[00:32] <Folklore> "I'm thinking on moving to Suse. The main reasin is that Ubuntu is very dedicated to Gnome, and Kubuntu has bad support... I prefer KDE. Who uses Kubuntu, desn't think this also?"
[00:32] <Folklore> is this true?
[00:32] <Folklore> am tryin to install os with kde for code testing
[00:36] <holstein> Folklore: you can use kubuntu, or install KDE in ubuntu, or any of the other *buntu's, or any other distro... all should have KDE in the repositories
[00:37] <Folklore> why does kubuntu exist then
[00:37] <holstein> Folklore: its ubuntu with KDE, and other customizations
[00:37] <holstein> out of the box, kubuntu is a certain look and feel
[00:38] <mase_work> and also Ubuntu / Kubuntu is supposed to be easy so asking a user which desktop they prefer when they have no idea what a desktop is, is counter productive
[00:39] <holstein> yeah, putting in a disk and being asked 'kde or gnome' and saying 'wonder what that means' ;)
[00:39] <holstein> i remember that
[00:40] <holstein> Folklore: theres also no reason to "install" a kde os.. you can run one live for testing an application
[00:40] <Ddpbf> KDE os?
[00:40] <Folklore> its an application I wrote
[00:41] <Folklore> trying to port it, so can't do the livecd thing need it to save stuff
[00:41] <holstein> Folklore: right... load the live CD... test the application
[00:41] <Folklore> it needs to save to the hardware, so I can dev it
[00:41] <Folklore> live cd only saves to mem
[00:42] <holstein> OK.. i assume virtualization is not an option
[00:42] <Folklore> yeah im running it in vbox
[00:42] <holstein> anyways.. suse has a nice KDE implementation too... i say either one will work fine
[00:42] <holstein> i usually find my way back to buntu becuase of the community
[00:42] <Folklore> holstein funny you mention that, am downloading opensuse right now
[00:42] <Folklore> I tried fedora but fedora too brutal on system resources, needs ovee 700mbs to install
[00:43] <Folklore> and was maxin my cpu non-stop
[00:43] <Folklore> for their kde version
[00:43] <Folklore> 700mbs being the ram
[00:43] <Folklore> over that
[00:43] <holstein> Folklore: you dont go to KDE to be light on resources
[00:44] <Folklore> I don't go to it to wreck my hardware either
[00:45] <Folklore> pcbsd has kde and isn't so hardcore(freebsd+kde)
[00:46] <holstein> Folklore: isnt that an older verion?
[00:47] <holstein> anyways, you can lighten it up in kubuntu im sure, but when i want light, i go LXDE
[00:47] <Ddpbf> holsteind: KDE could be ultralight also just  look this http://paste.kde.org/156794/
[00:47] <Ddpbf> KDE on Pentium III
[00:47] <Folklore> holstein yeah, lubuntu is my favorite nix os atm
[00:47] <Folklore> incredibly fast, great on resources
[00:47] <Folklore> uses lxde
[00:48] <Ddpbf> Folklore: it use half of gnome and lxde
[00:48] <Ddpbf> lxde is 7 mb
[00:48] <Ddpbf> even less
[00:48] <holstein> see.. you should talk to Ddpbf, Folklore ... see how he/she has it configured
[00:48] <Ddpbf> He definetley
[00:49] <StepNjump> I no longer can log on to my profile on kubuntu since I changed the name of a file in the name $media$*.arc. Do any of you know this file under kubuntu?
[00:49] <Folklore> holstein im not a linux guy
[00:49] <holstein> Folklore: right.. but Ddpbf is
[00:49] <Folklore> thats like matrix text to me
[00:49] <holstein> and is using KDE on a p3
[00:49] <holstein> if you say its heavy, i agree, and thats the man to help you slim it down
[00:49] <Folklore> not trying to waste lot of his time, maybe he'll be so kind to make a quick write up for noobs or something
[00:49] <Folklore> so all can benefit
[00:49] <holstein> ?
[00:49] <Ddpbf> Holstein, this is my friend acctaully, i have few years newer maching
[00:49] <holstein> Folklore: is it installed?
[00:49] <Folklore> step by step kinda thing
[00:49] <Ddpbf> *machine
[00:50] <holstein> just test the application
[00:50] <Ddpbf> he just show me this
[00:50] <Ddpbf> few hours ago
[00:50] <holstein> im not clear on what the issue is Folklore ?
[00:50] <Ddpbf> :)
[00:50] <holstein> if you are not wanting to waste time, just install kubuntu, and test
[00:50] <Folklore> is his friends box holstein
[00:50] <holstein> Folklore: ?
[00:51] <Ddpbf> Folklore:  do you want just
[00:51] <Ddpbf> essential KDE
[00:51] <Ddpbf> not full strenght
[00:51] <StepNjump> is there a way to decrypt .encryptfs using just my password (not the passphrase)
[00:51] <StepNjump> from the terminal?
[00:51] <Folklore> dbpbf yup
[00:52] <Ddpbf> sudo apt-get isntall kde-plasma-desktop
[00:52] <Ddpbf> *install
[00:52] <Ddpbf> it is  the bare-minimum required of KDE
[00:52] <Folklore> I do that after installing kubuntu?
[00:52] <Ddpbf> err
[00:53] <Ddpbf> do it from your lubuntu/ubuntu/xubuntu
[00:53] <Ddpbf> whatever do you use
[00:53] <Folklore> do I gotta edit autostart script or anything
[00:53] <Ddpbf> also there is metapackage kde-minimal
[00:53] <Folklore> or will the two cmds above get it done
[00:53] <Ddpbf> nope
[00:53] <Folklore> and I can just boot into kde
[00:53] <Ddpbf> you will get kdm with it also
[00:54] <Ddpbf> so you could start kde session
[00:54] <Ddpbf> That way you could see if you like KDE
[00:54] <Ddpbf> and decide if you want to switch to kubuntu
[00:56] <Folklore> i've used kde before
[00:56] <Folklore> i just want a kde setup to test install code, like right click menu entry
[00:56] <Folklore> icons, etc...
