[01:00] <totesmuhgoats> I originally had an ubuntu 11.10 install, I removed some packaged and installed xubuntu-desktop. I am wondering, on a normal xubuntu install, does thunar support mounting network shares?
[01:00] <totesmuhgoats> out of the box i mean
[01:02] <holstein> totesmuhgoats: i like gigolo
[01:05] <totesmuhgoats> holstein: i am gonna assume that's a package, but taken out of context that would look very different
[01:06] <holstein> totesmuhgoats: you can assume its relevant to your query :)
[01:06] <totesmuhgoats> holstein: well I was asking the question just so i would know whether it is supposed to work and i broke something with my fidgetting or whether it doesn't support it out of the box
[01:07] <holstein> totesmuhgoats: im not sure... i dont see the connect to server im used to from nautilus
[01:08] <holstein> i found gigolo, and i stopped looking
[01:08] <holstein> i see 'open location' in there
[01:08] <Crash_O-D> how do I disable everything being stuck to the top bar. say I open the properties for mouse I can't move the window or anything. I cannot maximize minimize thoughs icons are gone
[01:08] <totesmuhgoats> yea i have open location, it just brings up a text box
[01:09] <totesmuhgoats> i ask because when i hadn't yet uninstalled the unity stuff there actually a network location thing listed in the left hand column
[01:09] <Crash_O-D> before this issue happened I did a git command 4 gpointing device settings rebooted and then have this issue
[01:10] <holstein> totesmuhgoats: maybe in nautilus
[01:10] <totesmuhgoats> holstein: in nautilus and in thunar
[01:10] <holstein> mabye a plugin?
[01:10] <holstein> totesmuhgoats: i dont have that
[01:10] <totesmuhgoats> well the gvfs stuff was probably installed and i think nautilus and thunar share their "places" list
[01:10] <totesmuhgoats> but thanks for the info
[01:11] <totesmuhgoats> I have to get going for the moment, talk to you guys later
[01:12] <Crash_O-D> any help would be greatly appreciate it
[02:24] <Crash_O-D> why would my apps be stuck in 1 position not able to freely move?
[02:31] <Crash_O-D> I tried google ing it but no luck
[03:00] <Crash_O-D> How do i get xfwm4 to start always. I run it manuel and fixes issue
[03:23] <holstein> Crash_O-D: you can add that in the settings...
[03:24] <Crash_O-D> Setting?
[03:24] <holstein> menu - settings -settings manger- session and starup
[03:25] <Crash_O-D> Thanks
[03:25] <stray_> Anyone help me with Ubuntu One?
[03:26] <holstein> stray_: feel free to ask... if anyone can answer, they will :)
[03:28] <stray_> Well, I try to log in, and I get an error message saying "Method "CreateItem" with signature "a{sv}(oayay)b" on interface "org.freedesktop.Secret.Collection" doesn't exist"
[03:36] <Crash_O-D> what is the easiest way to have it on time o
[03:36] <Crash_O-D> what is the easiest way to have it auto mount a drive that is not the drive loading the xubuntu
[03:39] <holstein> Crash_O-D: i add them to /etc/fstab ...you can check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[03:39] <Crash_O-D> Thanks. My storage drive is my windows hdd
[03:39] <holstein> i say, as long as you know how to go in from a live CD and edit the /etc/fstab then you cant do too much damage :)
[04:07] <Crash_O-D> Thanks i found ntfs thing auto mounts thanks though
[04:08] <holstein> yup... its all there :)
[04:51] <ecotrump> I've lost the transparency options for my xubuntu panels and screenlets. Does anyone have any ideas for what might have happened? It happened just after I logged into a xfce session and then tried to get a xubuntu session running again.
[04:56] <ecotrump> I've lost the transparency options for my xubuntu panels and screenlets. Does anyone have any ideas for what might have happened? It happened just after I logged into a xfce session and then tried to get a xubuntu session running again.
[06:09] <ecotrump> Does anyone know why I would have lost transparency support and gained two more workspaces in Xununtu? Does anyone know what program would be controlling these features in Xubuntu?
