[02:33] <ScottL> ochosi, knome:  just want to say, i think greybird is one hell of a theme
[02:34] <ScottL> i've been playing with the others that ship with xubuntu and i find most are not esthetically attractive at all, but greybird certainly is
[02:44] <ochosi> thanks ScottL 
[03:27] <ScottL> is there a default tool installed to adjust the monitor
[03:34] <ScottL> perhaps for adjusting multi-monitor settings and such
[03:34] <ScottL> lxarandar?
[03:54] <Unit193> ScottL: Check out Blackbird, it's a good start even though it's not done ;)
[10:07] <ochosi> ScottL: settings-manager > display?
[17:33] <astraljava> Anyone here using unetbootin for USB sticks when creating a start-up disk?
[17:33] <astraljava> What can I do when it gives me the wrong /dev/sdX and doesn't let me change it?
[17:35] <knome> install windows
[17:36] <astraljava> *rolls eyes*
[17:37] <astraljava> What start-up disk did you think I was attempting to create?!
[17:37] <knome> :)
[17:38] <astraljava> TTL ry. is a funny organisation. In their newsletter, which is HTML of course, it says "if the newsletter is broken, please click on link to read it online".
[17:39] <knome> :P
[17:39] <astraljava> Reading that email on mutt under xterm, is a loooooot of fun,
[17:43] <astraljava> knome: How nice our government really is: http://tinyurl.com/7dk5o92
[17:44] <knome> heh
[17:57] <GridCube> meeting time?
[17:58] <astraljava> No. Hammer time!
[17:58]  * GridCube dances
[18:00] <knome> hah
[18:00] <knome> what hammer? :P
[18:00] <knome> yup
[18:00] <knome> let's wait for a while for people to pop up
[18:01]  * madnick pops u
[18:01] <knome> we don't have much on the agenda, so it should be quick
[18:01] <astraljava> http://edge.ebaumsworld.com/picture/NastyFO/HAMMERTIME.png
[18:01] <knome> #startmeeting Xubuntu Community Meeting
[18:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Dec  8 18:01:47 2011 UTC.  The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[18:02] <knome> #topic Ongoing Business
[18:02] <knome> #subtopic Ubuntu moving to 5-year release schedule for LTS
[18:03] <GridCube> i think its pretty obvious by now that we can not do that
[18:03] <knome> #info micahg created a proposal/draft for Xubuntu LTS's, can be read at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2011-December/008082.html
[18:04] <knome> any comments about that?
[18:04]  * micahg was hoping mr_pouit could comment
[18:05] <knome> i'm planning to carrying this to our next meeting, where we could have a simple yay/nay vote for this
[18:05]  * GridCube seconds
[18:06] <knome> meanwhile let's read any discussion/comments
[18:06] <knome> but i think this is a good proposal, and it's looks viable too
[18:06] <GridCube> as i just said, and not being a developer or nothing, i don't think we should commit to that
[18:06] <knome> commit to *what* ?
[18:06] <GridCube> 5 years lts
[18:07] <knome> yeah, that's not what micah is proposing. did you read the mail/link?
[18:07] <GridCube> yes, 3 years
[18:07] <knome> exactly. if you have any comments about the current proposed LTS plan, feel free to send them to the mailing list so others can chime in
[18:08] <GridCube> sorry for the missunderstandment
[18:08] <knome> #info Wait one more week for comments/discussion on the mailing list
[18:08] <GridCube> :) ok
[18:08] <knome> #info Voting on the draft by micahg in the next community meeting
[18:09] <knome> #info Following micahg's plan would also maintain our recognized derivative status
[18:09] <knome> #subtopic Meeting times
[18:10] <knome> #action knome to set up a new schedule for meetings, where meetings would ideally happen in the middle of the week to make it easier for the release meeting updates
[18:10] <meetingology> ACTION: knome to set up a new schedule for meetings, where meetings would ideally happen in the middle of the week to make it easier for the release meeting updates
[18:10] <knome> #topic Team updates
[18:11] <knome> #subtopic Packaging, Development
[18:11] <knome> micahg, ?
[18:11] <micahg> not too much going on, just some package name changes and armhf coming online
[18:11] <knome> can you post that again with #info in the beginning of the line? thanks :)
[18:12] <micahg> #info not too much going on, just some font package name changes and armhf coming online
[18:12] <knome> #subtopic Bug Triage, Testing
[18:12] <knome> GridCube, any updates?