[00:56] <Folklore> xdg-mime seems broken on lubuntu
[00:56] <holstein> Folklore: then install those pacakges Ddpbf mentioned, and test :)
[00:56] <Folklore> and I need that to register file types, might just do it manually
[00:57] <Folklore> thanks ddpbf
[00:57] <Ddpbf> np
[00:57] <Ddpbf> :)
[03:18] <trudell> !help
[06:57] <userpc> hi all. suddenly my 10.04 system lost the wireless network connection. when i am log in the system doesn't ask me for the password to access the route and when i click on network icon on my task bar the tip says that is "unmanaged". under system settings/network connections i canfind my wirelessconnection and everything seems ok there but the system doesn't try to connect. also does not scan
[06:57] <userpc> for otehr wireless networks. any idea? i have to mention that everything was ok until i try to set my notebook to hibernate posistionbut it failed so i clicked on/off button and when the system restarted the network was dead. any idea? pls help me, it's important as i haven't any connection to internet through this notebook.
[06:58] <userpc> i must add that when i makea right click on network icon on my task bar i get "network managment is disabled"
[07:10] <userpc> maybe i found a solution using google. how can i replace a /root file?
[07:13] <AmR|EiSa> Hello
[07:14] <AmR|EiSa> how i can add my  language to the system ?
[07:16] <userpc> i fixed it!
[07:20] <AmR|EiSa> how i can add my arabic lanuage to my  Kubuntu 11.10 ?
[07:24] <AmR|EiSa> Hello
[07:24] <LINKSWORD2> Hey guys... I've had to go back to a previous distro of Kubuntu, version 9.10 and when I attempt to upgrade, it says something like "Distro upgrade failed. Code 127."
[07:30] <AmR|EiSa> Hello
[07:30] <iazeroth> hi
[07:31] <AmR|EiSa> how i can add my  language to the my system Kubuntu 11.10 ?
[07:32] <iazeroth> what is your language ?
[07:32] <AmR|EiSa> arabic
[07:33] <iazeroth> hm dont know, i can help with russian/ukrainian
[07:33] <AmR|EiSa> any lang
[07:33] <AmR|EiSa> it's the same
[07:34] <AmR|EiSa> i need to add it to the system not gui lanuage
[07:34] <AmR|EiSa> interface language
[07:34] <AmR|EiSa> not interface language
[07:35] <iazeroth> you just need to add language packs and i dont know when you can get arabic
[07:37] <AmR|EiSa> how i can add it for system tools ?
[07:38] <Guest17574> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Arabic
[07:42] <Guest17574> thi is for ubuntu- in kubuntu should be the same   http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17528/change-the-user-interface-language-in-ubuntu/
[07:50] <r3v0> I just wanna say I recently converted from ubuntu to kubuntu and I'm loving it its amazing
[07:52] <Guest17574> what is the differance you like?
[07:54] <r3v0> Guest17574: kde its better than unity
[07:54] <r3v0> Overall its faster too
[07:57] <Guest17574> ok- i have ubuntu for about 8 y and do not know kubuntu side- i installed once but intercace was to differant to ubuntu and change back to ubuntu
[07:59] <r3v0> I got sick of unity it didn't work for mr
[08:01] <Guest17574> so you should i try kubuntu once again than...  what will be working better when i change from ubuntu?
[08:03] <Guest17574> sorry- should be - so should i try kubuntu once again
[08:05] <r3v0> Yeah
[08:12] <Guest17574> im using computer just for internet, downloading torrents and play video and music--- will be there anything better comming from ubuntu?
[08:14] <r3v0> Well not really
[11:14] <kamilnadeem> HI
[11:14] <kamilnadeem> What is the name of tool box that is on the screen in KDE when it is placed in the corner of the screen?
[11:14] <kamilnadeem> brb
[11:18] <Guest29350> anybody out there?
[12:00] <jubo2> Hi.. I have a problem with Kubuntu.. The Wlan doesn't connect, it just fails in a blink of an eye
[12:01] <jubo2> only way to make it connect is to remove the wlan basestation from the known networks and re-add it then the wlan connects _once_
[12:02] <jubo2> btw. Nice job bolting in the full screen task switcher .. people switching from Mapples will find it comfortable
[12:06] <jubo2> any help would be appreciated. I've already evaluated Xubuntu and find it ridden with small but annoying bugs. Now I'm looking at Kubuntu..
[12:14] <TheKro> Hi - can anyone help me get my USB mobile broadband modem working?  It's working on my netbook, but not on my laptop... (I'm running Lucid)
[12:14] <Peace-> jubo2: i am rehe
[12:14] <Peace-> jubo2: are you here?
[12:15] <Peace-> TheKro: lsusb
[12:15] <Peace-> TheKro: do you know the widget pastebin ?
[12:15] <TheKro> Peace-: lsusb picks it up
[12:15] <TheKro> Peace-: I'll paste it there
[12:15] <Peace-> TheKro: sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-past*
[12:15] <TheKro> Device is: Bus 002 Device 006: ID 12d1:14d1 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
[12:16] <Peace-> TheKro: ok , my code is wrong sorry , but anyway paste is a plasmoid you should have it
[12:17] <Peace-> TheKro: iwconfig now
[12:17] <TheKro> no matches found for plasma-widget-past*
[12:18] <TheKro> http://pastebin.com/eg9CG2Ci <- pan0: no wireless extensions
[12:18] <Peace-> TheKro:  btw see this http://blip.tv/PeaceForlinux/postare-uno-screenshot-velocemente-con-kde4-4894119
[12:18] <Peace-> TheKro: what is wlan0 ?
[12:18] <TheKro> Peace: my wireless
[12:18] <Peace-> TheKro: another card?
[12:19] <TheKro> Peace-: yeah
[12:19] <jubo2> Peace-: yes.. another bug is that no irc client has sounds on for channel or dialog stalk .. this was on Xubuntu and Kubuntu .. other sounds work ok but no irc clients
[12:20] <Peace-> TheKro: i guess it should work nfact i have found a forum for ubuntu
[12:20] <Peace-> TheKro: found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11523673
[12:23] <TheKro> Peace-: the description in the first half worked on my other computer, but not this one; the stuff in the second half still didn't work for me (14c9 target product files aren't on my system)
[12:29] <TheKro> Peace-: made some progress from that link, thanks - the extra spaces of the original poster were in my config file strings, breaking things
[12:31] <Peace-> jubo2:  i use konversation for irc
[12:31] <Peace-> jubo2: you can configure konversation or quassell to do something
[12:38] <ThSenior> hi guys
[12:38] <ThSenior> is there possible to run a command from a taskbar icon?
[12:45] <Peace-> ThSenior: ?
[12:58] <jubo2> Peace-: the thing is that the "pre-listen" sound plays ok in the  settings panel but when it should sound "in the real world" it just simply doesn't :(
[13:22] <Peace-> jubo2: quassel konversation or what?