[06:13] <well_laid_lawn> ecotrump: the transparency is from xfwm and the number of desktops from xfdesktop afaik - been through the settings manager?
[09:18] <incorrect> what service is started by 'gnome services' that handles monitors?
[09:20] <well_laid_lawn> incorrect: xfconf stores display settings in .config - I don't know what from gnome could be handling monitors
[09:24] <incorrect> it is nice just plugging a screen in and having it set up for you
[09:27] <well_laid_lawn> ohh - xfce needs a little more preperation then gnome
[09:27] <incorrect> i wonder, is there a way to configure which gnome services get started
[09:27] <well_laid_lawn> part of the reason it's lighter andd some ppl prefer that
[09:27] <incorrect> i don't mind
[09:27] <incorrect> i was just trying to start the services i wanted
[09:27] <incorrect> i like xfce the ui suits me better
[09:28] <incorrect> i just like the functionality of gnome in some areas
[09:28] <well_laid_lawn> I know nothing about gnome sorry - there's a display config in system sttings
[09:28] <well_laid_lawn> in xfce
[09:28] <incorrect> the gnome services is a tick box in the xfce session options
[09:29] <incorrect> just i have no idea which services it thinks it is starting
[12:05] <Fusrodah> Hi how do I install the shockwave flash download from Adobe?
[12:06] <well_laid_lawn> !flash
[12:06] <Fusrodah> I've got a flash tar.gz file in my download folder but I dont know what to do with it
[12:07] <well_laid_lawn> unpack it and look for a readme file
[12:08] <well_laid_lawn> clicking on it in thunar should get it unpacked
[12:08] <Fusrodah> there's a usr folder filled with tone of subfolders and a libflashplayer.so file
[12:09] <Fusrodah> dont know what thunar is,  it opened with archive manager
[12:09] <well_laid_lawn> I'd try the official method first then
[12:09] <well_laid_lawn> !thunar
[12:10] <Fusrodah> thanks for the advice but jeez what a hassle, cant it just be double clicked
[12:10] <Fusrodah> I will check the links
[12:10] <well_laid_lawn> who knows what's in the tar.gz?
[12:11] <Fusrodah> it was the shockwave flash download for linux from Adobe
[12:11] <well_laid_lawn> but how does adobe expect it to be installed? - that's why there's the supported method
[12:12] <well_laid_lawn> s/how/who/
[12:12] <well_laid_lawn> ignore that last message..
[12:14] <Fusrodah> adobe gives no instructions. I just tried the instructions you inked and got a 'failed to fetch' error message
[12:14] <Fusrodah> sorry I just got Xubuntu yesterday and it's been a nightmare getting things to work properly
[12:15] <well_laid_lawn> I can appreciate that - it takes a little more work then ubunut for some things
[12:16] <Fusrodah> where in the file system would I find ~/.mozilla/plugins
[12:19] <well_laid_lawn> the ~ means your home folder
[12:19] <well_laid_lawn> and the dot in front of mozilla means it's a hidden dir
[12:20] <well_laid_lawn> ctrl+h shows the hidden files/dirs
[12:26] <well_laid_lawn> in the file managers' view menu there is an option to show the hidden files too
[12:27] <well_laid_lawn> it shows the keyboard shortcut beside it
[12:33] <sebster> how do I make my changes permanent after I edit my monitor setup with xrandr? I can't figure it out at all. Tried several things to no avail.
[12:35] <ablomen> sebster, you can try putting it in the ~/.xinitrc file (you can create it if it does not exist)
[12:35] <well_laid_lawn> or you make a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d for it
[12:35] <well_laid_lawn> !xrandr
[12:37] <sebster> I've looked at that document before I got here and still don't understand squat. It looks pretty chaotic to me... I'll try again!
[12:38] <well_laid_lawn> maybe putting the xrandr commands in .xinitrc or autostarted apps would be easier
[12:39] <sebster> where should .xinitrc be?
[12:41] <well_laid_lawn> it's a hidden file in your home dir - it might not exist yet
[12:41] <sebster> I can't create it either, it says read only file system... why is the world against me?
[12:43] <well_laid_lawn> why would it be read only?
