webskipper> riffautae: I dont exect that
[20:27] <diatomaceous> MahaVishnu: "Connection to PulseAudio failed."
[20:27] <geoffmcc> freemason1977: sorry, never used xfce.
[20:28] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, pulseaudio -k
[20:28] <GaRRu> I've got "Bad password" on trying to connect to my router using WPA2 security code, but no problem connecting my router using WEP Eyncripted, using Wicd. (KDE Ubuntu) any solutions for me?
[20:28] <Exxon> alexxio, i don't use within lan i don't need to its off the dmg where it has to be.. and connected to lan the web server is first time i have noticed.
[20:28] <webskipper> riffautae: the shell is main part of an os
[20:28] <diatomaceous> MahaVishnu:  E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such process
[20:29] <riffautae> webskipper: the fix has been suggested, use a terminal that does not have shortcuts that conflict with your software. there is no bug in terminal
[20:29] <freemason1977> ok brb
[20:29] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio start     does that start it ?
[20:29] <Tuncay-fu> Hello. Is there a program to convert xcf files (Gimp format) to jpeg? I am using xcf2png currently, but it does not save the camera exif data.
[20:29] <diatomaceous>  * PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions
[20:30] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, try this first. sudo alsa force-reload
[20:30] <webskipper> riffautae: what a fix ? K, I open ubuntu terminal, ok ? Now, when I deactivate commands in options - it doesnt work.
[20:30] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, im not sure how to kill / reboot pulse audio actually I guess on 11.10 let me figure it out.
[20:30] <diatomaceous> MahaVishnu: force-reload seemed to work
[20:31] <webskipper> riffautaeu: Dont want that the terminal handles my keys. In older version of ubuntu it worked.
[20:31] <Exxon> GaRRu, if you are using wep used the cli
[20:31] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, that didnt help you open pavucontrol did it ?
[20:31] <diatomaceous> MahaVishnu: no, I just tried again - same error
[20:32] <webskipper> riffautae: ubuntu team could make a update / patch
[20:32] <alexxio> ok, SEE THIS!! XD i can reach my webserver from OUTSIDE THE LAN, BUT not from INSIDE the lan. netgear router ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuu
[20:32] <GaRRu> Exxon, im using WPA2, I'm trying to connect to it. now I'm running WEP and it works. WPA2 doesn't
[20:32] <trism> webskipper: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/726639 there is a workaround for unity, change the key combo to open the first menu in ccsm
[20:32] <matteobassi1> hello
[20:32] <riffautae> webskipper: have you looked in preferences of either software to see if you can remap?
[20:33] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, I hate to say it but maybe a reboot? then try to open pavucontrol again. the internet says use pulseaudio --kill but that doesn't work .....
[20:33] <MahaVishnu> I tried sudo also.
[20:33] <diatomaceous> MahaVishnu: Ok, I'll reboot and try again tomorrow - for now it's "actually working" with that alsamixer terminal app, so I can putz along
[20:33] <webskipper> trism: yeah, why is no patch / update available? since Feb 2011 it is known...
[20:34] <oCean> webskipper: it's bug, it's in progress. There is nothing WE can do about that.
[20:34] <Exxon> GaRRu, what about wpa,
[20:35] <matteobassi1> Hello, I'm trying to import videos from my videocamera via firewire connection. I'm using Ubuntu 10.04, tried PiTiVi and OpenShot Video Editor but with no luck. Any suggestions? Thanks
[20:35] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, sounds good.
[20:35] <webskipper> oCean: yeah, Feb 2011 bug - why I have to use unity ? Why does mono not work. Why I have to use an old ubuntu version now ? I like ubuntu - but offering 11.10 is really bad.
[20:35] <geoffmcc> alexxio: are you sure your using the correct lan ip address then, cause that dont make sense
[20:35] <diatomaceous> MahaVishnu: Like I said, this is the first time i've had any issues, so I'll chalk it up to a one-time boot thing.
[20:35] <oCean> webskipper: this is your last warning: don't continue that discussion here
[20:36] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, ya never know some times why things do what they do.
[20:36] <Exxon> GaRRu, wep is flawed you can try wpa..wpa2 is really a very different matter.
[20:36] <diatomaceous> MahaVishnu: Yeah, every other time I go to shut down it just freezes at the 'ubuntu' logo instead of actually shutting down.
[20:37] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, lol my computer doesn't shut down cleanly either.
[20:37] <webskipper> oCean: k, what about mono ?
[20:37] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, try shutting it down with sudo halt next time
[20:37] <diatomaceous> MahaVishnu: That's what I normally do.
[20:37] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, hahahahha!
[20:37] <oCean> webskipper: earlier you told us these where bugs. There is nothing we can do about those. If you have an actual question, please provide al details, and wait for an answer
[20:38] <MahaVishnu> yea ubuntu has alot of issues in 11.10.
[20:38] <diatomaceous> MahaVishnu: I can't believe that it seems like ubuntu keeps getting LESS stable as time goes on.
[20:38] <Exxon> matteobassi1, banshee can do that with ease..
[20:38] <diatomaceous> I had so few problems with breezy badger => edgy eft era..
[20:38] <MahaVishnu> diatomaceous, seems to be the consensus.
[20:38] <oCean> MahaVishnu, diatomaceous Please, drop the usability discussion here
[20:39] <GaRRu> Exxon, "bad password" on wicd connection tryout
[20:39] <MahaVishnu> when I upgraded from 11.04 somehow I got 32bit flash on 64bit and just figured it out yesterday while helping someone else lol
[20:39] <riffautae> !offtopic
[20:39] <MahaVishnu> oCean, um sure man. whatever you say goes.
[20:39] <M4dD0G> im getting 'permission Denied' when i'm Root. ? I'm trying to install libgarmin for navit..
[20:39] <diatomaceous> Sorry, I thought talking about issues with ubuntu was exactly what this channel was for
[20:39] <Exxon> GaRRu, still holding wpa2
[20:39] <MahaVishnu> oCean, shouldn't you worry more about real trolls instead of people talking about UBUNTU
[20:39] <oCean> MahaVishnu, diatomaceous  feel free to /join #ubuntu-offtopic though
[20:40] <diatomaceous> I fail to see how a discussion of problems with ubuntu is off-topic here
[20:40] <Pici> MahaVishnu: This channel is for support only, its already busy enough without people having random discussions here.
[20:40] <riffautae> MahaVishnu: the problem is its a busy channel and chat makes it harder to see support talk
[20:40] <diatomaceous> can you turn off 'entered' and 'left' messages? that'd help substantially
[20:40] <MahaVishnu> it wasn't a random discussion. it was related to us figuring out what was wrong with his system setup!!!
[20:40] <riffautae> diatomaceous: yes i did actually
[20:40] <GaRRu> Exxon, now I'm using WEP, on WEP Eyncripted I can enter the net. on WPA2 it doesn't enter...
[20:41] <MahaVishnu> im so tired of coming here and helping people only to get lectures the first sentence I say that isn't 100% on topic
[20:41] <diatomaceous> honest question right there - I'm using pidgin and this channel would be much easier to use if i could turn off 'entered' and 'left' messages
[20:41] <lion42> MahaVishnu, #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:41] <riffautae> diatomaceous: dont know how to do it on pidgin, but others like irssi support it
[20:41] <lion42> problem solved.
[20:41] <MahaVishnu> whatever.
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> diatomaceous  try /ignore +joins +parts
[20:42] <Exxon> GaRRu, what is you router is using wep, wpa, wpa2
[20:42] <diatomaceous> MonkeyDust: thanks, but "Unknown command."
[20:42] <GaRRu> WPA2
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> then it is for irssi only
[20:42] <riffautae> diatomaceous: pidgin is pretty bare when it comes to setting, i suggest trying clients designed for irc specificly.
[20:42] <llutz> diatomaceous: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages#Pidgin.2FGaim
[20:42] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: i dont use, but google says there is a hide quit messages plugin
[20:42] <Pici> diatomaceous: #pidgin might have some idea.
[20:43] <diatomaceous> thanks guys
[20:43] <Exxon> GaRRu, Thiere is big configuration for that i don't think you can do that so lower it to wpa and connect to with ease with the gui.
[20:43] <MahaVishnu> here is my problem. I want to be able to kill Xorg completely with the option to do a startx or something earlier to briing it back ( but the problem is lightdm respawns Xorg every time I kill it )
[20:43] <mneptok> diatomaceous: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Pidgin#hide-joins-parts
[20:43] <Pici> MahaVishnu: At every boot?
[20:43] <riffautae> MahaVishnu: xinit i think is in charge of that, als could set the default runlevel lower
[20:43] <escott> M4dD0G, can you give the exact error message
[20:43] <MahaVishnu> Pici, no, like right now if I wanted to kill X lightdm would respawn it.
[20:44] <MahaVishnu> pstree shows lightdm spawns Xorg
[20:44] <diatomaceous> mneptok: nice, that works great.
[20:44] <Pici> MahaVishnu: Then stop the lightdm daemon.
[20:44] <MahaVishnu> Pici, if I stop lightdm my pc prints garbage chars to the screen. and is unuseable
[20:44] <MahaVishnu> like if I try to switch tty's it only prints garbage chars to the screen.
[20:45] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: lower your runlevel to 3
[20:45] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, sudo init 3 ?
[20:45] <Pici> !runlevels | zaltekk
[20:45] <webskipper> Have problems with mono and ubuntu 11.10 (pre-installed). mono ./ipy.exe (ironpython) doesn't work at all. Please help.
[20:45] <M4dD0G> escott: SHADOW:/home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps# cd /home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps/libgarmin/
[20:45] <GaRRu> Exxon, Why do you think? It already connected once.. since then it doesn't connect
[20:45] <zaltekk> ubottu: doh, forgot upstart caught on
[20:45] <zaltekk> ubottu: i do as i please.
[20:45] <MahaVishnu> Pici, im guessing its a lightdm bug ?
[20:45] <Pici> MahaVishnu: Then we'll need to fix that, as you'll need a working tty to do anything if you've stopped your login manager.
[20:45] <riffautae> webskipper: what is the error message
[20:45] <zaltekk> :P
[20:46] <M4dD0G> escott: ADOW:/home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps/libgarmin# ./autosh.sh
[20:46] <MahaVishnu> Pici, I showed someone all my Xorg.logs in here before He said the issue wasn't with my config, but maybe nvidia's video driver or lightdm.
[20:46] <Pici> MahaVishnu: Not really, it sounds like you have some other issue with your video adapter and the ttys.