[13:23] <jubo2> quassel. now just I got the bubble and the *plingk*
[13:23] <Peace-> jubo2: i use konversation so... i don't know but you could join on #quassel
[13:23] <Peace-> and ask there
[13:24] <jubo2> I've tried asking there
[13:24] <Peace-> mm
[13:24] <Peace-> wait i will try with systemsettings
[13:25] <jubo2> but is a major bug that the connection to wlan basestations requires you to remove and re-add the network you want to connect to
[13:25] <Peace-> jubo2: have you tried to do something here ? http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/09/plasma-desktopMV4892.jpg
[13:26] <Peace-> jubo2: mmm ? you could try wicd-kde
[13:26] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install wicd-kde
[13:28] <Peace-> Peace-: test
[14:42] <jasmin> hiii
[14:42] <jasmin> err : iperf -s
[14:42] <jasmin> bind failed: Address already in use
[14:44] <jasmin> hii friend
[14:45] <jasmin> any pls help out
[14:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:53] <e01> hello
[14:53] <e01> is available some ppa for the beta
[14:53] <BluesKaj> hi
[14:54] <BluesKaj> e01, ppa for what ?
[14:55] <Peace-> BluesKaj: gues kde 4.8 beta2
[14:55] <e01> 4.7.90 :)
[14:56] <Peace-> e01: kubuntu.org => news
[14:56] <Peace-> e01: if there is the news there is the ppa
[14:56] <Peace-> if there is not the new ==> no ppa
[14:56] <Peace-> fi
[14:56] <Peace-> fi
[14:57] <e01> mhm
[14:57] <BluesKaj> e01, can you say kde , there are lots of ppas
[14:58] <e01> i was take a look yesterday, there is no official beta for 4.8, i just asked for some fan, if it maked own already and you guys knows, not more ;)
[14:59] <Peace-> e01: there is the neon-project
[14:59] <Peace-> e01: it should build kde daily or weekly
[14:59] <Peace-> !neon
[14:59] <Peace-> e01: and of course there is the ppa
[14:59] <Peace-> but it's not stable :)
[15:00] <Peace-> so.... if you want a stable release you should use kubuntu.org to see when it will be released , instead if you are brave.... you could try neon
[15:01]  * Peace- switch to project-neon session
[15:01] <BluesKaj> !bg | e01
[15:02] <e01> :) heh
[15:02] <BluesKaj> pea , he's using a translator which is just garbling what he's trying to say
[15:02] <e01> thanks
[15:02] <e01> project neon is exactly what i looking for
[15:03] <e01> BluesKaj, not, i am not using translator, just mine translation skills are terrible
[15:03] <e01> i am excuse for
[15:04] <BluesKaj> e01, I tried the neon project ..found it disappointing , but that's my opinion
[15:05] <BluesKaj> you might like it
[15:07] <e01> BluesKaj, i just want to see the news in the kde4.8 but i have no enough time to compile it on my broken ubuntu 12 :D
[15:08] <e01> and more, want to see if kwin is optimized as the devs says and will resize really smoothly than before
[15:09] <BluesKaj> e01, well, I hope so too , but I'll wait until 4.8 is officially released
[15:09] <BluesKaj> I'm also running 12.04
[15:11] <e01> just i was take a tour between the DEs for testing only, after test and the kde, i think to return to the 11.04 again
[15:17] <BluesKaj> KDE has been my favourite DE , since I started using linux
[15:19] <BluesKaj>  kde3 beta , 2001
[15:20] <Peace-> BluesKaj: :)
[15:25] <BluesKaj> Peace-, I tried the most popular linux distros ,starting with debian and redhat, mandrake , fedora, suse, etc , but I returned to debian then settled for ubuntu/kubuntu in 2005
[15:25] <Peace-> BluesKaj: everytime i want switch to other distro :D i feel lazy and i stay with kubuntu
[15:26] <Xmann> Hi
[15:26] <Xmann> i have a question?
[15:26] <Peace-> ....
[15:27] <Peace-> !ask | Xmann
[15:27] <Xmann> Is lightdm better than kdm or gdm?
[15:27] <Peace-> !better
[15:28] <Xmann> Does lightdm make system boot faster?
[15:28] <Xmann> ???
[15:28] <Peace-> boot?
[15:29] <Xmann> Yes
[15:29] <Peace-> ldm is a program
[15:29] <Peace-> and boot is the kernel
[15:29] <Xmann> Comparing to gdm ,kdm
[15:29] <BluesKaj> Xmann, dunno , this is a kubuntu support chat , kubuntu uses kdm, ask in #ubuntu
[15:29] <Peace-> BluesKaj: :)
[15:30] <Peace-> Xmann: btw ldm is a program that is started after boot is done
[15:30] <Peace-> so... kdm gdm or ldm doesn't matter
[15:30] <Xmann> lightdm is a display manager
[15:30] <BluesKaj> yes we know , it's an ubuntu DM by defaylt
[15:31] <Peace-> BluesKaj: you scared him hihihi
[15:31] <BluesKaj> good
[15:31] <Peace-> i am on project-neon-session
[15:31] <Peace-> it's no so bad
[15:31] <Peace-> some crash  :D
[15:32] <BluesKaj> well, glad you like it ..I'm not a fan
[15:33] <BluesKaj> it's good that some ppl experiment , I'm just tired of the problems Peace- :)
[15:34] <e01> BluesKaj, kde looks good i was using to 3.5.10 but with 4 i switch to xfce then gnome
[15:35] <e01> just most of apps that i am using are on gtk and i hate the toolkit difference looking and fs functionality
[15:35] <BluesKaj> e01, if you want the default 12.04 kde . it's  4.7.3
[15:36] <yang__> ?
[15:36] <e01> 12.04 will be with 4.7 ? or for now is with 4.7
[15:36] <BluesKaj> e01, understandable , but run the kde desktop , and associated kde apps and you'll notice a big difference
[15:37] <yang__> ?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> 12.04 is kde4.7.3 ..I'm running it
[15:38] <BluesKaj> yang__, have a question ?
[15:38] <yang__> anybody hear me?
