[00:40] <smoser> utlemming, here now.
[00:58] <josePhoenix> Hello all
[00:58] <josePhoenix> I just updated apport (which I assume is part of the default set of packages?) and the service was unable to start afterwards. Should I be worried?
[01:00] <josePhoenix> Hmm. It looks like it's disabled now, but then shouldn't it not try to start the service at all? >.>
[01:00] <SpamapS> josePhoenix: can you explain why you think it wsa unable to start?
[01:02] <josePhoenix> SpamapS: I just did apt-get upgrade and saw the following lines in the output:
[01:02] <josePhoenix> "Setting up apport (1.23-0ubuntu4) ..." "start: Job failed to start" "invoke-rc.d: initscript apport, action "start" failed.""
[01:03] <josePhoenix> When I tried 'service apport start', I got "start: Job failed to start"
[01:07] <nonsenso> josePhoenix: anything useful in syslog?
[01:10] <josePhoenix> It looks like exactly this bug from April in terms of errors. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/767498
[01:12] <SpamapS> josePhoenix: so, do you have the fixed version?
[01:13] <josePhoenix> Yup, 1.23-0ubuntu4
[01:13] <josePhoenix> I'm going to try purging and reinstalling the package
[01:14] <josePhoenix> Nope, still failed.
[01:19] <josePhoenix> Hm. The latest version of the package seems to be installing a script broken in the same way described on that launchpad bug
[01:20] <josePhoenix> I removed /etc/init/apport.conf to be sure and reinstalled.
[01:39] <zul> smoser: it does
[01:39] <zul> ?
[01:39]  * zul is boggled
[01:41] <smoser> seems to work, yes.
[03:25] <blkperl> so precise is trolling me, it installs on virtual machines but not on a dell precision 380
[03:30] <chrislabeard_> What is the best web panel nowadays ?
[03:30] <blkperl> web panel?
[03:31] <chrislabeard_> yeah for LAMP
[03:31] <chrislabeard_> or to manage a lamp server
[03:32] <blkperl> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_hosting_control_panels
[03:35] <Resistance> how can i tell apt-get/aptitude to *not* upgrade a package using a backports PPA?
[03:37] <SpamapS> Resistance: pinning
[03:37] <Resistance> SpamapS:  how do i pin the php5-* packages then?
[03:37]  * Resistance backported php from oneiric to natty, but doesnt want to update php on this particular server *unless* the update comes from the main repos (i.e. not the ppa)
[03:38] <Resistance> other software exists in the ppa which needs to remain installed, so removing the PPA isnt an option
[03:38] <SpamapS> http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html  is pretty good
[03:38] <SpamapS> Resistance: basically you would list it in /etc/apt/preferences
[03:38] <SpamapS> Resistance: man apt_preferences
[03:39] <Resistance> thanks
[03:41] <Resistance> will aptitude honor the pin as well?
[03:41]  * Resistance uses aptitude over apt-get
[03:44] <SpamapS> Resistance: I don't, so I don't know.
[03:58] <qman__> I think a better solution in your case would be to install the package, then remove the PPA
[03:58] <qman__> if you don't want any updates from that PPA, it'll just keep your version because it's newer
[03:59] <Resistance> well since its my own PPA of backports...
[03:59] <Resistance> broder said use one PPA for staging, another for deployment
[03:59] <qman__> if you pin it it won't update at all, which works, but you then have to manually update again later
[03:59] <Resistance> (which would of course eliminate this issue altogether)
[03:59] <Resistance> s/said/recommended to/
[04:00] <qman__> also a good plan
[04:00] <Resistance> well this way i dont flood the deployment ppa with failed builds xD
[06:16] <Parand> I'm having trouble getting ubuntu-vm-builder to create a guest i can access. Is this the right place to ask for help?
[08:16] <koolhead11> hi all
[08:46] <koolhead11> lynxman: around
[08:54] <jamespage> good morning
[09:07] <lynxman> morning o/
[10:01] <RGUYASD> hail !
[10:01] <RGUYASD> what do i need for " make xconfig " to work ?