[18:13] <knome> apparently not
[18:13] <GridCube> not really
[18:13] <knome> #subtopic Website, Documentation
[18:13] <pleia2> we had website sprint on Saturday, results here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2011-December/008071.html
[18:14] <knome> pleia2, with #info, pleeeease :)
[18:14] <pleia2> bah
[18:14] <knome> heh
[18:14] <pleia2> #info we had website sprint on Saturday, results here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2011-December/008071.html
[18:14] <pleia2> I do want to repeat that we need feedback on useful stuff for http://wp.xubuntu.org/developertools/
[18:15] <knome> #info we need feedback on useful stuff for http://wp.xubuntu.org/developertools/
[18:15] <pleia2> sorry, do I need to info every line?
[18:15] <knome> anything you want in the team updates
[18:15] <pleia2> ok
[18:15] <GridCube> that should have been an action instead
[18:15] <knome> GridCube, not really, with no assignee nick
[18:15] <GridCube> :P
[18:15] <pleia2> that's about it :)
[18:16] <knome> yeah
[18:16] <knome> #indo we probably need a third (and hopefully final) website sprint, more information will be on the mailing lists later
[18:16] <knome> #info we probably need a third (and hopefully final) website sprint, more information will be on the mailing lists later
[18:16] <knome> #subtopic Marketing, Artwork
[18:16] <knome> ochosi, you here?
[18:17] <knome> pleia2, what about twitter? :)
[18:17] <pleia2> #info We now have a twitter account at @XubuntuLinux
[18:17] <pleia2> #info and stickers! I've detailed how others can make them too here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Marketing#Current_projects
[18:18] <GridCube> the people from studio wanted to merge stuff with us, wasnt that something to do with wallpapers and stuff?
[18:18] <knome> GridCube, yes, but that's something they need to go through
[18:18] <GridCube> :) ok
[18:18] <knome> pleia2, what's the minimum amount of stickers, any prices?
[18:19] <pleia2> knome: depends on where you are, moo.com is in the UK and US, for me stickers start at $13 for 52 (the minimum) plus shipping
[18:19] <knome> okay
[18:20] <knome> so that's about $.25 for a sticker :)
[18:20] <knome> not too bad
[18:20] <knome> #subtopic General updates
[18:20] <knome> something else that we might want to add to the team reports, or note at the release meeting?
[18:21] <GridCube> not from me
[18:21] <madnick> knome: could you email the report?
[18:21] <knome> madnick, i can
[18:22] <madnick> to release meeting
[18:22] <madnick> awesome
[18:22] <knome> been a quiet week, but that's just calm before the storm
[18:22] <knome> madnick, btw, can you attend the meeting? i can't, i probably won't be online much whole day tomorrow
[18:22] <madnick> I likely can
[18:22] <knome> okay
[18:23] <knome> if you can't... it's just canonical bureaucracy
[18:23] <knome> ;)
[18:23] <knome> #topic Announcements
[18:23] <knome> #info No announcements.
[18:23] <knome> #topic Other Business
[18:23] <knome> any other business?
[18:23] <micahg> knome: that's not fair
[18:23] <knome> micahg, what is? :)
[18:23] <micahg> canonical bureaucracy?
[18:24] <knome> i was just kidding. but really, if it seems we can't attend even if trying moderately, it's not the end of the world.
[18:24] <madnick> I've been attending and answering questions so far
[18:24] <micahg> ok
[18:25] <knome> yeah. the idea is to be able to attend every week
[18:25] <knome> i hope to not bump into *any* surprises this cycle
[18:26] <knome> #info No other business.
[18:26] <knome> #endmeeting
[18:26] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Dec  8 18:26:59 2011 UTC.  
[18:26] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2011/xubuntu-devel.2011-12-08-18.01.moin.txt
[18:27] <astraljava> That's gotta be the world record.
[18:27] <knome> yeah
[18:27] <knome> and i was focusing on typing slowly
[18:27] <knome> so i don't do any typos
[18:27] <astraljava> I hope you don't feel bad about that one #indo.
[18:28] <knome> hehe
[18:28] <knome> http://animalsbeingdicks.com/page/14
[18:31] <astraljava> *ouch*
[18:38] <ochosi> sorry, seems i just missed the meeting
[18:39] <knome> yeah. by 12 minutes :)
[18:39] <ochosi> that's not _very_ much :)
[18:39] <knome> almost half of the meeting ;)
[18:39] <ochosi> lol
[18:39] <pleia2> knome: are we publishing the meeting notes somewhere? (I need to grab them for UWN)
[18:40] <knome> pleia2, sure.
[18:40] <knome> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[18:40] <pleia2> oh good
[18:40] <pleia2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2011-12-08 :)
[18:40] <pleia2> thanks
[18:40] <knome> i just fixed some formatting there
[18:40] <knome> might want to refresh
[18:47] <knome> skaet, we're voting about the xubuntu lts plans in our next meeting in about a week :)