[15:38] <yang__> nothing ,
[15:38] <e01> no, u r in parallel world
[15:38] <e01> (chuckle)
[15:38] <BluesKaj> yang__, yes we see you
[15:38] <yang__> i get here frist
[15:39] <yang__> i don`t know  i am in room or not
[15:39] <yang__> thanks
[15:40] <Peace-> yang__: yes you are in
[15:41] <yang__> HA
[15:42] <e01> but if you had a proof that prove, you are not in room let we check :D
[15:42] <BluesKaj> hit the wrong keys and the client crashed
[15:43] <yang__> 277 USERS but nobody talk
[15:43] <BluesKaj> he can't see the text
[15:43] <e01> BluesKaj, this is nothing, i slept with wrong girl, and my gf leave me
[15:44] <BluesKaj> I don't blame her :)
[15:44] <e01> i had nothing to say, just i testing DEs and distros to spent my time :|
[15:45] <yang__> wrong girl ?
[15:47] <e01> BluesKaj, what distro arch u using, i386 or x64 ?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> 64bit
[15:48] <e01> do u have theme problems with the skype
[15:48] <BluesKaj> skype works ok , I don't worry about skype themes much
[15:48] <e01> hm
[15:49] <e01> what about the stability, when i was on kde it crashes often, even i am using stable releases
[15:50] <BluesKaj> as long as any theme looks fine and doesn't crash plasma , then I'll use it ..themes just window dressing to me
[15:51] <yang__>  
[15:52] <Peace-> e01: here on stable release it works fine wihtout problem
[15:52]  * e01 like yang__'s comment
[15:52] <Peace-> e01: with project-neon yes there are crhash
[15:53] <e01> Peace-, i ask for the stables, i mean 11.04 11.10, first time i install kubuntu 11.10 it crash instant after first starts
[15:53] <Peace-> no
[15:53] <Peace-> i have no issue for stable
[15:53] <yang__> ?
[15:54] <e01> seems that only i had such problems :(
[15:54] <Peace-> e01: video card?
[15:54] <Peace-> e01: how did yoi install the system?
[15:55] <Peace-> fresh ? upgrade ?
[15:55] <Peace-> sound like a video problem with kwin
[15:55] <e01> fresh, i always make fresh installs
[15:55] <Peace-> video card?
[15:55] <e01> ati radeon 5650
[15:55] <Peace-> hahahahhahaha
[15:55] <Peace-> ati :)
[15:56] <e01> xa-xa nvidia
[15:56] <e01> :P
[15:56] <e01> in the desktop i had gf8600gt
[15:56] <e01> it crashes as well as in laptop
[15:57] <Peace-> you should read about log
[15:57] <Peace-> to understand what is
[15:57] <Peace-> btw i had an intel and it never crashed
[15:57] <e01> just can't imaginate how on i7 with 8gb ram and such video, the system can be slow if i start few apps
[15:58] <Peace-> e01: mmm there is some problem on the hardware or in the driver
[15:58] <Peace-> kde must fly on i7 and 8gb of ram
[15:58] <yang__>  Peace- my mouse often stop work
[15:58] <Peace-> yang__: kernel bug ?
[15:59] <yang__> sometime mouse can move but cant click
[16:00] <Peace-> yang__: it's a kernel bug
[16:00] <yang__> eh
[16:00] <Peace-> yang__: i had a mouse of trust that was recognized in the old linux
[16:00] <Peace-> now no :D
[16:00] <e01> yang__, it's not only in kde, in gnome there are same
[16:00] <e01> ;)
[16:00] <Peace-> it can only move the wheel
[16:00] <yang__> eh
[16:03] <Peace-> yang__:or you waste time trying to fix your problem or you go in a market and buy an logitech or hp mouse
[16:03] <Peace-> that works
[16:04] <e01> money solving problems
[16:04] <e01> :)
[16:04] <yang__> Peace-:  Are Gnome 3  able run in WINDOWS
[16:05] <e01> yang__, yes if you can install all the requirements ;)
[16:05] <yang__> HP mouse?
[16:05] <Peace-> new mouse?
[16:06] <jubokubuntu> I'm experiencing bugs.. the wlan does not connect to the base station if I don't totally remove it and then re-add it inserting WPA2 shared secret :( :( :(
[16:06] <e01> from the future :D
[16:06] <jubokubuntu> I used to have Xubuntu but that also failed in using keyring properly to hold passwords
[16:06] <Peace-> jubokubuntu: sudo apt-get install wicd-kde
[16:07] <jubokubuntu> Peace-: what does that install ?
[16:07] <Peace-> jubokubuntu: wicd client with qt interface
[16:07] <Peace-> !wicd-kde
[16:07] <jubokubuntu> I don't know what is wicd
[16:07] <Peace-> jubokubuntu: you wanna try the solution or what?
[16:09] <yang__> but  Where `s  Future, Ebay??ALIBABA?
[16:09] <yang__> e01: ?
[16:10] <jubokubuntu> Peace-: how do I run it now that I've installed it ?
[16:10] <Peace-> jubokubuntu: go in a terminal and run wicd-kde
[16:11] <e01> yang__, in the clocks
[16:12] <e01> you can pass it without the problems and now, just get sleep for few years and when you get up, you will be in the future ;)
[16:14] <jasmin> hellooo
[16:14] <maiz> jasmin: helloo
[16:15] <maiz> what is the best dekstop recording for ubuntu ?
[16:15] <maiz> I mean kubuntu..
[16:16] <Peace-> maiz: well i often record the desktop
[16:16] <Peace-> maiz: and i use ffmpeg
[16:16] <Peace-> :)
[16:17] <jasmin> maizhi
[16:17] <jasmin> maiz, hiii
[16:17] <maiz> Peace-: thank you for the reply, anyone else..cause now I instlled recorditnow and recordmydesktop
[16:17] <Peace-> maiz: recordmydestkop is huge
[16:17] <Peace-> on resources
[16:17] <jasmin> maiz, how do i use iperf tool
[16:18] <jasmin> maiz, on my vm
[16:18] <Peace-> recorditnow i duno i don't like and it use recorditnow and ffmpeg
[16:18] <maiz> Peace-: oh, I installed the gtk-recordmydesktop..
[16:18] <Peace-> maiz: :) the worse
[16:18] <maiz> Peace-: the worse?
[16:18] <jasmin> maiz, # iperf -s bind failed: Address already in use
[16:18] <maiz> jasmin: sorry , i don't know how..
[16:19] <jasmin> any pls help me out
[16:19] <Peace-> maiz: cat /proc/asound/pcm
[16:19] <Peace-> maiz: give me the ouput
[16:19] <yang__> ?
[16:19] <maiz> Peace-: do I need to copy and paste it here right away?