[10:10] <RGUYASD> guys
[10:14] <ersi> AFAIK you need Qt installed
[10:14] <ersi> A good question is why you're doing graphical installation on a server
[10:14] <RGUYASD> yeah how do i get it ?
[10:14] <RGUYASD> i'm using ubuntu
[10:15] <RGUYASD> Unable to find the QT4 tool qmake. Trying to use QT3
[10:15] <ersi> apt-get install qt4-qmake perhaps
[10:15] <RGUYASD> i'm using ubuntu desktop not server but nobody bothered to answer my question in there
[10:15] <ersi> Great goign
[10:16] <ersi> I'll go back to fiddling with our servers now
[10:16] <RGUYASD> ok thanks for the help
[10:47] <kaushal> Hi
[10:48] <kaushal> I am referring to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Managing
[10:49] <kaushal> I get "No console available for domain"
[10:49] <kaushal> Any clue please
[10:53] <kaushal> apologies
[10:53] <kaushal> How do i get into VM in linux KVM
[10:55] <kaushal> basically how do i get into the vm to edit network physical IP
[11:55] <alex88> hi guys, actually libtiff-dev requires libjpeg6 but i wanted to installad libjpeg8 instead, how can i force the dipendence, maybe just set libjpeg6 as installed and install libjpeg8c from source
[13:17] <caribou> I have a question for the Ubuntu virtualization team :-)
[13:17] <caribou> or any member of that team
[13:33] <drt24> caribou: in general ask the question rather than asking to asks (I am not a member of that team though)
[13:33] <caribou> drt24: I don't want to sound rude, but the last time I asked, it just got lost in the flow of the conversation
[13:33] <caribou> I'm dealing with a bug on vmbuilder that I'm able to reproduce
[13:34] <caribou> I 'heard' rumors that vmbuilder was being phased out
[13:34] <caribou> I wanted to check that before pushing the bug further
[13:35] <drt24> caribou: yes that tends to happen, sorry.
[13:36] <caribou> drt24: oh, don't worry I do miss a lot of stuff too
[13:36] <caribou> depends on the activity in the room
[13:47] <soren> caribou: Noone's actively maintaining VMBuilder, no. It gets the odd bug fix, but that's it.
[13:47] <caribou> soren: ah, ok.
[13:48] <caribou> soren: the bug I'm working on involves file system corruption when using -raw devices
[13:48] <caribou> soren: I'll see if I can identify the portion of code involved
[13:48] <soren> hallyn: The changelog says: "Fix default network autostart symlink disappearing on upgrade", but it's really quite the opposite. It re-appears even if you've removed it.
[13:51] <caribou> soren: what is the alternative to vmbuilder these days ?
[13:53] <soren> caribou: IIRC, http://live.debian.net/
[13:54] <caribou> soren: thanks I'll give it a look
[13:54] <soren> hallyn: Or am I confused?
[13:55] <soren> hallyn: HAving the link reappear used to be the problem. Did that get fixed and now you're trying to fix a new problem that appeared?
[14:00] <hallyn> soren: historically, if you removed the symlink it would always reappear, bc the symlink shipped as a file part of the pkg
[14:00] <soren> hallyn: Right.
[14:01] <soren> hallyn: I thought that was what you were fixing, but I gather that has been addressed earlier?
[14:01] <hallyn> then i thought i fixed it, but i did it wrong, so that it disappeared for anyone upgrading from old version
[14:01] <soren> I see, ok.
[14:01] <hallyn> iow, it maintained the link if it exists,
[14:01] <hallyn> but as part of the upgrade, the file went away, so it never existed at postinst time
[14:01] <soren> Right.
[14:02] <jason00> hello
[14:02] <hallyn> so for anyone who upgrades now from oneiric to precise, it should do the right thing.
[14:02] <jason00> should my system not re-generate the NICs if I delete 70-persistent-net.rules and reboot?
[14:02] <soren> hallyn: When did this change land? (the one that solved the link constantly reappearling)
[14:03] <soren> jason00: yes
[14:03] <soren> jason00: Oh, wait.