[12:43] <sebster> your guess is as good as mine
[12:43] <sebster> I'll try to reboot since I've probably killed the whole OS. I'm sure I'll be back soon...
[12:44] <well_laid_lawn> luck
[13:04] <jmcantrell_> network manager shows "device not ready" under wireless, but my wireless seems to be working. anyone know what my problem might be?
[13:35] <sebx> I'm trying to get my dual monitor setup changes to be persistent. I've got the xrandr script that executes the changes but I can't get it to run automatically. I tried putting .xinitrc into the home directory, and the /etc/skel directory, which is what it said in the ArchLinux documentation. How is it supposed to work?
[13:35] <baizon> sebx: try arandr :)
[13:37] <sebx> that still doesn't make the changes persistent
[13:37] <sebx> afaik arandr is a gui for xrandr but it's the same in the end = not persistent
[13:38] <sebx> am I the only person in the world using more than one monitor? I'm shocked at how badly this is supported.
[13:40] <Sysi> sebx: settings -> sessions and startup -> autostart
[13:41] <sebx> I don't seem to have a sessions and startup option...
[13:42] <DemonWitch> hey i installed ubuntu on a 8gb stick and i have hardly any space left. Can i erase those? /usr/share/doc and/or  /usr/src
[13:43] <baizon> DemonWitch: sudo (apt-get autoremove, apt-get autoclean, localepurge)
[13:47] <DemonWitch> baizon: what about /usr/src?
[13:48] <baizon> DemonWitch: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=809121
[13:48] <baizon> DemonWitch: and http://serverfault.com/questions/87341/ubuntu-usr-is-full-up-recommend-anything-in-there-i-can-delete
[13:50] <DemonWitch> baizon: /usr/share/doc
[13:50] <DemonWitch> is this where manual pages are?
[13:51] <baizon> yes
[13:51] <baizon> but i think its better to remove the packages, like <packagename>-doc
[13:53] <DemonWitch> baizon: whats the difference?
[13:54] <baizon> if you delete it manually, maybe you delete "to much"
[13:59] <DemonWitch> baizon: is there a way to disable getting doc packages for new things i download?
[14:07] <baizon> hmm ok got dual-view but the second desktop is the default desktop, not xubuntu. Any ideas how to fix that?
[14:14] <DemonWitch> how can i change grub2 boot options?
[14:15] <knome> !grub2
[14:15] <DemonWitch> knome: i need to remove windows from boot options
[14:16] <knome> see the latter link in the message
[14:49] <GridCube> my media keys on the keyboard have lost their superpowers
[14:49] <GridCube> :(
[14:50] <baizon> my keyboard never had that power :(
[14:50] <baizon> my laptop is "to new" :P
[14:51] <ablomen> GridCube, did you try checking "Run gnome services on startup" in the sessions config menu?
[14:51] <GridCube> :(
[14:52] <GridCube> nope i just figure it, i tried to up the volumen
[14:52] <GridCube> it worked
[14:52] <GridCube> i mean before
[14:53] <ablomen> well see if it is checked, for me certain keys work without, but others dont, while with it on all work
[14:54] <GridCube> i have a lot of password gnome stuff but no services
[14:54] <ablomen> GridCube, its in the advanced tab
[14:54] <GridCube> oh
[14:55] <GridCube> i found it
[14:55] <GridCube> checked
[14:55] <GridCube> but it used to work
[14:55] <ablomen> well try logging out and in again and see if it works now
[14:59] <GridCube> mmhm
[15:04] <GridCube> not cool
[15:04] <GridCube> keys still do not work
[15:04] <GridCube> and now my desktop is blue
[15:06] <baizon> GridCube: xD
[15:08] <Disqualified> how do i edit the tty terminal messages that appear when i console login ?
[15:15] <jmcantrell> network manager shows "device not ready" under wireless, but my wireless seems to be working. anyone know what my problem might be?
[15:25] <Disqualified> how  can i check the remaining free space of my root partition? (its also encrypted, but now its open that i use it)
[15:27] <baizon> df -h
[15:30] <baizon> or du -h
[15:30] <baizon> i always forget
[15:47] <mash> d
[15:47] <GridCube> baizon, i disable that gnome thingy
[16:02] <mash> d
[16:33] <DaBaus> how can i run a bash command at boot always?