[20:46] <escott> !paste | M4dD0G
[20:46] <MahaVishnu> Pici, I showed them my xorg.conf too..
[20:46] <webskipper> riffautae: "Could not load signature of IronPython.Runtime.List:get_Item due to:"
[20:46] <Exxon> GaRRu, if wep and wpa and connect easily then there should be something with wpa2 ..right
[20:46] <diatomaceous> for what it's worth, isn't a tiny bit of character added to a discussion a welcome relief to the constant back-and-forth one-line QnAs?
[20:46] <M4dD0G> escott: this is exact error msg -sh: ./autosh.sh: Permission denied
[20:46] <Pici> MahaVishnu: your ttys don't have anything to do with xorg.
[20:46] <riffautae> webskipper: please pastebin the whole message
[20:47] <MahaVishnu> Pici, How can I go about to find the root of this problem as I have no way to kill Xorg -_-
[20:47] <riffautae> diatomaceous: thats what #ubuntu-offtopic is all about, just switch channels when this one is too much :P
[20:47] <diatomaceous> but all the fun people are in here :D
[20:47] <webskipper> alex@alex-VirtualBox:~/ironpython$ mono ./ipy.exe
[20:47] <webskipper> Could not load signature of IronPython.Runtime.List:get_Item due to:
[20:47] <webskipper> Failed to load language 'PythonContext': Could not load type 'IronPython.Runtime.List' from assembly 'IronPython, Version=2.7.0.40, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=7f709c5b713576e1'.
[20:47] <FloodBot1> webskipper: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:48] <Pici> MahaVishnu: What video adapter do you have?
[20:48] <escott> !permissions | M4dD0G, most likely autosh.sh does not have the execute bit set
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> diatomaceous  try a discussion with the bots ;)
[20:48] <MahaVishnu> Pici, nvidia gefore gt 430 on nvidia 280.13 driver. installed using hardware-updater thing in ubuntu  (restricted drivers I think )
[20:48] <escott> M4dD0G, when installing something from outside of the APT repositories it is *very* important that you use a --prefix argument to ensure that your libraries are placed in /opt or /usr/local/
[20:48] <webskipper> Could not load signature of IronPython.Runtime.List:get_Item due to:
[20:49] <GaRRu> Exxon, right.
[20:49] <webskipper> Failed to load language 'PythonContext': Could not load type 'IronPython.Runtime.List' from assembly 'IronPython, Version=2.7.0.40, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=7f709c5b713576e1'.
[20:49] <webskipper> thats all
[20:49] <matteobassi1> How do I find the videocamera?
[20:49] <Pici> MahaVishnu: Hmm.. one moment.
[20:49] <M4dD0G> escott: i never knew that. thanks.
[20:50] <matteobassi1> By the way, the videocamera works with tape
[20:50] <diatomaceous> Can I throw out one more general question?  My Dell M6600 has an "AMD Firepro M8900" gpu.. technically, it's the same silicon as a radeon mobility 6970m, and there are even guides on how to change the video bios to make it recognized as the radeon.. the question is.. would that benefit me in any way in linux?  I'm currently using the open source drivers, and most things work well, but my battery life is abysmal, probably because I'm not using the propri
[20:50] <Exxon> GaRRu, still you want to stick to wpa2..then learn to configure it.
[20:50] <webskipper> I think its because dlr-languages is not available for mono on 11.10 - I am not sure...
[20:50] <riffautae> diatomaceous: the binary drivers are usually faster and can do better pm
[20:50] <Gentoo64> diatomaceous, it maye just be linux for the battery life, what are you comparing it to?
[20:51] <diatomaceous> riffautae: right, but there are no proprietary linux drivers for the mobility firepro cards yet
[20:51] <Exxon> Gentoo64, nice to see you :)
[20:51] <escott> diatomaceous, not likely to be that helpful. people usually go the other way, and convert a radeon into a firepro (for support with things like AutoCAD)
[20:51] <diatomaceous> just some beta ones which don't really work
[20:51] <Pici> MahaVishnu: Is this a 64 bit install?
[20:51] <MahaVishnu> Pici, yea 11.10
[20:51] <MahaVishnu> Pici, I upgraded from 11.04 if that helps.
[20:51] <webskipper> ups, sorry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/763132/ its my first pastebin
[20:52] <riffautae> diatomaceous: ah dunno then
[20:52] <mneptok> diatomaceous: i have an E350 APU, and the proprietary AMD video drivers render the machine unbootable. and performance is good enough with the Free "radeon" driver that i have not cared enough to look into lkml bug reports.
[20:52] <GaRRu> Exxon, I have no wrong configures in my router nor the Wicd that is installed in Ubuntu. As I said... I had been connected once with WPA2. Now its just saying Bad Password over and over again. Its not the configuration problem, its a Wicd problem. any solutions for fixing the connection tryouts?
[20:52] <Pici> MahaVishnu: Does the Ubuntu logo display at boot time? or is it all garbled too?
[20:52] <diatomaceous> mneptok: Yeah, that's basically been my experience as well.  I just can't believe how I get ~5 hours in windows, and less that 1 hour in linux.  It's unforgivably bad.
[20:53] <mneptok> diatomaceous: 4.5h on a 6-cell here. well within acceptable limits.
[20:53] <diatomaceous> mneptok: nice, congrats to you for that.  I have 9 cell but the draw is ~74 watts measured by powertop
[20:54] <Exxon> GaRRu, i told you wep,wpa can connect wpa2 cannot then its not wicd ..you should manually configure wpa2..so read..learn and configure..thats it.
[20:54] <GaRRu> Exxon, thanks...
[20:54] <Pici> MahaVishnu: Anyway, the 'alternative 1' instructions here should sort you out: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[20:54] <MahaVishnu> Pici, um it shows up, but this was an xfce install and now in on fluxbox
[20:55] <Pici> MahaVishnu: Well, it still sounds like its a framebuffer issue.
[20:55] <MahaVishnu> Pici, so follow that links advice ? for the sudo apt-get install v86d program ?
[20:55] <mneptok> diatomaceous: what kernel, and what arch?
[20:55] <Pici> MahaVishnu: Yes.
[20:55] <diatomaceous> mneptok:   3.0.0-13-generic #22-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 2 13:27:26 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:55] <MahaVishnu> Pici, thx let you know if I have issues.
[20:56] <spaceneedle> Do they have the ASPM fix for ubuntu 10.04? I want to try it out on my dell latitude.
[20:57] <mneptok> diatomaceous: same. weird that your experience is so different. i use XFCE, but that should hardly make *that* kind of difference.
[20:57] <jragon> Is there a way to ban certain programs from accessing internet, such as spotify?
[20:57] <diatomaceous> mneptok:  It's the same whether I launch unity, unity2d, gnome, or gnome classic
[20:58] <diatomaceous> mneptok: I'm 90% sure it's the video card, because the machine dumps heat like a blowdryer.
[20:58] <MahaVishnu> Pici, should I change this line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset video=uvesafb:mode_option=1280x1024-24,mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap"  to match my settings ?
[20:58] <diatomaceous> it's one of the fastest mobile GPUs you can buy, and if the open source radeon drivers are trying to use it at 100% all the time, it'd chew through the battery in no time
[20:59] <Pici> MahaVishnu: You mean to a different resolution?
[20:59] <MahaVishnu> Pici, yes sir.
[20:59] <Pici> MahaVishnu: Thats fine.
[20:59] <MahaVishnu> k.
[20:59] <escott> jragon, a number of approaches: LD_PRELOAD on glibc to cause socket open calls to break, but probably better supported is SELinux/AppArmor. The best 100% support is to ban those programs from the system
[20:59] <mneptok> diatomaceous: tried disabling anything GL rendered? no desktop effects and such?
[20:59] <diatomaceous> mneptok: How would I do that besides trying a login session with ubuntu 2D?
[20:59] <jragon> escott: I just want to stop it using the internet so I can gointo offline mode, and my sister can listen to music aswell
[21:00] <escott> diatomaceous, you can look at bumblebee/vgaswitcheroo if you have a builtin graphics card as well
[21:00] <mneptok> diatomaceous: oh, you said Unity 2D. sorry.
[21:00] <diatomaceous> escott: don't they only support nvida?
[21:00] <diatomaceous> escott: this laptop does have the on-board intel graphics though
[21:01] <escott> diatomaceous, there are projects for both ati and nvidia, one is bumblebee the other is vgaswitcheroo
[21:01] <mneptok> diatomaceous: huh? an AMD APU *and* Intel on-board?
[21:01] <diatomaceous> mneptok: AMD firepro and intel i7 built-in GPU
[21:01] <diatomaceous> no APU
[21:02] <Exxon> diatomaceous, ati drivers support is long forgotten by this time you should know that go with the vesa drivers
[21:02] <diatomaceous> Exxon: What?
[21:02] <Exxon> diatomaceous, amd has stopped the support for the ati drivers
[21:02] <mneptok> diatomaceous: so not an AMD APU then. i could have sworn you said APU, but i'm undercaffienated.
[21:02] <diatomaceous> Exxon: this is a brand new gpu
[21:02] <diatomaceous> mneptok: It's ok :)
[21:03] <morri> evening guys
[21:03]  * mneptok will be downstairs closing my head in a door. bbiab.
[21:03] <MahaVishnu> Pici, ok guide followed brb.
[21:03] <diatomaceous> escott:  Is there an easy way to try bumblebee or vgaswitcheroo?  They both sound daunting with kernel recompiling and all :|
[21:04] <Exxon> diatomaceous, lspci | VGA             lets us also see thenh
[21:04] <diatomaceous> only the ATI showed up
[21:05] <pertutatis> anyone know how to convert avi to amv?
[21:05] <escott> diatomaceous, they are. you could look for a ppa, but they are both in very early development stages
[21:05] <riffautae> pertutatis: ffmpeg might be able to
[21:05] <diatomaceous> escott: Understood.  Sounds like I just need to wait patiently :)
[21:06] <Exxon> pertutatis, try this        http://code.google.com/p/amv-codec-tools/wiki/HowToConvertToAMV
[21:06] <diatomaceous> escott: In the meantime, rebooting into windows for the commute isn't THAT painful, but I think it's embarrassing for the linux community that battery life can be up to 5x greater in windows right now than ubuntu
[21:06] <pertutatis> thanks!