[14:03] <soren> jason00: No.
[14:03] <jason00> are you sure? I was... literally... positive it would.
[14:03] <jason00> did I whoopsie? :(
[14:03] <soren> jason00: Sorry, yes :)
[14:03] <jason00> IM CONFUSED
[14:03] <soren> jason00: No, I was just confused. I got the numbers mixed up.
[14:03] <jason00> :P
[14:03] <hallyn> soren: i'm at the wrong laptop right now to check the changelog.  it was very recently though
[14:04] <hallyn> i think last friday
[14:04] <soren> hallyn: In precise?
[14:04] <soren> hallyn: Or somewhere else as well?
[14:04] <hallyn> yes - i'm SRUing it eventually
[14:04] <soren> hallyn: Ok, let me think this through. My input yesterday was based on my (wrong) assumption that it was the originial problem you were adressing.
[14:04] <jason00> soren: I deleted the 70-persistent-net.rules file and rebooted hoping it would regenerate. It regenerated my onboard NIC, but not my PCI NIC. I did however just run sudo ifconfig eth0 up and I see it again...
[14:04] <hallyn> but so far only in precise
[14:04] <jason00> I wonder if I reboot now that it's up if it'll repopulate its entry in the 70 persistent file?
[14:05] <hallyn> soren: why, are you having trouble with the new package?
[14:06] <soren> hallyn: Haven't tried it. It's just a slightly different problem, so I want to make sure my suggestions were sound.
[14:06] <soren> hallyn: I hadn't realised you had already uploaded it, so I was reviewing the debdiff.
[14:07] <hallyn> oh, i see
[14:08] <hallyn> if you're upgrading from an old version, it'll detect that symlink is htere (or not), and recreate it when pkg deleted it;  if from newer version (i.e. henceforth) it'll just let it keep existing
[14:08] <hallyn> (and if upgrading from one of the last few, broken, versions, it recreates it)
[14:09] <soren> hallyn: Instead of enumerating all the broken versions, you should use dpkg --compare-versions.
[14:09] <soren> Well, not "broken", but ykwim.
[14:10] <hallyn> thanks, that sounds nicer
[14:10] <alex88> hi guys, how can i reinstall a package with apt-get?
[14:10] <hallyn> i'll look it up and change it - though i was sort of hoping it would be reasonable toremove that bit after awhile :)
[14:10] <hallyn> apt-get install --reinstall pkg
[14:10] <soren> hallyn: Actually, you can fold that into the first conditional ("if -z $2")
[14:11] <soren> hallyn: So you'd replace "if -z $2" with..
[14:11] <jason00> wow. I'm super confused.
[14:12] <jason00> my other NIc entry is still not in 70 persistent net rules :(
[14:12] <jason00> can I just copy the first and swap the eth # and mac addr?
[14:12] <soren> jason00: Sure.
[14:12] <hallyn> soren: yeah, sounds good.  (yesterday i just wanted to keep things split to think things through clearly :)
[14:12] <jason00> I'm baffled as to why its not coming back. maybe I need to delete the entire file now that I have the interface up.
[14:12] <jason00> har har har
[14:12] <jason00> that may be it...
[14:13] <soren> hallyn: Sure, and that's fine. Feel free to keep it that way, if it helps you grok it going forward.
[14:13] <soren> hallyn: As for when we can drop it: The first upload to precise+1.
[14:13] <soren> hallyn: You can make a comment to that effect in the file itself.
[14:14] <hallyn> soren: and why exactly is that?  there's a rationale spelled out somewhere?
[14:14] <soren> hallyn: Working on it :)
[14:14] <hallyn> :)
[14:14] <soren> hallyn: We support upgrades from LTS to LTS.
[14:15] <soren> hallyn: ...and we support upgades from the release immediately preceding the LTS to the LTS.
[14:15] <soren> hallyn: ..and we sort of support upgrade from anywhere in the dev cycle to the final release.
[14:15] <soren> hallyn: This problem only existed during the precise dev cycle.
[14:15] <ogra_> "sort of"
[14:16] <soren> hallyn: Do you disagree?
