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bdmurrayI'm in the process of fixing bug 898721.  The correct path is kde4-profile is that right?00:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 898721 in casper (Ubuntu) "Casper can't disable reboot notifications on kubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89872100:54
bdmurraymaco: are you around?00:57
JontheEchidnathat should be the right path, yes01:00
bdmurrayJontheEchidna: okay, thanks01:02
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* debfx starts packaging the icon tasks applet11:59
jussidebfx: icon tasks applet? 12:05
debfxjussi: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Icon+Tasks?content=14480812:06
debfxbasically the unity launcher for kde12:06
jussiooh, cool. 12:06
debfxoh, it's part of kdeplasma-addons 4.812:12
jussiyou know, I find it slightly suprising no one has written a light weight de in Qt. is Qt really that heavy? 12:13
agateaujussi: you mean, something like unity-2d? ;)13:04
* agateau hides13:04
jussiagateau: hehe, I suppose....13:04
* jussi pours water on agateau13:04
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* ScottK pokes at yofel for test results.14:54
macobdmurray: i'm around now...15:25
maco(i dont tend to sign on at all when i'm at home anymore, btw)15:25
bdmurraymaco: its okay I found an answer15:33
bolo56hi16:05
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agateauScottK: ping16:32
ScottKagateau: pong16:32
agateauScottK: hi, I finally found time to look into the license issues with massif-visualizer, I'd like to check with you I am doing it correctly if you don't mind16:33
ScottKagateau: Fire away.16:33
agateaugreat!16:33
agateauso the first issue is that most of the code is LGPL 2.0 but the top COPYING file is for the GPL 2.016:34
agateauso I think I should replace the COPYING file with the correct license16:34
agateau(I am talking about fixing this upstream btw)16:34
agateaunow that I wrote it, that one looks like a no-brainer :)16:34
ScottKagateau: You need a full copy of all licenses used in the package, so IIRC it'll need both.16:35
ScottKAlso there are specific file references in the code copy and so I think those files should exist (if only as symlinks) in addition to the top level COPYING files.16:36
agateauScottK: actually the only code which is GPL is from libkdchart,16:36
ScottKOK.16:36
agateauScottK: and since the copyright header mentions files named LICENSE.GPL2 and LICENSE.GPL3,16:37
agateauI was thinking of adding those in the kdchart/ dir16:37
ScottKThat sounds good.16:37
agateauthen we have one last tricky couple of files,16:37
agateaucode borrowed from Qt itself16:37
agateauScottK: https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/sdk/massif-visualizer/repository/revisions/master/entry/test/modeltest.cpp16:38
agateauthis code is LGPL 2.1 and mentions a file named LGPL_EXCEPTION.txt, which is missing16:38
ScottKThat's very tricky.16:38
ScottKIt's internally inconsistent too.16:39
ScottKLine 10 "** No Commercial Usage" makes it non-free.16:39
agateauyes I saw that one16:39
ScottKWhere did you get the code from?16:39
agateaubut then it says "Alternatively..." in line 1716:39
ScottKOK16:40
ScottKThat takes care of the problem.16:40
ScottKSo you need to find this LGPL_EXCEPTION.txt and include it.16:40
agateauok16:41
agateauat the top-level or in the test/ dir?16:41
agateauI found it, it's in qt source code (unsurprisingly)16:43
agateauScottK: I am going to copy both  LGPL_EXCEPTION.txt and LICENSE.LGPL to the dir where this file is kept, does it sound good?16:45
ScottKYes16:45
agateauScottK: great, thanks!16:45
agateauI am wondering if all packages are usually that tricky or I just picked a painful one to get started16:46
agateauScottK: one last question: if I commit the changes upstream, can I include these changes in the package as a patch or should I generate a new tarball myself?16:48
ScottKIt's OK to patch them in for now.16:48
agateauok, that makes my life a bit simpler :)16:48
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yofelScottK: what was the original problem with soprano? Or should I just test if new soprano adds any new breakage?16:57
ScottKSupposed to fix all the Nepomuk issues in combination with 4.7.3.16:57
ScottK(it's changelog gives specifics)16:57
ScottKKnowning about general breakage is important too16:58
Riddelltsk, emacs keeps freezing and won't let me edit anything17:20
nigelbUse vim :P17:20
agateauScottK: just uploaded new package to revu17:24
ScottKRiddell: That's only becuase editing isn't one of it's primary functions.  Too many other things for it to do.17:25
ScottKagateau: Great.  I'll try and look at it later today (not sure I'll have time though)17:25
agateauScottK: ok thanks17:26
nigelbScottK: heh, good one ;)17:27
Riddellbah, no sympathy around here!17:27
* agateau hugs Riddell17:27
Riddelldebfx: looks like rekonq is ok to sync from debian17:28
agateautime to go for me, bye17:28
debfxRiddell: it depends. at some point all kubuntu patches got dropped without mentioning it in the changelog so I assume it was an accident17:30
Quintasanbloody hell, installing with Ubuntu with mouse only is impossible17:37
* Quintasan can't type his username in17:37
nigelbQuintasan: onscreen keyboard?17:40