[21:07] <Wiz_KeeD> hello guys, if i have a multitude of directories and i want to navigate through them from the cli, but the name is very similar aaabbbcccddd-123 and aaabbccdc-456
[21:07] <Exxon> they can restart the gdm instead the whole system
[21:08] <Wiz_KeeD> is there any way i can navigate to them by the chars after the dash
[21:08] <Wiz_KeeD> so i don't have to tab complete by adding char by char?
[21:08] <Wiz_KeeD> kind of a...smarter way to navigate
[21:08] <escott> diatomaceous, there isn't much that can be done. the manufacturers just shovel whatever the cheapest circuitry they can into the device, and then sign NDAs to get access to the docs so they can write drivers. if you are willing to pay more for a laptop with well supported open hardware you can get good battery performance
[21:08] <Exxon> !tab
[21:08] <diatomaceous> escott: Didn't AMD's release of their driver source code mean an end to this though?
[21:09] <diatomaceous> also, is ANYONE getting decent battery life with an AMD gpu?
[21:09] <Wiz_KeeD> ubottu, yes i know but when the names are very similar i have to tab complete 5 times
[21:09] <kimp> Just installed 11.10 alongside win 7 and now GRUB can not boot either OS...  Any ideas?
[21:09] <Wiz_KeeD> and i still end up reading the whole directory so i know how what's next...
[21:10] <escott> diatomaceous, yes, but your problem is in the interaction between the intel CPU and the AMD chipset. so although we finally have open docs for ATI (and even those have problems), and we have good support from intel, we don't know everything that is going on between the two
[21:10] <Exxon> Wiz_KeeD, use first three letters and press tab it will auto complete
[21:10] <escott> Wiz_KeeD, and what are you expecting to be able to do?
[21:10] <Wiz_KeeD> i was just thinking if there was a better way or not
[21:11] <MahaVishnu> Pici, well that made the latest kernel unbootable ( I get to grub but if I select that kernel it just hangs with a _ in the top left and some times gets garbled now )
[21:11] <diatomaceous> escott: that's a really good explanation
[21:11] <kimp> Anyone?  http://superuser.com/questions/365722/installed-linux-and-now-win-7-laptop-will-not-boot
[21:11] <Wiz_KeeD> something like this: 20110519145457-3115-ABCD0012, 20110520151401-3115-ABCD0012, 20110520151532-8838-ABCD0012
[21:11] <Wiz_KeeD> tab complete your way through these...
[21:12] <escott> !grub | kimp try reinstalling grub
[21:12] <user829385> so what am i missing. cat /proc/asound/version says alsa 1.0.23 but the installed version reports as 1.0.24
[21:12] <escott> Wiz_KeeD, yeah don't name your directories like that :)
[21:12] <Pici> MahaVishnu: Hrm.  I personally haven't had any framebuffer issues like that myself, so I can't point you to anything else.  Maybe someone here has an idea?
[21:12] <Wiz_KeeD> they are generated like that, any way my question has been aswered, there's no way
[21:13] <Wiz_KeeD> thank you
[21:13] <kimp> thanks escott and ubottu
[21:13] <MahaVishnu> Pici, ok.
[21:14] <Pici> MahaVishnu: Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
[21:14] <escott> Wiz_KeeD, there may be some better way of dealing with this if you want to let us know what you are trying to actually accomplish. obviously tabbing through filenames is not the goal, but maybe you are looking for something in particular
[21:14] <MahaVishnu> Pici, its cool, can I change my files back and update grub + update initmfs to get my latest kern back?
[21:15] <Pici> MahaVishnu: Yes, Exactly.
[21:15] <escott> user829385, have you rebooted?
[21:15] <Reaper50435> where are all the pre-installed programs located at?
[21:15] <user829385> escott: ya - it seems the kernel version is not in sync with the user version
[21:15] <Reaper50435> files wish
[21:16] <escott> !filesystem | Reaper50435
[21:16] <user829385> escott: aplay --version also reports 1.0.24
[21:16] <escott> user829385, then you probably haven't rebooted since updating the modules, or you booted into an older kernel
[21:16] <Reaper50435> thanks
[21:17] <user829385> escott: i've been rebooting for 10 minutes now into 2.6.32-36
[21:17] <sprinklz> i need to reinstall my wireless card drivers in 10.10
[21:18] <sprinklz> how would i would i do that?
[21:18] <Exxon> !sound
[21:18] <pierre__> quit
[21:19] <simon___1> join #mpd
[21:20] <marco> ...
[21:20] <escott> user829385, and is that the most recent kernel available to you?
[21:20] <Joe_> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[21:20] <delinquentme> anyone here a java programmer?  I'm looking for good recommendations as to how to setup a java dev environment on ubuntu 10.04 with minimal extras ... ex I'd prefer to use gedit over a IDE
[21:20] <chrisw957> #gstreamer
[21:20] <janitor61> I have a PHP file calling ffmpeg, and it's uncallable from PHP - complains about libraries having no version info; but it's fine in a shell - Which environment variables do I need to add in order for ffmpeg to find its libraries?
[21:20] <user829385> escott: ya
[21:20] <user829385> escott: 10.04 lucid
[21:22] <Joe_> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[21:22] <written_> i installed znc on ubuntu 11.10. trying to connect from the client fails with: invalid password
[21:22] <written_> what's wrong?
[21:22] <Exxon> !eclipse ide
[21:22] <escott> user829385, i would run apt-get update; apt-get upgrade to make sure you have the most recent stuff, and then check dpkg -l "*linux*" to see if you have all the recent kernel versions installed
[21:23] <Exxon> delinquentme, eclipse ide
[21:23] <MahaVishnu> if im on fluxbox is /etc/rc.local the best way to make sure a program is running on login ?
[21:23] <delinquentme> Exxon, yeah I'd prefer to not have to use an IDE :D
[21:23] <user829385> thanks, escott. adios
[21:23] <mneptok> Joe_: do not spam.
[21:23] <escott> MahaVishnu, rc.local is not run on login. you should put something in your fluxbox session
[21:23] <winterfeld> hallo
[21:24] <Exxon> delinquentme, compile source..
[21:24] <MahaVishnu> escott, like in fluxbox.desktop
[21:24] <winterfeld> jemand deutsch
[21:24] <MahaVishnu> escott, rc.local is run at each runlevel right?
[21:25] <Joe_> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[21:25] <MahaVishnu> Joe_, stuff it.
[21:25] <winterfeld> wer kann mir helfen?
[21:25] <K3lly22> to go for money free http://www.i-gagnant-barre.com/?u=R34LD4RK&lang=fr
[21:25] <K3lly22> to go for money free http://www.i-gagnant-barre.com/?u=R34LD4RK&lang=fr
[21:25] <FloodBot1> K3lly22: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:25] <bastidrazor> winterfeld: don't you mean winterfell
[21:25] <Exxon> delinquentme, i am java drop out..sleeping while the session :))
[21:25] <escott> MahaVishnu, sure -- im not sure how fluxbox session management works. but rc.local is part of the rc/init process, which is distinct from user desktop sessions
[21:26] <totesmuhgoats> hi friends
[21:26] <MahaVishnu> escott, ok. thats what I thought about rc.local too
[21:26] <delinquentme> Exxon, session?  Ohh in college you mean?
[21:27] <bastidrazor> MahaVishnu: you may have to put a sleep X on the command to allow the UI to load.
[21:27] <Exxon> delinquentme, yep..sorry so boring i tried ..but you know
[21:27] <MahaVishnu> I just want to use xfce4-volumed with fluxbox, I have to manually strt it every time I login.
[21:29] <delinquentme> Exxon, haha yeah education is the suck  ... im working on some tutorials which you know .. might keep someone awake
[21:31] <cohn> hello
[21:32] <Exxon> delinquentme, torrent there are plenty..sorry for the off-topic
[21:32] <cohn> how can i fix this:
[21:32] <cohn> Setting up udev (173-0ubuntu4) ...
[21:32] <cohn> udev start/running, process 9697
[21:32] <cohn> info: unrecognized option '--convert-db'
[21:32] <cohn> ?
[21:32] <FloodBot1> cohn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:32] <cohn> sorry
[21:33] <janitor61> .j php
[21:34] <cohn> anyone?
[21:36] <iceman31ad> hello  any gurus around
[21:37] <janitor61> how do programs find the libraries they need? is there an environment variable? does it use $PATH ?
[21:37] <neersighted> Can I get some help with Nautalus?
[21:38] <jokus> whats equivalent of tty conf files in ubuntu 8.04 ?
[21:38] <iceman31ad> whats up neer
[21:39] <written_> what is wrong with znc?
[21:39] <neersighted> hai iceflatline
[21:39] <written_> i always get "invalid password"
[21:39] <neersighted> *iceman31ad
[21:39] <neersighted> derp
[21:39] <neersighted> http://pastie.org/2982720
[21:39] <neersighted> ^------ Any ideas?
[21:40] <neersighted> iceman31ad, Do i know you?
[21:40] <escott> janitor61, lots of stuff starting with /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*
[21:41] <Exxon> neersighted, miksudo natilus
[21:41] <rich3> what's the graphical manager that displays partitions and disks in Lubuntu?
[21:41] <neersighted> kk
[21:41] <Exxon> neersighted, sorry wait a bit
[21:41] <neersighted> miksudo?
[21:41] <neersighted> O-o
[21:41] <neersighted> gksudo?
[21:42] <Exxon> neersighted, yep ..:)
[21:42] <neersighted> Thats what my .desktop launcher does
[21:42] <neersighted> :p
[21:42] <neersighted> it does not work
[21:42] <neersighted> Error copying '/home/neer/.Xauthority' to '/tmp/libgksu-n5AlLs': Permission denied`/home/neer/.z.tmp' -> `/home/neer/.z'
[21:42] <yourstrly> rich3: gparted?
[21:42] <neersighted> ignore the .z
[21:42] <MahaVishnu> rich3, you could use palimpsest
[21:42] <neersighted> thats ohmyzsh being a derp
[21:43] <escott> neersighted, gksudo
[21:43] <neersighted> i did
[21:43] <neersighted> $ neer@ubuntu (~/.irssi): gksudo nautilus
[21:43] <neersighted> Error copying '/home/neer/.Xauthority' to '/tmp/libgksu-5aEDNi': Permission denied`/home/neer/.z.tmp' -> `/home/neer/.z'
[21:43] <Exxon> neersighted, go to the /temp then cp it.
[21:43] <neersighted> okay
[21:43] <rich3> palimpsest works TYVM mahvishnu
[21:43] <neersighted> ./temp or /tmp?