[14:16] <soren> hallyn: So the only situation where you cuold reasonably see this is when you're upgrading from mid-cycle precise to final precise.
[14:16] <soren> hallyn: Hence, the first upload to precise+1 doesn't need to worry about it.
[14:18] <hallyn> soren: meaning that before upgrading to the LTS, you're supposed to do a dist-upgrade first?
[14:18] <hallyn> if that is the case (as i recall reading) then that (removing it at first p+1 upload) does make sense
[14:19] <soren> hallyn: Yes.
[14:19] <jason00> hmm, whats the command for rebooting dhcp service? I thought it was sudo service dhcp3 stop/start etc
[14:20] <patdk-wk> dhcp3-server
[14:20] <jason00> unrecognized service
[14:20] <patdk-wk> maybe your using dnsmasq?
[14:20] <jason00> no idea?
[14:20] <jason00> Its a pretty vanilla install
[14:20] <patdk-wk> hpow should I know\
[14:20] <patdk-wk> you mean the dhcp client?
[14:21] <jason00> I'm setting this up as a server. I didn't do anything other than install ubuntu and fog + ltsp, which both use dhcp
[14:21] <jason00> I'm just not sure I can get them to play nice on the same box with 2 NICs
[14:22] <zul> good morning
[14:24] <hallyn> soren: now the q is only whether I can remember that reasoning in a few months :)  (i'll write it down to add as comment to the src on next upload)
[14:24] <hallyn> soren: thanks
[14:25] <soren> ogra_: Do you disagree?
[14:25] <soren> ogra_: On the "sort of"?
[14:25] <ogra_> soren, well, no, but the sort of actually means that we dont really care in some cases for dev -> final updates
[14:26] <ogra_> (which we actually often dont do, often it is just release noted in the milestone wheer we fixed it)
[14:26] <soren> ogra_: Yeah. I would consider the bug valid..
[14:27] <soren> ogra_: ...but probably not worry a whole lot about fixing it.
[14:27] <ogra_> yeah
[14:27] <soren> ogra_: hence "sort of" :)
[14:27] <jason00> seems as if 70 persistent net rules is being a brat
[14:27] <soren> It depends on teh bug, really.
[14:27] <jason00> only finds 1 of the devices, or 3, but only 2 exist
[14:27] <jason00> it wont find just two
[14:27] <ogra_> just release note it for alpha2 :)
[14:28] <hallyn> ogra_: which are you talking about right now?  my libvirt snafu, or something else?
[14:29] <ogra_> nothing specific ... just the statement that we support in-dev-release upgrades
[14:29] <ogra_> or dev to final
[14:29] <ogra_> we often dont, even though we try to
[14:29] <ogra_> and just release note the issue
[14:30] <hallyn> ok
[14:37] <jason00> sweet
[14:37] <jason00> now its not re-generating 70 persistent net rules
[14:37] <jason00> nice
[14:40] <pmatulis> jason00: you erased the file?
[14:40] <jason00> yes
[14:41] <pmatulis> jason00: it used to be re-generated on older releases, what are you running?
[14:41] <jason00> 11.10. it regenerated fine about 2 or 3 times. I kept deleting it because each time it populated, it populated the wrong mac addresses. It was rather baffling. Now all of the sudden, it wont regenerate.
[14:42] <jason00> to make things worse, I hit "shut down" instead of restart accidentally. once I hit the power button to turn my server back on, it wouldnt turn on.
[14:42] <jason00> really?
[14:42] <pmatulis> jason00: hm, i wouldn't expect it to re-gen on 11.10, maybe that funct. was restored
[14:43] <jason00> if it doesnt regenerate, what other option is there pmatulis ?
[14:43] <pmatulis> jason00: copy from another system?
[14:43] <jason00> lol
[14:43] <jason00> thats really the answer?
[14:43] <jason00> hello we removed functionality so plz install another instance to copy it over
[14:43] <pmatulis> jason00: dunno if that's the only answer
[14:44] <soren> jason00: What do you mean "the wrong mac address2?