[16:20] <Peace-> !paste
[16:20] <yang__> my mouse cant work
[16:21] <Peace-> !mouse
[16:21] <Peace-> !japanese | yang__
[16:22] <maiz> Peace-: err. should i give you the link or what eyh?
[16:22] <Peace-> !chinese | yang__
[16:22] <Peace-> maiz: the link
[16:22] <yang__> cant click anything
[16:22] <Peace-> yang__: china or japan ?
[16:22] <maiz> Peace-: ok thanks. here you are : http://paste.ubuntu.com/765063/plain/
[16:22] <yang__> CHINA
[16:22] <Peace-> !chinese | yang__
[16:23] <yang__> japan!!!  i would died
[16:24] <Peace-> maiz: so copy and paste this
[16:24] <Peace-> maiz: on a terminal i mean
[16:24] <Peace-> maiz: ffmpeg -f  alsa  -ac 1 -ar 48000  -i hw:0,2   -s $(xrandr  | awk '/, current /{print $8}')x$(xrandr  | awk '/, current /{gsub(/\,/,"");print $10}') -f x11grab -r 15  -i :0.0 -acodec pcm_s16le -vcodec libx264 -vpre lossless_ultrafast  -threads 2 output.mkv
[16:24] <maiz> Peace-: can I know what is this?
[16:24] <Peace-> maiz: it's ffmpeg that is recording you destkop
[16:24] <Peace-> :)
[16:24] <Peace-> and it's fast
[16:25] <maiz> Peace-: it said input/output error at the end of the line..
[16:25] <Peace-> :) well
[16:25] <Peace-> maiz: paste the error
[16:26] <maiz> Peace-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/765071/plain/
[16:29] <BluesKaj> anyone here use qBittorent, the download rate with peers maxes out at 295Bs , even on trackers with 100+ seeders
[16:29] <Peace-> maiz: try this ffmpeg -f  alsa  -ac 2 -ar 48000  -i hw:0,0   -s $(xrandr  | awk '/, current /{print $8}')x$(xrandr  | awk '/, current /{gsub(/\,/,"");print $10}') -f x11grab -r 15  -i :0.0 -acodec pcm_s16le -vcodec  ljpeg output.mkv
[16:29] <Peace-> maiz: sorry
[16:29] <maiz> Peace-: wokey dokey
[16:29] <Peace-> maiz:  ffmpeg -f  alsa  -ac 1 -ar 48000  -i hw:0,0   -s $(xrandr  | awk '/, current /{print $8}')x$(xrandr  | awk '/, current /{gsub(/\,/,"");print $10}') -f x11grab -r 15  -i :0.0 -acodec pcm_s16le -vcodec  ljpeg output.mkv
[16:30] <linxuser> last night using ktorrent I maxed at 550Bs
[16:31] <maiz> Peace-: the first one you give working , but the second command you give , give our error message.
[16:31] <Peace-> maiz: ok so use the first
[16:31] <Peace-> maiz: to stop recording press            ctrl c
[16:32] <maiz> Peace-: you need to teach me on how you understand this command etc..
[16:32] <maiz> Peace-: alright.. trying again..
[16:32] <Peace-> maiz: ffmpeg -f  alsa  -ac 2 -ar 48000  -i hw:0,0            this says to ffmpeg to capture your audio devices
[16:33] <Peace-> ac = channel so stereo
[16:33] <Peace-> 1 would be mono
[16:33] <Peace-> 48000 is the frequency
[16:33] <Peace-> -i hw etc it's the hardware "location"
[16:34] <Peace->  $(xrandr  | awk '/, current /{print $8}')x$(xrandr  | awk '/, current /{gsub(/\,/,"");print $10}')   this is the part for nerd :D
[16:34] <Peace-> it print your destkop resolution automatically
[16:34] <maiz> Peace-: "part for nerd"? haha. I like that part..hahah
[16:34] <maiz> Peace-: I think you should look at this,.error
[16:34] <maiz> Peace-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/765079/
[16:35] <Peace-> maiz: ok but stoppin with CTRL C
[16:35] <Peace-> then you can see the video ?
[16:35] <Peace-> ffplay  output.mkv
[16:37] <maiz> Peace-: I can see the video, the video are in full resolution and it is fast! wow. better than the gtk-recordmydesktop thing..
[16:37] <maiz> Peace-: but then , how can i make it work without getting error?
[16:37] <Peace-> maiz: mm i will give you my link
[16:37] <maiz> Peace-: thanks..
[16:37] <Peace-> maiz: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/05/23/how-to-screencast/
[16:38] <maiz> Peace-: this is cool enough to know. thank you Peace- :D , really appreciate it
[16:44] <maiz> Peace-: why this happen ? whenever I start to click the recording stop , http://paste.ubuntu.com/765084/
[16:47] <Peace-> maiz: readng
[16:48] <Peace-> maiz: give me the string you have used
[16:48] <maiz> Peace-: im sorry, I don't actually know where the string part I just used . hehe.
[16:48] <maiz> oh man , i need to read back all this thing..
[16:48] <Peace-> maiz: try this one
[16:49] <Peace-> it doenst record audio btw
[16:49] <Peace-> ffmpeg    -s $(xrandr  | awk '/, current /{print $8}')x$(xrandr  | awk '/, current /{gsub(/\,/,"");print $10}') -f x11grab -r 15  -i :0.0 -acodec pcm_s16le -vcodec libx264 -vpre lossless_ultrafast  -y  output.mkv
[16:49] <maiz> Peace-: I use this one : ffmpeg -f  alsa  -ac 1 -ar 48000  -i hw:0,2   -s $(xrandr  | awk '/, current /{print $8}')x$(xrandr  | awk '/, current /{gsub(/\,/,"");print $10}') -f x11grab -r 15  -i :0.0 -acodec pcm_s16le -vcodec libx264 -vpre lossless_ultrafast  -threads 2 output.mkv
[16:49] <Peace-> maiz: ok wait
[16:50] <maiz> Peace-: thanks again :)
[16:50] <Peace-> maiz: ffmpeg   -s $(xrandr  | awk '/, current /{print $8}')x$(xrandr  | awk '/, current /{gsub(/\,/,"");print $10}') -f x11grab -r 15  -i :0.0 -acodec pcm_s16le -vcodec  ljpeg output.mkv
[16:50] <Peace-> maiz: this doesn t record audio
[16:50] <Peace-> but it should work
[16:50] <maiz> Peace-: does the my audio have something to do with the error thingy?
[16:50] <Peace-> yes is the part of audio
[16:52] <maiz> Peace-: right now, it is working without any problem, what do you think that I should do to make the audio work?