[21:43] <cohn> can anyone help me solve this?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=39d471a3d609cb3bd8fba500f4704edb&p=11506903&postcount=3
[21:44] <escott> neersighted, what is this .z file?
[21:44] <neersighted> ohmyzsh being a derp
[21:44] <inashdeen> hi guys,i have a bit of problem here. i removed completely sun java and install open jdk 7, the weird thing is, it brought in also open jdk6, and for some odd reason, i cant seem to remove it. it breaks my java. i am not sure which one is actually running, because when i test java --version, it shows me error, could not create virtual machine. nevertheless, java tester on the net as well as java apple (chats) and java softwares we
[21:44] <inashdeen> so..... what is actually wrong with my system
[21:45] <neersighted> inashdeen, I believe you can use alternatives to get it to find open_JDK7
[21:45]  * neersighted can't rememebr how though
[21:45] <neersighted> i have a gui alternitives manager
[21:45] <neersighted> want the ppa?
[21:45] <Exxon> inashdeen, why did you remove the dependencies along with it
[21:46] <written_> anyone can help with znc configuration?
[21:46] <EvilResistance> written_:  i can, sup
[21:46] <neersighted> http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/02/12/galternatives-gui-alternatives/
[21:46] <inashdeen> exxon L what dependencies??
[21:46] <neersighted> inashdeen, ---^
[21:46] <inashdeen> neersighted : it gimme this update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for -javaplugin.so. update-java-alternatives: plugin alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre/lib/i386/IcedTeaPlugin.so  but like what i've said, my java plugin on the net works perfectly, i can confirm that the ice plugin is there
[21:46] <neersighted> O_o
[21:46] <written_> EvilResistance, cliens always gets: invalid password
[21:46] <neersighted> try the gui then
[21:46] <inashdeen> neersighted: what?
[21:47] <EvilResistance> written_:  have them put the server pass as Username:Password
[21:47] <neersighted> http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/02/12/galternatives-gui-alternatives/
[21:47] <neersighted> this
[21:47] <neersighted> add the ppa, install it, makes it easy
[21:47] <EvilResistance> written_:  where Username is their ZNC username, and Password is that account's passcode
[21:47] <written_> EvilResistance, yes, correct
[21:47] <EvilResistance> written_:  and they still get invalid passcode?
[21:47] <written_> exactly
[21:47] <EvilResistance> written_:  can i /query you for a sec?
[21:48] <Exxon> inashdeen, never mind.. http://openjdk.java.net/install/
[21:48] <neersighted> Exxon, I just chmod'd -R 777 /tmp, and it still wont run
[21:48] <written_> EvilResistance, i'm not registred atm
[21:48] <written_> so may not work
[21:48] <Exxon> chmod 700
[21:48] <inashdeen> neersighted : how will the gui makes any difference?
[21:48] <escott> neersighted, sticky-bit could be a source of trouble here
[21:48] <EvilResistance> written_:  i can still send you a privmsg ;P
[21:48] <neersighted> sticky-bit?
[21:48] <neersighted> O-o
[21:48] <neersighted> how did that get set?
[21:48] <written_> EvilResistance, k
[21:48] <DemonWitch> Any good disassembler for linux?
[21:49] <grkblood> how do i get my integrated laptop webcam to work with ubuntu? all options in cheese are inactive which im presuming means its not registering a webcam
[21:49] <neersighted> inashdeen, i fixed my java with that tool, because i couldnt get it from a term
[21:49] <escott> neersighted, sticky-bit is always set on /tmp for security reasons
[21:49] <inashdeen> exxon : i told you i've did that, i am just not sure which java is running by default on my system. i tested but sun and 7, but runs my java program well. and the plugin on my browser worked wel
[21:49] <econdudeawesome> Why would I get a "no valid sound driver" error?
[21:49] <inashdeen> well
[21:49] <neersighted> escott, this never happened before
[21:49] <neersighted> hmm
[21:49] <neersighted> escott, teamviewer?
[21:50] <pedja> Anybody has suggestion on Certificate Authority software to use on Ubuntu/Debian to replace NewPKI?
[21:50] <neersighted> Can anyone teamviewer with me?
[21:51] <neersighted> escott, how would i fix this? This is the first time i have had a error on sudo/gksudo nautilus
[21:51] <neersighted> daf*ck?
[21:51] <neersighted> it works!
[21:51] <neersighted> with sudo
[21:51] <neersighted> not gksudo
[21:51] <neersighted> O_0
[21:51] <FloodBot1> neersighted: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:51] <escott> neersighted, some things to check... that the correct owner is set on the xauthority file, also look at this .z symlink and figure out what that is
[21:51] <neersighted> okay
[21:51] <hacked_kernel> Is it possible to use Wayland now with Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[21:52] <Lunar_Lander> good evening, just used Skype for ubuntu (got it from the Software Center) and then I noticed connections all over the world and to eastern europe
[21:52] <inashdeen> neersighted : thanx, at least that program indicate to me that i am running openjdk 7, which is good enough for me :)
[21:52] <Lunar_Lander> I read about that in the Malwarebytes forum
[21:52] <neersighted> it works if i 777 my .Xauthority
[21:52] <neersighted> inashdeen, np :)
[21:53] <Lunar_Lander> so this seems to be normal for Skype to use the client's PCs?
[21:53] <Lunar_Lander> does anybody know about that?
[21:53]  * neersighted feels so good about himself right now
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> hacked_kernel  http://www.thevarguy.com/2011/09/20/canonical-supports-wayland-display-server-but-where-is-it/
[21:53] <DeltaEpsilon> just created my own gnome3 shell-extension :-)
[21:53] <escott> Lunar_Lamp, skype is a distributed protocol
[21:53] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[21:53] <neersighted> I got wubi on its own partition, got irssi sending libnotify messages, and have a sexy dual-boot screen with burg
[21:53] <Lunar_Lander> this means?
[21:53] <neersighted> <3
[21:54] <Pici> !offtopic
[21:54] <neersighted> :p
[21:54] <neersighted> Can anyone help me here?
[21:54] <escott> Lunar_Lamp, think bittorrent or music sharing. skype corporation doesn't pay for the bandwith costs of the skype infrastructure
[21:54] <Lunar_Lander> Pici: so Skype for ubuntu may not be discussed here?
[21:54] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:54] <Pici> Lunar_Lander: It was directed towards neersighted.
[21:54] <neersighted> Pici, ik
[21:54] <Lunar_Lander> but I don't want to have skype distributing stuff over my PC
[21:54] <neersighted> soz
[21:55] <Lunar_Lander> or do they just run the calls and so on?
[21:55] <Lunar_Lander> with stuff I mean like MP3s, movies and so on
[21:55] <Lunar_Lander> I don't want that
[21:55] <neersighted> Is there a command I can use to cat recursivly to grep for a string in ~300 files?
[21:55] <neersighted> *recursively
[21:55] <neersighted> ie
[21:55] <neersighted> cat -r *|grep mv .z
[21:55] <Pici> neersighted: grep -r string /path/*
[21:56] <neersighted> oh
[21:56] <escott> Lunar_Lamp, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype_protocol
[21:56] <Lunar_Lander> thanks escott
[21:56]  * neersighted waits
[21:56] <Lunar_Lander> and sorry for misunderstanding Pici
[21:56] <Pici> Lunar_Lander: its fine, it happens.
[21:56] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[21:56] <DemonWitch> Any good disassembler for x86_64 ?
[21:57] <neersighted> oic
[21:57] <neersighted> its part of git-sh
[21:57] <neersighted> Pici, thanks
[21:58] <neersighted> Now, can anyone help me with gksudo nautilus?
[21:58] <Lunar_Lander> but Skype now belongs to Microsoft, I read?
[21:58] <neersighted> it works with my .Xauth. file at 777
[21:58] <neersighted> Lunar_Lamp, yep
[21:59] <escott> Lunar_Lamp, yes
[21:59] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:59] <Lunar_Lander> how comes everyone calls me Lunar_Lamp?
[21:59] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[21:59] <neersighted> escott, what perms/bit should be on my .Xauth / /temp
[21:59] <neersighted> */tmp
[21:59] <neersighted> O_o
[21:59] <neersighted> lol tab complete
[21:59] <neersighted> lololol
[22:00] <escott> neersighted, well generally you want the Xauth to have 600, and stuff in /tmp should also be 600, unless you want it to be publicly accessible. I still want to know what this .z folder is?
[22:00] <WLU> how can I tell the commands to things that are in system settings in 11.10 i.e display which used to be gnome-display-properties but is no longer true
[22:00] <neersighted> Am i right that you just need to pass the text paramater to the kerenel to get the CLI?
[22:00] <neersighted> escott, .z is a small cache file used by vcprompt
[22:00] <neersighted> aparently
[22:01] <neersighted> it only does that moving spam when you are in a git/hg/bzr/cvs/svn dir tho
[22:01] <neersighted> <3 git
[22:01]  * neersighted sets 600 on his stuff
[22:01] <Lunar_Lander> but I can be confident that this crosstalk of skype can't kill my ubuntu?
[22:01] <escott> neersighted, you can also get to a tty by ctrl-alt-f1. so why is gksudo nautilus giving you an error about .z.tmp?
[22:02] <neersighted> that's me eing in my .irssi
[22:02] <escott> Lunar_Lamp, not really. is a closed source program
[22:02] <neersighted> *being
[22:02] <neersighted> its a repo
[22:02] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[22:02] <Lunar_Lander> hm strange
[22:02] <Lunar_Lander> why does the CD still have this title
[22:02] <neersighted> escott, disregard the .z .z.tmp error
[22:02] <Lunar_Lander> got a CD-RW burned with K3b
[22:02] <Lunar_Lander> erased it, burned something new on it
[22:02] <Lunar_Lander> and still has the old title
[22:03] <neersighted> Maybe it wasn't rewriteable?
[22:03] <neersighted> :p
[22:03] <neersighted> xchat is pissing me off
[22:03] <Lunar_Lander> "Arduino Breadboard", but now I burned the Sophos AV installer on it
[22:03] <neersighted> brb in irssi
[22:03] <Lunar_Lander> strange
[22:03] <escott> neersighted, so 11.10 had a change from 11.04 regarding how xauthority was configured. are you using 11.10?
[22:03] <neersighted> yep
[22:03] <neersighted> Oneric
[22:03] <neersighted> Ohh ik what i did
[22:04] <neersighted> the .Xauth is part of the X server
[22:04] <neersighted> and i was making a alias called lightdm to do "startx lightdm"
[22:04] <neersighted> for when i booted in cli but wanted X
[22:04] <neersighted> must have messed up my X files
[22:04] <neersighted> hmmm
[22:04] <neersighted> Seems to work now
[22:04] <Lunar_Lander> does your K3b also freeze when finalizing a disc?