[14:44] <soren> s/2/"/
[14:44] <pmatulis> jason00: you don't have network so hard to use apt
[14:44] <jason00> soren: the one time I booted up, it populated 3 network cards. 2 of them were incorrect in terms of their mac address.
[14:44] <jason00> the 3rd one was fine
[14:45] <soren> jason00: How are they "incorrect"?
[14:45] <jason00> I just want the system to, A, power on since it wont turn on all of the sudden, and B, put in the 2 proper NICs I want to use in the system
[14:45] <jason00> their mac address
[14:45] <jason00> is completely incorrect
[14:45] <soren> jason00: Did it just make up random macs?
[14:45] <jason00> what?
[14:45] <jason00> no
[14:45] <jason00> er
[14:45] <jason00> yeah
[14:45] <jason00> I thought you asked if I made them up
[14:45] <soren> What are these NIC's?
[14:45] <soren> Make/model?
[14:45] <jason00> I'd tell ya if my system didnt shut off and not turn back on...
[14:46] <jason00> one is atheros...
[14:46] <jason00> the other I'm not sure. a 3com of some sort.
[14:46] <soren> Do you have the macs?
[14:46] <soren> Can I see them, please?
[14:46] <jason00> I'd tell ya if my system didnt shut off and not turn back on...
[14:47] <jason00> it didnt match what ifconfig was reporting
[14:48] <jason00> omg it lives.
[14:48] <soren> jason00: It'll pass.
[14:56] <jason00> k, back up and running. still no persistent file.
[14:56] <jason00> :)
[15:39] <smoser> RoAkSoAx,
[15:39] <smoser> so i insatlled obbler on oneiric (orchestra-server)
[15:39] <smoser> turned on a system that pxe booted from it.
[15:39] <smoser> i supposed i would get the option to "cobbler-enlist"
[15:54] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: nope
[15:54] <RoAkSoAx> smoser:
[15:54] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: the cobbler-enlist feature is not on a mini iso
[15:54] <smoser> so how would i cobbler-enlist?
[15:55] <smoser> the menu i spoke of is the pxe menu
[15:55] <smoser> (not the iso menu)
[15:55] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: plug in your ubuntu server iso and there would be a menu to cobbler enlist (this is before having a system in cobbler)
[15:55] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: well cobbler-enlist is the ISO menu
[15:55] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: in precise we will have a pxe menu with cobbler enlist
[15:56] <smoser> ah. ok.
[15:56] <smoser> thanks.
[16:17] <zul> SpamapS: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/901710
[16:19] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, ping again
[16:19] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: shoot
[16:19] <smoser> what would be the easiest way for me to pulug in a "run this script in-target" late command.
[16:20] <smoser> it seems  like a general snippit for that would be nice.
[16:20] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: yeah I think a snippet would be best too
[16:20] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: but use a ksarg variable to fill the command for that snippet
[16:27] <semiosis> anyone here using OpenJDK 7 on Oneiric?  after installing on a new machine, of the 41 executables installed by java, 13 point to Java6 (including the 'java' command) and 28 point to Java7 (including the 'javac' command)... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-7/+bug/901758
[16:32] <zul> smoser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/763912/
[16:34] <zul> ^^^ review please :)
[16:36] <smoser> suo sucks
[16:36] <smoser> su
[16:37] <SpamapS> zul: ok thanks
[16:37] <smoser> the only comment i have is that you might as well do:
[16:38] <smoser> +exec su -s /bin/sh -c "exec glance-registry" glance
[16:38] <smoser> as otherwise, i think you have:
[16:38] <smoser>  su waiting for sh, sh waiting for glance-registry
[16:38] <smoser> this will change that to
[16:38] <smoser>  su waiting for glance-registry
[16:38] <zul> smoser: k thanks
[16:39] <smoser> but test
[16:39] <smoser> :)
[16:58] <rbasak> RoAkSoAx: ping
[16:58] <rbasak> RoAkSoAx: https://github.com/cobbler/cobbler/issues/8 - will this affect precise? I get the impression this was a regression with the csrf protection, looking at it in case oneiric-security causes a regression
[16:59] <rbasak> I can't figure out how to reproduce it from the instructions given
[17:01] <RoAkSoAx> rbasak: I just tested it on precise's cobbler and it doesn't seem to be affected
[17:01] <rbasak> RoAkSoAx: OK, thanks. I'll go ahead with the backport without the fix
[17:02] <RoAkSoAx> rbasak: but the bug report is for cobbler 2.3.1-1 while in precise we currently have cobbler-2.2.2
[17:16] <ogra_> smoser, Daviey, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2011-December/255178.html ... is there any place i could point that guy from the ubuntu-users ML to ?