[16:52] <maiz> Peace-: have any idea?
[16:52] <Peace-> maiz: i guess is a bug of ffmpeg :D
[16:53] <Peace-> maiz: but wait i am reagin
[16:53] <Peace-> readin
[16:53] <Peace-> maiz: try to use instead of ouput.mkv
[16:53] <Peace-> maiz: outpu.avi
[16:53] <maiz> Peace-: ok, with the audio?
[16:54] <Peace-> maiz:  ffmpeg -f  alsa  -ac 1 -ar 48000  -i hw:0,0   -s $(xrandr  | awk '/, current /{print $8}')x$(xrandr  | awk '/, current /{gsub(/\,/,"");print $10}') -f x11grab -r 15  -i :0.0 -acodec pcm_s16le -vcodec libx264 -vpre lossless_ultrafast  -threads 2 output.avi
[16:56] <maiz> Peace-: trying
[16:56] <Peace-> maiz: maybe if says cannot set channel count to 1 (Invalid argument)    try to put it in stereo with this
[16:56] <maiz> Peace-: [alsa @ 0x94c0a40] cannot set channel count to 1 (Invalid argument)
[16:57] <Peace-> maiz: :) ok we need stereo
[16:57] <Peace-> maiz:  ffmpeg -f  alsa  -ac 2 -ar 48000  -i hw:0,0   -s $(xrandr  | awk '/, current /{print $8}')x$(xrandr  | awk '/, current /{gsub(/\,/,"");print $10}') -f x11grab -r 15  -i :0.0 -acodec pcm_s16le -vcodec libx264 -vpre lossless_ultrafast  -threads 2 output.avi
[16:59] <maiz> Peace-: it work. thank you. but is there any chance I can increase the recording volume?
[16:59] <Peace-> maiz: kmix ?
[17:01] <maiz> Peace-: kmix?, well, i already run it up, but there is nothing..
[17:02] <maiz> Peace-: ok ok now, it just a little bit late. hehe
[17:02] <Peace-> maiz: if you add -vf scale=640:480 before the output.avi you had scaled your video to 640x480 :D
[17:03] <Peace-> maiz: for audio :D boh
[17:03] <maiz> Peace-: ok, I got it already. I increased the capture volume,
[17:03] <maiz> Peace-: ohh, thanks for tip!
[17:08] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[17:08] <kamilnadeem> When will KDE 4.7.4 be made available via PPA
[17:08] <kamilnadeem> ?
[17:08] <BluesKaj> what's the hurry ?
[17:08] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: Hi
[17:09] <kamilnadeem> Blogpost brother .
[17:09] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: mmm wait
[17:10] <Peace-> kubuntu.org => see for news
[17:10] <kamilnadeem> Peace-:  I know that Sir :-)
[17:12] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: so wait :)
[17:12] <kamilnadeem> Ok.
[17:37] <BenPA> hi all ... question, I am trying to load another os on a multiboot/partitioned laptop and getting an error because I think it's confused as to where to put the new system
[17:38] <BenPA> is there info on a workaround?
[17:43] <Peace-> BenPA: so you have to fix your grub?
[17:44] <Peace-> BenPA: if you are running your system now you could try to detect the system with linux and fix the grub
[17:44] <Peace-> !grub
[18:15] <BenPA> Peace: how do I fix grub?
[18:17] <BenPA> Peace-: please leave a respose I have to run out but will leave this open
[18:43] <Zearta> désolée, léger bug
[18:44] <genii-around> !fr
[19:24] <Kottizen> hi everyone - I just bought a new PC and I'd like to have my sound go through a HDMI cable, how'd I accomplish that?
[19:25] <Kottizen> I've set HDMI to the preferred phonon and also plugged in the HDMI cable in the nVidia graphics card HDMI input (there are two HDMI spots, one internal and one nVidia)
[19:25] <Kottizen> however... it still doesn't work and I'm not sure how to debug this
[19:28] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, I hope you connected the hdmi cable to the output , unless you're trying to capture audio
[19:28] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: ah yes, sorry - the output
[19:28] <Kottizen> oh actually
[19:28] <Kottizen> let me check
[19:31] <Kottizen> can only find one port, so I guess it's the one out
[19:32] <BluesKaj> the nvidia hdmi ?
[19:32] <Kottizen> yes
[19:33] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, is the nvidia card a separate pci graphics card  ? If so make sure you it set as default in the BIOS
[19:33] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: it is - thanks, will check that
[19:35] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, I'm not real sure about the audio settings for separate hdmi . I'm pretty sure if you set it in phonon and the test sound works . you should be ok
[19:43] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: unfortunately I haven't heard a single sound since I installed the system, not even from the test sounds
[19:48] <Kottizen> it works in Windows, just confirmed that
[19:48] <BluesKaj> Kottizen. open alsamixer in the terminal and make sure your hdmi and master ctrls are all turned up to at least 80%
[19:48] <Kottizen> how do I see which one'
[19:48] <Kottizen> 's HDMI?
[19:48] <BluesKaj> yes
[19:49] <BluesKaj> it should be labelled
[19:49] <Kottizen> this is what I see: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/09/plasma-desktopIf1491.jpg
[19:51] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, disable the automute setting
[19:51] <Kottizen> and no matter which one I choose, I always get this error (right-bottom corner): http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/09/plasma-desktopxJ1491.jpg
[19:51] <Kottizen> okay
[19:52] <Kottizen> it'd be nice to see what kind of error it actually was
[19:58] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, ok in phonon , choose the fallback hdmi option that shows in the error ,if it's listed
[19:59] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, you can check for phonon / pulseaudio errors in /var/log , if you feel like searching
[19:59] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: this is weird - only the first one causes that error - when I select any of the other ones and click Apply I don't get that error anymore
[20:00] <Kottizen> I'll do, thanks for the tup
[20:00] <Kottizen> tip
[20:00] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, can you pastebin the phonon list settings pls
[20:01] <Kottizen> where do I find it?
[20:02] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, the device preference tab in phonon
[20:03] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/09/plasma-desktopAn1491.jpg
[20:04] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, does the choice shown in you paste test ok ?