[22:04] <escott> neersighted, you should do a service lightdm start not startx
[22:05] <neersighted> okay
[22:05]  * neersighted changes his alias
[22:05] <neersighted> /etc/init.d/lightdm?
[22:05] <neersighted> /etc/init.d/lightdm start ; /etc/init.d/gdm start ; ect?
[22:05] <Lunar_Lander> xD but I like the sounds
[22:05] <escott> Lunar_Lamp, finalizing disks is a common place where burning breaks. you can use wodim and tell it not to finalize
[22:05] <neersighted> 1633 nicks?
[22:05] <Lunar_Lander> ah OK
[22:05] <neersighted> My irssi nick bar blew up
[22:05] <Lunar_Lander> wodim is one of the profiles in K3b right?
[22:06] <Alives> neersighted: switch to weechat :)
[22:06] <escott> Lunar_Lamp, no its the command line burner
[22:06] <neersighted> Alives: You'll nevar take me alive!
[22:06] <Lunar_Lander> oh ok
[22:06]  * Alives is totally happy with the switch to weechat from irssi (and its only been 24hrs)
[22:06] <escott> Lunar_Lamp, k3b might have a toggle to turn off finalization
[22:06] <neersighted> Alives: I haz a beautyful perl script that shows me gtk notifications with a irssi logo when i get ping'd/pm'd/dcc'd
[22:07] <totesmuhgoats> hi guys, what is the default DM in ubuntu 11.10?
[22:07] <escott> totesmuhgoats, lightdm
[22:07] <neersighted> escott: so /etc/init.d/lightdm start
[22:07] <Alives> neersighted: weechat has that... probably in python or ruby too :)
[22:07] <totesmuhgoats> scoopex: is it the same in xubuntu?
[22:07] <neersighted> Alives: :p
[22:07] <DelphiWorld> hello folks
[22:07] <DelphiWorld> i am trying to get ushare done
[22:07] <totesmuhgoats> er sorry escott
[22:07] <neersighted> Alives: Mine is sexar
[22:07] <Alives> libnotify/growl style?
[22:07] <Alives> haha
[22:07] <neersighted> Alives: libnotify
[22:07] <neersighted> Alives: With irssi logo
[22:07] <escott> neersighted, no use "service" it creates a clean environment for init execution. service lightdm start
[22:07] <neersighted> escott: kk
[22:08]  * neersighted edits his alias
[22:08] <Lunar_Lander> thanks again escott
[22:08] <escott> totesmuhgoats, probably not, but I dont know xubuntu
[22:08] <Alives> neersighted: http://www.weechat.org/scripts/stable/tag/notify/
[22:08] <neersighted> Alives: Want to see it? Teamviewer?
[22:08] <Alives> lulz
[22:08]  * neersighted likes his
[22:08] <auronandace> totesmuhgoats: yes, xubuntu uses lightdm
[22:08] <Alives> no thats ok
[22:08] <Alives> but i do have TV installed :)
[22:08] <neersighted> :p
[22:08] <neersighted> my irssi theme is all green
[22:08] <neersighted> <3
[22:08] <Lunar_Lander> is there TV for ubuntu?
[22:09] <neersighted> What was the key to screenshot?
[22:09] <Lunar_Lander> didn't find it in the Software Center
[22:09] <Lunar_Lander> Print
[22:09] <Alives> TV as in teamviewer
[22:09] <Lunar_Lander> top right
[22:09] <escott> neersighted, printsreen
[22:09] <Lunar_Lander> yeah I mean teamviewer
[22:09] <neersighted> Lunar_Lander: get it off their website
[22:09] <neersighted> escott: thanks
[22:09] <Lunar_Lander> ah OK
[22:09] <FloodBot1> Lunar_Lander: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:09] <Alives> Lunar_Lander: there is a v6 deb, but i use v7 in wine
[22:09] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[22:09] <jonathan_> has anyone ever got Broadcom wireless working
[22:09] <Lunar_Lander> what is paste.ubuntu.com? something like pastebin?
[22:09] <aeon-ltd> Lunar_Lander: yes
[22:10] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[22:10] <totesmuhgoats> escott: auronandace: thanks
[22:10] <Lunar_Lander> cool! way less ads on there
[22:10] <Lunar_Lander> thanks aeon-ltd
[22:10] <auronandace> totesmuhgoats: no worries :)
[22:10] <neersighted> someone ping me?
[22:10] <Lunar_Lander> neersighted: like this?
[22:11] <neersighted> yep
[22:11] <Lunar_Lander> one function that I really like is the hashing system
[22:11] <neersighted> y u no save screenshot, lightdm?
[22:11] <Lunar_Lander> i.e. md5sum, sha1sum and so on
[22:12] <Lunar_Lander> that could be useful if integrated into windows
[22:12] <neersighted> Guys, what's the config folder for grub?
[22:12] <neersighted> To add menu items? I forgot :(
[22:13] <neersighted> Oh, and did anyone figure out how to get rid of the curse that is empathy/gwibber?
[22:13] <escott> neersighted, modify /etc/grub.d or /etc/default/grub
[22:13] <neersighted> etc/default/burg for me
[22:13] <neersighted> :p
[22:13]  * neersighted gets to work
[22:14] <neersighted> escott: What's the kernel paramater for CLI mode?
[22:14] <neersighted> is it cli or text or something?
[22:14] <escott> neersighted, text will disable the dm
[22:14] <neersighted> thats the idea
[22:14] <neersighted> <3
[22:14] <neersighted> but the alias is to start it if i want it
[22:14] <neersighted> so its text?
[22:15] <escott> neersighted, yes
[22:15] <neersighted> I can just copy and paste the menu entry, and tell it to boot quiet splash text?
[22:15] <escott> neersighted, sure
[22:15] <neersighted> kk
[22:16] <Lunar_Lander> may I ask a question about who is using arduino or is that too offtopic?
[22:16] <engammalsko> Can someone help me with gnome-panel on 11.10? The clock is in the middle, no trash can, and it looks just messed up.
[22:17] <escott> engammalsko, there is no gnome-panel in 11.10. there is gnome-shell or gnome-fallback
[22:17] <Diranged> im trying to setup my server as an ldap client.. and i normally have no issues with this, but this server is giving me fits..
[22:17] <Diranged> its ubuntu 10.04.. i have setup the /etc/ldap.conf, /etc/ldap/ldap.conf, and installed libnss_ldap as well as libpam_ldap..
[22:18] <Diranged> i can do a getent passwd/group and get lists of users and groups..
[22:18] <Diranged> but i cannot do 'id <user>' or 'su <user>'.. it returns Unknown id: <user>
[22:18] <Diranged> i havnt seen this problem before.. what am i missing?
[22:18] <engammalsko> escott: I used install gnome-shell, gnome-panel and gnome-tweak tool and change to gnome berfore signing in.
[22:18] <thondo> anyone here running ubu on a xoom?
[22:18] <Crash_O-D> Under xfce how can I make it on my laptop that the touchpad cannot be used is click. I tried under mouse but very limited options non for what im looking for
[22:19] <engammalsko> escott: Isn't the gnome-panel installed after that?
[22:19] <escott> engammalsko, there is no gnome-panel. there is gnome3 and gnome3-fallback. what you know of as the "panel" is gone
[22:20] <engammalsko> escott: You can install gnome 2.
[22:20] <escott> engammalsko, no you cannot
[22:23] <Lunar_Lander> so
[22:23] <Lunar_Lander> does someone use arduino too?
[22:24] <escott> engammalsko, if you really want gnome2 and the customizable panel then you either need to check out gnome3 extensions or start looking for a different desktop environment or distribution. if you have some question about how gnome3 works let us know what it is
[22:26] <neersighted> escott: What is the .Xauth anyways?
[22:26]  * neersighted is mostly a command line guy
[22:26] <neersighted> Can i delete it and let it regen?
[22:26] <Diranged> nevermind, nscd was installed (ugh). uninstalled, made life happy
[22:27] <escott> neersighted, like what are its contents? its contents are an MIT-Magic cookie. ie a random string. before drawing a window the X server verifies that the client meets some restrictions, and has the proper magic cookie for that screen. this prevents a random user from popping windows up on a screen used by another person in a multi-user system
[22:27] <neersighted> oic
[22:27] <escott> neersighted, you can logout of X and then delete the file, and it should be regenerated
[22:27] <neersighted> can i delete it? oh
[22:27] <neersighted> log in as another user?
[22:27] <neersighted> and sudo rm it?
[22:28] <neersighted> or just stop x?
[22:29] <yarlo> hola ubuntu
[22:29] <neersighted> hai!
[22:29] <yarlo> alguin me puede ayudar
[22:30] <escott> !es | yarlo
[22:30] <engammalsko> escott: http://superbfish.com/fish.png
[22:30] <yarlo> perfecto
[22:30] <neersighted> lol ubottu
[22:30] <neersighted> lololol
[22:30] <engammalsko> escott: That's gnome 2 on 11.10. The clock is placed weird and there is no show desktop nor a trash can.
[22:31] <escott> engammalsko, there is no gnome2 on 11.10. that looks like fallback, and it looks normal
[22:31] <neersighted> escott: http://ubuntuguide.net/add-a-grub2-entry-for-ubuntu-booting-into-consolecommand-line
[22:31] <neersighted> how do i add this with the custom entry menu
[22:31] <engammalsko> escott: Okay then I got it wrong I guess. Can i make fallback look like gnome 2?
[22:32] <neersighted> i dont want to have to manually change it every update-grub
[22:32] <escott> neersighted, since you are using burg I dont know. if you were using grub it would be a change to the line in /etc/default/grub and then run update-grub
[22:32] <neersighted> grub is the seame
[22:32] <neersighted> *burg is the same
[22:32] <neersighted> its virtually identical
[22:32] <escott> engammalsko, not really. gnome3 is not intended to be as configuratble
[22:32] <neersighted> uses the same config syntax
[22:32] <ChTiPowA> Hey guys, i need help for transcoding FLAC to AAC with truncating silence feature and normalize volume :)
[22:33] <neersighted> escott: But i dont want my only option to be CLI, then i could just change the default paramters from quiet splash to text
[22:33] <ChTiPowA> as Dbpoweramp in Windows =)
[22:33] <neersighted> escott: i want it to dynamicly generate a entry for CLI
[22:33] <neersighted> ie
[22:33] <neersighted> Ubuntu, Ubuntu recovory, Ubuntu cli, and Windoze
[22:33] <escott> neersighted, so look at /etc/grub.d those scripts generate the options. you could add one that inserts text but copies everything else
[22:33] <neersighted> thats what im trying to do :p
[22:34] <neersighted> it looks like a shell script
[22:34] <neersighted> but i do not know which part tio copy
[22:34] <neersighted> want me to pastie it?