[17:17] <rbasak> RoAkSoAx: please could you review lp:~racb/ubuntu/oneiric/cobbler/security_201112 - it's a bundle of all the security updates for oneiric, including the csrf bug
[17:17]  * zul lunches
[17:18] <smoser> is this openstack, ogra_ ? there is a large amount of missing information there.
[17:18] <RoAkSoAx> rbasak: will addd it to my todo for today ;)
[17:18] <rbasak> thanks :)
[17:18] <ogra_> smoser, thats why i ask here, do you guys have an EC2 support ML or some such ?
[17:19] <ogra_> seems unlikely that he will get the right info (or be asked for the right logs etc) on the ubuntu-users ML
[17:20] <smoser> i dont think that is ec2
[17:20] <smoser> but there is an ubuntu-cloud mailing list
[17:20] <smoser> which would be more relevant.
[17:20] <ogra_> thanks, i'll point him there
[17:21] <smoser> thanks ogra_
[18:01] <jamespage> is it possible to configure multiple network interfaces through preseeding?
[18:07] <koolhead17> hi all
[18:08] <tash> hi, trying install Ubuntu server 10.04 on a system that already had a version of Red Hat installed with LVM. During install, it cannot partition the drive b/c an LVM exists. It says I have to remove that first.  I don't know how, can someone help?
[18:11] <blkperl> tash: i think you want vgremove and pvremove
[18:11] <tash> can I run that from the installer though? Or do I have to boot to the hard disk?
[18:12] <blkperl> if the installer has a shell and lvm commands yes
[18:12] <hallyn> drat.  i've managed to make sudo not setuid-root.
[18:13] <hallyn> yay, found an open root shell
[18:21] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, http://pad.daviey.com/smoser-cobbler-late-command is what i came up with.
[18:21] <smoser> looks reasonably usable. other than needing to add a snppiit file.
[18:28] <tash> blkperl: do you know which to use first? vgremove pvremove
[18:28] <tash> that order?
[18:28] <zul> smoser: you might want to change the password while you are there as well
[18:28] <patdk-wk> vgchange first :)
[18:29] <patdk-wk> to deactivate it
[18:30] <tash> patdk-wk: vgchange <drive> or just vgchange?
[18:31] <patdk-wk> vgchange -a n volgroup
[18:32] <patdk-wk> basically, unmount it first, before you mess with it :)
[18:33] <tash> this would be easier if I was not remote ... I don't have a way of connecting remotely and have to walk someone through it
[18:33] <tash> so, to find the volgroup, will 'mount' tell me that?
[18:35] <tash> hmm, vgdisplay may do the trick to show me that, no?
[18:40] <marut> vgdisplay
[18:40] <marut> vgs
[18:40] <marut> vgscan
[18:40] <marut> etc
[18:50] <robo_> what is the expected behavior if i bring up a network interface using an IP address already in use?
[18:51] <robo_> i did that by accident last night and i don't see anything in the error log and it let me do it
[18:52] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: cool, I'll look inot it further.. though I also wanna separate the late command template into a common place to be re-used
[18:52] <RoAkSoAx> instead of manually adding it to each .py file we create
[18:52] <smoser> that makes sense.
[18:52] <smoser> which woudl then make *that* thing able to use python dirctly.
