=== zkriesse is now known as zkriesse_ [00:53] I'm in the process of fixing bug 898721. The correct path is kde4-profile is that right? [00:54] Launchpad bug 898721 in casper (Ubuntu) "Casper can't disable reboot notifications on kubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898721 [00:57] maco: are you around? [01:00] that should be the right path, yes [01:02] JontheEchidna: okay, thanks === JackyAlcine is now known as [Jacky] === [Jacky] is now known as JackyAlcine === stalcup is now known as v === alvin_ is now known as alvin === mck182 is now known as mck182|afk === mck182|afk is now known as mck182 [11:59] * debfx starts packaging the icon tasks applet [12:05] debfx: icon tasks applet? [12:06] jussi: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Icon+Tasks?content=144808 [12:06] basically the unity launcher for kde [12:06] ooh, cool. [12:12] oh, it's part of kdeplasma-addons 4.8 [12:13] you know, I find it slightly suprising no one has written a light weight de in Qt. is Qt really that heavy? [13:04] jussi: you mean, something like unity-2d? ;) [13:04] * agateau hides [13:04] agateau: hehe, I suppose.... [13:04] * jussi pours water on agateau === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [14:54] * ScottK pokes at yofel for test results. [15:25] bdmurray: i'm around now... [15:25] (i dont tend to sign on at all when i'm at home anymore, btw) [15:33] maco: its okay I found an answer [16:05] hi === OffToHades is now known as BarkingFish [16:32] ScottK: ping [16:32] agateau: pong [16:33] ScottK: hi, I finally found time to look into the license issues with massif-visualizer, I'd like to check with you I am doing it correctly if you don't mind [16:33] agateau: Fire away. [16:33] great! [16:34] so the first issue is that most of the code is LGPL 2.0 but the top COPYING file is for the GPL 2.0 [16:34] so I think I should replace the COPYING file with the correct license [16:34] (I am talking about fixing this upstream btw) [16:34] now that I wrote it, that one looks like a no-brainer :) [16:35] agateau: You need a full copy of all licenses used in the package, so IIRC it'll need both. [16:36] Also there are specific file references in the code copy and so I think those files should exist (if only as symlinks) in addition to the top level COPYING files. [16:36] ScottK: actually the only code which is GPL is from libkdchart, [16:36] OK. [16:37] ScottK: and since the copyright header mentions files named LICENSE.GPL2 and LICENSE.GPL3, [16:37] I was thinking of adding those in the kdchart/ dir [16:37] That sounds good. [16:37] then we have one last tricky couple of files, [16:37] code borrowed from Qt itself [16:38] ScottK: https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/sdk/massif-visualizer/repository/revisions/master/entry/test/modeltest.cpp [16:38] this code is LGPL 2.1 and mentions a file named LGPL_EXCEPTION.txt, which is missing [16:38] That's very tricky. [16:39] It's internally inconsistent too. [16:39] Line 10 "** No Commercial Usage" makes it non-free. [16:39] yes I saw that one [16:39] Where did you get the code from? [16:39] but then it says "Alternatively..." in line 17 [16:40] OK [16:40] That takes care of the problem. [16:40] So you need to find this LGPL_EXCEPTION.txt and include it. [16:41] ok [16:41] at the top-level or in the test/ dir? [16:43] I found it, it's in qt source code (unsurprisingly) [16:45] ScottK: I am going to copy both LGPL_EXCEPTION.txt and LICENSE.LGPL to the dir where this file is kept, does it sound good? [16:45] Yes [16:45] ScottK: great, thanks! [16:46] I am wondering if all packages are usually that tricky or I just picked a painful one to get started [16:48] ScottK: one last question: if I commit the changes upstream, can I include these changes in the package as a patch or should I generate a new tarball myself? [16:48] It's OK to patch them in for now. [16:48] ok, that makes my life a bit simpler :) === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [16:57] ScottK: what was the original problem with soprano? Or should I just test if new soprano adds any new breakage? [16:57] Supposed to fix all the Nepomuk issues in combination with 4.7.3. [16:57] (it's changelog gives specifics) [16:58] Knowning about general breakage is important too [17:20] tsk, emacs keeps freezing and won't let me edit anything [17:20] Use vim :P [17:24] ScottK: just uploaded new package to revu [17:25] Riddell: That's only becuase editing isn't one of it's primary functions. Too many other things for it to do. [17:25] agateau: Great. I'll try and look at it later today (not sure I'll have time though) [17:26] ScottK: ok thanks [17:27] ScottK: heh, good one ;) [17:27] bah, no sympathy around here! [17:27] * agateau hugs Riddell [17:28] debfx: looks like rekonq is ok to sync from debian [17:28] time to go for me, bye [17:30] Riddell: it depends. at some point all kubuntu patches got dropped without mentioning it in the changelog so I assume it was an accident [17:37] bloody hell, installing with Ubuntu with mouse only is impossible [17:37] * Quintasan can't type his username in [17:40] Quintasan: onscreen keyboard? [17:40] Use the mouse to copy/paste characters off the screen. [17:40] nigelb: How on Earth I am supposed to enable it? [17:40] ScottK: Nothing to copy from :/ [17:41] OK. [17:41] nigelb: In before system settings [17:41] I enabled it there and nothing shows up [17:41] Quintasan: Are you on accessible install? [17:41] There should be something for accessibility [17:41] *shrug* [17:41] I'd be surprised if there isn't. [17:41] No idea, I have the arm image for i.mx [17:42] It's like 900mb [17:42] aha, we have an isntaller hacker among us! [17:42] * nigelb pokes maco [17:42] we do? [17:42] * maco looks around [17:43] there's no accessibility stuff in kubuntu's installer yet [17:43] It's Ubuntu [17:43] ARM image [17:43] oh [17:43] umm... can you find onboard anywhere? [17:43] are you in ubiquity-with-unity-around-it or just ubiquity itself? [17:44] there wouldve been a time during boot when you could pick to turn on the onscreen keyboard. i think its f6 to get the menu...oh... [17:44] hrmph [17:44] just ubiquity I believe [17:44] lol [17:44] press f6 to get onscreen keyboard? so logical [17:44] heh [17:44] well f6 is how you get to ANY accessibility stuff [17:44] also, you cant use a mouse during that part of the boot at all [17:45] oh, the screen before you select "install ubuntu' "boot from harddisk"? [17:45] yes [17:45] *s/where[Bs/before/where/ [17:45] durrrrrrrr [17:45] * Quintasan goes looking for USB keyboard [17:45] haha [17:45] we helped you :P [17:45] I have a wireless one but it doesn't work for some reason [17:45] bluetooth doesnt work that early in boot either? [17:46] *shrug* [17:46] I'll plug the one I am using now [17:46] br [17:46] brb [17:46] onscreen keyboards got their start for people who would hurt if they typed full sentences mostly [17:46] casper does still assume you can press a key or two though. hrm. [17:47] i think its f6 [17:47] maybe f5 [17:47] there are optiony bits [17:47] I hope something improves there before we go to Ubuntu on tablets etc. [17:49] i dont know how youd even get it installed on a tablet anyway, except with hard drive swappiness [17:49] no usb ports, no cd drives... [17:49] Uhh .. You can install kubuntu on Tablets [17:49] ask Quintasan and apachelogger_ :P [17:49] with a jtag? [17:49] lol [17:50] durr [17:50] maco: I got Ubuntu installed on Transformer [17:50] maco: nope, tablets have Serial interfaces [17:50] * maco is not nerd enough to try a jtag [17:50] O_o [17:50] ^^ I might try out JTAG on my shiny new raspberry pi [17:50] Never used it, should be a ton of fun [17:50] the thing is that we can't get kernel with the right interface to boot correctly from internal memory and it mean we have older kernel and no hardware acceleration [17:51] im pretty sure my boyfriend's ipad doesnt have a serial port. hell, none of my laptops have serial ports. i doubt my desktop at work does either [17:51] unless you mean USB [17:51] which makes it particualary useless since it's UBER slow [17:51] in which case, im still pretty sure the ipad doesnt [17:51] maco: the proprietary port on the bottom can be used for hackery [17:51] on Transformer you have nvflash [17:51] I believe those ports are serial [17:51] which makes it easier [17:51] Quintasan: correction, on your revision of the transformer you have a working nvflash [17:52] :P [17:52] curse your luck shadeslayer [17:52] not mine :P [17:52] Well, I'm getting raspi , so I'll do stuff with it till the transformer works [17:52] Plasma Active on a 40" LED Screen ... \o/ [17:53] It has hdmi? [17:53] yep [17:53] 1080p decoding as well [17:53] oh wait, transformer has hdpi too [17:53] and it's only 25 USD ( for model A) [17:53] shadeslayer: 1080p from an sd card? [17:53] Quintasan: yeah [17:53] I ain't believing that [17:53] No Wifi tho [17:53] class 10 sd card? [17:53] Lemme dig up the video [17:54] >implying Flash works here [17:54] OFC the freaking keyboard doesnt work :OOOO [17:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgR74Kp6Ws4 [17:54] damned imx [17:54] I wanted to build stuff on it for transformer but NO [17:55] Can't you build stuff for transformer in a chroot or on the transformer itself? [17:57] brb [17:59] Too bad I can't boot ubuntu on the raspi [18:00] Of course! [18:00] Keyboard settings -> Toggle on-screen keyboard [18:00] haha [18:00] HOLD DOWN NEW KEYS TO EDIT A SHORTCUT [18:00] xD [18:01] ludicrous! === zkriesse is now known as zkriesse_away === zkriesse_away is now known as zkriesse === mck182 is now known as mck182|meeting [18:35] Quintasan: [18:35] maco: nope, just wait to the drums and click the accessibility symbol in the top panel [18:35] then you can start onboard === OffToHades is now known as BarkingFish [19:25] ScottK: no issues with soprano here in the last 2 hours [19:26] yofel: Thanks. === mck182|meeting is now known as mck182