[22:34] <escott> neersighted, so there are multiple scripts each creates a part of the file. they are executed in order by the number prefix of the filename
[22:34] <neersighted> escott: http://pastie.org/2982983
[22:34] <neersighted> escott: i know that
[22:34] <neersighted> this is 10_linux
[22:35] <potatoe> I just replaced an ATI AGP card with an NVIDIA card. Now my X freezes. I am running 11.10 and have no xorg.conf. Please advise
[22:35]  * Benkinooby just found out about the aptitude search pattern and that they are stored in /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README - wohoo!
[22:36] <Laurenceb_> hi
[22:36] <mashed_potatoes> I think it was my input device that stopped working, unhappy coincidence :)
[22:36] <Laurenceb_> how do i view my webcam?
[22:36] <Laurenceb_> cheese
[22:36] <Laurenceb_> libv4l2: error setting pixformat: Device or resource busy Segmentation fault
[22:37] <styelz> you orgot the gravy!
[22:37] <styelz> f
[22:38] <lifebird> irc chat.. this brings back memories of when I was first learning about *nix
[22:38] <escott> neersighted, so copy 10_linux to 11_linux_cli and then modify the line that is follows cat << EOF with linux ${rel_dirname}/${basename} root=${linux_root...} ro ${args} to have "text" after args
[22:38] <lifebird> anyway, evenin' folks
[22:38] <neersighted> kk
[22:39] <medotyou> I'm new to linux but loving it tremendously!\
[22:39] <medotyou> learning about using dig to query name servers
[22:40] <lifebird> nice! personally, I'm scratching my head over the new 'dash' in version 11.10
[22:40] <Bilange> i believe that my routing for a ubuntu box is broken-- i can connect (HTTP/SSH) to that box but no TCP replies is sent back to the client. where/what would I need to check from that point? anything I could try to reset?
[22:40] <demosfar> hi...i have 2 problems....first is that my wireless broadcom 43227 don't work on my new lubuntu 11.10...any idea how to solv that?
[22:40] <escott> neersighted, actually a better way to do this is to emulate the other calls to "linux_entry" see the lines that say linux_entry ${OS} ${version} true \ single nomodeset ${GRUB_CMDLINE__LINUX}
[22:41] <neersighted> ?
[22:41] <Benkinooby> demosfar, first try is jockey-gtk
[22:41] <neersighted> line 147?
[22:41] <demosfar> and 2nd problem is about bluetooth...how can i see if i have bluetooth adapter or not? //i am not that big noob, but i don't have it in windows 7, but when lubuntu is starting, i see 'start bluetooth - ok'...
[22:42] <neersighted> could you give me a version with a third menu enrty?
[22:42] <demosfar> i already tried with broadcom STA drivers...didn't work
[22:42] <neersighted> is that what you mean?
[22:42] <lifebird> Bilange: what exactly are you trying to do? run a http server (and ssh server)?
[22:42] <wmoss> Hi all. I'm trying to install ubuntu on my MBA, and following the tutorial on help.ubuntu.com. The problem is that when I try to boot from the USB stick, my screen just shows "Boot Error." Anyone seen that before? Or know how to get it to boot?
[22:42] <Benkinooby> demosfar, the STA driver should do the trick.. did you reboot?
[22:42] <escott> neersighted, its in a couple places. linux_entry is a function that makes an entry, so you can just call it but with text ${GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX}
[22:42] <neersighted> O_o
[22:42] <neersighted> I don't get what you mean
[22:43] <demosfar> yes...
[22:43] <demosfar> Benkinooby, yes i did
[22:43] <neersighted> is there already a function to get a cli?
[22:43] <neersighted> i just need to call it?
[22:43] <Bilange> lifebird: yeah, apache2 and sshd with pretty much defaults settings, bar some vhosts on the apache2 aprt
[22:43] <Bilange> part*
[22:43] <neersighted> escott: Could you help me make it?
[22:43]  * neersighted is so confus
[22:43] <escott> neersighted, so line 231,232,233 makes the normal entry
[22:43] <Benkinooby> demosfar, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[22:44] <neersighted> 231?
[22:44] <neersighted> There is no 231?
[22:44] <escott> neersighted, so just change that around to say "text" before "quiet" on line 233
[22:44] <neersighted> kk
[22:44] <demosfar> Benkinooby, I read all that and did everything what's wrote there..but still no help..
[22:44] <escott> neersighted, my file may be different from yours
[22:45] <lifebird> Bilange: sounds like an issue with 'listen' directive or firewall to me. have you verified that the services are working locally? (ie. on the local host)?
[22:45] <Benkinooby> demosfar, then i'm out of advice... sorry :(
[22:45] <neersighted> http://pastie.org/2982983
[22:45] <neersighted> that's mine
[22:45] <neersighted> can i just add a third menu option?
[22:46] <demosfar> Benkinooby, ok...thnx anyway
[22:46] <Bilange> lifebird: confirming HTTP is listening and replying over 127.0.0.1, and i can also ssh 127.0.0.1-- to my knowledge (I didnt build the box), this one shouldnt have a firewall built in however
[22:47] <Bilange> lifebird: or rather, no "installed" firewall in other words
[22:47] <neersighted> oh i have a idea
[22:47] <neersighted> escott: let me pastie it quick
[22:49] <lifebird> Bilange: I'm guessing this is all going through a LAN, but using a home-based router (eg. D-Link/Linksys)
[22:49] <demosfar> how to check if my laptop has bluetooth adapter?
[22:49] <mosx1> hi, will a newly installed ubuntu server respond to ping  from another machine on lan ?
[22:50] <mosx1> or should it rather? it isn't currently though i can pick out from the server.
[22:50] <Bilange> lifebird: actually no (and this is where its slighty complicated): eth0 on LAN, eth1 on WAN (static IP given by the ISP), LAN has also its IP statically given
[22:52] <lifebird> Bilange: ah... so you're using NAT on the same box that's serving http and ssh. /now/ it's getting a little more involved. I'm at a loss at this point, but shooting in the dark, I'd examine your ipnat and ipf config
[22:52] <totesmuhgoats> so if i do apt-get update; apt-get upgrade, it should fetch all the packages that the update notifier tells me about right?
[22:53] <escott> totesmuhgoats, usually. it will notify you if there are some upgrades it cannot do right now
[22:53] <Bilange> lifebird: actually, i didnt need NAT on that setup (net.ipv4.ip_forward=0 here), i would only need http and ssh to behave normally on both adapters
[22:53] <totesmuhgoats> escott: ah, i was just wondering because the notifier popped up the other day after i had done it a few minutes before and apt-get showed no updates. I guess the notifier was just working off of old information
[22:54] <lifebird> Bilange: I'm drawing a blank at this point then, sorry. :(
[22:54] <Bilange> lifebird: no worries :)
[22:55] <matin> hi guys
[22:56] <matin> does anyone know a really good/simple ubuntu server setup tutorial?
[22:56] <matin> preferably with git or subversion included
[22:57] <bastidrazor> matin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers
[22:57] <lifebird> Ubuntu 11.10 dash - Has any body figured out how to 'inform' the dash about software you've installed manually? eg. I installed TeamSpeak 3 into a personal folder, but the "Dash" can't find it. I have to go to the folder and manually open it each time. Not a huge deal for one program, but Dash seems a little limited and constricting.
[22:57] <lifebird> any ideas?
[22:57] <escott> !info alacarte | lifebird
[22:57] <matin> ok thanks bastidrazor
[22:58] <lifebird> sweet, thanks ubottu
[22:58] <bastidrazor> matin: in the search bar you search for other things you wish to know..
[22:58] <Lars_G> Just hoping I'm lucky, StrangeWill is not here under a different nickname, right?
[22:58] <matin> does anyone know the difference between a lamp server & highly available lamp server
[22:59] <matin> bastidrazor, i tried following some other tutorials and they failed miserably
[22:59] <matin> oh nvm my last question
[23:02] <neersighted> Guys, will this boot?
[23:02] <neersighted> http://pastie.org/2983100
[23:02] <neersighted> The custom entry at line 58
[23:03] <lifebird> ubottu: online tutorials talk about 'alacarte' as "main menu" and assume you've already got it installed. It all makes sense now. thanks again.
[23:03] <neersighted> ubottu: oh really now?
[23:03] <lifebird> haha
[23:03] <lifebird> too funny
[23:03] <neersighted> :)
[23:04] <Benkinooby> !bot
[23:04] <lifebird> ubottu: what is the meaning of life?
[23:04] <lifebird> ol
[23:04] <lifebird> lol
[23:04] <neersighted> !thegame
[23:04] <neersighted> awwww
[23:04] <Benkinooby> !c++
[23:04] <Benkinooby> !debian
[23:04] <Benkinooby> !windows
[23:04] <neersighted> windoze!
[23:05] <neersighted> My grub says
[23:05] <Spankbot> oh i love windows
[23:05] <Benkinooby> !gates
[23:05] <trism> !msgthebot
[23:05] <Benkinooby> oh!, sorry
[23:05] <neersighted> "Macrosoft Windoze PX (un)Professional"
[23:05] <neersighted> XD
[23:05] <ikonia> ok, enough Windows jokes
[23:05] <neersighted> :p
[23:06] <neersighted> Can anyone see if this will owkr?
[23:06] <neersighted> *work
[23:06] <neersighted> for grub
[23:06] <neersighted> Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot (CLI)
[23:06] <neersighted> derp
[23:06] <FloodBot1> neersighted: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:06] <neersighted> let me get hte link
[23:06] <neersighted> ...
[23:06] <wayne87ae> Anybody know anything about computers here
[23:06] <Spankbot> Anyone use Mythbuntu?
[23:06] <neersighted> Ironic much?