[18:52] <RoAkSoAx> indeed
[18:53] <smoser> i also thought of having just by default running scripts in run-parts order from /var/lib/cobbler/late_command.d
[18:53] <smoser> or something
[18:53] <smoser> early_command.d would also be possible
[18:53] <RoAkSoAx> yeah that'd also be like a good idea
[18:53] <smoser> then all i have to do is put stuff in that directory rather than modifying
[18:54] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: yeah
[18:55] <zul> RoAkSoAx: have you thought of moving redhat snippets and ubuntu snippets in their own directories?
[18:56] <RoAkSoAx> zul: what I was thinking is just to be: ubuntu_abc_xyz, ubuntu_123_456 and so on
[18:56] <RoAkSoAx> zul: but organizing into files sounds like a good idea
[18:57] <RoAkSoAx> err into directories*
[18:58] <RoAkSoAx> zul: so snippets/ubuntu/orchestra/ too then
[18:58] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, i thought i read that there is some provision for using distro specifcik kickstart scripts...
[18:58] <smoser> something..
[18:59] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/wiki/KickstartSnippets
[18:59] <RoAkSoAx> /var/lib/cobbler/snippets/per_distro/$snippet_name/$distro_name
[19:00] <RoAkSoAx> under "Advance Snippets"
[19:03] <smoser> utlemming, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/901826
[19:03] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, right. thats what i read.
[19:04]  * utlemming looks
[19:05] <incorrect> is there another kernel i should use for kvm other than -server?
[19:05] <smoser> incorrect, you *can* use -virtual
[19:05] <smoser> but it may not have everything you want.
[19:06] <smoser> its just smaller, less modules and drivers
[19:06] <incorrect> just wondered if there was one that would be better suited
[19:07] <utlemming> smoser: I'll have a code review shortly for you on that
[19:11] <utlemming> smoser: that's a one line fix
[19:12] <orudie> how can I update phpmyadmin if i installed it with apt-get ?
[19:23] <pmatulis> orudie: what version do you have now and what release of 'buntu are you using?
[19:38] <ajmitch> SpamapS: fwiw, I've got a php 5.4.0 rc2 package in progress, waiting on the PPA buildds to tell me how it goes. I based it off the beta2 package in experimental
[19:46] <RoyK> orudie: uninstall phpmyadmin and reinstall it from source - see #phpmyadmin for details :þ
[19:50] <utlemming> smoser: fix submitted for merge approval
[19:59] <utlemming> https://code.launchpad.net/~utlemming/vmbuilder/automated-ec2-builds.901826/+merge/85018
[20:36] <hallyn> ahs3: have you had a chance to look at the netcf updates?
[20:37] <ahs3> hallyn: sigh.  not yet :(.  day job has been getting in the way.  do you have deadline you want to meet?
[20:38] <hallyn> ahs3: not particularly, it just occurred to me as i was considering doing the MIR.  Though I do think the libnl switch will make the difference in debian's libvirt being able to link against it.
[20:38] <hallyn> to be clear: ic an't upload to it myself, right?
[20:39] <ahs3> hallyn: ah, good to know.  no, you need to be a DM or DD so that you're in the keyring.
[20:40] <ahs3> i'm hoping to get to it tomorrow...but none of this week has gone as planned :)
[20:40] <hallyn> ahs3: i know how it goes :)   thanks much
[20:42] <ahs3> hallyn: np.  sorry for the delays
[20:44] <hallyn> Daviey: played with netcf on new precise install, working fine.
[21:16] <raubvogel> Anyone doing syncrepl proxy in ldap?
[21:18] <baffle> raubvogel: Syncrepl proxy? We use olcSyncProvConfig ..
[21:19] <baffle> raubvogel: syncprov I mean.
[21:20] <raubvogel> baffle: I want to do this: http://www.openldap.org/doc/admin24/replication.html#Syncrepl%20Proxy and am not getting the ldap proxy part of the show
[21:20] <raubvogel> Reason is I want the master/provider to push the data to the replicas since master is behind nat
[21:22] <kaje1> I'm getting an error trying to start a VM on my Ubuntu 10.04 server. "Error starting domain: could not remove profile for 'libvirt-672b346a-65d4-41be-96f9-a83ef556efb2'"
[21:23] <kaje1> I think it started after a recent upgrade to some libvirt packages...
