| wendar | It seems I missed MrChrisDruif by about 20 mins :( | 02:08 |
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| wendar | I'll email him so he gets a reply... | 02:16 |
| AlanBell | hmm, I see an interesting problem with this design process and what is going on with the 4digits thing on google docs | 07:54 |
| AlanBell | the only comment so far is a circle round the quit button and comment that it needs a clearer icon | 07:55 |
| AlanBell | no, it doesn't! | 07:55 |
| AlanBell | arguably the GTK-STOCK-QUIT icon in the human theme could be improved http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/2.90/gtk3-Stock-Items.html#GTK-STOCK-QUIT:CAPS | 07:55 |
| AlanBell | but changing the icon on one application to something a designer might think is more quitish for that application is the wrong thing to do | 07:56 |
| AlanBell | you could move the buttons about, add text to them (which increases the translation effort) or remove it altogether (the window has a close button) but messing with icons because you don't like the stock icon makes an inconsistent desktop and applications that don't honour icon theme changes | 07:59 |
| AlanBell | also that kind of thinking breaks accessibility when people decide not to use standard widgets | 08:00 |
| AlanBell | anyone even tested what orca reads that button as? | 08:01 |
| mainerror | AlanBell: Uhm, where is that design review process? | 09:30 |
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| alourie | hello | 12:10 |
| MrChrisDruif | Aloha alourie | 12:13 |
| alourie | hi MrChrisDruif | 12:17 |
| MrChrisDruif | How's it going? | 12:17 |
| alourie | MrChrisDruif: great | 12:18 |
| MrChrisDruif | Good to hear =) | 12:18 |
| alourie | I'm working on QA wiki update, and we kind of miss couple of icons | 12:18 |
| alourie | who can we talk to about this? | 12:18 |
| MrChrisDruif | I don't know. What kind of icons are you missing? | 12:19 |
| alourie | MrChrisDruif: well, we need a calendar one | 12:25 |
| alourie | so, I used "notes" here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlexLourie/QAWikiNew | 12:26 |
| alourie | but, I think scheduling pictogram should be better for it | 12:27 |
| MrChrisDruif | You know three of the 5 icons are scrollable? | 12:28 |
| MrChrisDruif | You forgot to set the width | 12:29 |
| MrChrisDruif | I think | 12:29 |
| MrChrisDruif | Yup, you forgot to set the width of those three | 12:30 |
| * MrChrisDruif is wiki-guru at times | 12:30 | |
| alourie | MrChrisDruif: yea, I will fix them | 12:32 |
| alourie | thanks :-), I didn't know why does this happen | 12:32 |
| MrChrisDruif | Oh my gosh, I didn't knew we had so many icons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IconsPage | 12:33 |
| MrChrisDruif | alourie; I think it's due to you using svg icons | 12:34 |
| MrChrisDruif | This link is more helpfull on the wiki pages: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IconsPage | 12:34 |
| alourie | MrChrisDruif: but this is so...Gnome 1 | 12:35 |
| alourie | maybe 2 :-) | 12:35 |
| alourie | we're in orange age now | 12:35 |
| MrChrisDruif | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IconsPage#Pictograms | 12:35 |
| MrChrisDruif | There | 12:36 |
| alourie | it's just one! | 12:36 |
| alourie | we need more! | 12:36 |
| alourie | I wonder where would I find SVG/PNG guru for fixing up a schedule pictogram | 12:38 |
| alourie | AH!!! | 12:39 |
| alourie | got it | 12:39 |
| alourie | here http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/unusual/ubuntu-pictograms | 12:39 |
| MrChrisDruif | It's just one? | 12:39 |
| MrChrisDruif | It's a whole list | 12:39 |
| alourie | MrChrisDruif: I'll cut and paste one from there | 12:40 |
| MrChrisDruif | Btw, here is a whole list of svg's http://design.canonical.com/brand/Pictograms/SVG_files/HEX/UBUNTU_ORANGE_HEX/ | 12:41 |
| alourie | MrChrisDruif: yea, got thise | 12:42 |
| alourie | those | 12:42 |
| MrChrisDruif | Here are them in png: http://design.canonical.com/brand/Pictograms/PNG_files/HEX/UBUNTU_ORANGE_HEX/ | 12:43 |
| alourie | got them too :-) | 12:44 |
| alourie | is using pngs better than svgs in wiki? | 12:44 |
| MrChrisDruif | Well, the first one of your banner was a png, and you didn't have to set the width for it I noticed | 12:45 |
| MrChrisDruif | I think all those icons should be referable in the wiki btw. | 12:45 |
| alourie | MrChrisDruif: they are | 12:46 |
| MrChrisDruif | I'll add it on the "to-do" list of the Design team | 12:46 |