[23:06] <neersighted> I got quietd as i was getting a pastie url
[23:06] <ikonia> wayne87ae: this channels for ubuntu support, general hardware try ##hardware channel
[23:07] <wayne87ae> #hardware
[23:07] <neersighted> http://pastie.org/2983121
[23:07] <ikonia> wayne87ae: ##hardware (note ##)
[23:07] <neersighted> line ~58
[23:07] <manisabri_> Hi...Any Idea why I'm stuck with unity2d in spite of choosing unity3d? 11.04 AMD64 onboard 4250 graphics
[23:07] <Spankbot> I'm run Windows 7 Ult w/ Media Center, have the Ceton TV Tuner card and read where Ceton released Linux drivers.  This may get succulent for some.
[23:08] <JoeMigal123> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[23:08] <ikonia> Spankbot: sorry, what's your question ?
[23:08] <ikonia> JoeMigal123: please don't post offtopic links
[23:08] <Spankbot> ikonia >> any Mythbuntu users?
[23:08] <JoeMigal123> sry
[23:08] <ikonia> Spankbot: try #mythbuntu
[23:08] <neersighted> Anyone?
[23:08] <styelz> Spankbot: i do, but using hdhomerun
[23:08] <Spankbot> #mythbuntu... dead
[23:09] <ikonia> Spankbot: that's where the majority of users hang out
[23:09] <styelz> Spankbot: try #mythtv-users
[23:09] <ikonia> that's just for myth issues
[23:09] <Spankbot> styelz: are you going to try getting Ceton to work?
[23:09] <ikonia> they don't support the distros
[23:09] <styelz> oh
[23:11] <styelz> Spankbot: no
[23:14] <agentgasmask> Hi all. I'm setting up an mdadm array, and it installs postfix by default. The box has direct internet access, but it has no domain name. I've sellected "internet site" in the first page of the setup screen. What should I enter for the "System mail name"?
[23:14] <ikonia> agentgasmask: just use it's localhost
[23:14] <ubuntu_> I loaded 9.10 this morning on an old Dell Precision with built-in wireless receiver and it auto-detected my network and worked perfectly.  I immediately upgraded to the latest long-term supported version of Ubuntu, and now my wireless functionality is impaired.  It detects networks fine, but can't connect to them.  I'm connecting now via 9.10 run off the CD, so the hardware isn't an issue.
[23:14] <ikonia> agentgasmask: you are not planning to send mail over the internet are you
[23:15] <agentgasmask> ikonia: I would like to. That way I will know if a drive goes down even if I'm out of the office.
[23:15] <ikonia> agentgasmask: then you'll need a FQDN for your host
[23:16] <manisabri_> Any Idea why I'm stuck with unity2d in spite of choosing unity3d before logging in? 11.04 AMD64 onboard 4250 graphics
[23:16] <agentgasmask> ikonia: as in somthing official? or just make something up?
[23:16] <neersighted> daf*ck
[23:16] <ikonia> manisabri_: that situation is normally a fall back if your card's 3d is not working
[23:16] <neersighted> root owned mu .Xathority
[23:16] <ikonia> agentgasmask: yes,
[23:16] <neersighted> *my
[23:16] <neersighted> thats why i was so derp
[23:16]  * neersighted shakes his head
[23:17] <ikonia> agentgasmask: when you send mails a lot of mail servers will check the reverse dns as part of the mail RFC
[23:17] <manisabri_> ikonia_ hmmm. it was working allright let me check some 3d stuff
[23:17] <neersighted> can anyone help me validate some grub code?
[23:18] <tsvenson> Evening guys. I'm trying to find info about if/when there will be an update of the Rack's package for Ubuntu 11.10. Need that to be able to install latest Redmine version. Failed finding it so far so any pointers to where such info is available would be appreciated.
[23:18] <mdel> here's a unixy question
[23:19] <neersighted> http://pastie.org/2983121
[23:19] <SlowBait> hi, i have the 32-bit version and i need the 64-bit one
[23:19] <neersighted> can anyone checdk this?
[23:19] <mdel> can I redirect the exit code for a command?
[23:19] <SlowBait> is there any way to do it without a CD?
[23:19] <neersighted> mdel
[23:19] <neersighted> yes
[23:19] <ikonia> tsvenson: the racks package ?
[23:19] <neersighted> $? is the exit code of the last command
[23:19] <ikonia> SlowBait: you need to re-install
[23:19] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all.  Is there a way to log and then graph system /hardware performance on my Ubuntu server so that I can view it later/remotely?
[23:19] <mdel> my usecase: im trying to run a command like "cd /path && killall -q proc && do other stuff"
[23:20] <mdel> i don't care if nothing was killed though, and I want other stuff to run
[23:20] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: look at cacti
[23:20] <neersighted> cat /dev/null | if [ ! $? -eq 0 ]; then echo error; fi
[23:20] <mdel> neersighted: ytmnd
[23:20] <SlowBait> ikonia: can I Install it from ubuntu?
[23:20] <neersighted> ytmnd?
[23:20] <manisabri_> ikonia uh, supertuxkart is not working , it was good before! do I need to reinstall the graphic drivers after kernel update?
[23:20] <ikonia> SlowBait: install what ?
[23:20] <SlowBait> ikonia: I dont have access to the CD
[23:20] <neersighted> SlowBait: You need to Reinstall
[23:20] <neersighted> Torrent one
[23:20] <neersighted> Then burn it
[23:20] <mdel> neersighted: http://ytmnd.com/
[23:20] <ikonia> SlowBait: you need to download the 64bit installer
[23:20] <escott> neersighted, so that looks like it would create a valid menuentry, but it would make more sense to run it and then look at the generated file
[23:20] <tsvenson> ikonia: I suppose. The current one is v1.1.0, but Redmine 1.2.x needs v1.1.1.
[23:20] <ikonia> !install | SlowBait
[23:21] <neersighted> escott: kk
[23:21]  * neersighted runs update-burg
[23:21] <ikonia> manisabri_: are you using the additional drivers tool ? or did you install drivers from the vendors website
[23:21] <manisabri_> ikonia I installed the latest drivers from AMD website.
[23:22] <ikonia> manisabri_: then you have made a problem for youself
[23:22] <ubuntu_> I guess I'll try the reinstall method. I didn't do jack in terms of driver installs, though.  So weird.
[23:22] <ikonia> manisabri_: you'll need to re-install
[23:22] <JokesOnYou77> ikonia: cacti does look interesting, but it also looks like its primarily for network statistics, I'm looking for RAM use and CPU as well
[23:22] <ikonia> manisabri_: I suggest you just use the hardware drivers tool to enable supported drivers
[23:22] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: you can graph anything you want
[23:23] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: it works great for cpu/ram
[23:23] <escott> mdel, if you dont care if nothing is killed then don't use && use ;
[23:23] <manisabri_> ikonia: reinstall the drivers ? or the whole system ???
[23:23] <mdel> escott: ah, right. thank you as well
[23:23] <kilian_> Hi, I have a problem with missing GLX
[23:23] <kilian_> am I in the right place?
[23:24] <ikonia> manisabri_: the drivers
[23:24] <Butters> Hey guys, this isn't ubuntu related but I need help very badly with an html
[23:24] <SlowBait> ikonia: sry, anyway that does not require a CD, USB or Network capabilities?
[23:24] <Butters> html/css website that is due in two days. I'm willing to pay for the help
[23:24] <manisabri_> ikonia: woooh . tnx : )
[23:24] <Butters> please pm me if you are interested
[23:24] <ikonia> SlowBait: no
[23:24] <ikonia> Butters: please don't ask for offtopic help, try #html
[23:24] <Butters> thanks
[23:25] <tbruff13> hey is the release cycle for Edubntu is it the same as the one for ubuntu is 10.04 still the last LTS release
[23:25] <JokesOnYou77> ikonia: That's cool.  It does look a bit more intensive set up than I'm interested in tho for my tiny home server on an old Dell (I don't really know how to use SQL yet)
[23:25] <ikonia> tsvenson: supposed to be
[23:25] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: look at "sar"
[23:25] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: you can then use any graphing tools such as graphviz
[23:25] <neersighted> escott: the .Xauth was because root owned my file lol
[23:26] <escott> neersighted, thats why you are supposed to use gksudo. i thought you have checked that when you looked at the permissions
[23:26]  * neersighted forgot to look
[23:26] <neersighted> :p
[23:26] <neersighted> i did use gksudo lol
[23:26] <neersighted> dksudo failed, but sudo worked
[23:26] <neersighted> *gk
[23:26] <neersighted> escott:
[23:26] <neersighted> derp
[23:27] <neersighted> escott: http://pastie.org/2983190
[23:27] <FloodBot1> neersighted: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:27] <tsvenson> ikonia: Thing is I would like to avoid customizing the 1.1.3 version of Redmine if running the 1.2.2 version is just around the corner. Any idea where I can find that info about Rack for Ruby?
[23:27] <neersighted> tempermental middle mouse button
[23:27] <manisabri_> ikonia: is there any way to uninstall the vendor drivers? can I install the ubuntu drivers without uninstalling this one?
[23:27] <davyde> hi i have a problem with mkv file.. i can hear nice background sounds but not the speech anyone know something?
[23:27] <JokesOnYou77> ikonia: Nice!  This looks very cool. I can probably pop this into a spreadsheet or Mathematica as well
[23:27] <neersighted> ping me please someone?
[23:27] <ikonia> tsvenson: I wouldnt count on package updates
[23:28] <ChTiPowA> hi, anyone know how to use libmediainfo after being installed ?
[23:28] <escott> neersighted, well sudo worked and then the xauth file got chowned. gksudo knows not to do that
[23:28] <neersighted> :p
[23:28] <neersighted> oic
[23:28] <neersighted> escott: Is that a bootable file?
[23:28] <escott> neersighted, so there is only one entry there, and your text entry is not showing up
[23:29] <neersighted> O_o
[23:29]  * neersighted looks
[23:29] <tsvenson> ikonia: I'm a newbie on Ubuntu so not ready to go wild just yet :)
[23:29] <escott> neersighted, most likely you have a syntax error in your generated file and so it suddenly stopped executing or something
[23:29] <neersighted> oh, i need to chmod it
[23:29] <neersighted> d'oh
[23:29] <engammalsko> When you klick program from the unity dashboard, there's a black transparent window with all icons. Is there a command to open that window in gnome-fallback?
[23:29] <engammalsko> click*
[23:30] <escott> neersighted, also your script has the version hardcoded which is why you should use the provided function
[23:30] <escott> neersighted, when you update your kernel you won't get a new cli entry
[23:30] <neersighted> okay
[23:30] <neersighted> idk how to add it lol
[23:31] <neersighted> I didn't like the original labels
[23:31]  * neersighted tinkes with it
[23:31] <escott> engammalsko, the whole part of gnome fallback is to not have the unity dash or gnome-shell expose
[23:31] <escott> engammalsko, gnome fallback is there to approximate the old gnome-panel layout
[23:32] <Folklore> is ls only way to list files?