[20:04] <BluesKaj> your
[20:05] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: nope - I don't hear any sound when clicking 'Test'
[20:07] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, in the terminal, cat /proc/asound/cards
[20:09] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: I found this to be interesting (pressed F6 in alsamixer and chose the HDMI nVidia): http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/09/plasma-desktopjk1491.jpg
[20:09] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: and: http://privatepaste.com/0a36905a7f
[20:12] <BluesKaj> ok Kottizen , cat /proc/asound/modules
[20:13] <koleoptero> evening to all
[20:13] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: http://privatepaste.com/82ce069475
[20:16] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, pulseaudio , in the terminal
[20:16] <BluesKaj> is it installed
[20:17] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: yes
[20:18] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, lets try without pulse , we can always reinstall if needed , sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio , then reboot
[20:18] <Kottizen> *rebooting*
[20:19] <catalin_> hallo somebody use tangoGPS ???
[20:20] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: got this upon login: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/09/plasma-desktopKx1514.jpg
[20:20] <Kottizen> haven't chosen anything yet
[20:21] <catalin_> tangoGSM work with Google Sat???
[20:21] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, click yes
[20:22] <Kottizen> okay, done
[20:22] <BluesKaj> ok Kottizen check your phonon device preferences
[20:23] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: got a somewhat longer list now; http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/09/plasma-desktopvc1514.jpg
[20:25] <BluesKaj> ok try the hdmis and the pchs as well to see what the default is
[20:26] <Kottizen> clicked 'Test' for each one of them now, heard no sound
[20:26] <Kottizen> I let each test run for like... three seconds or so
[20:27] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, if you pass the cursor over the diffent choices the dialog will show some info, find the one gives 'Card 0'
[20:28] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, what is the other end of the hdmi connected to ?
[20:28] <Kottizen> a home cinema
[20:28] <Kottizen> I get three with CARD=0 and a few with CARD=NVidia
[20:28] <Kottizen> and the home cinema worked fine on Windows, on the same physical machine
[20:29] <BluesKaj> an are any of the hdmis card 0 ?
[20:29] <Kottizen> nope
[20:31] <BluesKaj> card 0 is the default soundcard , so we need to change it , to the nvidia hdmi
[20:32] <Kottizen> that'd be card 1 - how do I change it?
[20:33] <BluesKaj> not necessarily card 1 , open this file paste it , /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[20:40] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: http://privatepaste.com/9e01e7ca97
[20:46] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, I'm trying to determine what the hdmi module/driver could be , try, sudo lshw -C multimedia, and paste the output pls
[20:46] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: I'll be gone for an hour or so, just in case you wonder why I'm not replying
[20:46] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: http://privatepaste.com/3e3e86930b
[20:48] <BluesKaj> ok Kottizen just one more , lsmod | grep snd
[20:51] <aurimas__> Hello
[20:51] <aurimas__> Can someone help me please?
[20:52] <aurimas__> how do i run .bat files please through the terminal?
[20:55] <BluesKaj> aurimas__, http://askubuntu.com/questions/46905/make-bat-file-available-everywhere-for-the-terminal
[20:56] <aurimas__> tyvm
[20:59] <linxuser__> time is
[20:59] <linxuser__> aurimas__: .bat files run in msdos
[21:01] <aurimas__> linxuser, im trying to run mcp and when i run it through wine it says i dont have java JDK which i do, what command do i use in termina?
[21:02] <zors> Hi everyone, time for a stupid question.  Currently running Ubuntu 11.10 64bit edition on my old spare laptop:  1.8GHz CPU, 2Gb RAM, 120 Gb HDD & Intel 965 Video.  Sorry if I offend anyone but REALLY, for ME, Unity (including 2D version) sucks.  It's slow as hell and counterproductive, and I've HAD IT!  So it's time for a change.  After hearing from a friend how well KDE runs nowadays, I might just give it a try.  Having never tried it, the Question is:
[21:02] <zors>   Should I get the 32 or 64 bit version?  Which would be more appropriate for this laptop?, and lastly, what are the Pros and Cons of running on version instead of the other on this system?  Does a 64 bit OS really make ANY difference?  Maybe someone can enlighten me.  Sorry for the long post (and the venting.. ;)).  Hoping someone can help me out here.
[21:03] <linxuser__> aurimas__: sorry about that. I rarely use windows and gave up on wine couple years ago
[21:04] <koleoptero> zors: I'd go with the 32bit
[21:05] <koleoptero> zors: do you know the precise cpu model?
[21:06] <Joit> for wine, at last, it works, when you install missing things over wine from windows, i did do that with a missing font and it worked great, so he/she may only should had it install something like sun java under wine
[21:06] <linxuser__> zors: ditto on the 32 bit. It'll load and run on either 32 or 64 bit machine while 64 bit will load/run on most 64 bit machines, likely all amd64s.
[21:07] <zors> koleoptero: Yeah, sorry, Celeron M540 1.8 Ghz (single-core obviously)
[21:09] <koleoptero> zors: well I'd use 32bit if I were you, 64bit might be better for some server tasks but it has problems with flash and uses more RAM of which you don't have that much (I know because I also have 2gb ;))
[21:10] <koleoptero> so yes go for 32bit
[21:11] <zors> koleoptero:  thanks for the help, will get the 32 bit ISO then.
[21:11] <koleoptero> np and welcome to the fold :)
[21:13] <szal> koleoptero: the Flash problems w/ 64bit are a thing of the past
[21:14] <koleoptero> you mean by using the 64bit flash ppa?
[21:16] <szal> koleoptero: that isn't even needed any more, at least not w/ Oneiric
[21:17] <koleoptero> thanks for telling me, I hadn't checked, my bad
[21:17] <koleoptero> I'd still recommend a 32bit install for a pc with 2gb of ram though
[21:19] <Deet`> having problems reading a micro SD card. phone won't read it, windows can't format it, so i figured i'd try linux, but i can't even find it there
[21:23] <BluesKaj> koleoptero, 64 bitt works fine on my 64bit amd single core cpu , with 2G RAM ..no lags
[21:24] <koleoptero> BluesKaj: there's no definite reason it shouldn't, but since it uses more ram than 32bit, and there's not much to gain from 64bit I'd prefer it
[21:27] <BluesKaj> koleoptero, I tried 32 bit on the 64 bit pc , there wasn't much of an advantage in my experience , never noticed whether it used more ram for given application tho
[21:29] <koleoptero> BluesKaj: it generally does, and in some cases I've seen extreme differences, although sadly I haven't kept notes on it since most modern pcs that can run 64bit have exuberant amounts of ram which requires 64bit anyway
[21:30] <linxuser__> BluesKaj: Koeoptero> My own experience with this 2 yr old Intel 64 the other day tried 64 bit linux today running 32. 64 seemed slugish
[21:32] <Deet`> so where do i find a usb device that doesn't mount itself?