ScottKUse the mouse to copy/paste characters off the screen.17:40
Quintasannigelb: How on Earth I am supposed to enable it?17:40
QuintasanScottK: Nothing to copy from :/17:40
ScottKOK.17:41
Quintasannigelb: In before system settings17:41
QuintasanI enabled it there and nothing shows up17:41
nigelbQuintasan: Are you on accessible install?17:41
nigelbThere should be something for accessibility17:41
Quintasan*shrug*17:41
nigelbI'd be surprised if there isn't.17:41
QuintasanNo idea, I have the arm image for i.mx17:41
QuintasanIt's like 900mb17:42
nigelbaha, we have an isntaller hacker among us!17:42
* nigelb pokes maco17:42
macowe do?17:42
* maco looks around17:42
macothere's no accessibility stuff in kubuntu's installer yet17:43
QuintasanIt's Ubuntu17:43
QuintasanARM image17:43
macooh17:43
macoumm... can you find onboard anywhere?17:43
macoare you in ubiquity-with-unity-around-it or just ubiquity itself?17:43
macothere wouldve been a time during boot when you could pick to turn on the onscreen keyboard. i think its f6 to get the menu...oh...17:44
macohrmph17:44
Quintasanjust ubiquity I believe17:44
Quintasanlol17:44
Quintasanpress f6 to get onscreen keyboard? so logical17:44
nigelbheh17:44
macowell f6 is how you get to ANY accessibility stuff17:44
macoalso, you cant use a mouse during that part of the boot at all17:44
nigelboh, the screen before you select "install ubuntu' "boot from harddisk"?17:45
macoyes17:45
nigelb*s/where[Bs/before/where/17:45
Quintasandurrrrrrrr17:45
* Quintasan goes looking for USB keyboard17:45
nigelbhaha17:45
nigelbwe helped you :P17:45
QuintasanI have a wireless one but it doesn't work for some reason17:45
macobluetooth doesnt work that early in boot either?17:45
Quintasan*shrug*17:46
QuintasanI'll plug the one I am using now17:46
Quintasanbr17:46
Quintasanbrb17:46
macoonscreen keyboards got their start for people who would hurt if they typed full sentences mostly17:46
macocasper does still assume you can press a key or two though. hrm.17:46
macoi think its f617:47
macomaybe f517:47
macothere are optiony bits17:47
nigelbI hope something improves there before we go to Ubuntu on tablets etc.17:47
macoi dont know how youd even get it installed on a tablet anyway, except with hard drive swappiness17:49
macono usb ports, no cd drives...17:49
shadeslayerUhh .. You can install kubuntu on Tablets17:49
shadeslayerask Quintasan and apachelogger_ :P17:49
macowith a jtag?17:49
shadeslayerlol17:49
Quintasandurr17:50
Quintasanmaco: I got Ubuntu installed on Transformer17:50
shadeslayermaco: nope, tablets have Serial interfaces17:50
* maco is not nerd enough to try a jtag17:50
macoO_o17:50
shadeslayer^^ I might try out JTAG on my shiny new raspberry pi17:50
shadeslayerNever used it, should be a ton of fun17:50
Quintasanthe thing is that we can't get kernel with the right interface to boot correctly from internal memory and it mean we have older kernel and no hardware acceleration17:50
macoim pretty sure my boyfriend's ipad doesnt have a serial port. hell, none of my laptops have serial ports. i doubt my desktop at work does either17:51
macounless you mean USB17:51
Quintasanwhich makes it particualary useless since it's UBER slow17:51
macoin which case, im still pretty sure the ipad doesnt17:51
shadeslayermaco: the proprietary port on the bottom can be used for hackery17:51
Quintasanon Transformer you have nvflash17:51
shadeslayerI believe those ports are serial17:51
Quintasanwhich makes it easier17:51
shadeslayerQuintasan: correction, on your revision of the transformer you have a working nvflash17:51
shadeslayer:P17:52
Quintasancurse your luck shadeslayer17:52
Quintasannot mine :P17:52
shadeslayerWell, I'm getting raspi , so I'll do stuff with it till the transformer works17:52
shadeslayerPlasma Active on a 40" LED Screen ... \o/17:52
QuintasanIt has hdmi?17:53
shadeslayeryep17:53
shadeslayer1080p decoding as well17:53
Quintasanoh wait, transformer has hdpi too17:53
shadeslayerand it's only 25 USD ( for model A)17:53
Quintasanshadeslayer: 1080p from an sd card?17:53
shadeslayerQuintasan: yeah17:53
QuintasanI ain't believing that17:53
shadeslayerNo Wifi tho17:53
Quintasanclass 10 sd card?17:53
shadeslayerLemme dig up the video17:53
Quintasan>implying Flash works here17:54
QuintasanOFC the freaking keyboard doesnt work :OOOO17:54
shadeslayerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgR74Kp6Ws417:54
Quintasandamned imx17:54
QuintasanI wanted to build stuff on it for transformer but NO17:54
shadeslayerCan't you build stuff for transformer in a chroot or on the transformer itself?17:55
Quintasanbrb17:57
shadeslayerToo bad I can't boot ubuntu on the raspi17:59
QuintasanOf course!18:00
QuintasanKeyboard settings -> Toggle on-screen keyboard18:00
shadeslayerhaha18:00
QuintasanHOLD DOWN NEW KEYS TO EDIT A SHORTCUT18:00
shadeslayerxD18:00
Quintasanludicrous!18:01
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macoQuintasan: 18:35
maco<AlanBell> maco: nope, just wait to the drums and click the accessibility symbol in the top panel18:35
maco<AlanBell> then you can start onboard18:35
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yofelScottK: no issues with soprano here in the last 2 hours 19:25
ScottKyofel: Thanks.19:26
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