[23:32] <engammalsko> escott: I know. I just wondered if I could open it in the terminal.
[23:32] <ikonia> Folklore: it is the correct way
[23:32] <escott> neersighted, recopy 10_linux. delete lines 234-242. on line 231 make it "CLI ${version}" instead of "${version}". on 233 add "text" before quiet
[23:32] <Folklore> how cna I list users
[23:32] <Folklore> on the bo
[23:33] <Folklore> x
[23:33] <neersighted> kk
[23:33] <ikonia> Folklore: the user admin gui is the best way
[23:33] <neersighted> 234?
[23:33] <neersighted> you mean 134/
[23:33] <neersighted> can you do it?
[23:33] <Folklore> iknonia whats the cmd
[23:33] <neersighted> I am so confused here
[23:33] <Folklore> to list logged in users
[23:33] <ikonia> Folklore: "w"
[23:34] <sskalnik> Folklore, who
[23:34] <sskalnik> Folklore, that or "w"
[23:35] <escott> neersighted, no i mean 234. my file might be different from yours. paste your 10_linux and I can adjust the numbers
[23:35] <Folklore> dangit, had admin help me with vps and he's still just chillen on the box
[23:35] <Folklore> :(
[23:35] <engammalsko> escott: How do I add System to the panel?
[23:35] <escott> engammalsko, what do you mean "add System"?
[23:35] <tbruff13> Can anyone tell me if the ubuntu release dates are the same as edubuntu
[23:36] <engammalsko> escott: To the menu in the top left with "Program" and "Places"
[23:36] <Juayz> is there ubuntu support for Malay Brunei ?
[23:36] <ikonia> tbruff13: yes, they are
[23:36] <ikonia> tbruff13: (they are supposed to be)
[23:36] <escott> engammalsko, you can't
[23:36] <engammalsko> escott: Argh.
[23:36] <neersighted> this is what i have
[23:36] <neersighted> escott: http://pastie.org/2983237
[23:37] <escott> neersighted, ditch what you have. its not good. recopy 10_linux, and we can modify that
[23:37] <neersighted> kk
[23:37]  * neersighted resotres his backup
[23:37] <Jordan_U> escott: neersighted: There are a lot of issues with editing anything in /etc/grub.d/, it's almost certainly not worth it to do so.
[23:37] <neersighted> Trying to add a CLI version
[23:37] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all.  I'm running a remote server for downloading large files and torrents, and after setting up the transmission Web UI and starting a large download I've lost the ability to connect to the server.  This has happened before with the connection restored once the download was complete.  What I want to know is if this was because of bandwidth or RAM
[23:37] <escott> Jordan_U, as long as he creates a new file that isn't in the apt why should it be a problem
[23:38] <neersighted> Jordan_U: Do i get any advantage if X starts at boot or can i say "screw it," and start CLI by default, and start X with service lightdm start
[23:38] <escott> Jordan_U, seems that copying 10_linux to 11_linux_cli would be the appropriate way to deal with this
[23:38] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: you won't know until you can get onto the machine to check
[23:39] <neersighted> there, fresh 11_linux
[23:39] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: I suspect it will be bandwidth eating your network and ssh responding too slow to login
[23:39]  * neersighted makes is 11_linux-cli
[23:39] <ikonia> ok, can we give the /me command a rest place
[23:39] <ikonia> don't need a running commentory
[23:39] <joli> hi
[23:39] <neersighted> okay?
[23:40] <neersighted> ...
[23:40] <joli> is it normal for xorg server to run as root?
[23:40] <Jordan_U> escott: Because 10_linux depends on functions in grub-mkconfig_lib whose semantics may change, and any mistake can break kernel updates even without that.
[23:41] <neersighted> escott: I'm not changeing 10_linux
[23:41] <neersighted> *Jordan_U
[23:41] <escott> Jordan_U, well thats pretty much true of hooking into anything in /etc. for all we know /etc/default/grub might be completely replaced tomorrow
[23:41] <neersighted> I'm using it as a base, but hardcoding all but kernel version
[23:41] <neersighted> Burg FTW!
[23:41] <JokesOnYou77> ikonia: Ok, that was my suspicion as well.  But this didn't happen when I didn't have the web UI stuff set up. I'll try capping the bandwidth at a lower speed and see if that helps.  I'm trying to figure out if I need to upgrade the RAM since it has less than 1G. But maybe it's just the bandwidth
[23:42] <JokesOnYou77> neersighted: Agreed, I love Burg
[23:42] <neersighted> <3
[23:42] <neersighted> It bascily grub with a facelift though
[23:42] <neersighted> all the same internals
[23:43] <JokesOnYou77> I know, it's perfect.  I don't have to relearn how to configure it, and it looks pretty
[23:43] <neersighted> <3
[23:43] <neersighted> JokesOnYou77: Can you help me make a custom CLI menu entry?
[23:44] <JokesOnYou77> neersighted: probably not. lol.  Describe exactly what it is you want to do.
[23:44] <neersighted> I want to have the same paramters as my regualr boot
[23:45] <neersighted> but with the options text quiet
[23:45] <escott> neersighted, if you'll just paste.ubuntu.com your 10_linux I'll make the changes and paste them right back to you
[23:45] <neersighted> instad of splash quit
[23:45] <neersighted> I could just edit my grub.cfg
[23:45] <neersighted> but i want it to dynamicly generate
[23:46] <Jordan_U> escott: neersighted: Though as loas long as you know to delete your file if anything goes wrong I guess there is no harm.
[23:46]  * neersighted has 2 backups
[23:46] <neersighted> :p
[23:46] <neersighted> plus i can chainload into grub from burg if i f*ck it up
[23:46] <neersighted> :p
[23:46] <neersighted> advantage of two bootloaders
[23:46] <JokesOnYou77> neersighted: yeah, I got nothing :P
[23:46]  * pp7 wonders why neersighted has such a fascination with "/me"
[23:46] <JokesOnYou77> you can do that?
[23:47] <JokesOnYou77> that's awesome
[23:47] <neersighted> i sometimes talk in thrid person
[23:47] <neersighted> irl habbit lol
[23:47] <pp7> lol
[23:47] <neersighted> I can be a little...ecentric?
[23:48] <pp7> is that a question?
[23:48] <neersighted> http://pastie.org/2983281
[23:48] <neersighted> its me looking for a way to describe myslef
[23:50]  * neersighted should connect with his awesome hostname
[23:50] <escott> neersighted, is that your original 10_linux. its missing a lot of stuff?
[23:50] <digdeep> hi, I mount a windows network drive. the path is smb://domain;username@xxx.xx.xxx.com/bla/blka. I want to see it in filezilla. So can I do cd smb://domain;username@xxx.xx.xxx.com/bla/blka
[23:50] <ks07> Hey guys, mdadm won't add a new partition, as it says it is too small, but it looks big enough to me...
[23:50] <neersighted> escott: yep?
[23:50] <neersighted> escott: it boots, it seems intact to me
[23:50] <neersighted> want the config it gens?
[23:50] <pp7> neersighted: stop using question marks senselessly
[23:50] <neersighted> that was a question
[23:51] <ks07> sfdisk -s /dev/sdb2 == 1677721600 and df reports that the raid partition is 1664504324
[23:51] <pp7> neersighted: "escott: yep?"
[23:51] <neersighted> basicly saying that yep? so that is, whats teh problem
[23:51] <neersighted> that's what i ment
[23:52] <neersighted> if you can imagine the tone of voic
[23:52] <neersighted> *voice
[23:52] <escott> neersighted, it seems to be missing some of the other boot options. but in any case i think you want this http://paste.ubuntu.com/763296/
[23:52] <neersighted> escott: yeah, i disabled recovery, but what is it missing?
[23:53] <neersighted> i have the headers, linux, os_prober, memtest and custom
[23:53] <escott> neersighted, thats probably it then. the disabled recovery. it just looks different from mine
[23:53] <sajuukthanatoskh> hey guys, I upgraded to 11.10 and I can't get my graphics resolution up to what it was in 10.10.  My drivers were setup so that I could do two screens at 1920x1080 and 1280x(!800)1024?  Anyway the driver doesn't detect how big the screen can go and its causing me a little frustration.  My graphics controller is a Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller.
[23:53] <neersighted> :p
[23:53] <neersighted> cross your fingars
[23:53] <phix> hey gang!
[23:53] <pp7> sajuukthanatoskh: upgrades hardly ever work in my experience.  tried installing from scratch?
[23:54] <digdeep> or at least, how I can see the content of a windows network drive in command line
[23:54] <Juayz> is there support for Malay Brunei language in ubuntu?
[23:54] <sajuukthanatoskh> pp7, I don't really want to :\  its a giant hassle getting my settings working again for my uni internet for wireless
[23:55] <pp7> digdeep: mount smb://blahblah <dir> ?
[23:55] <phix> pp7: you dont need the smb:, just // if you have smbfs installed
[23:55] <pp7> phix: even better then :P
[23:55] <neersighted> do i replace 10_linux?
[23:55] <neersighted> or add this to 11_linux-cli
[23:55] <neersighted> but then will i get dupe'd entries?
[23:57] <neersighted> escott?
[23:57] <escott> neersighted, no dont replace it. you should run diff 10_linux 11_linux-cli and understand the different, then leave both. they will both create menu entries for you
[23:57] <sajuukthanatoskh> pp7, you think a reformat and new ubuntu setup is the way to go then?  What if my video drivers still don't work?
[23:57] <pp7> sajuukthanatoskh: totally
[23:57] <pp7> sajuukthanatoskh: they should do if they worked before
[23:57] <neersighted> will this boot?
[23:57] <neersighted> http://pastie.org/2983332
[23:58] <pp7> neersighted: make a backup and try it :P
[23:58] <neersighted> :p
[23:58] <sajuukthanatoskh> pp7, I sorta remember having to do something with my drivers on this laptop cos it had a weird screen size and such
[23:58]  * neersighted gets ready to reboot
[23:58] <neersighted> im tweak the code a little
[23:58] <neersighted> version number is not showing up
[23:58] <neersighted> brb
[23:59] <escott> neersighted, the prefix headers are missing for the grub.cfg, but the entries look ok
[23:59] <neersighted> i ommited them
[23:59] <neersighted> :p