| MrChrisDruif | Not all I think | 12:46 |
| alourie | well, I attached them myself, I think they need to have their own page, yes | 12:46 |
| MrChrisDruif | There are 60 in total | 12:46 |
| alourie | so using them would be convenient | 12:46 |
| MrChrisDruif | But https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IconsPage#Pictograms only lists 13 | 12:47 |
| MrChrisDruif | And also add creating a calendar one =) | 12:48 |
| alourie | wow, awesome | 12:48 |
| alourie | In general, I could add it, right? | 12:49 |
| MrChrisDruif | If you create one (you've got the guidelines) then sure | 12:49 |
| alourie | MrChrisDruif: well, I just copy one from the spreadubuntu | 12:50 |
| MrChrisDruif | alourie; here are the guidelines described: http://spreadubuntu.org/files/pict7005.png | 12:51 |
| alourie | MrChrisDruif: sure, so if I only cat and paste one, would that count? | 12:52 |
| alourie | s/cat/cut/ | 12:52 |
| MrChrisDruif | I see leogg already made one for calendar | 12:52 |
| alourie | exactly | 12:52 |
| MrChrisDruif | Well, for now it's alright if you take that. But please keep hanging around, I've got an idea for calendar which doesn't point it to the "19th" | 12:54 |
| alourie | MrChrisDruif: oh, great | 12:55 |
| alourie | would that be soon :-) ? | 12:55 |
| MrChrisDruif | I hope so, but I'll also add it to the projects | 12:56 |
| alourie | great | 12:57 |
| alourie | thank you very much | 12:57 |
| alourie | MrChrisDruif: if I'm not here when you have it, I'd appreciate if you ping me on QA maillist or through other QA folks :-) | 12:58 |
| alourie | not urgent though | 12:58 |
| alourie | but ideally before P cycle ends :-) | 12:58 |
| MrChrisDruif | alourie; got an IRC channel you hang around in a lot? | 12:59 |
| alourie | MrChrisDruif: sure, -bugs, -testing, -brainstorm and -community-team are usually the ones I'm constantly around | 12:59 |
| MrChrisDruif | I'll add all current icons at least before P cycle ends. I hope that the calendar icon I've got in mind also is finished before that | 13:00 |
| alourie | unless my computer is rebooting :-) | 13:00 |
| MrChrisDruif | -community-team? | 13:00 |
| alourie | MrChrisDruif: thank you very very much :-) | 13:00 |
| alourie | yes, #ubuntu-community-team | 13:00 |
| MrChrisDruif | Is that channel for members only? | 13:01 |
| alourie | just prefix all those with #ubuntu-, and I'm mostly surely there | 13:01 |
| alourie | MrChrisDruif: no, general public is also welcome | 13:01 |
| MrChrisDruif | Alright, I'll lurk in that channel as well | 13:01 |
| alourie | thanks a bunch | 13:01 |
| mhall119 | http://bobthegnome.blogspot.com/2011/12/gnome-games-modernisation.html | 13:06 |
| mhall119 | might be of interest to this team | 13:06 |
| mhall119 | and a good opportunity to contribute design work upstream | 13:07 |
| MrChrisDruif | alourie; you've updated the banner, good job =) | 13:08 |
| alourie | MrChrisDruif: yes, I have | 13:09 |
| alourie | thank you | 13:09 |
| alourie | compare it to the current one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ | 13:09 |
| alourie | see what I mean ? ;-) | 13:09 |
| MrChrisDruif | Yup | 13:10 |
| MrChrisDruif | No more bug-squad? | 13:11 |
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| MrChrisDruif | mhall119; looks indeed interesting | 13:13 |
| MrChrisDruif | Even development work even | 13:14 |
| alourie | MrChrisDruif: there are, it's just we're splitting | 13:14 |
| MrChrisDruif | Alright =) I was just missing it in the new banner | 13:14 |
| alourie | there is going to be BugSquad and QA | 13:14 |
| alourie | QA Team would handle Quality in Ubuntu and cooperate with other teams as necessary | 13:15 |
| alourie | such as BugSquad :-) | 13:15 |
| alourie | but from now on, they quite separate | 13:15 |
| alourie | s/they/they are/ | 13:15 |
| alourie | anyway | 13:16 |
| MrChrisDruif | =) | 13:16 |
| alourie | thank you for the pictograms | 13:16 |
| MrChrisDruif | Your welcome | 13:16 |
| MrChrisDruif | mhall119; shall I add your link to the projects page? | 13:18 |
| MrChrisDruif | Projects-part* of the page? | 13:18 |
| mhall119 | MrChrisDruif: if it's something the team wants to look into, sure | 13:46 |
| MrChrisDruif | mhall119; and it's up: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesignTeam | 13:51 |
| mhall119 | cool, thanks | 14:18 |
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| MrChrisDruif | Good evening everyone | 20:34 |
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