[21:23] <kaje1> Anyone else experiencing this?
[21:23] <kaje1> Any suggestions?
[21:31] <tash> sighs, I lost my notes on partitioning a drive for ext4 manually
[21:31] <tash> fdisk?
[21:31] <baffle> raubvogel: Oh, that's not like our setup.
[21:32] <baffle> raubvogel: I think we do master master master replication. :)
[21:33] <raubvogel> baffle: what I had before was a garden-variety delta syncrepl. And It made sense to me. But I have not wrapped my mind int he syncreply proxy thingie.
[21:35] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, have you ever seen this?
[21:36] <smoser> i did a precise install from cobbler/orhestra
[21:36] <smoser> it got through, disabled netboot, and then it boots, i see a flicker of the selection screen, then "press a key to reboot"
[21:36] <smoser> as if its not falling back to the disk
[21:36] <smoser> if i select the disk to boot from rather than network, all is well (ie, the disk *does* boot fine).
[21:37] <hallyn> ahs3: Daviey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/764276/  libvirt hookup to netcf was as trivial as you'd hope
[21:41] <ahs3> hallyn: very sweet.  well done :)
[21:41] <hallyn> ahs3: had to make sure that would work before doing the MIR :)
[21:41] <hallyn> cause otherwise wouldn't i feel the fool
[21:42] <ahs3> sheesh.  details, man
[21:42] <hallyn> ahs3: say, now, if i ITP another package, does it ever happen that people jsut happen by willing to sponsor it, or does one always need to basically ping someone directly?
[21:43] <baffle> hallyn: Oh, netcf + libvirt in Ubuntu? Been waiting for that for a while. :)
[21:43] <hallyn> baffle: good to hear :)  but netcf won't be built into libvirt until it's in main
[21:44] <ahs3> hallyn: it can always go in the mentors queue.  someone may get interested and sponsor it, or you may get impatient and poke someone
[21:44] <hallyn> ahs3: ok, thx.  i'l lworry about that after MIRs
[21:53] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: hardware or VM?
[21:53] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: is this with latest cobbler?
[22:07] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: if it is a VM, it might be becaus eof the recent change to the PXE file. so in /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/01-<mac-address> change KERNEL chain.c32 to LOCALBOOT -1
[23:01] <kaushal> is there a step by step guide to configure syslog-ng on Ubuntu Server 10.04 and point all clients to this Syslog-Ng server ?
[23:06] <jmedina> kaushal: why dont you follow the official documentation form syslog-ng?
[23:06]  * jmedina prefers rsyslog
[23:16] <kaushal> jmedina: ok
[23:16] <kaushal> How is rsyslog advantages over syslog
[23:16] <jmedina> syslog is not maintained....
[23:17] <jmedina> rsyslog is the new default syslog daemon in  ubuntu...
[23:17] <kaushal> ok
[23:17] <jmedina> let me give you the link to a canonical document about centralized syslog setup
[23:18] <kaushal> how do i configure client to rsyslog ?
[23:18] <jmedina> http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/resources/white-papers/centralised-logging-rsyslog
[23:19] <jmedina> and the comparison: http://rsyslog.com/doc/rsyslog_ng_comparison.html
[23:20] <jmedina> http://rgerhards.blogspot.com/2007/08/why-does-world-need-another-syslogd.html
[23:23] <jmedina> I use rsyslog as client and server, on the client side I use MySQL as log store, and then I use LogAnalyzer for search and analisis
[23:23] <jmedina> right now Im generating some reports for a customer
[23:23] <jmedina> LogAnalyzer it is a web interface, and it is free
[23:23] <jmedina> I mean on the server side..
[23:28] <kaushal> ok
[23:36] <kaushal> jmedina: Thanks a lot
[23:37] <jmedina> you are welcome :)
[23:37] <hazmat> kees, out of curiosity which ec2 region where you using juju in?
[23:37] <jmedina> I hope I can publish my document before this year :)