[16:36] <Sysi> DaBaus: as your user?
[18:31] <sebx> is it possible to change the master volume via keyboard shortcuts? I can't find anything that works for me
[18:42] <Myrtti> sebx: I don't see why not, I think I personally used aumix for the job some time ago
[18:42] <Myrtti> easier methods probably exist
[18:43] <sebx> I'm trying to figure out who is in charge of volume. It seems that alsa isn't doing the master volume. This is such a ballache. At first glance I loved XFCE but I've spent all day trying to get the most basic things to work and I'm still not getting there.
[18:45] <sebx> got aumixer installed and get this error trying to "aumixer -v +" : "error opening mixer: No such file or directory"
[18:52] <TheSheep> sebx: pulseaudio is in charge
[18:53] <sebx> can that do anything with the sound? I've bumped into pulseaudio but didn't go anywhere with hit. Is there a volumeup/down?
[18:53] <TheSheep> sebx: also, volume keys work out of the box
[18:53] <sebx> don't have any on my keyboard
[18:55] <Sysi> does settings shortcut for "amixer 5%+ Master" work?
[18:55] <TheSheep> some time ago, when it didn't work in beta I used amixer
[18:55] <Sysi> settings gnome services to launh on startup and using gnome settings is also possible
[18:55] <TheSheep> amixe set 'Master' '1+'
[18:56] <TheSheep> amixer
[18:56] <sebx>  Unable to find simple control 'Master',0
[18:57] <sebx> gnome services? I don't understand how that will get me there
[18:58] <Sysi> settings -> sessions and startup, set them to launch, then open gnome-system-settings or something and set keys the way you like, if it's possible on gnome
[18:59] <sebx> I'll try that brb
[19:02] <sebx> I went to Session and Startup, Advanced, Launch GNOME services at startup. That just gave me an onscreen keyboard. What would this do to volume? Where should I be able to set keyboard shortcuts?
[19:03] <sebx> does nobody else adjust their volume? I really don't get it
[19:05] <Sysi> amixer command is working for me
[19:06] <Sysi> gnome services by itself won't do much, install and open that systemsettings-thingy of gnome
[19:07] <sebx> what command does work for you and amixer?
[19:07] <Sysi> the one you reported to not work
[19:07] <sebx> I'm cursed. Absolutely nothing is working for me.
[19:08] <sebx> can't even remove amixer to try and install it again. waaaaaaaah
[19:09] <Sysi> have you tried gnome3 fallback/classic if you don't like unity?
[19:10] <Sysi> it wasn't very bad on 3.2 I think 11.10 has
[19:10] <sebx> I've used Kubuntu, Ubuntu 10&11 and I find that they are either full of crap or ugly. I loved Xubuntu initially but can't get dual monitor or even volume controls to work. It's ridiculous
[19:11] <sebx> I'm trying to find a version that does it for me and love the speed of xubuntu but yeah, it's doing very little very fast for me
[19:16] <sebx> thanks for your help, I'm off to go sobb
[19:56] <ola_> hi
[19:56] <ola_> can anyone can help me install camera drivers for acer travelmate 2490?
[19:57] <ola_> i'm new to xubuntu
[19:57] <micahcowan> searched everywhere, not finding an answer. I have a working compose key (using "menu" key, via ~/.Xcompose; xev verifies that it reports as Multi_key). However, it doesn't _do_ anything (<Multi_key> <'> <'e> produces 'e). Any help?
[19:59] <holstein> ola_: its probably already working... try installing something like cheese to confirm
[19:59] <holstein> micahcowan: mabye the keyboard layout?
[20:01] <micahcowan> holstein, well, I went under "Settings Manager" -> "Keyboard", and tried a few different US variations, but not much luck there
[20:01] <ola_> I've some problem with skype
[20:01] <ola_> in cheese i have picture but it's not right
[20:01] <holstein> ola_: i would test with something like cheese... skype is not open
[20:01] <micahcowan> (FWIW, my locale is set to ja_JP.utf8 - gives me more opportunity for Japanese practice)
[20:11] <ola_> in cheese my camera works but I have no picture in skype:(
[20:11] <ola_> and I need skype with picture
[20:12] <ola_> how can I check which drivers for camera I need to skype?