[21:32] <BluesKaj> this pc is pretty plain jane , 2 core amd cpu , 3G RAM, added a nvidia 7600gt and and m-audio 192 souncdard, seldom lags , but i don't run several apps at once , since I'm in a home setting
[21:38] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: http://privatepaste.com/a15f89b47c
[21:42] <koleoptero> BluesKaj: now that interests me, how does the m-audio card work in linux, everything fine?
[21:47] <BluesKaj> koleoptero, after 10 days of configuring and learning abour alsabase,conf ..works great now
[21:52] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, ok we need to make this module card 0 in the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file with root permissions . this line has to be added to the bottom of the file ,  options snd_hda_codec_hdmi index=0
[21:56] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, save the file . then do, sudo modprobe snd_hda_codec_hdmi , in the terminal ...a reboot is probly required.
[22:13] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, ??
[22:28] <BluesKaj> BBL
[22:32] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: sorry - I lost internet for a while there
[22:32] <Kottizen> let's see now
[22:32] <Kottizen> (I got what you said)
[22:36] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: now I got: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/09/plasma-desktopDB1476.jpg
[22:36] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: and I'm left with: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/09/plasma-desktopvI1476.jpg
[22:46] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: when I did 'modprobe' I got an error saying see 'dmesg', and this is what it said: [  657.568213] snd_hda_codec_hdmi: Unknown parameter `index
[22:48] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, did you copy this line exactly , options snd_hda_codec_hdmi index=0 ?
[22:49] <Kottizen> yes
[22:49] <Kottizen> if I search for it on Google I get two hits, one on some kind of German site where people say it's not the right syntax (if I understood it correctly)
[22:50] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: here's my alsa-base.conf now: http://privatepaste.com/d1095aaad3
[22:51] <Kottizen> and here's the German forum topic: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6601037.html?sid=3ea0df6934f0db6652f0be3f37daf7fb#6601037
[22:53] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, btw , did you install the nvidia recommended  graphics card in swystem>additional drivers?
[22:53] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: I did
[22:54] <BluesKaj> ok
[22:54] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: should I give the post-release one a try? http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/09/plasma-desktopCf1476.jpg
[22:54] <BluesKaj> no
[22:55] <Kottizen> okay
[22:56] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, obviously we' ve installed the wrong soundcard module , so take that line out in alsa.conf .
[22:57] <Kottizen> and modprobe it?
[22:57] <Kottizen> or is that necessary when removing?
[22:58] <BluesKaj> no don't modprobe that module.that xcommand loads th module
[22:59] <BluesKaj> you have 2 intel sound modules , exactly the same
[22:59] <Kottizen> I have removed that last line and rebooted the system now
[23:01] <BluesKaj> do you have co-axial digital output on the onboard soundcard ? if so can you use that ?
[23:01] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: how would I check that?
[23:03] <BluesKaj> kot , it's an orange coloured rca output jack ..looks analog but, it's digital , your sound receiver should have the same input
[23:03] <BluesKaj> Kottizen,^
[23:03] <Kottizen> oh
[23:04] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: does it look like the ones you put regular headphones in, or is it a little big bigger?
[23:04] <BluesKaj> that's what I use , in alsamixer it's the spdif ctrl
[23:05] <Kottizen> the S/PDIF is set to 00 and I can't find any way to increase it
[23:05] <BluesKaj> it looks like analog output jack used for old tape decks etc
[23:05] <BluesKaj> use the up arrow key when it's highlighted
[23:06] <Kottizen> the only orange one I have is labelled 'CS-OUT'
[23:06] <Kottizen> but the amplifier doesn't have a matching one
[23:07] <BluesKaj> bummer
[23:07] <Kottizen> now I remember
[23:07] <Kottizen> two months ago, when Kubuntu 11.10 was brand new, I installed it on my laptop
[23:07] <BluesKaj> no digital coaxial inputs on the amplifier?
[23:07] <Kottizen> nope
[23:07] <Kottizen> I use the same HDMI cable for the laptop and I think someone mentioned something about a HDMI bug
[23:07] <BluesKaj> optical?
[23:08] <Kottizen> the amplifier has that, but not the PC
[23:08] <Kottizen> if I want to reset everything as it was before, is it just to install pulseaudio?
[23:08] <BluesKaj> which amp is it ?
[23:09] <Kottizen> a Yamaha RX-V371
[23:09] <BluesKaj> yes, install pulseaudio again
[23:09] <Kottizen> okay, sec
[23:12] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: I'm back - did a reboot too
[23:14] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers/yamaha-rx-v371/4505-6466_7-34533967.html , do you see the 2 jacks on the bottom left?
[23:15] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: yep
[23:16] <Kottizen> but uhm, I haven't got those, at least not there
[23:16] <Kottizen> let me see if I can find them somewhere else
[23:16] <BluesKaj> do you have those on your amp ? one is an put the other an output
[23:16] <BluesKaj> input
[23:16] <Kottizen> or which image are you referring to?
[23:18] <BluesKaj> the first one the , the back panel
[23:18] <Kottizen> http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2011/04/04/Yamaha_RX-V371_back.jpg?tag=mncol;rvwBody <-- I got those two, yes
[23:19] <BluesKaj> then you cab try a regular rca cable from the coax jack on your pc to the input coax on the receiver
[23:19] <BluesKaj> can
[23:20] <Kottizen> don't think I have one, but I could buy it tomorrow
[23:23] <BluesKaj> that input will carry the dolby digtal 5.1 and DTS from the spdif /coax on your pc to the receiver if the video has those codecs in the soundtrack
[23:24] <BluesKaj> ok , Kottizen , I have to go ..maybe we can set it up tomorrow
[23:24] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: just one more thing... how do I reset the Phonon configuration window to the way it looked before?
[23:24] <Kottizen> oh ok
[23:25] <Kottizen> so I get the 'device' tab back
[23:25] <BluesKaj> pulseaudio , will be the only choice
[23:25] <Kottizen> installed that - do I have to configure it somehow?
[23:26] <BluesKaj> spdif out if possible
[23:27] <Kottizen> sorry?
[23:28] <BluesKaj> IEC958 in the hardware profile setting
[23:29] <BluesKaj> audio hardware setup, Kottizen
[23:30] <Kottizen> uhm... I can't find it, but I'll try again tomorrow
[23:42] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, install pavucontrol , it gives more connection options in pulseaudio