[20:28] <Crash_O-D_AFP> Anyone know the install instructions for utorrent?
[20:36] <well_laid_lawn> !info utorrent
[20:36] <holstein> Crash_O-D: for a torrent? or utorrent?.. you can search in the repositories?
[20:38] <Crash_O-D> I know but utorrent not in there. I downloaded from there site due to that. But can not find install instructions
[20:38] <holstein> Crash_O-D: you dont download from there site
[20:38] <holstein> you just download a torrent manager fromt he repos
[20:38] <Crash_O-D> Utorrent was very nice to me in windows why i like it small, light
[20:39] <holstein> Crash_O-D: you can use WINE to run windows applications in ubuntu/linux
[20:40] <holstein> Crash_O-D: i suggest when first migrating, to try the native applications
[20:40] <holstein> there are lots of torrent clients
[20:40] <holstein> transmission is the normal one
[20:40] <Crash_O-D> Do they have wine working better when i tryed wine years ago when i first tryed linux it did not like me lol. One reason i stoped trying linux not much help years ago i could find
[20:42] <Crash_O-D> Transmission is small also cool. Thanks
[20:42] <holstein> Crash_O-D: WINE works perfectly, just like it always did
[20:42] <holstein> the support for certain windows apps is arguably better all the time
[20:44] <holstein> http://appdb.winehq.org/
[20:46] <Crash_O-D> Back then it had trobble running some apps right. i dont remember what apps or what os at time but looks like it got better. Thanks. I will try transmission though. Since small so should be light thanks so much
[21:06] <Crash_O-D> sorry my droid x2 reboot kicking me from chat
[21:21] <TheSheep> Crash_O-D: don't worry, nobody cares ;)
[21:22] <Crash_O-D> TheSheep: I dislike it restarting on its own. since i like irc on there :)
[22:39] <ChristopherNG> hello i need urgent help
[22:39] <ChristopherNG> !hello
[22:39] <vincent_ardern> what do you need help with?
[22:40] <ChristopherNG> second
[22:41] <ChristopherNG> My problem is that my drive is not longer being recognized by Ubuntu, xubuntu or even windows..
[22:42] <ChristopherNG> I have tried mounting it every way, cli and using the gui
[22:42] <ChristopherNG> but I cant access it via my laptop
[22:42] <vincent_ardern> sounds like the drive might be physically broken. could you try another enclosure?
[22:42] <ChristopherNG> I was booting arch from that external drive
[22:42] <vincent_ardern> does the bios recognise it?
[22:43] <ChristopherNG> Yes it appears there but it does not boot it
[22:43] <ChristopherNG> ive tried
[22:43] <vincent_ardern> that's beyond my capabilities then i'm afraid. sorry
[22:44] <ChristopherNG> Do you think flashing the bios would help?
[22:44] <vincent_ardern> the general ubuntu channel is probably more useful for this question
[22:44] <vincent_ardern> i doubt flashing the bios would change anything
[22:45] <ChristopherNG> ok well i think alot of this problem is because ive got about 4 or 5 different operating systems on about 3 machines and things get messed up.
[22:45] <ChristopherNG> i need to really just stick to one thing to make all this easier, but they all have different good and bad.
[22:46] <ChristopherNG> ubuntu, xubuntu, windows, arch and gentoo
[22:46] <ChristopherNG> thanks anyway
[23:02] <jmcantrell> network manager shows "device not ready" under wireless, but my wireless seems to be working. anyone know what my problem might be?
[23:05] <andres-kain> sorry, jmcantrell i do not know much but does login out fix it? do you have a wireless hardware switch?
[23:05] <sheperson> How can I remove gmusicbrowser from the volume applet?
[23:05] <jmcantrell> no and yes
[23:06] <jmcantrell> andres-kain: ^
[23:07] <andres-kain> does flicking the hardware switch turn it on and off?